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GS8
10-25-2013, 11:58 PM
Soz if duplicate.

Was browsing ads and came across a 94 Supra non-turbo RHD with supposedly 91k and no accidents. All for around $9000.

Not saying I'd get it but that price certainly got my attention.

When I was a kid, I always dreamed of having one of the 'Japanese muscle cars' but they were always $30,000 +

Now they come in RHD flavour, the price is a crazy steal though the compromise is sitting in the passenger seat. I know all about inspections (grading system) and who your importer is but with R34s and Chasers coming over, it kind of becomes one of those 'how can you say no'?

Does anyone here own a RHD? Is it worth it? Are most just junk? Are they a really well kept secret for finding a wicked bang for buck?

Toyota Chaser V, Turbo, RWD, 89km, NO Accidents! (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/ctd/4103398497.html)

1998 Toyota Celsior = Lexus LS 400 (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/4124496834.html) <--- how much would a similar spec LS400 cost? :badpokerface:

Subaru Forester Turbo RHD Manual Low KM!!! JDM (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/4082269897.html)

Timpo
10-26-2013, 12:10 AM
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Timpo
10-26-2013, 12:10 AM
you know those cars are imported into Canada because they failed Shaken(Japanese government inspection) right?

N8
10-26-2013, 02:46 AM
If you shop carefully - ie. get compression and/or leakdown test.. and it's not 'R' grade (3 or higher is good) you can get a good car. Of course there are risks if you import it yourself, as you can't see the car in person. Hasnihon is a good place I've dealt with on multiple occasions.

Zedbra
10-26-2013, 07:19 AM
you know those cars are imported into Canada because they failed Shaken(Japanese government inspection) right?

:fulloffuck:

OP - some of these cars can be a said "deal". Make certain it is a model you can readily access parts and also be prepared to learn to drive on the other side - sight is slightly more difficult for turns but you get used to it.

Puck Luck
10-26-2013, 08:07 AM
How would you handle going to the drive through? Go in reverse?

GotRice?
10-26-2013, 08:15 AM
^^^
http://www.cheshirecatstudios.com/forum/resources/mcdonalds-drive-through-like-a-boss/4584

Suprarz666
10-26-2013, 08:16 AM
I feel like the only RHD cars worth buying are the ones that aren't available here as a LHD option. Such as chasers, skylines, s15 etc etc.

Timpo
10-26-2013, 08:45 AM
just buy a LHD conversion kit

http://i15.tinypic.com/4zxubt3.jpg
http://just.razzi.me/photos/443640/8663e28.jpg
http://www.turboawd.com.ph/images/gallery/gtr/082303_15.jpg
http://www.turboawd.com.ph/images/gallery/gtr/072403_3.jpg

TurboFC3S
10-26-2013, 09:20 AM
you know those cars are imported into Canada because they failed Shaken(Japanese government inspection) right?

Nope, not all. The ones that have shaken are were usually higher price when u went to bid for them though

I used to import back in the day for a living, loved rhd cars, only sucks turning left at big intersections and going through drive throughs lol.

Other than that 90% of the cars i brought in were in amazing shape, better than most the 15+yr old junk here, and no rust :)

kwy
10-26-2013, 09:45 AM
Not worth the sketchy left turns IMO. Sketchy enough in a LHD car with a big truck blocking the view in the other lane without being shifted over to the other side of the car.

GabAlmighty
10-26-2013, 10:27 AM
Not worth the sketchy left turns IMO. Sketchy enough in a LHD car with a big truck blocking the view in the other lane without being shifted over to the other side of the car.

If left turns are "sketchy" for you in a LHD car you shouldn't be driving.

thumper
10-26-2013, 12:16 PM
i like that chaser very very much....

http://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_iIaHUBdRhdQ_600x450.jpg

... but it's an automatic :(

the drive thru argument always comes up... just park the damn car and walk your lazy ass inside the restaurant lol. at security gates i used an extendable pointer i bought at staples and either hung my pass card on it to press onto the card reader, or used it to punch in the code on the keypad. however, i never had the chance to drive down to the states so i'm not sure how the toll booth thing works at the border crossing.

i drove a RHD as a daily for about a month and yes at first there were some anxious moments. i had a tendency to drift too close to center line, and i learned not to take any more chances turning left and instead wait for traffic to either be completely clear or for the light to change.

i also don't know what is the big deal about the headlight beam cutoff for a RHD car. does it blind oncoming traffic? no one ever flashed me when i drove at night...

oh yeah and opening the door on the left side and forgetting that the steering wheel is on the right... fail. took me awhile before i finally stopped doing that.

as for shaken, the one i drove was bought with a still valid shaken (private sale), but it still failed the provincial inspection when it was here (ball joints or LCAs i can't remember). a car in japan with a fresh shaken would be very expensive on the used car market, and might be too much $ by the time it gets here :(

falcon
10-26-2013, 01:11 PM
you know those cars are imported into Canada because they failed Shaken(Japanese government inspection) right?

