[jpark]

2009 BMW M3 E92 coupe smg (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/4002306231.html)

sorry for the stupid thread..
But wonder whats the deal is with this car? what does it exactly mean by no title? is it basically a salvage?

[Redlines_Daily]

I don't have much to contribute, but that looks sketchy as heck. 25000k, guy says no problems at all, but willing to sell without the engine..make me think it was stolen. The interior is filthy..he clearly doesn't treat the car with respect, probably because it has little value. Interesting to know the story though.

[evlee]

stay far away. rebuild from back east or US?.... look at the interior shot, notice the random headlight sitting on the passanger side floor.

look what i found with the phone number they provided

http://www.thechopshopcycle.com/index.php?page=vehicles-for-sale

[LP700-4]

I believe that means its either salvage or stolen and recovered type of thing.

Won't be able to insure it here. Very sketchy indeed
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[thumper]

same car?

http://www.thechopshopcycle.com/index.php?mact=autos,cntnt01,default,0&cntnt01what=vehicle&cntnt01alias=2009-BMW-E92-M3&cntnt01returnid=19

canadian car judging from the km/h speedo. maybe there would be more info if you got the VIN and do a carfax. anything reported would show up on its history.... or not?

i am looking at the pics from the link evlee posted and i see some of the cars are in the queensborough icbc yard (i've had the misfortune of being their once... sigh).

if this is the same place i'm thinking of, they are located in the complex where minnam racing and richmond motorsports used to be. a colleague of mine bought parts from a totaled STi from them a few months back. he was told they buy insurance/salvage wrecks or recoveries and part them out.

[dared3vil0]

Does anyone notice the silt and crap all over the floor and steering wheel? Yeah that's the stuff WATER leaves behind. This is a flood damaged car. A.k.a RUN away!

[lowside67]

This is a "dismantle only" ICBC flood damaged or total theft vehicle. Basically there are cars that are written off and then can be repaired - these become rebuilts - and there are dismantled cars that ICBC will never allow back on the road. This is one of the latter. It truly is sold by ICBC as "parts only" and it speaks volumes to the ethics of the seller that they would sell it knowing it was going back on the road in another country.

Mark

[Redlines_Daily]

I think the dirt would be more uniform if it was flood damaged, to me, it looks like someone with dirty hands was touching everything

[fliptuner]

RSPI to the rescue lol, nice work.

In general, untitled/unregistered/uninsurable vehicles are dismantle only, stolen or from out of province/country without proper import documentation.

[BrRsn]

Maybe if I really really loved the E46 I'd buy a 330i and buy that car and try to make a V8 powered 330i ZHP-M lol.

But yea, shady as hell

[dared3vil0]

You'd end up with 50+k used E46 330i...

[BrRsn]

You'd end up with 50+k used E46 330i...

:fullofwin: Probably a good thing I'm not a millionaire

Not to mention e46 purists would say I ruined it by replacing the perfectly balanced I6 with a V8, and the lovers of the new e92 would say I ruined it by putting such a nice engine into such a dated car

[jpark]

i dont think its flooded. If it was, there would be some sort of a dirt pattern in the interior. It seems more like it sat in a yard for a long time and workers just moved it around with their greasy hands

oh, and s65 motor in e46 has been done before already
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee186/lukask2005/Picture002.jpg

[lowside67]

Everything has been done. The question is WHY would you do it? The E92 M3 is not much heavier than the E46 M3 if you are building a racecar, ie stripping out the heavier seats, heavier infotainment system, etc

[lowside67]

PS I have revised my estimate of what I think it is. I think it's actually an Alberta salvage car which would explain:
no title (Alberta cars are sold on Bill of Sale only)
no holes in front bumper (Alberta cars no front plate required)
fresh snow tires (well duh)

Still can never be rebuilt in Canada (legally) though.

Mark

[Happy]

i dont think its flooded. If it was, there would be some sort of a dirt pattern in the interior. It seems more like it sat in a yard for a long time and workers just moved it around with their greasy hands

oh, and s65 motor in e46 has been done before already
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee186/lukask2005/Picture002.jpg

that is pure sex

[lowside67]

Did somebody say V8 in a BMW 3 series? :D

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/401503_10150691811158448_1736854426_n.jpg

[JoshuaWong]

Interesting fact, the S65B40 V8 in the E92 is 33lbs lighter than the Straight 6 in the E46.

The new S55B30 Straight 6 in the new F8X M3/M4 will weight 195kg vs the 202kg of the V8.

[bcrdukes]

^
Why does that car look so familiar? :troll:

[jing]

FYI dismantle only cars can still be reregistered again, albeit under a new modified/altered title with a new BC assigned VIN which obviously requires a lengthy reinspection process. That is how my old S13 ended back on the road
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[westopher]

So who's got a set of tools and wants to put this engine in my e36 for a few weeks of me being their personal chef? Anyone? Anyone?

[inv4zn]

^I'll do it.
Engine can go on your passenger seat...you didn't specify; "In my e36" :troll:

[The_AK]

i dont think its flooded. If it was, there would be some sort of a dirt pattern in the interior. It seems more like it sat in a yard for a long time and workers just moved it around with their greasy hands

oh, and s65 motor in e46 has been done before already
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee186/lukask2005/Picture002.jpg

daaaaaaaaaammmmmnnnnnnn

:ahwow:

[Autorice]

you don't want the headache. in order to bring back a 'dismantle only' or 'certificate of destruction' car you will need three donor cars with significant contribution of parts from each car. ie chassis from one, interior from another, suspension/motor from another. you cannot simply add 'headlights' from one vin, 'wheels' from another vin and 'rest of the car' from that M3. They will not approve that.

