[PeanutButter]

Can't embed the audio, but go to the link if you want to hear it.

Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games ... Including Magic Johnson | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-clippers-owner-black-people-racist-audio-magic-johnson/)

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Now am I the only one on the entire interwebs that doesn't think this guy is racist? To me it just seems like he is a weak man who has friends who are racists and they are the ones making fun of him because his girlfriend is a minority and takes pictures with minorities? Therefore, he is embarrassed because all of his friends are badgering him about it.

He clearly stated he has no problems with minorities and he doesn't care if she hangs out with minorities, he just doesn't want her to post pictures of her with them because it seems like his friends are heckling him about it.

Like he said, he's from a different era and the people he associates with have that mindset of that era. To me, he seems like those caucasians in the south who protect minorities, but don't want their friends to know.

That's just me though. Thoughts?

[jeedee]

they are the ones making fun of him because his girlfriend is a minority and takes pictures with minorities? Therefore, he is embarrassed because all of his friends are badgering him about it.


lolwut

the guy is a grown ass 81 fucking years old man and cares about his friends "making fun of him"? What is he? fucking 8?

He's just a racist who got recorded, simple as that.

[MindBomber]

Yes, you're the one person on the internet that's clueless enough to not see that he's racist.

His 'girlfriend' is a hooker.

He's not "weak," he's worth $2 billion.

His friends opinion isn't an excuse, if that's the reason (it's not).

[Sir_Loin]

A Brief History of Donald Sterling's Alleged Racism | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2042877-a-brief-history-of-donald-sterlings-alleged-racism)

"Housing Discrimination" against African Americans and Hispanics payed 2 million.

[Special K]

Who cares?

His girlfriend must have gotten not enough money so she decided to fuck up his business by recording his racial comments. Blame Sterling for trusting his girlfriend.

Snoop Dogg's Message to Donald Sterling on Instagram | Complex (http://www.complexmag.ca/sports/2014/04/snoop-dogg-message-donald-sterling)
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[spideyv2]

lmfao @ the OP reaching so hard to justify Sterling's racism

ITT: We learn that OP doesn't like minorities, either.

[Ronin]

"I'm not racist but I don't want you bringing black people to Clippers games."

Yep, not racist at all.

[PeanutButter]

ODoes racism have degrees to it then?
Because wouldn't a racist not want her to have any association with minorities at all?
He clearly states, that he knows and likes minorities, said she could house them, feed them, even f*ck them. His only request is she not post pictures on instagram with them.
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[PeanutButter]

"I'm not racist but I don't want you bringing black people to Clippers games."

Yep, not racist at all.

I'm thinking he said this because his friends might be at the games. It just seems he just cares more about what his friends think. That seems like that is his main issue, what his friends think of him.
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[StylinRed]

his gf's black his team is black but he hates black people...but he's not racist he's a businessman


sounds like a modern day plantation slave owner who slept with his prisoners

[Ronin]

ODoes racism have degrees to it then?
Because wouldn't a racist not want her to have any association with minorities at all?
He clearly states, that he knows and likes minorities, said she could house them, feed them, even f*ck them. His only request is she not post pictures on instagram with them.
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A racist treats someone different from them differently. Maybe there are degrees of racism but it doesn't change the fact that he's a big fat racist.

Maybe he has racist friends but someone that isn't a racist would probably tell his friends they can go fuck themselves.

[Ch28]

Now am I the only one on the entire interwebs that doesn't think this guy is racist? To me it just seems like he is a weak man who has friends who are racists and they are the ones making fun of him because his girlfriend is a minority and takes pictures with minorities? Therefore, he is embarrassed because all of his friends are badgering him about it.

He clearly stated he has no problems with minorities and he doesn't care if she hangs out with minorities, he just doesn't want her to post pictures of her with them because it seems like his friends are heckling him about it.

Like he said, he's from a different era and the people he associates with have that mindset of that era. To me, he seems like those caucasians in the south who protect minorities, but don't want their friends to know.

That's just me though. Thoughts?

http://i.imgur.com/CQFxpHm.gif

[4444]

My god, why doesn't he just keep his pie hole shut.

All his players are black, his whore slapper is mixed black/Hispanic (and is a good digger), wtf is up with this guy

I can't tell u what to think. But we can all tell him to keep his opinions to himself as no one wants to hear this drivel

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

am i the only one that gets what he's saying.

he's saying theoretically there's nothing wrong with minorities. but in real world applications, people act certain ways and perceive and stereotype people by the race they are. and a man of his reputation and stature, a lot of business is by reputation. and if he feels the people he works with will make his life harder because of those "broadcasts" then he will likely not want those kind of broadcasts... well, broadcasted. it hurts his reputation regardless of whether he cares or not. and in his business reputation matters.

its just the reality of things.
there's two extremes of image and caring about what other people think... one is a slight insecurity, but you're only insecure because you're able to perceive the negative effects of how others perceive you. and if you care about your image, then obviously it matters. regardless of whether you feel racist or not.

imagine if you were working on wall street. you can imagine the people u work with. and then your gf who's widely known as your gf starts bringing her gay friends to your parties and taking pics with gays. even if you're not anti homo, you know your work is gonna give you a hard time about it. so naturally you'd tell your gf to stop making your life harder. those things don't need to be "broadcasted". there's gonna be a reaction.

yes, you shouldn't care. but the real world doesn't work like that. there is always a reaction.

if you care about your career, you have to play by the rules of that career (which is made up of what other people in that field think). reputation and imagery amongst your field of work is everything if that is your passion.

all it is, is keeping the balance of security amongst the group you're associated with.


edit: oops, peanutbutter pretty much has the same perspective i do. when a person has a hyper sensitivity of detecting the balance and comfort of others (even if it's an insecurity of others), you just can't help but feel bad if you upset the balance. that's all it is. you don't wanna be the party pooper. and you recognize that even though these other people have insecurities, that's just their value system and the way they live their life. and you have no right to be righteous and say that they are absolutely WRONG. it's just another way of life. it's better to just keep the balance and not bring trouble to your own life. especially when no one is getting physically harmed.

