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Massey Tunnel 'etiquette'
Acura604
09-19-2013, 02:28 PM
OK... I think most of us use this tunnel on our commutes and what not...
here's my question.
1. no sunglasses - yah ok no problem
2. lights on - how many of you put your lights on?
3. no passing on solid white line (it's illegal!)
- but wow, I see it so many times everyday... especially because of that terrible steveston exit that creeps up fast after exiting north bound. once the solid white line ends, you have what... a matter of 5-10 car lengths to switch over?
- not to mention in the mornings when the entrance gets bunched up and everyone trying to get to the outer lane (non counterflow).
if everyone played by the rules of the 'white line'... that tunnel would never work.
http://drivinginstructorblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Change-Lanes-Solid-Lines-600x398.jpg
lowside67
09-19-2013, 02:43 PM
I'm sorry, was there a question in there?
Also, lol at "most of us use this on our commute"
Acura604
09-19-2013, 02:48 PM
I'm sorry, was there a question in there?
Also, lol at "most of us use this on our commute"
well...most of us unlucky souls on that side of the burbs anyways...
question is... or was... when you're driving the tunnel.. do u abide by the solid white lines? from start to finish.
hotong
09-19-2013, 02:55 PM
^yes
snails
09-19-2013, 03:02 PM
i thought this was gunna be something about "no open wastegates through the tunnel" kinda threads..
in which case i would reply with a
:lawl:
but its not
:okay:
320icar
09-19-2013, 03:05 PM
Yes I abide by the solid line. Just like how I stop at red lights and slow down in school zones.
Derp
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punkwax
09-19-2013, 03:09 PM
No, I admit to having crossed the solid line on a couple occassions so I'm not going to lie...
However, a big fuck you to the bastards who roll the right lane north bound in the morning in a valiant effort to pass a whopping 3 cars only to turn on the blinker and make 2 lane changes for the counterflow lane. If you plan to use counterflow, get in the left lane ahead of time instead of making everyone stop to accommodate your ass. I never let meat heads in who think their time is more valuable than everyone else's..
XplicitLuder
09-19-2013, 03:10 PM
for the most part yes. i occasionally cross the white line if for example im on the left lane goign southbound and i gotta take the exit RIGHT after the tunnel, i'll wait til just after the "tunnel" ends and switch to the right, which is still solid white. I don't do it while IN the tunnel, but like i said, i ocassionally do it just before or after, but more so after since i always stick to the left lane before i enter
dared3vil0
09-19-2013, 04:39 PM
10/10 thread would read again.
CP.AR
09-19-2013, 05:48 PM
OMFG DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE FUCKING MASSEY TUNNEL.
YOU PIECE OF SHIT I THOUGHT I HAD THIS BEHIND ME WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL POSTING CRAP RELATED TO THE MASSSHIT TUNNEL.
BRB GOTTA GO SEE THERAPIST
double0seven
09-19-2013, 05:59 PM
OMFG DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE FUCKING MASSEY TUNNEL.
YOU PIECE OF SHIT I THOUGHT I HAD THIS BEHIND ME WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL POSTING CRAP RELATED TO THE MASSSHIT TUNNEL.
BRB GOTTA GO SEE THERAPIST
FUCK THE MASSEY TUNNEL :fuuuuu:
twitchyzero
09-19-2013, 06:14 PM
I feel bad for those that have to use that tunnel
then again I was stuck on the Upper Levels of Hwy 1 for an hour this afternoon :okay:
boostfever
09-19-2013, 06:26 PM
You forgot "no redlining in the tunnel" :fuckthatshit:
Splinter
09-19-2013, 08:28 PM
In the rare event I use the tunnel, I'm heading to Steveston most likely, so... I use the right hand lane in the tunnel. Realistically it's never going to be more than a 45 second difference no matter which lane you use, so just use the one you need to.
Also, +1 for open wastegates in the tunnel. I miss my Impreza :(
bloodmack
09-19-2013, 08:36 PM
tunnel? WOOT time for loud car to be louder!!!
SpuGen
09-20-2013, 04:02 AM
Had to use the tunnel for 3 months 2 summers ago.
Solution : Got a different job.
CP.AR
09-20-2013, 05:00 AM
THOSE OF YOU WHO SUGGEST RELINING IN THE TUNNEL I SUGGEST YOU TRY GOING FAST AT 8AM M-F FROM RICHMOND TO DELTA. OR 4PM-5:30PM FROM DELTA TO RICHMOND
YES I NEED TO SCREAM BECAUSE I STILL HAVENT SEEN MY THERAPIST YET
meme405
09-20-2013, 07:35 AM
THOSE OF YOU WHO SUGGEST RELINING IN THE TUNNEL I SUGGEST YOU TRY GOING FAST AT 8AM M-F FROM RICHMOND TO DELTA. OR 4PM-5:30PM FROM DELTA TO RICHMOND
YES I NEED TO SCREAM BECAUSE I STILL HAVENT SEEN MY THERAPIST YET
:ohgodwhy:
604STIG
09-20-2013, 07:40 AM
Thought this thread was going to be about reving and open wastegates through the tunnel. Bigger FAIL thread than what I originally thought.
Acura604
09-20-2013, 07:40 AM
anyways.... I guess it isn't much more different than at the lions gate when you have to merge onto 1 lane from 4. I mean.. if the whole 'white line' crossing was enforced.. holy crap, the cops would have a field day ticketing.
CP.AR
09-20-2013, 07:57 AM
IT'S NOT ONE LANE FROM 4. IT'S 2+2+3+2HOV into ONE GIANT FUCKING LANE WITH ASSHOLES DIVING AND OUT OF OF THE SHOULDER AND HOV LANES TO GET AHEAD.
FUCK
HERE I TOOK THIS VIDEO ON MY LAST WEEK OF WORK
Workday Massey Tunnel Traffic - YouTube
bloodmack
09-20-2013, 08:42 AM
floating lego blocks.. :suspicious:
320icar
09-20-2013, 09:18 AM
anyways.... I guess it isn't much more different than at the lions gate when you have to merge onto 1 lane from 4. I mean.. if the whole 'white line' crossing was enforced.. holy crap, the cops would have a field day ticketing.
Naw man. They are too busy catching all of us speeding
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j.f0ng
09-20-2013, 09:50 AM
OMFG DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE FUCKING MASSEY TUNNEL.
YOU PIECE OF SHIT I THOUGHT I HAD THIS BEHIND ME WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL POSTING CRAP RELATED TO THE MASSSHIT TUNNEL.
BRB GOTTA GO SEE THERAPIST
THOSE OF YOU WHO SUGGEST RELINING IN THE TUNNEL I SUGGEST YOU TRY GOING FAST AT 8AM M-F FROM RICHMOND TO DELTA. OR 4PM-5:30PM FROM DELTA TO RICHMOND
YES I NEED TO SCREAM BECAUSE I STILL HAVENT SEEN MY THERAPIST YET
IT'S NOT ONE LANE FROM 4. IT'S 2+2+3+2HOV into ONE GIANT FUCKING LANE WITH ASSHOLES DIVING AND OUT OF OF THE SHOULDER AND HOV LANES TO GET AHEAD.
FUCK
HERE I TOOK THIS VIDEO ON MY LAST WEEK OF WORK
Workday Massey Tunnel Traffic - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXsL_uDxNQ)
http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/09/28/oh_he_mad_27763_1315322164_29_373238.jpg
And to answer the question OP posted. Whenever I happen to pass through the Massey tunnel, I don't usually need to take the first exit right after the tunnel, so I pick a lane and stay in it throughout the tunnel. However, I have seen many people cross the solid white line in the middle of the tunnel and blow right through in the left lane.
Acura604
09-20-2013, 09:57 AM
BUT... re morning OR afternoon rush hour... pick your poison:
Massey Tunnel vs Alex Fraser Bridge.
BOTH can be chaotic...yet the TUNNEL tends to flow faster.
dinosaur
09-20-2013, 10:51 AM
Congested George Massey Tunnel to be replaced by bridge in 2017 - BC | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/854056/congested-george-massey-tunnel-to-be-replaced-by-bridge-in-2017/)
Who wants to take bets as to how much the toll will be?
tee-tea
09-20-2013, 11:04 AM
^beat me to it
lilaznviper
09-20-2013, 11:56 AM
knowing the stupid government i would say $3+. and then everyone will be using the alex fraser
320icar
09-20-2013, 12:50 PM
Not only a toll, but we'd also pay it through our taxes (somewhat hidden of course) and then we'd also pay and extra 2 or 3 Levies on fuel because translink will complain that they had to build it... Which is why we fucking pay them in the first place.
So yes, we will no matter what be paying for that new project. I'm glad I've been riding my bike lately
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trollguy
09-20-2013, 01:30 PM
HERE I TOOK THIS VIDEO ON MY LAST WEEK OF WORK
Workday Massey Tunnel Traffic - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXsL_uDxNQ)
holy, 1 hr just to cross the tunnel. was it particularly bad that day or is that the norm from where you wrk?
belka
09-20-2013, 02:28 PM
holy, 1 hr just to cross the tunnel. was it particularly bad that day or is that the norm from where you wrk?
ya that is fucking horrible, wow. 1 Hour. I'll never complain about my 2min drive/bike ride to work.
mos_skeeto
09-20-2013, 02:53 PM
I wanna see them take apart the tunnel
BBMme
09-20-2013, 03:21 PM
I take it every friday when I come back from victoria:( horrible.
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meme405
09-20-2013, 03:28 PM
Not only a toll, but we'd also pay it through our taxes (somewhat hidden of course) and then we'd also pay and extra 2 or 3 Levies on fuel because translink will complain that they had to build it... Which is why we fucking pay them in the first place.
You realize that this is how the government pays for everything right? They get their money from us, and then use it for infrastructure and other expenses such as welfare and health care.
Frankly I think this is a better use of the money than giving it to those who refuse to go get a job.
BBMme
09-20-2013, 04:00 PM
Now I'm stuck in traffic :(
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CP.AR
09-20-2013, 05:17 PM
holy, 1 hr just to cross the tunnel. was it particularly bad that day or is that the norm from where you wrk?
One hour is actually a pretty good day.
Normally the traffic there is backed up to where River Road splits into two and becomes Highway 17 - from there on it's 2 hours
Sometimes it's jammed up so bad you can literally get out and take a picture of your car (yes, people do get out of their cars and push when gas prices get bad)
point: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/532803_10151030804726974_524361845_n.jpg
If for whatever reason there was an accident anywhere NEAR the Queensborough or Alex Fraser, forget it! just stay and get some OT hours while you're at it.
It's not the fact that the jam is one hour that makes it enraging.
It's the fact that the tunnel is completely INCAPABLE of dealing with the traffic volume we have now, yet the jackoffs sitting in their fancy offices in Victoria had the balls 2 or 3 years ago to "celebrate" the tunnel's 50th year and talk about how the tunnel is Highway 99's crown jewel. CROWN JEWEL OF CORNDOG FUCKING SHIT.
50 years ago yes, the tunnel was amazing - both Richmond and Delta was mostly farmland. However like most things in Vancouver/GVRD, they fail to recognize the fact that times have changed and that A) maybe more buses should be put into place that people can actually RIDE, or B) widen the tunnel when the both sides started to develop.
Another problem I have is the new SFPR (South Fraser Perimeter Road). This lane widening/highway building project was meant to resolve the traffic jams on River Road (which to this day is a single carraigeway despite the fact that there's a bajillion industrial areas on either side). The problem is, the traffic jams on River road are caused by the Massey Tunnel (and Alex Fraser on the other side). How are they fixing this problem? why not by improving the ramps to the highways, but just twinning and expanding the feeder roads onto the arteries and keeping the choke points where they are. BANDAID FUCKING SOLUTION... and another querk with this project that my boss found out is that some of exits are one direction! if you want to head home at the end up the day have fun looking for another entrance!
Regarding the bus: From where I work (an industrial area), there's only one bus lane that serves it during peak hours (understandable), which goes to either Newton or the Ladner loop. The bus to there takes about an hour (because the only crossing over 99 from 17 is the same overpass the Massey Tunnel entrances are at) Then from ladner, I need to take another bus that goes direct to Richmond center, and then another bus from there to around where I live... Tried this once for a grand total of 2.5 hours of waiting and sitting on the bus with the wheels going round and round.
/RANT
TLDR:
FUCK THIS TUNNEL FUCK THIS SHIT.
8 LANES INTO ONE. PEOPLE BUDGING. HOV LANES DONT REALLY HELP.
I SPEND 3 HOURS EACH DAY HERE. IT'S QUICKER TO START SWIMMING
XplicitLuder
09-20-2013, 05:53 PM
plus it doesnt help that your work place is like in the worst places of all when it comes to rush hour lol i've had to deliver that way around 3pm and make my way back and while it took only 20min from about your location and crossing it with one lane (its not so bad around 3pm) i fkin can't stand it.
Splinter
09-20-2013, 08:23 PM
I don't understand why you choose to make the tunnel part of your commute if you hate it so much
XplicitLuder
09-20-2013, 09:25 PM
i think itd take longer going the other way...most of his time he got stuck in that stretch of 62b street or w/e its called. after that it wasnt that much and he cant avoid that street...im pretty sure this is his fastest lol
CP.AR
09-20-2013, 10:40 PM
I don't understand why you choose to make the tunnel part of your commute if you hate it so much
There is no other way... unless I go to Surrey (my office is 5 minutes away from the tunnel), make a big loop, fight with people at the bridge, and then travel across Richmond
Splinter
09-21-2013, 05:44 AM
There is no other way... unless I go to Surrey (my office is 5 minutes away from the tunnel), make a big loop, fight with people at the bridge, and then travel across Richmond
Well you chose your work and your home
When I moved here I was careful to pick somewhere to live where I could get to school without going through a major bottleneck like that
RANT
TLDR:
FUCK THIS TUNNEL FUCK THIS SHIT.
