[murd0c]

So long story short I have been dealing with a lot of bullying at work for years (just went on 8yrs there) and last Friday I basically had enough of it and snapped and I'm on stress leave for a month.

The question I have is should I do something about this bullying cause I'm sick and tired of it and in all honestly dont want to go back.

I have email evidence of a coworker that Photoshopped my face on a picture of a guy getting raped and sent it around the company and to customers. My dad is a customer and he came into work last Friday with another customer and my supervisor asked him why my mom never swallowed and some other shit.

I'm sick and tired and just don't know what to do especially since I'm on this stress leave which I'm only receiving 55% of my pay and I'm of course worried they might want to can me now once I go back...

Any help is much appreciated :okay:

[spideyv2]

lets go for a beer brah

[SumAznGuy]

Are you in a union job?
Is there any reason why you want to stay at this job since it is such a toxic work place.

Starting Nov 1, Work safe BC also handles work place harrassment. Since you have proof, maybe taking that proof to them might help.
Not sure if going to the human rights tribunal will help, but that is another possible step.

What about the HR department at your work place. Since your supervisor was so rude to your dad, maybe that is another avenue.

[subordinate]

Definitely contact worksafe BC.

Since you're dad is a customer and got the email too, that's pretty telling.

[murd0c]

Nope the job isn't union at all, a part of me doesn't want to stay but I do like what I do and I like my customers as well. How does the shit with work safe BC work? I'm just at a total loss for words right now cause this shit fucken sucks. I work for a big company and I honestly don't trust my HR department and the worse is I don't want to sounds like a rat.
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[Purely]

Find a new job. Don't need to take crap from people like this (especially 8 years). Any particular reason why they're only picking on you? Is it a race thing or ?

Edit. Since your supervisor is part of this, can you contact the manager (one above supervisor?)

[Energy]

Can't help you here OP but I'm sorry you've had to go through this.

[murd0c]

Dunno why they do it they have always done it, I went to my boss around a month ago but he did nothing. He's a real fucken prick that doesn't really do his job in the first place never being there.

Just seems like such a waste putting so much time in some place and they treat me this way and I'm out. It's not a race thing I'm white but they do big me about my sexuality on a regular basis. I'm straight but they all say I'm gay and just don't know it yet... The bullying is pretty bad and I'm kinda shocked I have put up with it for this long.
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[SumAznGuy]

If your employer is a pretty big company, then they should take work place bullying/harassment seriously.
Not sure why you don't trust your HR department.
Is there any particular reason why you don't trust your HR department?

Just saw your latest post, and if that was the case, then definately I would say it is time to find another job. Maybe you can find a job in the same industry but with another company.

[murd0c]

If your employer is a pretty big company, then they should take work place bullying/harassment seriously.
Not sure why you don't trust your HR department.
Is there any particular reason why you don't trust your HR department?

They are back in ONT and I haven't really talked to them before. I have also heard stories in the past when someone made something a big deal they were "let go" soon after.

[SumAznGuy]

Having worked in a union job, I know what you mean. It's always the nail that sticks out that gets hammered.
From the sounds of it, you are at the end and cannot ignore it anymore. If you are set on leaving, then maybe complaining to HR might not be a bad idea, but be prepared to be singled out and possibly black flagged in the industry. While company's shouldn't do it, in reality it does happen.
Going to Work Safe might help, but in the end, even if you win, would you still want to work for this company with the same people that have been harassing you all these years?
If it was me, I would take the high road and quit, and possibly, you can get a good recommendation if you choose to apply at another company in the same industry.

[nma]

Honestly dude just don't take it. Tell people to seriously fuck off and make sure they understand it's NOT okay. This happens all the time, and the longer it happens the easier it is to keep picking on you. You can either stand up for your self, or leave. I think the way you're approaching it, your co-workers aren't taking you seriously. If they still don't stop, I would probably go to work safe, or contact someone in your company where some shits will be given. If not, go to the media, tell EVERYONE how awful this company is, and that there is no support for those who are struggling and getting bullied.

[waddy41]

Use this time while you are on leave and just find another job.......... I can't believe you put up with it for 8 years...

[punkwax]

Document everything, search past emails, build your case. Take your time, do it right. If you don't trust local HR, go above them to the head of HR.

If its a big company as you suggest, they take this very seriously. I don't know what outcome there will be but the dickheads you deal with will learn a valuable lesson. If they don't, then your company is shit and you may consider lawyering up to ensure they don't victimize people in future.

Hope this helps.

[Dasani]

Document everything, search past emails, build your case. Take your time, do it right. If you don't trust local HR, go above them to the head of HR.


Also, read on the company policies and procedures to see how they address these types of situations before escalating it to WorkSafeBC. It will show that you have followed all the proper procedures to no avail.

Just remember that it's the employers responsibility to provide a safe and healthy working environment.

Good luck!

[KingCrimson]

Nope the job isn't union at all, a part of me doesn't want to stay but I do like what I do and I like my customers as well. How does the shit with work safe BC work? I'm just at a total loss for words right now cause this shit fucken sucks. I work for a big company and I honestly don't trust my HR department and the worse is I don't want to sounds like a rat.
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Don’t give a FUCK about what anobody thinks of you, period. We live in a dog eat dog world, so if they’re giving you shit, why show sympathy. It’s YOUR right, and you own it.
And don’t forget to respect yourself, first and foremost. Have some self principle, that no one can push you around. Either stand up for yourself, or leave the company.

[Spoon]

IMO, the photo and what your co-workers did with it is grounds for firing? I mean, c'mon why would you share something like that with customers. It's unprofessional and makes it oh so easy to track.

[bcrdukes]

I'm genuinely curious as to why bmwx1 failed the OP.

murdoc - Hope you can sort this out. Sorry to hear about this.

[SumAznGuy]

I haven't read the links yet, but hope this helps.
WorkSafeBC Safety at Work Bullying and Harassment Information - Fri Nov 15, 2013 (http://www2.worksafebc.com/Topics/BullyingAndHarassment/home.asp)

[Geoc]

Wow, it's like they are begging you to sue them. If you can get that other customer who heard the lewd comment made to your dad to testify, you are pretty much set for a nice payout.

I looked at OP's avatar at first and wonder who in their right mind would bully someone like that

[FerrariEnzo]

Work place harassment is serious... do you also have video/voice recording.. if not, I would suggest doing some.... but a cheap voice recorder.. I know smartphones have this.. but unless you have a flash memory, it can take up quite a bit if your recording through most of the work day.. haha

If you have told your supervisor or even higher up and they do nothing, you can go after the company also..


Worksafe BC Bullying and Harassment (http://www2.worksafebc.com/Topics/BullyingAndHarassment/Home.asp)

[melloman]

1. Get some friends who look like this:
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/5T6kx6esGwQ/0.jpg

2. Ask them to make a "visit" to your workplace and have a "talk" with this bully.

Seriously though. If you've gone to management, and they did fuck all. You have 3 options:

-Talk to the bully head on. Be loud, be confrontational, and get your point across that this shit is going to stop. Or else you'll go to Plan B.
-Plan B: Get your paperwork together, and send a informative letter to your companies HR department. Let them know you will be filing a grievance against the company.
-Quit.

[DragonChi]

If you decide to leave, make sure you have a job lined up first.

It seems you got nothing to lose if you're manager is useless. Will he even give you a reference?

This is your chance to fuck with them. Start working out. Be intimidating. Follow the photoshopper to the washroom, rattle the door and say, "You're right, turns out today I'm gay. You're going to get raped, bitch."

TP his office or cubicle.

Hit on his wife at the Christmas party.

Though, these things could escalate. Make sure you can leave, or win.

This is what I might do. I've never been in your situation before.

“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.”
― Eleanor Roosevelt

[ProBoostin]

Since they think you are gay..

Get an attractive female friend, since you deal with customers, get her to be all into you. Take down her number and make it audible for everyone to hear ask ask her out for a date and tell to agree. Then shove it down the coworkers throat like no tomorrow.

But really, workplace harassment should be taken very seriously. I just read a bit of the worksafe BC policy and it's in your duty and responsibility to do what you can to minimize it.

Worker's section of policy:

3. The Act
Section 116
(1) Every worker must
(a) take reasonable care to protect the worker's health and safety and the
health and safety of other persons who may be affected by the worker's acts
or omissions at work….
POLICY
Definition
“bullying and
harassment”
(a) includes any inappropriate conduct or comment by a
person towards a worker that the person knew or
reasonably ought to have known would cause that
worker to be humiliated or intimidated, but
(b) excludes any reasonable action taken by an employer or
supervisor relating to the management and direction of
workers or the place of employment.
A worker’s obligation to take reasonable care to protect the health and safety of
themselves or others includes:
(a) not engaging in bullying and harassment of other workers, supervisors, the
employer or persons acting on behalf of the employer;
(b) reporting if bullying and harassment is observed or experienced in the
workplace; and
(c) applying and complying with the employer’s policies and procedures on
bullying and harassment.

[murd0c]

Wow, it's like they are begging you to sue them. If you can get that other customer who heard the lewd comment made to your dad to testify, you are pretty much set for a nice payout.

I looked at OP's avatar at first and wonder who in their right mind would bully someone like that

The customer that was with my dad already said he heard the full thing and is willing to speak up for me as he was pissed off as well.


The thing thats fucked up about this is the person who has been saying and doing all of this stuff is female...

[murd0c]

I'm genuinely curious as to why bmwx1 failed the OP.

murdoc - Hope you can sort this out. Sorry to hear about this.

I was wondering the same thing about the fail... I don't bitch about them but that one really pisses me off since I'm pouring my heart out in a way and was man enough not to use a mod to make a confidential post...

[quasi]

The customer that was with my dad already said he heard the full thing and is willing to speak up for me as he was pissed off as well.


The thing thats fucked up about this is the person who has been saying and doing all of this stuff is female...

Is she 10, she like you and this her way of getting you to notice her? Seriously, I remember that behavior in elementary school.

[murd0c]

Nope 35 married with two kids
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[SoNaRWaVe]

usually with these type of things, there has been a past with the person bullying you. and its her way of compensating for her struggles in the past and now feels superior.

if i were you, build up a case. put all your documents together, a timeline. straight up and go talk to her and tell her you have a case built up and tell her to stop. because you 2 are co-workers, try to work it out at your level first. if not, you will escalate, and it won't be fun for either of you 2. if that happens again, document it and go to your supervisor. if no actions are taken, document it again, and keep going higher up. the last resort should be HR.

by the time, and if it does, it hits HR and they do nothing, tell them that you will be filing papers with worksafe bc. make sure that you have followed all appropriate steps though as outlined with worksafe bc. might not be a bad idea to call and talk to someone there at the moment.

file papers with HR saying that you have filed papers with workesafe bc. not sure how they handle things, but might not be a bad idea to lawyer up.

it is a lengthy process and as stated by most, will you still be willing to work there after all this happens? some people just need to fight fire with fire

or you can go the easy way, find a job now. and on the day you quit, photoshop that bitch sucking some horse dick and plastor it all over the office. just make sure you keep smiling. just orally abuse the shit out of her and make up some rumors or some shit. can't stand people like that.

i for one commend you on standing up for this shit for 8 years before snapping, that takes patience and balls man. i like the idea of you strolling in with some hot chick and just prove all them assholes wrong. revenge is bitter sweet and served cold. ten fold at that.

edit: do momma jokes work on her? if she says you're gay again, tell her thats not what i showed your mom last night.

[SkinnyPupp]

Get the customer to complain, and maybe contact other customers to do the same

[punkwax]

Don't fake anything ie the hot chick idea :facepalm:

Take this seriously and they are forced to take you seriously. If you've ever goofed around and played along, so to speak, you lose credibility. They can just say they were joking and you were part of it. Sure, the line can be crossed eventually and there may be consequences (ahem Incognito) but if you've always shown that you don't approve of the behaviour, its bullying and cannot be viewed in any other manner.

[J89]

what kind of fucked up company do you work for man.. 35 year old woman with 2 kids dogging on an employee lol. Why don't you stick it back to them? I assume it's not your personality. One thing I learned in my 24 years of living is it's a take take world it's not a give and take. If they do this to you and you do anything back it's just going to get worst.

Goodluck man

[!Yaminashi]

Damn, never had any experience like this in the workplace. I'm surprised you've worked with this company for 8 years.

I'm surprised your supervisor is the one talking shit like that. Have you ever dont ANYTHING about it? Or have you just taken it for 8 years?

[mac25]

quit or

bring your phone and let the bullies know that you are recording the conversation.

if it doesn't stop record it secretly and sue the holy shit out of them!

[finbar]

Only hearing one side of it, there's all kinds of truth out there.

With that said, it sounds like you can prove a hostile work environment. A case for constructive dismissal may also be a possibility.


Full disclosure with your representative,warts and all, or else.

What Nodnarb said.



This is not an easy thing you're going through, be cool brother.

[Matlock]

I've been lurking this thread for a while and don't know what to think.
This just reminds me of being bullied back in grade school...
Just reading about your situation makes me so angry.

You sure are a patient person.

I don't exactly know how it works in these office situations, but being patient and going through HR and documenting everything sounds like a good plan.

murd0c, I wish you the best of luck. You'll get through this and just remember you have friends on RS that care about you. :)

[mb_]

I don't have any useful advice for you murd0c but best wishes in dealing with this and hope you come out on the winning end.
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[SkinnyPupp]

Now I feel bad about that photoshop I made of your pic.. you used it as your avatar.. Now I obviously don't know you and I wasn't trying to be mean, besides making fun of a bad mustache... But I wonder if you just have a personality that lets you get picked on?

[SupraTTturbo2jz]

Nope the job isn't union at all, a part of me doesn't want to stay but I do like what I do and I like my customers as well. How does the shit with work safe BC work? I'm just at a total loss for words right now cause this shit fucken sucks. I work for a big company and I honestly don't trust my HR department and the worse is I don't want to sounds like a rat.
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not being a rat if someone else is making your work and life a living hell. Tell HR, if they fuck around, tell worksafe and file lawsuit. keep records of all harassment and use record app on ur phone or something. You can also get back at them secretly if you want:fullofwin: Find their address and number and post on craigslist in the "men seeking men" section, photoshop their face in gay porno pics. They gonna have to cancel their number :devil:. I will make their life living hell if it happened to me.

oops nvm, just read it was a chick. Post her number in escort section with her face on fake body, fuck that bitch up

[murd0c]

Now I feel bad about that photoshop I made of your pic.. you used it as your avatar.. Now I obviously don't know you and I wasn't trying to be mean, besides making fun of a bad mustache... But I wonder if you just have a personality that lets you get picked on?

Honestly I think thats what it is because I'm such a easy going friendly person that doesn't get mad. Shit like that doesn't bother me cause it was a funny joke but thats all it was. This shit was repetitive over and over and you disrespect in front of my father like that is completely out of line...


Totally Fast and Furious moment right there lol

[will068]

That's ground for termination right there. And I work for a multinational 40 billion dollar company. If you claim your company is a big company, they will do the right thing immediately.

Sending your photoshopped pics to customers about rape. Fucked up I tell you. What's fucked up is if you report this to HR and they don't do shit.

[Ferra]

Honestly I think thats what it is because I'm such a easy going friendly person that doesn't get mad. Shit like that doesn't bother me cause it was a funny joke but thats all it was. This shit was repetitive over and over and you disrespect in front of my father like that is completely out of line...


Totally Fast and Furious moment right there lol
Bullies prey on the weak...
you just have to man up and fight back...(not physically but verbal insult can go both way)

if she calls you gay, call her fat, dirty whores, bitches every time you see her..
don't make any attempt to avoid her and dont' stay silent when she insults you
even if you are not good at shit talking, dont' make it easy for her...bullies back down when it gets difficult and uneasy for them


or....record what she said, post it on her facebook and youtube, send it to her husband and family, send it to your company headquarter...etc

[ProBoostin]

The supervisor being a female didn't even cross my mind. Given the situation I just assumed it was guy. I know in my line of work, although it's construction, dealing with a female is tricky cause anything can be used against you if said wrong. Call the female a bitch or something along those lines and it's instantly the mans fault. But if it's a male male conflict, call the guy a fucking asshole and knock him out if you want and nothing will be happen expect maybe a hatred or problem solved.

Don't use vulgar insults as she could claim workplace battery charges or something shit ridiculous like that. Keep your insults/comebacks clean and witty. Those ones always seem to be more effective anyway and can also be more humiliating in the end.

Just be stern and bold and don't back down. Find some dirt on her and try to expose her. She's a supervisor so she must have been there for some time. Has to be something or someone that she's done.

[ruthless]

Maybe she just wants the D ?

But on a serious note, you sir have great patience. I would have snapped after the first week.

Good luck and don't back down from this bitch.

Like you said, enough is enough.

[gdoh]

man I give you credit for keeping cool all this time, I would have lost my shit and confronted them face to face.

best of luck with whatever the outcome is

[meme405]

:seriously:

Where the hell do you work bro?

I have seen people PS'ing people onto pictures and stuff as a joke, but never to that degree. I mean thats not really joking anymore that's serious, and same if it ever goes past the people in your office. I mean its all fun and games in the office, but customers should never see that type of stuff.

[rsx]

I would NOT resort to taunting the fat twat back. She'll end up making a case of sexual harassment.

Just build your case and go through the proper company procedures with HR. Meanwhile, consult with the worksafe too.

Hope all goes well. Chin up, don't let those cunts get to you.

[Mr.HappySilp]

So long story short I have been dealing with a lot of bullying at work for years (just went on 8yrs there) and last Friday I basically had enough of it and snapped and I'm on stress leave for a month.

The question I have is should I do something about this bullying cause I'm sick and tired of it and in all honestly dont want to go back.

I have email evidence of a coworker that Photoshopped my face on a picture of a guy getting raped and sent it around the company and to customers. My dad is a customer and he came into work last Friday with another customer and my supervisor asked him why my mom never swallowed and some other shit.

I'm sick and tired and just don't know what to do especially since I'm on this stress leave which I'm only receiving 55% of my pay and I'm of course worried they might want to can me now once I go back...

Any help is much appreciated :okay:

Since your co-worker is sending this stuff out to customers I say give HR a chat and hire a lawyer. I am sure if the CEO of your company finds out whoever send the e-mail out will get fire on the spot. It is giving the company a pretty bad image. Also this is way beyond work hrassment so getting a lawyer is a good idea.

[mr_chin]

Nothing anybody say or do should make you quit your job especially after 8 years.

Bring it to the higher up people and let them know. Make a big deal out of this. If you have hard evidence then you can probably sue the people involved and get something back. You probably don't want this job back since going back would be so awkward. I'm sure there are services in bc that deal with these kinda stuff.
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[Tapioca]

As others have said, it's best to document everything and to be firm with her. Take the high road and don't resort to petty insults, photoshop schemes, etc. If she refuses to stop, then document it and take your case higher up. If there's no response, then file a claim with Worksafe. Just follow all of the steps and be prepared to never work in your industry again. You'll bounce back and become a stronger person as a result. Your dignity is worth more than your job.

Good luck.

[B!tch]

Murdoc, sorry to hear that you have been dealing with this. I can't imagine how hard it is for you to post on a forum that you have been bullied at work and by a female too. You should be very proud of yourself for taking it as long as you did and for speaking about it.

Firstly, ignore the trolls talk about getting the bitch back. You and I both know that is only going to work against you as you are the big bad man and the poor little innocent mother of two is the victim. Plus it violates Policy Item D3-116-1

Since you have already gone on stress leave here are a few questions.
1. What is in your benefit plan for therapist? Do you have an EAP? (Employee Assistance Plan)?
2. Document, Document, Document. Spend the next few days documenting everything that has happened. Take the emotion out of it and just state times, date, what was said, and most importantly who heard or saw that happened. This includes name of customers, co-workers, supervisors.
3. What are your policies? Based on what I read above you work for a large org based out East. There must be some policies in place. What are the procedures for reporting incidents? and if your supervisor didn't respond?

If you can provide more details on the above, I can provide you with a lot more information.

I am working crazy hours at the office, preping for end of year and suprise surprise reviewing our policies, so I don't log on to Revscene much. If you want help PM me.

Just a note about the Workplace Bullying and Harrassment Act. The majority of took effect Nov 1 however pieces have already been in place for years. It isn't winning the lottery. My feelings got hurt or someone looked at me the wrong way or they gave Bob the better duties and mine I hate. This is serious issue. I would take making a claim very seriously as until you have been through a thorough WSBC investigation, perhaps with your employer denying the claim, you have no idea how difficult it can be.

There are also other avenues such as Employment Standard and Human Rights.

Take care Murdoc. Be proud you have taken the first step. I hope you have family and friends supporting you.

[Neoxphuse]

If they are sending emails, I would suggest you make a copy in your personal inbox as you never know if they start deleting the emails.

As everyone says, document everything that happens. In fact, start documenting it in front of her with the time and all witnesses.

All the best. As people have mentioned, there should be policies in place for harrassment. I work for a big regional corporation and I can guarantee if bullying was reported to HR or the media, that person would be let go immediately. Thankfully, that culture does not exist around here.

[fishCak3s]

Since you're on stress leave then I assume you took the HR route instead of safety

PM me if you any help, I do health and safety for a living.

[snails]

alright.. i havnt said much but i believe its been covert, im curious on how much of this advice you have/will follow


hope OP delivers with a bitch getting canned!

[radioman]

Keep us updated Murdoc.

I hope you get what you think is fair and then some.
No one should have to be humiliated while they try to make a living.

Unless you're a Circus Clown.

[murd0c]

Since you're on stress leave then I assume you took the HR route instead of safety

PM me if you any help, I do health and safety for a living.

I just went to the docs and took a month off that I'm only getting 55% of my pay which fucken sucks big time especially this time of year..

Still trying to decide what to do and tempted to call Work Safe BC and see what they have to say on the matter.

[XplicitLuder]

i'd be past "tempted" and would just call in dude..you're a grown man why are you putting up with this crap ? best of luck

[omnomnomnivore]

I don't work in a big nor unionized company but bullying isn't tolerated at my work place. Canada is a multicultural country. So neither big nor small companies should ignore that fact. You having to take a stress leave is considered to be a health and safety issue, I believe it's best to bring all evidence forward to Work Safe BC. Sorry to hear about your situation.

[murd0c]

I did contact Work Safe BC today and filed a claim, the person I spoke with said I did the right thing by contacting them and someone will be in touch with me next week. This is going to get interesting and will keep everyone updated whats going on.

Thank you everyone for the advice, it's been very hard for me dealing with this, kinda like a dream in a way.

[6793026]

get a case number, PRINT OUT all your emails and evidence, get a lawyer even. There's always a few sides of the story but from what I hear, bullying is bullying so....

good job for standing up and i do wish you all the best.

[murd0c]

get a case number, PRINT OUT all your emails and evidence, get a lawyer even. There's always a few sides of the story but from what I hear, bullying is bullying so....

good job for standing up and i do wish you all the best.

Yup I have a case number and the only email I have is the one that was passed around the company and to customers thats photo shopped with my head on a pic of a person getting raped

[bobbinka]

forward your emails home or print them out, incase they let you go and wipe your account

[murd0c]

So I called Work Safe BC last week but haven't spoken to my case worker yet since she has been on vacation...

So I went back to work today and and of course sat down with the GM, Operations Manager and Supervisor about the whole thing....

So they wanted to know what was stressing me out and for how long (1- 1 1/2yrs now I told them) and they of course went over everything about being in such a relaxed environment at my work. They then said to me about me joking around and I bring it on my self a lot of the time. I told them I joke around about it because thats how I actually know how to deal with the jokes, I'm not lashing back out at another person I'm making fun of myself which I have always done as a kid.

Then of course I said about the Worksafe BC claim and my boss was like do you really want to do that? if you do all of the stuff you have done/said over the years will come out as well and everyone here will be embarrassed. Your dad will be embarrassed because of the response he gave my supervisor when she made the swallow comment to him (his exact response was "her mom didn't teach her to swallow") the customer he was with was prob on the ground laughing he thought it was so funny. As well I slapped her ass while dancing at a xmas party in front of her husband a couple years ago and that will come out as well. He said think very closely before you say something about the claim because because like I said everything will come out and all the parties will be embarrassed with this situation. He of course told me I'm starting with a clean slate now and everything that has happened will be forgot about and company policys are in place and I should of spoken to someone before doing this.

Isn't this stuff he's saying to me considered bullying at well trying to threaten me what will be said and happen??? He even said that I called a Fijian co-worker Nigger before which I would never fricken say that but he's joked around that I said that to him...

I'm just kind of at a loss for works right now and not sure what to say or what I should really do because I'm so embarrassed and ashamed already with what I did...

I've been ranting and hopefully what I said has even made sense right now.. I betcha he hasn't even thought about the email with the picture that has been passed around, could I be shooting myself in the head if I even follow through with Worksafe BC with shit I have said in the past that has bothered no one except give them laughs?

I'm posting this pic that was passed around to get your guys full input here which I really appreciate, please don't joke about it since honestly its nothing to joke about and value everyone.s support and opinion.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2448/80pm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/80pm.jpg/)

[MasonJar]

Oh jesus man, this whole thing is horrendous!

YES, everything they said to you to day was bullying and intimidation! Not only that, but the conversation was literally 3:1.

Whatever you do, don't give up. You are doing the right thing, man. Hold your head high and don't let them get to you. When this goes to court or arbitration, just let everything out...good and bad. Let the chips fall where they may. We have all been guilty of saying less than appropriate things at work, but what happen to you is beyond that.

That picture is so past the line of acceptable, it is disgusting.

I am sorry you are dealing with this, man. This makes my skin crawl.

[BoostedBB6]

Do the right thing, call WorksafeBC.
I have to commend you tho, I think I would have been fired long ago after taking taking this guy to the bar for a few drinks....

Unbelievable that the company lets this go on.....sounds like its a good idea to move.

[BoostedBB6]

Sounds to me like you need to leave that place......and get a lawyer because these people are vial people. The GM doing that to you.....yeah, I would have let him have it right then and there.

[Hondaracer]

your workplace sounds like a fucking joke man..

The company i work for now is only about 30 people and we grew from essentially nothing, we have no HR dept, all our policies were essentially adopted from previous companies the owner worked for, and we employee a whole bunch of people who are under 28 and it would be like completely ABSURD to have anything close to this happen within our company

take it all up with WCB, fuck what they say

[murd0c]

It's so hard to believe because we are a 300+ million dollar company with over 400 employe's with a branch in every province with two in BC and Alberta.

[Recon604]

tat picture is out of line. dont let them get to you, get a good lawyer, you must go thru with this

[Jas29]

Any updates?

[murd0c]

I thought I would bump this...

So I decided not to go through with filing any claims and I have stuck it out for the past 6 months until I received my yearly bonus. I'm proud to say I gave my two weeks today to go to my direct competition. I of course gave 2 1/2 weeks notice and let walked me out the door right away but I'm happy to say I still left on good terms with everyone which was still important since I'm in such a small industry.

Now its time to hit them where it hurts and take those customer orders which I have already done!!!

I wanted thank everyone for their kind words and support when I was dealing with this BS cause you guys truly helped when I was going through this difficult time.

Reece

[SkinnyPupp]

Stay strong Murdoc, nice going

[Inaii]

Good luck at your new job! I'm sure it'll be a major improvement over your last one :)

[DGN23]

Just read this whole thread. That is some messed up shit man. Glad to hear you got out. Good luck at the new place. FYI they have to pay you the time that you would have been working after you gave notice. They can kick you out but you are still owed that 2 weeks of pay.

[murd0c]

oh I'm fully aware of that and they still owe me for the 9 vacation days I have left as well

[hypediss]

can't believe these kind of things happen especially in an environment full of adults

hope all is well with you, tie those loose ends and never look back at such a wretched place

[MG1]

Wow, just read the entire thread. murd0c, you da man. It worked out in the end, but those people need to be held accountable. They are going to do it again and again to another person.

[trancehead]

it is definitely not an easy thing to go through what u did, commending you for that

i am curious though, did the environment change at all (for better or worse) after you had that 3:1 meeting?

[d1gbick]

congrats on the job but back to your last post about taking customers orders... you are clear of any non compete agreements right? Did you possibly sign anything about this in the past 8 years that could come back and bite you

[murd0c]

it is definitely not an easy thing to go through what u did, commending you for that

i am curious though, did the environment change at all (for better or worse) after you had that 3:1 meeting?

It did get a bit awkward for a bit but over time it got better. They were playing it by the book and my boss was still acting like a complete power tripping dick which I couldn't deal with anymore.

congrats on the job but back to your last post about taking customers orders... you are clear of any non compete agreements right? Did you possibly sign anything about this in the past 8 years that could come back and bite you

I'm still in the same industry and my new job has the exact same customers so thankfully I don't have to work about it coming back and biting me in the ass.

[Ronin]

Good for you, dude. You're definitely a lot more chill than me. I would've scorched the earth on these people if that shit happened to me.

And it's a woman? Well, call her the C-word and that will be the end of that.

[B!tch]

CONGRATS on the new job.

I know it is a forum and not a court so pardon me for living up to my user name.


You said:
"I of course gave 2 1/2 weeks notice and let walked me out the door right away"

I am hoping what you meant to say was I of course gave 2.5 weeks notice and they walked me out the door right away. If that is what happened, they owe you two weeks.

If however you gave to weeks notice and they let you walk out the door right away. It is going to be your word against theirs that you asked to not work the notice period, that they were ok with it and "let" you leave right away. If this is the case.....I hope someone, who will back you, was in the room when you gave notice.

One word, which is a typo on a forum, but in the real world, that one word makes a HUGE difference.

Congrats again!

[murd0c]

Damn typo, yes they walked me out the door right away so of course they owe me for that time and I know they will pay me for it so I'm not worried at all thankfully

[Jonydakiller]

I'm glad you came through at the end murd0c, but don't be surprised if you see something similar @ your new job, you just have to learn to find a way to tackle it when you see it instead of letting it slide because things will only going for worse.

I can almost guarantee this so called "bullying" or "joking around" exist in every office, and there is nothing you can do about it. I worked at an office before, and i been on both ends of the stick, getting laughed at or laughing at people due to their race, physical appearance etc.

You somehow have to manage to stay on the "top" of all things, if somebody start circulating an email or flyer about somebody at the office, join the conversation, jump onto the bandwagon and say something harsh but that can also falls under "joking around", at least people working around you will realize you can also attack instead of sitting there getting laugh at.

I have to admit, I enjoy making fun of people due to their race, physical appearance etc sometimes, and thats how i stay on the top. Like currently we have a coworker from Africa, we were sitting with bunch of people at starbucks and he chose a seat with the shade, so i just said, you don't need shade, he asked me why, and i simply told him because you are black and you won't get a sun burn! Some people can actually take this to HR for discrimination at work place and I will be in trouble, but if you have that some sort of mutual understanding with everyone at @ workplace, ppl say things about you they will just forget about it the next day, and why this crap exists, is because work is just too BORING and ppl is always trying to find something to entertain themselves, so next time join the bangwagon and start making fun of people! thats my advice! (within an acceptable limit )

[dared3vil0]

^ You're a tool.

[Ronin]

There's a difference between joking around and bullying. At my workplace, it's a total boys club where we totally talk shit to each other. It's often gross and sometimes pretty racist (since we're a very multicultural place...there's basically one or two of every racial group present) but it's all said in the spirit of...well, how guys interact in friendship. If someone wasn't cool with it, that would be fine and we wouldn't joke around with them like that.

What murdoc described is harassment, not simple jackassery shared amongst friends.

[murd0c]

I couldn't of said it better myself Ronin and no it won't happen at my new job since theres only 6 people including myself and not 60 like my other job. 27 total people in the whole company which is so nice.

[quasi]

It's always tough leaving somewhere even if it's not the best environment and starting over. As you know it's going to be a bit stressful for the first little bit as you prove to your bosses and co-workers that you can do the job but three months from now it will be business as usual and back into autopilot.

Best of luck at your new job.

[meme405]

I'm glad you came through at the end murd0c, but don't be surprised if you see something similar @ your new job, you just have to learn to find a way to tackle it when you see it instead of letting it slide because things will only going for worse.

I can almost guarantee this so called "bullying" or "joking around" exist in every office, and there is nothing you can do about it. I worked at an office before, and i been on both ends of the stick, getting laughed at or laughing at people due to their race, physical appearance etc.

You somehow have to manage to stay on the "top" of all things, if somebody start circulating an email or flyer about somebody at the office, join the conversation, jump onto the bandwagon and say something harsh but that can also falls under "joking around", at least people working around you will realize you can also attack instead of sitting there getting laugh at.

I have to admit, I enjoy making fun of people due to their race, physical appearance etc sometimes, and thats how i stay on the top. Like currently we have a coworker from Africa, we were sitting with bunch of people at starbucks and he chose a seat with the shade, so i just said, you don't need shade, he asked me why, and i simply told him because you are black and you won't get a sun burn! Some people can actually take this to HR for discrimination at work place and I will be in trouble, but if you have that some sort of mutual understanding with everyone at @ workplace, ppl say things about you they will just forget about it the next day, and why this crap exists, is because work is just too BORING and ppl is always trying to find something to entertain themselves, so next time join the bangwagon and start making fun of people! thats my advice! (within an acceptable limit )

I hope this is a joke, cause if not you sound like a messed up person.

Work is boring unless people make fun of each other? LOLWUT.

Practical jokes are one thing, for example I have a little program which forces someones computer CD-Tray to open and close on a random interval. This makes everyone laugh, and as long as you don't drive someone up the wall with it, they always laugh after you tell them as well.

But just busting on someone for their Race, culture, or physical appearance because you are bored is really fucked up man.

EDIT: Like seriously, just this sentence:

I have to admit, I enjoy making fun of people due to their race, physical appearance etc sometimes, and thats how i stay on the top.

Is like definition bullying.

[cruz-in]

Iwe were sitting with bunch of people at starbucks and he chose a seat with the shade, so i just said, you don't need shade, he asked me why, and i simply told him because you are black and you won't get a sun burn! )

if you would have done that to me, i would have poured my coffee down your shirt. the only burning your gonna make fun of is the "black coffee" cooking your nipples.

fucken racist.

[Ronin]

That joke is acceptable if the black guy doesn't mind and usually my black friends wouldn't. Just like I told my Persian friend I was going to go watch the history of his people when I went to see the 300 sequel.

"Do you still worship Xerxes, the god king?"

[Jonydakiller]

You guys need to chill, we are assuming that you know the people that you are working with, not some random people you met on the first day. Like op, he knew the people working around him as well, my coworkers make fun of me being chinese as well.

I dont make fun of people because im bored at work, im saying in general why people do it at work it is because due to their lack of interests at their jobs. Hope yhis clears up a bit

Some of you need to get out of your moms basement and go see the world, making dumb assumptions without knowing what a working environment is like nowadays

[meme405]

You guys need to chill, we are assuming that you know the people that you are working with, not some random people you met on the first day. Like op, he knew the people working around him as well, my coworkers make fun of me being chinese as well.

I dont make fun of people because im bored at work, im saying in general why people do it at work it is because due to their lack of interests at their jobs. Hope yhis clears up a bit

Some of you need to get out of your moms basement and go see the world, making dumb assumptions without knowing what a working environment is like nowadays

No...just no.

You stated you like to exert dominance over others by making fun of their appearance and race. If you can't see how wrong that is, regardless of your relationship with that individual, just go kill yourself.

EDIT: And for the record, I understand where you are coming from. I have mentioned this on the forum before, I was called "car-bomb" within my company for A LONG time, and still get it once in awhile. I have no problem with the name, in fact I find it hilarious.

The reason I find what you are saying wrong is because the way you explain it is that this is how you elevate yourself above others, which is no longer humorous, its just degrading at that point.

So don't tell me shit about the workplace environment, and all that crap.

[Jonydakiller]

^ and u never make fun of people due to their race or physical appearance? Okkkk...

I mentioned those as examples, it is not the only 2 things we make fun of each other at work place, but it is quite common that these 2 come up quite often.

I was simply inputting my opinion on what op should do when he starts in a new environment. You cant expect people to just kinda go away if you just sit there and do nothing when they are making fun of you, because it will only get worse, turning joking around into bullying.

Please dont compare flipping burgers at macD or shaking bubble teas as a real working environment. I been to big corporate office like op did so i know exactly whats going on because it happened at my office as well, photochopping craps etc.

All in all, my advice is you are the best protection you can seek out there when it comes to bullying, how you approach is up to u, im offering how i approach it in a corporate world. Going HR is only when you are ready to quit your job

edit - i dont laugh at ppl to "elevate" myself over others, but sort of trying to mix in in a sense? Because when you and majority of people are living under the same roof, they will also protect you when things go out of hands. If you try to go complete clean hands in a corporate world, good luck, you will be on your own and gets bullying without a doubt, it is just how it is nowadays unfortunately

[meme405]

Please dont compare flipping burgers at macD or shaking bubble teas as a real working environment. I been to big corporate office like op did so i know exactly whats going on because it happened at my office as well, photochopping craps etc.

You do seriously have a problem with self elevation.

Even if I did work at mcdonalds or shaking bubble teas, does that mean I am any less entitled to not get bullied at my place of work?

I understand your approach, but that's definitely NOT how it has to be. If I don't feel like joking around about something, and trading shots like that with someone, I have EVERY right to open my mouth and say STOP.

OP has that same right, in fact everyone does. You come off as the type of person that would keep pushing the person after that until they explode.

[SkinnyPupp]

Jony if you are like this in real life and aren't just talking shit on the internet.. what a real sack of shit you must be

[murd0c]

Jony how old are you?

[Ronin]

You guys need to chill, we are assuming that you know the people that you are working with, not some random people you met on the first day. Like op, he knew the people working around him as well, my coworkers make fun of me being chinese as well.

I dont make fun of people because im bored at work, im saying in general why people do it at work it is because due to their lack of interests at their jobs. Hope yhis clears up a bit

Some of you need to get out of your moms basement and go see the world, making dumb assumptions without knowing what a working environment is like nowadays

I hope this clears it up a bit. You're a kid. We're adults.

If you're fucking around on a real job and someone complains about it, the right thing to do is stop. If they understand it's a joke and they don't mind/joke back, then it's all good but obviously someone took it too far at murdoc's previous job.

It doesn't matter if you think he's being sensitive. If he is, then that's his right. He shouldn't have to deal with assholes at work that don't understand no means no. Assholes should, instead, stop being assholes.

Yes, it's a heck of a lot of fun when you can shit on people at work in jest but it's more important that people at work can peacefully co-exist with each other. If someone tells you to stop with the dickery, maybe it's time to stop with the dickery instead of calling them a pussy.

[SoulCrusher]

Jonydakiller you're what's wrong with society.

[SoNaRWaVe]

^ and u never make fun of people due to their race or physical appearance? Okkkk...

I mentioned those as examples, it is not the only 2 things we make fun of each other at work place, but it is quite common that these 2 come up quite often.

I was simply inputting my opinion on what op should do when he starts in a new environment. You cant expect people to just kinda go away if you just sit there and do nothing when they are making fun of you, because it will only get worse, turning joking around into bullying.

Please dont compare flipping burgers at macD or shaking bubble teas as a real working environment. I been to big corporate office like op did so i know exactly whats going on because it happened at my office as well, photochopping craps etc.

All in all, my advice is you are the best protection you can seek out there when it comes to bullying, how you approach is up to u, im offering how i approach it in a corporate world. Going HR is only when you are ready to quit your job

edit - i dont laugh at ppl to "elevate" myself over others, but sort of trying to mix in in a sense? Because when you and majority of people are living under the same roof, they will also protect you when things go out of hands. If you try to go complete clean hands in a corporate world, good luck, you will be on your own and gets bullying without a doubt, it is just how it is nowadays unfortunately

i don't know where you work, but it sounds like you need to get out of your work environment.

you CAN NOT generalize what happens in your work environment, is the same in ANY work environment.

whatever corporate/office environment you came from, it definitely sounds fucked up.

if everyone is on board with the same type of jokes then sure, its all fun and games to enjoy your break. if you seriously lack interest of your job, and resort to such jokes just to pass the time, you are definitely also in need of a new job.

and no matter what happens, when one person says stop, it definitely means stop. and murd0c has stepped up and did what was right and it still continued. every company is suppose to provide a safe and harassment free workplace.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

shoulda posted her pic with some info on 4chan with your story, and the rest of it will be taken care of by the trolls.

oh well, next time.

[twitchyzero]

I have to admit, I enjoy making fun of people due to their race, physical appearance etc sometimes, and thats how i stay on the top. Like currently we have a coworker from Africa, we were sitting with bunch of people at starbucks and he chose a seat with the shade, so i just said, you don't need shade, he asked me why, and i simply told him because you are black and you won't get a sun burn! Some people can actually take this to HR for discrimination at work place and I will be in trouble, but if you have that some sort of mutual understanding with everyone at @ workplace, ppl say things about you they will just forget about it the next day, and why this crap exists, is because work is just too BORING and ppl is always trying to find something to entertain themselves, so next time join the bangwagon and start making fun of people! thats my advice! (within an acceptable limit )

DONNIE IS DAT U

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[underscore]

I just read through all this and that is one messed up workplace, I'm glad to hear you left that shithole company but personally I would've dragged them through the dirt first, they got off too easy IMO.