[4444]

am i the only one that gets what he's saying.

he's saying theoretically there's nothing wrong with minorities. but in real world applications, people act certain ways and perceive and stereotype people by the race they are. and a man of his reputation and stature, a lot of business is by reputation. and if he feels the people he works with will make his life harder because of those "broadcasts" then he will likely not want those kind of broadcasts... well, broadcasted. it hurts his reputation regardless of whether he cares or not. and in his business reputation matters.

its just the reality of things.
there's two extremes of image and caring about what other people think... one is a slight insecurity, but you're only insecure because you're able to perceive the negative effects of how others perceive you. and if you care about your image, then obviously it matters. regardless of whether you feel racist or not.

yes, you shouldn't care. but the real world doesn't work like that. there is always a reaction.
correct me if i'm wrong, but he's bitching about pics of his gold digger gf posting pics of her with black people, he's not involved in these pics other than her association with him

given what she is, i think he's already killed his image, he's 81, she's a fruit loop fake titted gold digging 20 or 30 something year old... the whole situation is a nasty one with nasty people involved.

rich or not, this guy is disgusting

he also has a history of racist remarks, these comments have not shocked those in so. cal., more of just a facepalm 'not again' moment

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

everyone has felt what he has felt man...

another example is if you're a jock and all your friends are jocks and you start bringing and hanging out with philosophers all the time, and you didn't give a fuck of what other ppl thought... you're only gonna push yourself further away from your group.

so it just comes down to value system. if you value the group your with, or if you value your own value systems more (in some ways more egotistical cuz you care for what you feel over the group).

the vice versa can be said... if you were a geek and all your friends were geeks, and then suddenly you start hanging with hardcore G's. your group is gonna slowly push you out.

and from my own research, about 50% of the population care more about the group, and 50% care more about their own value system. so really who's right? there is no absolute objective cosmic "right". it's just a method of evolution. no one is right or wrong. it's just how you perceive the situation.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

correct me if i'm wrong, but he's bitching about pics of his gold digger gf posting pics of her with black people, he's not involved in these pics other than her association with him

guilty by association. you are who your crew is. doesn't matter how you feel. the public will always perceive it that way.

this is where politicians and governments are pro. they understand this. this is the basis of deception of manipulation. image and how public perceives you is everything.

this is just an example of politics. on the surface it's nice and clean. but if you found out what they were talking about and planning in their meetings, it would sound exactly what this guy is saying. it would all be about navigating and manipulation and worrying about public perception and trying to display other things that you're not, to gain ground and favour.

it's just a fucking game of life some people live by man.

all it is, is the ability to be compassionate, but you're hyper sensitive to the group you're part of, and your value systems dictate that you value group thought, and to not upset the balance. but you yourself don't wanna be ostracised, so you try control it by manipulation.

but if you're hyper sensitive to group thought, you're also hyper sensitive to political correctness on a global standard, that's why you TRY to keep it to yourself. cuz you know you're trying to play both sides. appear as cool guy to your group, and to the world, but the values conflict.

i'm not justifying what he has said at face value... i am just explaining the mechanics of his perception (which 50% of the populations shares)

[GLOW]

-- "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games." (5:15)

Read more: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games ... Including Magic Johnson | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-clippers-owner-black-people-racist-audio-magic-johnson/#ixzz305zlHxpt)

is his gf sleeping with guys on the side and bringing them to games or something?

[4444]

guilty by association. you are who your crew is. doesn't matter how you feel. the public will always perceive it that way.

this is where politicians and governments are pro. they understand this. this is the basis of deception of manipulation. image and how public perceives you is everything.

this is just an example of politics. on the surface it's nice and clean. but if you found out what they were talking about and planning in their meetings, it would sound exactly what this guy is saying. it would all be about navigating and manipulation and worrying about public perception and trying to display other things that you're not, to gain ground and favour.

it's just a fucking game of life some people live by man.

all it is, is the ability to be compassionate, but you're hyper sensitive to the group you're part of, and your value systems dictate that you value group thought, and to not upset the balance. but you yourself don't wanna be ostracised, so you try control it by manipulation.

but if you're hyper sensitive to group thought, you're also hyper sensitive to political correctness on a global standard, that's why you TRY to keep it to yourself. cuz you know you're trying to play both sides. appear as cool guy to your group, and to the world, but the values conflict.

i'm not justifying what he has said at face value... i am just explaining the mechanics of his perception (which 50% of the populations shares)
I think ur taking too much from this. The fundamental piece of information is that is 50 yr younger gf is half black, half Hispanic (or something like that) - he's worried about his "crew" by association? I think the damage to his credentials is already done.

[Verdasco]

lol.... his team is fucked post playoffs, no one is going to stay. Snoop dogs response LOL

[kkttsang]

lol.... his team is fucked post playoffs, no one is going to stay. Snoop dogs response LOL

Except for jj redick

[kkthind]

maybe Paula Dean will stay and watch the game :badpokerface:
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[Special K]

lol.... his team is fucked post playoffs, no one is going to stay. Snoop dogs response LOL

Blake Griffin is half white half black though... :suspicious:
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[Verdasco]

Blake Griffin is half white half black though... :suspicious:
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lol what does him being half white half black have to do with anything? im chinese and im mad as fuck atm

[van_city23]

lol.... his team is fucked post playoffs, no one is going to stay. Snoop dogs response LOL

When it's all said and done, I bet you players will be more concerned with whether or not their cheques cash...

[originalhypa]

. Snoop dogs response LOL

Snoop comments about a racist's ignorance by dropping f bombs and calling him white bread.

Wtf?
Is that okay? Or just more ignorance?

[StylinRed]

just listened to the whole thing...really odd, baiting, conversation that we didn't get the beginning of

really it almost sounds like she started using skin tone to describe characters in their conversation and he rolled with it

and ultimately he was just pissed off that she was being a whore on instagram

[vafanculo]

Snoop comments about a racist's ignorance by dropping f bombs and calling him white bread.

Wtf?
Is that okay? Or just more ignorance?
Its OK cause he's black
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[Verdasco]

just listened to the whole thing...really odd, baiting, conversation that we didn't get the beginning of

really it almost sounds like she started using skin tone to describe characters in their conversation and he rolled with it

and ultimately he was just pissed off that she was being a whore on instagram

does your definition of being a whore include taking nice graceful pictures of black folks in public events? If so, you have a problem

[Ron_Swanson]

does your definition of being a whore include taking nice graceful pictures of black folks in public events? If so, you have a problem

I have no idea about her instagram photos, but from what I read, those would be the guys she's banged and bringing them to the Clippers games.

[PeanutButter]

Well at least I know there are a couple members that see this situation a little differently than the public.

I just feel a lot of people are judging the situation without forming their own opinion based on the evidence and they are only mirroring what other people have said. I bet you snoop didn't even listen to the entire audio clip before he made his judgement.

I'm not saying Sterling is not a racist, i'm just saying based on the audio clip, it doesn't seem to be as black and white as everyone in the public is making it out to be (pun somewhat intended).

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Just based on the audio clip, it seems like the girlfriend took a picture with Magic Johnson and posted it to Instagram and that is one of the pictures Sterling was referring to. In regards to the gf being a "whore", I'm not sure about the other pictures as I haven't done any more research on the topic.

[bballguy]

lol, going to the game on Tuesday....should be interesting...

[Verdasco]

^ LOL FUCKING JELLY :lawl:

[Sunfighter]

I have been a HUGE NBA fan for more than 20 years.... during that ENTIRE period it has always been understand that Donald Sterling is a flagrant racist. ALWAYS. None of this is a surprise. It's just a surprise it took THIS to prompt action from the league office.

I get the sense that the women on the tape was baiting him and had been coached by somebody with how to do it to achieve certain reactions... Sterling should have been smarter than to take it but frankly I am glad he did because maybe now the league can finally rid themselves of this clown.

NBA-ownership is not a club he is qualified to be a part of.

[Manic!]

I have no idea about her instagram photos, but from what I read, those would be the guys she's banged and bringing them to the Clippers games.

She's not banging Magic Johnson.

[multicartual]

The best part is that she can fuck black guys, just not post instagrams with them

[Ron_Swanson]

She's not banging Magic Johnson.

I didn't say she was

[Nocardia]

After listening to the actual conversation that was recorded (who records conversations unless she is goating him) I understand:
1. she sleeps around with people
2. he doesn't want her broadcasting it or bringing those she has sex with to the games
3. sound like she usually sleeps with black people so he is just making a general statement about people she sleeps with (until the end about magic johnson)

At first, with all this media attention and snoop posting, I was all on that bandwagon of this guy is a crazy, rich, white racist guy (I'm white).

Now hearing the conversation, that bitch twists the conversation and continually makes it about skin color when it appears to be about her not bringing people she has sex with to games and not posting about it on instagram or publicizing it.
I am not saying he isn't racist (especially reading about his rental issues) but I am thinking this is wayyyy blown out of proportion.

[Ludepower]

Everyone has their own personal beliefs and opinion...as long as you keep it private then I have no problems with it.

In this case...for the sake of the PR disaster...NBA should get rid of him.

[Special K]

Isn't Magic HIV+.....?

If she sleeps with Magic and he is HIV+ Sterling would have a legit reason to be concerned.
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[Sunfighter]

She isn't sleeping with him.

Medically, Magic's HIV is effectively "dormant..." he still takes a heavy cocktail of drugs everyday to keep the disease hammered into a coma-type state.

[Manic!]

Magic is also married.

[sekin67835]

When did being married stop a man from sleeping with another woman :troll:
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[multicartual]

Manufactured controversy to keep people distracted

[GLOW]

lol, going to the game on Tuesday....should be interesting...

Too bad he won't be at that game or else you could have trolled if your seats were close enough
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[Manic!]

When did being married stop a man from sleeping with another woman :troll:
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When his wife found out he had HIV and still stayed with him.

[MindBomber]

Snoop comments about a racist's ignorance by dropping f bombs and calling him white bread.

Wtf?
Is that okay? Or just more ignorance?

Honestly, do the 'racial slurs,' "white bread," or "cracker," truly hurt a white person?

Maybe, but more often no.

They don't hurt because they aren't routed in an era of oppression, like the n word for people of African descent, the c word for people of Asian descent, the c word for people of Native descent, etc. The route in oppression is the source of racial slurs power, and white people have never really experienced oppression (for racial reasons). As a result, the more powerful racial slurs that exist for white people are pretty meh. I'd laugh if I were called "white bread."

Is it therefore okay to use these racial slurs against white people? In principle, no. But in practice, I don't know whether it matters.

[multicartual]

Is it therefore okay to use these racial slurs against white people? In principle, no. But in practice, I don't know whether it matters.


The Dark Enlightenment, by Nick Land | The Dark Enlightenment (http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/#part1)


It is always ok for a non-white person to be racist but if you're white and racist you are literally Hitler

[MindBomber]

The Dark Enlightenment, by Nick Land | The Dark Enlightenment (http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/#part1)


It is always ok for a non-white person to be racist but if you're white and racist you are literally Hitler

No way. Non-white people are not allowed to be racist.

The only time it's okay to be racist is if it's against your own race.

[Tegra_Devil]

The only time it's okay to be racist is if it's against your own race.

I hate white people and their hipster douchbag skinny jeans and fucked up combover haircuts...fuck white people....






Like that?

[quasi]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10848577/los-angeles-clippers-stage-silent-protest-donald-sterling-hide-team-logo

[bcrdukes]

No way. Non-white people are not allowed to be racist.

The only time it's okay to be racist is if it's against your own race.

Not true.

Remember, I was banned on Revscene for this.

[bloodmack]

Hipster isn't a race..

[Tegra_Devil]

Hipster isn't a race..

it should be, cause then I could perform a genocide.

[Drow]

donald's girl, what a bitch.

as if being a gold digging sloot isn't enough... you have to be a backstabbing, baiting, gold digging sloot

like what OP had said, i don't think hes really THAT racist....

i mean hes dating a half black half hispanic chick, if i was balling out of control i think i'd have a choice on what type of race to date... and if i was racist i definitely wouldn't date her candy ass

and fcking TMZ. The world would be a better place without that outlet for shit.

[Manic!]

Just found out Donald Sterling is still married and his wife was at the game. She also called him a raciest. Later they were seen together at a restaurant. Also V. Stiviano claims they are not dating and it's strictly professional.

[GLOW]

Also V. Stiviano claims they are not dating and it's strictly professional.

as in payment for professional services? :troll: :lawl:

[Special K]

donald's girl, what a bitch.

as if being a gold digging sloot isn't enough... you have to be a backstabbing, baiting, gold digging sloot

like what OP had said, i don't think hes really THAT racist....

i mean hes dating a half black half hispanic chick, if i was balling out of control i think i'd have a choice on what type of race to date... and if i was racist i definitely wouldn't date her candy ass

and fcking TMZ. The world would be a better place without that outlet for shit.