8 LANES INTO ONE. PEOPLE BUDGING. HOV LANES DONT REALLY HELP.
I SPEND 3 HOURS EACH DAY HERE. IT'S QUICKER TO START SWIMMING
:werd:
I work near the Richmond side of the Massey, and I regret my decision every time that I decide to go to Point Roberts after work during the afternoon rush hour. :banghead:
stewie
09-21-2013, 08:23 AM
Congested George Massey Tunnel to be replaced by bridge in 2017 - BC | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/854056/congested-george-massey-tunnel-to-be-replaced-by-bridge-in-2017/)
Who wants to take bets as to how much the toll will be?
knowing the stupid government i would say $3+. and then everyone will be using the alex fraser
just go green like they want you to...no toll
or use the ever so popular transit system. by then it'll probably only cost 5$ for a 1 zone...but you'll be saving your gas money for your own personal trips and you'll be helping the enviorment! only downside is that you would have to leave for work at 5am to make it to an office for 8-9am.
CP.AR
09-21-2013, 09:08 AM
Well you chose your work and your home
When I moved here I was careful to pick somewhere to live where I could get to school without going through a major bottleneck like that
sorry bud some of us just aren't as lucky as you are:badpokerface:
well I guess that's why I quit Vancouver completely
finbar
09-21-2013, 09:41 AM
Happy to see the Messy tunnel go, what a cluster fuck.
Hopefully the approaches are improved, otherwise meh.
http://images.gizmag.com/hero/pearl-river-necklace-bridge.jpg
Lomac
09-21-2013, 10:58 AM
Well you chose your work and your home
When I moved here I was careful to pick somewhere to live where I could get to school without going through a major bottleneck like that
That's not always an option for people, either due to finances, their office moving to a different location, or if they have different locations to work everyday (ie: tradesperson/film work, etc).
I worked at a place that was originally a few blocks away from my old house in Langley, then one day the boss moved the office just outside of DT Vancouver. You can't expect someone to break a lease contract or sell their house in a situation where that happens.
Splinter
09-21-2013, 08:58 PM
That's not always an option for people, either due to finances, their office moving to a different location, or if they have different locations to work everyday (ie: tradesperson/film work, etc).
I worked at a place that was originally a few blocks away from my old house in Langley, then one day the boss moved the office just outside of DT Vancouver. You can't expect someone to break a lease contract or sell their house in a situation where that happens.
I'm broke as fuck. Full time student. I just had to make the choice between a short commute and a bigger place. I chose a short commute.
Life is about choices and sacrificing one thing for another. To me there's not really much difference between people bitching about their commute and me bitching about how small my place is. It's the choice I made.
For the rare exception where someones business up and moves and you can't get out of a lease, sure. But that's the exception, not the rule.
Akinari
09-21-2013, 09:01 PM
I drive through the tunnel everyday during morning and evening rush hour traffic. I'd say the times I have seen someone change lanes on a solid white lane are close to zero. People are generally pretty respective in there.
I turn on my parking lights when I get in, but no big deal if others don't turn their lights on.
CP.AR
09-21-2013, 10:09 PM
I'm broke as fuck. Full time student. I just had to make the choice between a short commute and a bigger place. I chose a short commute.
Life is about choices and sacrificing one thing for another. To me there's not really much difference between people bitching about their commute and me bitching about how small my place is. It's the choice I made.
sacrifices... I know that notion far to well.:cry:
I hope that bird is doing well in whereever it might be in
6thGear.
09-22-2013, 11:14 AM
I commute the tunnel everyday for the past 4 of 7 years. The worst was when I was living in Richmond, 20 min drive that takes 45 min on a good day if not 1.5 hrs. 90% just sitting on steveston waiting. I bought a place in Delta/S Surrey and that was ok, but most of the time I was sitting on hwy 99 with the tunnel traffic just to make the hwy 17 exit, that was also excruciating. I now live back in Vancouver off marine and surprisingly it's the best commute.
After work...that's when the REAL fun starts. I just end up working OT till 6-630 so the counterflow gets taken out
twitchyzero
09-22-2013, 11:23 AM
not everyone can just OT at their own will at work
solution: buy a helicopter
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