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Nootropic Stacks/Cognitive health Thread
BrRsn
10-13-2013, 12:39 PM
Anyone running any nootropic stacks at the moment?
I've used AlphaBrain before and results were decent -- had tons of motivation/focus and I felt mentally very sharp. I want to try and make my own stack of nootropics .... anyone got a place/suggestion for me to start? I've researched the topic on my own and have found conflicting information depending on what I read.
I'm hoping this can become a sort of collection of information for anyone interested/wanting to take nootropics. Maybe we can post up suggested stacks, dosages, links to buy stuff online.
Here's a quick template if anyone has any information to share, please copy and paste this into your response so it can be somewhat structured:
Age:
Profession:
Stack:
Dosage/Timing:
Links for purchasing:
Additional thoughts/comments:
Age: 22
Profession: Full time student/work part-time
Stack: I've taken Alphabrain for ~3 months straight, more recently I've tried a Piracetam + choline stack (although I felt a difference, nowhere near as good as AlphaBrain). I'm combining it with a multivitamin and fish oil caps.
Dosage/Timing: Usually take 1600 mg Piracetam, 400mg Choline with lunch
Links for purchasing: I got both off amazon.com, but it seems they've discontinued it. Here's a newer version of piracetam I'm looking at try, supposedly more potent because it has a phenyl group attached and therefore makes it more bioavailable.
Amazon.com: Phenylpiracetam (Carphedon) - 5 Grams (0.18 Oz) - 99% Pure - FBLM: Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2H43HG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A26Z0DXF1CRJ1G)
Choline supp I take (400mg so I can follow the 4:1 ratio of choline to piracetam)
Amazon.com: Carlson Labs Phosphatidyl Choline, 400mg, 100 Softgels: Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.com/Carlson-Phosphatidyl-Choline-400mg-Softgels/dp/B003BVIVX8/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1381696294&sr=1-2&keywords=choline+capsules+400mg)
Additional thoughts/comments:
N/a -- Although I did feel Alpha Brain worked, it was expensive as hell and its price was far beyond the collective price of all its components. I feel as if i can make a better nootropic stack for less (basically what I'm trying to do now). I took a break from nootropics in the summer while I was working full time and I honestly felt slower; my vocabulary greatly decreased; memory was terrible; and I felt irritable/low energy all the time.
Useful Links/Posts: (To be updated semi-periodically)
None yet .. really hoping someone far more knowledgeable on the topic, cough Skinnypupp, will chime in. I will keep this updated as I figure out what I want my next stack to be.
guddagudd
10-13-2013, 08:06 PM
questions:
Did Alphabrain's effects linger after you stopped consuming it?
Follow-up of Q1, if Alphabrain's effects deteriorated after you stop taking it, do you actually feel a loss of mental cognition?
Also, did you ever blaze while on Alphabrain? How was that? (srs)
BrRsn
10-13-2013, 08:45 PM
questions:
Did Alphabrain's effects linger after you stopped consuming it?
Follow-up of Q1, if Alphabrain's effects deteriorated after you stop taking it, do you actually feel a loss of mental cognition?
Also, did you ever blaze while on Alphabrain? How was that? (srs)
To be honest, I'm not sure. I stopped taking it abruptly after my last exam, and at the same time I had some family issues come up -- so my mind was completely elsewhere.
I didn't feel any dumber when I didn't have nootropics, I still had the same processing power but the way I felt throughout the day varied more. The best way to describe it is by comparing it to the feeling you get after a good night's sleep and a cup of coffee. Those 3-5 hours after you wake up are amazing for me -- my mental alertness is through the roof for that time period -- being on nootropics allows me to lengthen that time and increase my productivity through the day.
I was taking that semester pretty seriously, but I still blazed. I limited myself to a week before/a week after big exams. More paranoia than anything, but I did feel more lethargic on days following a blazing session. I know people say nootropics = lucid dreaming, and although I did have some pretty amazing/highly detailed dreams, it didn't really change how I reacted to other drugs (i.e. weed/alcohol).
Are you thinking of trying AlphaBrain? I'm not sure if I can recommend it -- I had to take it for a week or two to notice any effects, and although the effects were good I don't think the cost is justified -- you're mostly paying for branding. That's why I made this thread ... I'm hoping someone will chime in and shed some light on starting a nootropic stack
guddagudd
10-13-2013, 09:27 PM
I was just going off of the information you provided, I asked about Alphabrain because it seems that had the most effect on you. But I am also very interested in the phenylpiracetam and choline stack. Do nootropics have any side effects? Thinking of ordering those two things, but I can't seem to find shipping for Canada. :okay:
BrRsn
10-13-2013, 09:29 PM
I was just going off of the information you provided, I asked about Alphabrain because it seems that had the most effect on you. But I am also very interested in the phenylpiracetam and choline stack. Do nootropics have any side effects? Thinking of ordering those two things, but I can't seem to find shipping for Canada. :okay:
I've had to order off amazon.com in most cases or ebay.com and shipped to point roberts.
I wouldn't buy anything based solely off what I've posted -- I'm fairly new to this. I've opened up this thread in hopes of more experienced/knowledgeable people sharing what they know.
As far as side effects are concerned, I cannot definitively say. Everything in moderation IMO
SkinnyPupp
10-13-2013, 09:38 PM
I have tried lots of nootropics.
Right now I am really liking Noopept, with some choline. It has a good combination of motivation, anti anxiety, without being too stimulating.
Oxiracetam is very stimulating, it's a great PWO
Aniracetam is a great anxiolytic and is mellowing. It's the nootropic I have used the most by far.
If you have anxiety or nervousness.. the kind that keeps you up at night, etc, nothing beats phenibut. Careful though, as it can be physically addictive. The theraputic dose (500-750mg) is low enough to not cause issues, but if you take a lot (2-4g, which makes you feel really nice, like alcohol without the drunkenness) it can quickly be tough to kick.
I order everything from Smartpowders
If you need to stay up late studying, modafinil is a godsend. It's prescription though, so you are going to have to order from a less-than-legal method unless you can get a scrip. There are good sources though, check reddit/r/nootropics for reviews.
Huperzine-A is one people take to increase acetylcholine, instead of taking a form like alpha GPC or choline bitartrate. It is a choline esterase inhibitor, which means it stops it from being broken down in the brain. I find that it is way too easy to get overloaded with it though
Galantamine works in a similar way, but I find that it doesn't do much. People rave about it for helping dreams though, but it can keep you up at night (as any nootropic can)
Sulbutiamine gets talked about as a nootropic, but I find that it does jack shit. It's basically a super absorbable version of vitamin B1. Maybe if you are lacking B1, it is good
Alpha Brain is way overpriced, and I don't know about the current formula, but the old one would REALLY overload your brain with acetylcholine, which can cause major issues. Most common one is major dizziness/nausea
BrRsn
10-13-2013, 09:50 PM
^ thanks for the post dude.
What kind of dosages are you taking? Taking it every day?
I actually bought some phenibut recently from biovea.com (Ships to canada) -- Mixing 500 mg with 200 mg caffeine = amazing relaxed state of mind, with tons of energy/focus.
I've heard the phenibut hangover is hell though, and your body will adapt to it really quick and it'll stop having an effect so recommended dosage is under 2x a week, with atleast a day or two in between.
SkinnyPupp
10-13-2013, 09:58 PM
Noopept 30mg in the morning before work, with my morning coffee. Really helps me get going
When I have lunch, I take some choline and fish oil. Lunch is usually high fat/no carbs which helps me think more clearly as well.
I take 500-750mh phenibut every night at about 8pm. I have tried doses up to 2g or so.. It feels really good, and there is a hangover but it's not THAT bad. Not as bad as alcohol that's for sure! You just feel kind of.. off.. Almost a bit buzzed, but nothing psychoactive like weed
If you use it like that ("recreationally") then yeah, no more than 2x a week. If you use it like a normal therapeutic drug, I think it's fine to take all the time. It will continue to be effective in keeping anxiety and stress at bay, allowing you to relax and get a good night's sleep. If you can take 2 nights off in a row without having troubles sleeping, you're fine.
I also take magnesium at night, and sometimes melatonin which seems to make sleep more effective (ie 6 hours of sleep on melatonin is as effective in recovery as 7 hours of normal sleep)
i've only ever used plain piracetam and choline citrate. i can say the effects were good and i took it usually for studying/going to the gym/exams. doing any kind of drugs/drinking alcohol on nootropics amplifies the effects from my experience. using it in a preworkout stack also makes you focus a lot better and lessened my rest times for sets.
can't remember the exact dosage but i usually did 3 scoops of piracetam (1200mg?) to 1.5 scoops of choline citrate (600mg?). i adjusted the dosage a few times but found this one to be the best.
SkinnyPupp
10-13-2013, 10:39 PM
I can't stress enough how good it is to use a nootropic as a PWO. It might not be as good as the ones that contain amphetamines, but it's the next best (legal) think. The mind/muscle connection is so important
guddagudd
10-13-2013, 11:06 PM
all I'm hearing is good thing from these nootropics. Which one is the best, for your mind that is?
guddagudd
10-13-2013, 11:07 PM
Should I just get some Noopept and win life?
DragonChi
10-14-2013, 07:54 AM
I've been trying to figure out how to get modafinil for a few years now. Best I could get from my doc was wellbutrin.
Wellbutrin feels like a high does of caffeine to be honest. Sort of like Adderall but less jittery.
SkinnyPupp
10-14-2013, 04:18 PM
Why not just buy it online?
dealt
10-22-2013, 10:12 PM
Informative article on Noopept: The complete NOOPEPT thread: how it works, what it is, and ADMINISTRATION/DOSING. (http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-lounge-off-topic-discussion/524666-complete-noopept-thread-how-works-what-administration-dosing.html)
Tried Alphabrain a while back for 3 months, didn't feel any difference at all. MAYBE, I remembered my dreams a bit more, but that's about it.
DragonChi
10-23-2013, 08:26 PM
Why not just buy it online?
You can get it online?!
Isn't that kind of a gamble. How do I know I'm getting the real deal?
SkinnyPupp
10-23-2013, 08:32 PM
You can get it online?!
Isn't that kind of a gamble. How do I know I'm getting the real deal?
Like I said in my long post, there are a lot of reviews at reddit.com/r/nootropics. Do a search for modafinil and you'll see. The store owners hang out there and sometimes offer deals to members of the sub
SkinnyPupp
10-23-2013, 08:33 PM
BTW I am having really good dream recollection, and very long vivid dreams lately, using NOW Magnesium/Potassium with Taurine (http://www.nowfoods.com/Magnesium-and-Potassium-Aspartate-with-Taurine-120-Veg-Capsules.htm). Cheap way to help your dreams, plus these minerals are really good for you.
BrRsn
10-23-2013, 08:46 PM
Phenibut has been so-so for me ...
I've been taking it to help me relax the night before an exam and get some sleep -- but I can't seem to get the dosage right. 750 mg seems to make me less nervous, but does nothing to make me sleepy
perhaps stacking w/ melatonin?
SkinnyPupp
10-23-2013, 08:50 PM
Yeah stack it. It won't make you sleepy per se. If you are up due to anxiety, then it gets rid of the anxiety which in turn helps you go to sleep. But if you need help actually falling asleep, add 1.5mg of melatonin. I find sublingual does the best job
750mg should be plenty, especially if you haven't been taking it long. It does take a while to kick in (around 2 hours IMO), but lasts a long time.
dealt
10-24-2013, 10:21 PM
BTW I am having really good dream recollection, and very long vivid dreams lately, using NOW Magnesium/Potassium with Taurine (http://www.nowfoods.com/Magnesium-and-Potassium-Aspartate-with-Taurine-120-Veg-Capsules.htm). Cheap way to help your dreams, plus these minerals are really good for you.
I've been having extremely vivid lucid dreams on noopept + zinc before bed.
Skinny, do you recommend choline w/ noopept?
SkinnyPupp
10-24-2013, 10:29 PM
If you start to get issues with mental fog, you will want to consider it
pinn3r
10-24-2013, 10:41 PM
been using AlphaBrain for nearly 2 weeks now. hella expensive, but i'm just trying it out so i can hit the gym after a long day at work
i find that i speak more eloquently on days that i DO take it
i only have it once a day though, and i've had a couple days where i haven't taken it at all
not sure if placebo effect or actually working
BrRsn
10-26-2013, 11:03 PM
^ This -- I've always been able to write in an formal manner, but as soon as I'm faced with a social situation in which I'm forced to do so without the delay typing on a computer gives you, I go full retard.
I also ordered some L-theanine to see how it affects my studying.
