[Gululu]

Wealthy foreign student wants visa renewed after dodging customs (http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2014/03/12/wealthy-foreign-student-wants-visa-renewed-after-dodging-customs)

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A “wealthy” Chinese national who only claimed $710 in purchases but brought back $57,000 in luxury goods from Hermes in Las Vegas has been convicted and fined following a Crown appeal.

Xiaochen Zhao, a University of Victoria student here on visa, had her charges stayed earlier on condition of community service after a judge heard she’d likely be “inadmissible” in Canada with a conviction.

In a Wednesday decision, however, the B.C. Court of Appeal disagreed. It said immigration issues “must not divert the judge” from an appropriate sentence.

The court found the frequent traveller — a 24-year-old economics student and daughter of a wealthy Beijing businessman — had twice brought back undeclared goods in the space of a month in November 2011.

Various Hermes products, “including a handbag, wallet, shoes, jewellery, scarves, and accessories” — gifts for her parents, she told the court — were undeclared when she was caught after flying back into Canada.

Paying the court-ordered fine of $10,000 wasn’t the issue. Zhao, the court heard, was in the final year of her university program and wanted to remain in Canada to finish it — with the possibility of entering a financial career in the country. The conviction would have put her status in Canada in jeopardy.

“We are not faced with the limited adjustment to an otherwise fit sentence to avoid unnecessary consequences,” Justice Edward Chiasson wrote in the appeal decision.

“This case involves abandoning a criminal sanction that is fit and substituting for it a completely different sanction because a conviction might have serious immigration implications for the offender.”

The amount of tax she would’ve had to pay if the goods were declared was $9,000.

Border authorities also order her to pay $15,400, which included penalties.

The court noted whether Zhao is deported would be for immigration authorities to decide.


:whistle::whistle:

[white rocket]

Paying the court-ordered fine of $10,000 wasn’t the issue

well there's a fuckin' shocker. I don't understand why she wouldn't declare everything is she is rich as fuck. Buys $57,000 worth of fashion then tries to be sneaky to save $9k? :rukidding:

[sekin67835]

well there's a fuckin' shocker. I don't understand why she wouldn't declare everything is she is rich as fuck. Buys $57,000 worth of fashion then tries to be sneaky to save $9k? :rukidding:

How did you think they got rich? By spending? :troll:

[Sid Vicious]

lol thats the contradiction of these people. spend thousands of dollars on pointless useless luxury crap, but are cheap as fuck in other areas

[sdubfid]

that store sounds like a disease

[EuterVanWasser]

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/attachments/concealed-carry-discussion/7969d1354320501-what-most-friendly-state-conceled-carry-448x249px-ll-3dd0d362_what-do-you-mean-you-people-tropic-thunder-movie-1309633407.jpg

[white rocket]

How did you think they got rich? By spending? :troll:

You don't get rich by giving stuff away! I get it. Still though, that seems like such a high risk for the savings. I'd push for deportation but I'm a fucking dick. LOL!

[GGnoRE]

Clearly not a very good economics student for sure

[z3german]

1 caught

thousands unanswered for

[320icar]

Fuck him.
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[Gumby]

Fuck him.
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Her, I think you mean.

[HonestTea]

I'll be the first one to say, just deport her. She broke the law and that's that. There shouldn't be any exceptions regardless.

Fuck her studies, as a university student, she should know better than to try and avoid taxes on luxury goods.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Fuck him.
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Is a her.. I will tap it and then deport her ass out of Canada =D

[bballguy]

I'd deport her ass too...

[jeedee]

I wonder if she'll be on the next episode of Border Security :troll:

Border Security: Canada's Front Line - season 2 trailer - YouTube

[FerrariEnzo]

wasnt she caught before also.. why she still here.. send her ass back...

[fliptuner]

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/gtfo/grand/gtfo-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-2720.gif

[Manic!]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?

[TouringTeg]

Here is another guy busted trying to bring his restored Chevelle into Canada without declaring the work done.

Sneaking repaired classic car into Canada costs man $55K - Nova Scotia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/sneaking-repaired-classic-car-into-canada-costs-man-55k-1.2572804)

[z3german]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?