You know that you are completely incorrect, right?

source; I've actually imported cars, and don't just talk about it like you.





OP, RHD cars can be a very good buy, or a very bad buy. You need to have a good broker on the other end who knows what to buy and what not too. A lot of the cars I try to import are ones that are either private sale or cars at auction that still have valid regi.

Japanese put very little value on used goods. And the govt. subsidizes new car purchases to a point which gives them a good reason to off their old one and upgrade. You can steal a sweet car for very little. For instance last week I won a Peugeot 106 S16 for a nice daily driver for a better price than anything I could get here for the same. 70,000kms, LHD, manual, 1.6L 16v.. should be a fun car.

falcon
10-26-2013, 01:12 PM
I feel like the only RHD cars worth buying are the ones that aren't available here as a LHD option. Such as chasers, skylines, s15 etc etc.

This has always been my opinion. Seeing RX7's, Civics, VWs and Supras makes me think "what's the point?"

jtanner_
10-26-2013, 01:12 PM
Speaking from experience... I was told to never come back to the McDonalds drive through on Scott Road because I drove through in reverse in my RHD EVO I and it was considered a safety hazard...

The whole left hand turn scenario. Honestly, If you can't see, then don't go. Your visibility is not THAT limited unless there is a large vehicle on the opposite side also making a left turn. If that's the case, creep up into the intersection and wait until it goes yellow to make your turn.

I was pulled over once because my passenger was texting and the officer thought they were driving... It can be comical crossing the border or going through a road block if you have a nice officer.

In terms of the bad... You just have to be careful. It can be really hard to get the previous history of a vehicle from Japan. If it's already here, just take the same precaution you would as buying a regular car. If you're going to invest '$x,xxx' into a vehicle, you might as well spend the couple hundred to get a proper inspection done at a shop.

falcon
10-26-2013, 01:14 PM
Oh, and the drivethrough thing... one; you could just not eat fast food since it's not exactly good for you, but if you must.. you can reach over no problem. Back when I acutally ate that garbage I would just drive through normal and reach over without a problem.

BoostedBB6
10-26-2013, 01:43 PM
I own a RHD Supra and its a great car. I do wish I could have found a good LHD one but they are not easy to come across. I may pick up a shell and swap things over to get a LHD one but thats in the future.

A Chaser would be a sick DD tho....

RHD cars have there querks but I find it no harder to drive than the LHD equivilent.

GLOW
10-26-2013, 02:08 PM
my neighbour has a RHD mitsu delica. thing seems pretty cool. 3 rows of seats and sits high up. he said he had zero problems with left turns but then again he can usually see over most cars.

GS8
10-26-2013, 03:37 PM
Yeah if did pick up a RHD car, it wouldn't be an Integra, Civic or 93 Camry :lawl:

Really dig the Chasers and the R33 & R34 Skyline Sedans. Seeing as the market isn't exactly saturated in them, I guess you would have to use more discretion should one pop up.

I know tyeeimports sells junk. Most of their inspection sheets have a nice fat R in the corner.

Jgresch
10-26-2013, 03:48 PM
While we are on topic, does pretty much every importer(dealer) require you pay 100% up front? Or do any just do a deposit type thing? Doesn't feel right to me paying the full price for a car not having seen it or driven it in person before....

thumper
10-26-2013, 03:50 PM
This has always been my opinion. Seeing RX7's, Civics, VWs and Supras makes me think "what's the point?"

for some models, like the twin turbo rx7 and supra, a good LHD model is very expensive and very rare. for many who want those cars but cannot afford them, JDM is the only way to go. also common parts would be easier to get.

having said that, i wish the same argument applied to the nsx. they can cost the same or more in japan, not to mention the japanese are importing LHD models from north america to bring back home. sigh.

rJZx
10-26-2013, 03:52 PM
While we are on topic, does pretty much every importer(dealer) require you pay 100% up front? Or do any just do a deposit type thing? Doesn't feel right to me paying the full price for a car not having seen it or driven it in person before....

some importers(dealers) allos you to finance it after a deposit

twitchyzero
10-26-2013, 06:47 PM
what's there to talk about...turn on your wipers when you meant to put on your signals and vice versa :derp:

I feel like the only RHD cars worth buying are the ones that aren't available here as a LHD option. Such as chasers, skylines, s15 etc etc.

