[PeanutButter]

To those of you who are interested, it seems like the Toronto police recovered a hard drive that had video, photo, and other files that were deleted. They managed to salvage some of those files, which included video/pictures of Mayor Rob Ford allegedly smoking crack.

Crazy digital age.. Nothing is safe anymore.
Rob Ford video recovered by Toronto police: Chief Bill Blair | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/31/rob-ford-crack-video-the-focus-of-investigation-drug-trafficking-search-warrant-documents-say/)

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/fordpic.jpg?w=620


Confrontation with the press and Rob Ford
Toronto Mayor Angrily Confronting Reporters - YouTube

[Cman333]

This shit again......Poor guy. Seemed like a good Mayor for TO until this shit happened

[Gridlock]

So Canadian...."get off my property, partner. Which part don't you understand, eh?"

"Get off my drivewayeh"

[Gridlock]

This shit again......Poor guy. Seemed like a good Mayor for TO until this shit happened

Sarcasm?

[4444]

This shit again......Poor guy. Seemed like a good Mayor for TO until this shit happened

He smokes crack - clearly his decision making process is flawed. Wouldn't want him in control of anything, especially not tax dollars.

Sorry to say, but I could never trust a junkie

[Gumby]

This guy simply LOOKS like a sleazeball. I wAnder what other crap he has done...

[Gridlock]

He smokes crack - clearly his decision making process is flawed. Wouldn't want him in control of anything, especially not tax dollars.

Sorry to say, but I could never trust a junkie

Well, his decision making skills didn't even have him using a quality drug like cocaine, so that's enough right there.

[PeanutButter]

I've been in Toronto for a few years now and I haven't heard anything bad about Mayor Ford or his policies, well minus this crack stuff. From what I can tell, he seems to be running the city pretty well.

The interviews of him in the Metro newspaper over the years make him sound very logical and intelligent in regards to decision/policy making. Also, the city of Ottawa tried to recruit Mayor Ford to run for office there. Which, leads me to believe he is pretty competent at what he does.

Too bad, because this will probably end his career.

[Gridlock]

You know, it makes me think about something. Provincially, we've done somewhat poorly in the political track record. Everyone resigns, not always under controversy, but definitely with asterisks.

In terms of municipal politics though, we do fairly well. Mayor Moonbeam may run a little left for most people, but he looks normal on tv, says the right things and keeps his nose clean. And all the mayors before that have gone on to have quality careers, either in politics or not after leaving office.

In the other cities...I have a personal beef with Burnaby's Corrigan, and Dino has irrational hate for Delta's Cruella DeVille but everyone seems to work for the benefit of their cities.

I think its a huge benefit that we aren't always grateful for. Even the weird dude in the wheelchair who let that guy do drugs in his back seat got ousted pretty quick so we didn't have to hear about his shenanigans.

[dinosaur]

and Dino has irrational hate for Delta's Cruella DeVille .

It ain't irrational, yo. Bitch is a cunt.

[Gridlock]

Guys...drama followed Rob Ford long before he took up the pipe.

The conflict of interest TRIAL?

Rob Ford conflict of interest trial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He was almost removed from office for that one.

His policies in terms of the city itself have been good. He also kept a large amount of campaign promises.

His actions outside city hall though, have landed him as a national mockery for his bit with the CBC once, and his bit with his radio show a second time, and internationally when he was being mocked on Jimmy Kimmel(which wasn't really his fault).

That said, EVERY time he's in front of the camera, shit just seems to go wrong. Including today with giving people the boots in front of his house. Oh! And reading the newspaper while fucking driving. He's only been mayor for 3 years!

It's embarrassing, and sadly, its all part of the job. Any other politician would make a comment of "I have no comment", get in his car and drive out. Not him.

[Hondaracer]

4 of my best friends all live in TO now and they've said pretty much that 75% or more of TO support ford, it's mostly an outsider POV that he's a crazy clown who doesn't know what he's doing g
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[murd0c]

I would take the crack smoking Ford over Mayor Moonbeam any day of the week!!

[tool001]

some good policies ,, bad image...

[Gridlock]

I would take the crack smoking Ford over Mayor Moonbeam any day of the week!!

Best of both worlds. I'm pretty sure Moonbeam was on crack when he came up with some of the bike lanes.

[melloman]

Rob Ford:
-Smokes crack.

Gregor Robertson:
-Millions in bike lanes
-Wants to demolish viaducts (less traffic, more room for bikes)
-Took out lanes on Burrard bridge
-Wants to take out lanes on Granville bridge

I support Rob Ford. :thumbsup: Atleast on crack, he still has a clearer mind then Good Guy Gregor.

[wstce92]

If Toronto doesn't want him, I would do and give anything to trade shitbag asshole gregor for Rob Ford

[dvst8]

I wouldn't want moonbeam or cracky. Nenshi is the man.

[GS8]

Fat crack heads are such a mind fuck to me.

Moonbeam is just another tool in in the outhouse.

[Soundy]

I've been in Toronto for a few years now and I haven't heard anything bad about Mayor Ford or his policies, well minus this crack stuff. From what I can tell, he seems to be running the city pretty well.

The interviews of him in the Metro newspaper over the years make him sound very logical and intelligent in regards to decision/policy making. Also, the city of Ottawa tried to recruit Mayor Ford to run for office there. Which, leads me to believe he is pretty competent at what he does.

Too bad, because this will probably end his career.

The catch is, the crack thing - ASSUMING it's true - has nothing to do with his policies and how he runs things. I mean, if he was fucking the city up, then yeah, blame it on an altered state... but if he's actually doing good by the city, then ousting him over his personal life seems petulant at best. Kind of like... well, how about voting down a tax change that would be an overall benefit, just because you have a personal beef with the person who brought it in?

Was listening to bits of the Bill Good show this morning, and when he was wrapping up his segment for the day, chatting with his producer, the producer mentioned the Rob Ford story... Bill noted how it had pushed Steven Harper, Mike Duffy and the Senate off the top of the news, to which the producer replied that Harper should send Ford some flowers...

...and I thought, "or a Senate appointment."

Of course, any competent defense attorney could easily make the case that though the person in those stills above LOOKS like Ford, it's not clear enough for positive identification. I've seen criminals get off with better video than that... I've also seen them convicted based on poorer video.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Dude in his position should be freebasing, but I guess he's a "man of the people" and decided to go with the more available crack cocaine.

I don't really care about what drugs someone uses as long as it doesn't effect their ability to take care of their responsibilities.

Prescription drugs can be just as deadly and addictive as illegal drugs so I don't see a point in condemning someone for one over the other or even praising someone over another.

To me, its much more concerning, more so in the US, that someone who openly identifies as an atheist has much more difficulty getting elected to public office while someone who believes in an imaginary being in the sky, a 6000yr old earth, etc can get in no problem.

[Manic!]

The catch is, the crack thing - ASSUMING it's true - has nothing to do with his policies and how he runs things. I mean, if he was fucking the city up, then yeah, blame it on an altered state... but if he's actually doing good by the city, then ousting him over his personal life seems petulant at best.

When your in public office your personal life matters. On top of that he was breaking the law. If your boss found out you were smoking crack would you still have a job?

[westopher]

Judging from the crack head piece of shit I work with, yes unfortunately.:okay:

[ae101]

i rather have this guy then any of the current mayors in bc period

[ilovebacon]

Some people actually think he's doing a great job as a mayor. Smoking crack isn't a big deal. Maybe he only does it to release stress. Not anyone can be a major..
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[Manic!]

Some people actually think he's doing a great job as a mayor. Smoking crack isn't a big deal. Maybe he only does it to release stress. Not anyone can be a major..
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He's doing something that if you or me were caught doing would be sent to jail for. The video could have been easily used to black mail him.

[Soundy]

When your in public office your personal life matters. On top of that he was breaking the law.
Allegedly. Was just watching an item about this on the morning news, in fact, and even the cop on the podium made note of the fact that any charges would have to be proven in court.

If your boss found out you were smoking crack would you still have a job?
He's been accused of a LOT of shit during his term. So far it doesn't seem anything has stuck, at least not sufficiently to cost him his office. And that's the catch: like I said above, it does LOOK like him in those clips... but can it be proven in court that that's him and not someone else?

When you're in public office, your personal life matters ONLY as much as your constituents decide it SHOULD matter. As long as he's doing things IN office that keeps the vast majority of people happy, they'll be a lot more forgiving of what he does OUT of office.

[Soundy]

He's doing something that if you or me were caught doing would be sent to jail for. The video could have been easily used to black mail him.
This latest video looks like something from surveillance cameras, not the original claimed cell-phone video... much less likely someone bent on blackmail would even have access to this video.

[Hurricane]

He's doing something that if you or me were caught doing would be sent to jail for. The video could have been easily used to black mail him.

Can you please refer me to the most recent case where a Canadian was sent to jail for appearing on a video smoking something resembling crack?

Yes, if he was arrested buying/selling or using illegal narcotics on the street, we have a different story.

One thing does not equal the other, and the ability to prosecute someone, makes a HUGE difference.

This is the reason we have a justice system, and while a mayor should be held to a higher standard, I doubt there are any legal grounds to push him out of office at this point.

Additionally, it doesn't really seem like the majority of Toronto is calling for his head.

A guy can go out and get pissed drunk, act stupid - no harm no foul. But if his drug of choice doesn't happen to be alcohol, his career should be taken away from him, he should be shamed publicly, and kicked onto the street.

Just because 'crack' has such a negative stigma associated with it, doesn't mean it couldn't possibly be enjoyed responsibly.

Maybe an extreme viewpoint, but I echo the sentiment, if its not effecting his ability to do his job, it shouldn't be so relevant.

[smoothie.]

Can you please refer me to the most recent case where a Canadian was sent to jail for appearing on a video smoking something resembling crack?

Yes, if he was arrested buying/selling or using illegal narcotics on the street, we have a different story.

One thing does not equal the other, and the ability to prosecute someone, makes a HUGE difference.

This is the reason we have a justice system, and while a mayor should be held to a higher standard, I doubt there are any legal grounds to push him out of office at this point.

Additionally, it doesn't really seem like the majority of Toronto is calling for his head.

A guy can go out and get pissed drunk, act stupid - no harm no foul. But if his drug of choice doesn't happen to be alcohol, his career should be taken away from him, he should be shamed publicly, and kicked onto the street.

Just because 'crack' has such a negative stigma associated with it, doesn't mean it couldn't possibly be enjoyed responsibly.

Maybe an extreme viewpoint, but I echo the sentiment, if its not effecting his ability to do his job, it shouldn't be so relevant.

Have you seen his list of fuck ups? LOL
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[Everymans]

Why do bike lanes piss you guys off so friggen much? Not attuned to change or something? I'm a big mayor moonbeam fan. All you guys seem to focus on is the friggen bike lanes, most of which have hardly ruined traffic in this city. And the viaducts being torn down is the result of the years of complaints of the strathcona residence. The public in the area is highly in favor of getting rid of them, and adding more bike lanes as well. Why the beef?

[Soundy]

Why do bike lanes piss you guys off so friggen much? Not attuned to change or something?
Because they're slapped in with little consultation, and apparently little thought of traffic flow? Because they fuck up traffic for tens of thousands of drivers for the benefit of a few dozen cyclists, most of whom only ride six months out of the year?

I don't think anyone here has an issue with bike lanes, or bikes in general (except for idiots like Critical Mass and bike couriers)... it's Vancouver's implementation of them specifically that drives people nuts.

I'm a big mayor moonbeam fan. All you guys seem to focus on is the friggen bike lanes, most of which have hardly ruined traffic in this city.
Okay, how about other retardedness like backyard chickens and front lawn wheat fields IN THE FUCKING CITY. I wonder how many of the people who were convinced to grow wheat in their front yards, realized they would have to actually do some work to HARVEST it if it was to be used for anything other than a layer of hay to keep the snow from hitting the ground in the winter?

And the viaducts being torn down is the result of the years of complaints of the strathcona residence.
Just wait until the hear the complaints from the residents around all the other access routes to downtown, when all that traffic is crawling through their neighborhoods.

But of course, this appears to be typical of Vision: cow-tow to one group whining for something without looking far enough ahead to see how it's going to affect a couple dozen other groups.

[Tapioca]

Why do bike lanes piss you guys off so friggen much? Not attuned to change or something? I'm a big mayor moonbeam fan. All you guys seem to focus on is the friggen bike lanes, most of which have hardly ruined traffic in this city. And the viaducts being torn down is the result of the years of complaints of the strathcona residence. The public in the area is highly in favor of getting rid of them, and adding more bike lanes as well. Why the beef?

I don't know if you're trolling or not, but here goes...

This is a car enthusiast website where people have a huge attachment to heir cars. If someone in power does something that in anyway affects their ability to enjoy something people are attached to, then people here will naturally be upset. I've worked downtown for the last 8 years and have commuted by public transit and by car. Sure the bike lanes are an annoyance, but they're a very minor one. The bike lanes, for me anyway, actually make it very tempting for me to commute by bike.

The problem is that bike lanes have been framed as a "war on cars". They shouldn't be. Bike lanes aren't taking away your right to drive. Even if you razed every house and warehouse on Prior and built a freeway into downtown, the traffic problems still wouldn't be solved. In fact, traffic along Prior moves pretty well; it's just that once you get into the core that traffic becomes an issue.
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[Tapioca]

Because they're slapped in with little consultation, and apparently little thought of traffic flow? Because they fuck up traffic for tens of thousands of drivers for the benefit of a few dozen cyclists, most of whom only ride six months out of the year?



I drive along the viaduct every morning and to be fair, a lot of people use the Dunsmir bike lane. Honestly, traffic is not that bad into downtown; IMHO pedestrians with IPods who jaywalk and don't pay attention to signals are a bigger cause of traffic problems than bike lanes.
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[7seven]

Also the businesses and residents directly around the bike lanes have been opposed to them as it has harmed their businesses. There is currently a battle brewing in Kits, with the point grey bike lane (already rammed through) and the bike lane they want to put right through Kits beach park land when there is absolutely no need for it and a majority of the residents against it. Spending millions on snow clearing equipment for the bike lanes is just the dumbest thing I've heard of also from Gregory. Mayor Ford at least had the sense to rip out some of the bike lanes in Toronto that were fucking up traffic and harming businesses bottom line.

[7seven]

I drive along the viaduct every morning and to be fair, a lot of people use the Dunsmir bike lane. Honestly, traffic is not that bad into downtown; IMHO pedestrians with IPods who jaywalk and don't pay attention to signals are a bigger cause of traffic problems than bike lanes.
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My office looks straight down Dunsmuir St and bike lane, I also drive it daily into downtown. Yes in the Summer months, for 2 or 3 months, there are a decent amount of users, however the majority of the year and Vancouver weather, there aren't many.

The major problem of putting a bike lane on Dunsmuir is that it was absolutely the worst street to do so on. Dunsmuir is used by delivery trucks, garbage trucks and taxis (that stop in front of the St. Regis hotel, since there is a valet and taxi pickup zone there), to service the businesses and offices there. When these vehicles stop they have no parking lane or side lane to pull into, so that effectively turns a major busy artery into downtown Vancouver into a one lane disaster, I witness this everyday. Multiple times a day I see garbage and delivery trucks that have to stop dead in the middle of one lane, then pull into the other lane, block both lanes and flow of traffic, so they can reverse into alleys to service businesses. Add in that there are major parking restrictions and spots for these businesses on Dunsmuir, it is just the worst street to place bike lanes in.

[PeanutButter]

Mayor Ford is fiscally responsible. He saved the city $248 million dollars in 2012($248-million surplus ?positive proof? of Ford?s cost-cutting, budget chair says - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/248-million-surplus-positive-proof-of-fords-cost-cutting-budget-chair-says/article12338434/)).

If I were a resident of Toronto, I could care less that he smoked crack a few times/recreationally. His policies and decisions in office are great. I would over look this if it meant saving our city money.

And i'm pretty sure he won't be able to get away with, "nah, that wasn't me in those videos/pictures". He'll probably have to admit it was him and just take the heat for it. Whether he'll still keep his position as mayor is still up in the air. I can't see him keeping it though, he will surely need to resign after this, unfortunately.

[dinosaur]

If I were a resident of Toronto, I could care less that he smoked crack a few times/recreationally. His policies and decisions in office are great. I would over look this if it meant saving our city money.



So, you are cool using your tax dollars to pay a crackhead to run your city?

Is there a crackhead spectrum we should be referencing to know when it IS time to give him the boot? Like....1-2 times a week is cool, but 4-5 is not. What about when his hands start to shake? His gait changes? When does he transition from mayor/crackhead to crackhead/mayor. Like, for realz?!

There has to be a fucking standard here...that base standard should be "Looking for a Mayor who isn't smoking a crack pipe".

On the surface shit may look legit....but no crackhead can functionally run a city...give it a bit, I am sure shit will begin to surface. I'd like to see his allowances and write-offs, etc.

[PeanutButter]

^Well considering he saved the city $250 million, one could argue that he's earned his salary?

I agree though, if he's a crack head, he probably shouldn't be running the city. Though, if he was a crack head i'm sure people would notice. He's in the media daily and i'm sure his family would notice. That being said, I don't think he's a crack head. He probably just goes on benders once in awhile? Or he just tried it once? I don't know. If he's coming to work and doing his job, I could care less what he does in his spare time. And yes, I agree this looks pretty bad for the city, but I mean there are worse things that could be going on. At the end of the day, if the powers at be are saving my family money by not increasing taxes, I would be happy.

You would be surprised how many doctors do hard drugs in Vancouver. And these people take care of the most vulnerable people... Just because you do drugs in your spare time doesn't mean you can't do your job properly. That's my opinion anyway.

[Bouncing Bettys]

I would argue that a crackhead is as capable of governing as a religious fundamentalist. You don't often see politicians being taking to task for believing the earth is 6000 years old, dinosaurs shared the earth with humans, an ark containing every species on the planet surviving a worldwide flood, etc. They are openly batshit crazy.

[Soundy]

So now a couple hits on the pipe automatically makes one a "crackhead"? Going out late one night getting high doesn't always equate to being butt-fucking stoned while at workl. And when's the last time you saw a 350lb crackhead? Dude looks he probably ATE a couple crackheads for breakfast.

And BTW, just reminder, everything so far is just ALLEGATIONS. So far he hasn't even been charged with anything crack-related, let alone convicted. There are videos showing someone who LOOKS like Mr. Mayor, APPEARING to take a hit from a crack-type pipe, which may or may not actually contain crack.

[- kT]

just because somebody (allegedly) smokes crack, does not automatically make them a crackhead. some of you sometimes..
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[Bouncing Bettys]

It's likey he did smoke crack but I've seen nothing to indicate an addiction or a negative effect on his responsibilities as mayor.

There is no concrete evidence to explain why some people have addictive personalities and why some don't. For many, they find out which personality they are through drug experimentation. Sometimes once is enough to set you down a destructive path. I've dabble enough in the drug culture (never crack) to know I don't have an addictive personality.
I was very fortunate in that sense. People can go on about personal responsibility (in a society where we feel it necessary to legislate common sense) but walking a mile in a man's shoes isn't always going to give the whole picture. There are just too many variables for me to judge someone for ending up an addict. Sure some decisions amount to playing with fire but we wouldn't be human if we didn't.

[Manic!]

It's likey he did smoke crack but I've seen nothing to indicate an addiction or a negative effect on his responsibilities as mayor.




Really?

A chronology of controversies involving Rob Ford | CP24.com (http://www.cp24.com/news/ford/a-chronology-of-controversies-involving-rob-ford-1.1522248)

How does he even have time to be mayor with all those scandals going on.

[Soundy]

Waiting for the announcement from the police that they've figured out the whole "smoking crack" thing was a fully orchestrated publicity stunt by Ford, just to get everyone riled up...

[Gridlock]

So now a couple hits on the pipe automatically makes one a "crackhead"? Going out late one night getting high doesn't always equate to being butt-fucking stoned while at workl. And when's the last time you saw a 350lb crackhead? Dude looks he probably ATE a couple crackheads for breakfast.

And BTW, just reminder, everything so far is just ALLEGATIONS. So far he hasn't even been charged with anything crack-related, let alone convicted. There are videos showing someone who LOOKS like Mr. Mayor, APPEARING to take a hit from a crack-type pipe, which may or may not actually contain crack.

Thank you!

At best he is a crack enthusiast.

[Soundy]

So, you are cool using your tax dollars to pay a crackhead to run your city?

Is there a crackhead spectrum we should be referencing to know when it IS time to give him the boot? Like....1-2 times a week is cool, but 4-5 is not. What about when his hands start to shake? His gait changes? When does he transition from mayor/crackhead to crackhead/mayor. Like, for realz?!

There has to be a fucking standard here...that base standard should be "Looking for a Mayor who isn't smoking a crack pipe".

On the surface shit may look legit....but no crackhead can functionally run a city...give it a bit, I am sure shit will begin to surface. I'd like to see his allowances and write-offs, etc.

Thank you!

At best he is a crack enthusiast.

This must be an interesting time in the DinoGrid household... :troll:

[dinosaur]

oh, people, come on.

"Crackhead" was tongue in cheek...

Although, it now begs the question: what is the difference between a crack user and a crackhead?

[Gridlock]

oh, people, come on.

"Crackhead" was tongue in cheek...

Although, it now begs the question: what is the difference between a crack user and a crackhead?

A mouthful of teeth.

[Hurricane]

oh, people, come on.

"Crackhead" was tongue in cheek...

Although, it now begs the question: what is the difference between a crack user and a crackhead?

The same as someone who spends his entire welfare check on ricewine and mouthwash to get blind drunk all the time, and someone who has a few glasses of wine with dinner.

[Gridlock]

The same as someone who spends his entire welfare check on ricewine and mouthwash to get blind drunk all the time, and someone who has a few glasses of wine with dinner.

Really?

So there is a "legitimate" use of crack cocaine? Like, a little is ok, but I don't know, if you were to say use your influence as mayor of a city to procure more, that would be too far?

[Soundy]

Influence is never needed to get narcotics... only cash.

[Energy]

And sometimes influence makes it harder to get narcotics because you have an image to maintain and are under public scrutiny.

[dinosaur]

Do I reeeeeally think this guy is a crackhead? Mo. Do I really think this guy is going any crack at all? Actually, no.

I feel there is so much more than what we know right now...the packages, the drop offs and pick ups, knowing shady people, the gas station and laundromat exchanges, etc....all fucking weird.

I'll give y'all one word (actually, two): Gus Fring.

My money is on him being one of T.dot's biggest crack dealers.

[Phuck Yu]

ROB FORD FOR PM

[Gridlock]

I'll give y'all one word (actually, two): Gus Fring.



You think he's a closeted homosexual that cooks some kick ass fried chicken?

Strangers things have happened.

[ae101]

u guys remember Ralph klein, he was hell of a alcholic but he did a pretty good job with alberta lol
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[Soundy]

u guys remember Ralph klein, he was hell of a alcholic but he did a pretty good job with alberta lol
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Ya know, this is the thing: even if he was a total fucked-up crackhead, alcoholic, raving maniac looney tune... if he can go into city hall, sit behind his desk, and do shit that makes my city a better place and saves a shitload of my tax dollars doing it, then who the fuck am I to judge?

Plenty of towns, provinces, states, and even countries have been run into the ground by tight-assed, clean-living, baby-kissing, brown-nosing politicians who said and did all the right things and looked real good to everyone, who didn't have a clue about what they were actually doing.

I'm assuming everyone here has seen this classic before:

It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates.

Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.

Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.

Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.

Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler.

[Traum]

Nothing new of value (and nothing really of news value either), but the the animation totally cracks me up...

Rob Ford's crack smoking video finally found by police! - YouTube

[impactX]

Talk about OP missing the point and derailing this thread right from the start. Then I went back and read the actual article and found out that it's about Ford's alleged continuous and intricate association with alleged drug trafficker.

It's interesting how Bill Blair called Ford out on this. If the police is really going to recommend charges against Ford, they would not have released this much details to the public. I wonder what's Blair's motive in all of these.

[Soundy]

Just listening to the morning news, Doug Ford is now saying Blair released the video clip because he has a personal axe to grind with his brother, and should step down as a police chief.

This is turning into an all-out soap opera...
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[Gridlock]

Soap opera is one part.

Major bloody distraction is another. Cast a little disbelief the police chief's way.

When does Toronto have its election again?

[CRS]

Soap opera is one part.

Major bloody distraction is another. Cast a little disbelief the police chief's way.

When does Toronto have its election again?

Oct 2014

[sonick]

#Breaking: Rob Ford tells reporters: Yes I have smoked crack cocaine.

[Sid Vicious]

i dont care about him smoking crack, i just find it hypocritical that he is getting away scott free while many people are rotting in jail right now for drug possession. in fact marion barry the mayor of washington dc got busted by the FBI for drug charges

rich white people get away with everything though

[Gridlock]

I respect others choices here, but I personally expect more out of public officials. Regardless of what they achieve IN office, I expect them to conduct themselves appropriately at all times.

That's me.

Now that he has admitted he smoked crack, its time for him to resign. Immediately.

[dinosaur]

rich white people get away with everything though

:fullofwin:

[Manic!]

Rob ford is about to give a live press conference. They will be broadcasting it live on CNN.

[Traum]

At this point, I really don't see how he can not resign from mayorship. Especially when it comes to the blatant lying (repeated denial of cocaine use when media had asked him in the past) and the trying to brush it off as "you guys weren't asking the right questions".

Then again, he should have resigned back when his photos with the alleged drug dealer first surfaced months ago. So nothing could really surprise me now.

[Hondaracer]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sniperslayer/DE3DF6D9-DE21-43A3-97C2-1C7A21915438-16967-00000AD6AFA59197_zps6180c1a8.jpg
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[Spoon]

'Yes, I have smoked crack cocaine,' says Toronto Mayor Rob Ford - BNN News (http://www.bnn.ca/News/2013/11/05/Yes-I-have-smoked-crack-cocaine-says-Mayor-Rob-Ford.aspx)

Not stepping down. :lol

[Hondaracer]

Like Putin, gotta admire a guy who stands by his actions lol
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[westopher]

It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates.

Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.

Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.

Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.


Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler.
I find it hilarious that I picked B with out ever having heard of any of this before. I like my leaders to have a little fucking personality.

[Gridlock]

Regardless of anyone's feelings on the actual crack use vs anything else, the main main reason people step down at a time like this is to respect the office.

When you hold on too long, it becomes less about being mayor and more about responding to allegation after allegation.

It's time to go.

[Soundy]

i dont care about him smoking crack, i just find it hypocritical that he is getting away scott free while many people are rotting in jail right now for drug possession. in fact marion barry the mayor of washington dc got busted by the FBI for drug charges

rich white people get away with everything though

Well assuming we take him at his word here, that he did it ONCE when he was already sloshed... that's not necessarily possession, is it? You're at a party, you're gooned, someone starts passing a pipe, and you take a hit... not a felony in and of itself.

Goes back to the previous definitions of a user vs. an addict.

[Soundy]

Regardless of anyone's feelings on the actual crack use vs anything else, the main main reason people step down at a time like this is to respect the office.

When you hold on too long, it becomes less about being mayor and more about responding to allegation after allegation.

It's time to go.

I don't know anything about the politics or contenders for the mayor's seat in Toronto, but I think if I were there, and this guy was doing a good job DESPITE HIS PERSONAL LIFE, I might be leery about that, especially if the next guy in line was a Mayor Moonbeam type of dipshit.

Let's face it, politics at ANY level these days is pretty much down to a lesser-of-the-two-evils type of game. If it comes down to someone who's fucked up at home but will look after my concerns and do well by them when he's at work... or some clean-living, self-righteous douche who's going to run my city/province/country into the ground... I'm generally in favour of the former.

[Gridlock]

No I get that.

BUT

Everyone knows. So whether he's sitting across from a union official, or someone on his own staff...staff by the way that went through a pretty large amount of resignations if I remember correctly...they all know the deal.

And its legal involvement. RCMP tossing the mayors office. Possible arrests. What elese comes out? Now he's trying to get the chief of police to resign.

It ALL serves to distract us from the real issue.

Serving Toronto.

[Tapioca]

Let's face it, politics at ANY level these days is pretty much down to a lesser-of-the-two-evils type of game. If it comes down to someone who's fucked up at home but will look after my concerns and do well by them when he's at work... or some clean-living, self-righteous douche who's going to run my city/province/country into the ground... I'm generally in favour of the former.

Why can't we just have reasonable people run for office? Sure, Rob Ford may have done some things right, but he comes off as a douche as much as Gregor does. A night on the town and getting carried away is one thing, but look at everything that he has been accused of: smoking crack, grabbing a woman's ass in public, using his cellphone while driving, using city letterhead to solicit donations for a personal charity, and the list goes on. This isn't the first time he has been accused of impropriety - this allegation is just one in a list of bad things. Sure, the Toronto Star has a beef with him (he's fat, he's white, he hails from the former suburbs of Toronto, and he represents everything that the Toronto Star and its readership is not), but how much tolerance should the public allow?

No one is perfect, but a guy who has gotten to where he is should be smarter or he should spend some money and hire the best PR managers money can buy.

It's shitty that politicians should be held up to a higher standard, but that's part of the job these days. Why can't there be more Diane Watts running for office?

[Hondaracer]

Because the vast majority if people in office are there for financial gain and not to actually move the country/city forward

Look at all the MP's, I guarantee you you could find thousands of poli science students who live for that type of shit, who would take 65-80k a year and just love life being an MP. The vast majority of them however are there only for personal gain and their individual triumphs are just to get to a pension status and gather connections for life out of office. How many high ranking politicians end up with the premium private sector jobs once they leave? Gee wonder how they got there

The whole system is -fucked-

Also has I've posted and others as well, sure he smoked crack and other transgressions but my two friends who work in wealth management in TO and the vast majority of their colleagues say if it wasn't such a sideshow constantly they would for sure be voting for ford in the next election.
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[dyan]

http://i.imgur.com/gpjpt9r.jpg

[westopher]

I think the biggest problem for his career here is he told an out in the open blatant lie. I mean we all know politicians are generally famous for bending the truth, but he lied with a yes or no question, then admitted it. People won't forgive and forget that. Although if he came to Vancouver I'd vote for the crack smoking drunk misogynist over that know it all tree fucker moonbeam.

[Soundy]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1462970_10151940471687808_175839508_n.jpg

[multicartual]

Because the vast majority if people in office are there for financial gain and not to actually move the country/city forward
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Ding ding ding

[MR_BIGGS]

Would he lose his severance if he stepped down? There's too much at stake financially for politicians and public servants in high positions to do the morally right thing. :badpokerface:

[Bouncing Bettys]

Stigma of crack use is worse than that appllied to people in power who use their influence to benefit their friends for short term profits at the expense of society. Got it. :rukidding:

Guy does his job, the voters like the job he's done. Throw him out!

[Soundy]

Also has I've posted and others as well, sure he smoked crack and other transgressions but my two friends who work in wealth management in TO and the vast majority of their colleagues say if it wasn't such a sideshow constantly they would for sure be voting for ford in the next election.
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Of course, haters and media outlets have NOTHING to with continually perpetuating that sideshow... :badpokerface:

[Soundy]

I guess Gregor wanted some of the limelight for himself...

http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/810/2803954896.jpg (http://easycaptures.com/2803954896)
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[murd0c]

How to Tell if Your Mayor is Smoking Crack - YouTube

[sonick]

Hahaha awesome 39 Breathtaking Photos of North America's Most Photogenic Mayor (http://gawker.com/39-breathtaking-photos-of-north-americas-most-photogen-1458983349)

[Manic!]

CRACK REMIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DJ Steve Porter - Rob Ford Crack Remix - YouTube

[blum2001]

One hell of a rant. Just keeps getting better.

Rob Ford caught in video rant | Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/07/mayor_rob_ford_caught_in_video_rant.html)

[Tapioca]

There is an underlying brilliance to Rob Ford's about-face. People tend to feel empathy for people who come clean and admit mistakes. I think this will blow over because quite frankly, there are a lot of people who see a bit of themselves in Rob Ford - closet alcoholism, rants filled with profanity, etc.
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[quasi]

Like they said on Team 1040, could you imagine the Saturday Night Gold if Chris Farley was still alive?

[Hondaracer]

That rant will obviously be hugely overblown but to me it just seems like he's loaded and talking about fighting a UFC fighter or a wrestler or somthing not like plans to kill Somone lol
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[Soundy]

Anthony Floyd @AnthonyFloyd
Um, interesting. CBC Radio news leaves "fuck" in #rofo's tirade, but bleeps out "motherfucker". #OhTheresTheLine

:badpokerface:

[Soundy]

:lawl: :lawl:

http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/811/7972529746.jpg (http://easycaptures.com/7972529746)
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:megusta:

[trancehead]

how could anyone possibily stay mad at a guy who looks like this

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/195g1udc4jhwngif/ku-xlarge.gif

[Xu.Vi]

'Embarrassing' video surfaces of angry Toronto mayor Rob Ford threatening to kill someone (http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/video+surfaces+showing+Toronto+Mayor+Ford+using+th reatening+words/9138294/story.html)

Once again...LOL

[Drow]

the media needs to lay off the poor guy

he can smoke all the crack he wants as long as does his job - and does it well

i duno much abt the guy but from what ive heard hes actually a good mayor...

society needs to stop being so butthurt over this guy.

[Hondaracer]

Over under he commits suicide at the end of it all
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[Manic!]

the media needs to lay off the poor guy

he can smoke all the crack he wants as long as does his job - and does it well

i duno much abt the guy but from what ive heard hes actually a good mayor...

society needs to stop being so butthurt over this guy.

How can you be a good mayor when you are smoking crack? What if something major happened while he was cracked out?

[ilovebacon]

I am pretty sure he is smart enough to not smoke crack while on the job..
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[Manic!]

I am pretty sure he is smart enough to not smoke crack while on the job..
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As mayor you are on call 24/7.

[mikemhg]

As mayor you are on call 24/7.

You love posting these square comments in Drug threads huh? You were spewing this same kind of garbage in the Marijuana legalization thread.

So what, you're saying this guy can't get drunk on his own time either? Get a life.

[Soundy]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1450725_10201792189742393_1675268773_n.jpg

[Manic!]

You love posting these square comments in Drug threads huh? You were spewing this same kind of garbage in the Marijuana legalization thread.

So what, you're saying this guy can't get drunk on his own time either? Get a life.

When did I post garbage in a Marijuana thread?

The dude hangs around known criminals, gang members, is a alcoholic, and smoked crack. Getting drunk on your own time is one thing but being drunk at city hall is another. The dudes toast.

City hall security describes a drunk Ford on St. Patrick?s Day last year | CityNews (http://www.citynews.ca/2013/11/01/city-hall-security-describes-a-drunk-ford-on-st-patricks-day-last-year-2/)

[quasi]

I am pretty sure he is smart enough to not smoke crack while on the job..
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Really? I'm pretty sure he's not. It's not like he's doing it in his home away from prying eyes, the guy is mayor and dumb enough to get filmed smoking it, what makes you think he hasn't/won't do it when on the job?

[ae101]

the problem is hes got a crazy personal life, yet hes doing one heck of job being a good mayor & im betting that hes better then most of the mayors in canada (aleast better then most of them in bc)

not sure about u guys but my dad has mix.feelings for.this guy, while i support him all the way just like ralph kein
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[Manic!]

I'm DJing a party in Nanaimo right now and the mayor did a speech. he made a Rob Ford fat joke.

[bloodmack]

takes new meaning to "you smokin crack?"..

[Drow]

How can you be a good mayor when you are smoking crack? What if something major happened while he was cracked out?

If he let crack negatively influence his responsibilities then he would be a bad mayor.

I admit i havent done much research into how hes doing as mayor but ive heard nothing but good things. All the news outlets have only been ripping on his bad habits, getting drunk, or using provocative language but hey as long as he gets the job done he can be smoking crack live on national television for all i care.

[twdm]

^agreed. Most people get their panties all tied up in a knot about his drug habits when it clearly has not affected his job performance.

Rather have a crackhead competent mayor than hippie, bike lane loving Gregor Robertson.
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[parm104]

If he let crack negatively influence his responsibilities then he would be a bad mayor.

I admit i havent done much research into how hes doing as mayor but ive heard nothing but good things. All the news outlets have only been ripping on his bad habits, getting drunk, or using provocative language but hey as long as he gets the job done he can be smoking crack live on national television for all i care.

There's more to a public position of authority than simply getting the job done. Although a competent mayor is applaud-able, a respectable mayor that we can be proud of having elected into office is equally as important. He is a chosen representative of one of our nation's more influential cities and the whole world has their eyes on him. His actions, reputation and demeanor have made the City of Toronto a laughing stock but also he has made a mockery of Canadian politics.

A rebuttal will most likely be that no country is perfect and you will always find elected officials that are corrupt, have made poor personal decisions, etc. Although that has truth to it, it does not stop the rest of the world from judging us and it certainly doesn't mean that because other countries have shitty politicians that we can too.

[melloman]

Anybody ever wonder what would've happened if this never came to light?

Rob Ford would still be able to enjoy his recreational habits (whatever they are) and he'd still be a good fucking mayor. Ofcourse if his personal life and his career start to overlap, there would be issues. But this is just the media "doing their job" and prying into peoples lives.

I find it harsh that just because you move into a position of power, your personal life now gets to be scrutinized by everyone. The "media" will go into your past and dig up anything that seems like it could be news worthy. Realistically without the media consistently prying and trying to get something out of him. He probably would've never admitted to smoking crack.

To me this situation is exactly like a closed door police interrogation. Where they just poke and prod at you, to try and get answers out of you.

[Traum]

It's exactly as melloman says -- the media is simply exercising its powers as the "4th branch of government" so to speak. It is doing its job to keep the other 3 branches in check.

[Soundy]

The "media" will go into your past and dig up anything that seems like it could be news worthy.
I always believed that anyone who thinks they have some God-given right or even obligation to do this, should first be subject to it themselves.

I want to start my own tabloid, whose content consists entirely on digging out every possible skeleton from the closets (or wherever) of the editors, publishers, reporters, and paparazzi who work for all the other tabloids. After all, their constant mantra is, "everybody has the right to know everything about everyone" - well, that includes you, dirtbag.

Don Henley - Dirty Laundry - YouTube

The biggest irony (or is it hypocrisy? or both?) is, how many of those calling for Ford's job because he did an illegal drug, have had a little puff-puff on their personal time? Because that's illegal too, despite being more widely accepted. By this logic, though, they should lose their jobs as well, regardless of whether it affects their work performance.

[Traum]

I always believed that anyone who thinks they have some God-given right or even obligation to do this, should first be subject to it themselves.
...
The biggest irony (or is it hypocrisy? or both?) is, how many of those calling for Ford's job because he did an illegal drug, have had a little puff-puff on their personal time? Because that's illegal too, despite being more widely accepted. By this logic, though, they should lose their jobs as well, regardless of whether it affects their work performance.
The difference is, with Ford being in office, a lot of stuff he does in his private life can lead to direct consequences in his work, and his work at the city hall has everything to do with public interest. When a person runs for public office, he is knowingly subjecting himself to this, and essentially accepts that certain parts of his private life will be subjected to public scrutiny.

On the other hand, with you, me, or any other average Joes out there, the overwhelming majority of stuff we do has nothing to do with public interest, so we are entitled to more personal privacy than public figures such as Mr. Ford.

Certainly you should be able to grasp and understand this simple concept?

[Soundy]

The difference is, with Ford being in office, a lot of stuff he does in his private life can lead to direct consequences in his work, and his work at the city hall has everything to do with public interest. When a person runs for public office, he is knowingly subjecting himself to this, and essentially accepts that certain parts of his private life will be subjected to public scrutiny.

On the other hand, with you, me, or any other average Joes out there, the overwhelming majority of stuff we do has nothing to do with public interest, so we are entitled to more personal privacy than public figures such as Mr. Ford.

Certainly you should be able to grasp and understand this simple concept?
I grasp the CONCEPT, but I think it's WAY overblown and abused.

[freakshow]

I grasp the CONCEPT, but I think it's WAY overblown and abused.
I would rather have Ford that Robertson, but I also don't think that it's overblown or abused to call for the resignation of a crack smoking mayor.
"It's ok to break the law and do cocaine" isn't exactly the message I would want to be sent to kids.. or anyone really.

[Traum]

If I were a Torontonian, prior to the crack cocaine alligations, I would mostly be embarrassed by the stupid hijinks that the media has dug up, and the resulting temper tantrums that Ford threw. The reading newspaper while driving incident pissed me off, and I think the police should have done something (say, investigate and/or fine him as necessary). But overall, I wouldn't have been too concern.

The crack cocaine allegations, on the other hand, are way too much to swallow. Cocaine is not marijuana, and its negative effects on a person are very well known. It isn't quite as bad as heroine, but if a mayor is addicted and dependent on this illegal substance, it is entirely conceivable that the drug dealer supplying this substance to the mayor is now in a position of power over the mayor. Is that something any sane citizen would find acceptable? Drug dealers don't operate on an individual level either -- there is always a network behind them, and this is organized crime we are talking about. Do we want some drug lord or criminal king pin calling the shots in Canada's biggest and most prosperous, instead of having an elected mayor that serves the city and its residents?

As some of the Toronto councillors have said, at a minimum, Mr. Ford needs to take a leave of absence to sort out his illicit substance problem, and to give the Toronto City Hall a chance to re-gain its trust from the public. Ideally, he should resign as an act of responsibility. By continuing to stay in office, he is damaging the Toronto City Hall's image and credibility. The allegations will not easily die down, and that will distract the municipal government from continuing with its usual businesses and operations.

[Hondaracer]

I'll take a crack smoking ford over a public money stealing clown like Brassaue, Duffy, or Wallin 10 times out of 10
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[Tapioca]

Regardless of where you stand politically, anyone caught doing drugs or under the influence of drugs, or going into work drunk would be fired on the spot by any organization. Even offensive Tweets and pictures on Facebook get people fired. Why should any politician, regardless of what he/she has done, be held to a different standard? Because he's fighting the good fight and sticking it to the hippies?
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[PeanutButter]

AFAIK, he was never caught going into work drunk/high. Likewise, I do not think doing drugs during his personal time constitutes grounds for dismissal.

Also, because he is Mayor he is held to a different standard, one can't just fire him. The only way he can get fired or get thrown out is if he is convicted of a crime and actually serves time in jail OR his cabinet resigns, which would force a bi-election. He can't just be fired, i'm not sure about other political positions though.

[pastarocket]

Wow, the Rob Ford story keeps getting better. Apparently, he had two women in his office who are suspected to be prostitutes.

-smoking crack and banging ho's! A St. Patrick's Day celebration for the mayor.

Court docs suggest Mayor Ford had prostitutes in his office | News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2013/11/13/court-documents-suggest-mayor-ford-had-prostitutes-in-his-office/)

[Tapioca]

AFAIK, he was never caught going into work drunk/high. Likewise, I do not think doing drugs during his personal time constitutes grounds for dismissal.

Also, because he is Mayor he is held to a different standard, one can't just fire him. The only way he can get fired or get thrown out is if he is convicted of a crime and actually serves time in jail OR his cabinet resigns, which would force a bi-election. He can't just be fired, i'm not sure about other political positions though.

The jury is out on whether or not he was drunk or high on the job, but there is enough evidence to suggest that he has been drunk at after-hours functions while representing the city as its mayor. If you're the CEO of a company and you're out there representing that company at some after office hours function, if you're caught doing something inappropriate like grabbing a woman's ass (which Ford did), I think it would be safe to assume that he would be forced to take a leave of absence, accept a demotion, or be fired. If you entertain clients after hours and say things that are inappropriate (such as badmouthing your boss, or perhaps talking about people in the industry), if the word ever got out, you would be fired. I highly doubt you could rely on excessive drunkenness as an excuse.

The mayor is held to a different standard - a higher one. It's what politicians should understand when they take office - you lose your privacy. If he can't keep off the bottle and can't smoke crack privately, then he should find a new profession that allows him to pursue those activities quietly.
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[Manic!]

I'll take a crack smoking ford over a public money stealing clown like Brassaue, Duffy, or Wallin 10 times out of 10
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So you would rather be bunched in the face than in the stomach. good to know. I choose none of the above.

[4444]

why are politicians such fucking retards?

i'm going to totally contradict myself, but...

why can't we have CEOs going into politics, people who have shown they can run a large company, think on their feet, be a good social citizen (that wipes out 90% of CEOs), etc. I would hope it's not just about money (how many years at $10M in total compensation does a CEO of a pubco need?).

on that note, mayor moonbeam was a CEO of juicy hippy planet, and i think he's a royal douche (putting forward his own interest at the expense of the majority, really pushing this green thing that is nothing more than a name, and then ironically going on trips to china to drum up trade - i'm sorry, but a) isn't that a provincial/federal issue, and b) make your city a 'green' city, do trade with the biggest polluters around (not judging china, they're going through an economic revolution, just stating a fact))

this whole rob ford thing is just ridiculous, i'm surprised there isn't some ethics guidance he has to sign when he takes public office (remember, this is public office, so if 95% or however many ppl in TO government want him to take a leave, shouldn't that say to him that the 'people' have spoken?) - i'm sure i signed something when i joined my company, and showing up and acting like he has done would get me fired in a heartbeat.

total BS, a waste of news space, he needs to quite his job, go and get help, and then use his 'position' to help others with substance abuse issues. so sick of moonbeam, corrupt montreal politicians, rob ford - these people are all inept.

[ae101]

^
i guess u dont know about the 250 million he saved on tax dollars for TO & how he doing a.great job as mayor in the city

never judge a book by its cover, this guy looks like a sleezy ball from an episode of a itialian mafia show & i would have never known all the great things hes done if it was not for this incident
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[4444]

^
i guess u dont know about the 250 million he saved on tax dollars for TO & how he doing a.great job as mayor in the city

never judge a book by its cover, this guy looks like a sleezy ball from an episode of a itialian mafia show & i would have never known all the great things hes done if it was not for this incident
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while i appreciate that he is actually an ok mayor, that's not really the point. the irony is, moonbeam does shit, yet he's the sparkle in the eyes of all the koolaid drinking douche bags in vancouver.

this level of rob ford's retarded behaviour wouldn't stand in the corporate world, why should we, the people who vote in and pay for these muppets, put up with a lower bar than shareholders?