Everyone is jumping on the hate the china bandwagon

They are a bunch of cheeky shady cunts doe so I dont mind.

[HonestTea]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?

You gonna explain why you failed us or are you just trigger happy?

[Tone Loc]

Kick her out IMO. We need to set a tougher example to people who do this type of stuff, especially people on Visa where it is a privilege to be in the country. ...If you can afford $50,000+ of luxury goods then you can afford the $9000 duty (from the article) that you must pay. Ridiculous that the Judge didn't want to "inconvenience" this person so he basically ignored the law... sometimes I think we are too tolerant. They don't want someone to be "Inadmissible" ? So what? Do they think she will suddenly become a completely law-abiding person once she becomes a Canadian citizen? Likely no, because she now knows that our gov't is so tolerant. This person knew the rules, consciously lied to save money, is here on a Visa condition that she follow the laws and regulations, and she still decided to break the law. Twice.

As I said before when it was posted earlier.

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?

What does that have to do with anything? You still have to declare the stuff, and you get penalized the same if you get caught lying (which is really dumb... let's be real here, the CBSA folks at Point Roberts know you're not there to sightsee when you're only gone for 10 minutes). It's not the fact that this person spent money out-of-country and brought the goods back, or that she's rich, or from China, yada yada yada... but that they lied to customs (and was dumb enough to get caught twice before, mind you) and are now trying to beg for leniency when they were the ones who broke the law instead of doing the right thing and paying the duty.

Moreover, most people I know ship to USA to save on shipping costs and time... nothing like spending $15 for 3-day USPS (good guys) priority mail vs. $40 for 7-10 day UPS (assholes) ground who won't give you your parcel until the last possible day AND with a fat brokerage fee

[Jmac]

You gonna explain why you failed us or are you just trigger happy?
Because tax evasion and knowingly breaking the law while you're on a visa should obviously be tolerated, even encouraged ... Because logic ...

[Gumby]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?
Having a mail box just across the border allows you to buy stuff that doesn't ship to Canada and/or save on the price of the item. It doesn't mean you bring things back without declaring them.

[fliptuner]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?

Nope but if I did and when I do come back over with goods, I declare everything.

If it was someone on here that got busted for not claiming $3k worth of car parts, I'd react the same way.

To add, when one visits another country it's just plain stupid to not acquaint one's self with the laws and acceptable behavior within that country.

[320icar]

Her, I think you mean.

Lol yes. It autocorrected em to him
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[320icar]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?

I order parts to point Roberts all the time. Declare it every time And have never NOT been sent in to pay. That's part of being a Canadian and being a productive member of society
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[quasi]

I order parts to point Roberts all the time. Declare it every time And have never NOT been sent in to pay. That's part of being a Canadian and being a productive member of society
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Point Roberts was terrible for me, every single time I had stuff shipped there I would get sent in and have to pay duty. I now ship to Hagens of Blaine, never had to pay at that crossing is fucking weird. I declare every time as well, provide receipts but for me anyway the Point Roberts guards were never good to me.

My wife goes weekly she's never paid a cent of duty on anything ever.

[Manic!]

I order parts to point Roberts all the time. Declare it every time And have never NOT been sent in to pay. That's part of being a Canadian and being a productive member of society
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Legally you are supposed to pay. Next time tell the boarder agent you want to go inside and pay instead of breaking the law. Or you can just pay revenue Canada when you pay your taxes.

[quasi]

On a side note paying duties in person isn't that bad, I just had a $80 fender eliminator shipped to my office they charged me $60 in duties and brokerage fees the shipping and brokerage cost the same as the item.

[m3thods]

On a side note paying duties in person isn't that bad, I just had a $80 fender eliminator shipped to my office they charged me $60 in duties and brokerage fees the shipping and brokerage cost the same as the item.

It's the brokerage that gets you. You can easily find the duty costs for items being imported into Canada for personal use, but brokerage fees are just subjective costs forwarded to you by shipping companies. If you read the cost breakdown for UPS, it's ridiculous.

I know for UPS, if you opt for anything but UPS ground the brokerage cost is included. But of course you're paying more for said shipping service.

It's always better to cross yourself and pick it up.

[Tone Loc]

It's the brokerage that gets you. You can easily find the duty costs for items being imported into Canada for personal use, but brokerage fees are just subjective costs forwarded to you by shipping companies. If you read the cost breakdown for UPS, it's ridiculous.

I know for UPS, if you opt for anything but UPS ground the brokerage cost is included. But of course you're paying more for said shipping service.

It's always better to cross yourself and pick it up.

Yeah or don't use UPS. Canada Post charges a $10 handling fee above whatever CBSA charges in terms of duty, I've always found it relatively reasonable. That being said, I've never had a low-value item (under $150) taxed... from what I hear, it is manually done by CBSA officers, so like the border crossing it really depends on the officer you get

[fliptuner]

Legally you are supposed to pay. Next time tell the boarder agent you want to go inside and pay instead of breaking the law. Or you can just pay revenue Canada when you pay your taxes.

Legally, you should get a ticket for speeding. Next time you find yourself going over the speed limit, go find the closest cop and demand your ticket.

[Manic!]

Legally, you should get a ticket for speeding. Next time you find yourself going over the speed limit, go find the closest cop and demand your ticket.

I'm not the one claiming to be a dudley do right.

[fliptuner]

If that's what I am cause I declare my goods then......ok.

By failing us for cursing someone who doesn't, are you implying that you support her actions?

[FerrariEnzo]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?
We still have to declare stuff you bring back.. its up to the boarding crossing guard to tax us or not.. unless of you lie about it when you bring stuff back?

[StylinRed]

think you guys missed the point about her being caught back in 2011

so she wont be on that ridiculous show border security (is that canceled yet?)

and she's surely finished her studies by now if not already working

court delays :thumbs:

[doritos]

dumb bitch, these rich ppl deserve what they get. Everyone else has to do it. I hate these cheap rich folks especially the rich chinese here. I am asian as well

[320icar]

Legally you are supposed to pay. Next time tell the boarder agent you want to go inside and pay instead of breaking the law. Or you can just pay revenue Canada when you pay your taxes.

Lol dumbass read it again. I said I've never NOT been sent into pay. Which means i HAVE paid every single time.
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[meme405]

and she's surely finished her studies by now if not already working

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Chances are she will never work a day in this lifetime...:lawl:

[nns]

So no one on RS has a mail box across the boarder?
Legally you are supposed to pay. Next time tell the boarder agent you want to go inside and pay instead of breaking the law. Or you can just pay revenue Canada when you pay your taxes.

It's "border", not "boarder".

[LC21]

Big whoop, this happens all the time.
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[nah]

That would be awesome if they confiscated her items too.

[jpw12]

Rich fobs... sigh

[TOPEC]

Paying the court-ordered fine of $10,000 wasn’t the issue. Zhao, the court heard, was in the final year of her university program and wanted to remain in Canada to finish it — with the possibility of entering a financial career in the country. The conviction would have put her status in Canada in jeopardy.

u and i and every other person know very well that this person aint gonna stay here and work after her studies. we all know that she will go back to her home town and take over her daddy's business cause shes got "education and a degree" from an overseas university. so her using the excuse that she needs to finish her studies so she can find a job here is BS. i say deny her visa so the past 3 years of university is a complete waste for her.

[Carl Johnson]

u and i and every other person know very well that this person aint gonna stay here and work after her studies. we all know that she will go back to her home town and take over her daddy's business cause shes got "education and a degree" from an overseas university. so her using the excuse that she needs to finish her studies so she can find a job here is BS. i say deny her visa so the past 3 years of university is a complete waste for her.

the fact that she wants to go into financial career is even scarier to me. do we need someone with poor ethics and moral like her working in the financial industry handling other people's money when she can't even be honest with herself?

[twdm]

Hey guys. I heard we should deport all tax dodgers. Let's start lining up all the waiters and waitresses and build them an ark.

The only reason you guys want to deport this girl is because she's filthy rich and a mainlander. Heck whenever I cross the border into Sumas I see tons of indian high school girls ripping off the tags from the handbags they bought online. Should I be telling the border agents to deport them and their families as well?

No one is defending her crime, but I think we're trying to lynch her for the wrong reasons.

[320icar]

you cannot compare a $300 bag someone bought online to $56,000 of goods from a repeat offender. each crime has a seperate and appropriate punishment. deporting a family due to not declaring a $300 bag is not just.

maybe deporting her is a bit too severe, but just handing her a 10k fine that she can CLEARLY afford is not an appropriate punishment, and no lesson will be learned.

[wingies]

they should make her work community service hours. The 10,000 fine/min.wage per hour = community service hours and get everyone to film her and send it back to her homeland

im pretty sure thats the only way shes gonna "learn"

[FerrariEnzo]

Jail time... this isnt the first time.. so you let her off with a fine.. then next time like what.. she tries to sneak across with $100k+?? come on... Fraud is fruad...

[Ronin]

Meh.

Am I the only one that would let her off with a slap on the wrist and a hefty fine? Make them pay more each time and stop them at the border EVERY SINGLE TIME to make sure and when they have stuff they haven't declared, make them pay a big fine.

They don't care because they're rich and the government makes money so maybe they can lower my tax rates.

Everyone wins. This is a victimless crime, realistically so just make some money off the fools and let's all move on. Deport? I'd see dollar signs all over these people. If they don't like paying ridiculous amounts, then they'll stop sneaking shit over the border. If they don't care, then the Canadian government can plate all our roads in gold using money we've pilfered from wealthy internationals.

VOTE RONIN 2016

[Szeto]

^you got my vote

[tarobbt]

Strip search her everytime she crosses the border,

That will teach her :troll:

[J____]

I used to travel a ton for work and had a circle of friends that travel a lot as well. We have a joke about custom officers for each country. If you went to the UK, the officer would ask you a bunch of typical questions and then say have a nice trip. If you went to China, they don't say a word and stamp your passport and you just go. Going to Taiwan they ask if it's the first time you've been there and say enjoy your stay with a big smile. Going to the US they don't smile and ask you why you're here to steal american's jobs and send you off into a room for an hour to haggle you. Coming back to Canada, the only question they ask you is what you bought abroad that they can tax you on....

[Harvey Specter]

I wonder how many people buy expensive goods in the US and than ship the stuff back home. I know on the card you fill before landing they ask if you mailed anything back but seems like it would be impossible for Canada customs to control.

[meowjinboo]

wait, if she's not a canadian citizen why is she subject to canadian tax laws?

[Vale46Rossi]

I wonder how many people buy expensive goods in the US and than ship the stuff back home. I know on the card you fill before landing they ask if you mailed anything back but seems like it would be impossible for Canada customs to control.


I knew of someone that got caught for mailing to box back... where they brought home the watch.... lol

[meowjinboo]

do we need someone with poor ethics and moral like her working in the financial industry

is this sarcasm or a joke?

[Hehe]

I wonder if this lady has some fake balls or is just plain stupid? You already got caught before. It's basically taken that you are going to get searched every time you cross the border, and yet she still tries to smuggle shits back?!?! Even if one wanna do it, can she at least buy something that's actually worth the risk? Hermes prices is pretty much the same between US/CA (with the new rate factored in). It's actually more expensive to bring it back if one already has to pay taxes in US.

And she's from my alma mater. Not a way I wanted to read about it on the news. :fuckthatshit:

[wstce92]

the fact that she wants to go into financial career is even scarier to me. do we need someone with poor ethics and moral like her working in the financial industry handling other people's money when she can't even be honest with herself?

If you think that even some of the people in the financial industry have strong ethics and morals... I don't know what to say.
I'm not bashing people in the finance industry, imo it's a game and they're just playing along with everyone else, but it's just that, a game, and a very grey one at that.

[Stormspirit]

i was almost pissing my pants when i didnt declare my second carton of smokes. she managed to do this wit $57000 of goods? well played university student.

[westopher]

You get caught once, I say let them pay their taxes and carry on. It happens again, and you think you can fuck the system? The system should fuck you right back. You want to live here, you play by the rules, or get punished.

[meowjinboo]

I dont get it. Is she a Canadian Citizen?

[nah]

I wonder how many people buy expensive goods in the US and than ship the stuff back home. I know on the card you fill before landing they ask if you mailed anything back but seems like it would be impossible for Canada customs to control.

When you ship back, you still have to declare the value and what in the box.

[westopher]

I wonder how many people buy expensive goods in the US and than ship the stuff back home. I know on the card you fill before landing they ask if you mailed anything back but seems like it would be impossible for Canada customs to control.
:suspicious:Stuff that comes through mail is just as likely to be inspected as any luggage you bring back, if not more, and anything that is shipped has no exemptions, as opposed to trip length exemptions.

[Ronin]

Non-violent crimes like this should be given appropriate financial punishment. Jail costs the government and therefore, all of us, money. People in jail take up space, utilities, food, and hours of administrator and guard pay. I'd rather use that money to pay for additional border guard staff to carry out mandatory stop and search for anyone crossing the border that has previously been caught not declaring their goods.

So you people calling for jail are nuts. That benefits no one.

[Ronin]

i was almost pissing my pants when i didnt declare my second carton of smokes. she managed to do this wit $57000 of goods? well played university student.

You're usually okay if you declare SOMETHING. People that get caught are the people that say nothing to declare. If you declare something and don't look like a suspicious douche while doing it, then they'll probably wave you through.

[donjalapeno]

Nothing i hate more than rich bratty fobs.

Deport that stupid bitch.

[coolname]

Non-violent crimes like this should be given appropriate financial punishment. Jail costs the government and therefore, all of us, money. People in jail take up space, utilities, food, and hours of administrator and guard pay. I'd rather use that money to pay for additional border guard staff to carry out mandatory stop and search for anyone crossing the border that has previously been caught not declaring their goods.

So you people calling for jail are nuts. That benefits no one.

ya jail is a stupid idea, but just giving her a fine isnt going to do anything either because she will just swipe her dads credit card and be done with it. They should give her the fine, but also make her do community service or something as well.

[ProBoostin]

For everyone asking is she's a citizen, the answer is NO. She wouldn't need a student visa if she was a citizen and she's not an immigrant because she's not living here permanently. Had many friends that had to get visas to go to school in the states, it's no different for Canada.

[Mr.HappySilp]

I just remember this I though as long as she keep the recpiet when she goes back to China I though she can claim the tax back? So why try to hide it?

[will068]

ya jail is a stupid idea, but just giving her a fine isnt going to do anything either because she will just swipe her dads credit card and be done with it. They should give her the fine, but also make her do community service or something as well.


Perhaps the fine should be even bigger. The higher the cost of goods, the fine/duties/tax percentage. Good enough for me. Like Ronin said, our government gets more international money from these wealthy foreign nationals.

[Ronin]

ya jail is a stupid idea, but just giving her a fine isnt going to do anything either because she will just swipe her dads credit card and be done with it. They should give her the fine, but also make her do community service or something as well.

Why? If they're done with it then you've prevented the crime from happening again, which is the point of punishment by law in the first place. If they aren't done, THEN BLING BLING.

[Lomac]

wait, if she's not a canadian citizen why is she subject to canadian tax laws?

:facepalm:

The same reason why we are subjected to the various USA states tax laws when we go shopping or win a haul at a casino or something. We pay the taxes there, but when we get back, we can then file a claim to be compensated. Depending on what it is, of course.

[tiger_handheld]

maybe we need to write the traveller declaration cards in mandarin / cantonese


:heckno:

[jackmeister]

maybe we need to write the traveller declaration cards in mandarin / cantonese


:heckno:

I think the machine can select chinese for language now

[J-Chow]

If you use the Automated Border Clearance machines at YVR (for Permanent Residents and Canadian Citizens), they have multiple languages you can choose, one of which includes chinese. If you don't choose to use those machines and go to a booth (typically for non-residents), and you don't speak english, the officer will direct you to the interpretation booth. So there's no legit reason to play the "I don't speak english" card if you get caught and get away with it.

[Noran]

Title should be "Rich foreign student fined for being a cheap bitch".


Just to spice things up.