[RickyTan3]

Trying to shop for it and my heads going ti explode what's the best place?
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[maksimizer]

Could always just never get married.....

[Spidey]

Trying to shop for it and my heads going ti explode what's the best place?
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Surely you have family or friends that can direct you to a jeweller. Personally, I am not a big fan of the big name stores like Peoples, Ben Moss, etc.

[hopalong]

Yes stay away from the big names. I got my fiancés ring custom made and it's 1/3 the price of the big names, but same quality.

[zx7rrrr]

Buy a the rock wholesale and go on eBay and find the ring setting
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[duc_evo_sp]

Stop buying diamonds, worst investment on the face of the earth. Trust me.

Your should buy a rare gem and set it by a custom jeweler in Vancouver.

10 Facts About Diamonds You Should Know - Neatorama (http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/01/10-facts-about-diamonds-you-should-know/#!wiACr)

Ten Rarest Precious Stones | Jewels du Jour (http://www.jewelsdujour.com/2012/08/ten-rarest-precious-stones/)

Your Welcome.

[BBMme]

I like brirks for off the shelves or brinkhaus for custom
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[extracrunchie]

try whiteflash.com

you are not paying for the design, so its a lot cheaper and the quality is there.

[Spidey]

Stop buying diamonds, worst investment on the face of the earth. Trust me.

Your should buy a rare gem and set it by a custom jeweler in Vancouver.

10 Facts About Diamonds You Should Know - Neatorama (http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/01/10-facts-about-diamonds-you-should-know/#!wiACr)

Ten Rarest Precious Stones | Jewels du Jour (http://www.jewelsdujour.com/2012/08/ten-rarest-precious-stones/)

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As men, we could care less about whether diamonds are an "investment" with respect to monetary value.. It's not like we are getting it back... Diamonds are for the girl. period. The only "investment" an engagement ring is, is to wife your girl. If what she wants is a diamond, it doesn't matter what rational reasoning you have to buy her an Emerald or Ruby... She ain't gonna be happy unless it's a diamond lol

[flameboy54]

Stop buying diamonds, worst investment on the face of the earth. Trust me.

Your should buy a rare gem and set it by a custom jeweler in Vancouver.

10 Facts About Diamonds You Should Know - Neatorama (http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/01/10-facts-about-diamonds-you-should-know/#!wiACr)

Ten Rarest Precious Stones | Jewels du Jour (http://www.jewelsdujour.com/2012/08/ten-rarest-precious-stones/)

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I would question ones investment knowledge if they're buying diamonds as an investment. As for as I know, most if not all diamonds are bought to be worn as personal adornments not as investment vehicles.

Buying a rare gem, while creative, might be an ever worse idea then buying a diamond as an investment. Firstly, all of the stones listed on the link you provided, with the exception of jadeite and, of course, red diamond, would not hold up to daily wear and tear compared to diamond. I'd guarantee you by 2 years time your rare stone will have worn facet edges, chips, scratches, etc.

Secondly, if you can afford to buy the more expensive stones on the list, you’re insurance premiums would be through the roof. And should something happen to the stone and you need to make a claim for it, your jeweler may or may not find the same or comparable stone to replace with.

I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade, just want to educate people who are thinking outside of the box from buying a diamond.

With all that said, I’ll be the first to admit that I dislike diamonds as much as you duc_evo_sp but I do agree that it’s an ideal choice for several reasons – 10 on the Moh’s scale of hardness means that it’ll withstand daily wear and tear, easily replaceable if you damage or lose it, and there’s something about a clean, well cut stone with maximum fire and scintillation….at least to me.

Signed,
Someone who’s been in the jewelry industry for 7 years

[ForbiddenX]

Bought a ring from spence. Loved the service and the ring. Was thinking of doing it online but liked how I can see the diamonds and ring first.

[Hehe]

Is it necessary?

What I'd do: just cut her a check of $xxx (the price for the ring) and fold it into a big ring (more like a bracelet, but you get the idea)

I could have gotten a ring, then I figured it might not be the one you want. So, just go do whatever you want with this check.

[HondaGuy]

Remember the 4 C's...

Carat, colour, clarity, cut...

Clarity: Highest: VVS1, VVS2...VS1, VS2...SI1, SI2...I1, I2 etc...
Colour: Highest: D,E,F...(clear) G,H,I (slight yellow) ... Etc

Good luck!!
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[sonick]

Any recommended local custom jewelers for the custom-made ring/setting route?

[Alby]

i bought mine at a local store in richmond in central square, the plaza between aberdeen and parker place. i was a noobie walking in and walked out being very knowledgeable. i was referred there by a family friend. service was great.

[Special K]

I was looking at the custom route (setting). The end quality is not on par as compared to "designer" brands.

I ended up a Tacori setting and picked my own diamond on James Allen.

Is it expensive? Yes
Is it necessary? No, but if you can afford a big diamond go for it.

Tip: girls don't really care about the specs. They care about the carat size. Smh
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[Alby]

Tip: girls don't really care about the specs. They care about the carat size. Smh
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i beg to differ when their diamond is yellow with a big noticeable inclusion.

[HondaGuy]

^^ Agreed!! Carat size is one thing but when she sees her friends/coworkers/other shops as comparison or even advice from others...having a unclear/cloudy, inner cracks, "bird poo" (black dot specs) diamond, it looks bad on her and yourself.

Knew someone who spent $2000 or so for a one carat and when I saw it, it was a bunch of small cloudy rocks scattered onto the ring totalling up to one carat.
That is not one carat to me...sorry.
Not saying you have to spend a lot, just be smart and knowledgable...
Find a high clarity and good color first, then think what carat/size pending your budget.

I looked at many local shops before finally deciding a custom engagement and wedding bands in Asia, since I know ppl over there and have access to fly over and bring back.
I did speak to Sandy @ Ben Moss Metrotown and shes knowledgable and gives fair pricing. Look for canadian diamonds, oftentimes they have plenty of selection, grades and prices.

Dont forget to ask if GIA certified...mine did. Full certificate approved and guaranteed.

Good luck!
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[Alby]

^ YES. GIA certified and get it appraised for insurance and traveling papers/purposes.

[Gnomes]

Saw this at that "F'ed up stuff what makes you laugh" thread. If you want the coles note, skip to 2:40 mark

http://youtu.be/N5kWu1ifBGU?t=2m40s

[Special K]

i beg to differ when their diamond is yellow with a big noticeable inclusion.

For me I went with VS2 / excellent / F / 1.01 ct with < 0.5 in the HCA calculator. One of my friends went IF :ahwow:

Either way your future wife should be happy with whatever you pick. My advice is propose with the diamond (with a ring mold clip) and let her pick the setting later.
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[Special K]

Premier Diamond and Jewelry Community | PriceScope (http://www.pricescope.com)

Do your own research.
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[tiger_handheld]

Tip: girls don't really care about the specs. They care about the carat size. Smh
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Show me one girl as such, and I'll show you 10 that are opposite.

I've been given the specs already: VVS1 , D/E , platinum

On Topic: There is a tiffany ring finder app for folks on Iphone. How do I know you ask? It magically appeared on my phone day..

[winson604]

Just got an engagement ring + 2 wedding bands from Rare Investments located in the World Trade Centre at Canada place. GIA certified and custom made and I'm very happy so far.

[Majestic12]

From my research, I found that buying from the US let me get a better stone, at a better price, than I would have been able to get here. But... the dollar has been suffering lately, so that may no longer be the case. If it gets up to par again, might be something to consider.

Personally, if I HAD to choose somewhere local, I wouldn't go somewhere where you know the name from advertising. I don't give a shit about ads or marketing or hype. I'd rather they just provide quality service and quality product, rather than charging a premium so they can afford shitty advertising or leases in Metrotown or at prime spots downtown.

[racerman88]

I went through Diamond.ca | Canadian Diamonds Vancover (http://diamond.ca/)
Had the ring made.
Make an appt to see Ran

[E_Fahlman]

Remember the 4 C's...

Carat, colour, clarity, cut...

Clarity: Highest: VVS1, VVS2...VS1, VS2...SI1, SI2...I1, I2 etc...
Colour: Highest: D,E,F...(clear) G,H,I (slight yellow) ... Etc

Good luck!!
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Don't forget Internally Flawless & Flawless both are above VVS1. As far as my experinces when I got married. I didn 't like the pressure that Ben Moss and Spence Diamonds both put on me by their sales people. I've honestly had better experinces buying cars from dealerships. In the end I bought my wife's engagment ring and wedding band from Blue Nile Diamonds in the states. Purchased it online; spoke to a rep over the phone and had the ring within two days. Their website is very good for reasearching prices, understand what you're buying and so fourth. However like the Previous poster mentioned the dollar is down to .90$ to USD so buying out of the states may not be worth it but I found a much better deal in the states and likely saved anywhere between 2-3K

Also side note: Depending on your budget you may want to check out the local Jewellery Auctions that happen every couple months. My wife and I have been to about a dozen of them and I've noticed a pattern that Diamond Jewellery sells for around a third of MSRP. Not to be confused with Appraisal Value as this is always usually double what it's worth. But I've seen 15-20,000$ Tiffany Engagment Rings sell for 5-7000$ at Auction. Even with the 15% Buyer's Premiums and Tax you're still coming out way ahead.

Hope this was helpful.
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[alwayslive]

not too sure if you bought the ring yet, but if you're willing to travel down to Toronto there's a really good place called the diamond studio. Look them up on Facebook they do custom rings and I've talked to the guy before the pricing is pretty good too.
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[What_the?]

Bought mines from Blue Nile online as well.

Couple things to consider for you is what "really" matters when you're looking at a diamond with your eyes.

Cut - matters lots, go for ideal as this affects brilliance of the ring
Color - Also matters (to an extent). Realistically D and E color are going to be not really noticeable compared to F or even G color diamonds with good brilliance. Can't tell tiny differences in color when it's sparkling like crazy in your face
Clarity - Realistically anything above VS1 or VS2 is a waste of money since you're paying for something you can't see. The number of people that have taken a microscope to my fiancee's ring = ZERO. VS1 or VS2 should all have no inclusions visible to the naked eye.

One thing noone seems to look for is the PROPORTIONS of the diamond. The shape of a diamond matters almost more since you could have something D color, with flawless clarity but look super dull since it's shape is tall and skinny, or perhaps short and fat. The shape of the diamond affects how it collects light, and how the light reflects back out of the diamond and the sparkle in your face. If it loses alot of the light it captures, then it will look dull. The table percentage, depth percentage, crown angle, pavillion angle, etc all will determine how brilliant your diamond will look. If you pick something that has as close to an ideal shape as possible (you can find measurements online) you will have an amazingly brilliant stone that will drop jaws.

Blue nile allows you to look through all the diamonds individually and see the reports which give you all the measurements that you can sift through. Jewellery stores don't.

Good luck

[winson604]

Bought mines from Blue Nile online as well.

Couple things to consider for you is what "really" matters when you're looking at a diamond with your eyes.

Cut - matters lots, go for ideal as this affects brilliance of the ring
Color - Also matters (to an extent). Realistically D and E color are going to be not really noticeable compared to F or even G color diamonds with good brilliance. Can't tell tiny differences in color when it's sparkling like crazy in your face
Clarity - Realistically anything above VS1 or VS2 is a waste of money since you're paying for something you can't see. The number of people that have taken a microscope to my fiancee's ring = ZERO. VS1 or VS2 should all have no inclusions visible to the naked eye.

One thing noone seems to look for is the PROPORTIONS of the diamond. The shape of a diamond matters almost more since you could have something D color, with flawless clarity but look super dull since it's shape is tall and skinny, or perhaps short and fat. The shape of the diamond affects how it collects light, and how the light reflects back out of the diamond and the sparkle in your face. If it loses alot of the light it captures, then it will look dull. The table percentage, depth percentage, crown angle, pavillion angle, etc all will determine how brilliant your diamond will look. If you pick something that has as close to an ideal shape as possible (you can find measurements online) you will have an amazingly brilliant stone that will drop jaws.

Blue nile allows you to look through all the diamonds individually and see the reports which give you all the measurements that you can sift through. Jewellery stores don't.

Good luck

There are places in Vancouver that allow you to see the GIA report first, of course as you said these won't be in your regular stores but otherwise it's available.

[Majestic12]

If a place DOESN'T let you see the measurements and appraisal report, I wouldn't even consider buying from them.

[svelt]

carat may be important but you have to consider your girl's style and hand size/body size. If you date someone relatively petite with small dainty hands, it's not a bad idea to go for something a little smaller but with better specs. JMO from asking a few women myself as I have been hunting. A huge ring on a tiny hand is not necessary, and potentially even slightly gaudy. I personally like what Birk's and Tiffany's does if you and your girl are willing to compromise on size to get something affordable. The others' designs (Ben Moss, People's etc.) are a lot less classy and elegant from my shopping experience. I also was not terribly pleased with the service at Spence. Having only fake diamonds on display is not my idea of adequately trying before buying.

On the flip side if your girl has larger hands... go bluenile and just get the largest rock you can find with the lowest possible specs that you cannot see with the naked eye.

[will068]

I was looking at the custom route (setting). The end quality is not on par as compared to "designer" brands.

I ended up a Tacori setting and picked my own diamond on James Allen.

Is it expensive? Yes
Is it necessary? No, but if you can afford a big diamond go for it.

Tip: girls don't really care about the specs. They care about the carat size. Smh
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Bought mine there as well just now.

No more more Jordan's for a while.... :okay: