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thumper
11-05-2013, 09:04 PM
Cyberpunk 2077 Teaser Trailer
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Welcome to the year 2077. More info: http://www.cyberpunk.net/

The teaser shows how the Psycho Squad might acquire a new member.

The Psycho Squad specializes in combating "psychos" -- individuals who overuse implants and substances that boost or otherwise alter the human body.

There comes a point when they overdose on these innovations, and their bodies start to rebel against their biological body parts as well as all things organic around them. Simply put, they start killing people, who they now derisively call "meatbags."

When a psycho goes on the rampage, strange things can happen. There's carnage, and the psycho might be taken down by regular police, but they're not always able to get the job done.

When things spin out of control, they call in MAX-TAC (Maximum Force Tactical Division), popularly called the Psycho Squad.

Music: "Bullets" written by Darius Keeler, Pollard Berrier
performed by Archive http://archiveofficial.com/
iTunes:https://itunes.apple.com/lu/album/bullets-single/id301164933

http://www.youtube.com/CyberpunkGame

Cyberpunk 2077 Teaser Trailer - YouTube

CGI - CGMeetup.net - Cyberpunk 2077 Behind the Scenes (Slideshow) - YouTube

Cyberpunk 2077 teaser trailer: In-depth analysis - YouTube

thumper
08-28-2018, 08:36 PM
https://youtu.be/vjF9GgrY9c0

SpeedStars
08-29-2018, 01:46 AM
Just saw the gameplay demo and I must admit, it looks amazing even with some of the technical glitches. It does seem like a game that would play pretty good on VR though. Shame there's no release date

thumper
08-29-2018, 04:15 AM
yeah no release date. it's been stalled and rebooted so many times i'm just glad it's come this far.

https://youtu.be/8X2kIfS6fb8

https://youtu.be/IT1enDYs5h8

Vansterdam
08-29-2018, 11:50 AM
wow interesting to see the original post was 5 years old lol

dem android titties doe :megusta:

def grabbing this

mikemhg
08-31-2018, 11:36 AM
Looks amazing. Going to have to start my new PC build pretty quick here..

thumper
06-09-2019, 01:08 PM
Keanu Reeves... what more is there to say?

https://youtu.be/SD40kH4aehM

FN-2199
06-09-2019, 02:56 PM
Just saw the E3 cinematics for this game and wow... It looks great!

Ch28
06-09-2019, 11:58 PM
Just saw the E3 cinematics for this game and wow... It looks great!

Expect nothing less than amazing from CD Projekt Red

FN-2199
06-10-2019, 12:20 AM
I was sold even before Keanu was revealed :lol

Vansterdam
06-10-2019, 07:18 AM
yup most anticipated release for 2020

MikeyStyle
12-08-2020, 11:03 AM
Official Launch Trailer — V

SkinnyPupp
12-08-2020, 01:03 PM
Initial reviews are out and it looks like this could have used another delay. I was going to pick it up day 1, but I'm going to wait for the first big patch instead.

Hondaracer
12-08-2020, 01:16 PM
Yea I’m hoping they have some sort of program built within steam etc to test the graphic requirements as well.. As I said in the build thread I think my R9 930 should be adequate but if it’s going to struggle I may wait until I buy a new console

SkinnyPupp
12-08-2020, 01:39 PM
Yea I’m hoping they have some sort of program built within steam etc to test the graphic requirements as well.. As I said in the build thread I think my R9 930 should be adequate but if it’s going to struggle I may wait until I buy a new console
One review did some benchmarks based on their recommendations (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-system-requirements-official-plus-our-recommendations)

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/PT3BHpvcdKZTKbFMPjvW9n-970-80.jpg

Based on our initial testing results, it looks like the official Cyberpunk 2077 system requirements target performance of 30-40 fps.

So based on this, the recommended minimum GTX 780 or RX 470 will do 30 fps at 1080p low. R9 390 is about 10-20% faster than those cards. So you'll be stuck at minimum

Another thing to consider is that CDPR didn't let anyone test the console versions. That includes the base consoles, which are well below those minimum PC specs, and even the new consoles. So definitely wait on those results before pulling the trigger.

It looks like they bit off more than they could chew with this game, and were barely able to get it out in working condition.

Hondaracer
12-08-2020, 01:55 PM
Yea sorry 390 not 930*

Well then...lol fuck and 70GB on SSD.. I’ve only got left over space on mechanical drives Uhg

Mr.Money
12-08-2020, 09:21 PM
truthful reviews coming after release day.

hopefully its not as bad as Red Dead Redemption 2 with the 80 fps yet you're system is modern.

sonick
12-08-2020, 09:42 PM
Holy shit was this game really initially announced in 2013?

I had no idea and hadn't heard of it until the Xbox Series X announcement.

What's the story around this and why'd it take so long? It was like that Duke Nukem sequel that was always delayed.

Razor Ramon HG
12-08-2020, 10:41 PM
We'll see how it runs in 24 hours.

Reviews seem to say it's relatively buggy, so hopefully the removal of Denuvo and a day one patch will speed things up a bit for us.

I guess it's a good thing I got a 3080 because it sounds like this game will definitely need it.

A buddy was hoping it'd run at 1440/60 on his 1070. I laughed.

EDIT: Here's some graphs to sort of know what to expect (with caveats) - https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/k95v3g/tomshardware_took_down_their_prerelease_cp77/

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 02:49 AM
Santa came through for me LUL so I guess I'll be playing it tomorrow morning at 8am. I just hope there's a patch that's better than what the reviewers have access to

BTW the reason nobody else is posting benchmarks, and why that site had to take theirs down, is because the game is secured by heavy DRM which causes a big performance hit. So that "30-40 FPS" (and the other results) are going to be kind of bullshit. We won't know for sure until the game is out, but it shouldn't be as bad as these reports indicate.

And again with consoles, who knows LUL

Jmac
12-09-2020, 06:14 AM
Holy shit was this game really initially announced in 2013?

I had no idea and hadn't heard of it until the Xbox Series X announcement.

What's the story around this and why'd it take so long? It was like that Duke Nukem sequel that was always delayed.
From what I’ve read, this is more to do with the ambition of the game (size, cutting edge tech, etc) than what happened with the DN sequel.

Hondaracer
12-09-2020, 06:41 AM
what card do you have skinny

Vansterdam
12-09-2020, 07:10 AM
Initial reviews are out and it looks like this could have used another delay. I was going to pick it up day 1, but I'm going to wait for the first big patch instead.

45gb ish day1 patch lol

donk.
12-09-2020, 10:32 AM
Blew my load on a new laptop so i can run this on high settings

Anyone else watch cyberpunk 2077 america / russia / africa editions?

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 10:35 AM
what card do you have skinny
3070 I'll report here what kind of settings I end up using. I aim for 90 fps+ with bottom 1% above 60, so I will not be able to turn everything on.

mikemhg
12-09-2020, 11:27 AM
Can't wait to play this one.

If you have a next gen console, I'd consider waiting before you play this one. Keep in mind the current version is structured for PS4, CD Project will be releasing a PS5 version/patch in the near future, but not yet.

No point playing the PS4 version of this game if you'll be getting a better graphical version in the future here.

I'm going to wait, as I've been waiting for this game for a damn near decade.

twitchyzero
12-09-2020, 11:59 AM
hope the 1080ti's wont blow up trying to 4k on medium :lol

radioman
12-09-2020, 02:50 PM
10 minutes boys :)

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 03:24 PM
Just woke up, downloading the 60 GB patch KEKW

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 03:37 PM
Who else is giving their character a big dick?

:ifyouknow:

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 03:45 PM
Me but on a female Kreygasm

Edit: Went for regular size, uncircumcised with normal sized breasts. Because I'm a traditionalist SeemsGood

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 03:46 PM
Ran out of disk space overnight... No error message until I tried to run the game LUL

Time to finally uninstall Witcher 3 after 5 years of never going back to it at 80% complete LUL

radioman
12-09-2020, 03:51 PM
3070 with ultra settings and ray tracing im pumping a solid 60+fps at 1440p if anyone was curious.

EDIT: NOT A TI

roastpuff
12-09-2020, 03:55 PM
Is that with DLSS or not?

And 3070 ti, what?

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 04:03 PM
I am very curious to see what DLSS looks like for me. I didn't like it at all in Control at 1080p. It was definitely meant for 4K, and works fine at 1440p but I feel like it doesn't do a great job of dealing with 720p > 1080p. I hope this game is better at it so I can play with more RT settings

SpeedStars
12-09-2020, 04:10 PM
3070 with ultra settings and ray tracing im pumping a solid 60+fps at 1440p if anyone was curious.

EDIT: NOT A TI

Reassuring to hear as the toms hardware chart made it look like the 3070 would barely be able to run ultra 1080 60FPS with RTX on

Teriyaki
12-09-2020, 04:10 PM
3070 with ultra settings and ray tracing im pumping a solid 60+fps at 1440p if anyone was curious.

EDIT: NOT A TI

But...there is no such thing as a 3070ti? SeemsGood

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 04:11 PM
Is that with DLSS or not?

And 3070 ti, what?

Has to be DLSS.

I have a 3080 and I'm on 1440p high without RT/DLSS and I barely push out 80 in smaller areas.

EDIT: I should mention that I'm using custom preset, not the high preset. I meant high as in everything is set to high and all the options turned on minus RT/DLSS.

radioman
12-09-2020, 04:19 PM
Dlss was defaulted to auto

I'll be honest, I was expecting the game itself to look better. My character looks like it lacks detail compared to the surroundings

ime2006
12-09-2020, 04:28 PM
FINALLLY !!! 2 more Mins !!!!

https://i.imgur.com/nt9IBDP.jpg

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 04:28 PM
Turn off DLSS. There's a noticeable difference in character quality, especially if you look at yourself in the mirror if you start off in the Corpo path.

https://imgur.com/a/L96iRJB

Might help to bump up the sharpness using NVIDIA control panel if you use DLSS.

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 04:33 PM
DLSS off vs DLSS Auto (DLSS Quality looks bad too, I checked)

Definitely looks like garbage (click in for full res if you have to)

https://i.imgur.com/dYxDQG7.jpg

Mini rant:

NVIDIA has reviewers and youtubers super overhyping DLSS, because they test it in the best setting possible. So "it actually looks better than native res" becomes part of the hive mind, even though it's not true at all at anything other than those settings. To everyone else, you're basically playing at a lower than native resolution.

This is why it's so disappointing that most good hardware review sites are gone, and replaced by youtubers and then that easily gets spread through social media. Manufacturers are loving it though, so good for them

If I posted that on reddit, I'd get downvoted to oblivion, because "it actually looks better than native res" is their reality. I mean if they don't notice it, good for them I guess, but it's kind of frustrating when reality gets rewritten by fiction right before my eyes.

Hondaracer
12-09-2020, 05:00 PM
no spoilers here please but keep posting the reviews with your specs lol...

Mr.Money
12-09-2020, 05:13 PM
the ray tracing is insane, when you get driving during day light hours in a city look at the reflection in the car window



can't wait for that 3070 install later in the week.

ime2006
12-09-2020, 05:19 PM
My specs

I7 8700K @ stock speed
16GB Ram
EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra

Graphics setting: MAX on everything @ 4K Res
DLSS: Quality
RT: On
HDR: On

FPS is moving in between 30-42 FPS @ 4K Res, 90-105 FPS @ 1080P Res

https://i.imgur.com/ZH7Wxga.jpg

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 05:21 PM
Playing around with settings in the first scene... I'm on a Ryzen 3600X and RTX 3070 btw, no OC

1080p Ultra RT with DLSS has it hovering in the 50-60 range.

You have a choice - DLSS with RT, or native res without RT. And the RT is amazing in this game, so you're going to want to use DLSS and live with the soft look. This even applies to the 3080 and maybe even 3090, unless you're playing with a $1500 card at 1080p.

I am going to play around with the settings to try to get that to 70ish while keeping RT on.

Edit: The tough part is because of how DLSS works (I think), the framerate stabilizes a bit when you're not moving. So if you're just looking at your FPS, it will be higher when standing still. You'll have to move around a bit to determine if your settings are improving much.

So you might think you're getting a nice steady 60 fps, but as soon as you start moving, you'll see dips to 50 and below. That's why my goal is 70, I want those dips to be above 60.

Hondaracer
12-09-2020, 06:45 PM
FFS.. as Skinny mentioned my R9 390 is likely the base for kinda minimum playability seemingly reading toms hardware and elsehwhere.. also my i7 2600k gonna be a bottle neck..

uhggggggg... fucking spent like $600 on that card to basically play Fallout 4 at its limits and that's like the only game I got to run to its full capability now my PC is at the end of its life lol ... fuck

twitchyzero
12-09-2020, 07:18 PM
dlss as i undertand is just ai aliasing/checkerboard scaling, no?

parts of the image will look better while others suffer

sounds kinda similar to AI in smartphone photography, makes up for poor light sensitivity but will never match the real thing from a dedicated camera

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 07:34 PM
BTW make sure you're 100% happy with your character's appearance, because you can't change it later. And the lighting in the game is different from the character creation system, so your character will look different in the game.

Starting over, I think I can rush through the first mission again

Edit: thankfully the game starts you out looking in the mirror, so if you don't like the final results on the first scene, you should start over

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 07:53 PM
Was playing around and noticed that without DLSS, there's quite a bit of jagged edges.

Solution for me was to enable DLSS Quality. There's a slight softening as to be expected, so I used the NVIDIA Sharpen filter and it looks good to me now.

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 07:59 PM
Yes, use quality for sure. Auto looks bad and low looks like you're playing in 640x480 LUL

Also I disable motion blur but I suppose that's more personal preference than anything

Edit: good call on the sharpen filter. Never used that before

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 08:09 PM
Is there no way to tell ammo count other than opening your inventory and looking at the gun?

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 09:19 PM
OK I'm at the strip club and seeing like 20-30 fps now, this is not acceptable FeelsBadMan

Hondaracer
12-09-2020, 09:28 PM
Fuck, 20 FPS with an $800 video card?? :yuno:

This is hella disappointing as I really wanted to play ASAP..guess I’m in the same boat as Mike wait till the next gen version is released and buy the console with the game..will be far cheaper than attempting a computer upgrade

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 09:32 PM
Game is pretty unoptimized. Lots of people with issues on reddit. Hopefully it gets resolved.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/ka64im/one_setting_on_pc_tanks_performance_heres_how_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Gonna hop on my XSX and see how it runs there. My friend said it's smooth.

