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What to do about illegal dumping?
dinosaur
10-20-2013, 02:32 PM
Hoping that some of you will have some suggestions...
I manage couple small buildings in the Highgate Mall area of Burnaby and am having a terrible time with non-residents dumping garbage (old shitty furniture, mattresses, etc...not 'trash') in the back parking lot/alley.
Usually I end up calling a junk removal company or breaking down the junk and throwing it in our dumpster. It can get costly, obviously, but simply, it is just really annoying and makes the buildings look sketchy.
Today I received a tenant call to let me know that she caught one of these people dumping and took some photos. She snapped photos of his license plate, van, and him (and his kids). Furthermore, she witnessed the entire event and snapped some shots of the aftermath.
I had her email me a "statement" and the photos.
So....what do I do?
There is a community police station by Highgate Mall that I thought about taking all of this to...or, do I call the City of Burnaby? Or, is there something else I should do?
BrRsn
10-20-2013, 03:20 PM
i had a guy that kept taking illegal dumps in my backyard
i went out and bought a hunting camera that took photos w/ flash in response to movement
after I caught that fucker on camera a few times and uploaded it to social media he stopped coming around
no one likes being photographed with their pants down.
Hondaracer
10-20-2013, 06:34 PM
my GF lives in burnaby off lougheed and in this little round-about area there is an island that kind of divides 2 high rises, then like 3 different low rise developments
ever since i've known her the island is basically the dumping grounds for everyone around there. It's a pretty nice area and in her building it's about 90% owners so i dont think it's coming from her building but most likely renters in the low rises around there
it was reallyyyyy bad one week there were like 2 whole living room suites dumped there, somone had even set them up like they were in the living room lol, so the caretaker of her building put up a big notice in the elevators etc about catching people and fining them etc
the problem is, i think most of the people dumping are probably renters as i said, and if youre moving away and just dump your shit there, outside of getting a liscence plate for a positive ID, if your gone the next day whats there to stop you?
Renthal
10-20-2013, 06:44 PM
Bylaw officer through the city should be able to take the pics and info and go give a fine to the dumpers.
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Gridlock
10-20-2013, 07:33 PM
Don't worry Dinosaur! This sounds like a job for the RS Justice League!
But really not as Gridman definitely does NOT want this shit in the back of his BatTruck.
fishCak3s
10-21-2013, 02:15 PM
Contact City of Burnaby, there is a phone # at the bottom of the page
Litter Awareness (http://www.burnaby.ca/City-Services/Garbage---Recycling/Education---Resources/Litter-Awareness.html)
I live around Highgate in an apartment complex, I usually just call the City if I have something large to throw away.
Call the City to arrange a pick up time, the City would then tell me how to prep the item and bring it out the night before or the morning of.
It's free as well.
Presto
10-21-2013, 06:23 PM
Post their photos by the dumpster with a note that they're being watched.
valent|n0
10-21-2013, 06:30 PM
Contact City of Burnaby, there is a phone # at the bottom of the page
Litter Awareness (http://www.burnaby.ca/City-Services/Garbage---Recycling/Education---Resources/Litter-Awareness.html)
I live around Highgate in an apartment complex, I usually just call the City if I have something large to throw away.
Call the City to arrange a pick up time, the City would then tell me how to prep the item and bring it out the night before or the morning of.
It's free as well.
I wish other city has this
I know new westminster doesn't
Hondaracer
10-22-2013, 09:34 PM
whats dumb about my GF's building and their policy is you deal with burnaby through them, and it's like $50 per item regardless size for you to place it in the temp parking and have burnaby pick it up
this probably contributes to the illegal dumping im sure
dinosaur
10-23-2013, 12:13 AM
This is one of the pics....SO NOT COOL!!!! City won't pick up if it is on private property with a contract with a different sanitation company :(
Going to be about $300 to remove. Time to hunt the fucker down!
18922
Too bad there isn't a social media page to post the pictures and names of these assholes and link it to their jobs, kids school, etc. And it can only be removed until they pay the fine + 500% on top and community service for being a cunt.
These types of people are the worst.
Too bad there isn't a social media page to post the pictures and names of these assholes and link it to their jobs, kids school, etc. And it can only be removed until they pay the fine + 500% on top and community service for being a cunt.
These types of people are the worst.
Yeahhhhhhh, I'm all for public shaming of the individual but kids are absolutely off limits. They're completely innocent and should be in no way involved in the shaming.
dinosaur
10-23-2013, 01:05 AM
I have a pic of the car with plate number....just didn't think it was appropriate to post here. I'll get 'em though!
Off to the community RCMP station in the morning.
Hondaracer
10-23-2013, 06:37 AM
Sad thing is the effort people in dumping this shit, all those cabinets to take to the dump would only be like 50-60
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they think it will cost them more...i've rented trucks before and taken stuff to the dump where you pay based on weight...some people don't want to go to that effort. dam that's a lot of stuff...probably easier to unload at the dump than it is at your building...
hopefully the community RCMP guys can help you. i always see no dumping signs with pentalties of up to $5k
does your building have a CCTV camera? maybe knowing they are monitored will force them to try at another building...either that or cover up their plates before they drive up
Ferra
10-23-2013, 08:22 AM
If you call the cop (non-emergency line), can they do anything about it?
to me, illegal dumping is no different than stealing...both cost money for the victims
I would rather see these ppl get charged then getting a petty fines from the city
apologies...went overboard with involving the little ones.
604STIG
10-23-2013, 01:20 PM
This is one of the pics....SO NOT COOL!!!! City won't pick up if it is on private property with a contract with a different sanitation company :(
Going to be about $300 to remove. Time to hunt the fucker down!
18922
I saw that small cream colored cabinet tossed on the side of the road at Richmond park on Elwell yesterday. Probably the matching piece if not that exact one.
fishCak3s
10-24-2013, 11:42 AM
I have a pic of the car with plate number....just didn't think it was appropriate to post here. I'll get 'em though!
Off to the community RCMP station in the morning.
Let us know what happens.
Did you try the illegal dumping line? Were they helpful?
finbar
10-24-2013, 12:39 PM
This is one of the pics
http://www.revscene.net/forums/attachments/18922-what-do-about-illegal-dumping-not-cool.jpg
I posted crap like that (vintage furniture) for free on CL, mom and the kids showed up in a pickup and happily hauled it off.
Edit;
Jim Carrey's solution to illegal dumping. :troll:
Me, Myself & Irene: Ice Cream Scene - YouTube
dinosaur
10-24-2013, 03:28 PM
So, I phoned the CofB and explained the situation. They told me to call the RCMP and file a report. Usually I am not a fan of contacting the RCMP over, lets face it, trivial issues but I went over to the community station today to see what they thought.
They opened a file and I was able to talk to an officer who happened to be there. They took all the information and said he would go talk to the guy who dumped all the shit. Technically, no laws were broken so there really isn't anything that can be done. I understand that it would be silly for them to waste resources over this issue, so I get it.
Tomorrow I will phone the City back and give them the info. When I talked to them other day, they said that having an RCMP file number COULD help them pursue from their end.
Regardless of what happens, I am happy I at least tried. I thought, for sure, a By-law Officer would be interested in this and that there would be some law that says you can't do this.
Going forward, I am going to post a sign letting the public know that the premises are monitored and any suspicious or illegal activity will be submitted to the RCMP.
Thanks for all your comments and suggestion...I'll update if anything else comes out of all of this.
On a related note: Does anyone need some furniture? I am not sure if you can tell from the picture, but there are some lovely particle board pieces, a computer chair, and some soggy couches :fullofwin:
SoNaRWaVe
10-24-2013, 03:59 PM
as bad as this sounds, you should start a wall of shame on those 2 pillars. you can start by posting the guys face, and only his face. anything else should be off limits.
E-40six
10-25-2013, 07:58 PM
You should put up CCTV cameras or atleast get the fake ones with a sign pointing at them.
That's the advice I provide all my clients with who have to deal with illegal dumping.
winson604
10-25-2013, 11:46 PM
I'll just comment on City of Vancouver for those interested although it's probably not much different vs other Municipalities.
If it's dumped on private property you're shit out of luck even with evidence. Even VPD can't do anything.
If it's dumped on City property you have a few options.
A. Call the City and they will pick it up. Treated as abandoned garbage if no evidence provided unless there are items which can identify who it's such as house hold garbage which may have mail and stuff.
B. If you have actually evidence such as you witnessed the vehicle that came by and have plates and or you have footage or something then the Illegal Dumping Team can investigate and fine.
C. You can also request No Dumping signs to be put on City property
dinosaur
10-26-2013, 08:12 AM
I'll just comment on City of Vancouver for those interested although it's probably not much different vs other Municipalities.
If it's dumped on private property you're shit out of luck even with evidence. Even VPD can't do anything.
If it's dumped on City property you have a few options.
A. Call the City and they will pick it up. Treated as abandoned garbage if no evidence provided unless there are items which can identify who it's such as house hold garbage which may have mail and stuff.
B. If you have actually evidence such as you witnessed the vehicle that came by and have plates and or you have footage or something then the Illegal Dumping Team can investigate and fine.
C. You can also request No Dumping signs to be put on City property
This is kind of the issue I have. A portion is on "City" property but that was just due to "spill over".
The RCMP said they'll make contact with they guy and "tell him not to do it again", but other than that...I am shit outta luck.
I don't know what it is about that area in South Burnaby, but there is shit EVERYWHERE. I drive down any alley and there are piles a dumped furniture. I use to manage another building in SoBu (yes, I just made that up) and had the same issues. My building in New West never have that problem...
winson604
10-26-2013, 12:54 PM
I hear ya brotha. We get calls at the City about it on a daily basis and there really isn't much anyone can do. Sure we can come pick it up if it's on City and sure on occasion someone gets fined but the problem doesn't stop. Once 1 person dumps something the rest follow. People who see even 1 piece of garbage dumped automatically think "hey this is a sweet spot I'll come back later with my shit". What's another piece or 2 of garbage right?
Best of luck to you man!
dinosaur
10-26-2013, 01:56 PM
Yeah....we like to call it the "Ikea Garden". One item gets planted and the next thing you know, 5 other items pop up, LOL.
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