[Redlines_Daily]

Maybe if I really really loved the E46 I'd buy a 330i and buy that car and try to make a V8 powered 330i ZHP-M lol.

But yea, shady as hell

I'm selling my ZHP, only 60,000k! :D

[Iceman-19]

This is a "dismantle only" ICBC flood damaged or total theft vehicle. Basically there are cars that are written off and then can be repaired - these become rebuilts - and there are dismantled cars that ICBC will never allow back on the road. This is one of the latter. It truly is sold by ICBC as "parts only" and it speaks volumes to the ethics of the seller that they would sell it knowing it was going back on the road in another country.

Mark

It was probably a US purchased car, so you could Ubuilt it.

[thumper]

It was probably a US purchased car, so you could Ubuilt it.

but i thought the speedo in km/h meant it was a canadian car?

http://www.thechopshopcycle.com/uploads/images/autos/Photo_6.jpg

[meme405]

but i thought the speedo in km/h meant it was a canadian car?

http://www.thechopshopcycle.com/uploads/images/autos/Photo_6.jpg

Not saying it isnt, but you can replace the speedo with a canadian spec one if you really wanted to.

And if you got one from a lower KM car, its an easy way to scam people.

[Groot]

If it was a US car, don't they have to change the speedo to Canadian one to pass inspections?
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[E60_M5]

Not saying it isnt, but you can replace the speedo with a canadian spec one if you really wanted to.

And if you got one from a lower KM car, its an easy way to scam people.

do u think a bmw is honda?

in order to use a brand new cluster. u will have to get a dealer or a shop to program it to your car. also the kms info is store in the ecu as well, thia makes it extremely hard to tamper with the kms.

even if u plug a used cluster into a late model bmw, the cluster will show the kms from the ecu of the current car and it will also show a big orange dot telling u that the vin and kms dont match between the ecu and the cluster rom. its also almost impossible to change the vin of a used cluster to a new car, u pretty much have to open the cluster up and swap the chip storing that info.
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[E60_M5]

If it was a US car, don't they have to change the speedo to Canadian one to pass inspections?
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as long as the cluster shows kmh, u wont have to change the cluster.
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[Gridlock]

Look far enough at its history and I would guess it comes from Calgary. The low part.

Written as dismantle/parts with no physical damage. All you need to know. Sad to strip a basically brand new car but that's all its good for.

People buy flood cars all the time trying to sell them as good units. Trade them across enough lines and you might lose its history.

[bcrdukes]

even if u plug a used cluster into a late model bmw, the cluster will show the kms from the ecu of the current car and it will also show a big orange dot telling u that the vin and kms dont match between the ecu and the cluster rom.

+1

BMW started doing this since the introduction of the E36.

[meme405]

do u think a bmw is honda?

in order to use a brand new cluster. u will have to get a dealer or a shop to program it to your car. also the kms info is store in the ecu as well, thia makes it extremely hard to tamper with the kms.

even if u plug a used cluster into a late model bmw, the cluster will show the kms from the ecu of the current car and it will also show a big orange dot telling u that the vin and kms dont match between the ecu and the cluster rom. its also almost impossible to change the vin of a used cluster to a new car, u pretty much have to open the cluster up and swap the chip storing that info.
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Fair enough, I should have figured BMW's were so intertwined, I changed the cluster on an infiniti and it was plug and play. Same with an E46 BMW, but I guess the newer ones are complicated.

Carry on.

Edit: And no I think wouldn't disgrace Honda like that...:devil:

[jpark]

^e46 are super easy plug and play as well (2 torx screws.. literally), until you start driving. The error light comes on and tells you that the cluster has been swapped and the mileage record goes to bunch of dots

[LC21]

Emailed the guy, he got super upset when i asked him if the car has been in a flood and he would not tell me the history behind this car. :fullofwin:

[thumper]

Emailed the guy, he got super upset when i asked him if the car has been in a flood and he would not tell me the history behind this car. :fullofwin:

they wouldn't even give a VIN? wow that's not good :(

[pissedoffe55]

I already looked into this car a week ago guys. Here is what I know...

Canadian car, specifically Alberta. 100% clean title, no accidents, no salvage, no lien, no flood etc etc.

No idea what the exact story is but my guess is a repo or a car that was left in an impound for an extended period or something along the lines.


The seller had no problem sending me the VIN, and this is what I got from autocheck.com

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/kyle-G/1380219715004_zpsb5f7b531.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/kyle-G/media/1380219715004_zpsb5f7b531.jpg.html)

[thumper]

huh. thanks for posting that.

the plot thickens.

[SumAznGuy]

Ad of gone from CL now.

[lowside67]

No it's not, he just sucks at Craigslist and deleted it rather than reposting it:
2009 BMW M3 E92 coupe smg (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/4091369207.html)

[jpark]

lol it almost looks like he read this thread and cleaned up the car and got new pics

[c4@urdoor]

Wow, surprised most RS'ers don't know about Brad and thechopshop....

In short: Stay away.

[thumper]

Wow, surprised most RS'ers don't know about Brad and thechopshop....

In short: Stay away.

nope.... pls discuss?

[SumAznGuy]

Wow, surprised most RS'ers don't know about Brad and thechopshop....

In short: Stay away.

Can he also sell me an ISF?

[ricepowered]

this car would definitely make a sick RACE CAR!

[Gridlock]

Wow, surprised most RS'ers don't know about Brad and thechopshop....

In short: Stay away.

Enlighten us!

Anything called "thechopshop" that doesn't do graphic design should be good.

[Gululu]

the m3 probably end up overseas. the seller should just sell it to my friend who's in the business.