[Mr.C]

Might have been posted in the NSFW forum, but I haven't been there in a while:

GOPR2900 - YouTube

Excerpt:

Video has emerged showing the shocking moment a Range Rover driver apparently drove through a crowd of motorbikes as it fled with its family inside for fear of being attacked.
According to police, the bikers started to damage the vehicle after the driver accidentally hit a motorcyclist.
Fearing for the safety of his wife and young child, aged under five, the SUV driver then sped off, hitting several bikers in its path.


Shocking video of Range Rover crashing through bikers after they surround the vehicle during annual street ride | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html)

[multicartual]

Not a father alive that wouldn't have done the same thing

[twitchyzero]

I can only comment what I see in the video but was it really necessary to ride in a tight knit pack all over the road and so close to cars?

It looks like the guy that got hit initially was brake checking the SUV.

Then later I'm surprised a huge flock went chasing the SUV...as if a dozen sent after the SUV wans't enough and the 10 riders or so that was down probably needed all the attention they can get.

Driver of the SUV is definitely at fault and the aggressor here but the whole mob mentality when shit hits the fan really doesn't help the situation....and I didn't think some of the bikers would try to corner him again with their bikes seeing how the driver just ran them over like ants minutes ago.

[jeedee]

Bunch of Sons of Anarchy wannabes LOL

[snails]

it was GTA5's fault!

[T4RAWR]

i love the top comment:


Here's how the story would have unfolded if I were the driver of that SUV with my wife and child in it. Man protecting his family from a group of thugs uses his SUV as a missile and runs over bikers after they attempted to assault him. Man then exits his vehicle with a semi-automatic glock 10mm in hand and begins killing motorcyclists involved in incident. One witness described the scene as straight out of a movie. There were no survivors other than the man and his family.


this is exactly how that shit should have ended.

[ilvtofu]

I wonder how many years of therapy kids in the back seat will need when they're older... lol

article says that driver may have clipped a biker prior to the video but it may have been the result of the bikes riding erratically.

and what is it about the mob mentality that makes bikers think they're invincible lol. 3 tons of range rover will run over your bike without breaking a sweat, wtf are you doing brake checking him...

[twitchyzero]

hey it could've been worst

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2081615/critical-mass-o.gif

[xilley]

I could feel what the driver was feeling. Feeling intimidated and punkd around.

But I don't think I would be running over a biker out of a couple hundred that he's with..
Driver prob raged.

Both sides are wrong.

[bcedhk]

I would have drove forward, reversed, and repeated until they got my message.

[bcedhk]

lol @ 3:08, guy with an ATV.

[freakshow]

hey it should've been worse.

[jeedee]

lol'd at biker trying to punch the window with his fist @ 6:19

[westopher]

It takes a lot of retard to bring an event like this to life.

[Stealthy]

hey it could've been worst

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2081615/critical-mass-o.gif

Extended cut

http://www.blackgifs.com/gifs/fastandthefurious.gif

[dachinesedude]

something must've happened before the brake check, whatever it is the driver should've just pulled to the right and let them go, put the ego aside when you got family in the car jeez
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[Mr.C]

something must've happened before the brake check, whatever it is the driver should've just pulled to the right and let them go, put the ego aside when you got family in the car jeez
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Sure didn't look like he could have pulled to the right.

[duy-]

at any rate, im glad guns were NOT involved. yes the driver could have shot them all down and made his escape in the self defense but at the same time the bikers could of lit up the SUV with the wife and child inside. no thanks NRA, we dont need guns to protect against guns, nobody was killed and the driver walked away with bruises and lacerations

[T4RAWR]

at any rate, im glad guns were NOT involved. yes the driver could have shot them all down and made his escape in the self defense but at the same time the bikers could of lit up the SUV with the wife and child inside. no thanks NRA, we dont need guns to protect against guns, nobody was killed and the driver walked away with bruises and lacerations

and his wife and child being scarred for life.

[twitchyzero]

i'd rather be traumatized than dedd

[Ferra]

Driver of the SUV is definitely at fault and the aggressor here but the whole mob mentality when shit hits the fan really doesn't help the situation.....
How did you figure the SUV was at fault and the aggressor??
Looks to me like the bikers were ganging up on the SUV and trying to pull the driver out before he starts running over them...

And I don't know what happened at the end after they smashed the window, but I would've reversed and plow thru every one of them to get away...especially with my family in the car
Let's see how many bikes it takes to stop a 5000lbs SUV...

[Stiig]

the guy at 0:21 switches to the lane of the range rover.
if the guy at 0:26 is brake checking... no need to do it like an asshole and look back, just brake. I wouldn't even call this brake checking... who the fuck comes to almost a complete stop in the highway and not expect to get hit?
he pretty much provoked the whole event... and should have been run over and died. less fucktards in the world that way.

[Jgresch]

Any info on how stuff unfolded after the video ends?
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[Gnator]

I would have ran over the bikers to protect my family any day

[kwy]

Those bikers rode like fucking assholes, I can't say I wouldn't have done the same in the RR driver's position.

[wingies]

shouldve set it to offroad settings and went to town on these bikers

[bing]

The motorcyclists ride like a pack of assholes but not unexpected when you have that many people. I woulda moved over.

I'm surprised the RR's door is unlocked the first time a biker tried to open it.

[melloman]

Good to hear that the city has now banned this annual event. :thumbsup:

BTW, if they only wanted the driver, why did they attempt to smash out the back windows? Let's smash glass all over a 5-month-old baby's face. :rolleyes:

[4444]

Bikers were idiots for the way they were riding

Driver was an idiot for not calling the cops and staying on the highway - get cops involved, apologize to rider you hit (yes it looks like he brake checked him, and this deserved it, but in the end of the day 50 retards on motorbikes - I think I'd take the high road), offer to pay for any damage (clearly little to none), Shake hands, move on with life - like a fucking 33 yr old adult

Instead, he pussies out and tries to drive over a bunch of them, scares the shit out of his wife (way to go to protect your family, arse face), then gets a minor beat down/ damage to his vehicle.

I really think common sense is lacking in people these days - especially when you have a wife and kid in the car to protect

[4444]

Good to hear that the city has now banned this annual event. :thumbsup:

BTW, if they only wanted the driver, why did they attempt to smash out the back windows? Let's smash glass all over a 5-month-old baby's face. :rolleyes:

You think they knew a baby was in there? These guys would have had adrenalin pumping - I doubt they wanted to do anything other than hurt the driver, but you can't assume they'd be level headed (as proven by the fact they were chasing the guy for 5 plus minutes )

[boostfever]

the SUV driver is lucky he didn't kill anyone.

[StylinRed]

surprised guns werent involved

surprised more bikers weren't turned into off roading obstacles

surprised driver didnt stay on the expressways and waited for police to catch up

not surprised that it escalated how it did since there are so many retards involved (driver included)

[MarkyMark]

More like the bikers are lucky they didn't get killed...looks like a bunch of assholes who only tried acting tough because they were in a huge group.
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[westopher]

You think they knew a baby was in there? These guys would have had adrenalin pumping - I doubt they wanted to do anything other than hurt the driver, but you can't assume they'd be level headed (as proven by the fact they were chasing the guy for 5 plus minutes ) Agreed. If I saw an SUV purposefully run over someone I was riding with (attempted murder if you want to simplify it) you can be sure I'd be trying to get that guy out of the car, and would probably have no idea there was a baby in the back. Anger causes tunnel vision in animals (humans) and you do what you think you need to do before you notice the details. The guy in the SUV shows a perfect example of it earlier, and the bikers show the example later.

[4444]

I wonder what the repression a will be, any criminal charges against either side of retards.

Part of me hopes so, because these people clearly don't 'get it' but then a part thinks, justice has somewhat been served, idiot bikers rammed (assume no one hurt), idiot driver beaten a little

[T4RAWR]

A) he called the police while on the highway
B) they slashed his tires out, you can see the tire roll off in the video
C) guns weren't involved because NY is a "gun free" area. the only people who have guns are criminals who dont care about the law.

http://nypost.com/2013/09/30/bikers-attack-suv-after-driver-rams-riders/

[BrRsn]

I'm just surprised his range rover didn't break down mid pursuit
:troll:

[GGnoRE]

Clearly the driver's been playing GTA

LOL at the dude in the end just dropping his bike to go smash the RR's window

[kunoman1]

I'm surprised no bikers ran into each other in pursuit of the RR..

[Harvey Specter]

Nothing but a bunch of thugs riding bikes. Hopefully the cops charge the bikers.

[meme405]

I would like to point out that because this video was uploaded from the POV of the biker, chances are they did something wrong before the beginning of the video otherwise the guy with the footage would have posted the first moment they ran into the RR.

Bikers were being retarded, RR driver raged and ran them over, call it self defense or w/e but he raged...

[jeedee]

RR driver raged and ran them over, call it self defense or w/e but he raged...

How is being boxed in by a bunch of thugs and fearing for your safety, your wifes and children safety, raging? :fulloffuck:

[meme405]

How is being boxed in by a bunch of thugs and fearing for your safety, your wifes and children safety, raging? :fulloffuck:

There was other ways to get out of that box in besides closing your eyes an flooring it. I am not putting the blame on the driver at all, I just think he could have gotten around them in a different manner.

His method was effective. I didnt see too many guys willing to jump in front of his car after that...

I would imagine that everything after the video was taken out because the bikers knew it was criminal. not saying that the stuff before that wasnt criminal.

EDIT: then again I wasnt there, I am going under the impression that when you start nudging the bikers bikes, they would GTFO, but I guess if they didnt the RR really didnt have a choice.

[inv4zn]

I would like to point out that because this video was uploaded from the POV of the biker, chances are they did something wrong before the beginning of the video otherwise the guy with the footage would have posted the first moment they ran into the RR.

Bikers were being retarded, RR driver raged and ran them over, call it self defense or w/e but he raged...

Yeah, he took off in a straight line, ie. running away...don't think that really counts as raging.

If he looked like he was aiming for whom/whatever was in front of him, maybe.

In any case, I hope it ends well for the driver. In some ways I'm glad this happened in the US. Their justice system isn't the kind where it seems to always favour the attacker.

[StylinRed]

Their justice system isn't the kind where it seems to always favour the attacker.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::lol:stupid::stupid:

the country where criminals sue their victims.... (i love how people like to assume that thats canada but as proven in past threads no..its the US)

[GLOW]

DMX - Ruff Ryders' Anthem - YouTube

[inv4zn]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::lol:stupid::stupid:

the country where criminals sue their victims.... (i love how people like to assume that thats canada but as proven in past threads no..its the US)
Criminals suing victims doesn't always equate to the criminal winning. Common sense still prevails somewhat in the US court system, at least from what little I know.

