[Timpo]

658 cc DOHC Inline-3 turbo
64hp/6,000rpm
77lb-ft/2,600rpm

Honda is evaluating 1.0L engine for overseas market
I guess it'll be called S1000?

http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/616564.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/616714.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/616717.jpg
http://image.news.livedoor.com/newsimage/7/c/7c09f_9_c927c9cf9717b11642ca085391ab73ce.jpg

[thumper]

is this classfied in japan as a kei car, or is it bigger?

at 77 ft-lbs of torque... can this car even pull it's own weight?

how much does it weigh?

[SpeedStars]

not gonna make it in NA. Only if it were slightly bigger and at least had a 2.0... The FRS may finally have some competition
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[N8]

also make it RWD

[123654123]

hope its an MR layout
looks like its gonna be a mini nsx like the honda beat

[thumper]

slightly off topic: why did nissan stop building the silvia? if there was a direct competitor available against the toyobaru it would have been the silvia...

[bcrdukes]

I prefer the classic Honda S600.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/HondaS600-001.jpg

[Timpo]

is this classfied in japan as a kei car, or is it bigger?

at 77 ft-lbs of torque... can this car even pull it's own weight?

how much does it weigh?I don't know how much it weights, but yes it is a kei car.

[Yodamaster]

slightly off topic: why did nissan stop building the silvia? if there was a direct competitor available against the toyobaru it would have been the silvia...

Change in management.

Nissan has lost a lot of ground in terms of what enthusiasts want vs. what they are producing for the soccer moms. The GTR is great, but it's still a car many cannot afford, the 370z is just a G37 with an even uglier body.

People want a 240z in a world where producing such a car is difficult due to strict regulations, Toyota and Subaru have proven that it's possible, but it doesn't change the fact that Nissan loves to re-use chassis', and all of their current chassis' are large and heavy. Designing a car from scratch and tooling a factory to produce such a car is an expensive and time consuming venture, I wish they'd do it, but it doesn't seem likely.

[Timpo]

is this classfied in japan as a kei car, or is it bigger?

at 77 ft-lbs of torque... can this car even pull it's own weight?

how much does it weigh?oh and it can pull its own weight

77lb-ft is shit load of torque for a kei car...

just for comparison:

Honda N-One
0.66L Inline-3
57hp/7,300rpm, 47lb-ft/3,500rpm
http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/honda-n-one-sales-debut-in-japan-photo-gallery_16.jpg

Suzuki Twin
0.66L Inline-3
43hp/5,500rpm, 41lb-ft/3,500rpm
http://www.carsensor.net/CSphoto/cat/SZ/S037/SZ_S037_F001_M001_1_L.jpg

Nissan Days
0.66L Inline-3
49hp/6,500rpm, 43lb-ft/5,000rpm
http://clicccar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dayz_02.jpg

[thumper]

Change in management.

Nissan has lost a lot of ground in terms of what enthusiasts want vs. what they are producing for the soccer moms. The GTR is great, but it's still a car many cannot afford, the 370z is just a G37 with an even uglier body.

People want a 240z in a world where producing such a car is difficult due to strict regulations, Toyota and Subaru have proven that it's possible, but it doesn't change the fact that Nissan loves to re-use chassis', and all of their current chassis' are large and heavy. Designing a car from scratch and tooling a factory to produce such a car is an expensive and time consuming venture, I wish they'd do it, but it doesn't seem likely.

that sucks. all i could find was some abomination based on the juke platform with a 1.6turbo FWD powertrain. no no no hell no.

[Akinari]

There's no way any kei-car will be successful in North America, period. It doesn't make financial sense for any Japanese automaker to bring them over either.

[Timpo]

There's no way any kei-car will be successful in North America, period. It doesn't make financial sense for any Japanese automaker to bring them over either.huh? :suspicious:

Smart Fortwo
0-60mph: 19.5 seconds

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/11/26/071892.1-lg.jpg

[Timpo]

If you're talking about Accelration, Suzuki Cappucino was already faster than 1989 Eunos Roadster (Mazda Miata)

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/history-of-the-japanese-kei-car-49720_6.jpg

[Jmac]

There's that Scion bubble, too.

[Timpo]

There's that Scion bubble, too.

what's scion bubble? iq?

[Timpo]

The iQ is actually too big to be a kei car. It's pretty big and has 1.3L(I think?) engine too, instead of other kei cars(360-660cc)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/4948189904_b2e2d4a19f_o.jpg

[Timpo]

I can see Kei cars being successful in North America.

More people are getting conscious about gas mileage, and kei cars are CHEAP. They can be bought from $7,500-$8,000 range.

Sure, you can argue they're slow and ugly, however Smart car was not exactly a good looking/fast car either.
Also kei cars can carry more people, luggage, get better gas mileage than smart car too.

Daihatsu Cocoa
http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/lineup/mira_cocoa/img/index/main_img_01.jpg

Honda N Box
http://www.newautosnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Honda-N-Box-Plus-JDM-2012.jpg

Daihatsu Move
http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/lineup/move_custom/img/index/main_img_01.jpg

Toyota Pixis
http://toyota.jp/~/media/Images/Carlineup/pixisspace/001_p_003/top/image/top_ttl_mainvisual.jpg

Mazda AZ-Offroad
http://www.az-off.mazda.co.jp/img/az_off-top.jpg

Subaru Stella
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hb4teCR8wgI/UNTyu4lPHbI/AAAAAAAABLs/J9q5XNd1j2U/s1600/2013+Subaru+Stella.jpg

Honda N One
http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2013-Honda-N-One-Premium-Tourer-L-front-view-in-red-1024x640.jpg

Mitsubishi Minicab Camper
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/minicab_van/lineup/minicab_camper/images/index_h1_01.jpg

Nissan Moco
http://response.jp/imgs/feed_l/338530.jpg

Mazda Flair
http://freakwheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Mazda-Flairwagon-Wallpaper.jpg

[Manic!]

how would you fit 4 North Americans in a 4 door Kei car? add luggage you just added upwords of a 1000 pounds. Good luck going up hill with that.

[Ikkaku]

it'll work for flat areas like the praries lol

[xXSupa]

@2 above: LOL

In addition to that, the Kei cars look so light and fragile. I feel like if they were to get into a serious accident, the occupants of the car are very unlikely to survive. I'm ignorant on this topic, but how is the safety for Kei cars?

[Timpo]

@2 above: LOL

In addition to that, the Kei cars look so light and fragile. I feel like if they were to get into a serious accident, the occupants of the car are very unlikely to survive. I'm ignorant on this topic, but how is the safety for Kei cars?

The modern kei cars are not bad. Japan made this standard that kei cars must be just as safe as normal cars.

They are safe enough to pass North American regulations.
In fact, Mitsubishi i is actually a kei car in Japan.
In North America, 660cc engine was replaced with electric motor(Mitsubishi i-Miev), but chassis/platform are all identical.

http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200604/04/06/f0040106_2023199.jpg

[wstce92]

cvt? get your shit together Honda, you make an excellent 6spd

[v_tec]

cvt? get your shit together Honda, you made an excellent 6spd

Corrected.

[thumper]

The modern kei cars are not bad. Japan made this standard that kei cars must be just as safe as normal cars.

They are safe enough to pass North American regulations.
In fact, Mitsubishi i is actually a kei car in Japan.
In North America, 660cc engine was replaced with electric motor(Mitsubishi i-Miev), but chassis/platform are all identical.



not quite correct. the north american version of the japanese i-miev is larger:

Mitsubishi i-MiEV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_i-MiEV)

The U.S.-only version is enlarged, has redesigned front and rear bumpers,[133] and includes more features than the Japanese and European versions in order to meet crash standards, government mandates, and the preferences of the U.S. consumers. The American version is 285 millimetres (11.2 in) longer than the Japanese version, 110 millimetres (4.3 in) wider,[4] and slightly taller. It also has advanced airbags and the mandated tire-pressure monitoring system (TPMS), has an upgraded interior and features more accessories.

[Timpo]

Oh OK I thought they were identical for some reason
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[ScratchedMy991]

I think that there is a market for the car here if it arrives in 1000cc form. The aftermarket for parts for that thing will also likely explode.

[Akinari]

The iQ is actually too big to be a kei car. It's pretty big and has 1.3L(I think?) engine too, instead of other kei cars(360-660cc)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/4948189904_b2e2d4a19f_o.jpg
The iQ is quite a bit bigger and more comfortable (also quicker) than a Smart Fortwo. My friend has one and I had the chance to drive it from Coquitlam to White Rock.

[thumper]

I think that there is a market for the car here if it arrives in 1000cc form. The aftermarket for parts for that thing will also likely explode.

smart car with a hayabusa engine swap

Smart Car Hayabusa & Mini Hayabusa Bike Engine Conversions (http://www.extreme-engineeringuk.com/)

:fullofwin:

[320icar]

So this is the modern day Honda beat? Awesome.

http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/616564.jpg

http://wot.motortrend.com/files/2013/10/1991-Honda-Beat-front-side-view.jpg
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[Timpo]

So this is the modern day Honda beat? Awesome.

http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/616564.jpg

http://wot.motortrend.com/files/2013/10/1991-Honda-Beat-front-side-view.jpg
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Kind of, S500, S600, S800 and S2000 were all front engine, rear wheel drive.
The Beat was mid engine, rear wheel drive.

[Timpo]

btw Kei Police cars are popular in Japan.

It's a budget friendly thing for police department.

They should ditch those inefficient Crown Vic, Tahoe and Charger and be eco friendly :thumbsup:

http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201008/16/13/c0063613_10585352.jpg
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201203/07/57/a0201157_1481313.jpg
http://www.ac.auone-net.jp/~sw-mtt/LOVELOG_IMG/96BC8FCC96A290DD92E8-276.JPG

[Timpo]

oh shit Kei cars are not available in North America.

At least they can still do this. :cool:

Nissan Versa
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200910/04/13/c0063613_1835093.jpg

Toyota Echo
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201201/09/13/c0063613_9542548.jpg

Honda Insight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Insight_policecar.JPG

[Timpo]

Honda S360

0.36L Inline-4
33hp/9,000rpm 19lb-ft/7,000rpm

http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/617762.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/617766.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/617763.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/617770.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/617771.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/617772.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/617773.jpg

[Timpo]

http://cvimg01cv.c.yimg.jp/cvmaterials/road_impression/2013/honda_s360/01_l.jpg
http://cvimg01cv.c.yimg.jp/cvmaterials/road_impression/2013/honda_s360/07_l.jpg
http://cvimg01cv.c.yimg.jp/cvmaterials/road_impression/2013/honda_s360/05_l.jpg

[falcon]

Looks like a modern version of a Honda Beat.

[pherio]

Production started for Japan, limited to 660 units
6-speed manual available!!!
Honda Worldwide | March 30, 2015 "Honda to Begin Sales of All-New S660 Open-top Sports-type Mini-vehicle" (http://world.honda.com/news/2015/4150330All-New-S660/index.html)

http://world.honda.com/news/2015/4150330All-New-S660/photo/images/03.jpg

[Akinari]

So awesome :megusta:

[Klondike]

smart car with a hayabusa engine swap

Smart Car Hayabusa & Mini Hayabusa Bike Engine Conversions (http://www.extreme-engineeringuk.com/)

:fullofwin:

AKA the Smartuki Smart Car + Suzuki GSXR = Ultimate Tuned Smart - Smartuki (http://www.smartuki.com/)

:sweetjesus: this is what the smart car needs.

[tonyzoomzoom]

Wish they would bring this to North America.

[SupraTTturbo2jz]

damn, i misread and thought it said 644 hp and 771 tq:lawl:

[Akinari]

I've compiled some really interesting tidbits of info on the S660 from the Japanese Honda website. I find the bit on the transmission particularly intriguing. Unfortunately it's all in Japanese, but if someone here knows Japanese and can translate I'd appreciate it :thumbs: A

http://i.imgur.com/WYHwD9U.png
http://i.imgur.com/0ssRY3H.png
http://i.imgur.com/2CFmkPl.png
http://i.imgur.com/2Nww5Ic.png
http://i.imgur.com/8yfnLrh.png
http://i.imgur.com/M0566ZC.png
http://i.imgur.com/kn0TAG3.png
http://i.imgur.com/M3n3Cki.png
http://i.imgur.com/jrlRJJD.png
http://i.imgur.com/UzOID2Y.png
http://i.imgur.com/malwY1l.png
http://i.imgur.com/NQhQ3TW.png
http://i.imgur.com/Mt82zYX.png
http://i.imgur.com/u4waeuu.png
http://i.imgur.com/bw6Io7p.png
http://i.imgur.com/kulqO8R.png
http://i.imgur.com/xc6eBKH.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ym2vCo6.png

Also Modulo accessories :sweetjesus::sweetjesus::sweetjesus:

Honda�bHonda Access�bS660 (http://www.honda.co.jp/ACCESS/s660/)

http://i.imgur.com/zZ1OMrx.png
http://i.imgur.com/FX0COUp.png

I desperately want this thing. Maybe with an extra 50-60 horsepower. The car in Japan starts at just under $21,000 CAD at the current exchange rate. Hell it's still a mid-engine RWD car. A good sign that Honda isn't dead?

[Timpo]

I wonder if this will ever come to North America?

[twitchyzero]

holy hell...never thought honda would create a next-gen Beat/mini NSX without some hybrid earthdream engine in it
articles seems to point to a 1L 125hp version for NA is currently in consideration
@ under 1-tonne that would make it pretty competitive against the FRS/BRZ and the new MX-5...turbo MR under $20K will have a cult-following

[smoothie.]

holy hell...never thought honda would create a next-gen Beat/mini NSX...not without some hybrid earthdream engine in it
articles seems to point to a 1L 125hp version for NA is currently in consideration
that would make it pretty competitive against the FRS and the new MX-5...turbo MR under $20K and can you imagine if they release a hard top? It'll literally have a cult following

might take 10 years....

[hk20000]

the car makes a blow off sound of "pashuu!" when you shift. :toot:

http://i.imgur.com/M3n3Cki.png

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s18q8nzsqI

not really digging the climate controls..

[Zordon]

Not digging the soft top... The guy made it sound more exciting than it actually looked.

[amusegt1]

AD08R for OE tires. Wow.

[Akinari]

Mugen S660

Mugen Reveals Honda S660 Range of Accessories ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/midship-amusement-mugen-unveils-honda-s660-roadster-bits-and-bobs/)

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2015-Mugen-Honda-S660-roadster-JDM-spec-109-876x535.jpg
http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2015-Mugen-Honda-S660-roadster-JDM-spec-110-876x535.jpg

[twitchyzero]

im surprised the beat isn't more popular here...it's designed by Pininfarina for crying out loud
prices too high for import? very few parts in common with del sol/civics? top speed is limited to 135kph but so it should still be plenty for our highways...just don't expect to be passing anyone.

[Akinari]

im surprised the beat isn't more popular here...it's designed by Pininfarina for crying out loud
prices too high for import? very few parts in common with del sol/civics? top speed barely reach our highway limit?
I think you're forgetting the fact that the car is actually tiny and probably doesn't fit the majority of us North American folk comfortably. That and the fact that the Miata has more power, aftermarket availability, and is far more easily attainable.

[asian_XL]

it is around 16000usd in Japan. I am sure it is out of stock immediately there.

the BOV sounds okay in the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLEyNnANTSw

[Tone Loc]

IMO this car wouldn't do well in NA because the majority of consumers here are obsessed with power and size.

The FR-S/BRZ has 200 hp and lots of people complained (and still do) about how it's not enough... I can't imagine a car 3/4 the size with less than 50% the power doing well here at all. Not to mention that this thing would likely not be fun for a 50+km highway drive which is pretty common esp in the US.

That being said, it would be cool to have Honda cash in on the resurgence of cheap RWD "fun" cars... if they made this car a little bigger and put a nice DOHC 4-banger in it, sort of like a baby S2000, I'd definitely consider dropping the money for one.

[asian_XL]

^ fat ass merica won't fit

this model stands beside the S660, it looks so timpo

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--h5tkJqHg--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/rndf0tyawhxljmxmypcl.png

another photo

http://www.pixentral.com/pics/19Q2C3Kh6ipKKeu9I4oAylUygQXI0.jpg

[Timpo]

Mugen S660

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpLgKPunNhE

[Timpo]

^ fat ass merica won't fit


they should at least try, they sell this, why not S660

http://image.e-nenpi.com/article_images/201201/168504/402425.jpg

[spoon.ek9]

oh man, I think I want one lol

[Manic!]

they should at least try, they sell this, why not S660

http://image.e-nenpi.com/article_images/201201/168504/402425.jpg

Remember this?

http://www.suzuki-forums.com/attachments/suzuki-sidekick-escudo-vitara-geo-tracker/12301d1316073777-x-90-mods-hpim0090-medium-.jpg

[twitchyzero]

if a B or K swap fits without completely upsetting the 50:50 balance then BibleThump:joy::sweetjesus:

[asian_XL]

^ Hayabusa it