[dee242]

Im looking to get in but there not hiring, any of you guys willing to help?

[Hot Karl]

you have alot to learn about the docks if you think this is how you get a job there.

if you want money, get a trade and work out of town.

[hal0g0dv2]

took my buddie 10 years to finnaly get full time. Rs probably not the best place for help for this topic
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[LC21]

Docks go by senority, good luck trying to find work.
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[Mike Oxbig]

Are you white? It's very very difficult since its a white mans world in there and most hiring is through connections. It goes by seniority.

You most likely not gonna get the longshore man job unless u wait 10 years... those ppl does jack and just sit in their cars all day and get paid.

Do you just want to get inside to work?

[xpl0sive]

try vancouvermustangs.com might have better luck on there.... LOL

[trancehead]

LOL

[Vansterdam]

if anyone can hook me up there please let me know :fullofwin:

srs

[dee242]

Are you white? It's very very difficult since its a white mans world in there and most hiring is through connections. It goes by seniority.

You most likely not gonna get the longshore man job unless u wait 10 years... those ppl does jack and just sit in their cars all day and get paid.

Do you just want to get inside to work?

yeah i just want to work

[meme405]

yeah i just want to work

Look the point has been made, you are not going to get hired at the docks by posting a thread on a local automotive forum...

Go get a job and get a trade ticket. Or go work as a crane operator up at mac, or up north somewhere. They want people with experience...

This isn't the 1940's when you can go stand by a gate, and they come and pick new labourers every morning...

[MarkyMark]

I have a buddy who works there and like said above, it took him about 10 years to get on full time, and it'll till be a year or two before he's a full on member. The money sounds amazing though, if you're willing to work nights or graveyards.

[falcon]

Yo man I work there, I can get you started ASAP. Full union benefits, no wait. PM me,.. my fee is $500 to get you in. Please send money to paypal "areyouserious@youdumbass.com"

Show up for work early Monday morning at the docks, I'll be the guy not there, sleeping in my bed.

[yray]

^email and funds sent :fuckyea: 48$ job here i come

[dee242]

wasnt looking for someone to hook me up was just wondering how you would even go about getting this job

[Harvey Specter]

wasnt looking for someone to hook me up was just wondering how you would even go about getting this job

You need to know people or wait for another public hiring, last time was a few years back because I know a few guys who got lucky and got jobs.

[rriggi]

lol one of my fathers friends is a crane operator, income is insane considering what he does.....

I can't imagine what would happen if the dock workers ever decided to strike:suspicious:

[Lomac]

I've got a few friends who work at the various docks (surprisingly, one of 'em is a girl lol). It's damn hard to get in and the only reason why most of 'em managed to get hired is because they had an in with either a family member or close friend who works/worked there. That said, if you can finally get in, if you put the hours in, you can get some fantastic paycheques. Provided you can get in...

[zilley]

buddy got in because of his dad that has worked there for decades, and even then only 1 of the son got in, theres 2 others that are still waiting.

[4444]

I know nothing about this world, but let me ask some qu's:

what are the barriers to entry? it is unions?

What strikes me is that there is a huge barrier to entry (likely not education, i appreciate you probably need a 2 year trade/some apprenticeship, in this day an age that's the norm, so not a barrier to entry), yet pay is high, and there's huge demand (likely because of the relatively high pay.

Why is this not a market based system, where because demand hugely outstrips supply pay should go down to equate the two - I assume this is union related.

Total BS (and no, i'm not saying this b/c i want to work in that field, i'm as white collar as they come, you really couldn't pay me enough to work with inbred mustang driving hicks (and yes, I've owned a mustang and am Caucasian))

[MarkyMark]

I don't believe any education is required, and yeah it's union so that's why the pay is so high.

It's give and take imo. Yeah you're making awesome money but only if you work nights or graveyard. I think the pay is something like $30 something an hour on days, $40+ on afternoons and $50+ on graveyards.

My buddy only works graveyard, said he made almost 110k last year. He also barely gets any sleep and looks like he's in his mid 30's at 28.
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[stewie]

I've got a few friends who work at the various docks (surprisingly, one of 'em is a girl lol). It's damn hard to get in and the only reason why most of 'em managed to get hired is because they had an in with either a family member or close friend who works/worked there. That said, if you can finally get in, if you put the hours in, you can get some fantastic paycheques. Provided you can get in...

Everyone I know who got in has an uncle or father who works there.

Guy I know got in because his dad's a foreman, and even after a year + being there, without him having a trade he gets maybe 1-2 shifts a week at tops.

I'd love to work there, but unless I'm getting enough shifts to cover my bills, not worth it. If I was 18 again I'd be applying non stop, but the older I get the less appealing longshore becomes. Who wants to be 25-45 and only getting 1-2 shifts a week (if your lucky). To me it seems like one of those get in when your young and living with your parents...or struggle with bills for a few years until you can get a few shifts more a week
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[MG1]

Probably not anywhere like it used to be working as a longshoreman, but prerequisite course was, azzhole 101.

Dickwad 101 and shitface 200 level courses were optional.

I'm sure things have changed a bit.



Hey, maybe I should apply, LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[DC5-S]

Get into a trade and work in alberta. You won't have to bust your ass and you'll get paid more
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[Mike Oxbig]

Who wants to live in Alberta? Especially Edmonton. :fuckthatshit:

[DC5-S]

When you work in a camp you don't have too ;)
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[eurochevy]

Getting hired atm would require you to go there and sit there for hours and not get work every day and then have a side job to support yourself so no they are not hiring. That being said im sure if you go to the union's office im sure if you ask really nicely they'll let you in just for being a good guy. :fuckthatshit:

[strykn]

Rare as getting the golden ticket for willy wonkas chocolate factory

[Gucci Mane]

Lol anyone actually even have a clue what goes on at Vancouver port? With Vancouver port your chances of getting in are slim to nothing. You can camp out there all night if you want and you probably still won't get a job. Delta port there's a better chance of getting in if they do a public hiring, but it's rare.. If you have close friends and family that work there then you might have an in, but even then you won't get any shifts. For the first couple of years you'll get 2-3 shifts a month at best.
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[Energy]

Everyone makes this sound like the holy grail of jobs. I'm not familiar with this profession at all... is it just a lot of money for relatively little work?

[eurochevy]

Lol anyone actually even have a clue what goes on at Vancouver port? With Vancouver port your chances of getting in are slim to nothing. You can camp out there all night if you want and you probably still won't get a job. Delta port there's a better chance of getting in if they do a public hiring, but it's rare.. If you have close friends and family that work there then you might have an in, but even then you won't get any shifts. For the first couple of years you'll get 2-3 shifts a month at best.
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yep pretty much this

[Mike Oxbig]

It is and without connection your not getting the job anytime soon.

[Harvey Specter]

Everyone makes this sound like the holy grail of jobs. I'm not familiar with this profession at all... is it just a lot of money for relatively little work?

Not easy per say, a lot of shift work and working outdoors. I must have at least 10 friends who who work at the port. Most of them never graduated high school so for them this job is the holy grail. A couple of friends who quit college and started working at the port want to get out and do something else.

[xpl0sive]

a buddy of mine got his electrician ticket and got hired at the Vancouver docks because he knew someone in management. After about a year of working 2-3 days a week he quit and went to Ft. Mac instead. Just like everyone says, no one with less than 10 yrs gets full time shifts there. If you're into trades, AB is the place to be. My buddy works 21 days on, 7 days off, stays in a camp, eats for free, they fly him back here for 7 days off and fly him back. He makes about $8k after tax every 21 days...

[MarkyMark]

For no education it's definitely the holy grail of jobs. Once you're a member you can pretty much cherry pick the jobs, so when you know a ship is finishing early into the shift you'll probably work two hours and get sent home with a full days pay. You have job security for life, you literally have to do something outrageous and then some to get fired. When you want holidays you just take them for as long as you want since the spare board is so big you're easily replaced.
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[Harvey Specter]

a buddy of mine got his electrician ticket and got hired at the Vancouver docks because he knew someone in management. After about a year of working 2-3 days a week he quit and went to Ft. Mac instead. Just like everyone says, no one with less than 10 yrs gets full time shifts there. If you're into trades, AB is the place to be. My buddy works 21 days on, 7 days off, stays in a camp, eats for free, they fly him back here for 7 days off and fly him back. He makes about $8k after tax every 21 days...

A lot of the grain elevators are looking for electricians and they can't find any. Very high paying jobs as well.