But, the "justice system" is broken in nearly all developed countries, where criminal's rights seem to have surpassed victim's rights...so yeah.

But again, I'm glad that happened in the US. And back on topic :P

[Gridlock]

Tempers are running a little hot on this one.

Years ago, my ex and I were going home to our shitty ghetto apartment in behind metrotown late at night and we turn the corner on Imperial and there are a bunch of kids standing in the road.

Immediately you think, "not good". I tell her not to stop. Do not fucking stop. As we're going past, nice and slow as they didn't leave much room to channel us through the group, one kid winds up and wails the side of the car with a skateboard.

And they take off like rats on a sinking ship.

Point here is: You don't have a lot of time for planning, and everyone likes to make it best case scenario after the fact, "we were just riding our motorized bicycles officer, when Cruella DeVille here slammed through us with malice" Oh! We have video and it conveniently starts right where he's in the wrong, and we're victims.

[jeedee]

Tempers are running a little hot on this one.

Years ago, my ex and I were going home to our shitty ghetto apartment in behind metrotown late at night and we turn the corner on Imperial and there are a bunch of kids standing in the road.

Immediately you think, "not good". I tell her not to stop. Do not fucking stop. As we're going past, nice and slow as they didn't leave much room to channel us through the group, one kid winds up and wails the side of the car with a skateboard.

And they take off like rats on a sinking ship.

Were they trying to steal the car or something...

Should've just ran em over :troll:

[dared3vil0]

I'd hate to say those bikers deserved it...

















But they deserved it...

[subordinate]

Bikers were idiots for the way they were riding

Driver was an idiot for not calling the cops and staying on the highway - get cops involved, apologize to rider you hit (yes it looks like he brake checked him, and this deserved it, but in the end of the day 50 retards on motorbikes - I think I'd take the high road), offer to pay for any damage (clearly little to none), Shake hands, move on with life - like a fucking 33 yr old adult

Instead, he pussies out and tries to drive over a bunch of them, scares the shit out of his wife (way to go to protect your family, arse face), then gets a minor beat down/ damage to his vehicle.

I really think common sense is lacking in people these days - especially when you have a wife and kid in the car to protect

Hindsight always 20/20.

Like Gridlock's story, some people are just wanting/looking for trouble. And that many guys, surrounding your car. To top it off, a big guy gets off his bike and walks towards you?

There are some people that would take your apology/handshake well, exchange info, and accept your humility for the rear ending.

Others? Well, they just like watching the world burn. These riders riding like they are, have a common interest. They love riding and already sort of bonds them.

Factor in rage, tunnel vision, mob mentality and this spells disaster for the Range Rover guy.

[4444]

But clearly trying to run didn't work - hence call the cops, and get their protection.

[HKS PWR]

Unlike the rest of us that's watched the video and had the time to process the event and then write about it, the driver only had about 10 seconds to make a basic physiological response/choice: fight or flight.

Fight: he's just be fucked around with (encircled by bikers, brake checked, and forced to stop in the middle of a highway). Stick around and try to reason with the rider and 100+ of his buddies??!!??! Mob mentality is not something I want to deal with, especially with my wife and child in tow.

Flight: run over a few bikes/bikers and get my family to safety. This is a reasonable response, given this situation.

If the driver's intentions were truly malicious, he could have destroyed half of the bikes in that video.

[Harvey Specter]

On MSNBC they said the driver won't be charged, the bikers might be charged. They also mentioned that there might be civil suit against the bikers from the driver of the RR.

[boostfever]

Flight: run over a few bikes/bikers and get my family to safety. This is a reasonable response, given this situation.

the thing is he has nowhere to go with 100 fast bikes chasing him. he didn't stay for the police to arrive, instead he decided to flee and get stuck at a redlight and have the raged bikers smash his shit. not the smartest move by the SUV. Or he could drive straight to a police station.

he would have probably took less off a beating if he had just stayed to begin with and talked to the bikers, it wasn't like all the 100 bikers were attacking him, it was one guy who stopped him.

lucky no one died there.

[LP700-4]

Dont Range Rovers have double paned glass? Didnt know it was that easy to smash

[BrRsn]

double paned glass only has the benefit of insulating road noise and it doesn't fog up as quick -- definitely not any harder to break. Especially when your a fully grown man, full of adrenaline swinging a bike helmet

[DragonChi]

Sounds about right. A pack of bikers surrounding your car.

Fuck that shit, I would floor it too. WTF, I'm going to wait around for them to rip me out of my car.

That was a stupid move on the biker to break check on the highway. Even dumber of the range to tap him.

At the end of the day, this shit show could have been adverted. But this is what happens when you put two idiots together.

[Xu.Vi]

One stopping him and many others boxing him in. Bikers already seem enraged over something...I could only assume how mad they were once that idiot thought it'd be funny to break in front of the RR and got hit.

[Nlkko]

People still think brake-checking is cool? Fucking idiots. Too bad Darwin didnt get them.
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[dangonay]

All I can say is I'm glad the biker slowing down in front of the RR (on purpose, obviously) get hit. You wanna start shit then don't complain if you get your ass handed to you.

[ScizzMoney]

Of course it's the black guys breaking the windows in the end
:troll:

j/k j/k

[CP.AR]

would have done exactly the same.
But would have called the cops.

maybe get one of them stuck under the vehicle, and then build up some torque in the wheels and shoot off with them underneath the vehicle..
this is why people buy SUVs right?

[Energy]

The driver did call 911.

[Harvey Specter]

The driver (victim):

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1472044.1380575853!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/bikers1n-17-web.jpg

Biker who got hit:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1472242.1380595584!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/meises-1.jpg


Beating:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1472024.1380574307!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/lien-1.jpg
Aftermath:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1472025.1380584456!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/lien-1.jpg


More here:

SEE IT: Pack of motorcyclists chase man in SUV, attack him on upper Manhattan street after fender bender turned hit-and-run on West Side Highway prompted by driver running over biker as he fled - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pack-motorcyclists-chase-man-suv-attack-upper-manhattan-street-fender-bender-west-side-highway-article-1.1471585)

[DragonChi]

I wonder if 911 told him to pull off the highway...

Shoulda kept driving.

[dlo]

he had a slashed tire.. he had to pull off the highway

[xilley]

Both driver and biker don't look they got good temper. just guessing, looking at the pics.

I m honestly just kinda glad the wife and daughter didn't get hurt.

[alf]

i would have done the same thing, except i probably would have ran over some more bikers just for the hell of it

[LiquidTurbo]

What an unfortunate situation.

[KO7]

IMO, nothing good can come out of identifying the RR man and his wife. Somehow I doubt this is over in some of the bikers' minds, and they will continue to harass and go after him in his personal life.

[LiquidTurbo]

Bikers were idiots for the way they were riding

Driver was an idiot for not calling the cops and staying on the highway - get cops involved, apologize to rider you hit (yes it looks like he brake checked him, and this deserved it, but in the end of the day 50 retards on motorbikes - I think I'd take the high road), offer to pay for any damage (clearly little to none), Shake hands, move on with life - like a fucking 33 yr old adult

Instead, he pussies out and tries to drive over a bunch of them, scares the shit out of his wife (way to go to protect your family, arse face), then gets a minor beat down/ damage to his vehicle.

I really think common sense is lacking in people these days - especially when you have a wife and kid in the car to protect

I think you missed the part where a group started damaging his car and tried to pull him out. I doubt they were interested in shaking hands.

[PLUJ]

brake checking on a motorcycle while a range rover is behind= retarded biker

[HKS PWR]

the thing is he has nowhere to go with 100 fast bikes chasing him.

That's true, but in the heat of the moment with adrenaline pumping and being completely surrounded (with your family in the car with you), anywhere is better than "here".

.....it wasn't like all the 100 bikers were attacking him, it was one guy who stopped him.

The video showed that one biker brake checked, then he got hit. What happened next was all the bikers stopped. ALL OF THEM. Make no mistake about this. This was not a one-on-one encounter between a driver and a rider. It was the driver against all the bikers. He saw the potential for shit to get real bad. I can not blame the driver for fearing for his family and his own life.


If all the decision were made based on fact, logic and common sense, this probably wouldn't have happened. Cooler head would have prevailed. I mean, did the bikers really have to ride in all three lanes? The driver could have pulled over to the left lane and let the group pass. Again, hindsight is 20/20. Just glad no one died.

What really sucks is the child having to go through this ordeal

[4444]

I think you missed the part where a group started damaging his car and tried to pull him out. I doubt they were interested in shaking hands.

I think you missed what I wrote.

Call cops, everyone stops with the cops in control - you think there will be a beating with a bunch of cops in control (cops might do beating, different story)

Of course you wouldn't stop and try to shake hands without cops there, clearly this situation just got majorly out of control far too quick.

[LiquidTurbo]

I think you missed what I wrote.

Call cops, everyone stops with the cops in control - you think there will be a beating with a bunch of cops in control (cops might do beating, different story)

Of course you wouldn't stop and try to shake hands without cops there, clearly this situation just got majorly out of control far too quick.

HKS PWR's comment below pretty much sums up how I feel. Maybe we disagree on the outcome, but I think you are being way too idealistic. 10s isn't even enough time to get through to 911.

Unlike the rest of us that's watched the video and had the time to process the event and then write about it, the driver only had about 10 seconds to make a basic physiological response/choice: fight or flight.

Fight: he's just be fucked around with (encircled by bikers, brake checked, and forced to stop in the middle of a highway). Stick around and try to reason with the rider and 100+ of his buddies??!!??! Mob mentality is not something I want to deal with, especially with my wife and child in tow.

Flight: run over a few bikes/bikers and get my family to safety. This is a reasonable response, given this situation.

If the driver's intentions were truly malicious, he could have destroyed half of the bikes in that video.

[Soundy]

HKS PWR's comment below pretty much sums up how I feel. Maybe we disagree on the outcome, but I think you are being way too idealistic. 10s isn't even enough time to get through to 911.

Maybe you should read the NYP article posted on the previous page:

The bikers were speeding and driving erratically in the northbound lanes when Alexian Lien, 33, called 911 to report them about 1:30 p.m.

The bikers then surrounded the Lien’s dark-colored Range Rover while it was heading north near 125th Street in Harlem, according to video captured by a camera apparently attached to a biker’s helmet.

One biker then pulled directly in front and slowed down, forcing the SUV to stop, and the others converged on the Range Rover, laying their bikes down on the pavement to block the vehicle.

The panicked dad then gunned the engine and ran over several bikes before speeding off with the pack in hot pursuit, police sources said Monday.