Exactly. It's all planned otherwise why would Staviano hire a lawyer? She wants to be protected from Sterling taking back all her "gifts".

The winner is probably GS now that the Clippers are mentally unstable.
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[7seven]

Well it looks like Sterling won't be getting his second :facepalm: lifetime achievement award from the NAACP as scheduled

https://twitter.com/NAACP/statuses/460428078913560578

[will068]

Exactly. It's all planned otherwise why would Staviano hire a lawyer? She wants to be protected from Sterling taking back all her "gifts".

The winner is probably GS now that the Clippers are mentally unstable.
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Agreed. Betting money on the Warriors to win the series.

[originalhypa]

Honestly, do the 'racial slurs,' "white bread," or "cracker," truly hurt a white person?

Maybe, but more often no.

They don't hurt because they aren't routed in an era of oppression, like the n word for people of African descent, the c word for people of Asian descent, the c word for people of Native descent, etc. The route in oppression is the source of racial slurs power, and white people have never really experienced oppression (for racial reasons). As a result, the more powerful racial slurs that exist for white people are pretty meh. I'd laugh if I were called "white bread."

Is it therefore okay to use these racial slurs against white people? In principle, no. But in practice, I don't know whether it matters.

It doesn't matter to me because I'm not directly tied to the issue. I'm not an NBA fan, nor do I care about the old bastard Billionaire with low self esteem.

I did however see hypocrisy that made me go "hmmmmm".

It's like the N word. It's the worst word in the world. You can never say that word or you will be branded "the n word guy". But I hear it on popular culture all the time.

I just don't get it.



She wants to be protected from Sterling taking back all her "gifts".

Man, those gifts.....

A Ferrari, TWO Bentleys and a $1.4MILLION apartment

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/27/article-0-1D643F8600000578-636_634x632.jpg


dayammmm!

:suspicious:

[freakshow]

When we're all 81, and the world has changed 10x more than it changed over Stirling's 80 years, you can be sure that our private conversations will also sound like some sort of ignorant gibberish

[Special K]

Sponsors pull support from Clips after alleged Sterling remarks (http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24543526/carmax-pulls-sponsorship-deal-with-clippers-after-alleged-sterling-comments)

Welp good luck to her safety as this is hitting a lot of people's bottom line. However, she probably landed on another sugar daddy.

Wealthy people games.
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[7seven]

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/04/28/0428-v-stipiano-visor-splash-3.jpg

hahaha this broad has pulled a page out of the Clai playbook with the face visor

[will068]

It doesn't matter to me because I'm not directly tied to the issue. I'm not an NBA fan, nor do I care about the old bastard Billionaire with low self esteem.

I did however see hypocrisy that made me go "hmmmmm".

It's like the N word. It's the worst word in the world. You can never say that word or you will be branded "the n word guy". But I hear it on popular culture all the time.

I just don't get it.



Unless its directed against Jews, everyone will just ignore it if it is an attack against the white delegation...

[Vansterdam]

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10155822_851447984883727_3081935357734775009_n.jpg

[flawless]

^LOL

[originalhypa]

Unless its directed against Jews, everyone will just ignore it if it is an attack against the white delegation...

Please don't quote me with your anti semitism.

Kthxbye.

[MindBomber]

Not true.

Remember, I was banned on Revscene for this.

True. But, you were later unbanned by !SG because you were racist against your own race. I think that ultimately supports my point.

Also, consider Michael Richards' (Cosmo Kramer) n word riddled comedy routine that created major controversy.

In comparison, Chris Rock's n word riddled comedy routines are totally cool.

The difference, of course, is Richards' is white dude and Rock is an african-american guy.

[7seven]

Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been suspended for life — he cannot be involved in operations with the team or the league nor attend games — plus has been fined $2.5 million by the league, NBA Commissioner Adam Silver announced Tuesday.

Clippers owner Donald Sterling suspended for life, fined $2.5 million | ProBasketballTalk (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/29/clippers-owner-donald-sterling-suspended-for-life-fined-2-5-million/)

Well they banned him for life, everyone expects this to be fought in court now if it will hold up.

[murd0c]

banned for life and a fine of 2.5mill.... Damn right's the NBA got this one right, awesome to hear he will be gone and I hope Magic buys them now!!

[Spoon]

Clippers owner Sterling banned for life, fined $2.5M (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101625081)

Gets screwed over by a prostitute. :awwyeah:

[freakshow]

The NBA better ban every single owner/player/coach/manager that makes a racist comment in the future.

[XplicitLuder]

For someone so rich and smart in that sense.. Really? You don't want black ppl to come to your games? Specially when this sport is quite dominant with African-Americans makes no sense lol you're in the wrong sport then..
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[originalhypa]

Banned for life.
Well played by Silver and the NBA.


True. But, you were later unbanned by !SG because you were racist against your own race. I think that ultimately supports my point.

Que what?!
Because SG overturned a long time member's ban, at a time when it was shown that he was mentally unstable, ultimately supports your point?

I didn't know the NAACP and the Human Rights coalition had teamed up with Revscene on the subject.

:facepalm:


Also, consider Michael Richards' (Cosmo Kramer) n word riddled comedy routine that created major controversy.

In comparison, Chris Rock's n word riddled comedy routines are totally cool.

The difference, of course, is Richards' is white dude and Rock is an african-american guy.

And in other news, water is wet.
Dafuq does this have to do with the LA Clippers?

The old prick didn't use the N word, nor was he in public. But he showed his true colors (no pun intended) in a community that is very sensitive to that sort of thing, and for good reason. There is a problem with racism in America, and he is the new face of that racism.

[Special K]

Lawyers win at the end.

Will all the sponsors come back to LAC then?
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[dvst8]

I can't see how the NBA can fine him 2.5 million for his personal opinions. Sounds like a cash grab.

[pastarocket]

Kudos to commissioner Silver bringing the hammer down on Sterling.

Nobody, even a billionaire, should be excused for saying those hurtful words about African Americans or any visible minority.


C'mon Aquilini, buy the Clippers and move them to Vancouver. Lowball Sterling!
Bring back the NBA to our city! :accepted:

[bing]

For someone so rich and smart in that sense.. Really? You don't want black ppl to come to your games? Specially when this sport is quite dominant with African-Americans makes no sense lol you're in the wrong sport then..
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Another person who obviously did not listen to the audio clip. He's not telling black people not to attend his games; he doesn't want his girlfriend posting photos of herself on instagram with black guys or bringing them to the game with her.

[freakshow]

Not that I don't agree with the ban, but on what grounds can they fine someone 2.5M for their personal opinion?

There must be a clause in the NBA Owners contract that addresses this?
Also, in another thread, we just covered that private conversations in the states can't be recorded (or at least are inadmissible in court)..

[Gucci Mane]

i honestly think that the man just chose the wrong words at that time. if he had said something along the lines of "dont bring your fucking hood rat friends to my basketball games" this whole situation wouldn't have blown up in his face. i dont know about you guys, but if i was a billionare i sure as fuck would not want to hang around hood rats either..

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

the general masses.. the public, just want to throw tomatoes at someone.

[meme405]

Not that I don't agree with the ban, but on what grounds can they fine someone 2.5M for their personal opinion?

There must be a clause in the NBA Owners contract that addresses this?
Also, in another thread, we just covered that private conversations in the states can't be recorded (or at least are inadmissible in court)..

Owners are Liable for their actions to all other owners and the NBA. You are acting as an agent of the other owners and a representative of the league.

The actions of Sterling could directly affect other owners and the leagues reputation. So you are damn right they will drop the hammer on his ass or anyone else if they start saying stupid shit that could hurt ratings or drop attendance.

Even if the above wasnt the case (which it is), if I were the judge on the case I would stand behind the NBA just on the basis that Sterling is a Racist dickhead.

I hope they force a sale, I mean what good is an owner who is Banned for life, from almost anything NBA related?

[Manic!]

I can't see how the NBA can fine him 2.5 million for his personal opinions. Sounds like a cash grab.

Because the Clippers are a franchise. When you buy a franchise you sign a contract that has rules of conduct.


If the NBA did not fine him and kick him out the players would have gone on strike. That's According to former NBA player/Player rep/mayor of Sacramento Kevin Johnson. Steve Nash was also at the same press conference and spoke.

[shawnly1000]

We Are One | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS (http://www.nba.com/clippers/one)

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/535ff2a569beddd8186d5795-1200-800/screen%20shot%202014-04-29%20at%202.40.43%20pm.png

[Tapioca]

Even if you see the ban as an attack on "free speech", in the end, this decision was as much about money as it was about values. Money always talks in the end.

I'm sure the NBA's lawyers have every reason to believe they can win if Sterling takes the league to court.
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[XplicitLuder]

Another person who obviously did not listen to the audio clip. He's not telling black people not to attend his games; he doesn't want his girlfriend posting photos of herself on instagram with black guys or bringing them to the game with her.

You're correct I haven't. I went with what I read on the first page where it says " and do not bring them to my game " to me I figured he didn't want black ppl in general. If he is referring to , for example, black people who are , as someone else said, a hood rat (ie. Sketchy friends of the gf) then okay. In that case he just used the wrong words to express his feelings.
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[meme405]

I'm sure the NBA's lawyers have every reason to believe they can win if Sterling takes the league to court.
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It would be easy for them to win, its not hard to believe the league would lose 2.5 million if it appeared that they condoned racism or didn't discipline a representative of the league who openly said such racist remarks. Especially racism towards african americans which account for a large number of both players in the league and the fans who watch the sport.

[PiuYi]

C'mon Aquilini, buy the Clippers and move them to Vancouver. Lowball Sterling!
Bring back the NBA to our city! :accepted:

people have already started approaching the NBA about buying the team, and aquilini does not have deep enough pockets :fuckthatshit:

[quasi]

Where's Chucky, clearly Magic set him up so he can buy the team it's all part of the New World Order. :troll:

[Harvey Specter]

Funny how Magic was the person who was singled out in the tapes and now he's the frontrunner to buy the Clippers.

And I'm glad this guy has been ousted, his comments went beyond "free of speech". He was protected by David Stern and others but eventually your hate gets exposed and shit hits the fan. He's a known racist and bigot who has a long history of hurting and destroying vulnerable people in our society like poor minorities by using his power and wealth. The largest discrimination settlement in LA history belongs to this guy and the way he treated people was unimaginable.

[mikemhg]

To be honest, I don't really know why people are surprised by this racist fuck. This kind of talk and mindset is EXTREMELY common in high levels of government, banks, and corporations. It's an old white boys club, if you think this Sterling asshole is one of the few, you're grossly mistaken. Racism isn't gone, far from it. What bothers me the most is that these are the kind of people we have running our societies on the highest levels, these old archaic racist nitwits. My dream is that one day these guys will die off, and hopefully the younger generations will move into positions of power without having the racist dogmas from the past.

Maybe I'm thinking a little too pie in the sky though.

[elwell]

people have already started approaching the NBA about buying the team, and aquilini does not have deep enough pockets :fuckthatshit:

They should return those condos that they bought in the olympic village lol

[pastarocket]

.





Man, those gifts.....



dayammmm!

:suspicious:[/QUOTE]


This V. Stiviano girl is a gold digger for sure:

$1.8 million duplex
A Ferrari
Two Bentleys
A Range Rover

:fuckthatshit:

Sterling's wife is suing this girl

Sterling Lawsuit Against Stiviano -- NYMag (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/sterling-lawsuit-against-stiviano.html)

[wreck]

imo if you are 75+ years old you get a pass on racism and religion.

especially if you were brought up from the south.

[Tone Loc]

True. But, you were later unbanned by !SG because you were racist against your own race. I think that ultimately supports my point.

Also, consider Michael Richards' (Cosmo Kramer) n word riddled comedy routine that created major controversy.

In comparison, Chris Rock's n word riddled comedy routines are totally cool.

The difference, of course, is Richards' is white dude and Rock is an african-american guy.

IMO it's less "bad" to be racist towards your own race... lets be real here, Chris Rock's whole "Black people vs. N***ers" comedy bit - while hilarious - would be completely unacceptable from ANY race, not just whites.