[xpl0sive]

A lot of the grain elevators are looking for electricians and they can't find any. Very high paying jobs as well.

Another friend of mine works at a grain elevator... maybe I'll introduce the two of them once my electrician friend gets tired of AB...

By the way, to actually get jobs at the docks once you get hired, you have to physically show up every morning and hope there's work available. Some weeks, you may only get 1 shift, so the other days you show up for nothing

[meme405]

With how many companies looking for trades people now, why bother trying to chase and impossible to land job.

Go get on as a sparky, or tinbasher, hell even millwrights are in demand, steam fitters, welders, etc.

Any of the trades listed above are in demand all over BC and AB, and even as an apprentice you can make 120k a year.

As a ticketed tradesperson you can top 200k easily.

[geeknerd]

i have a ticket to working for longshore. tbh i never heard of it until i got offered the chance but i heard its a well known in the 'white-mans' world... or maybe i was just ignorant.

If i do work there i would have to work at the bottom and do the manual labour in the beginning but gets easier.

is it worth? currently in school for business..

[Mike Oxbig]

White mans world indeed. If you got an opportunity get in there... you might get dick around for a bit but the income is worth it.

[shenmecar]

how much is income for a longshoreman? sounds like a labourer type of job.........

[Mike Oxbig]

100k

[MarkyMark]

Members can make upward of 150k with overtime
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[Lowered_Klass]

After reading the thread title, I just couldn't resist...



http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46889291.jpg

[Hondaracer]

Just go work in Alberta rather than working 2 shifts a month for 2 years..
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[Hot Karl]

work in alberta so goddamn easy. man up and leave town.

by far the best decision i've made for my financial future.

i'm an electrician. aka glorified but overpaid labor.

[subordinate]

work in alberta so goddamn easy. man up and leave town.

by far the best decision i've made for my financial future.

i'm an electrician. aka glorified but overpaid labor.

Been looking into the field but to even get on as a 1st year is tough.
Called around a couple places but you either need connections or take the Ibew ELTT or BCIT's ELTT, both have waitlists.

I'm reading all these demands but realistically, you need someone in the know or you are already an apprentice.

If ya don't mind me askin, what was your route Hot Karl?

[Hot Karl]

i did my 1st and 2nd year schooling and got onto an industrial gig out of town. i did have a connection that got me into the site.

the most common way to get on without a connection would be to start as a laborer and become an electrical apprentice. i've seen lots of laborers get into the field like this without any education. just be a good worker, talk and be friendly. it's by far the most effective way because they actually know how you work. this path can take a wee bit of time, but at least you're earning at that time and getting to know folks in the industry. now a wee bit of time is 3-6 months. not like a year or two.

if you're a 1st year, it's harder to get hired. 2nd year gives you a much better chance of being hired. if you can wait a bit, i'd say do a classic 1st year working residential/commercial work and apply out hard when you become a 2nd year apprentice. this will take longer to get the 1500 hours but you will have some actual knowledge as opposed to just knowing how to pull cable.

ibew is meh. obviously if you have an in, then ibew is much better like all unions. but they don't seem to have as many jobs as other "unions" that aren't as powerful/expensive/well known. the fact is anyone can underbid ibew because of the classic union stuff. double time on weekends, or crazy shit like weeks of double time. yea that shit sounds amazing, but shit like that makes companies look for any excuse to get rid of people. you're expensive? well you're the first to be laid off.

i did my schooling at sprott shaw. waitlists are bullshit. no one cares where you did your schooling as long as you pass.

it's not to say they don't hire 1st years, it's just that the project usually has been running for a while before they'll take 1st years. it may seem like an old boys club, but classic "public hires" are still done at all levels of the industry.

at the end of the day, get 1st year schooling done, and apply out everywhere. your first gig might be ridiculously far and boonie but it's a start. once you get into a job, as long as you're not a complete moron, the hookups from co workers you'll get are insane. you'll see the same folks within a few jobs all the time. they'll tell you if their new job is hiring etc etc. that's when it gets stupid easy. you stay in touch with facebook and voila.

[d.biring]

I've been working as a longshoreman for about 8 years. It is hard to get in and the only time is when they do a big hiring usually once every few years. The first couple years are always tough but if you put in the time and effort it's well worth it. I love what I do
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[Everymans]

Interesting read folks. I thought longshoreman was a booming career due to world trade. But then again the vancouver port is constantly backed up for unkown (to me) reasons.

[trollface]

Ahahaha ^ really?

You mean getting paid a lot per hr in an union enviroment does not produce high productivity?

[ninjatune]

Go to jail, associate yourself with a gang, meet your longshoreman contacts and voila, you'll get a job. Don't forget to do your lines and piss off the crane platform.

[gary92]

looks like there's something going on

vancouver, BC all for sale / wanted classifieds "longshore" - craigslist (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/?sort=rel&areaID=16&subAreaID=&query=longshore&catAbb=sss)

[Gucci Mane]

yeah, people actually pay to get applications... its fucked.

[skiiipi]

looks like there's something going on

vancouver, BC all for sale / wanted classifieds "longshore" - craigslist (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/?sort=rel&areaID=16&subAreaID=&query=longshore&catAbb=sss)

yeah, people actually pay to get applications... its fucked.

so how does this work? only select individuals get an application form?
and from there, that application is transferable?
this doesn't even make sense...

[BrRsn]

^longshore applications were a scam IIRC -- there's so many guys who paid $1k-$2k for one and never got anywhere.

The people who I know that got into longshore either had a ticket -- some trade skill i.e. electrician, heavy duty mechanic, etc., or they got in with the lottery back in ~2005/2006

[white rocket]

Go to jail, associate yourself with a gang, meet your longshoreman contacts and voila, you'll get a job. Don't forget to do your lines and piss off the crane platform.

I've heard crazy stories from various friends that work as longshoremen. How they got in, how much they are paid, the kind of stuff they do on the job, etc. It's all pretty shocking to me. I even heard of one of them going to jail for a 2 year bid and got paid the whole time. WTF? I'm surprised to hear people say that this is a white mans field as every longshoreman I know is brown.

Either way, as others have said, you need a connection to get in with them.

[Gululu]

so... so.. what happens when they recruit an Asian person?

1. will this ever happen?
2. what hppens next?
3. do non-whites gets worse treatment during the job?

im very intrigued by this topic

[eurochevy]

so... so.. what happens when they recruit an Asian person?

1. will this ever happen?
2. what hppens next?
3. do non-whites gets worse treatment during the job?

im very intrigued by this topic

1. yes it already has
2. ...nothing ?
3. no

[Hondaracer]

Fuckin non-whites

Southpark - They Took Our Job! - YouTube
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[gary92]

I've heard crazy stories from various friends that work as longshoremen. How they got in, how much they are paid, the kind of stuff they do on the job, etc. It's all pretty shocking to me. I even heard of one of them going to jail for a 2 year bid and got paid the whole time. WTF? I'm surprised to hear people say that this is a white mans field as every longshoreman I know is brown.

Either way, as others have said, you need a connection to get in with them.

your friend is lying :hotbaby:

[eurochevy]

I've heard crazy stories from various friends that work as longshoremen. How they got in, how much they are paid, the kind of stuff they do on the job, etc. It's all pretty shocking to me. I even heard of one of them going to jail for a 2 year bid and got paid the whole time. WTF? I'm surprised to hear people say that this is a white mans field as every longshoreman I know is brown.

Either way, as others have said, you need a connection to get in with them.

You must believe everything you hear... Did you know if you sign a blank cheque over to the uhh..... "bank of eurochevy" that you will have peace and enlightenment in your life until you die. I swear its real :ilied:

[white rocket]

I know, I know. I'm just commenting on some of the things I hear coming from those I know in the industry. Not saying I believe any of it as I have no proof. I found it shocking that every person I know in the industry has one of these crazy far fetched stories to tell. Interesting coincidence.

[Gucci Mane]

so how does this work? only select individuals get an application form?
and from there, that application is transferable?
this doesn't even make sense...

some people that work at the ports will hand them out and make a small fortune. lol. like i said, the whole thing is fucked.

[Gululu]

To all the longshore men go back to work !!
Since the job pays relatively well and such desirable amongst the whites then why are you guys on strike? I have shipments unable to be retrieved. I lose profits each day as you continue ur strike.

Maybe port of vancouver should really start thinking hiring other ethnicities that would happily be willing to work.