I've read in doses of ~250-300mg with 200mg caffeine it can be quite effective, will report back :)
SkinnyPupp
10-26-2013, 11:53 PM
Oh yeah L-Theanine is another great one, especially combined with coffee. I usually stick a 1/4 tsp scoop of powder under my tongue and let it dissolve. It kind of has a sweet/bitter taste, I like it. I find that it takes the edge off the caffeine while at the same time not making you drowsy.
strykn
10-29-2013, 10:36 AM
my 100 pills of Modafinil r on the way m8 :-D
Ulic Qel-Droma
10-29-2013, 11:39 AM
If you need to stay up late studying, modafinil is a godsend. It's prescription though, so you are going to have to order from a less-than-legal method unless you can get a scrip. There are good sources though, check reddit/r/nootropics for reviews.
this is something i'd wanna get my hands on. hmmm....
guddagudd
11-13-2013, 07:34 PM
been reading up on racetams and I finally decided to try piracetam as my first nootropic. But the fucked up thing as soon as I narrowed it down to Piracetam, and begin to read up on it even more, I see a bunch of threads with people complaining about Piracetam. So what is the best (in this case, I mean most widely beneficial) racetam that I should try? I also read that choline causes depressive symptoms, but all the threads recommend supplementing nootropics with choline.
I think what I am going to do is order Piracetam and supplement it with eggs and fish oil. Not a choline product directly. Tips?
BrRsn
01-25-2014, 10:31 AM
Welp .. New stack I've been trying
~half hour before studying I take:
150 mg phenylpiracetam (Sublingually as skinny described)
Large coffee - black
Right after I wake up I take:
3 choline bitartrate pills
3 fish oil
3 multivitamin
50mg zinc (avoided the flu since september! Fuck yea)
The big change was me was learning to take the racetams sublingually rather than mixing with green tea/drinking. Sublingual tastes like shit, but if you can hold it under your tongue for ~5 mins its affects are much more predictable + stronger.
Couldn't get my hands on modafinil, ordered some adrafinil instead (modafinil + methyl group -- will break down in liver into free modafinil). Right now adrafinil is unregulated (legal) in both Canada and the USA -- be careful with how much/how often you use it as it can cause elevated liver enzyme levels
SkinnyPupp
01-25-2014, 05:59 PM
Be sure to share your experiences with adrafinil!
BrRsn
01-25-2014, 06:45 PM
^ will do.
It was significantly cheaper in the powder form so that's what I ordered. I don't feel like spending $50 on a scale that's sensitive to the milligram -- so I'll keep guestimating with the little 0.15cc scoop they give you.
The place I ordered from is called nootropicsdepot and they have several review threads on reddit, as well as a few of the owners of the company active on reddit as well. They are located and ship from the USA, and you can pay with paypal so even if they dick you around you can get your money back.
NootropicsDepot.com (http://www.nootropicsdepot.com)
discount code: 'reddits' / 'reddit' for 10% off
Also ordered some caffeine and noopept.
SkinnyPupp
01-25-2014, 07:10 PM
I don't like the idea of anxiety as a side effect, which modafinil doesn't have
strykn
01-25-2014, 09:41 PM
I've been doing 200mg of Modalert every monday-friday for the past 2 months , love it :)
only side for me is at around 2PM ( i take it at 6AM) i'll get extreemelly tired/ drowsy and will need a 20 min power nap and i'll feel like a million again
SkinnyPupp
01-25-2014, 09:47 PM
I've been doing 200mg of Modalert every monday-friday for the past 2 months , love it :)
only side for me is at around 2PM ( i take it at 6AM) i'll get extreemelly tired/ drowsy and will need a 20 min power nap and i'll feel like a million again
Does it help with your motivation or anything like that? Or just basic alertness?
strykn
01-25-2014, 10:30 PM
Does it help with your motivation or anything like that? Or just basic alertness?
I use it primarily for my trading , staring at quotes for 6hrs straight... just dials me right in with quick decision making + reactions! Also makes me more social later in the day
BrRsn
01-27-2014, 05:41 AM
oh hai strykn, brb raiding your house for modafinil
Sidenote,
loving phenylpiracetam -- slept 4 hours last night and still feel awesome
SkinnyPupp
01-27-2014, 06:18 AM
N-Acetyl-Tyrosine is also good if you didn't get enough sleep the night before
strykn
01-27-2014, 02:56 PM
oh hai strykn, brb raiding your house for modafinil
Sidenote,
loving phenylpiracetam -- slept 4 hours last night and still feel awesome
Let me try this wizardry
BrRsn
02-06-2014, 08:14 PM
For anyone interested,
my order of adrafinil from nootropicsdepot cleared customs :fullofwin:
now I wonder how well it works
For anyone interested,
my order of adrafinil from nootropicsdepot cleared customs :fullofwin:
now I wonder how well it works
Any updates?
dasani604
02-12-2014, 09:34 AM
Has anyone tried truBrain?
BrRsn
02-12-2014, 10:50 AM
Any updates?
Sorry It's been sitting on my desk for a week, haven't had a chance to try because .. well .. I haven't had a day where I had to do anything for about a week :fullofwin:
here's a crappy photo of how it came to me:
http://i.imgur.com/dDy7ZX4.jpg
packaging doesn't insight any confidence in the product lol, but judging from other people's reviews the reaction to it are hit and miss depending on how sensitive you are to it (your body has to metabolize it for it to become active). I'd imagine the amount of liver enzymes you have has something to do with how readily you break down the adrafinil into modafinil -- this might be a thing where the casual drinker has a better response to it; or I may be stretching my broscience too far
SkinnyPupp
02-12-2014, 05:35 PM
I wouldn't worry about the packaging; that is totally irrelevant to the product quality.
SkinnyPupp
02-17-2014, 11:22 PM
After struggling through another ADHDriffic week, I decided to order some from modup.net with bitcoin (33% discount!) so we'll see how it goes
After struggling through another ADHDriffic week, I decided to order some from modup.net with bitcoin (33% discount!) so we'll see how it goes
I'm going through the modup reddit page and their CS is definitely top notch. They resent a whole bunch of orders last week with DOUBLE the amount because of a shipping/processing delay. Wow
SkinnyPupp
02-18-2014, 01:13 AM
Yeah that's what helped convince me to go with them... If something goes wrong, I am pretty sure they'll cover me
strykn
02-18-2014, 10:37 PM
i wouldn't order modup, they send provigil and it is much weaker then Sunpharm. modalert.
I've ordered from med-pacific.net once ( best price) ... first package seized ( took like 29 days lol..) they resent for free, received the second (luckily) in about 2.5 weeks.
SkinnyPupp
02-18-2014, 10:45 PM
it is much weaker then Sunpharm. modalert.
Citation needed ;)
strykn
02-19-2014, 01:00 PM
Citation needed ;)
Well i have both provigil and modalert right now and the Modalert is more potent... just personal experience.
SkinnyPupp
02-19-2014, 03:32 PM
Well i have both provigil and modalert right now and the Modalert is more potent... just personal experience.
Interesting. The only way there should be a difference is if one is a scam, and doesn't include the amount of active ingredient they say there is. I looked for feedback, and it's been positive for all brands that aren't scams
Unless you're saying modvigil is a scam, I have to assume it's just a placebo effect you're noticing
I tend to agree with Skinnypupp on this one. Modup had a huge following on Reddit compared to meds4bitcoon. I'd think that people would speak out if Provigil was an inferior product to modalert?
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strykn
02-19-2014, 08:06 PM
maybe placebo maybe bad batch who knows lol.. my modivigil is from ModUp
Use coupon code "Limitless" on modup for a free 10 pack
Any updates on your order Skinnypupp? Saw your Reddit post regarding your payment
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SkinnyPupp
02-28-2014, 12:34 AM
Yeah they sent a tracking # yesterday so it should be here next week some time.
Kind of shitty that they ignore your emails, but responding on reddit is better than nothing I guess
Seems like most people find that posting on Reddit gets a quicker response. Probably has to do with having so much exposure.
Let us know how it goes when it arrives.
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tarobbt
02-28-2014, 10:15 PM
Never realized there are so many druggies on RS :whistle:
Couple of quick questions, is noopept worth it? Do you need to take anything else with it to soften or increase the effects of the drug?
I have tried ritalin in the past and I am currently on strattera right now, but apparently this shit might cause major liver damage but not enough studies have been made yet.
pinn3r
03-01-2014, 01:51 PM
Never realized there are so many druggies on RS :whistle:
Couple of quick questions, is noopept worth it? Do you need to take anything else with it to soften or increase the effects of the drug?
I have tried ritalin in the past and I am currently on strattera right now, but apparently this shit might cause major liver damage but not enough studies have been made yet.
I haven't used it myself, but Noopept is purportedly 1,000x stronger than Piracetam
I've read somewhere that a good amount of it is broken down by hepatic metabolism when taken orally; however, it retains its potency due to it being so strong
Sublingual administration potentiates the effects as it doesn't get broken down, so a lower dose should be fine
I've heard about downing it with alcohol as well, but I know nothing about that
SkinnyPupp
03-01-2014, 06:30 PM
I used 2 bottles of Noopept. I really liked it at first, but then my first use corresponded with some really good news in life, so it may have been a coincidence. By the time I was through the 2nd bottle, it didn't feel like it was doing much if anything.
I have a few pills left, so maybe I'll try sublingual.. I'll try 10mg right now
Woo this is bitter
SkinnyPupp
03-08-2014, 04:36 PM
"your order was held by Indian customs before it could be exported, so we have reshipped your package" :fuckthatshit:
BrRsn
03-08-2014, 04:58 PM
For anyone wanting a nootropic that gives almost that 'high' feeling, I would definitely recommend phenyl-piracetam over noopept after what I've tried
Same idea, phenyl-piracetam is supposed to be more bioavailable too than regular piracetam.
SkinnyPupp
03-08-2014, 05:19 PM
The only noot I've tried that comes close to getting 'high' is phenibut
Speaking of which, I am tapering down on it now, going to take a break for a while
"your order was held by Indian customs before it could be exported, so we have reshipped your package" :fuckthatshit:
When did you place your order?
SkinnyPupp
03-08-2014, 07:47 PM
Feb 18 originally
There's a list being compiled (http://www.reddit.com/r/afinil/comments/1zoihz/various_providers_delivery_timelines/) of when people are receving their orders, and the only ones getting theirs are modup.net customers, mostly from Feb 15 and earlier. It looks like a whole batch of shipments were prevented from leaving the country.
pinn3r
03-11-2014, 12:56 AM
received my Noopept from Liftmode.com today... it's all clumpy and shit :fuuuuu:
SkinnyPupp
03-14-2014, 06:03 AM
Picking up my moda tomorrow at the post office.. will probably go in the morning so I can try my first dose
Greetings, gentlemen.
I've been pondering the use of these for quite some time now (particularly modafinil), but I'm not really sure where to start.
I'm 24, work 7am-3pm Mon-Fri, exercise everyday, don't drink much, eat healthy most of the time. As of recent, I've gone back on the cigarettes after some personal issues to de-stress, but I'm working to get back off them.
I've been considering the use of these drugs because of my inability to perform under stress and anxiety. I don't make rash decisions or anything when I'm under stress, I just can't focus on anything, including my workouts. I've got a few different projects going on outside of my day job, and I've been working on them at a much, much, slower pace than I know I'm capable of.
Would modafinil be a good place to start?
Thanks
SkinnyPupp
03-19-2014, 08:31 PM
So I'm on day 3 of modvigil, and I think I can offer some feedback on it now.
First: If you are looking for something to stimulate you and 'put you to work' like adderall, forget it. This is not that.
HOWEVER if you are looking something to make you "gogogo" all day long, it is absolutely it.
Day 1 I didn't think it did much. I took it at around 2:00pm and felt pretty much normal. However, I had trouble falling asleep despite being very tired and drowsy.
Day 2 I didn't get much sleep the night before, so I thought it would be the perfect test case. It didn't really "wake me up" - I still felt the effects of lack of sleep. HOWEVER what it did do was turn me on all day - not a single moment did I feel like I needed to find something to do. Not that it made me do anything in particular, but what I WAS doing, I was doing intently. It's sort of hard to explain...
Day 3 I took it this morning, and just finished doing a couple writeups and a lot of research for a project I am working on. Again I don't exactly feel non-drowsy, as my sleep hasn't been the best. But I definitely feel like I can address anything that comes to mind. Does it make me want to do nothing but work like crazy until the task is finished? Not really.. I still bounce back and forth between things. But when I am doing those things, it's just really on point.
Tomorrow I'll knock the dosage down to 100mg and see how it goes. I have 3 packs and will probably take a break between each pack.
I have a feeling this will stack really well with a racetam of some sort...
received my Noopept from Liftmode.com today... it's all clumpy and shit :fuuuuu:
How are you doing with the noopept so far? I read that people would get suicidal thoughts while taking it :heckno:
pinn3r
03-23-2014, 01:54 AM
How are you doing with the noopept so far? I read that people would get suicidal thoughts while taking it :heckno:
can't really say that it's anything special. i take 10-30mg (i don't measure) once per day, 3-4 days per week
i have speech impediments; sometimes i'd stutter and the word won't roll off my tongue. Could just be psychosomatic, but it feels like my speech has become a little more eloquent and i've been able to articulate
even if it was just a placebo, it's still working :fuckthatshit:
effects vary from person to person; i certainly do not have suicidal thoughts :heckno:
Time to see what this modvigil is all about
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SkinnyPupp
03-24-2014, 05:14 PM
200mg minimum... 100mg is no different than taking nothing, IMO
Ulic Qel-Droma
03-25-2014, 01:47 PM
First: If you are looking for something to stimulate you and 'put you to work' like adderall, forget it. This is not that.
HOWEVER if you are looking something to make you "gogogo" all day long, it is absolutely it.
can you elaborate/differentiate these two points a little more in depth.
i woulda thought adderall is gogogo.
SkinnyPupp
03-25-2014, 04:43 PM
can you elaborate/differentiate these two points a little more in depth.
i woulda thought adderall is gogogo.
Adderall is more like GOGOGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~!~!~!!!!!! and stay on one task infinitely
This is more like.. it just keeps you going... hard to explain really. The effect isn't that strong, and if it wasn't for the effect on sleep I might think it was just a placebo.
BrRsn
03-25-2014, 06:03 PM
So.. a little update.
Adrafinil sucks. Makes your urine smell rank and overall I don't get much of an effect from it. It's unpredictable, and when it does work you find the effect hitting you much later than you need it, preventing you from sleeping.
New stack for studying?
~400 mg Theanine + 200 mg caffeine -- Love it. Intense focus, completely zone out everything else.
SkinnyPupp
03-25-2014, 06:34 PM
Yup theanine + caffeine is my go-to stack, in about that same amount. Goes great with 200mg modafinil I gotta say :awwyeah:
Where do you guys purchase your Theanine? Wanna try that stacked with modafinil
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SkinnyPupp
03-25-2014, 06:41 PM
I buy just about everything at smartpowders. They are kind of a bunch of goofballs and screw up a lot, but they always make it right in the end. Because of this and that they have everything I want, and ship to HK cheap, I keep going back
Does it matter which brand it is? I see NOW Foods, Jarrow and powders.
Amazon sells the 200mg version of NOW Foods so I'm just thinking of picking that up for quick delivery.
Have you guys noticed any side effects from using it?
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SkinnyPupp
03-25-2014, 06:50 PM
No, theanine is cheap it will all be g2g
Hmmm...Amazon reviews said the newer batches of NOW Foods theanine no longer contain suntheanine so its not 100% pure anymore :(
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BrRsn
03-25-2014, 07:03 PM
I have the liftmode theanine off amazon.com
great stuff, still got ~85% left, using it since ~october?
http://www.amazon.com/L-Theanine-Grams-1-76-Pure-FBA/dp/B0093UHQPA
$14, pick up some cheap caffeine tabs locally (X-fuel on boundary next to BJ BMW was the cheapest locally, but you can just add it on from amazon.com for a similar price)
strykn
03-25-2014, 07:22 PM
Skinny have u stacked with around 200mg of caffeine yet? The stimulating effect is pretty profound, almost like a weak amphetamine.
strykn
03-25-2014, 07:23 PM
can you elaborate/differentiate these two points a little more in depth.
i woulda thought adderall is gogogo.
lol hit me up i'll let you try some ;)
SkinnyPupp
03-25-2014, 07:30 PM
Skinny have u stacked with around 200mg of caffeine yet? The stimulating effect is pretty profound, almost like a weak amphetamine.
Always do! Love it
so i stacked modafinil with caffeine the other day and I started breaking out in hives. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it, but I honestly can't think of anything else.
strykn
05-07-2014, 09:17 PM
Gonna be trying Modafinil +Aniracetam + ALpha GPC stack
Whats a good nootropic for memory? Mother asked me to help her get something.
Thanks
SkinnyPupp
05-16-2014, 09:46 PM
IMO all old people should be taking aniracetam + choline + phosphatidyl choline
multicartual
05-23-2014, 02:07 AM
What should I take if I want to write more and sell more porn?
I blaze my mind away and go ride the seawall and end up on a patio eating nachos before having sex. I don't get fucking anything done, even quitting Facebook has only made me work like 2-3 hours a day tops now as opposed to 1-2
IMO all old people should be taking aniracetam + choline + phosphatidyl choline
Where can I buy that stack? Have you personally tried this stack?
Any side fx?
Thanks
SkinnyPupp
05-30-2014, 11:05 PM
Where can I buy that stack? Have you personally tried this stack?
Any side fx?
Thanks
You'd probably need to order aniracetam online.
Been on noopept for a few days. My god, is this stuff amazing. It's like your brain is functioning in overdrive, as opposed to Piracetam, which is more like, your thinking becomes more clear and methodical.
Might try stacking both sometime, but I'm trying to only use my nootropics when needed ;)
BrRsn
06-21-2014, 02:58 PM
^ How are you taking the noopept? Under the tongue?
Yeah. It's probably the absolute worst tasting nootropic I've ever had. But I just have a tic tac or a jolly rancher or something to ease my tongue.
BrRsn
06-21-2014, 03:07 PM
^ yeah, I was gonna say sublingual is the way to go. I usually don't even get an effect if I eat it -- which is another reason why I think buying nootropic stacks (premade ones i.e. alpha brain) is a bit of a waste
^Yeah, I read somewhere that if you take it orally, you end up only absorbing ~10%. Not sure if it's true or not, but just the possibility is enough reason for me to just throw it under the tongue.
SkinnyPupp
06-21-2014, 06:09 PM
Huh I didn't like noopept, but I was taking caps.. Might try it sublingually, I think I still have a few left.
Worst tasting noot is phenibut btw. It's like eating acid
Noopept feels more potent than piracetam, but like in a sharp way, if that makes sense. Piracetam helps me focus when writing, reading, trying to learn something, etc. But on noopept, I feel like I always need to be doing something. Today I pretty much detailed my whole house, worked out, showered, read a short novel, and changed my spark plugs, all with no breaks in between. It was amazing. Got a bit tired when the effect tapered off, but it wasn't like a crash or anything. Had a cup of coffee and I was good to go for my dinner party.
Some people stack both piracetam and noopept with choline. I'll probably try that sometime soon, but I wanna explore the effects of noopept some more. I'm loving every minute of it.
Ulic Qel-Droma
06-27-2014, 01:50 PM
i must ask, do you guys have any pragmatic results?
like if you statistically recorded all your activities... are you guys doing more things? completing more projects? starting more projects?
or is it just a feeling?
i must ask, do you guys have any pragmatic results?
like if you statistically recorded all your activities... are you guys doing more things? completing more projects? starting more projects?
or is it just a feeling?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cYmorYKIvJs/UPoTl502V0I/AAAAAAAAAEU/b568BqZ_t98/s1600/why-cant-i-hold-all-these-feels.png
i must ask, do you guys have any pragmatic results?
like if you statistically recorded all your activities... are you guys doing more things? completing more projects? starting more projects?
or is it just a feeling?
I'd say all of the above.
I've been keeping a personal daily blog since before I started the stuff to track progress, mood, thoughts, side effects, activities etc, and there's definitely a very clear difference between now and before I was taking them.
What websites would you guys refer online?
I was looking at NootropicNexus and they are super cheap compared to SmartPowders?
Why is that?
Aniracetam Bulk Powder | Nootropic Nexus (http://nootropicnexus.com/products/aniracetam)
BrRsn
06-30-2014, 02:05 PM
Smart Powders is good because they come with a purity report, so does the liftmode branded stuff (amazon.com and ship to PR)
Not too sure about different places, but so far I have used smart powders and liftmode from amazon.com with success
i must ask, do you guys have any pragmatic results?
like if you statistically recorded all your activities... are you guys doing more things? completing more projects? starting more projects?
or is it just a feeling?
Eh, I wouldn't say I do more. I have the opposite problem, I start a lot of projects/hobbies and give up/lose interest halfway. It helps my brain calm down a bit, and focus on a single thing. For your first time, I'd recommend some Theanine with your coffee before doing brain intensive activities -- it really helps you 'zone out' and lose yourself in whatever you are doing
I bought l-theanine from liftmode off of amazon and everything was great.
It's weird because it has this slightly sweet taste. I'm too use to the nasty taste of caffeine pills
What websites would you guys refer online?
I was looking at NootropicNexus and they are super cheap compared to SmartPowders?
Why is that?
Aniracetam Bulk Powder | Nootropic Nexus (http://nootropicnexus.com/products/aniracetam)
Can't speak for the sites you mentioned, but I use New Star Nootropics, which is pretty popular in the reddit nootropics community. No problems so far.
SkinnyPupp
01-06-2015, 04:41 PM
If anyone wants to buy some some modafinil, I have 40 tabs I won't be using. PM me
strykn
02-01-2015, 11:20 AM
Just tried Phenylpiracetam.. HOLY SHIT MAN.. shits on any other nootropic I tried. Better than modafinil even. Great adderall alternative.
Just tried Phenylpiracetam.. HOLY SHIT MAN.. shits on any other nootropic I tried. Better than modafinil even. Great adderall alternative.
What's the big difference from your experience?
strykn
02-01-2015, 03:19 PM
What's the big difference from your experience?
Extremely noticeable focus, mood(happiness), and confidence. Which appears to be lasting, been 5 hrs still going strong. Dosed 500mg.
Tried Noopept, oxiracetam, piracetam, and aniracetam which didn't have any noticeable effects on me.
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