In the same way, being Filipino when I'm with my friends I make jokes all the time about Filipino people being nannies, working at McDonalds, housekeeping, etc... whereas I would be somewhat offended if some random person of another race started spouting off the same stuff in front of me. IMO being part of a racial group, whatever it is, gives you some license to notice stereotypes and poke fun at them. It's like how the "What White People Like" website is run by a white guy... but would likely be seen as offensive if, say, a Black person was running it.

[red_2]

people have already started approaching the NBA about buying the team, and aquilini does not have deep enough pockets :fuckthatshit:

I heard on the news that when Sterling bought the team back in the 80's it was $12 million. It easily worth at least 50 times that amount now...

[LUUUUUUUU]

http://i.imgur.com/6oyZy7x.jpg

[punkwax]

C'mon Aquilini, buy the Clippers and move them to Vancouver. Lowball Sterling!
Bring back the NBA to our city! :accepted:

Vancouver Clippers :troll:

http://www.medicalmarijuanaco.net/images/clone003.jpg

[KuSouL]

I'm gonna just leave this here NBA Legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Rips BOTH SIDES in Donald Sterling ?Scandal? | Top Right News (http://toprightnews.com/?p=2777)

TL : DR

One past incident, Sterling fined $3 million because he refused to house blacks cause he felt they "smell and attract vermin". (by far a more disgusting comment than the one this time)

“So, if we’re all going to be outraged,” the former NBA star wrapped up, “let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ and ‘Dancing with the Stars.’”

[taeyoung92]

mayweather talking about owning the clippers/donald sterling

FLOYD MAYWEATHER SAYS HE WANTS TO BUY THE LA CLIPPERS; COMMENTS ON DONALD STERLING - YouTube

[F3]

I heard on the news that when Sterling bought the team back in the 80's it was $12 million. It easily worth at least 50 times that amount now...

actually it's closer to 100x as people are reporting that the market value of the team is around 1 billion.

[XplicitLuder]

forbes said its about half a bill. apparently a team like the lakers is in the 1 bill range.

[StylinRed]

just realize Sterlings real surname is Tokowitz and he's Jewish!

I'm surprised CiC hasn't chimed in :)

[F3]

forbes said its about half a bill. apparently a team like the lakers is in the 1 bill range.

Forbes estimate and what people are willing to pay are 2 totally different things. How are the clips only worth half a bill when the bucks, who are the worst team in the NBA, were just sold for $550 mil?

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/461209411176767488

[Tegra_Devil]

clippers were 12.5 mill back in the day, and currently 575 mill now, as per tsn

[elwell]

Pdiddy and rick ross are looking into buying the team too, bidding war gonna bring the price up real high near the bill

[iwantaskyline]

Forbes estimate and what people are willing to pay are 2 totally different things. How are the clips only worth half a bill when the bucks, who are the worst team in the NBA, were just sold for $550 mil?

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/461209411176767488

Exactly..Just look at how much the Dodgers sold for.

[MindBomber]

Donald Sterling's reaction to the NBA's decision.

http://s1.postimg.org/6kw6zhokf/GCJq4_Rw.png

[CharlesInCharge]

just realize Sterlings real surname is Tokowitz and he's Jewish!

I'm surprised CiC hasn't chimed in :)
No discussion on what he said about black Jews?
You Go To Israel, The Black Jews Are Treated Like Dogs Black Jews Are Less Than White Jews I Give - YouTube

Imagine basketball superstars, who are followed globally, denounce Isreal too for its treatment of blacks... Sterling said they're treated like dogs, 150%! Why? because isreal secretly sterilized blacks and it probably still does. It only immigrated Africans to that state for public relation reasons showing its multicultural.
The US sends over a million dollars of tax payer money to Isreal everyday.

FORCED STERILIZATION ON BLACK ETHIOPIAN JEWS - RT news
_youtube.com/watch?v=fZFTvvFpKUQ

The negative Isreali press implications are huge on this... Im thinking this is why U.S. secretary Kerry dropped the apartheid remark against Isreal a few days ago for damage control.

[boostfever]

Guess Obama is not invited either...

http://i.imgur.com/VzjHdiM.jpg

[GLOW]

mayweather talking about owning the clippers/donald sterling

FLOYD MAYWEATHER SAYS HE WANTS TO BUY THE LA CLIPPERS; COMMENTS ON DONALD STERLING - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdMVqXvGHs)

Man that would be ironic if he bought the team, considering his rants about pac and lin

[Hondaracer]

So funny there's such an uproar over racism etc and all this shit about it being a learned trait etc

I'm sorry but when 3/4 of your league running around the floor yelling nigga this and nigga that and posting pictures on Instagram with all the hood rats and gang related looking types sterling is talking about Racism isn't ending with this the NBA if anything just perpetuates it hardcore.
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[van_city23]

posting pictures on Instagram with all the hood rats and gang related looking types sterling is talking about Racism isn't ending with this the NBA if anything just perpetuates it hardcore.
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C'mon now, it's not only blacks that have gang related people, i'm sure white people do too. Trailor trash is just as bad as hood rats?

But i agree with the won't end racism point. It's going to be interesting to see how he handles comments made on and off the court by players. I think it just re-inforces that n word is okay if blacks say it more than anything.

[pastarocket]

We got a big baller who really wants to buy the Clippers. David Geffen reportedly offered $700 million to Sterling to buy the team. Sterling refused to sell the franchise.

Forbes magazine estimates the team's value at $575 million. Hmmm, he bought it in 1981 for $12 million.

If Sterling sells the team, he's making a tonne of money. -more money for those gold digging ho's. :toot:

David Geffen: I Would Very Much Like To Buy The Clippers - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2014/04/29/david-geffen-i-would-very-much-like-to-buy-the-clippers/)

[Hondaracer]

Everyone perpetuates their own stereotypes but I'm sorry, in the public eye, specifically in pro sports no one is their own worst enemy worse than the black athlete

I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying that, it's well documented. None of this makes what sterling said acceptable but IMO there will never be a day where racism doesn't exist because most of the time the people who are always crying racism segregate themselves by their actions and the way they conduct themselves
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[Great68]

I haven't been following this story other than hearing the penalties levied against this guy.

I'm curious how a sports organization has the legal ability to charge monetary penalties (fines) against a person?

Like, I understand that to be granted membership in an organization like the NBA that there are a set of rules to abide by so I understand they can rescinde his membership, maybe force him to sell the team but how can they legally charge him a personal fine of 2.5mil? Making racist comments is not illegal as far as I know in the USA...

[StylinRed]

No discussion on what he said about black Jews?
You Go To Israel, The Black Jews Are Treated Like Dogs Black Jews Are Less Than White Jews I Give - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_6gt2Snq4)

Imagine basketball superstars, who are followed globally, denounce Isreal too for its treatment of blacks... Sterling said they're treated like dogs, 150%! Why? because isreal secretly sterilized blacks and it probably still does. It only immigrated Africans to that state for public relation reasons showing its multicultural.
The US sends over a million dollars of tax payer money to Isreal everyday.

FORCED STERILIZATION ON BLACK ETHIOPIAN JEWS - RT news
_youtube.com/watch?v=fZFTvvFpKUQ

The negative Isreali press implications are huge on this... Im thinking this is why U.S. secretary Kerry dropped the apartheid remark against Isreal a few days ago for damage control.


I heard about this clip but never heard it when listening to the TMZ 9min clip

[pastarocket]

I haven't been following this story other than hearing the penalties levied against this guy.

I'm curious how a sports organization has the legal ability to charge monetary penalties (fines) against a person?

Like, I understand that to be granted membership in an organization like the NBA that there are a set of rules to abide by so I understand they can rescinde his membership, maybe force him to sell the team but how can they legally charge him a personal fine of 2.5mil? Making racist comments is not illegal as far as I know in the USA...

Commissioner Silver said that under the NBA constitution, basically the league's legal document for operation, any owner can be fined up the maximum of $2.5 million for violating rules of conduct.

Every NBA owner is a franchisee when they buy a team. -sort of like a person buying a Subway franchise but with much more money involved in the purchase of an NBA team. As an NBA owner, you agree to abide by rules of conduct in order to "represent' the NBA product as an owner, a franchisee. Owners are buying an NBA franchise subject to league conditions, one of which may be personal conduct rules under the NBA constitution.

[MarkyMark]

Who knows maybe they can't fine him, I'm sure he'll take it to court. But one thing we know is nothing screams the NBA loves black people more than banning him and fining the league maximum.
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[originalhypa]

Making racist comments is not illegal as far as I know in the USA...

True.
But I don't think this is a matter of law. It's a matter of business, and a business owner that is found to be speaking poorly of his customer base is going to be unprofitable. It's all about money, and that's why the NBA hit him so hard, and so fast.

Keep in mind that Donald Silver is new at his commissioner's position. This was his first test, and a challenging one at that. He's now going against one of the old boys, as I'm sure Sterling isn't the only Billionaire owner who feels this way.

[pastarocket]

Wow, it sounds like every celebrity or person associated with the film and entertainment industry wants to buy the Clippers.

Magic Johnson, Diddy, Floyd Mayweather, Dr. Dre, etc.


RS group buy of the Clippers? :whistle:

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

we're also perpetuating it by talking about it... when in reality...

it's just some fucking childs game, owned and played by adults... where the whole system is setup so the owners and players benefit big time, and the poor throw their money away, and IDOLIZE people who should have no respect to begin with...

no one will even fucking care about this in a few months.

that chick looks like a tranny plastic faced ho. the only thing i'm disappointed about is, the billionaire's taste in women. that's about it.

the whole racism thing is blown totally out of proportions and the hypocrites (not just the players, but the people in general) are, like hondaracer said "...are always crying racism segregate themselves by their actions and the way they conduct themselves"

[underscore]

Everyone perpetuates their own stereotypes but I'm sorry, in the public eye, specifically in pro sports no one is their own worst enemy worse than the black athlete

I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying that, it's well documented. None of this makes what sterling said acceptable but IMO there will never be a day where racism doesn't exist because most of the time the people who are always crying racism segregate themselves by their actions and the way they conduct themselves
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Look at the NFL and it's even worse.

[GLOW]

RS group buy of the Clippers? :whistle:

does it come with the gold diggin' hoes or is that extra? :troll:

[Hondaracer]

So it goes like this..

Sterling ousted finally as a racist with true evidence

NBA bans him from the NBA essentially and plans to "vote" him into selling the team

Numerous high profile celebrities and icons show interest in the team inherently driving up the price

Racist Sterling sits back laughing as potential buyers drive price through the ceiling because they want the good-will image that comes along with restoring the clippers

So either sterling takes an absorbanant amount of money for his team, or his spits in the face of the NBA and draws it into a huge legal battle
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[Soundy]

...an absorbanant amount of money...
I wAnder if you meant "exorbitant"...

:suspicious:

[Hondaracer]

Lol absorb dat money
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[dachinesedude]

banning him was the right thing to do, but make him sell the team? he'll be laughing straight to the bank with it

[Manic!]

banning him was the right thing to do, but make him sell the team? he'll be laughing straight to the bank with it

So what you want them to ban him and not sell the team?

[Spoon]

banning him was the right thing to do, but make him sell the team? he'll be laughing straight to the bank with it

Sure his ROI on his initial investment was ridiculously good. But the team's been making him money even when it's near the bottom of the league. Why would he be "laughing to the bank" when he's assembled a winner now?

With the Lakers likely in rebuild mode, the Clippers are likely going to be worth more down the road.

[Hondaracer]

the guy is an 80 year old billionaire, he's the joan rivers of the NBA. i doubt he's thinking 15-20 down the road.

[Drow]

am i the only one who's siding with donald sterling in this fiasco?

the way i see it : everyone is entitled to their own opinions, as long as they don't publicly denounce others. donald said those things in a private setting, to someone who he obviously trusted. hey, i can tell my good buddy "damn i fucking hate those _________. pisses me off"

i think that's okay in my books. as long as i dont go directly tell the _____ that i fucking hate them. no one is supposed to live a "perfect" life expected by society.

damn i hope that bitch gets what she deserves... backstabbing whore. and i hope donald sterling gets to keep his team, piss off all those bandwagoners who jumped into throwing tomatoes at him

fail me all u want nikkas come at me

[RRxtar]

So whats all this about his Wife filing a law suit in March suing his GF for being a gold digging whore? I bet that has something to do with her recording the conversation.

[meme405]

So whats all this about his Wife filing a law suit in March suing his GF for being a gold digging whore? I bet that has something to do with her recording the conversation.