[saveth]

To all the longshore men go back to work !!
Since the job pays relatively well and such desirable amongst the whites then why are you guys on strike? I have shipments unable to be retrieved. I lose profits each day as you continue ur strike.

Maybe port of vancouver should really start thinking hiring other ethnicities that would happily be willing to work.

The truckers that drive the containers that arrived to there next destination are on strike. They are not longshoremen.
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[GotRice?]

work in alberta so goddamn easy. man up and leave town.

by far the best decision i've made for my financial future.

i'm an electrician. aka glorified but overpaid labor.



same here i left GVRD and never looked back... i still live in van but i don't work in van i work in northern ab... if you want to work and you like to learn and work hard while making big bucks, up north is the way to go not just ab, its also northern bc too with all the oil sands, and different type of mines up there booming go early b4 its too late...

lol we should a revscene group for people that work up north in the -40 degrees of ab or bc

[BrRsn]

To all the longshore men go back to work !!
Since the job pays relatively well and such desirable amongst the whites then why are you guys on strike? I have shipments unable to be retrieved. I lose profits each day as you continue ur strike.

Maybe port of vancouver should really start thinking hiring other ethnicities that would happily be willing to work.

lol the whites

http://i.imgur.com/HsPAM9m.png

[Lomac]

To all the longshore men go back to work !!
Since the job pays relatively well and such desirable amongst the whites then why are you guys on strike? I have shipments unable to be retrieved. I lose profits each day as you continue ur strike.

Maybe port of vancouver should really start thinking hiring other ethnicities that would happily be willing to work.

Failed for two reasons...

The truckers are on strike, not the labourers.

The racist comment. I could just as easily respond by saying those on strike typically represent visible minorities that are usually happily willing to work... But I won't, because that's a stereotype and not the right thing to day.

[604STIG]

Job applications are distributed to members only, they then turn around and sell them for small fortunes. People are paying for the applications, that doesn't mean they get the job, just the opportunity to apply for one.

[white rocket]

To all the longshore men go back to work !!
Since the job pays relatively well and such desirable amongst the whites then why are you guys on strike? I have shipments unable to be retrieved. I lose profits each day as you continue ur strike.

Maybe port of vancouver should really start thinking hiring other ethnicities that would happily be willing to work.

Gee whiz, so sorry that your profits are being hit so hard. If you're as baller as some of your pictures would indicate then you should be able to float your business through this trying time without issue.

Amongst the whites? LOL! Bonus points for the white comment as I almost kinda felt insulted. Being white I know how immune we are to racism so kudos for sort of getting my feathers russled.:ilied:

[AzNightmare]

wasnt looking for someone to hook me up was just wondering how you would even go about getting this job

How to Become a Longshoreman: 7 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow (http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Longshoreman)

[Tone Loc]

Back on topic... it's really hard. My uncle is one, and so was my dad for a time back in the 70s and 80s when it was easier to get in. Nowadays you need really good connections, and even then it's no guarantee.

That said, if you think it is easy, good money you are misinformed. The only ones who make tons of $$ are the ones who put in insane amounts of overtime, night shifts, weekends, graveyard shifts... basically putting in 70+ hour weeks 365 days a year. Why have all that money if you're too dead on your feet to enjoy any of it?

[Klutch]

applications for surrey ports are out. they going from 20-40gs plus its a guarantee in, no lottery style picks.

[d.biring]

applications for surrey ports are out. they going from 20-40gs plus its a guarantee in, no lottery style picks.

Applications aren't out.
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[Surrey_604]

Applications are out does anybody know anyone giving theirs?

[Surrey_604]

If so let me know I want one!!!!

[waddy41]

Found similar posting on Canucks forum...just absolutely disgusting how applications are handed out to someone you know or sold for $7k

Can't believe this can go on at a major port, this shit is affecting our economy..

any longshoreman here? - Off-Topic General - Canucks Community (http://forum.canucks.com/topic/289372-any-longshoreman-here/)

[quasi]

You have a better chance of Kate Upton calling you by mistake and then asking if you'll come over and love her long time then you do some stranger helping some other random guy on the interweb get into that boys club.

I can't believe people even ask, go to school and try and find a decent job because none of you guys asking for an in are never going to be a long shoreman. #toughlove