[Sunfighter]

I have tried to digest what I have seen/read to come up with an opinion...

Like the gentleman in the SUV, I own/drive a Range Rover Sport.
Like the people on the bikes, I own/ride a sportbike.

That said, my only experiencing with riding in a group is with people from RS... and their road manners and their ability to obey the law is uncanny... but I have seen enough YouTube videos to recognize that most "rides" aren't populated with people from Revscene but rather with individuals who spend their time pouring over content on NewAgeThugStuntazATL.com ... a very different mentality...

I cannot imagine the panic/fear the driver of the Range would have felt when surrounded like that... to have remained stopped on the freeway would likely only to have invited the same brutality that we saw later in the video... I will NOT fault him for attempting to flee. I highly doubt that Range driver would have done anything to provoke a conflict. The bikers on the otherhand.

[Soundy]

The thing that really gets me is, this guy already showed he was willing to run over bikes to get away... yet they swarm around him - and in front of him - again. Did they not think he'd be willing to run them over again??

The Darwin is strong with these riders...

[4444]

HKS PWR's comment below pretty much sums up how I feel. Maybe we disagree on the outcome, but I think you are being way too idealistic. 10s isn't even enough time to get through to 911.

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying.

Whether he ran over someone or not, is one thing, shit happens when you have loads of bikes buzzing like hornets harassing you.

My point is, stay on motorway at 30, 50 km/h, wait for cops to catch up, everyone stops, you don't get your head beaten.

Why he took the off ramp into the city boggles my mind, flat tire or not, insurance will fix it, but insurance won't pay to fix the mental anguish this guy and his family will have associated with what happened once they stopped.

The first run over was just par for this stupid course, the second one, we'll not sure why he slowed down, but my point is as soon as he feels he's in big trouble - call cops, stay on motorway, pray you can keep speed up.

If bikers keep one slowing down in front of him and he clips them, not really his fault, but i would never stop, I would do all I can to stay at speed, waiting for help... These imbosils cannot be trusted to not do something stupid/ crazy

[!Kodamu]

same group, same day.



FILE0011 - YouTube

[dared3vil0]

Wow these guys are ignorant assholes... I used to think driving over speed bumps suck, but these guys would be some pretty gratifying speed bumps...

[Gridlock]

Pricks.

[Qmx323]

Thats fun...

Provoke someone innocent.

Get retaliation.

Cry about it.

[radioman]

same group, same day.



FILE0011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ujSkztMRrs)

Uploaded on Aug 20, 2011

EDIT: Although its not the same day. I would expect the same type of behavior coming from the group of the RR incident.

[boostfever]

anyone remembers this?

Road Rash Intro - YouTube

[Harvey Specter]

I'm sure the NYPD and the DA will make examples out of some of the bikers involved because it seems like they were already in the bad books with the NYPD.

[Lomac]

same group, same day.



FILE0011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ujSkztMRrs)

:fulloffuck:

Fuck. I have absolutely no problem with bikers, regardless of if they're on a Harley Softtail Deuce or an R1. What I do have an issue with, however, is the stupid mob mentality a lot of riders tend to get when they're in large groups. It's the same reason I don't do cruises with a large group of cars anymore - someone is bound to do something stupid. On a bike, if you're cut off while riding by yourself, you get angry but chances are you're not going to brake check the offender and start raging on the driver. But if you're in a large group, even if you're not particularly bothered by something happening to you, the chances of someone else in your group taking offence to it grows exponentially and things can often nose dive from there.

Not to mention all the stupid stunting people tend to pull while riding in a pack. :rolleyes:

[1exotic]

same group, same day.



FILE0011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ujSkztMRrs)

fukin wild animals

too bad the range rover didn't run more of them over

[bing]

Extreme road rage - Car tries to take out bikers!

RR driver should have copied this guy :lawl:

[Harvey Specter]

Shit, didn't know they smashed the passenger side window as well. Thankfully they didn't drag the wife out and beat her but it looks like cops arrested one biker...



http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/suvbikers-insert.jpg
http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/suvbikers-insert-2.jpg

Police arrested one biker among a swarm of motorcyclists that forced a driver off the West Side Highway in Upper Manhattan, minutes before the man was assaulted in front of his wife and two-year-old daughter more than 50 blocks away.

Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, New Jersey, was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing in the first of two harrowing confrontations Alexian Lien had with a pack of bikers when he and his family were out for a Sunday drive.

Cruz was on a bike that cut off Lien’s Range Rover and slowed down in front of him as other bikers circled the vehicle as the horror show initially unfolded in Harlem, police said.


He was rear-ended by Lien around 1:30 p.m., sparking a half-hour confrontation that forced the driver over to the side of the road, where other bikers slashed the father’s tires and one enraged rider opened the driver’s door and tried to pull him out of the SUV, sources said.

Law enforcement sources said Cruz’ erratic driving sparked the melee.

Cruz was briefly hospitalized and released for minor injuries, including lower back pain, authorities said.

He remained at the scene and is not believed to be among 20 to 30 bikers who followed the family up the West Side Highway onto West 178th Street and St. Nicholas Avenue in Washington Heights. That’s where the Range Rover came to a stop because its slashed tires went flat.

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At least two bikers smashed the windows, dragged the father out, punched him and slashed him in the face and chest, sources said.

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Police released a photo Tuesday morning of two suspects in the assault and slashing, which sent the father to the hospital for stitches on his face and chest. Lien, who also suffered two black eyes, was treated and released.

Video from a camera on one of the biker’s helmets shows a man with a Guyana sticker on the back of his blue bike watching as another biker smashed Lien’s window with his helmet. It also captured a rider who has a black and white spider’s web pattern on the tail pipe jumping off and pummeling the SUV.

The footage stops before Lien is dragged out of the car, beaten and slashed but cops are looking for those two riders who appeared to be part of the mob that attacked the victim in front of his horrified wife and two-year-old daughter, sources said

Cops bust road rage bike thug | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/cops-bust-bike-thug/)

[Ferra]

I don't get why so many people think the SUV driver is partly to blame for this, I don't think the driver lost his temper, it looks to me like he was scared and fleeing the whole time.

If the SUV driver was raging, he would've ram those bikers chasing beside him left and right.

And do you really blame him for running like that?? The bikers were acting like a group of violent raging monkeys...

[Ferra]

just read the articles...
Lien, director of the e-commerce firm Skrill.com, was punched and slashed in the face with a knife in the shocking attack that occurred in daylight hours in front of horrified witnesses.
:heckno:



And cops don't magically appear once you call them, people can do a lot of bad things to you in 10 minutes...(articles said he called the cops before all this happened)

[Soundy]

My point is, stay on motorway at 30, 50 km/h, wait for cops to catch up, everyone stops, you don't get your head beaten.

Why he took the off ramp into the city boggles my mind, flat tire or not,
It's easy for an experienced driver to see that with the benefit of hindsight and 5000 miles' separation from the incident. On the other hand, if you're an urbanite who probably dumped a bunch of money on a RR for the prestige factor and likely only use it as a Sunday driver... then when you find you and your family in a scene from Mad Max, all that's going thought your mind is probably, "this shit is crazy, I gotta get the fuck outta here." You're not plotting your course two miles ahead, you're not thinking about, "if I exit here, I might hit traffic", you're just looking for any "out" from the situation. He probably just saw the exit as a way to escape the bikes in front of him, and took it.

[The_AK]

found another video from a different angle
















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[Phil@rise]

From what I saw in that video and the way the riders were chasing brake checking and riding as dangerously as they were then to box me and my children in and attack us there would be alot of mangled riders. ALOT! Thats bullshit gang like strength in numbers aggression.

[Lomac]

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[4444]

It's easy for an experienced driver to see that with the benefit of hindsight and 5000 miles' separation from the incident. On the other hand, if you're an urbanite who probably dumped a bunch of money on a RR for the prestige factor and likely only use it as a Sunday driver... then when you find you and your family in a scene from Mad Max, all that's going thought your mind is probably, "this shit is crazy, I gotta get the fuck outta here." You're not plotting your course two miles ahead, you're not thinking about, "if I exit here, I might hit traffic", you're just looking for any "out" from the situation. He probably just saw the exit as a way to escape the bikes in front of him, and took it.

really? i guess it's just me then.

i don't see it as a experienced driver thing, i see it as a survival thing - two options, go into city, guaranteed red lights, stop, get beat, stay on motorway, less risk of stops, less risk of beats - i'll choose the latter option.

maybe it's darwinism/innate survival skills?

but i fully appreciate your point

[Soundy]

There's survival mode, and then there's full fucking panic mode, when the brain stops working rationally.

Rationally, he could have done what you suggest. Rationally, he could have done like Phil says and thinned the herd substantially. Rationally, he's driving a fucking 4x4 (pavement princess, but still...), there are probably a half-dozen ways he could have avoided the traffic, gone off the road, over some low medians, or other ways that at least some bikes couldn't have followed. Rationally, he would have realized that exiting the freeway would put him in heavy traffic.

I think it's pretty clear by this point that he was way beyond rational and into full fucking panic mode.

[Ferra]

really? i guess it's just me then.

i don't see it as a experienced driver thing, i see it as a survival thing - two options, go into city, guaranteed red lights, stop, get beat, stay on motorway, less risk of stops, less risk of beats - i'll choose the latter option.

maybe it's darwinism/innate survival skills?

but i fully appreciate your point
arrogant much..?
have you ever been thru an interview or live debate, and afterward, thought you could've said a lot of things differently and given a much better answer than you did?
People can't make the best decision under pressure, he wasn't like you sitting at home infront of his computer when he had to make those decision.

Plus, there are a lot of good reasons to go inside the city
1) When you are being chased by a group of homicidal maniacs, your natural instinct is probably to go into a well populated area.
2) It is NY city, there should be cops every few blocks inside the city
3) His car tire is slashed, he has little control of his vehicle and could easily crash his SUV on the freeway and hurt his family.
4) If the bikes managed to stop him (or his RR breaks down), help will be few and far on the freeway. (inside the city you will have hundreds of bystanders who might help or at least act an a deterrent)

Going into the city might not be the best decision, but it is definitely not an unreasonable one.

[Ferra]

And somehow I get the feeling that if the driver was driving a mini-van (instead of a black Range Rover), he would've received a lot more sympathy...

I know when I saw the thread title (before watching the video), I thought it was one of those thuggish crazy RR driver trying to run down bikers in a fit of rage..

[4444]

arrogant much..?
have you ever been thru an interview or live debate, and afterward, thought you could've said a lot of things differently and given a much better answer than you did?
People can't make the best decision under pressure, he wasn't like you sitting at home infront of his computer when he had to make those decision.

Plus, there are a lot of good reasons to go inside the city
1) When you are being chased by a group of homicidal maniacs, your natural instinct is probably to go into a well populated area.
2) It is NY city, there should be cops every few blocks inside the city
3) His car tire is slashed, he has little control of his vehicle and could easily crash his SUV on the freeway and hurt his family.
4) If the bikes managed to stop him (or his RR breaks down), help will be few and far on the freeway. (inside the city you will have hundreds of bystanders who might help or at least act an a deterrent)

Going into the city might not be the best decision, but it is definitely not an unreasonable one.

thanks for calling me arrogant.

there are people in this world who have to make quick decisions, decisions that have significant effects on many lives (i'm thinking military, but also in the business world it is vital) - some people are good at making quick decisions, some people aren't, whether under great stress or otherwise.

you are either one of these people, or you are not, i'm not saying this is a good or bad thing - clearly this guy is not one of these people, and i guess, on reflection of my life to date, i am probably better than not, but to say that my stance is arrogant because of this is ignorant on your part

[cruz-in]

ive had my fare share of nice and bad bikers out there.. ive even had it one time where i was eying some guys ducati and i said " nice bike " .. guy said thanks and pulled out some juicy fruit and asked if i wanted some. I said yes and i took a stick and he sped off when the light turned green.

thanks MR DUCATI . i didnt know my bad breath can seep through your helmet.

true story.

[wingies]

NEW YORK — A man driving with his family along a New York City highway was attacked and beaten by a large group of motorcyclists who first surrounded his sport utility vehicle and stopped it on the road, then chased him for miles after he plowed through the blockade of bikes in an attempt to escape.

One biker suffered two broken legs and other severe injuries when the SUV ran over him, police said. A second biker suffered a leg injury. The driver, who was travelling with his wife and toddler, was taken to a hospital where he required stitches to his face.

The frightening assault on the 33-year-old man began around 1:30 p.m. local time Sunday on Manhattan’s West Side Highway and was partially captured on a helmet-mounted video camera worn by one of the riders involved in the chase.

A portion of the video posted on the Internet by an unidentified user shows a large group of bikers swarming around the Range Rover as it heads north on the highway. One of the bikers then moves into the SUV’s lane and rides briefly alongside the vehicle, peering in through the driver’s side window. It isn’t clear from the video what the driver might have done to anger the motorcyclist.

The biker then cuts in front of the Range Rover and, still staring at the driver, suddenly slows down. It isn’t captured on the video, but the motorcycle and SUV bumped, police said.

The motorcyclists, 20 to 30 in all, then come to a complete halt on the highway, blocking the SUV’s path. Some dismount and approach the vehicle. Police said some of the bikers then began damaging the Range Rover, which isn’t clear from the video.

The video shows the SUV suddenly accelerating, bouncing over at least one of the motorcycles and its rider as others scramble to get out of the way. The cyclists give chase, pursuing the driver for about 4 kilometres. At one point, the bikers succeed in getting the SUV to stop. One ripped open the driver’s door, but he sped away.

The chase ended when the SUV exited the highway and got stuck in traffic on a city street. The video shows one biker using his helmet to smash the driver’s window. Police said the group then pulled the man from the SUV and beat him, although that part isn’t shown on the recording posted online. The police department confirmed that the video circulating online is authentic.

Police didn’t identify the driver, who was not charged. His wife and child were not injured.

On Tuesday, police arrested the biker who was involved in the initial accident. Christopher Cruz, 28, of New Jersey, was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing. He was not injured. Cruz was in custody awaiting arraignment Tuesday and hadn’t yet been assigned a lawyer. A woman who answered a phone number listed in some records as being connected with the address where Cruz lives said she didn’t speak English and hung up the phone.

Police distributed an image of two bikers they said were involved in the chase and said they were wanted for assault.

Police believe some of the bikers belong to a gang known as Hollywood Stuntz. They said the motorcyclists were part of a planned but unauthorized event in which hundreds of riders gathered outside of Manhattan, with the intent of driving into Times Square en masse.

Biker was arrested and 2 others wanted for assault. Driver was not charged

Biker arrested after motorcyclists swarm SUV, pull driver from vehicle and beat him (http://www.theprovince.com/news/Biker+arrested+after+motorcyclists+swarm+pull+driv er+from/8983429/story.html)

[bing]

Apparently, some of the bikers suffered serious injuries.

According to CBS Boston, the wife of one of the injured bikers says her husband is paralyzed and in a coma.

Dayana Mieses says her husband, Edwin Mieses, got off his bike to help a biker who was hit in the initial collision and was injured in the process, reports the station. She says her husband has injuries to his heart, lungs and ribs and that he is paralyzed from the waist down.

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video-shows-bikers-chasing-down-driver-in-new-york (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/video-shows-bikers-chasing-down-driver-in-new-york/story-fni0xs63-1226731187672)

[Ferra]

thanks for calling me arrogant.

there are people in this world who have to make quick decisions, decisions that have significant effects on many lives (i'm thinking military, but also in the business world it is vital) - some people are good at making quick decisions, some people aren't, whether under great stress or otherwise.

you are either one of these people, or you are not, i'm not saying this is a good or bad thing - clearly this guy is not one of these people, and i guess, on reflection of my life to date, i am probably better than not, but to say that my stance is arrogant because of this is ignorant on your part
translation: Some people are good at making quick decisions under stress, I am one of these people. I am not saying this is a good or bad thing (because the answer is kinda implied...only retards would think being able to make decision under stress could be a bad thing)
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[inv4zn]

Let it go you two, lest this thread be moved to fight club.

The wife and mother of the motorcyclist who was run over and paralyzed is demanding that the RR driver "pay for what he did."

Not entirely sure how I feel about this - wouldn't go as far as to say he deserved it...i dunno.

Pretty fucked up story overall though. Interesting to see what other legal repercussions there are for parties involved. Glad to see that the wife and child are safe (physically anyway.)

[Lomac]

Just gonna leave this here:

Deleted Videos Show Asshat Bikers Before Range Rover Attack (http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736/@orlove)

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChZzZN1YeNLiXVs0XFmaGGA

Apparently Lady Gaga, of all people, saved the YT footage before the original uploader deleted it off their account. :seriously:

I didn't go through all the footage, but man... some of the shit they pulled (blowing through red lights, driving on the wrong side of the road, splitting lanes while cutting off cars trying to get on and off the highway, etc) made me rage too hard to continue watching.

[fliptuner]

The wife and mother of the motorcyclist who was run over and paralyzed is demanding that the RR driver "pay for what he did."

Not entirely sure how I feel about this - wouldn't go as far as to say he deserved it...i dunno.


What if the guy was injured while he was robbing someone's house?
What if he was the look-out for said robbery but the owner came home and beat the living shit out of him?

Would you feel differently?

[snails]

i have always been someone who strongly believes that if you fuck around bad things will happen and you will only have yourself to blame.

from play fighting with friends and you get hurt to driving like a moron.. people dont deserve to be paralyzed for things like this but what do you think happens when you involve yourself with a 2-3 ton vehicle.. you lose no matter what.

nothing can change what had happened and the only thing i would have done differently was throw the vehicle into reverse when i got into traffic.. for self defense reasons of course...

[Jgresch]

Just gonna leave this here:

Deleted Videos Show Asshat Bikers Before Range Rover Attack (http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736/@orlove)

LadyGagaOfficial - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChZzZN1YeNLiXVs0XFmaGGA)

Apparently Lady Gaga, of all people, saved the YT footage before the original uploader deleted it off their account. :seriously:

I didn't go through all the footage, but man... some of the shit they pulled (blowing through red lights, driving on the wrong side of the road, splitting lanes while cutting off cars trying to get on and off the highway, etc) made me rage too hard to continue watching.

That isn't Lady Gaga's account lol...

[fishCak3s]

Shit, didn't know they smashed the passenger side window as well. Thankfully they didn't drag the wife out and beat her but it looks like cops arrested one biker...

Seems like the wife was getting out of the car and the rear passenger door was open as well.

[inv4zn]

What if the guy was injured while he was robbing someone's house?
What if he was the look-out for said robbery but the owner came home and beat the living shit out of him?

Would you feel differently?

If he wasn't (and that's an if) doing anything to the RR, and was only hurt because he happened to be in front of it, then your examples don't follow.

I'm not blaming the RR driver, but as I said, I'm torn.

A better example would be, if you were chilling with a bunch of friends, who had beef with some gangbangers and you all got jumped, even though you didn't do anything, what then?

[fliptuner]

Yeah, we're looking at it from different angles.

The way I see it, he was rolling with a bunch of guys that were causing a menace, all over town. Whether he was doing it himself or not, the fact that he chose to stay with them and participate in the cruise, means he was aware that they were being douches and there was a possibility of getting busted or someone retaliating. He took the chance to stay and the worst happened....

[adambomb]

Apparently, some of the bikers suffered serious injuries.



video-shows-bikers-chasing-down-driver-in-new-york (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/video-shows-bikers-chasing-down-driver-in-new-york/story-fni0xs63-1226731187672)


There's a facebook page setup to raise funds for this guy. The comments get pretty nasty. I have no idea why they are still open... :Popcorn

[Lomac]

That isn't Lady Gaga's account lol...

lol You're right. I was just quoting what I saw on Jalopnik earlier today :p

[Graeme S]

I feel seriously shitty for the guy in the coma, but the people who are liable are the ones who were responsible for instigating the incident: the guy who brake-checked the RR, and then subsequently the ones who started beating on his RR when he stopped.

I always want to pin blame on the ones who pulled him out and beat him in front of his wife and kids but that's almost a second issue, since the two incidents are sort of mutually triggered.

[duy-]

If he wasn't (and that's an if) doing anything to the RR, and was only hurt because he happened to be in front of it, then your examples don't follow.

I'm not blaming the RR driver, but as I said, I'm torn.

A better example would be, if you were chilling with a bunch of friends, who had beef with some gangbangers and you all got jumped, even though you didn't do anything, what then?

a better example would be, if you're riding around town with a bunch of idiot friends on motorcycles causing trouble and then you try to force a range rover over and parked in front of him to box him in then you get ran over, even though you didnt do anything is it your fault? i mean you're just there for the atmosphere, and you were completely oblivious to what your friends do.
unfortunately although i do feel for the wife, i feel no sympathy towards the biker, he and his group put himself in that situation. it should be the other bikers the wife should be going after

[Soundy]

Yeah, we're looking at it from different angles.

The way I see it, he was rolling with a bunch of guys that were causing a menace, all over town. Whether he was doing it himself or not, the fact that he chose to stay with them and participate in the cruise, means he was aware that they were being douches and there was a possibility of getting busted or someone retaliating. He took the chance to stay and the worst happened....

One of the comments on that Jalopnik link sums it up nicely:

I've been in a similar situation with Critical Mass on bikes here in SF. It's been years since I've ridden with them. I've seen too many people on that ride behave like complete assholes and I want nothing to do with it. I can tell you with certainty the minute I saw things get aggressive with bikes and cars the first time was all "fuck this, I'm not taking part." My thoughts are if you hang with troublemakers, then you should be ready for what's coming your way. As long as all of your riding buddies are playing the golden rule then all should be well. If not, then this should be your attitude...

Eric Cartman - Screw You Guys Im Going Home [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cDWgs2cnga0)

[fliptuner]

"You're only as good as the company you keep"

[radioman]

Old man Iceboi is wise.

[vafanculo]

You can't blame the driver. He's in a car with his wife and kid going for a weekend ride, when like out of the movies he's targeted by a group of bikers after being in an accident, none of which was his fault.

It sucks for the guy in the coma, especially if he was just being a helping hand to the other biker.. But he was in the wrong place at the wrong time - all caused by his group.

Imagine this group rode abiding the rules of the road? This guy would be walking and the SUV driver wouldn't have cuts to his face.

This is kind of like trying to tame a lion, getting attacked by it, killing it and blaming the cat.
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[SpeedStars]

9 Jay Meezee Photos - Range Rover Hit Edwin Mieses Jr: Paralyzed, Coma (http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/10/01/crime/jay-meezee-photos-edwin-mieses-jr-range-rover-paralyzed-coma/#9)

edit:nvm he was green biker dude

[Stiig]

Dayana Mieses says her husband, Edwin Mieses, got off his bike to help a biker who was hit in the initial collision and was injured in the process, reports the station. She says her husband has injuries to his heart, lungs and ribs and that he is paralyzed from the waist down.

From the videos posted here regarding the group of bikers riding erratically, I'm pretty sure this guy is one of them... and he's not just somebody who "...got off his bike to help a biker..."
So he helped a fellow biker, now he's a hero? Fucking hate it when people like him who starts shit suddenly deserve sympathy/turn into heroes or whatnot because they get hurt. IMO this guy deserved 100% of whatever he has now. If medical complications don't get to him first, then good thing his paralysis can serve as a lifetime souvenir of his stupidity.

Link taken from user below my post

http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/10/01/crime/jay-meezee-photos-edwin-mieses-jr-range-rover-paralyzed-coma/#9

point made.

[Ludepower]

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[Redlines_Daily]

Lots of people siding with the range rover. I ride both machines and will always side with a motorcycle cause a 400lbs bike vs 4000lbs car is never a fair fight no matter whos right or wrong.

Technically the range rover is at fault. If you're being surrounded by a group of menace baiting you on...do NOT escalate the problem. Keep you cool. Think rationally and call the cops.
Instead he rears ends them (break check or not...you're at fault) and worse runs several people over.

The riders who retaliated with physical violence should also be charged. What Im getting at is...do not take the laws into your own hand. Let the cops and evidence make the judgement call.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said. Fight stopped being fair when there was 100+ on 1. If someone intentionally bswerves and brakes infront of you, no its not your fault..ICBC policy doesn't determine real life consequences. If you or your family is at danger then you have an absolute divine right to protect yourself and them, so yes..take the law into your own hands within reason.

[nabs]

And somehow I get the feeling that if the driver was driving a mini-van (instead of a black Range Rover), he would've received a lot more sympathy...

I know when I saw the thread title (before watching the video), I thought it was one of those thuggish crazy RR driver trying to run down bikers in a fit of rage..

I can see that you typed something, but I can't keep my eyes off of your avatar...

:megusta:

[vafanculo]

Lots of people siding with the range rover. I ride both machines and will always side with a motorcycle cause a 400lbs bike vs 4000lbs car is never a fair fight no matter whos right or wrong.

Technically the range rover is at fault. If you're being surrounded by a group of menace baiting you on...do NOT escalate the problem. Keep you cool. Think rationally and call the cops.
Instead he rears ends them (break check or not...you're at fault) and worse runs several people over.

The riders who retaliated with physical violence should also be charged. What Im getting at is...do not take the laws into your own hand. Let the cops and evidence make the judgement call.


Also disagree. If I'm the RR guy, my life's more important then yours is, and so's is my wife's and daughters.

IMO, he made the right move. At the end of the day, he's walking away from that..you can't exactly say the same for the others...
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[nsx042003]

Should've drove straight to police station while calling 911 in the process.

but what incident happened before this video? there was an accident and range rover sped off? I don't get what event triggered the bikers to box it in.

[hi-revs]

Why would a guy on a bike EVER want to mess with a guy in a car, let alone a RR?

Like seriously. Did the guy on the bike really think he wouldnt get f*cked up one way or another?

I believe that if you have the intent to carry out a harmful act upon somebody, or somebody's possession, then anybody else can do the same thing to you if not worse.

I must admit that if i was in that same position, i would have done the exact same thing. GTFO! Go somewhere where help/witnesses are readily available.

On a side note, im surprised that the driver in the RR didnt turn on rage mode and side swipe any of the bikers. (Obviously then the driver would be in a lot of trouble. But i'd admit that that did cross my mind when initially watching that vid)

[Energy]

Like many people on here, I agree that what the RR driver did in the circumstances was correct.

And wow at the mob mentality of those bikers. We've seen what mob mentality can do to people and its bad, just take a look what happened during the 2011 Stanley Cup Riots.

[DragonChi]

Lots of people siding with the range rover. I ride both machines and will always side with a motorcycle cause a 400lbs bike vs 4000lbs car is never a fair fight no matter whos right or wrong.

Technically the range rover is at fault. If you're being surrounded by a group of menace baiting you on...do NOT escalate the problem. Keep you cool. Think rationally and call the cops.
Instead he rears ends them (break check or not...you're at fault) and worse runs several people over.

The riders who retaliated with physical violence should also be charged. What Im getting at is...do not take the laws into your own hand. Let the cops and evidence make the judgement call.


On a bike, if you ride like an idiot, be prepared to pay with your life.

This whole situation makes me wish I was white in America so I could blast the rest of these biker fools and get away with it.

[bing]

There's a facebook page setup to raise funds for this guy. The comments get pretty nasty. I have no idea why they are still open... :Popcorn

Definitely getting a lot of hate.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-For-Jay-Meezee/411664345601619

[yousername]

Do not take the law in to my own hands? If my wife and kid were involved in a situation like this and you try putting us in danger, you better be prepared for me to put you in the ground. What makes you think he or his wife did not call the police? Better question, what makes you think the police would have got there within good time to save them? Were these little pocket bikes chasing the RR? NO. So no matter what speed he was going at to try to evade the group they would have caught up, surrounded him and come to a complete stop to first argue and then beat the shit out of him only sooner than when he took the exit in to the city. "Oh shit 100+ bikers are about to kill us, here is the game plan dear!" Ain't nobody got time fo dat when you're about to shit your pants. You would need a really good plan to keep safe from a mob of angry bikers. Hell, even only a handful of angry bikers. The man did what almost any normal human being would have done in fear of his and his family's safety. Plow these crazy mother fuckers and bounce, what ever it takes ffs. GG to the ones that posted up in front of a big SUV while your buddies are harassing the family. Should've expected to get run over. Did they think he was going to stop at their command on the highway to talk about the situation, make up and go for some earl grey tea and crumpets? Thats what would have happened.. in a fuckn fairy tale. What ever happened prior to the video, like if he was making "mean gestures," who cares? Grow the fuck up and enjoy your damn cruise so your shit don't get banned or in trouble. Retard's, full Retards.
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[LiquidTurbo]

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

[K.Dubz]

Our Two Cents: Range Rover Runs Over Bikers in NYC - YouTube

[fliptuner]

Do bullets move faster if you lean into the shot? :troll:

[Zedbra]

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

I like that one.

Seems like karma sorted this situation out in an OK fashion.

[Gh0stRider]

stupid bikers

[StylinRed]

not sure if its been noted but at least one of the bikers was arrested/charged saw it on CNN as i was leaving

and supposedly one of the bikers is paralyzed / in a induced coma (according to his mother)

also "many" of the bikers didn't have plates and some had suspended licenses

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cops-hunt-bikers-wanted-wild-upper-manhattan-attack-article-1.1472419

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/10/01/228075261/nyc-police-studying-shocking-video-of-bikers-attacking-driver

picture of the RR driver left on the ground

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1472411.1380629148!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/lien-1.jpg

[ImportPsycho]

Definitely getting a lot of hate.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-For-Jay-Meezee/411664345601619

cool, where to I make donation?










to pull the plug on this piece of turd?

[Soundy]

Definitely getting a lot of hate.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-For-Jay-Meezee/411664345601619

Lulz at some of the comments...

"everyone's a rapper nowadays..lmfao make a song called I'm a veggie 4life nigguh!"

Okay, okay, benefit of the doubt, he was just trying to help out another person... in a situation that if he was THAT altruistic, he never should have been in the middle of in the first place.

[T4RAWR]

the amount of idiocy on the facebook pages (both "Meezee's" and Alexien's) from people siding with the bikers is astronomically frightening to say the least. to think that eventually these people will procreate and raise more retards is a sad outlook for humanity.

[ShanghaiKid]

rofl. the media tries so hard.

Mom Of West Side Highway Biker: 'He'll Never Walk Again'. Range Rover vs Bikers NYC - YouTube

quotting a comment that i couldn't agree more with:

"This family speaks volumes about the mentality of the shitheels riding those bikes that day. This assholes's brother and mother are actually defending the rider's actions? They act like they were out on a legal and harmless ride for charity or something. "They were on their annual ride out". A ride out? Is that what you call that? I could have swore I saw a bunch of assholes who took their plates off their bikes so they couldn't be identified while they went marauding around the city committing every moving violation in the book. Not to mention intimidating and terrifying every motorist they encountered.
These jackasses were weaving in and out of oncoming traffic, blowing through red lights, driving on the sidewalks and forcing other motorists off the road. And this woman wants justice? Are you fucking kidding me? Every single state in the US has a self defense statute in the books. I 100% guarantee that the driver of the Ranger Rover was convinced that his life and the life of his wife and child was in danger from the mob of deranged bikers. He won't be charged and shouldn't be charged. Why? because he was well within his right to defend himself and his family by making a hole through those bikers so he could escape.

Fuck this guys family. News flash to the mom. This isn't the road warrior and your son isn't Lord Humungus! They don't get to drive around town and do whatever the fuck they want. One last point. I've watched all the other footage of this "Annual ride out". All I can say is where the fuck were the cops? I couldn't believe I didn't see these clowns inadvertently role by a single cop on their rampage through town. Where are the fucking cops in NYC?"

[320icar]

http://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/insert-bs-here-4/90323-range-rover-runs-over-bikers-t7wmucz-jpg?dateline=1380631849
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[T4RAWR]

found this on the support page for Meezee


http://i.imgur.com/nDJryut.png


its terrible but i lol'd

[lemon4]

It certainly appeal to the public when the best photo of your son is in ghetto gangster clothes with a hand gesture to the camera. 0:19

[Harvey Specter]

It's a tragic situation all around.

One thing that's still shocking to me is the lack of police presence and response when all of this was happening even though the NYPD knew these guys were trouble. And I read that the bikers even blocked of the entrances to the highway so they could have the highway to themselves to do "tricks" and even than there were no cops around.

[xSin]

The total lack of police presence is indeed astonishing. There are some very interesting posts on that Facebook site though for sure! I like this one...

"Here is some additional information you all might want to read. This is my personal experience with this situation. I made sure to post this on the support site as well. As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these gangs. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic. Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a "brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping. Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out. These "bikers" ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law. If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police. This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police. Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. You will rarely if ever see a member of these gangs on a Harley. Do not for a minute blame true bikers for this kind of behavior. Bikers like those involved in the 2 million Bikers to DC Rally are American Patriots and would be among the first to come to your aid. A final note, always be aware of motorcycles and share the road. Check your mirrors and don't ride anyone's bumper, motorcycles have a much smaller profile then a car and are harder to see."

[is350]

Now I think about it, run flat tires especially in Bimmers will be put into great use in this case. He wouldn't have to get off the highway and could've continued to just ride along until the police catch up to them.

[7seven]

It's just too bad more of these idiots on bikes didn't get run over. Yes I truly feel that way.

[nma]

Now I think about it, run flat tires especially in Bimmers will be put into great use in this case. He wouldn't have to get off the highway and could've continued to just ride along until the police catch up to them.

I don't think run flat tires would last that long if they are slashing your tires... lol... it's meant more for small punctures

[melloman]

Meezee guy, should sue the guy he was helping for being a brake-checking idiot. /end.

[E-SPEC]

Should have hit more of them.

[snails]

anyone here on a bike forum? im curios to see how the opinion differs on this subject

[320icar]

Just go look at the revscene riders corner
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[thumper]

anyone here on a bike forum? im curios to see how the opinion differs on this subject

Range Rover runs over bikers in NYC (http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/150151-Range-Rover-runs-over-bikers-in-NYC)

[Soundy]

Range Rover runs over bikers in NYC (http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/150151-Range-Rover-runs-over-bikers-in-NYC)

I'd say this post probably sums it up for most:

The idiots blocking the road in the name of their pose-a-thon had it coming, but running them over is ridiculously over the line. Can't say I disagree with the ass whooping he got. Now there are a bunch of people in the hospital and a bunch more with criminal records, all of which could have easily been avoided. 'Murica.

// edit - read the article and watched the full video instead of just the 'action bits;' take back what I said above, driver was totally in the right and I'd have likely done the same thing myself.

Also:
Dude brake checks him (he has his wife and kid in the vehicle), he hits that dude lightly. stops. bikers surround him, and then start kicking, smashing his vehicle, he then takes off (knocking them over in the process). we'd all do the same thing.
Guy with a family caught up in a group of riders, is involved in a "totally bike rider caused" accident. They attack him. If it was me protecting my family, I'd crush anyone who tried to stop me escaping. Serves the idiots right.

[Soundy]

Also saw this post on another bike forum:
Way to go.. brake check a larger vehicle, get hit by it (Physics you idiot), then get your ass ran over after all your idiot friends assault the vehicle with a family inside because of your stupid actions. The guy was just defending his family here and himself. Proceed to chase the guy even more, make yourself more of a threat of an accident, then beat the crap out of him. Great way to give bikers a good name in your town.

I urge anyone with info on this to go turn these pieces of trash into the police.

Quite frankly, as a rider and a CMV driver, Im absolutely DISGUSTED with this.
Seems to be the prevailing sentiment among riders as well, as more and more details come out. Most of the threads and news items start off the same, with simply a crazed RR driver running over some peaceful riders... but as the full story emerges, there aren't a lot of people out there siding with the riders.

[E-SPEC]

New York? Bronx exit? (allthough they could have been from anywhere in NY) Is it any wonder they all went stupid thug monkey on the poor Range?

[Stiig]

He (lien) obviously did the right thing and fled.
http://http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jtLZSB56emg
Doesnt take that many people to flip a car over and obviously the bikers could have done it if he didnt flee. Shake hands and apologize about it? Fuck that he didnt do anything wrong so why should he apologize?
So is this meezee piece of shit dead yet? more of the scumbag bikers shouldve been killed/seriously injured in this incident.

[fishCak3s]

Probably felt like this for the driver of the RR

[wstce92]

Meezee makes me happy.
As I grow older, my faith in karma has pretty much all but died.
He deserves much worse IMO, and more of his fellow asshole bikers deserve worse.
But this is a good start.

[thumper]

can't search at work right now... read on another forum that this may have happened before back in 2011 involving the same group. i think it was jalopnik

[thumper]

(repost deleted)

[thumper]

a little more info:

2nd biker arrested in NYC Range Rover chase won't be charged: DA - News - MSN CA (http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/2nd-biker-arrested-in-nyc-range-rover-chase-wont-be-charged-da-1)

[Harvey Specter]

The bulletproof 7 video was posted a page back. Lets try not to repost the same stuff.

[Nlkko]

GG Meezee.

[thumper]

The bulletproof 7 video was posted a page back. Lets try not to repost the same stuff.



sorry again. i keep doing that. tried to use the search option and it didn't pick it up.

[adambomb]

a little more info:

2nd biker arrested in NYC Range Rover chase won't be charged: DA - News - MSN CA (http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/2nd-biker-arrested-in-nyc-range-rover-chase-wont-be-charged-da-1)

Cue the grief stricken family member of the innocent "aspiring" rapper, using the gap between rich and poor as a foundation. Plus, as we all know, only successful rappers drive RR's.

Mieses’ aunt, Delilah Domenech, told NBC News her nephew was “an innocent bystander” in the confrontation and only got off his bike to check on Cruz after he was clipped by Lien.

"This man with a Range Rover and luxury lifestyle — it's OK for him to do something to someone because he rides a bike or has tattoos?" she said.
:Petting

[thumper]

Our Two Cents: Range Rover Runs Over Bikers in NYC - YouTube (http://youtu.be/V7tQR6KtkIU)

i reposted this video by accident... but i wanted to ask what the laws are in the US for doing this sort of conversion?

i know it's off-topic but after seeing this demo i can't help but recall this: Police holding armoured car belonging to Bacon brothers - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/police-holding-armoured-car-belonging-to-bacon-brothers-1.857597)

hopefully nothing like what happened in new york would happen here (hockey riots aside). your family would be safe but ICBC will come knocking on your door...

[ScratchedMy991]

Deleted Videos Show Asshat Bikers Before Range Rover Attack (http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736/@orlove)

[nsx042003]

What ever happened prior to the video, like if he was making "mean gestures," who cares? Grow the fuck up and enjoy your damn cruise so your shit don't get banned or in trouble. Retard's, full Retards.
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Why wouldn't any of what happened prior matter?
For sure, if the bikers were just being asses and suddenly wanted to bully the range rover, then yeah, they got what's coming. Anyone would've done the same, hell I might have caused more trouble.

I'm only wondering what if the RR triggered this event? At least then he should be partly responsible, openly knowing how it could turn this ugly. But it's a tragedy either way, rage doesn't solve anything. That's all I'm saying.

Edit: well Fuck me. looks like it was just asshat bikers out causing trouble. Goddamn idiots.

[AW607]

Been following this for a couple of days. I can't help but to put myself in his shoes and think, "how else could I get out of this situation?" I wouldn't have found any other way other than his way of running through those guys. Makes my blood boil just watching them, bunch of clowns

[T4RAWR]

However, records show that Mieses never had a valid driver's license nor motorcycle license.

In June, the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles notified the National Driver Register that Mieses' right to drive in the state was revoked until 2017 for habitual traffic offenses, according to a Boston Globe report.


Bikers Attack SUV: Gruesome Photos Of Alexian Lien And 'Jay Meezee' Emerge After Road Rage Video Goes Viral [VIDEO] (http://www.ibtimes.com/bikers-attack-suv-gruesome-photos-alexian-lien-jay-meezee-emerge-after-road-rage-video-goes-viral)

what a fucking angel.

[impactX]

The only thing the driver could have done better was to stay on the highway...

[thumper]

The only thing the driver could have done better was to stay on the highway...

they said all the tires had been slashed on the range rover... maybe it got so bad he was forced to make a try for surface streets and hopefully run into the NYPD? (i think the highway is patrolled by the new york state police)

[bing]

Jay or Mieses won't have to drive illegally anymore as his new set of wheels won't require a license :troll:

Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver’s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said. Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner’s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. ... Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times .... In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.

Read more at: http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/10/jeremiah-edwin-mieses-jay-meezee-road-rage-video/

[boostfever]

not much "tire" left as you can see in this photo. right front wheel is rolling on the rims.

and run flats are no help when you slash the tires.

http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/suvbikers-insert-2.jpg

[tarobbt]

How about the city step in and stop these events. Evidence is clear that these riders are nothing but douchebags.

Better yet pull a China and drive a tank through those morons. Nothing worse than idiots trying to flaunt their pack mentality and then disregard everything else around them.

Glad this shit doesn't happen here seriously, even douchebags at car meets get singled out.

[thumper]

can't search at work right now... read on another forum that this may have happened before back in 2011 involving the same group. i think it was jalopnik

i found the video:

BIKER GANG ATTACK PRIUS yes, the SAME group - Hollywood Stuntz - YouTube

(sorry if this has been posted before i didn't have the time to check every single response posted)

[Zedbra]

^ the "extra" videos links have been posted many times. This ride was a different day, I believe.

[thumper]

latest: Biker injured in NYC clash with SUV hires celebrity attorney Gloria Allred - News - MSN CA (http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/biker-injured-in-nyc-clash-with-suv-hires-celebrity-attorney-gloria-allred)

The family issued a statement on Wednesday night asking for privacy and announcing it had hired Allred, a media-savvy Los Angeles lawyer who usually specializes in women rights and sexual harassment cases.

She has represented people in suits against high-profile defendants ranging from Michael Jackson and Arnold Schwarzenegger to former congressman Anthony Weiner and former San Diego mayor Bob Filner.

They also retained a New York lawyer, Mariann Meier Wang. Both lawyers had no comment on whether the family is planning legal action.



a lawyer that specializes in womens rights/sexual harassement?

[SpeedStars]

He got groped by the SUV in the process of helping his friend

[T4RAWR]

latest: Biker injured in NYC clash with SUV hires celebrity attorney Gloria Allred - News - MSN CA (http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/biker-injured-in-nyc-clash-with-suv-hires-celebrity-attorney-gloria-allred)



a lawyer that specializes in womens rights/sexual harassement?

i'm guessing that the family wants to go after Lien in civil court for a pay out?

[fliptuner]

She's probably going to try to get the media on her side by putting all the emphasis on the vid of RR guy "mowing down helpless motorcyclists" while conveniently not providing context or a backstory.

[melloman]

I hope they lose and owe the lawyers BIG $$..

First they lay him out as a saint. Now the truth comes out that he hasn't ever had a license, and he won't be eligible until 2017.

If this case went to trial, and I was Liens lawyer, I'd say "Well if Meezee followed the law and didn't ride a motorcycle without a license.. He wouldn't of been on the highway; thus he wouldn't be paralyzed for his own stupid decisions in life."

[thumper]

i'm guessing that the family wants to go after Lien in civil court for a pay out?

not sure... this is the profile for the second lawyer:

Mariann Meier Wang | Cuti Hecker Wang (http://www.cutiheckerwang.com/mariann-wang.html)

Mariann Meier Wang is an experienced trial lawyer and advocate. Her practice focuses on civil rights litigation, including sexual and racial assaults and harassment, retaliation, childhood sexual abuse, employment and housing discrimination, labor law violations, police misconduct, First Amendment, prisoners' rights, and sexual orientation discrimination, and on commercial litigation, including trademark infringement, contract, and tort disputes

[Redlines_Daily]

I'm guessing a high profile lawyer like that probably contacted them, offered to work for free for further media exposure. The family was begging for donations to raise $2000 for meezy, no way they could afford Allred unless they have some outside donor.

[thumper]

I'm guessing a high profile lawyer like that probably contacted them, offered to work for free for further media exposure. The family was begging for donations to raise $2000 for meezy, no way they could afford Allred unless they have some outside donor.

maybe the lawyers/sharks are smelling blood in the water and are cutting some sort of deal with them because they know lien might be worth a lot of $$$?

Alexian Lien, Road Rage Victim: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | HEAVY (http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/10/alexian-lien-road-rage-viral-video/)

[BoostedBB6]

Bikers hate cagers, cagers hate bikers.

One thing I have learnt from years on a bike is YOU DONT RIDE LIKE AN IDIOT.

That little fender bender in a car can be a broken set of bones and a week in the emerg. Intimidation plaied a factor in this for sure, being boxed in by a large groupe of agressive people I dont blame the guy for trying to get out of there. The result is sad but if I feared for the life of my family and you were the cause of the fear you best pray to god because you have little time left in this world.

[Drow]

His wife is not bad for a milf

[Presto]

I'm guessing a high profile lawyer like that probably contacted them, offered to work for free for further media exposure. The family was begging for donations to raise $2000 for meezy, no way they could afford Allred unless they have some outside donor.

Allred is a media whore leach.

[BEEB]

maybe the lawyers/sharks are smelling blood in the water and are cutting some sort of deal with them because they know lien might be worth a lot of $$$?

Alexian Lien, Road Rage Victim: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | HEAVY (http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/10/alexian-lien-road-rage-viral-video/)

Lawyers for traffic injuries usually get 50% of the payout (according to my knowledge with local Vancouver Lawyers)

[GLOW]

regardless if lien is loaded or not, won't his insurance cover any of the damages, so wouldn't they need to settle this with his insurance company?

[xpl0sive]

^ his insurance will likely deny him coverage due to the "intentional/criminal act exclusion"

[JJN]

I just recently saw this on a new article and posted it the wrong forum(shitty/dangerous) , But. I don't get why people are siding with the gang. They did wrong. And this isn't the first time they've done it. Their a lot of stories about them.

What got me on this story was that. The guy was just simply driving on the highway. Celebrating him wedding anniversary. but also. They beat him up and stabbed him in front of his 2 year old Kid. Seriously. the little girls probably traumatized

[ShanghaiKid]

In russia, brake check means road rash

Russian Biker Tries To Brake-Check A Car, Fails Big Time - YouTube

[GLOW]

I just recently saw this on a new article and posted it the wrong forum(shitty/dangerous) , But. I don't get why people are siding with the gang. They did wrong. And this isn't the first time they've done it. Their a lot of stories about them.


i think partially the media is spinning it, conveniently leaving out info such as the fact this was a hostile mob, and they were trying to force the SUV to come to a stop. I've read many articles where it's "road rage biker vs suv - bikers stop SUV after SUV driver drove through running over several bikers". i've seen sites only showing clips of the video

they make it sound like the bikers were getting revenge for getting hit, nothing about the fact they were terrorizing the family and forcing them to stop.

[dared3vil0]

Oh, the motorcyclist is now paralyzed? Guess he learned the age old "Karma is a bitch" lesson the hard way... Well... The hard and rubbery way. :lawl:

[mb_]

The Jawa Report: Bikers Versus SUV (http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/217012.php)

[meowjinboo]

Instagram (http://instagram.com/p/fBupwmGBr0/)

last night I witnessed a truck lead a procession of bikers down 17th in calgary who were holding up traffic, revving their bikes for no apparent reason and constantly honking their horns.

Quite possibly the most infuriating thing ever since they literally held back traffic 6 blocks.

[dangonay]

Someone should set up a legal fund for Lien. Not that he needs the money, but because it's going to cost him a lot of $$$ to go up against these "heavyweight lawyers" who obviously have some ulterior motives.

It would be hilarious to see a shit load of money end up in this "fund" so Lien could counter these lawyers with his own "dream team" of lawyers. I wonder how they'd feel seeing the support of countless people sending money, which will directly cost them money (I'm betting they expect Lien to quickly settle simply based on their "reputation" and aren't expecting a long, drawn-out court fight).
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[Ferra]

Someone should set up a legal fund for Lien. Not that he needs the money, but because it's going to cost him a lot of $$$ to go up against these "heavyweight lawyers" who obviously have some ulterior motives.
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People should set up a crowd funding project to buy the rest of the video recording on what what happened that day..

The original video left out the earlier and later footage on purpose, probably to prevent them from incriminating themselves..
But there were like 100+ bikers...i bet there were at least a few other dash-cam in the group and some of them will show what really happened during the whole thing...

The bikers who have video probably don't want to show it coz it would incriminate the others, but for $10-20K I am sure they will sell it in a heartbeat...

oh..and we will get to see it on youtube :woot2:

[Manic!]

People should set up a crowd funding project to buy the rest of the video recording on what what happened that day..

The original video left out the earlier and later footage on purpose, probably to prevent them from incriminating themselves..
But there were like 100+ bikers...i bet there were at least a few other dash-cam in the group and some of them will show what really happened during the whole thing...

The bikers who have video probably don't want to show it coz it would incriminate the others, but for $10-20K I am sure they will sell it in a heartbeat...

oh..and we will get to see it on youtube :woot2:

The video is evidence in a crime. the police will find it and seize the video if it's still out there.

[GLOW]

His wife is not bad for a milf

if lien was stopped in a remote area of the highway vs the city with bystanders, imagine what could/would have happened to her by all those thugs.

[Ferra]

The video is evidence in a crime. the police will find it and seize the video if it's still out there.
and you suppose those people who have video of the incident will just go and tell the police and everyone about it so they can come seize it?

[Manic!]

and you suppose those people who have video of the incident will just go and tell the police and everyone about it so they can come seize it?

No they will find out who shot the original video and ask for the unedited version. If he says no, they will get a search warrant.

[Redlines_Daily]

Police have now located the motorcyclicst who shot the video and seized the original. Source: CNN.com

[GLOW]

http://replygif.net/i/159.gif

[StylinRed]

There was an Undercover Cop in the group of bikers who was off-duty that came out on Wednesday to give details (first i heard about it)

anyone know what details he gave?

[GLOW]

Undercover NYPD cop stood by as bikers beat dad | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2013/10/04/undercover-cop-stood-by-as-bikers-beat-dad/)

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-undercover-cop-was-on-scene-when-bikers-beat-range-rover-driver-officials?lite

Mieses' father, a Pennsylvania pastor, said he felt "no anger" toward anyone, including Lien.
"The driver of the SUV is going to eventually have to face what he did," he said.

[jpark]

omg Allred pisses me off stupid bitch.

[GLOW]

Source: Off-duty officer among bikers who saw SUV driver beaten - CNN.com@@AMEPARAM@@video: 'us/2013/10/04/erin-dnt-candiotti-biker-vs-suv.cnn'@@AMEPARAM@@us/2013/10/04/erin-dnt-candiotti-biker-vs-suv.cnn

Mieses' family says he is the real victim. "All of his ribs are fractured. His lungs are so badly bruised that he's still on a ventilator," Yolanda Santiago, his mother, told CNN affiliate WCBS.
Mieses' wife, Dayana, told CNN affiliate WBZ that he got off his bike to help the SUV driver. She blamed Lien. "He got scared, he peeled off, and he paralyzed my husband on the way," she said.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg

[Soundy]

""He got scared, he peeled off..."

YA FUCKIN' THINK?!?!

"The driver of the SUV is going to eventually have to face what he did."

What he did, was protect his family from an angry mob. /story.

[Gridlock]

Source: Off-duty officer among bikers who saw SUV driver beaten - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/us/bikers-attack-video/index.html?hpt=hp_c2)



http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg

Ha yeah. There you go, he was stopping to help him. Maybe the brake check was a reminder to slow down, for the sake of having his kids in the car with him.

[thumper]

if lien was stopped in a remote area of the highway vs the city with bystanders, imagine what could/would have happened to her by all those thugs.

reading this made me think of the first original mad max movie...

Mad Max (1979) - Theatrical Trailer - YouTube

maybe the "not too distant future" is almost here.

[Noir]

It's hard to see in the original video but I don't get how Mieses got hurt because he was helping an injured friend (which i assume he meant from being struck by the car.)


If he's helping a friend who got injured, doesn't that mean that the car has already passed him. The way it makes sense to me is, he would only get struck by the car if he was one of the riders blocking it.

[i-vtecyo]

^ u have a good point. Maybe what he is trying to say is that he was helping the guy who got into a minor fender bender (only initial injury i can see..) and tries to sugar coat it to get himself out of this mess and strive for false justice.

[v_tec]

Do Range Rovers come with RFT tires standard?

[dangonay]

^ Not sure in the US. If they did then they wouldn't be so easy to slash (stiff sidewalks). And they would still let you drive without coming off the rims.
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[T4RAWR]

Run-over Mass. biker has long criminal record | Boston Herald (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/10/run_over_mass_biker_has_long_criminal_record)

Long history of criminal charges and overall douchebaggery.

[GLOW]

reading this made me think of the first original mad max movie...

Mad Max (1979) - Theatrical Trailer - YouTube (http://youtu.be/CXhD9UvtrZ4)

maybe the "not too distant future" is lmost here.

mad max instantly came to mind when i was watching these videos

[GLOW]

Run-over Mass. biker has long criminal record | Boston Herald (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/10/run_over_mass_biker_has_long_criminal_record)

Long history of criminal charges and overall douchebaggery.

The Lawrence motor$cyclist struck and paralyzed as a desperate SUV driver tried to escape the rage of other bikers in New York on Sunday has a six-page criminal record that began at age 12 with a negligent driving charge and includes jail time for drugs, guns, resisting arrest and other convictions, according to court records.
Edwin Mieses, 32, never got a driver’s license in the Bay State, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said, but he was frequently nabbed behind the wheel, and even sentenced to jail for driving without a license, court records show. Mieses has a pending case out of Lawrence District Court for driving suspended, subsequent offense, said Carrie Kimball Monihan, spokeswoman for the Essex County District Attorney’s Office. Mieses also has 15 guilty findings for criminal offenses including distribution of cocaine, possession of a firearm without a permit, knowingly receiving stolen property, resisting arrest and several motor vehicle violations, court records show.
Mieses was sentenced to jail in 2004 for distribution of cocaine, in 2001 for operating without a license, in 2000 for possession of a firearm, and in 1999 for possession of marijuana, receiving stolen property, destruction of property and attaching plates, according to court records.
Attempts yesterday to reach Mieses’ girlfriend, mother, father and lawyer were unsuccessful.
A Facebook page called “Justice for Jay Meezee” says Mieses was paralyzed after he was run over and remains hospitalized. Mieses has been identified by The Associated Press and other media outlets as the biker who was run over.
The confrontation spiraled from a minor crash between a motorbike and the SUV. A biker’s helmet video showed one biker smashing SUV driver Alexian Lien’s window with his helmet, pulling him out and beating him. Lien’s wife, in the SUV with their child, said yesterday they feared for their lives.
- See more at: Run-over Mass. biker has long criminal record | Boston Herald (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/10/run_over_mass_biker_has_long_criminal_record#sthas h.Gse0Ruim.dpuf)

shows up for interviews to paint him as a saint and victim...news comes out this "aspiring rapper" lead a life of douchebaggery...not available for comment :badpokerface:

[Soundy]

Sounds like a model citizen, right there.
:ilied:

[dangonay]

The more that comes to light the happier I am he got run over. All that bad Karma had to catch up with him sooner or later.
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[T4RAWR]

The more that comes to light the happier I am he got run over. All that bad Karma had to catch up with him sooner or later.
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except now he has scumbag high profile lawyers on his side. i hope they lose big time on whatever bullshit they try to pull.

[wingies]

ROFL this is getting fkin awesome as more and more dirt is being dug up!

Allred is a fuckin cunt, wasnt she trying to help the tranny from van in the beauty pagenat or whtever?

[Drow]

gee whiz sounds like mieses got into this big mess not due to the negligence of the RR driver but because of his own decisions

1. participation in a highly dangerous bike rally which not only endangers him but those around him

2. association with faggots

3. riding illegally

honestly if mieses' family recognized this from the start and accepted the fact that he was the one who got the shitty deal (which was not at the RR driver's hands) then at least the public would sympathize with his family

instead they brewed a shitstorm and not only does mieses gets paralyzed he also gets his dirt digged up and publicly shat on

chitty, chitty deal.

[Gridlock]

More and more this is like thieves injuring themselves while breaking into a house, and then suing the owner.

Gloria Allred is just such a gasbag. Win or lose, I don't think it matters, I think she just likes to see her name in print.

...and of course, a nice little undisclosed settlement to get other people's names OUT of the papers.

I hope this guy tears her apart.

[ImportPsycho]

Too bad RR didnt have dashcam....

Note to myself, get dashcam
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[bing]

Run-over Mass. biker has long criminal record | Boston Herald (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/10/run_over_mass_biker_has_long_criminal_record)

Long history of criminal charges and overall douchebaggery.

Another twist is that his dad (before becoming a pastor) is a convicted dealer as well.


Mr. Mieses has lived out the transformation. As a convicted drug dealer serving a prison sentence in his native Massachusetts, he embraced Pentecostal Christianity nearly 20 years ago precisely for its focus on morality and personal salvation. He ultimately earned a college degree and met his future wife — whom he proudly notes was a virgin until marriage — at Lancaster Bible College in the Amish country of central Pennsylvania.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/08/us/08religion.html

[StylinRed]

lol Reginald Cruz, the guy who brake checked the suv and subsequently stopped, is claiming he had no intention to brake check the suv as that would be stupid since he's in a little 500lb bike and he was turning his head around simply to look for his friend

:lol

[twitchyzero]

Undercover NYPD cop stood by as bikers beat dad | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2013/10/04/undercover-cop-stood-by-as-bikers-beat-dad/)

Undercover cop was on scene when bikers beat Range Rover driver: officials - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20820832-undercover-cop-was-on-scene-when-bikers-beat-range-rover-driver-officials?lite)

perhaps he was pretty deep undercover and didn't wanna give it away?

[StylinRed]

yeah while he was off-duty its said its not known if his on-duty work involves any of that group

but they're questioning why it took him 4 days to even report to his superiors that he was involved

[Manic!]

Meezee rap video

Jay Meezee Biker Injured by Black SUV in NYC Rap Video - YouTube

[Dragon-88]

Just came back today from the 35th Annual Vancouver Motorcycle Toy Run. I went down with my scooter club and met at the meeting point at Coquitlam Center. We had over 1000+ motorcycles, and about 30+ scooters. Our destination was PNE, we had a police escort and all roads blocked all the way there. It was amazing, running all the red lights and cruising with a crazy amount of bikes. No one was being dumb and it went really smooth(except for the poor cagers caught in the parking at Coquitlam center lot and couldn't move while we were all leaving.

Key thing here was that it was organized and well planned, like most cruises should be. The best part was those who were stuck in traffic, just got out of their cars and started taking pictures.

Absolutely the best cruise ever!

Taken from youtube
35th Annual (2013) Vancouver Christmas Motorcycle Toy Run - YouTube

[bing]

lol Reginald Cruz, the guy who brake checked the suv and subsequently stopped, is claiming he had no intention to brake check the suv as that would be stupid since he's in a little 500lb bike and he was turning his head around simply to look for his friend

:lol

You mean Christopher Cruz.

Reginald Chance is alleged to be the one breaking the RR window with his helmet.

[originalhypa]

I went down with my scooter club

Represent Dragon Meezee! Where da videos of da catwalks at, foo?

:D
j/k

Ruckus are f/ken awesome.
I was just thinking that in Canada, dickhead bikers ride Harleys. In New York, the dickhead bikers ride Gixxers. Then you mentioned scooters, and I had a mild stroke.

:lol

[DannyITR]

I've avoided watching the video as this story alone makes me sick.

[Dragon-88]

Represent Dragon Meezee! Where da videos of da catwalks at, foo?

:D
j/k

Ruckus are f/ken awesome.
I was just thinking that in Canada, dickhead bikers ride Harleys. In New York, the dickhead bikers ride Gixxers. Then you mentioned scooters, and I had a mild stroke.

:lol

LOL it was hilarious watching all these big biker guys oogling over the modded ruckus's and taking pictures.

Our club ended up cruising to deep cove to seymour mountain. Then we went to New West and finally ended in Fort Langley. Spent the whole day riding and spent about $10 in gas.

[kunoman1]

I dont think this was posted yet..

This One Man Stopped The Biker Beating Of Range Rover Driver

This One Man Stopped The Biker Beating Of Range Rover Driver (http://jalopnik.com/this-one-man-stopped-the-biker-beating-of-range-rover-d-1442010788)

[thumper]

Christopher Cruz, busted in biker-SUV attack, doesn’t ‘feel responsible’


Read more: Christopher Cruz, busted in biker-SUV attack, doesn?t ?feel responsible? - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/biker-sparked-suv-attack-doesn-feel-responsible-article-1.1478475#ixzz2h68wwtDm)

[thumper]

Reginald Chance, Biker Arrested In SUV Assault, Has Long History Of Arrests; Flips Off Reporters In Court (PHOTO) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/07/reginald-chance_n_4058581.html?ir=New+York)

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1393571/thumbs/o-REGINALD-CHANCE-570.jpg?6

^ translation: "i over reacted" :squint:

[mb_]

oops double post :concentrate:

[mb_]

Christopher Cruz, busted in biker-SUV attack, doesn’t ‘feel responsible’


Read more: Christopher Cruz, busted in biker-SUV attack, doesn?t ?feel responsible?$ - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/biker-sparked-suv-attack-doesn-feel-responsible-article-1.1478475#ixzz2h68wwtDm)

what a fucking clown this guy is

[kunoman1]

Reginald Chance, Biker Arrested In SUV Assault, Has Long History Of Arrests; Flips Off Reporters In Court (PHOTO) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/07/reginald-chance_n_4058581.html?ir=New+York)

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1393571/thumbs/o-REGINALD-CHANCE-570.jpg?6


Looks like a real class act

[Soundy]

I dont think this was posted yet..

This One Man Stopped The Biker Beating Of Range Rover Driver

This One Man Stopped The Biker Beating Of Range Rover Driver (http://jalopnik.com/this-one-man-stopped-the-biker-beating-of-range-rover-d-1442010788)

"...Consuegra explains that while he stood between Alexian and the riders there was one moment when it wasn't clear that the situation was over, when they shouted that Aleixan had run over one of their own, when more riders were arriving. But Consuegra locked eyes with one of the bikers and brought the beating to a halt."

Just goes to show how one guy with "right" on his side can put down a mob without lifting a finger. Also shows what pussies these guys were once the mob mentality was broken.

[wingies]

another vid of the bikers attacking another car

http://news.yahoo.com/video/video-surfaces-bikers-attacking-another-131013149.html

[LiquidTurbo]

What's the condition of the Driver.. is he gonna make it?