[jigsaw]

Recently, my math mark has been dropping REALLY fast. With the first 3 math tests, my mark was at 86%...the previous 3 we just did, my marks were 70%,71% and 71% and my mark fell to 81%....Im doing Pre-Calc 12 in BC. Do you guys have any suggestions as to how I should study and how long etc.??

Any advice is apreciated. Thank You!
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[mr_chin]

high school or adult ed?

[jigsaw]

high school or adult ed?

Highschool....im not sure whether its that I didnt do the homework for the last 3 chapters or Im just not smart enough...
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[yray]

What were the chapters about?

[BrRsn]

lol yo fuk class skip that shit n go get high n pick up bitches n take em to whitespot
bitches love that shit yo
show up to class drunk n shit lolol gangsta cuz

[m3thods]

Highschool....im not sure whether its that I didnt do the homework for the last 3 chapters or Im just not smart enough...
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Believe me, not that high-school is not important, but really- don't sweat the small stuff.

To answer your question- just keep doing problems. If you're looking in the back of the book for the answer before you're done all of your work, you're doing it wrong. If you are done all of your homework and getting every single question right while doing the correct work, then ask for more homework! With mathematics (especially calc), that's the only real way to learn and improve.

It seems that a lot of high-schoolers (my sister just graduated, so there's my one source) are so uptight about getting wrong answers. If you ask me, there's no better way to learn something than to get it wrong, work through the problem, figure out why you got it wrong, and never make the mistake again. That's what homework is for.

[nma]

Highschool....im not sure whether its that I didnt do the homework for the last 3 chapters or Im just not smart enough...
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:suspicious::suspicious:

[BrRsn]

OP you can hire me to write exams for you

[jigsaw]

What were the chapters about?

Ch.1- Transformations of graphs.streches translations etc. i got 82%

Ch.2- Radical functions...I got 88%

Ch.3- Polynomial functions and graphs..I got 82%

Chapter 9- rational functions...I got 70%

Chapter 4- Trig..working with exact values and the unit circle etc. 71%

Chapter 5- Sinusoidal functions etc. 71% (our teacher included ch.4 in this test ad well for some reason..)

Now were on ch.6...trig identites etc.
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[Energy]

Masterroshi? :suspicious:

[jigsaw]

Masterroshi? :suspicious:
No, I saw his constant posts though...
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[Spectre_Cdn]

SOH CAH TOA

How long to practice? As long as it takes until you get it.

[SpeedStars]

OP, to answer your question...sadly, the latter chapters of pre calculus 12 will be hell. Later on, bitchez will be sweatin and your focus on math will deteriorate. Sorry it's the truth. Now you may ask...SpeedStars, you've been to high school, how do you study? Well..very easy. First things first, you must purchase a Toyota AE86, DONT ask any questions because questions are for losers(and you're not a loser right!). Second, bring your pre calc text, calculator and most importantly, your cup of milk( you should know why, milk is brain food). Lastly, head up to Mount Seymour where it is quiet and start studying while going down hill. REMEMBER, DONT SPILL THE MILK! ( you need it, remember! Brain food!) The adrenaline when you're going downhill will pressure you into solving math questions super fast, so fast that everything around you slows down. Eventually, you will hit a time paradox known as...the Fujiwara Zone and your average at the end of the year will increase to 95%(just good enough for Harvard, but barely)

[fs604]

Chapter 5- Sinusoidal functions etc. 71% (our teacher included ch.4 in this test ad well for some reason..)

Now were on ch.6...trig identites etc.
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well you gotta be able to evaluate ur functions as well, they go hand in hand.

for trig identities, all you have to do is memorize the key trig identities and apply ur simplifying skills you've learned since the start of ur math career.

most of them will be straight forward but watch out for the really tricky ones on tests that you probably wont be able figure out even with unlimited time.

doing all the assigned homework is the difference between getting 8/8 on a question and 0/8 and being sad afterwards. do the harder textbook questions (usually the last 10 or so questions at the end of chapter) even if they are not assigned if you really want to succeed. this only takes a couple more hours of work but u get so much satisfaction in return (unless u still do poorly on the test)

[Noran]

Get a tutor. I had one for Calc 12 and currently have one for Math 157.

[Marshall Placid]

When I took Cal, there were some stuff I didn't understand, and that made me get B+ marks...

I got some help from a few tutoring classes on Cal, and it increased it to high 80s low 90s.

There were a few things that needed to be explained to me, and when I had the one-on-one help, it improved my score.

Ask your Cal teacher for some help for 10 to 15 minutes, if he/she isn't busy.

I'm sure they will acquiesce.

Or, if not, get a tutor to go through stuff you don't understand.

In Chronological order:
1- study (through homework, practice, whatever)
2- circle the stuff you don't understand or make a list of stuff you don't understand.
3a- Ask teacher for a one-on-one session
OR
3b- Ask tutor
4- Do better in tests by at least a grade point higher.
5- Rinse and repeat.

"Back at One" hehehe Brian Mcknight.

Good luck!

PS: If you are going into the Sciences or even... *gasp* Business, you'll need high Calculus marks, but I'm not sure if your "pre-cal" is Calculus AP or (I forgot the name) or an easier version of Calculus... The Universities have a much higher weighting/preference on the Calculus AP scores, so study hard and improve your average before your second and third term ends. For example, Queen's Business program gives a hard look at Calculus scores to weed out the incoming students, and you need a 90% or higher average.

[theevilslave]

You really shouldn't be having this much trouble. If your idea is to get into University and I assume into a faculty that will require Math, you'll have a really tough time with Calc and what not. So my advice is to get on your shit. Do ALL practise problems. Go ask your teacher for help after class. Tutors aren't the only option as it will cost you a lot of money. You have to self teach and self learn. Be motivated, it's only November there's plenty of time to bring your mark up by March.

[GGnoRE]

Highschool....im not sure whether its that I didnt do the homework for the last 3 chapters or Im just not smart enough...
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First, why are you expecting a good score on Math tests when you didn't do the homework? Unless you're a math genius, which apparently you're not...

Math is like learning any other motor skills. Repetition is key. You need to practice the "standard" problems to the point where you don't even have to think about how to solve them.

Once you're brain starts to understand the basic concepts inside out, you need to think of harder variations of those problems (usual the word problems) which are not so straight-forward anymore. This is what separates an A student from the B's.

how I should study and how long etc.??

Any advice is apreciated. Thank You!
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If you want to earn an A, you need to study as long as it takes to become a master at it. For some, this is 30 minutes, for others it may be 2 hours daily. It depends from student to student and their motivation to do well in the course.

If you ever decide to move on to post-secondary, you will quickly realize that the duration of study doesn't really mean much in the end.

-current MSc Math student with +5 years math tutoring experience

[jigsaw]

When I took Cal, there were some stuff I didn't understand, and that made me get B+ marks...

I got some help from a few tutoring classes on Cal, and it increased it to high 80s low 90s.

There were a few things that needed to be explained to me, and when I had the one-on-one help, it improved my score.

Ask your Cal teacher for some help for 10 to 15 minutes, if he/she isn't busy.

I'm sure they will acquiesce.

Or, if not, get a tutor to go through stuff you don't understand.

In Chronological order:
1- study (through homework, practice, whatever)
2- circle the stuff you don't understand or make a list of stuff you don't understand.
3a- Ask teacher for a one-on-one session
OR
3b- Ask tutor
4- Do better in tests by at least a grade point higher.
5- Rinse and repeat.

"Back at One" hehehe Brian Mcknight.

Good luck!

PS: If you are going into the Sciences or even... *gasp* Business, you'll need high Calculus marks, but I'm not sure if your "pre-cal" is Calculus AP or (I forgot the name) or an easier version of Calculus... The Universities have a much higher weighting/preference on the Calculus AP scores, so study hard and improve your average before your second and third term ends. For example, Queen's Business program gives a hard look at Calculus scores to weed out the incoming students, and you need a 90% or higher average.

I think the problem may be that I did literally no homework for those chapters because I didnt even try to understand it. For the last two tests it felt so easy and that I understood everything...but that wasnt the case.

I wanna go into business or economics and Ill need pre-calclus 12 for university admission. Its different from calculus.
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[Energy]

I think the problem may be that I did literally no homework for those chapters because I didnt even try to understand it. For the last two tests it felt so easy and that I understood everything...but that wasnt the case.

I wanna go into business or economics and Ill need pre-calclus 12 for university admission. Its different from calculus.
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sigh deja vu.

[jigsaw]

First, why are you expecting a good score on Math tests when you didn't do the homework? Unless you're a math genius, which apparently you're not...

Math is like learning any other motor skills. Repetition is key. You need to practice the "standard" problems to the point where you don't even have to think about how to solve them.

Once you're brain starts to understand the basic concepts inside out, you need to think of harder variations of those problems (usual the word problems) which are not so straight-forward anymore. This is what separates an A student from the B's.



If you want to earn an A, you need to study as long as it takes to become a master at it. For some, this is 30 minutes, for others it may be 2 hours daily. It depends from student to student and their motivation to do well in the course.

If you ever decide to move on to post-secondary, you will quickly realize that the duration of study doesn't really mean much in the end.

-current MSc Math student with +5 years math tutoring experience

The reason I didnt do the homework is that the questions felt so easy and it felt like I understood everything...
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[GGnoRE]

The reason I didnt do the homework is that the questions felt so easy and it felt like I understood everything...
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I can't say that I haven't made this mistake in the past.

Reading the solution from an example problem from the textbook and saying "ahh... this seems pretty easy" is much different than attempting to reproduce the solution accurately on the exam. If you don't do your due diligence you cannot expect good results.

[Purely]

LOL... so it begins.... again

[jigsaw]

I can't say that I haven't made this mistake in the past.

Reading the solution from an example problem from the textbook and saying "ahh... this seems pretty easy" is much different than attempting to reproduce the solution accurately on the exam. If you don't do your due diligence you cannot expect good results.

Ive made that mistake 3 times....never again...
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[Energy]

LOL... so it begins.... again

He's persistent. And smart because its not so obvious to most.

[jigsaw]

He's persistent. And smart because its not so obvious to most.

If you still think im masterroshi, then you are wrong.
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[Energy]

Sure, I'm fine with being wrong, masterroshi.

Chances are you will not be able to resist creating multiple threads about high school and university and your "aspirations" to whatever career you want (was it accounting... please don't make it too close to that this time) plus you won't listen to advice given to you anyway.

But please, prove me wrong. I'll be happy and the rest of RS will be happy too :)

[Purely]

When people (myself included) waste our time giving you LEGIT advice, you seem to ignore it and trolololololo away.

What's the point of making these threads? 12,000 posts on Malvibes or w.e?

[xXSupa]

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And that's when I stopped giving a fuck.

[Xu.Vi]

Academic Advising - Simon Fraser University (http://www.sfu.ca/students/academicadvising.html)

http://www.sfu.ca/students/admission-requirements/admission-averages.html

[jigsaw]

When people (myself included) waste our time giving you LEGIT advice, you seem to ignore it and trolololololo away.

What's the point of making these threads? 12,000 posts on Malvibes or w.e?


i am not masteroshi! I just came here to get some advice for math...but I guess that was a bad idea...
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[Energy]

i am not masteroshi! I just came here to get some advice for math...but I guess that was a bad idea...
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You got your advice. Now lets see what happens next :)

[Nlkko]

The weirdo gets a hardon from posting threads about highschool grades, beedie and big 4. I wonder if he wacks off to these threads.
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[Ulic Qel-Droma]

im jerking off right now.

[mr_chin]

trig identities is easy.

i usually study in this pattern, do 1 question, check the back of the book for that one. if i am wrong, i find out why, and i write a note beside the question what should i have done.

i sticky note my notes and so i can get to it faster than skimming through them every time.

once you memorize all the trig identities, it's a walk in the park. search profrobbob on youtube. i use his videos for stuff i don't understand.

The reason I didnt do the homework is that the questions felt so easy and it felt like I understood everything...
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this is what i say to myself everytime i do my homework. and when i get to questions i don't understand or solve them incorrectly, i resort to the back of the book, and it refreshes my memory. then i'll say, "oh i knew that".

do your homework, every single question. do it from the last to the first, because the last usually are the hardest.

find out why you didn't get it right, it's important to understand why. identify the question to what kind of problem it is and what formula you need to use to solve it.

i don't know if you've done it yet, but you'll soon have to prove (sin²ө)(sin²ө) + (cos²ө) / cot²ө) and that is when you really need to understand trig identities.

[GrapeDrink]

join date nov 2013, posts from mobile ... lol

[123654123]

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[airclimber]

i am not masteroshi! I just came here to get some advice for math...but I guess that was a bad idea...
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I like how your username is identical to this guy on mallvibes with the same grades as masterroshi :suspicious:

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[jigsaw]

I like how your username is identical to this guy on mallvibes with the same grades as masterroshi :suspicious:

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Ok fine, you caught me...I just wanted some study tips for math....im seriiusly using all the advice ive gotten so far...I can really go without the hatred...
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[v_tec]

Can someone just ban this guy :facepalm:

[Energy]

If you still think im masterroshi, then you are wrong.
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i am not masteroshi! I just came here to get some advice for math...but I guess that was a bad idea...
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Ok fine, you caught me...I just wanted some study tips for math....im seriiusly using all the advice ive gotten so far...I can really go without the hatred...
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:fullofwin:

Lol you're so funny.

[jigsaw]

Cmon guys give me another chance...this is my last thread...I promise!
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[xXSupa]

No, you won't get in.

[jigsaw]

No, you won't get in.
Im just looking for some help on how to study for math...im done with creating multiple threads. This is my LAST question.
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[Energy]

Im just looking for some help on how to study for math...im done with creating multiple threads. This is my LAST question.
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:gtfo:

We've heard that line before. Or do you mean its your last question until you create another account?

[jigsaw]

:gtfo:

We've heard that line before. Or do you mean its your last question until you create another account?

Last question FOREVER!!!!!! I WILL NOT MAKE ANOTHER THREAD OR ACCOUNT!!!! I AM TRULY SORRY!!!
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[J.C]

^ made me LOL

[theevilslave]

Stop feeding the troll.

/thread

[double0seven]

:moderatorban:

[Atsui]

haha

[Slifer]

:rofl:

[trix4kids]

If u want to go into business or even economics you gotta take uni calc which can get tricky. Just a warning that if u find pre calc 12 difficult youre going to die in uni calc. Honestly they dumbed down nath in hs a lot. I did pre calc last year and it was a joke. My advice is to try to grasp the understanding of the bigger picture. Often times people get tunneled vision into one concept and they cant piece all the sections of the chapter together
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Edit: didnt read the whole thread lol.

[jigsaw]

If u want to go into business or even economics you gotta take uni calc which can get tricky. Just a warning that if u find pre calc 12 difficult youre going to die in uni calc. Honestly they dumbed down nath in hs a lot. I did pre calc last year and it was a joke. My advice is to try to grasp the understanding of the bigger picture. Often times people get tunneled vision into one concept and they cant piece all the sections of the chapter together
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Edit: didnt read the whole thread lol.

Its not that I find it tricky, I didnt do any homework but it felt like I understood everything, but I clearly didnt't. Ive gotten a lot of advice, including yours, from this forum and im using the advice. Also, im taking Calculus 12 next semester which covers most of the university math Im gonna have to do.
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[Energy]

Its not that I find it tricky, I didnt do any homework but it felt like I understood everything, but I clearly didnt't. Ive gotten a lot of advice from this forum and im using the advice. Also, im taking Calculus 12 next semester which covers most of the university math Im gonna have to do.
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Its past your bedtime :fullofwin: