[mustang766]

Im.34 working as data entry clerk and looking to get into trades . Previously I.have a business management diploma but never found wirk in industry. This was in 2006 graduated . I want go back school.since my current job is dead end

I heard people say if you do trades you got work up . Like dig ditch to put pipe in , lot physical and unpleasant places since your new guy.

Anyone in the industry and pros and cons.

I just look into it since plumbing trade or construction trade can make lot money .

Which trade is least physical demand as im.not young.

baking program ok at vcc but i dont like waking up early like 6 am and i heard pay is low even after graduation

[bloodline129]

U just blasted my mind, did u hear that. Mind blasted.
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[sdubfid]

become a brain surgeon

[Energy]

Im.34 working as data entry clerk and looking to get into trades . Previously I.have a business management diploma but never found wirk in industry. This was in 2006 graduated . I want go back school.since my current job is dead end

I heard people say if you do trades you got work up . Like dig ditch to put pipe in , lot physical and unpleasant places since your new guy.

Anyone in the industry and pros and cons.

I just look into it since plumbing trade or construction trade can make lot money .

Which trade is least physical demand as im.not young.

baking program ok at vcc but i dont like waking up early like 6 am and i heard pay is low even after graduation

Is very not suprising you are 34 wit dead end job. business mgmt diploma in general useful. am very suprised at you and am very sad also disappoint in your failure. revscene just want you to be the best and suceed.

i think trades good idea for someone liek you. but i beleive may be plumbing or construction too difficult for someone like you.

make suggest baking like you orignally planned is may be good idea. very not physical demanding, wake up early is ok.

cream puffs delicious, you a cream puff, can be making cream puffs is perfect for you.

hoepful this helps, plz respond :)

[Matlock]

Least physically demanding? Maybe painting? Although full 5g pails look heavy. I dunno.

All trades are physically demanding. Dirtier, more physically demanding jobs can make more money with less experience.

For cleaner, less physically demanding jobs... if you want good pay you would probably need more experience (10 years+) and maybe even a brain.

[twitchyzero]

start a webcam sex site
you won't have to do unpleasant things as the new guy (subjective)...I also hear you don't have to wake up at 6am for that
how well you get paid will depend on your gag reflex
it is pretty physically demanding though...you should try shadowing first

[GLOW]

I heard people say if you do trades you got work up . Like dig ditch to put pipe in , lot physical and unpleasant places since your new guy.

Anyone in the industry and pros and cons.

I just look into it since plumbing trade or construction trade can make lot money .

Which trade is least physical demand as im.not young.

baking program ok at vcc but i dont like waking up early like 6 am and i heard pay is low even after graduation

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i think you should stay out of construction trades. saw your post and the first thing that came to mind is:

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[cdizzle_996]

Smrt

[SpeedStars]

Become a matchmaker :fullofwin:

[punkwax]

Become a politician.

[Hondaracer]

Finishing carpentry.
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[moldex]

Any trade is a good trade

[Mr.Stubbz]

become a pokemans trader :fullofwin:

[vafanculo]

Have you considered becoming an RS mod? Pay is good, and dont have to wake up 6 am
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[BrRsn]

Bakers' jobs aren't easy either
painting fucking sucks because you're always covered in paint
don't become the losers that put up the stucco, that's also a terrible job


maybe go to college, get C's in every class, then become a barista
pay is shit, but wifi is free

[TOS'd]

Be a tutor, you can meet girls that way too.

[DavidNguyen]

Become a meat cutter
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[Presto]

Joe, stop chasing the money and the tail. You do it like a headless chicken. Get some focus, man. Get a job that you can enjoy. Work hard at it, and the money will come.

[racerman88]

look into the programs at BCIT and see what appeals to you.
Once you have your ticket in a trade that will guarantee you a minimum starting wage. BUT like any job you will have to work your way up the seniority ladder.
If you know anyone that works as a longshoreman, that is one way to go. It took my buddy about four years before he got into the longshoreman with a contact on the inside.

[melloman]

You sound like good thinker.
You move to Chinar, become good Engrish tutor. Make lots of moneys there.

Such Engrish. Great words. Much teach. No labour.

[E-40six]

lol, OP wants to go into trades and doesn't like waking up at 6am.
good luck with that

[Krazer]

Go do trades discovery at BCIT. See what you like. Personally I did plumbing in new construction. Its hard ass work.

[Puck Luck]

if i could do it again, i would consider a trade in construction industry, like plumbing or electrical. Seems like there's always work available.
Good luck in your search

[mustang766]

Go do trades discovery at BCIT. See what you like. Personally I did plumbing in new construction. Its hard ass work.

how is it hard ass work? any examples of what a apprentice plumber who just finish foundation bcit plumbing be doing?
do you recommende it and pros and cons of industry

thanks

[Hondaracer]

Every trade until you're a foreman is relatively labour intensive.
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[Energy]

how is it hard ass work? any examples of what a apprentice plumber who just finish foundation bcit plumbing be doing?
do you recommende it and pros and cons of industry

thanks

i just actualy finish such program. foundation bcit plumbing. i recommened for you very hard ass work.

for exampel, work is definite hard ass work. but i find hard ass quite enjoyble. if you lkie hard ass, i recommende it very many pros no cons.

pls response thanks

[GLOW]

Every trade until you're a foreman is relatively labour intensive.
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at that point i would say it is more mentally stressful.

[mustang766]

how about chef then ?

[threezero]

Lol you want to get into trades but don't want to wake up at 6am. What world do you live in, can come live too

[Matlock]

Be a chef if you want to work hard and long hours. All of the chefs that I know (friends and family) work about 6+ days a week.

I think it can be hard finding a job for younger chefs without knowing the right people. You would have to find a job every now and then, because restaurants can close down or change owners.

[melloman]

You want easy job?

You become homeless guy who stands at intersection and asks for money with sign.

For reference sign usually says: "No money. Homeless. Anything helps."

No labour intensive, long hours, easy.

[solo_ryder]

If your looking into trades but you dont want to do anything labour intensive then you may have to look elsewhere.

If you are doing a mundane job now and the thought of hard labour is worrying you its because you have to get used to it. Hard work and finishing a job is very satisfying and you will get used to it.

There are alot of trades you can get into:

Electrical
Plumbing
Gas Fitting
Sheet Metal

Thats just to name a few. I am a 3rd year Refrigeration and Heating tech and its great. Although I didnt go to school at BCIT, I hear they offer a decent program. If you are to choose this trade though I do recommend going to JARTS in langley, they offer the best schooling for the refrigeration trade.

Pros:

Wide variety of work environments (commercial, residential, industrial)
Wide variety of work in general (gas, heating, A/C, refrigeration (coolers, freezers at supermarkets etc)
Good pay
The trade is in high demand
Very technical, always learning new things every day
Good base pay with raises that come often
Usually get your own van for work
Respect - People respect you when you have a trade, your working in a field that most people know little to nothing about and that makes you valuable.

Cons:
Work at some shitty places
Dealing with unpleasent people at times
Long hours (refrigeration guys work long hours)
Steep learning curve
On call for emergency situations

I am in residential and I enjoy it. The majority of guys go into commercial rooftop work or refrigeration work working with walk in coolers, fountain pop machines, ice machines etc. Have a look at the BCIT website and see what you like and just go for it. But remember, there is gonna be labour involved in whatever trade you choose so your just gonna have to man up and do it. Sheetmetal might be an option for you as most sheetmetal guys can work in a large shop and create parts needed to HVAC guys. Something to consider

[mustang766]

If your looking into trades but you dont want to do anything labour intensive then you may have to look elsewhere.

If you are doing a mundane job now and the thought of hard labour is worrying you its because you have to get used to it. Hard work and finishing a job is very satisfying and you will get used to it.

There are alot of trades you can get into:

Electrical
Plumbing
Gas Fitting
Sheet Metal

Thats just to name a few. I am a 3rd year Refrigeration and Heating tech and its great. Although I didnt go to school at BCIT, I hear they offer a decent program. If you are to choose this trade though I do recommend going to JARTS in langley, they offer the best schooling for the refrigeration trade.

Pros:

Wide variety of work environments (commercial, residential, industrial)
Wide variety of work in general (gas, heating, A/C, refrigeration (coolers, freezers at supermarkets etc)
Good pay
The trade is in high demand
Very technical, always learning new things every day
Good base pay with raises that come often
Usually get your own van for work
Respect - People respect you when you have a trade, your working in a field that most people know little to nothing about and that makes you valuable.

Cons:
Work at some shitty places
Dealing with unpleasent people at times
Long hours (refrigeration guys work long hours)
Steep learning curve
On call for emergency situations

I am in residential and I enjoy it. The majority of guys go into commercial rooftop work or refrigeration work working with walk in coolers, fountain pop machines, ice machines etc. Have a look at the BCIT website and see what you like and just go for it. But remember, there is gonna be labour involved in whatever trade you choose so your just gonna have to man up and do it. Sheetmetal might be an option for you as most sheetmetal guys can work in a large shop and create parts needed to HVAC guys. Something to consider

which trade is least technical ? what do you mean by unpleasant ppl? what do they do

[LC21]

Try working in retail. Good incentives.
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[Energy]

which trade is least technical ? what do you mean by unpleasant ppl? what do they do

urge you reconisder baking cream puffs. not very technical. ppl un unpleasant. get paid min wage is very good.

pls response.

[solo_ryder]

urge you reconisder baking cream puffs. not very technical. ppl un unpleasant. get paid min wage is very good.

pls response.

Lol if you want a trade that isnt that technical then you may be out of luck. Every trade has its theories and refrigeration is probably the most complex.

Consider maybe auto mechanic?

[mustang766]

whcih one least techinal and easier to learn

[Energy]

whcih one least techinal and easier to learn

omg bakin least techinal an easier to learn why u no listen?

pls response thanks

[GLOW]

lay tile...got any problem being on your knees?

[meme405]

Consider maybe auto mechanic?

Are you nuts?

Does this guy sound like someone you want working on your car? I certainly rather him not touch anyones car.

[Krazer]

Every trade until you're a foreman is relatively labour intensive.
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Depends which company you work for. My foreman was on the job working away with the rest of the crew every day. He never sat back while everyone else worked. (Although I bet he wish he could) And this guy was well into his 50's as well. Even in bigger companies the foreman was still working with an apprentice laying pipe. It all depends on the company.

On a side note. Trades is not for this guy.. You don't to work hard, you dont want a technical job, you dont want to wake up early. Look into becoming a crane operator. You sit on your ass all day and play with joy sticks and pedals. Sound about right your ally, then again its probably stressful as fuck.

[Iceman-19]

lol. Claims to be a data entry clerk, and he can't even fucking type. I call bullshens.

[Iceman-19]

Depends which company you work for. My foreman was on the job working away with the rest of the crew every day. He never sat back while everyone else worked. (Although I bet he wish he could) And this guy was well into his 50's as well. Even in bigger companies the foreman was still working with an apprentice laying pipe. It all depends on the company.

On a side note. Trades is not for this guy.. You don't to work hard, you dont want a technical job, you dont want to wake up early. Look into becoming a crane operator. You sit on your ass all day and play with joy sticks and pedals. Sound about right your ally, then again its probably stressful as fuck.

And you still have to wake up early.

[finbar]

Im.34 working as data entry clerk and looking to get into trades . Previously I.have a business management diploma but never found wirk in industry. This was in 2006 graduated . I want go back school.since my current job is dead end

I heard people say if you do trades you got work up . Like dig ditch to put pipe in , lot physical and unpleasant places since your new guy.

Anyone in the industry and pros and cons.

I just look into it since plumbing trade or construction trade can make lot money .

Which trade is least physical demand as im.not young.

baking program ok at vcc but i dont like waking up early like 6 am and i heard pay is low even after graduation

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:P

[Puck Luck]

which trade is least technical ? what do you mean by unpleasant ppl? what do they do

Not sure why but this almost seems insulting to anyone licensed in a trade.
If you're seriously asking these questions, then trades aren't for you. You've already exceeded your potential as a data entry clerk. I would've pegged you as a walmart shelf stocker

[Hondaracer]

Depends which company you work for. My foreman was on the job working away with the rest of the crew every day. He never sat back while everyone else worked. (Although I bet he wish he could) And this guy was well into his 50's as well. Even in bigger companies the foreman was still working with an apprentice laying pipe. It all depends on the company.

On a side note. Trades is not for this guy.. You don't to work hard, you dont want a technical job, you dont want to wake up early. Look into becoming a crane operator. You sit on your ass all day and play with joy sticks and pedals. Sound about right your ally, then again its probably stressful as fuck.

well yea, on most residential and even industrial applications trade foremen will always be doing hands on work. I kind of worded it poorly, was referring morseo to superintendent positions etc and management roles

[twitchyzero]

On a side note. Trades is not for this guy.. You don't to work hard, you dont want a technical job, you dont want to wake up early. Look into becoming a crane operator. You sit on your ass all day and play with joy sticks and pedals. Sound about right your ally, then again its probably stressful as fuck.

joe45 the crane operator
i can already see the headline on the front page :ohgodwhy:

[Matlock]

-More technical: take your time, use your brain, and do it the first time. Technical jobs usually deal with more expensive materials.
-Less technical: work harder/faster for speed. Speed is all you need.


I rather be technical

[JSALES]

Go back to school and improve your English

[solo_ryder]

Go back to school and improve your English

:werd:

[kev1n9121]

i suggest becoming a drywaller. i bet you'd fit right in

[trip]

is this real life?

[SuavePapi]

go to bcit for piping foundation, go to fort mac, work for 5 years, make equivalent to a doctor. become introvert. gg

[skyline32]

Anyone got any advice for a person half of his age?
Thinking of becoming an electrician, or maybe doing refrigeration work.
Pros and cons of an electrician? If there are any people here in that line of work?
Other suggestions? Thanks!

[Devastator]

Heavy duty mechanic, electrician, plumber (residential or commercial)

Heavy duty mech are in high demand and make $40+ an hour if you get into a good dealer after getting your ticket. Or go to fort Mac and earn a nice 150,000 bucks a year on avg. not including working OT. Not saying its easy up there but it's a sacrifice only you can decide if you can make or not.

The other 2 trades are also good because you can do side jobs on top of your reg job, which both trades have pretty good wages for.

[skyline32]

Thanks for your input!
Heavy duty mechanic sounds interesting, im assuming the only money you'll be spending on is beer aswell :D

Electrician on the other hand, does anyone know approximately how much they start at? and how long they would have to go schooling for?

[Iceman-19]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Only money you will be spending is on beer? Sure, after the $25,000 plus you have spent on tools. And if you go up north you pretty much need your own service truck, so if you want nice and new with a warrenty, tack another $160k on at least to that.

[Iceman-19]

Heavy duty mechanic, electrician, plumber (residential or commercial)

Heavy duty mech are in high demand and make $40+ an hour if you get into a good dealer after getting your ticket. Or go to fort Mac and earn a nice 150,000 bucks a year on avg. not including working OT. Not saying its easy up there but it's a sacrifice only you can decide if you can make or not.

The other 2 trades are also good because you can do side jobs on top of your reg job, which both trades have pretty good wages for.

You are out to lunch.

[Devastator]

let me clarify, if you work as a heavy duty mech in fort mac you need to work for a big company, Imperial oil, Suncor, Finning, Cummins, all of which provide camps so no vehicle needed. not as a self employed with a service truck. wages for the mentioned company are $50-59+ an hour as a certified journeymen heavy duty mech.

I know 6 guys that are journeymen heavy duty mech up in fort mac that work for the mentioned companies and none of which had to spend close to 25000 in tools. most companies only ask you to bring a small tool box to carry with wrenches and ratchet set and they provide the rest either already on the company service truck or in the shop.

This all sounds great but remember you need to serve an apprenticeship and be good at what you do. You will be rewarded handsomely with good wage cause when shit breaks in fort mac its mega sized and your expected to get it back up and running cause in the oil sands time is money.

So far these 6 guys have been travelling back from fort mac to van pretty often and saving lots of money. They like it up there and their companies treat them great.

[Devastator]

Electricians start anywhere between 12-16 as an apprentice and 25-38 for journeymen

[quasi]

Depends which company you work for. My foreman was on the job working away with the rest of the crew every day. He never sat back while everyone else worked. (Although I bet he wish he could) And this guy was well into his 50's as well. Even in bigger companies the foreman was still working with an apprentice laying pipe. It all depends on the company.

On a side note. Trades is not for this guy.. You don't to work hard, you dont want a technical job, you dont want to wake up early. Look into becoming a crane operator. You sit on your ass all day and play with joy sticks and pedals. Sound about right your ally, then again its probably stressful as fuck.

Depends on the size of the company and the size of the jobs. We have foreman that never wear tools. We also have some that are very hands on and tend to do our smaller jobs, it really depends.

If one wants to avoid the physical work they need to get off the tools and into estimating, project managing or construction manager but you still have to put in your time and learn the trade from the inside out. Just my guy feeling from the OP's posts I'm going to go out on a limb and say those opportunities will probably never be there. My job isn't physically hard but it can be very stressful at times, when I make a mistake it can cost a lot of money. The guy in the office next to me discovered a $80,000 mathematical error the other day on one of his jobs, the job itself isn't all that big and our company will have to eat it, all I can say is I'm glad it wasn't me.

Those are the cons, the pros are I can work from home, I choose my work load and I get taken to the pub a lot for lunch by my boss.....the small pleasures in life lol.