I own a RHD Supra and its a great car. I do wish I could have found a good LHD one but they are not easy to come across. I may pick up a shell and swap things over to get a LHD one but thats in the future.


I disagree with Supra and agree with Boosted

for some models of 90's japanese sports car.. there's basically no market here for clean and unmolested ones. On the off chance you find one...there's a massive premium. Perhaps that huge premium is worth it compared to the possible headache of importing..OOP compliance, waiting for shipping, no carfax etc but if you have the patience to go through it and don't mind driving in the passenger seat then it's def a cost-effective way to obtain a nice car.

falcon
10-26-2013, 09:52 PM
for some models, like the twin turbo rx7 and supra, a good LHD model is very expensive and very rare. for many who want those cars but cannot afford them, JDM is the only way to go. also common parts would be easier to get.

having said that, i wish the same argument applied to the nsx. they can cost the same or more in japan, not to mention the japanese are importing LHD models from north america to bring back home. sigh.

Not really, I bought a clean low KM 93 FD for 10k in the states. You just have to take a bit of time to look.

NSX's aren't all that much cheaper over in JDM land.

falcon
10-26-2013, 09:55 PM
While we are on topic, does pretty much every importer(dealer) require you pay 100% up front? Or do any just do a deposit type thing? Doesn't feel right to me paying the full price for a car not having seen it or driven it in person before....

Yes, you have to pay. You leave a deposit (around 100,000yen) and once you bid on and win a car you pay the outstanding balance including their fee and shipping.

Retrac
10-26-2013, 11:35 PM
Rhd was difficult pulling out of residential street parking. Lol never 100% the road was clear, just slowly inching out and hoping no one will honk. :badpokerface:

thumper
10-27-2013, 08:21 AM
Rhd was difficult pulling out of residential street parking. Lol never 100% the road was clear, just slowly inching out and hoping no one will honk. :badpokerface:

i didn't think it was so bad. it's like parking on a one-way street downtown.

and there is no excuses for curbing your rims ;)

CanadianJoker
10-27-2013, 08:36 AM
If you go to a good company then there should be no issues with the car, after I paid my deposit my exporter looked at many cars. Before we even bid I had videos and photos of the interior and exterior of the car, he test drove the car to see how it ran and if there was any weird noises.

I had a wonderful experience buying a car from japan, and when/if I have the money for another I know where and who I'm going through.

p.s. this is my second RHD over the years (first was bought here in Canada) and I have no issues with driving. Ya I take a little longer then some to make a left at intersections, but thats about it.

Jgresch
10-27-2013, 09:57 AM
some importers(dealers) allos you to finance it after a deposit

I just mean it feels weird committing to the purchase before physically seeing the car.
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Jgresch
10-27-2013, 09:58 AM
Yes, you have to pay. You leave a deposit (around 100,000yen) and once you bid on and win a car you pay the outstanding balance including their fee and shipping.

And if the car arrives and it's not in the shape or mechanical condition described, I'm SOL?
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white rocket
10-27-2013, 10:37 AM
Does anyone know if EDM vehicles are viewed the same as JDM vehicles with respect to the 15 year rule? Only info I could find was #13 on the Admissible Vehicle sheet.

Timpo
10-27-2013, 10:39 AM
Does anyone know if EDM vehicles are viewed the same as JDM vehicles with respect to the 15 year rule? Only info I could find was #13 on the Admissible Vehicle sheet.

what's EDM?

white rocket
10-27-2013, 10:40 AM
European Domestic.

Timpo
10-27-2013, 10:41 AM
oh ok, then it has to be 15 years old or more.

Review of the 15-Year Exclusion for Imported Vehicles - Transport Canada (http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safevehicles-importation-15yearrule-index-448.htm)

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5048-eng.pdf

white rocket
10-27-2013, 10:52 AM
Nice. Thanx. Interesting info in your second link. Looks like I'll make a call tomorrow and see what they say.

CanadianJoker
10-27-2013, 08:19 PM
And if the car arrives and it's not in the shape or mechanical condition described, I'm SOL?
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That's why you go through a trusted exporter that's been in the business for a long time. Ask a million questions, ask for more photos and video. If he doesn't want to do that (or even offer that), then he isn't the person you want to deal with.

falcon
10-27-2013, 09:41 PM
^^ exaclty.