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best way to destroy a hard-disk drive
tiger_handheld
01-04-2014, 09:59 PM
I need to destroy a hard disk drive and ensure the contents are never recoverable. What is the best way to do this?
I was thinking of dropping it in a body of water around the GVRD. Would the water damage suffice?
I also need to get rid of some paper, what is the best way to rid of these aside from calling in Shred-it?
TekDragon
01-04-2014, 10:16 PM
Open it and rub a magnet all over it.
As for the paper, if it's a few sheets use a large ziploc bag and water. It'll turn it into pulp.
Gerbs
01-04-2014, 10:18 PM
whats in there.
Bonka
01-04-2014, 10:18 PM
Kill it with fire :die:
SkinnyPupp
01-04-2014, 10:19 PM
drill holes in it
Traum
01-04-2014, 10:59 PM
I need to destroy a hard disk drive and ensure the contents are never recoverable. What is the best way to do this?
I was thinking of dropping it in a body of water around the GVRD. Would the water damage suffice?
I also need to get rid of some paper, what is the best way to rid of these aside from calling in Shred-it?
Assuming that your drive is a magnetic spindle type of hard drive, secure erase / data sanitization/destruction programs is what you are looking for.
SDelete -- SDelete (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-ca/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx)
Eraser -- Eraser | Internet Security and Privacy (http://eraser.heidi.ie/)
will serve your needs and then some. If I am not mistaken, the US DoD specifications only require anywhere between 3 to 7 passes of such secure erase procedures before the disk contents are considered unrecoverable.
Note that these secure erase software will probably not work with SSD. If your drive is an SSD, I don't know what to recommend.
zilley
01-04-2014, 11:02 PM
very curious about whats in it.
sounds like some serious evidence.
note to self: tiger_handheld might be a hitmen.
ScizzMoney
01-04-2014, 11:22 PM
Is this picture related to anything on that hard drive?
http://i.imgur.com/UuENGng.png
v_tec
01-04-2014, 11:46 PM
drill holes in it
+1
This is what large corporations do. Grab a power drill and have fun with it.
Then if you insist - throw it in the ocean / etc.
!MiKrofT
01-04-2014, 11:51 PM
As per current DoD requirements the drive must be physically destroyed. Take a sledgehammer to it. We have a company come out and shred our old drives.
Gucci Mane
01-04-2014, 11:53 PM
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I would write zeros to the drive using the utility provided by the HD Manufacturer or use Acronis True Image if you want it written more than once. Once you start using the drive again and overwriting the data, it will unrecoverable. Writing zeros will take hours depending on the size of the drive.
As for the paper there is nothing better than burning it. A shredder doesn't even come close.
!MiKrofT
01-05-2014, 02:07 AM
If you read the op he was gonna chuck it in water so I doubt he's gonna be reusing it.
Writing 0 alone isn't enough. 7 pass wipes include 0, 1, random, etc.
Xu.Vi
01-05-2014, 03:28 AM
Microwave it
supremematt85
01-05-2014, 04:00 AM
Thermite is your only option.
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FerrariEnzo
01-05-2014, 04:31 AM
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as for the paper.. take a shit and wipe your ass with it.. im sure no one would ever touch it :troll:
i would take a hammer to it lol
IMASA
01-05-2014, 08:08 AM
As for the paper there is nothing better than burning it. A shredder doesn't even come close.
Exactly, didn't you watch Argo? :D
tiger_handheld
01-05-2014, 09:02 AM
These are old drives with magnetic disks inside, so all I have to do is take my power drill to it with a half decent drill bit?
Taking a hammer isn't enough. The inside has to be destroyed, not bent.
As for the paper, I was thinking of burning it but is public burning allowed? I was thinking of taking it to the nearby park.
If I tell anyone what's inside, I would have to drill holes / burn them too... just kidding.. or am I ?
Most HD platters are made of glass, and will shatter like glass.
You can also burn paper undisturbed at the Chinese section of most cemeteries. They commonly have burners for the public.
Mountain View Cemetery - Chinese Burner Dedication - YouTube
!MiKrofT
01-05-2014, 11:20 AM
You could always grab a torx screwdriver to take apart the drive and then smash the platters inside. Just make sure u smash outside.
godwin
01-05-2014, 11:51 AM
Smashing things is inelegant, also you never know if people are crazy enough to pick up the pieces eg NSA. Since most of the time the same data is stored on multiple locations you can never be sure if random drilling etc would work either. I assume by the time you realise you need to destroy things, chances are someone would want the info.
You have to understand the magnetic element on the platter are sprayed on the platter. Any strong acid will melt it off. Once the magnetic coating is off, there is no way to recover, even if they get the platters, since the magnetic patterns are stored by location.
The absolute best and easy way: Go to home depot and get some strong acid from the chemical aisle, HCl, or H2SO4. Get a strong tub. Take out the platters of the harddrive, put pour the acid into the tub about 1" depth, then gently put the platter into the tub with tongs. After the bubbling has stopped, turn on the cold tap and gently pour the content into the sink to rinse. You will get some pretty artsy pieces to give to people afterwards. or hang them out in your yard to scare away birds.
Super paranoid, take out the controller board which store the sector info. Most of the time combustion of just paper is not high enough, you can bits of pieces which are just charred but not burnt.
If you burn paper add some powdered aluminum or magnesium to the mix.
Mr.HappySilp
01-05-2014, 12:08 PM
take a hammer and hammer it tillt he HDD is into tiny little pieces as for the paper why not just burn it?
These are old drives with magnetic disks inside, so all I have to do is take my power drill to it with a half decent drill bit?
Taking a hammer isn't enough. The inside has to be destroyed, not bent.
As for the paper, I was thinking of burning it but is public burning allowed? I was thinking of taking it to the nearby park.
If I tell anyone what's inside, I would have to drill holes / burn them too... just kidding.. or am I ?
im willing to have holes drilled in me for the team. whats in it? :troll:
lilaznviper
01-05-2014, 02:25 PM
write 0s and 1s to it using software like acronis. i usually do it twice then use a slug hammer to kill break the drive just for fun lol
Iceman_2K
01-05-2014, 02:38 PM
break the platters using a hammer
AzNightmare
01-05-2014, 03:29 PM
If you really want to destroy the information on paper, use fire.
If you want to destroy the info on HDD, literally break the HDD.
Pretty common sense...
tiger_handheld
01-05-2014, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the help guys.
Zedbra
01-05-2014, 06:37 PM
I have a personal shredder I use at home for sensitive documents. When I burn them afterwards, they go up in flames really well - nothing is left over within seconds.
godwin
01-05-2014, 08:12 PM
Writing 1&0 a few times over each sector is actually very energy intensive. Not to mention depending on how old is the drive, it might just get error'ed out before it actually able to finish the job. It is faster and cheaper to give a acid bath to the platters, and sell the aluminum for the casing for scrap. Scrap people like those casings because they are pure alloy, it is easier for them to process.
write 0s and 1s to it using software like acronis. i usually do it twice then use a slug hammer to kill break the drive just for fun lol
Psykopathik
01-05-2014, 08:15 PM
id use killdisk and format 7 times, then open it and smash it. paper? shred then burn. burning a big ream of paper takes surprisingly long. take it all camping like i do and have a nice bonfire.
knight604
01-05-2014, 08:19 PM
try a blender
DC5-S
01-06-2014, 12:56 AM
What a stupid thread
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freakshow
01-06-2014, 06:55 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_flGfuqCvrLA/S9GzgFpRWPI/AAAAAAAAAUU/An1YOE_4tkE/s1600/will-it-blend.jpg
jeedee
01-06-2014, 08:58 AM
What the hell do you guys have on your hard drives... :suspicious:
lilaznviper
01-06-2014, 03:00 PM
some businesses want their data secured and don't want anyone to have access to anything when the computer is recycled.
StylinRed
01-06-2014, 03:23 PM
Laser Printer Shredder
if you have an old laser printer you can convert it into a paper shredder too (google for diy)
Or you can buy a real laser shredder from Whitaker Bros.
http://www.whitakerbrothers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/100_2172.jpg
Turns the paper into powder
http://www.whitakerbrothers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/100_2165.jpg
http://www.whitakerbrothers.com/lasershredder#
or you can buy one of their NSA grade paper shredders
Much easier though
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