[PeanutButter]

Rob Ford is messed. Here's an interview of him talking about eating female lady parts

(not sure how to embed this)
http://deadspin.com/rob-ford-denies-eating-pussy-during-live-televised-p-1464353838

[Soundy]

News1130 @News1130radio
RT @cityfrancis: #BREAKING @TOMayorFord about to make an announcement. His mom and wife will be with him. #TOpoli

I'm waiting to hear that he's announcing his dictatorship and is firing the entire council. :fuckyea:

[sonick]

I would never do that. I'm happily married. I've got more than enough to eat at home.


:lawl:

[Traum]

^^ Agreed...

Here is another version of the video, with a bit more stuff before what will now surely become an infamous quote:

Rob Ford's oral sex comments draw ire of colleagues - Toronto - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-s-oral-sex-comments-draw-ire-of-colleagues-1.2426402)

"Oh and the last thing was, um, Olivia Gondek. It says that I wanted to eat her p---y. Olivia Gondek, I've never said that in my life to her. I would never do that," he said, in comments that were broadcast live on television. "I'm happily married — I've got more than enough to eat at home."

:lawl::fulloffuck::facepalm:

I am simply beyond words. All I can think of is that I am so thankful I am not his media / public relations officer...

At this point, I almost don't want him to resign now. The entertainment value that he is providing is far outweighing all the negatives that he has caused Toronto... :troll:

[Soundy]

^This is a big part of it: people are tired of stuffy, backstabbing, back-pedalling, pandering, smarmy-faced politicians. I guarantee you every single voter anywhere in the country at some point has wanted to bitchslap an elected official for bending over to some special interest group or other such namby-pamby shit... this guy just has no filter and says things that we've all thought from time to time. The guy is the dictionary picture of a hot mess, but at least you know where he stands (granted, it's in the gutters encircling the bowels of hell, but still...)

[melloman]

After reading all of this shit... I have come to a conclusion.

Politician =/= Human

Politician = Scripted Robot.

/end. :accepted:

[pastarocket]

Anybody got pictures of the two women that were allegedly with crackhead Ford on St. Patrick's Day? :)

[Sid Vicious]

^^ Agreed...

Here is another version of the video, with a bit more stuff before what will now surely become an infamous quote:

Rob Ford's oral sex comments draw ire of colleagues - Toronto - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-s-oral-sex-comments-draw-ire-of-colleagues-1.2426402)



:lawl::fulloffuck::facepalm:

I am simply beyond words. All I can think of is that I am so thankful I am not his media / public relations officer...

At this point, I almost don't want him to resign now. The entertainment value that he is providing is far outweighing all the negatives that he has caused Toronto... :troll:

man fucking one of the councilors said he was "disgusted" by the comments

grow the fuck up, people have sex...can't believe this is even an issue

political correctness is the cancer killing canadian society

[pastarocket]

-sounds like Ford has Charlie Sheen's support based on this tweet:

Charlie Sheen @CharlieSheen
14th November 2013 from Twittelator Pro


dear Mayor Rob Ford,
the only truth or correct reporting in today's
repulsive story regarding
my alleged comments about you,
is the accurate spelling of your great city.
your personal life is and never would be,
any of my business.
I'm sorry for any grief this may have caused.
if I can be of any assistance
in any capacity in this
media cesspool,
please accept the noble offer of my steady
hand and compassionate heart.
respectfully,
charlie sheen.

[PeanutButter]

This is getting crazy! I really hope Rob Ford runs for Mayor in 2014!!!

[trancehead]

LOL at Rob's latest comments. i like him even more now

lets paint him a portrait, and erect him a fucking statue

[Manic!]

Looks like the Bixie bike share program is going bankrupt. Toronto already gave them 3.7 million and will likely lose all that money.

Rob and his brother are also getting a TV show on Sun TV.

[Ludepower]

LMAO Rob Ford. What a mess hes in and keeps digging himself into a bigger hole. I love him even more now. Better than our tree hugging mayor.

[kwy]

this whole rob ford thing has been absolutely comical..larger than life

[N8]

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2013/11/ford_video_20131114_topix2.jpg?w=620&h=450

just had to

[G-spec]

don't know if this reference has been made yet in this thread (probably) but Chris Farley would nail this fckin skit guaranteed if he was still alive



https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1465369_10151981098778446_1330364592_n.jpg

[Soundy]

don't know if this reference has been made yet in this thread (probably) but Chris Farley would nail this fckin skit guaranteed if he was still alive



https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1465369_10151981098778446_1330364592_n.jpg

Yeah, I think it might have been mentioned one or two THOUSAND times now....

[Soundy]

After reading all of this shit... I have come to a conclusion.

Politician =/= Human

Politician = Scripted Robot.

/end. :accepted:

I'm A Politician - YouTube

[GS8]

I'm so sick of hearing about this. Even the 24 hour news channels are all over this. FUCK YOU.

While all this tabloid style journalism pollutes the airwaves, many didn't even notice the deal between Cunty Clark & that Alison Redturd

Christy Clark, Alison Redford Pipeline Agreement Reached (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/05/christy-clark-alison-redford-pipeline-agreement_n_4220510.html)

I hate these harpies

[Ronin]

LOOOL what's so bad about what Ford said? So he's blunt...whatever. It was a great quote. Only prudes would be offended.

[Manic!]

LOOOL what's so bad about what Ford said? So he's blunt...whatever. It was a great quote. Only prudes would be offended.

And anyone with children. You really want this guy hanging around children? The guy has said he has giving money to drug dealers for crack and he hangs out with them. remember this is the same guy who is in charge of the police department. Would anyone here think it would be cool if your mayor hung out with the Bacon brothers or the Hells angles?

For all those people who don't like Mayor Gregor Robertson what have you done about it? How many of you even voted in the last election?

[Ronin]

Oh won't anyone think of the children?

No, I don't think someone that smokes crack should be giving motivational speeches to children but c'mon...there are no kids in the media scrum and it's the parents responsibility to filter what their kids are exposed to and to teach them accordingly.

Rob Ford doesn't have time that...too much crack to smoke.

[Manic!]

Oh won't anyone think of the children?

No, I don't think someone that smokes crack should be giving motivational speeches to children but c'mon...there are no kids in the media scrum and it's the parents responsibility to filter what their kids are exposed to and to teach them accordingly.

Rob Ford doesn't have time that...too much crack to smoke.

A mayor does a lot of public events were kids are at.
Also teach kids not to be like the mayor?

The dude needs to go A.S.A.P.

[GLOW]

actually because of robertson i voted for the first time this past municipal election.

[MG1]

Why are we talking about a mayor from another city? Don't we have our own problems to deal with?

Toronto will deal with it. We, on the other hand, have to deal with our own fucktard. Actually, we are kind of lucky in that Vancouver proper is not all that large and we have mayors from the other municipalities in the mix. The problem is, they can't get together and agree on anyhting, LOL.

[melloman]

I just enjoy how the "council" can't kick him out.

He either needs to resign, or have the public protest to get a referendum. :lawl:

The laws.. so nice.. much sense. oh yeah. :hat:

[Traum]

^^ At the provincial and federal level, I thought the MLA and MP can propose a motion of no confidence against the premier / prime minister, so I am surprised that at the municipal level, such a thing doesn't exist.

[sonick]

Looking forward to SNL this weekend and most likely Bobby Moynihan's impression of Rob Ford.

Speaking of Chris Farley and SNL:

Rob Ford and Chris Farley Video Mash Up - YouTube

[melloman]

^^
https://d2g892zuoe3k49.cloudfront.net/510b1ebd98d45c946c0001ae/335707206_700.gif

[StylinRed]

Was wondering why I hadn't heard the views of Ontarios premier

and here's her view which can be summed up by :badpokerface: :inoutugh:

Why the premier hasn?t sacked Rob Ford - Toronto - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/why-the-premier-hasn-t-sacked-rob-ford-1.2428363)


Why the premier hasn’t sacked Rob Ford
Premier Wynne suggests council's efforts to curtail mayor's powers are working
By Amber Hildebrandt, CBC News Posted: Nov 15, 2013 4:51 PM ET Last Updated: Nov 15, 2013 6:28 PM ET


The Ontario premier's cautious offer to intervene in Toronto's chaotic affairs may be an undemocratic risky gambit or a promising move, depending on who you ask.

Reaction from political experts was mixed after Premier Kathleen Wynne laid out her rules Thursday for the province to intervene in Toronto's ongoing saga involving Mayor Rob Ford.

The embattled mayor has been making headlines all over the world after admitting to smoking crack cocaine, buying illegal drugs in the past two years in office and drinking and driving.

Current provincial laws only allow the province to remove a mayor if he or she has been found guilty of a crime.

On Thursday, Wynne seemed to be suggesting she would be willing to amend those laws, to provide city council "with new tools," if it requested the province's help and if the other provincial parties were in agreement.

On Friday, however, Toronto councillors passed several motions stripping Ford of some of his powers.

In statements midday Friday, Wynne said it appeared that council decisions made in the morning demonstrated that it is "determined to find a way to make city council work.

"I believe the decisions made this morning are evidence that the council is working and can operate," she said in French.

She also said, in response to a reporter noting that Toronto councillors have been urging the mayor to step down: "He needs to pay close attention to what he’s being advised by the councillors and the people around him."

That latest development didn't stop political experts from mulling the possibility that provincial action could still occur.

Constitutional expert Bruce Ryder, at York University's Osgoode Law School, said the premier’s indication she’d be open to introducing amendments to municipal legislation, if asked, is "promising" and could bring about "useful" changes.

Among the changes he recommends is giving citizens the ability to initiate recall elections by starting a petition or by some kind of super-majority vote of the council. (Recall legislation exists at the provincial level in B.C., but it requires proponents to submit the signatures of 40 per cent of eligible voters in a given riding, a significant hurdle, to move forward.)

Other constitutional experts, however, say provincial intervention in this case is not without risk.

"It could backfire in a big way," cautioned Dennis Pilon, a York University political scientist.

That said, Pilon acknowledged that any action by Wynne's Liberal government could also prove very popular if removal of the mayor gains widespread public and city council support.

On Thursday, Wynne set out the parameters for an Ontario intervention in Toronto's municipal affairs, saying she'd need clear indication from council that they lack the ability to function plus a request from council.

Even then, the premier would consult with other party leaders to seek support for stepping in.

Ontario’s Progressive Conservative opposition, the party that Rob Ford's late father, Doug Ford, represented in the legislature in the 1990s, was mum on Wynne’s initial statement. But NDP Leader Andrea Horwath said the municipal level of government must be "treated with respect."

Wynne's added condition requiring all-party support reduces the pressure on her to act, suggested Pilon.

"She's trying to extend the cost of acting to other actors. She wants them to buy in," he said. "She’s gambling that public opinion at some point will force someone to act, and if it’s her, it won’t be able to be used against her."

Evidence council can operate

The chance of provincial intervention seemed to diminish further on Friday after city council took away Ford's powers during emergency situations as well as his ability to hire or fire the deputy mayor and appoint executive committee members.

"My sense is that councillors actually felt more comfortable taking steps where they, themselves, could reduce the mayor’s power," said Ron Kanter, a municipal lawyer and former city councillor. 'This may eliminate the need for provincial action.'

University of Toronto political scientist Nelson Wiseman suggested that the premier would likely need a very high majority of councillors, perhaps even as high as 40 out of 44, calling for the province's help before it would step in.

"I have always thought [provincial intervention] was highly unlikely unless you had, perhaps the overwhelming majority of council members pleading for it in a petition," he said.

Legal changes slow

Municipalities fall under the province's constitutional authority, giving Ontario the ability to dictate how they function and are administered.

The 'new tools" Wynne referred to would likely involve new legislation or amendments to current laws, such as the City of Toronto Act, which outlines the municipality’s powers.

Many political experts don't seem to support the province directly meddling in city affairs, but they do think the province could play a role in changing the rules to improve city politics overall.

"If the province wants to intervene, then it should intervene at the level of the governance model and say, 'That four-year term is looking like a bad idea now. Let’s go back to three-year terms'," suggested Pilon.

However, introducing new laws or amendments can take time, particularly in a minority government situation as is the case in Ontario.

And by the time any changes get made, that could be well "after the horse [has] left the barn,"Wiseman says.

It may be that Torontonians will have to wait until Oct. 27, 2014 — the fixed date for municipal elections in Ontario — for any reckoning to happen.

"Rob Ford is the kind of political phenomena that the best put down will come from the voters," said Pilon. "The only thing that will have any impact on him and his supporters is a serious dressing down by the public themselves."

[iwantaskyline]

Jon Stewart DESTROYS Obama and Mayor Rob Ford 11/14/2013 | HD - YouTube

:lawl:

[Soundy]

^^ At the provincial and federal level, I thought the MLA and MP can propose a motion of no confidence against the premier / prime minister, so I am surprised that at the municipal level, such a thing doesn't exist.

There's a significant difference in municipal politics, though (at least in this instance): the mayor doesn't get his seat be being the leader of the elected party... he's the mayor because the largest percentage of voters, voted specifically for him to hold that seat. It's actually more similar to the President of the US than it is to most other areas of Canadian politics.

[Traum]

^^ With the way things have moved at Queen's Park, Ford has largely been stripped of his powers as mayor, so at a practical level, he is kind of only the mayor in name now. Still, that is $150k+ of taxpayers' money going down his pockets.

If Ford has any decency left in him, he should really resign. In fact, had he resign much earlier, the majority of this dirty laundry would probably have been kept under the rug so to speak, and he'd be able to leave behind a much better name for himself.

[PeanutButter]

$150K, is this referring to his salary? Because I'm pretty sure he doesn't get paid. He's from a super rich family and I believe he opted out of receiving a salary.
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[Hondaracer]

He lives in like a 1500 sq foot rancher by the look of it, doesn't look wealthy to me lol
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[mikemhg]

FUCK. I'm so sick and tired of this whole media circus we play on public figures when a mistake is made. This story was interesting and funny for a week when it first came out, do we need to keep hearing about it for the next few months?

New idiots coming out of the woodwork accusing this guy of other bullshit, if this is all true, where the fuck were you when it was happening? These other counsel members saying he drank on the job, than why didn't you say something when you knew this?

It's all bullshit, it's all for the media, it's all for joeblow to get on TV and tell his or her little story about Rob Ford to get some attention. I'm so sick and tired how we do this as a society to people, there doesn't seem to be a limit to it all.

There are many things going on in the world right now, instead of concentrating on the important problems and issues facing our governments and societies, we concentrate on a mayor in Toronto who smoked some crack. Big fucking deal. We all have vices, how many politicians beat their wives? How many are alcoholics? How many are coke heads? How many fuck hookers on a regular basis? Who the fuck cares? We all love to act so holy, and throw stones when a person lives their life like a human being, why do we judge others to a degree we would not judge ourselves?

/rant

[Ronin]

He lives in like a 1500 sq foot rancher by the look of it, doesn't look wealthy to me lol
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Crack ain't cheap.

...or he just bought a lot of it.

[xeryusx]

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford - Council Meeting - Jimmy Kimmel Live - YouTube

I love Kimmel and now I love Ford!

Ford for elementary class president!!!!

[Manic!]

FUCK. I'm so sick and tired of this whole media circus we play on public figures when a mistake is made. This story was interesting and funny for a week when it first came out, do we need to keep hearing about it for the next few months?

New idiots coming out of the woodwork accusing this guy of other bullshit, if this is all true, where the fuck were you when it was happening? These other counsel members saying he drank on the job, than why didn't you say something when you knew this?

It's all bullshit, it's all for the media, it's all for joeblow to get on TV and tell his or her little story about Rob Ford to get some attention. I'm so sick and tired how we do this as a society to people, there doesn't seem to be a limit to it all.

There are many things going on in the world right now, instead of concentrating on the important problems and issues facing our governments and societies, we concentrate on a mayor in Toronto who smoked some crack. Big fucking deal. We all have vices, how many politicians beat their wives? How many are alcoholics? How many are coke heads? How many fuck hookers on a regular basis? Who the fuck cares? We all love to act so holy, and throw stones when a person lives their life like a human being, why do we judge others to a degree we would not judge ourselves?

/rant

No one said anything before because it's Rob Ford and he hangs with the Dixon street Bloods. Same thing happened Ex mayor of Sanfran. One woman came out, then a bunch of woman followed claim he had been sexually harassing them for years.

[Soundy]

FUCK. I'm so sick and tired of this whole media circus we play on public figures when a mistake is made. This story was interesting and funny for a week when it first came out, do we need to keep hearing about it for the next few months?

New idiots coming out of the woodwork accusing this guy of other bullshit, if this is all true, where the fuck were you when it was happening? These other counsel members saying he drank on the job, than why didn't you say something when you knew this?

It's all bullshit, it's all for the media, it's all for joeblow to get on TV and tell his or her little story about Rob Ford to get some attention. I'm so sick and tired how we do this as a society to people, there doesn't seem to be a limit to it all.

There are many things going on in the world right now, instead of concentrating on the important problems and issues facing our governments and societies, we concentrate on a mayor in Toronto who smoked some crack. Big fucking deal. We all have vices, how many politicians beat their wives? How many are alcoholics? How many are coke heads? How many fuck hookers on a regular basis? Who the fuck cares? We all love to act so holy, and throw stones when a person lives their life like a human being, why do we judge others to a degree we would not judge ourselves?

/rant
I wish I could Thank this a hundred times.

It seems to be almost an inherent trait of modern society (especially "liberal" Western society) to build up people who are in the public eye, then look for any opportunity to rip them down to show how morally superior we are... God forbid even the slightest flaw is ever found, because EVERYONE is going to want to take a swipe at it just so they can show they're "better" than this piece of trash, placing themselves on the same moral high ground as everyone else.

Self-righteous fucking TWITS.

[Manic!]

I wish I could Thank this a hundred times.

It seems to be almost an inherent trait of modern society (especially "liberal" Western society) to build up people who are in the public eye, then look for any opportunity to rip them down to show how morally superior we are... God forbid even the slightest flaw is ever found, because EVERYONE is going to want to take a swipe at it just so they can show they're "better" than this piece of trash, placing themselves on the same moral high ground as everyone else.

Self-righteous fucking TWITS.

And in eastern societies the rich and powerful can do what every they want and the rest suffer.

[Soundy]

And in eastern societies the rich and powerful can do what every they want and the rest suffer.

So this makes it okay to go all the way to the other extreme?

[PeanutButter]

He lives in like a 1500 sq foot rancher by the look of it, doesn't look wealthy to me lol
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Yeah, it doesn't look like much, but according to wiki, it can hold one heck of a backyard bbq.

Born in Etobicoke in 1969, Ford is the youngest of four children (Doug, Kathy, Randy and Rob) of Ruth Diane (née Campbell) and Douglas Bruce Ford, Sr.[8][9] Ford, Sr. was the founder of Deco Labels and Tags, which makes pressure-sensitive labels for plastic-wrapped grocery products at an estimated $100 million in annual sales.[10] As an indication of the family's wealth, the success of the family business allowed the family to build a six-bedroom home in Etobicoke, which has a swimming pool and gardens that can host nearly a thousand visitors.[10]

[Foralark]

Mayor Rob Ford mocked by Colbert Report - YouTube

[Traum]

$150K, is this referring to his salary? Because I'm pretty sure he doesn't get paid. He's from a super rich family and I believe he opted out of receiving a salary.
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According to this:

Yahoo News Canada - Latest News & Headlines (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-rejects-3-per-cent-202022960.html)

Ford's salary back in 2012 is $167,770.

[parm104]

Yeah, it doesn't look like much, but according to wiki, it can hold one heck of a backyard bbq.

That's his parent's house, not his. His parents house is a 3 story house with a pool and large patio.

[Manic!]

So this makes it okay to go all the way to the other extreme?

It's funny you bring up the Liberals when it's the Conservatives acting Holier than thou.

This guy has admitted do doing crack, hanging out with hard core gang members one who is now dead, has been caught drinking and driving, been drunk during at official functions, is accused of being with prostitutes, grouping women, and doing coke. What's this guy have to do to get fired? kill some one?

[Manic!]

Rob Fords house:

http://www.680news.com/files/2012/01/f9364174499e8cad7af23ab306e5-500x375.jpg

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/1127ford1.jpg?w=620

[ae101]

It's funny you bring up the Liberals when it's the Conservatives acting Holier than thou.

This guy has admitted do doing crack, hanging out with hard core gang members one who is now dead, has been caught drinking and driving, been drunk during at official functions, is accused of being with prostitutes, grouping women, and doing coke. What's this guy have to do to get fired? kill some one?

by doing a super horrible job being a mayor
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[parm104]

by doing a super horrible job being a mayor
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Well, it could be argued that he is not conforming to his role as a chief executive officer.

Depending on the official interpretation of:
1. The purposes of the City are...
2. What acting like a representative entails...
3. Whether his duty to foster and promote and enhance economic and social well-being of the city is violated by acts that do the opposite of enhancing social well-being.

Dependant on how a legal body would interpret these above phrases, it could be said that his vulgar language on TV, disregard for the law and use of illegal narcotics all violate the purposes of the city or fail to conform with the goals of being a representative or fail to promote social well-being.

[Manic!]

Rob Ford is going to be on AC360 on CNN tomorrow.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/THISGONBGUD.gif

[parm104]

Rob Ford is going to be on AC360 on CNN tomorrow.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/THISGONBGUD.gif

LOL and people complain saying the media is being intrusive and everyone is treating him unfairly. If YA don't want more controversy and want to be left alone, then stop going on the air and talking about eating da pooooooon and DON'T go on a TV show that as over half a million viewers.

[Soundy]

It's funny you bring up the Liberals when it's the Conservatives acting Holier than thou.
Oh trust me, there's plenty of self-righteousness to go around from both wings... it just seems more ironic coming from the "I'm okay, you're okay" lefties.

[Lomac]

Honestly, I don't care if a mayor (or, hell, Premiere, Prime Minister or President) snorts lines off a hooker's ass while in a meeting. So long as he or she is doing a good job, oh well. There are tons of functional users in the business world. Hell, a buddy of mine used to do cocaine socially and during that time his work ethic actually went up a couple notches. It wasn't until he had a weekend of too much partying and actually became addicted to it that things finally went downhill.

How many of you calling for his head have spent a night wasted drunk or smoked a few joints or done something "unsavory?"

[Manic!]

Honestly, I don't care if a mayor (or, hell, Premiere, Prime Minister or President) snorts lines off a hooker's ass while in a meeting. So long as he or she is doing a good job, oh well. There are tons of functional users in the business world. Hell, a buddy of mine used to do cocaine socially and during that time his work ethic actually went up a couple notches. It wasn't until he had a weekend of too much partying and actually became addicted to it that things finally went downhill.

How many of you calling for his head have spent a night wasted drunk or smoked a few joints or done something "unsavory?"

So your OK with the Mayor breaking laws he's elected to enforce? Does being mayor make him above the law? if he want's to smoke crack he should put forward a motion to city council to legalize it.

Rob Ford is doing a terrible job as a mayor. instead of dealing with the day to day issues of the city he's spending all his time dealing with his problems.

[Energy]

Honestly, I don't care if a mayor (or, hell, Premiere, Prime Minister or President) snorts lines off a hooker's ass while in a meeting. So long as he or she is doing a good job, oh well. There are tons of functional users in the business world. Hell, a buddy of mine used to do cocaine socially and during that time his work ethic actually went up a couple notches. It wasn't until he had a weekend of too much partying and actually became addicted to it that things finally went downhill.

How many of you calling for his head have spent a night wasted drunk or smoked a few joints or done something "unsavory?"

We are not elected officials. Those we place in positions of power must be held to a higher standard. It reflects poorly on us if we have a mayor doing crack and not being held accountable for it.

[Soundy]

So your OK with the Mayor breaking laws he's elected to enforce?
Considering he's been CLOSELY investigated by the police (some would say to the point of persecution) and they still haven't even come up with enough to arrest him, let alone recommend charges, I'd say you're being a little premature there...

[Soundy]

We are not elected officials. Those we place in positions of power must be held to a higher standard.
I hear this all the time... never understood who decided this MUST be the case, though.

[Manic!]

Considering he's been CLOSELY investigated by the police (some would say to the point of persecution) and they still haven't even come up with enough to arrest him, let alone recommend charges, I'd say you're being a little premature there...

He admitted to doing crack. You calling him a lliar?

[Manic!]

I hear this all the time... never understood who decided this MUST be the case, though.

Because they are the ones making and enforcing the law.

You think cops should get in trouble for being intoxicated in a public place?

[Lomac]

We are not elected officials. Those we place in positions of power must be held to a higher standard. It reflects poorly on us if we have a mayor doing crack and not being held accountable for it.

While I understand the sentiment, I'd almost rather someone in power be more "of the people" than someone "above the people." It shows that even those we elect into power are capable of making mistakes. It's one reason why I don't get too up in arms about all the issues that have popped up in the past with different elected officials.

Besides, I've yet to meet a single person who hasn't done something that couldn't be used against them in a smear campaign if they ever decided to run for any type of office.

[Lomac]

He admitted to doing crack. You calling him a lliar?

Technically the act of smoking cocaine isn't illegal. Possession and purchasing, yes.

At least that's how I understand the lettering of the law.

[Soundy]

He admitted to doing crack. You calling him a lliar?

Technically the act of smoking cocaine isn't illegal. Possession and purchasing, yes.

At least that's how I understand the lettering of the law.

:werd:

I think Manic should work for the OPP, apparently he knows more about the situation than they do.

[Manic!]

Technically the act of smoking cocaine isn't illegal. Possession and purchasing, yes.

At least that's how I understand the lettering of the law.


Rob Ford admits to buying illegal drugs while mayor, loses humiliating council vote 37 to 5 | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11/13/rob-ford-prepares-for-bare-knuckle-council-meeting-as-city-hall-critics-ask-for-leave-of-absence-apology/)

[Manic!]

:werd:

I think Manic should work for the OPP, apparently he knows more about the situation than they do.

I can teach them how to use Google.

[parm104]

I can teach them how to use Google.

You sit there all high any mighty driving around in your blue R8 acting like you've never done crack cocaine before. Have you ever even taken your car off jumps before?

[Energy]

While I understand the sentiment, I'd almost rather someone in power be more "of the people" than someone "above the people." It shows that even those we elect into power are capable of making mistakes. It's one reason why I don't get too up in arms about all the issues that have popped up in the past with different elected officials.

Besides, I've yet to meet a single person who hasn't done something that couldn't be used against them in a smear campaign if they ever decided to run for any type of office.

"The people" don't generally do crack cocaine - a substance proven to be highly addictive and can ruin lives. This is different from smoking, or consuming alcohol or perhaps even recreational marijuana.

And yes, people make mistakes all the time. BUT there is a difference between doing stupid things when you are young and immature AND doing those things while you are in office. Lying and attempting to cover it up afterwards makes it worse.

[Energy]

I hear this all the time... never understood who decided this MUST be the case, though.

You don't believe that, naturally, this must be the case?

I don't need a law to tell me that someone in a position of power, someone who was elected to look after our interests, someone who has a zero tolerance for drugs, gangs and guns should not be allowed to smoke crack and, if he does, get away with it.

[ae101]

have some of u ever wonder if u kick ford out now, how would u know the next guy is going to be doing a good job

yes the next guy is responsible non crack smoking family loving guy, but the whole TO is in debt because of the NEW mayor

fact is nobody knows if the new mayor is going to doing a better job then ford, if he done then thats wonderful but what happens if he doesnt?

[Traum]

have some of u ever wonder if u kick ford out now, how would u know the next guy is going to be doing a good job

yes the next guy is responsible non crack smoking family loving guy, but the whole TO is in debt because of the NEW mayor

fact is nobody knows if the new mayor is going to doing a better job then ford, if he done then thats wonderful but what happens if he doesnt?
^ This kind of thinking is exactly what ultra conservative people come up with. It is pointless to bring the point up because it is an entirely hypothetical question. We could have just as easily argue that, what if the next guy does a kicka$$ job and doesn't smoke crack?

In a business, if the same question gets asked, an under-performing CEO would never get replaced. What is the next guy is worse?

Stop asking the what ifs. Ford screwed up. Time to move on to the next guy so that Queen's Park can re-focus its attention on TO instead of keep shining that spotlight on the personal blunders that he commits during his "drunken stupors".

[parm104]

have some of u ever wonder if u kick ford out now, how would u know the next guy is going to be doing a good job

yes the next guy is responsible non crack smoking family loving guy, but the whole TO is in debt because of the NEW mayor

fact is nobody knows if the new mayor is going to doing a better job then ford, if he done then thats wonderful but what happens if he doesnt?

There is a democratic process that gets him in and if the next mayor fails to do a good job, he won't get re-elected, simple.

[Noir]

You don't believe that, naturally, this must be the case?

I don't need a law to tell me that someone in a position of power, someone who was elected to look after our interests, someone who has a zero tolerance for drugs, gangs and guns should not be allowed to smoke crack and, if he does, get away with it.

And that's the crux of the argument Lomac and Soundy is making isn't it? He does a damn fine job looking after everyone's interest. So what if he sucks looking out for his own interest?

[Manic!]

And that's the crux of the argument Lomac and Soundy is making isn't it? He does a damn fine job looking after everyone's interest. So what if he sucks looking out for his own interest?

Is he doing a good job? Deconstructing Mayor Rob Ford's fiscal record | Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/robford/2013/11/08/deconstructing_mayor_rob_fords_fiscal_record.html)

And Rob Ford on Fox news: Rob Ford tells Fox he wants to be prime minister | Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/17/rob_ford_talks_to_fox_news_i_am_training_every_day .html)

[Soundy]

There is a democratic process that gets him in and if the next mayor fails to do a good job, he won't get re-elected, simple.

He was on a T.O. radio station yesterday calling out City Council's actions and challenging them to call an immediate election.

Personally, I think they should - everyone would find out really quick where THE CITIZENS of Toronto stand on the subject... and dollars to donuts, you'd see the highest voter turnout in Canadian history.

[Soundy]

Rob Ford admits to buying illegal drugs while mayor, loses humiliating council vote 37 to 5 | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11/13/rob-ford-prepares-for-bare-knuckle-council-meeting-as-city-hall-critics-ask-for-leave-of-absence-apology/)

I can teach them how to use Google.
Obviously, none of which are legal PROOF, or he would already be in cuffs. Doug Ford has already claimed that the police chief has a personal vendetta against his brother; if that was the case, don't you think he'd jump at ANY excuse to lock the guy up?

But media bluster is not proof.

In a business, if the same question gets asked, an under-performing CEO would never get replaced. What is the next guy is worse?
Ah, bad analogy, because the argument is that he's NOT under-performing in his public duties (yes, some disagree with this), DESPITE his personal foibles.

I guarantee you, in business, if that CEO is still brining in the bucks and keeping the shareholders happy, there's a good chance any personal indiscretions will be conveniently overlooked.

You don't believe that, naturally, this must be the case?

I don't need a law to tell me that someone in a position of power, someone who was elected to look after our interests, someone who has a zero tolerance for drugs, gangs and guns should not be allowed to smoke crack and, if he does, get away with it.

As I posted way back on page 3:

It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates.

Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.

Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.

Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.

Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler.

Clean living does not guarantee a good leader.

[multicartual]

Rob Ford is a personal hero of mine. A lot of highly intelligent people function very well while recreationally consuming liquor and drugs. Sure, it does destroy some people, but so does McDonald's

[Manic!]

Obviously, none of which are legal PROOF, or he would already be in cuffs. Doug Ford has already claimed that the police chief has a personal vendetta against his brother; if that was the case, don't you think he'd jump at ANY excuse to lock the guy up?

But media bluster is not proof.


Rob Fob Ford admitting to doing crack multiple times including his interview on AC 360 tonight is proof. You think he is a lair?

[shawnly1000]

Live airing of the proceedings of Toronto City Council is some popcorn worthy stuff.

[Tim Budong]

http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fordcouncilmeeting.gif

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196rep4nvm4ragif/ku-xlarge.gif

and if you watch this gif backwards..its like.. Helpful Rob Ford

http://i.imgur.com/fpMMq1Z.gif

[Traum]

Volvo Van Damme Epic Splits Rob Ford Parody - YouTube

:fuckthatshit:

[Manic!]

. A lot of highly intelligent people function very well while recreationally consuming liquor and drugs.

Like who?

[MR_BIGGS]

Like who?

Not this guy:

Billionaire David Ho admits to confining prostitute, drug possession | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/02/vancouver-billionaire-david-ho-pleads-guilty-to-unlawful-confinement-possession-of-drugs-handgun/)

[Sid Vicious]

Like who?

ever...you know, read a book? or watched a movie? or listened to a song? or used a scientific theory?

chances are, some if not all of the people who worked on it were under the influence of one, of not several drugs

if you think that you can divorce human existence from mind altering substances, you have a very little understanding of human history or human consciousness as a whole

[Soundy]

ever...you know, read a book? or watched a movie? or listened to a song? or used a scientific theory?

chances are, some if not all of the people who worked on it were under the influence of one, of not several drugs

if you think that you can divorce human existence from mind altering substances, you have a very little understanding of human history or human consciousness as a whole

Listen to the person posting this, he knows whereof he speaks!

http://images.wikia.com/degrassi/images/b/b6/Sid-sid-vicious-1970308-375-577.jpg

[Soundy]

Rob Fob Ford admitting to doing crack multiple times including his interview on AC 360 tonight is proof. You think he is a lair?
As previously noted, simply USING crack is not necessarily a crime. Someone else brings the pipe, loads it, lights it, and you simply take a drag... that's not really an offence under the law.

Question: if this can be considered proof of a crime, then why has he not been arrested? Conviction of a crime is the one thing that would allow him to be removed from office, so why hasn't it happened, if there's all this legally-binding proof floating about?

A lot of highly intelligent people function very well while recreationally consuming liquor and drugs.

Like who?

http://riotandfrolic.typepad.com/.a/6a015431fc4e55970c017ee5e35b15970d-800wi

[achiam]

Taiwan Apple Animated version of his pussy eating. Not sure if posted yet.
Rob Ford eats beaver and smokes crack, video not attractive - YouTube

[Manic!]

As previously noted, simply USING crack is not necessarily a crime. Someone else brings the pipe, loads it, lights it, and you simply take a drag... that's not really an offence under the law.

Question: if this can be considered proof of a crime, then why has he not been arrested? Conviction of a crime is the one thing that would allow him to be removed from office, so why hasn't it happened, if there's all this legally-binding proof floating about?




“Have you purchased illegal drugs in the last two years?” asked Coun. Minnan-Wong.

After a long pause, Ford replied, “Yes, I have.”

Rob Ford admits to buying drugs while mayor (with video) (http://www.canada.com/news/Ford+admits+buying+drugs+while+mayor+with+video/9160680/story.html)

[parm104]

“Have you purchased illegal drugs in the last two years?” asked Coun. Minnan-Wong.

After a long pause, Ford replied, “Yes, I have.”

Rob Ford admits to buying drugs while mayor (with video) (http://www.canada.com/news/Ford+admits+buying+drugs+while+mayor+with+video/9160680/story.html)

Ahhh well yea but it's like not illegal to like admit you've bought drugs after the fact. Besides he didn't even have an attorney present when he was questioned by the city council so like it doesn't even count.

As previously noted, simply USING crack is not necessarily a crime. Someone else brings the pipe, loads it, lights it, and you simply take a drag... that's not really an offence under the law.

Question: if this can be considered proof of a crime, then why has he not been arrested? Conviction of a crime is the one thing that would allow him to be removed from office, so why hasn't it happened, if there's all this legally-binding proof floating about?


The idea that Mayor Ford admitted to the use of an illegal substance without first speaking to his legal counsel would be absurd.

Just because it cannot be legally proven doesn't mean the crime wasn't committed. You can't really be convicted of possession of a drug after the fact...This hinders the ability of law enforcement to produce a certificate of analysis to provide proof of the controlled substance.

Had he been caught in the act, I see that it would be very likely that he would be charged with possession.

Regardless, this argument is circular. Yes, we get it...some of you think it's okay to use drugs for your own personal and recreational needs and others feel that it's not...the City of Toronto will deal with their own problem but until they do, this will continue to be an international stain on our rather clean image.

[Soundy]

...this will continue to be an international stain on our rather clean image.
Why? Other than comedians and sensationalistic news outlets, why does everyone seem to think the rest of the world even gives a fuck?

[Sid Vicious]

^ +1

im tired of this blah blah blah, "our" reputation or stain on "our" image GTFO its rob fords reputation + image

this is blown way outta proportion because its media fodder, itd be different if he was embezzling a shitload of money or beating up kids or whatever

[parm104]

Why? Other than comedians and sensationalistic news outlets, why does everyone seem to think the rest of the world even gives a fuck?

Because I live in a different country and it has come up non-stop over the last week. It's enviable for people to pick up on any sign of weakness. It's the same as we do when we say "...cause America."

Whether it's justified or not, whether you think it matters or not...the fact is, at least one other country has taken this issue by the horns and ran with it. It's completely naive to think only Rob Ford's image or Toronto's image is being affected here just as ignorant as it is for people outside of Canada to pin it as an accurate representation of Canadian politics...

[AAnthony]

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[multicartual]

^ +1

im tired of this blah blah blah, "our" reputation or stain on "our" image GTFO its rob fords reputation + image

this is blown way outta proportion because its media fodder, itd be different if he was embezzling a shitload of money or beating up kids or whatever


Another is the stigma against drugs. People are always looking for a reason to demonize unpopular things like recreational drug use, promiscuity, driving fast, pretty much anything fun.

People need a bad guy to point at and go "Don't be like him, he's bad!"

[Soundy]

Because I live in a different country and it has come up non-stop over the last week. It's enviable for people to pick up on any sign of weakness. It's the same as we do when we say "...cause America."

Whether it's justified or not, whether you think it matters or not...the fact is, at least one other country has taken this issue by the horns and ran with it. It's completely naive to think only Rob Ford's image or Toronto's image is being affected here just as ignorant as it is for people outside of Canada to pin it as an accurate representation of Canadian politics...
Oh fuck, why stop there then? Think of the horrible blight this is on humanity's image! The fucking dolphins must be laughing their bags off at all of us humans "because Rob Ford". So long, and thanks for all the fish. :fuckthatshit:

And how about the bad image this gives Planet Earth? I imagine it being just like the movie Contact, except instead of the Hitler video, the aliens from Vega send back the clip of Ford's (allegedly) crack-fueled wrestling moves, along with plans to build a bomb and blow ourselves all up because obviously, we can't have this kind of stupidity spreading throughout the galaxy. EVER. :heckno:

Heaven forbid someone in an alternate universe decides that tourism to our space/time continuum is probably not a good idea because, well, Rob Ford... which is all the more reason for Vega to blow us up, because they rely heavily on cross-dimensional tourism. :seriously:

[Soundy]

“Have you purchased illegal drugs in the last two years?” asked Coun. Minnan-Wong.

After a long pause, Ford replied, “Yes, I have.”

Rob Ford admits to buying drugs while mayor (with video) (http://www.canada.com/news/Ford+admits+buying+drugs+while+mayor+with+video/9160680/story.html)

Then why hasn't he been arrested and charged?

[Sid Vicious]

Because I live in a different country and it has come up non-stop over the last week. It's enviable for people to pick up on any sign of weakness. It's the same as we do when we say "...cause America."

Whether it's justified or not, whether you think it matters or not...the fact is, at least one other country has taken this issue by the horns and ran with it. It's completely naive to think only Rob Ford's image or Toronto's image is being affected here just as ignorant as it is for people outside of Canada to pin it as an accurate representation of Canadian politics...

lol who fucking cares

im proud as fuck of canada and our government. we have a reasonable, moderate government that takes a pragmatic,academic view of most issues and its reflected in our society and culture. one crack smoker ain't gonna change that.

on the other hand, you have a government that constantly wages pointless wars, spys on its own citizens and continues to erode its own civil liberties while having a joke of a healthcare system.

who cares what other countries think? canada fuck yeah

[parm104]

lol who fucking cares

im proud as fuck of canada and our government. we have a reasonable, moderate government that takes a pragmatic,academic view of most issues and its reflected in our society and culture. one crack smoker ain't gonna change that.

on the other hand, you have a government that constantly wages pointless wars, spys on its own citizens and continues to erode its own civil liberties while having a joke of a healthcare system.

who cares what other countries think? canada fuck yeah

I already mentioned that it shouldn't matter and that every country has its own problems...there's no point in making an argument here because you guys keep side-tracking.

The issue wasn't whether it mattered or whether we care but rather whether anyone else was even concerned with our politics. I simply provided insight that well yes, people from other countries.

Not everyone is going to think and feel the same way as you guys and vice versa. It's not to say one side is wrong or right. But there is no point in going back and forth saying "it matters" or "it doesn't matter." As voters, as citizens, we all have the right to decide what matters to us in the political scene and what issues make and break our support.

[multicartual]

Not everyone is going to think and feel the same way as you guys and vice versa.


Thank fucking god!


:hat:

[Soundy]

canada fuck yeah

SKOOKUM - Canada's National Anthem Skookum style - YouTube

[fsy82]

Well Rob Ford has had most of his power and budget removed by the city. He's becoming more of just a namesake Mayor.

[Manic!]

Rob Ford is done. He's a lame duck mayor with no power has had is TV show canceled and even if he gets re elected will get no support from the other city councilors.

[Traum]

Reportedly, viewership to his TV show was sky high (as expected). However, the official reason for the cancellation was because Ford was too inexperienced with TV production and the recording took way too long (and therefore too expensive) to continue. Reportedly, he and Doug needed 6 hrs to record the 1 hrs show.

Whether that is really the truth... who knows?

[JaPoola]

What happened to the senators who were found to be claiming false expense reports?

[Manic!]

What happened to the senators who were found to be claiming false expense reports?

Suspended with out pay for 2 years I believe.

Rob Fords show got 150000 views the biggest for Sun TV. Nut thats not that big compared to other shows and Sun TV is only in 2 out of 5 Canadian households. Sun also was not paying Rob anything. The TV channel is pretty much broke.

[parm104]

Video: Tea Party Congressman Gets Busted Buying Cocaine (Only Getting 180 Days In Jail)

[bing]

Rob Ford Should Stay (For Now) | TIME.com (http://ideas.time.com/2013/11/20/rob-ford-should-stay-for-now/)

Just an opinion piece on TIME.

[Anjew]

i cant wait to see what how Fords replacement will perform.

[RRxtar]

Van Mayor urges Ford to step away
by The Canadian Press - Story: 103124
Nov 20, 2013 / 7:53 pm


Photo: Contributed
Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson is advising embattled Toronto Mayor Rob Ford to step out of the media glare.

Robertson said it would be best if Ford gets out of the limelight, when he was asked for his opinion by reporters during an unrelated media conference on Wednesday,

Robertson said it is up to the Ontario government now to take any action to empower Toronto's city council to deal with the spectacle created by Ford.

Ford, who admitted to smoking crack cocaine after months of denying it, was stripped of most of his mayoral powers earlier this week by his fellow councillors.

Robertson said it's unlikely a similar situation would occur on the West Coast, and the drama surrounding Ford has not distracted the Federation of Canadian Municipalities’ Big City Mayors’ Caucus from its advocacy work.

Still, Robertson advises his Toronto counterpart to "do the right thing."

"I think the sooner that the issue is resolved, and Mr. Ford steps out of the limelight, the better for Toronto and the better for Canadian cities," Robertson says.

"It's been a really difficult chapter and I think Mayor Ford needs to do the right thing. He's getting a lot of signals to that effect, and I think that will serve his city and our country."

unconfimred reports Toronto is now looking into turning the 401 completely into a bike lane

[Traum]

^^ Bike boy is speaking like a true politician here by purposely being vague.

Notice how he only used the terms "do the right thing" and (more importantly) "step out of the limelight". These are very ambiguous phrases, leaving the public free to interpret it however they want. "Stepping out of the limelight" could mean anything from full on resignation to simply keeping his (Mr. Ford's, that is) mouth shut and stay away from the media. "Doing the right thing" is even more ambigious.

Instead of turning the 401 into a full 8 lanes bike lane, I think a certain local politician is looking to replace all roadways across Canada into bike lanes -- I bet he is vying for the top federal job! :troll:

[Soundy]

^^ Bike boy is speaking like a true politician here by purposely being vague.
And this is why people are sick of politicians and love Ford.

[Traum]

And this is why people are sick of politicians and love Ford.
I once read a saying that goes something along the lines of "lies are the grease that lubricates society's gears", and the saying really couldn't be more true. The fact of the matter is, lies, courtesy, and manners are often only separated by a very thin line. If everyone speaks 100% of their true emotions all the time, an overwhelming majority of stuff we say will consist of people fxxking and cursing each other. Nobody would get along, and society wouldn't be able to get anything done.

So my dear friend, would you rather to have me keep up with my manners when I am discussing things with you? Or would you rather continue to fxxking act like the fxxking hypocrite that you are and pretend that you are fxxking holier than thou when you are every bit just as fxxking filthy as everybody else? :troll:

[Soundy]

Obviously everyone speaking the blunt truth would be better in the long run, but I'd rather a bald-faced lie than a smarmy, pandering "do you really expect me to believe this bullshit?" half-truth. The latter are what politicians specialize in, and I think is a big part of why people are sick of the whole political system and why voter turnout is so low.

Ford's "I never did it... okay yeah, I did it, so fucking what" is far more palatable than the constant dancing, side-stepping, "trust me, I know what's best for you" pap we usually get.

[Traum]

Ford's "I never did it... okay yeah, I did it, so fucking what" is far more palatable than the constant dancing, side-stepping, "trust me, I know what's best for you" pap we usually get.
For myself (and probably a lot of other people), the initial and repeated denial, followed by the inevitable acknowledgement caused a lot of damage. It would have been far better had Ford just declined to comment all along until the undeniable proof came out. At least he could claim he has never lied.

For many, that blatant breach of trust is unacceptable.

[quasi]

Rob Ford the Movie - YouTube

[multicartual]

I wish I had cocaine right now

[parm104]

I wish I had cocaine right now

Yea...we get it, you're pro-narcotics...

[VancouverG88]

Rob Ford on Cyclists - YouTube

Oh how I wish I could see what Gregor's reaction would be to this

[Traum]

^^ Well, at least he is spot on for this one!

[Manic!]

^^ Well, at least he is spot on for this one!

So true roads are for cars and trucks only. Hate seeing these Honda's had Harley's on the road.

[Manic!]

Rob Ford is out. He has been diagnosed with a tumour. Doug Ford is now taking his place for candidate for mayor.

[Traum]

The problem with Doug Ford is, he is nowhere nearly as charismatic (really, I hesitate to use that word on Rob Ford, but he is very good at drawing people's attention of all kinds), and I just don't see how he would have a chance to win the mayoral race.