Jmac
12-09-2020, 09:40 PM
Did you guys install updated drivers before playing? Nvidia released new drivers today with Cyberpunk a main focus.

donk.
12-09-2020, 09:46 PM
Just set up my newlaptop

Rtx 2060
I7-10750h

High rez 35-45fps smooth
Ultra 20-35fps solid nope
Hour of gameplay, pretty solid so far, but yeah some gameplay issues, seems like its not 100%

Yet to update drivers and see if it makes any difference

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 09:46 PM
Did you guys install updated drivers before playing? Nvidia released new drivers today with Cyberpunk a main focus.
Yup

As far as bugs, I haven't noticed anything really bad. Some weird animations here and there, walking through doors before they opened, or saying dialog too soon, but nothing too bad

I'm curious what the relative settings are for XSX and PS5

ime2006
12-09-2020, 09:50 PM
Geez.....i had to drop it down from 4K to 1440P to have 50-70 fps...

RTX 3080 is not enough for RT 4K gaming...

So far, tried the following on DLSS

DLSS set to Quality, 4K res, only gets 30-40 FPS.
DLSS set to Best Performance, it bumps to 50-70 FPS.

DLSS Turned off , 3-10 FPS Its unplayable...(Is this a bug?)

SpeedStars
12-09-2020, 10:41 PM
5700XT/3600X I'm getting about a consistent 60fps at 1080p with a mix of ultra/high + dynamic CAS. Setting screen space reflections to psycho and everything on max with no CAS drops be down to like a locked 30fps.

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 11:09 PM
Played a little bit on my XSX and I can say that it's super smooth over there. I think if I wasn't already a few hours into the game on the computer, I'd just play on that instead. Of course, you sacrifice image quality, but the overall gaming experience is much more pleasant without all the random frame drops.

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 11:32 PM
Played a little bit on my XSX and I can say that it's super smooth over there. I think if I wasn't already a few hours into the game on the computer, I'd just play on that instead. Of course, you sacrifice image quality, but the overall gaming experience is much more pleasant without all the random frame drops.
You could just turn off RT settings and you'll have way better performance and graphics still

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 11:45 PM
There's definitely something wrong, wandering around outside my apartment door

1080p ultra RT preset (DLSS auto): 48 FPS
1080p ultra RT preset (DLSS off): 45 FPS
1080p ultra RT off (DLSS auto): 66 fps
1080p ultra RT off (DLSS off): 66 fps

Razor Ramon HG
12-09-2020, 11:48 PM
You could just turn off RT settings and you'll have way better performance and graphics still

Nah, I already have RT off.

I'm currently running the game at 1440p, raytracing off, DLSS on quality, and everything else on or set to high.

I'll get occasional dips into 60s when there's more people and objects on the screen and that's when I start noticing choppiness and judder. It's not just this game though, any time my framerate drops under 70ish, I notice it.

Not sure if this is something that adaptive refresh rate is supposed to fix because the range on my monitor is 48-144.

Over on my television, the same 60FPS runs smooth as butter. Probably something to do with the way 60 divides in 144 or something.

SkinnyPupp
12-09-2020, 11:54 PM
Your XBOX must be running at 30 fps though no?

Razor Ramon HG
12-10-2020, 12:00 AM
XSX runs it at 60FPS on performance mode. On quality mode, it's 30FPS.

Oddly enough, I was reading the PS5 doesn't have that option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvtPgetQ0VI&t

EDIT: With that said though, when my frame rates are above 70FPS, the game plays amazingly smooth. Just nitpicking about the frame drops I guess.

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 12:41 AM
Yeah I can't get it to run at a playable framerate with RT on... I think I'll wait for a patch before playing the game again FeelsBadMan

20-30 fps while driving, it's pretty much impossible

Setting everything to LOW with RT on, still tanks the FPS. That cascade shadows setting doesn't change anything.

I tried reinstalling the drivers (no idea why this would ever work, but might as well) but nope

Similar thing happened with Valhalla except we discovered setting it to windowed mode fixed it. No such luck here

Maybe Ray Tracing is just literally unplayable today? Even with a 3070 at 1080p?

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 05:00 AM
I think there might be an issue with AMD CPUs

I checked out Cohh streaming the game, and it looks super smooth on his 3080 rig running at "Psycho" settings at 1440p.

Then I see this, updated benchmarks from toms hardware, using another Intel rig

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/iW2DAmFXevUbqChWGssuFg-970-80.png

He's testing right outside the apartment, just like I did. Using the exact same settings, he's getting 57-67 FPS, while I get 30-40.

Will have to look into this more

Vansterdam
12-10-2020, 06:55 AM
hope the 1080ti's wont blow up trying to 4k on medium :lol

Id be happy if my 1080ti can handle this on medium 1440P lol

Razor Ramon HG
12-10-2020, 08:29 AM
I think there might be an issue with AMD CPUs

I checked out Cohh streaming the game, and it looks super smooth on his 3080 rig running at "Psycho" settings at 1440p.

Then I see this, updated benchmarks from toms hardware, using another Intel rig

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/iW2DAmFXevUbqChWGssuFg-970-80.png

He's testing right outside the apartment, just like I did. Using the exact same settings, he's getting 57-67 FPS, while I get 30-40.

Will have to look into this more

Could be possible. I'm running a 3600X.

CPU utilization was around 50-55% when I was checking. Definitely not an issue with the GPU, that shit is getting taxed almost always 100%.

ime2006
12-10-2020, 09:21 AM
I think there might be an issue with AMD CPUs

I checked out Cohh streaming the game, and it looks super smooth on his 3080 rig running at "Psycho" settings at 1440p.

Then I see this, updated benchmarks from toms hardware, using another Intel rig

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/iW2DAmFXevUbqChWGssuFg-970-80.png

He's testing right outside the apartment, just like I did. Using the exact same settings, he's getting 57-67 FPS, while I get 30-40.

Will have to look into this more

Thats exactly what i got too. the numbers are right on

Razor Ramon HG
12-10-2020, 09:32 AM
ime2006, what is your CPU and CPU utilization when playing the game?

ime2006
12-10-2020, 09:53 AM
ime2006, what is your CPU and CPU utilization when playing the game?

My theater rig is running with i7 8700K @ stock
I didn't check CPU usage during the game. I will have to check it again after work today.
And i think there won't be much of different in between 8700,9700,10700,10900

I also have my desktop rig with 2600K OC'ed 4.8ghz
Maybe i should pop in rtx 3080 with 2600k, see how it runs.
I saw few of us here also running on 2600K, this will have good idea, to see how this game run on 2600k with 3080


Now, I wonder how RTX 3080 TI will perform

Traum
12-10-2020, 12:01 PM
I'm sure you guys have come across this glitch already LOL~

NSFW warning:

https://twitter.com/ConorFoShaw/status/1336683477606002688

https://twitter.com/FiskyBizniz/status/1336696420699660288

https://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fwi5gpfbou7461.jpg

Razor Ramon HG
12-10-2020, 12:17 PM
Already knew what it was gonna be before I clicked on it

:lol

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 12:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/CR80cDM.jpg

My CPU % is around 40-45% and GPU around 65-70% (double checked with Afterburner)

When I set it to 4K (using DSR) GPU% goes up to 99% (but frame rate around 40 fps in this scene)

1330P (1.5 native res) gets 90% but 47 FPS

Edit:

https://i.imgur.com/ffjD1x6.jpg

4K DSR = 41 FPS, 99% GPU%

https://i.imgur.com/69Ugjlg.jpg

1080p = 43 FPS, 60% GPU%

:fulloffuck:

MarkyMark
12-10-2020, 01:01 PM
This thread has cemented my position on how much easier it is to just get a console and enjoy it as it is lol. Yeah it might not look as pretty but I turn it on and don't think twice about whether I should tweak this or that, and I just enjoy the game.

I'll probably pick up the PS5 version mid to late 2021 when all the patches have rolled out.

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 01:15 PM
This thread has cemented my position on how much easier it is to just get a console and enjoy it as it is lol. Yeah it might not look as pretty but I turn it on and don't think twice about whether I should tweak this or that, and I just enjoy the game.

I'll probably pick up the PS5 version mid to late 2021 when all the patches have rolled out.
Thing is, I could just turn off RT and get console quality and play at 70 fps

But I bought this GPU and game to enjoy the amazing graphics, that's why I keep trying to get it to work! WutFace

MarkyMark
12-10-2020, 01:46 PM
Thing is, I could just turn off RT and get console quality and play at 70 fps

But I bought this GPU and game to enjoy the amazing graphics, that's why I keep trying to get it to work! WutFace

Oh I totally get it, I just think I'd drive myself nuts always trying to get the most out of my setup, always checking how many fps it's running at and why it's not doing better with what I have. Sometimes "this is what you get" can make the game more enjoyable lol

Razor Ramon HG
12-10-2020, 01:50 PM
You guys see the videos of the game running on last generation?

Surprised CDPR even released it for those consoles. It's actually so bad.

A few videos uploaded to Twitter on these accounts.

https://twitter.com/MichaelDoesLife

https://twitter.com/Legolas

Here's a video from Digital Foundry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pHpQqhmR4

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 01:58 PM
Oh I totally get it, I just think I'd drive myself nuts always trying to get the most out of my setup, always checking how many fps it's running at and why it's not doing better with what I have. Sometimes "this is what you get" can make the game more enjoyable lol
The thing is until now, consoles never even offered modes that I find to be playable... 30 FPS is totally unacceptable to me, and 60 is bare minimum.

With a PC I can always tweak the game to get what I want. On a console, games are either literally unplayable, or not as good as I'd like, with no way to make it better.

It's up to the game devs to deliver a functioning game, and lately they seem to have had some issues doing that. It's 2020 so I can't complain too much, but it's kind of frustrating.

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 01:59 PM
Good news! (edit: kinda)

I remembered that I had similar performance problems with RDR2, and had to update the BIOS to fix it

So I updated the BIOS

Game runs better now

Edit: After further testing, it's better, but still chunky. It looked so smooth when I started the game though

FeelsBadMan

twitchyzero
12-10-2020, 02:44 PM
i prefer image quality over performance for campaign/story mode
24p is fine for me, 'cinematic' lol

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 03:05 PM
24 fps is fine when you don't have to interact with anything, but if you can handle that kind of lag between what your hands do and what your eyes see, all the power to ya... For me I get nauseous just thinking about it LUL

twitchyzero
12-10-2020, 03:10 PM
poor guy's vega64 blew up trying to run crysis of 2020

https://i.redd.it/97stssfa0a461.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ka76s6/happy_cyberpunk_day_my_vega_64_celebrated_by/

Koflach
12-10-2020, 04:05 PM
FFS.. as Skinny mentioned my R9 390 is likely the base for kinda minimum playability seemingly reading toms hardware and elsehwhere.. also my i7 2600k gonna be a bottle neck..

uhggggggg... fucking spent like $600 on that card to basically play Fallout 4 at its limits and that's like the only game I got to run to its full capability now my PC is at the end of its life lol ... fuck

This is why i stopped chasing my tail with playing games on PC and am just sticking to console. Even though I enjoy playing on the PC more, it's just too expensive to keep upgrading.

SpeedStars
12-10-2020, 04:10 PM
Have any of you guys noticed any weird glitches? Ive been getting pretty weird asset pop ins such as characters T posing pretty often and random objects such as phones or chopsticks would just float. Hoping that moving the game from an hdd to ssd might help.

ilovebacon
12-10-2020, 04:38 PM
god, this game is awful on ps4...

Koflach
12-10-2020, 05:19 PM
god, this game is awful on ps4...

Yeah, I have the game coming in but i'm really considering putting it on a shelf until my PS5 arrives.

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 05:27 PM
This is why i stopped chasing my tail with playing games on PC and am just sticking to console. Even though I enjoy playing on the PC more, it's just too expensive to keep upgrading.
It's a 5 year old $300 GPU... Look at how the game plays on 5 year old $400 consoles

Hondaracer
12-10-2020, 05:39 PM
And my entire computer is probably reaching 9+ years old or more now, so I’m not too upset. Probably the best computer I ever owned in terms of longevity and staying near the top end for most of its life.

I recently picked up a new hobby that I’m into for a few k so I won’t be building a new computer anytime soon lol :okay:

Eh that PS4 video doesn’t seem too bad.. if my r9 would be better than that I’d be ok with it..maybe.. lol

Ch28
12-10-2020, 06:44 PM
Radeon 5600XT gets me 1080p medium settings with great smoothness (haven't bothered to log FPS)

I had a PS4 version pre-ordered from last year and I'm glad I cancelled it and ended up buying it from GOG instead. I'd be so upset if I bought the PS4 version and saw how much shittier it runs compared to the other versions available.

ilovebacon
12-10-2020, 06:52 PM
Sony has a shitty return policy too. You might as well save up for the next gen xbox

Yeah, I have the game coming in but i'm really considering putting it on a shelf until my PS5 arrives.

Mr.Money
12-10-2020, 08:16 PM
the game is most likely an un-optimized piece of shit right, i'm gonna hold off on it now till some updates come out..

then again,look at AAA titles like red dead redemption 2 on pc that still seems to run like shit with GTA.


do these studios really care to invest anymore in there game once its out?.

ime2006
12-10-2020, 08:34 PM
Finally, got RTX 3080 popped into 2600K rig....

Maxed out + RT on
4K + DLSS set to Quality
25-35 FPS

4K + DLSS set to Ultra Performance
36-62 FPS

1080P + DLSS set to Quality
41-58 FPS

1080P + DLSS set to Ultra pefromance
42 - 65 FPS

Looks like 4K FPS with DLSS, does not have huge different between 2600K and 8700K

SkinnyPupp
12-10-2020, 10:05 PM
CDPR is pretty well known for supporting their broken games for a long time after release date LUL

They needed to delay this another 6 months to have it working properly, but you can consider this basically the Release Candidate. Play it now, or wait 6 months for the actual final version.

Sucks I know, but covid

SpeedStars
12-11-2020, 12:16 AM
Got the game to finally run at a stable 75 FPS. The hard hitters for FPS seem to be any of the shadow settings + volumetric cloud+fog settings. Turned those all to medium and it's a much better experience now. I barely notice the difference graphically, but definitely notice the smoothness

SkinnyPupp
12-11-2020, 01:51 AM
BTW when talking about performance, it would be a good idea if we all talked about the same area. I can get up to 75 FPS if I'm in certain areas without a lot of people or lighting effects

Toms hardware used the area outside the apartment, so IMO we should use that when sharing performance results. I'll post a screenshot

https://i.imgur.com/83kagZ9.jpg

SpeedStars
12-11-2020, 02:56 AM
https://i.imgur.com/hUGSXPT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dwINxuw.png

I'm still getting some dips into the low 60s while driving around the major areas, but otherwise has been fine. Right outside of the apartments I'm getting between 68-75fps with these settings.

SkinnyPupp
12-11-2020, 03:18 AM
Must be nice FeelsBadMan

I've tried everything I can think of, all I can do is wait for a patch

Razor Ramon HG
12-11-2020, 03:21 AM
https://i.imgur.com/mpMZiTD.png

https://i.imgur.com/x9xy4Nm.png

https://i.imgur.com/kvib7Hf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rCtwOiQ.jpg

Here are my screenshots and settings.

First image at 63 FPS is with high crowd density.

Second image at 78 FPS is with medium crowd density.

Resolution is 1440p. System is a 3600X + RTX 3080.

SpeedStars
12-11-2020, 03:57 AM
Is your 3600 OC'd at all? I had some pretty bad dips and played around with the OC today + set the game on high priority. Made such a big difference

Hondaracer
12-11-2020, 06:39 AM
looks like a beautiful game when the settings are cranked up

roastpuff
12-11-2020, 08:16 AM
I'm getting a solid 40-60FPS with a 3600X + 3070, 1440FPS, RTX on, most settings on high (cascaded shadows on medium). Will post settings and screenshot later.

Dips down to <30 FPS for cutscenes though, odd.

mikemhg
12-11-2020, 08:33 AM
This thread has cemented my position on how much easier it is to just get a console and enjoy it as it is lol. Yeah it might not look as pretty but I turn it on and don't think twice about whether I should tweak this or that, and I just enjoy the game.

I'll probably pick up the PS5 version mid to late 2021 when all the patches have rolled out.

This is somewhat why I took myself out of PC Gaming. My neurotic mind could never just chill on my settings and current PC setup. Always trying to tweak, never thinking it was perfect, drove me fucking nuts :lol

mikemhg
12-11-2020, 08:39 AM
Are people actually complaining about PS4 performance?

It's an 8 year old system, jesus :lol

I understand that they need to release it on the consoles that the majority of people own, but damn, there has to be a limit to that. At some point the umbilical cord must be cut.

This game is truly next gen, if you're a past-gen owner, you shouldn't be whining that the game looks like shit on it.

Jmac
12-11-2020, 10:08 AM
I asked my friend who got it for PS4 Pro and he said it plays fine. Obviously graphics aren’t as good as new gen/PC but he says it’s smooth and similar graphics to other AAA titles for PS4.

I could definitely understand base PS4/XB1/XB1S having major issues but PS4 Pro/XB1X should be playable.

SkinnyPupp
12-11-2020, 10:39 AM
Are people actually complaining about PS4 performance?

It's an 8 year old system, jesus :lol

I understand that they need to release it on the consoles that the majority of people own, but damn, there has to be a limit to that. At some point the umbilical cord must be cut.

This game is truly next gen, if you're a past-gen owner, you shouldn't be whining that the game looks like shit on it.
A few things to consider

-The game was announced before those consoles even came out
-One of the game's original release dates was before the new gen consoles were even announced

I guess it becomes "just don't play it if you don't have the hardware" but honestly I'm shocked this game was even certified for base consoles.

mikemhg
12-11-2020, 11:22 AM
Meh, GTA5 also played like garbage on the PS3. Dragon Age Inquisition was also garbage on the PS3.

It should known by now that once you get to the end of a console's given era, and a new one is announced (as the PS5 was), it's pretty much game over.

Cyberpunk 2077 was touted as being a visual masterpiece, the developers were fully aware of PS5's concept and imminent release much prior to its actual release date. Knowing that, why would CDPR want to nerf their game for a near obsolete platform?

It seems silly.

I get it's somewhat unfair, but in every console era those last games released that fall onto both generations, they always end up playing like crap on the prior. I look forward to when devs can finally stop placating to old tech, and actually give us a true next-gen game. Might be a while.

Mr.Money
12-11-2020, 01:54 PM
https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37043/hotfix-1-04


anymore fps or nah

SkinnyPupp
12-11-2020, 03:09 PM
https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37043/hotfix-1-04


anymore fps or nah
Downloading now but based on the patch notes I don't see much on performance

ime2006
12-11-2020, 03:25 PM
https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37043/hotfix-1-04


anymore fps or nah

Performance & Stability
Improved stability, including various crash fixes.

SkinnyPupp
12-11-2020, 03:26 PM
Nope, still 30-40 fps outside the apartment

Fucking people on reddit claiming like 20-30 FPS increase FailFish

That's why I made sure if we're going to compare frame rates, do it in the same place always

SkinnyPupp
12-11-2020, 03:48 PM
Switched to Dev Channel for Windows Insider builds...

If this doesn't work the next step is do a dedicated Windows install on another drive and just use that for the game

ime2006
12-11-2020, 04:16 PM
Nope, still 30-40 fps outside the apartment

Fucking people on reddit claiming like 20-30 FPS increase FailFish

That's why I made sure if we're going to compare frame rates, do it in the same place always

Those people from reddit, they are more like on Butt Dyno......

I don't think its that much of increase. I will test it out when i get home.

GGnoRE
12-11-2020, 05:15 PM
Cyberpunk 2077 was touted as being a visual masterpiece, the developers were fully aware of PS5's concept and imminent release much prior to its actual release date. Knowing that, why would CDPR want to nerf their game for a near obsolete platform?


Probably for money lol

Mr.Money
12-11-2020, 05:36 PM
imagine blowing 80 dollars on a ps4 copy and this..
https://9gag.com/gag/aNg69o6

MarkyMark
12-11-2020, 05:37 PM
It's definitely money. Everyone and their grandma owns a PS4 or an Xbox One, while barely anyone owns a PS5 or Series X. That's a shit load of pre orders and day one sales lost to not include them.

It's going to be another year or so before developers stop trying to cash in on the old gen.

twitchyzero
12-11-2020, 07:41 PM
you alienate too many fans by releasing it on the current-gen that's only 1 month old

besides, the game was announced 8 years ago

holy crap i just realized star citizen is still in development FeelsBadMan

Ch28
12-11-2020, 08:10 PM
I'm about 10 hours into the game and night city is pretty boring outside of all the same little side missions they have littered all over.

The fact that you can't even get tattoos or hair cuts or change your appearance in a game about cybernetic mods is absolutely ridiculous.

SkinnyPupp
12-11-2020, 08:59 PM
Now fucking Valhalla won't start :fuckthatshit:

Edit: Reverted from the dev build of windows, works again

WutFace

underscore
12-12-2020, 12:09 AM
So eight and a half years wait for a game that runs like dog shit on anything that isn't incredibly expensive?

SkinnyPupp
12-12-2020, 02:19 AM
I'm 99% sure there's something causing the CPU to choke under load during scenes like the one in front of the apartment (and other clubs with lots of neon)

This is something I suspected a few pages ago, because GPU load was really low, and also the sources claiming good performance in that area are on Intel CPUs.

Once you get to other areas, the GPU load hits the expected 99% and the game performs fine.

I think most of this was caused by the game putting you in these flashy places right away, so instead of enjoying the atmosphere, we're left wondering why the performance is so bad. Of course if you're used to consoles, you just accept it and assume that's just how it is. For me, it was way below my expectations, and my hype levels were high.

I'll be installing a better cooler on this CPU soon, so I'll be able to overclock a bit. If this part of the game responds highly to overclocking, you know it's a CPU issue.

It's also possible that something is wrong, and a patch will be released to address the CPU getting bogged down

I've been posting here a lot because I've been sharing every step of the way. So maybe that makes it look worse than it is LUL also I am really picky about frame rate, I can't stand low FPS on a mouse, and I straight up don't like using controllers in 3d games, so... I'm just picky that way, I think most people will be fine.

SpeedStars
12-12-2020, 02:32 AM
Low GPU usage would mean a CPU bottleneck wouldn't it? My 3600x never goes past 55% usage. I've got a 240mm rad + 4.2ghz all core OC which I think could explain the difference in frame consistency between your experience and mine

SkinnyPupp
12-12-2020, 02:51 AM
Low GPU usage would mean a CPU bottleneck wouldn't it? My 3600x never goes past 55% usage. I've got a 240mm rad + 4.2ghz all core OC which I think could explain the difference in frame consistency between your experience and mine
Theoretically, yeah... Usually it would only come up with low settings and low resolution though - Raytracing should be taxing the GPU before the CPU ever comes into play, even at 1080p. Also the game loads the GPU properly in other areas... So it seems to me that it is likely a bug causing the issue. It's not like the 3600X is outdated by any means

SkinnyPupp
12-12-2020, 04:35 AM
https://i.imgur.com/BOVZ7nr.png

ime2006
12-12-2020, 09:26 AM
When i tested it on i7-2600K

My CPU usage only in between 45-60%

SkinnyPupp
12-12-2020, 12:44 PM
Looks like my suspicions of AMD issues may be confirmed... Found this on reddit

Here's a bit of background. Back when AMD used to sell FX series CPUs, they have come under fire for mismarketing their products. The issue was that their "8-core" CPUs is very misleading and should've been marketed as 4-core 8 thread CPUs, or 4-core with hyperthreading CPUs. Same with other core count variations. The other issue was that they tried to hide the fact from software, which meant that when programs tried to check how many cores and threads the CPU has, it would misreport as having "8-cores 8-threads" instead of "4-cores 8-threads" (assuming our "8-core" CPU example). However, AMD remedied the issue on the Ryzen series CPUs.

...

The new code calculates the number of threads by checking the reported thread count. Then it would check if an AMD CPU is installed. If an AMD CPU is installed, it would then check if a FX CPU is installed. If it's both an AMD and FX, it would use the thread count that the CPU reports (which is identical to Intel, despite FX CPUs misreporting) If it's an AMD CPU, but not a FX CPU (so CPUs like Ryzen), it use the reported core count to count the number of threads (which is also incorrect because Ryzen properly reports thread count if I am correct). So on the new code, if a 4-core 8-thread Intel CPU is installed, then it would report "8" as the number of threads. if a 4-core 8-thread AMD Ryzen CPU is installed, then it would report "4" as the number of threads. If an "8-core" AMD FX CPU is installed, it would report "8" as the number of threads.

TLDR: There's a check in the EXE that causes AMD CPUs to only use half available threads. So a 6 core 12 thread CPU will only use 6 threads.

The solution:

Open the Cyberpunk.exe with HXD (Hex Editor).

Look for

75 30 33 C9 B8 01 00 00 00 0F A2 8B C8 C1 F9 08

change to

EB 30 33 C9 B8 01 00 00 00 0F A2 8B C8 C1 F9 08

(Address 02A816B0)

I'll try this later today. People report that their overall FPS doesn't change, but their minimum went up. This goes exactly in line with the issues I've been having - only certain areas are bottoming out, like outside the apartment.

Update:

https://i.imgur.com/m7Trpv9.jpg

60 FPS up from 40, GPU% 92% instead of 50%

SeemsGood

Razor Ramon HG
12-12-2020, 01:38 PM
Yep, my CPU utilization is now around 85-90. FPS improvement in front of the apartments is not as significant as others, but this is more likely due to me playing at 1440p vs 1080p.

Will play and see if I still notice those frame drops when driving around the city.

Ch28
12-12-2020, 06:13 PM
I'm running a Ryzen 5 3600 with Radeon 5600 XT and consistently get 60+ FPS based on what the Radeon software is telling me.

roastpuff
12-12-2020, 07:01 PM
Looks like my suspicions of AMD issues may be confirmed... Found this on reddit



TLDR: There's a check in the EXE that causes AMD CPUs to only use half available threads. So a 6 core 12 thread CPU will only use 6 threads.

The solution:



I'll try this later today. People report that their overall FPS doesn't change, but their minimum went up. This goes exactly in line with the issues I've been having - only certain areas are bottoming out, like outside the apartment.

Update:



60 FPS up from 40, GPU% 92% instead of 50%

SeemsGood
We cyberpunk hacking for real now, choombas.

Hondaracer
12-12-2020, 09:11 PM
When i tested it on i7-2600K

My CPU usage only in between 45-60%

what video card?

ime2006
12-12-2020, 10:23 PM
what video card?

RTX 3080

GLOW
12-13-2020, 12:16 PM
i was reading this game isn't too bad on stadia (probably via hard wired connection)

ime2006
12-13-2020, 01:15 PM
Now, i am settled with 1440P, MAX setting, DLSS set to Quality.
Getting constant 50-70 FPS.

Now, i can enjoy the game.


For AMD CPUs, Just saw this on google. (Should be the same fix from Skinny's post.)
Reddit's patch for Cyberpunk 2077 yields double-digit performance gains on AMD CPUs
https://www.techspot.com/news/87947-reddit-patch-cyberpunk-2077-yields-double-digit-performance.html

SkinnyPupp
12-13-2020, 06:33 PM
Some more h4x (https://old.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kccabx/hey_cd_projekt_red_i_think_you_shipped_the_wrong/) to maybe get more performance. I quickly tried it, and now it's 60-70 fps in front of the apartment, combined with the AMD SMT fix (up from 40 fps)

Driving seems smoother, staying above 60 fps most of the time, but it did dip a few times.

I didn't do back to back comparisons though, so it might not do a thing

ime2006
12-13-2020, 09:36 PM
This is exactly how i feel right now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQDtCKl0BWo

$_$
12-14-2020, 01:13 PM
I played the game on stadia and was surprised at how good it was. It lagged at certain areas but was totally playable. returned it due to me actually enjoying watching streams vs actually playing the game though but would recommend it to people that don't have higher end spec cpus

SkinnyPupp
12-14-2020, 03:34 PM
OpenCritic adds a warning to their CyberPunk review, about how CDPR manipulated the review system to give the game a high score (https://opencritic.com/news/2000/they-knew-it-was-wrong-cd-projekt-red-deceived-consumers-anyway-) by hiding the console version from reviewers before the game came out.

https://twitter.com/Open_Critic/status/1338502656931860481

CDPR admits they know they game was not finished, allows mass refunds. Sony apparently are not accepting these refunds so you have to try to do it directly with them

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1338390123373801472

SpeedStars
12-14-2020, 08:00 PM
Not sure if anyone else here is using an AMD card, but the hair and shadows at night were extremely blurry for me no matter what setting I used. The meshes on the cars made them actually look fuzzy. Apparently screen space reflections is bugged/poorly optimized for AMD GPUs. Turning it off made the game so much more clearer. Don't think this applies to RTX cards though.

Vansterdam
12-14-2020, 08:58 PM
fyi u can get this game on PC for like 34$ if u set ur VPN to Russia and buy off GOG lol

donno if it still works but https://forums.redflagdeals.com/gogcom-hot-pc-cyberpunk-2077-34cad-2407316/

ilovebacon
12-14-2020, 09:13 PM
For all those ps4 and xbox users, are you guys planning on getting a refund? I feel like giving them a chance since they announce that they would patch it up again in FEB.

Jmac
12-14-2020, 09:47 PM
For all those ps4 and xbox users, are you guys planning on getting a refund? I feel like giving them a chance since they announce that they would patch it up again in FEB.
You can always buy it again in February.

Ch28
12-15-2020, 09:07 PM
For all those ps4 and xbox users, are you guys planning on getting a refund? I feel like giving them a chance since they announce that they would patch it up again in FEB.

CDPR issued that refund statement without even consulting Microsoft or Sony. Explains why so many people are complaining that their refunds got denied :lawl:

SkinnyPupp
12-15-2020, 09:46 PM
Anyone know of a cheat to bypass the shitty hacking minigame?

SkinnyPupp
12-15-2020, 09:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7DHe6gd.png

Typical Cyberpunk screenshot. Quest requires me to phone the NPC with info. The only choice is to hang up on them.

Edit: Unlike other quests throughout the game, you have to use text messaging with this quest FailFish

Razor Ramon HG
12-16-2020, 12:36 AM
All the cyberpsycho ones are like that. Took me a while to figure out what was going on. Have to find the shards and then text her using the phone.

SkinnyPupp
12-16-2020, 01:09 AM
Yeah the game is so buggy all I could do was assume it was another one LUL

I have to restart the game occasionally, because guns literally stop working.

roastpuff
12-16-2020, 09:10 AM
Yeah the game is so buggy all I could do was assume it was another one LUL

I have to restart the game occasionally, because guns literally stop working.

For the can't-pull-out-guns bug, go visit a joytoy. They'll help you clear your jammed guns. :pokerface:

(No really, for some reason visiting a joytoy and doing the thing fixes that bug.)

SkinnyPupp
12-16-2020, 02:33 PM
I can pull the guns out, they just don't shoot. Although sometimes they shoot in hipfire but not aim down sights. But sometimes they ONLY shoot in aim down sight, and not hipfire. And sometimes it's only one gun, sometimes it's all of them. Restarting the game fixes it

donk.
12-16-2020, 09:41 PM
16hrs in, this game is pretty shweet, lovin the tech sniper rifles and cruisin in hypercars to scremo-trance music enjoying the city visuals

Can add to glitch list
No fire sniper
Two cars inside of each other doing 360s
Standing in moving car
Crashing off motorcycle, then being frozen on the highway
Managing to kill one of the quest ally characters on purpose, and not being able to receive the required item
Having to ride up and down the elevator twice to get the quest to properly load direction
Calling my motorbike, and it killing me on impact

Roastpuff knows whats up, and if you picked a female character, and choose a female joytoy, then you get the..... :ifyouknow:

jonwon
12-16-2020, 10:44 PM
Is it worth it to turn on ray tracing if you're only planning to play on 1080p? Or even DLSS for that matter?

SkinnyPupp
12-16-2020, 11:37 PM
Is it worth it to turn on ray tracing if you're only planning to play on 1080p? Or even DLSS for that matter?
I wouldn't touch this game without ray tracing lol

as for DLSS, depends on what you care about more, visual quality, or frame rate. I don't think many cards can pull off even 1080p full quality without DLSS though, so it's kind of necessary. Make sure to use quality mode if you do.

SkinnyPupp
12-16-2020, 11:38 PM
Roastpuff knows whats up, and if you picked a female character, and choose a female joytoy, then you get the..... :ifyouknow:

You get the what? My female character has a dick so it might be different LUL

jonwon
12-17-2020, 12:06 PM
I wouldn't touch this game without ray tracing lol

as for DLSS, depends on what you care about more, visual quality, or frame rate. I don't think many cards can pull off even 1080p full quality without DLSS though, so it's kind of necessary. Make sure to use quality mode if you do.

Yup I have it on quality mode right now for DLSS.

Just not sure if ray tracing is worth the massive drop in FPS

SkinnyPupp
12-17-2020, 01:11 PM
Without Ray Tracing this looks like a 2018 game KEKW

But if the drop is really bad, I understand. Maybe set it to medium and disable RT shadows

donk.
12-17-2020, 01:43 PM
You get the what? My female character has a dick so it might be different LUL

https://i.gifer.com/MfSi.gif

SkinnyPupp
12-17-2020, 02:04 PM
Kreygasm

SkinnyPupp
12-17-2020, 04:22 PM
Cyberpunk removed from Sony store, full refunds will be given

https://twitter.com/AskPlayStation/status/1339737360184078336

Ch28
12-18-2020, 11:24 AM
CD Projekt Red announces sweeping 'Cyberpunk 2077' refund plan (https://www.engadget.com/cyberpunk-2077-cd-projekt-red-return-policy-201145944.html)

The fallout from Cyberpunk 2077’s buggy release continues. Developer CD Projekt Red says its intention is to offer a refund to everyone who purchased a physical copy of the game or a digital one at retail, even if it means paying for the expense out of its own pocket.

If the retailer you bought the game at won’t give you a refund, the company asks that you email it at helpmerefund@cdprojektred.com with valid proof of purchase. You have until December 21st to contact the company about getting your money back. If you’ve already emailed CD Projekt Red about a refund and haven’t heard back yet, the studio says not to worry. It notes it’s sending out confirmation notices in waves. It will send out an email detailing next steps once the refund window closes on December 21st.

The part about "even if it means paying for the expense out of its own pocket" is ridiculous. That's the whole point of trying to scam consumers with a game that's half done.

SkinnyPupp
12-18-2020, 03:14 PM
My copy was a gift but I don't think I'd refund it anyway. I'll probably stop playing it though, because I think it's going to be quite a bit better when it's actually finished.

Right now as far as the actual game, there are some really good parts, and really bad parts. And of course it looks great. Mostly it just seems unfinished though, IMO.

Ch28
12-18-2020, 03:23 PM
My copy was a gift but I don't think I'd refund it anyway. I'll probably stop playing it though, because I think it's going to be quite a bit better when it's actually finished.

Right now as far as the actual game, there are some really good parts, and really bad parts. And of course it looks great. Mostly it just seems unfinished though, IMO.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm running it on an RX 5600XT and it looks great so far (obviously not as nice as some of your guy's rigs) so it has that going for it. Probably going to pick up AC Valhalla and play that while this game gets put on the backburner until it gets fixed. The overall main story is pretty good so far, but there's a lot left for them to patch/add.

SkinnyPupp
12-18-2020, 03:39 PM
https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/status/1339983446865801224

XBOX always had a good refund policy - 100% refund if you play less than 2 hours. This is why they didn't need to pull from their store.. But in this case they're extending it to give refunds to anyone who asks.

underscore
12-18-2020, 10:10 PM
I'm curious what on earth they were thinking here. Did they think people wouldn't notice or something?

twitchyzero
12-18-2020, 11:04 PM
i think when game development hits 5 year mark they have to just consider releasing it otherwise they lose focus and increase feature creep
look at final fantasy xv that took 10 years
that shit would never fly in a western studio

SkinnyPupp
12-19-2020, 03:07 AM
I'm curious what on earth they were thinking here. Did they think people wouldn't notice or something?
They had "Gamers(tm)" on their side in full force, and thought nothing would flip on them. Look at the reactions ot the early reviews.. People went INSANE when there were bad reviews, issuing death threats to reviewers, etc.

CDPR had been harboring this kind of cultish fandom the whole time. It's how they got away with other crap like being gross about gender identities, etc

The bankers got greedy and pushed an unfinished game. The last delay was a scramble to get the current gen systems working, but they failed. They tried everything they could to obscure that fact, but it totally backfired on them.

You can tell who the real game reviewers are that are worth paying attention, based on the experiences they shared before and after release. Sites like Giant Bomb said from day 1 that the game was a buggy mess on PC, and while they couldn't share anything about the console versions since they didn't have them, the writing was on the wall. Other reviewers went full hype mode, giving nothing but glowing reviews, mentioning the bugs in passing or ignoring them.

A lot of egg on a lot of faces. Hopefully it'll only be the bankers that get fucked by all this, and not the devs themselves as much. They got greedy, took the opportunity to release an unfinished game before christmas, and it bit them in the ass.

mikemhg
12-19-2020, 11:47 AM
I just don't understand how publishers keep making the same damn mistake though?

We just saw how Anthem, Fallout 76, No Man's Sky, etc, all played out by rushing the title through.

Why couldn't they just delay this one until next year, and release it as a true next-gen title on the new consoles and PC only?

How many times do publishers need to rush a game out unfinished, only to end up having to offer refunds, and effectively kill the game's reputation long-term? CDPR will definitely fix this game, but the damage is already done. I think that damage would've been far less had this game been simply delayed once again until Q1/Q2 2021.

These idiot executives never learn.

SkinnyPupp
12-19-2020, 01:00 PM
Why couldn't they just delay this one until next year, and release it as a true next-gen title on the new consoles and PC only?


Because they wouldn't be able to buy that yacht this christmas.. Who wants to buy a yacht in 2021? WutFace

Hondaracer
12-19-2020, 04:16 PM
So my parents computer’s OS partition ate shit and I couldn’t repair by the typical way in removing defective drivers etc. So I’ve got it at my house with a clean install on a freshly formatted SSD.. their computer is relatively new:

I5 - 6600 @ 3.30ghz
16GB DDR4
And a GTX 1070

Basically I’ll have to install the game tonight and return the computer by New Years or so, if I want to play this game is it worth it to play it on this computer as the game currently sits?

Otherwise I’m waiting till I buy a console and that has no timeline lol

twitchyzero
12-19-2020, 04:30 PM
https://youtu.be/6bqA8F6B6NQ

maybe i'll just wait for a 3080 Ti :okay:

SkinnyPupp
12-19-2020, 05:17 PM
So my parents computer’s OS partition ate shit and I couldn’t repair by the typical way in removing defective drivers etc. So I’ve got it at my house with a clean install on a freshly formatted SSD.. their computer is relatively new:

I5 - 6600 @ 3.30ghz
16GB DDR4
And a GTX 1070

Basically I’ll have to install the game tonight and return the computer by New Years or so, if I want to play this game is it worth it to play it on this computer as the game currently sits?

Otherwise I’m waiting till I buy a console and that has no timeline lol
Right now there are very good things about the game

-The atmosphere is amazing. City looks cool and is varied
-Characters all look crazy and everyone you run across in missions is interesting. Your "friends" are all actually interesting and well written mostly. Random people are interesting to look at (but you'll see some repeats)
-Of course this is made better with ray tracing
-The story so far I think is good. Keanu is fucking great, and he's in here a lot

But that's where the undercooked part of the game comes in. Combat is dull, especially with buggy enemies who often just forget about you and stand there. The way the 2 methods of play combine (stealth and combat) isn't really cohesive.

The crafting system is dull, the interface is bad for it. Inventory, weapon management, etc, is all bad UI. Especially as someone learning to design UI, it's extra noticeable LUL

The city looks amazing but it's shallow. There's nothing to do but look at it. It doesn't feel lived in like a GTA or RDR. Everyone in the city is just a very obvious simple script.

That's about it for me. The potential is there for a great game. Maybe not one that lives up to the 8 years of hype, but a great game. Right now it's an okay game. If you play it now, you'd probably know if you want to play a better version of it later. I know I do.

Hondaracer
12-19-2020, 05:20 PM
Hmm thanks good points

Turns out he got the game for Xmas from our secret Santa exchange so I don’t really want to buy the game twice. Looks like I’m waiting

Jmac
12-20-2020, 04:20 AM
So my parents computer’s OS partition ate shit and I couldn’t repair by the typical way in removing defective drivers etc. So I’ve got it at my house with a clean install on a freshly formatted SSD.. their computer is relatively new:

I5 - 6600 @ 3.30ghz
16GB DDR4
And a GTX 1070

Basically I’ll have to install the game tonight and return the computer by New Years or so, if I want to play this game is it worth it to play it on this computer as the game currently sits?

Otherwise I’m waiting till I buy a console and that has no timeline lol
I have a similar setup: i7 6700K @ 4.2 GHz, 32 GB DDR4, GTX 1070

Obviously no ray tracing or DLSS on the GTX 1070.

On Medium settings at 1440p, most areas are in the mid-to-high 30 fps range with the occasional dip into the mid-20s in higher density areas.

The 6700K doesn't even come close to 100% (usually 50-60%) while the GTX 1070 is at 99+%. RAM generally hovers around 10 GB of usage.

For a consistent 60 fps, that's Low settings at 1080p. It looks a lot worse, IMO.

The good news is that most settings can be switched on the fly (without reloading the game), so if you know you're getting into a situation where you'll want a higher framerate, you can turn down those settings.

Jmac
12-20-2020, 09:36 PM
Update for 1.05

Walking from apartment to Tom’s Diner.
Texture Quality High, Field of View 100

1440p Ultra: Average 24 fps, Low 19 fps
1440p High: Average 27 fps, Low 21 fps
1440p Medium: Average 35 fps, Low 26 fps
1440p Low: Average 43 fps, Low 29 fps

1080p Ultra: Average 36 fps, Low 30 fps
1080p High: Average 41 fps, Low 31 fps
1080p Medium: Average 48 fps, Low 33 fps
1080p Low: Average 56 fps, Low 31 fps

1080p Low, TQ Low, FoV 70: 58 fps, Low 47 fps

With the lower texture quality and field of view on 1080p low, 1070 only runs at about 80% and it becomes CPU limited (and is blurry af).

dark0821
12-21-2020, 09:09 AM
damn all this talk is making me want to get the game... all my friends have it..

I think I will be doing the game a dishonor as my PC specs sucks

1060 6GB
Intel Core i5-8400
16GB DDR4

Yap.... @.@ fudge....

Hondaracer
12-21-2020, 10:47 AM
Is there any chance there will be Ray tracing on Xbox or Ps?

Razor Ramon HG
12-24-2020, 09:54 PM
So I just got an i7-10700K and decided to test what FPS I got in front of the apartments in front of the stalls.

I'm now hitting around 85-90 FPS on high density instead of 60-65 FPS with my 3600X.

While the Intel chip is better at gaming, I just remembered that I also had the PBO on my 3600X configured with a PPT limit.

Doh.

ilovebacon
12-24-2020, 11:19 PM
Is there any chance there will be Ray tracing on Xbox or Ps?

May if you have the latest consoles.

Hondaracer
12-30-2020, 08:19 AM
So my parents computer’s OS partition ate shit and I couldn’t repair by the typical way in removing defective drivers etc. So I’ve got it at my house with a clean install on a freshly formatted SSD.. their computer is relatively new:

I5 - 6600 @ 3.30ghz
16GB DDR4
And a GTX 1070

Basically I’ll have to install the game tonight and return the computer by New Years or so, if I want to play this game is it worth it to play it on this computer as the game currently sits?

Otherwise I’m waiting till I buy a console and that has no timeline lol

So I played about 2 hours on this rig, completely playable and did not take away from the experience at all imo as I’m ignorant to the difference between Ray tracing and not. I would be perfectly fine playing the game on this computer, graphics still looked great with very little to no slow downs.

My own computer on the other hand..to make it playable the NPC’s looked like fucking 2001 Dues Ex lol..

Thought this was worth a a laugh:

https://i.imgur.com/TbGdHL0.jpg

SkinnyPupp
01-13-2021, 04:23 PM
https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1349462362764537862

TLDW: "Our QA team failed to find the bugs so we thought it was good enough to release"

ilovebacon
01-13-2021, 04:42 PM
since the announcement, Sony hasn't refunded me...

mikemhg
01-14-2021, 11:39 AM
Next gen console patch won't be coming until Q3/Q4 of 2021 :lol

Man that sucks, what a way to kill the game. This game was literally the reason for me to watch to buy a PS5 so early, guess I can now wait :)