I bet the fact that she is a gold digging whore has something to do with the fact that she is recording the conversation.

Blackmail's a bitch.

[Preemo]

After I saw pictures of said gold digging whore ... fuck man ... the story got even sadder.

[Manic!]

am i the only one who's siding with donald sterling in this fiasco?

the way i see it : everyone is entitled to their own opinions, as long as they don't publicly denounce others. donald said those things in a private setting, to someone who he obviously trusted. hey, i can tell my good buddy "damn i fucking hate those _________. pisses me off"

i think that's okay in my books. as long as i dont go directly tell the _____ that i fucking hate them. no one is supposed to live a "perfect" life expected by society.

damn i hope that bitch gets what she deserves... backstabbing whore. and i hope donald sterling gets to keep his team, piss off all those bandwagoners who jumped into throwing tomatoes at him

fail me all u want nikkas come at me

What about the 81 year old perv who is banging a girl 50 years younger then him and showing her off while he is still married. If the NBA did not come down hard on him the players on the team were going to talk. They had plans to leave the court after tip off.

[will068]

am i the only one who's siding with donald sterling in this fiasco?

the way i see it : everyone is entitled to their own opinions, as long as they don't publicly denounce others. donald said those things in a private setting, to someone who he obviously trusted. hey, i can tell my good buddy "damn i fucking hate those _________. pisses me off"

i think that's okay in my books. as long as i dont go directly tell the _____ that i fucking hate them. no one is supposed to live a "perfect" life expected by society.

damn i hope that bitch gets what she deserves... backstabbing whore. and i hope donald sterling gets to keep his team, piss off all those bandwagoners who jumped into throwing tomatoes at him

fail me all u want nikkas come at me


Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just be ready for the accolades or criticism that come from the opinions of others. That's free speech for you.

He's a grown ass man with lots of whore experiences. If he entrusted a garden tool, that's his problem, that's his business, that's his life. It so happens that it affected one of his business dealings.

[will068]

I haven't been following this story other than hearing the penalties levied against this guy.

I'm curious how a sports organization has the legal ability to charge monetary penalties (fines) against a person?

Like, I understand that to be granted membership in an organization like the NBA that there are a set of rules to abide by so I understand they can rescinde his membership, maybe force him to sell the team but how can they legally charge him a personal fine of 2.5mil? Making racist comments is not illegal as far as I know in the USA...

Just like how you can fine a player X amount of dollars for doing something flagrant, they (the owners) have their own bylaws that they agreed upon on that is binding under contract. It used to be the case where the NBA owners constitution was private. Because of this Donald Sterling matter, it was leaked or release to the public.

For forcing Sterling to sell the team, it's debated among the owners' circle if they should force out Sterling. Why ? Because it opens up the doors for other owners to losing their franchise at anytime.

[The7even]

am i the only one that gets what he's saying.

he's saying theoretically there's nothing wrong with minorities. but in real world applications, people act certain ways and perceive and stereotype people by the race they are. and a man of his reputation and stature, a lot of business is by reputation. and if he feels the people he works with will make his life harder because of those "broadcasts" then he will likely not want those kind of broadcasts... well, broadcasted. it hurts his reputation regardless of whether he cares or not. and in his business reputation matters.

its just the reality of things.
there's two extremes of image and caring about what other people think... one is a slight insecurity, but you're only insecure because you're able to perceive the negative effects of how others perceive you. and if you care about your image, then obviously it matters. regardless of whether you feel racist or not.

imagine if you were working on wall street. you can imagine the people u work with. and then your gf who's widely known as your gf starts bringing her gay friends to your parties and taking pics with gays. even if you're not anti homo, you know your work is gonna give you a hard time about it. so naturally you'd tell your gf to stop making your life harder. those things don't need to be "broadcasted". there's gonna be a reaction.

yes, you shouldn't care. but the real world doesn't work like that. there is always a reaction.

if you care about your career, you have to play by the rules of that career (which is made up of what other people in that field think). reputation and imagery amongst your field of work is everything if that is your passion.

all it is, is keeping the balance of security amongst the group you're associated with.


edit: oops, peanutbutter pretty much has the same perspective i do. when a person has a hyper sensitivity of detecting the balance and comfort of others (even if it's an insecurity of others), you just can't help but feel bad if you upset the balance. that's all it is. you don't wanna be the party pooper. and you recognize that even though these other people have insecurities, that's just their value system and the way they live their life. and you have no right to be righteous and say that they are absolutely WRONG. it's just another way of life. it's better to just keep the balance and not bring trouble to your own life. especially when no one is getting physically harmed.

Came to say that this is the most insightful and intelligent post on this topic thus far.

To the outrageously PC crowd heres a little video. Enjoy.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtwCPXC_Pj0"

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtwCPXC_Pj0

exactly.

[will068]

Came to say that this is the most insightful and intelligent post on this topic thus far.

To the outrageously PC crowd heres a little video. Enjoy.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtwCPXC_Pj0"

You've posted hatred against black americans in your previous posts in the past years and you like use the word "nigger" in those posts. So a racist like you would obviously not understand.

[will068]

am i the only one that gets what he's saying.

he's saying theoretically there's nothing wrong with minorities. but in real world applications, people act certain ways and perceive and stereotype people by the race they are. and a man of his reputation and stature, a lot of business is by reputation. and if he feels the people he works with will make his life harder because of those "broadcasts" then he will likely not want those kind of broadcasts... well, broadcasted. it hurts his reputation regardless of whether he cares or not. and in his business reputation matters.



He's one of the richest men in the United States. The guy who own " half the condominiums" Beverly Hills. He makes life harder for everyone if he chooses to, not the other way around.

am i the only one that gets what he's saying.

its just the reality of things.
there's two extremes of image and caring about what other people think... one is a slight insecurity, but you're only insecure because you're able to perceive the negative effects of how others perceive you. and if you care about your image, then obviously it matters. regardless of whether you feel racist or not.

imagine if you were working on wall street. you can imagine the people u work with. and then your gf who's widely known as your gf starts bringing her gay friends to your parties and taking pics with gays. even if you're not anti homo, you know your work is gonna give you a hard time about it. so naturally you'd tell your gf to stop making your life harder. those things don't need to be "broadcasted". there's gonna be a reaction.

yes, you shouldn't care. but the real world doesn't work like that. there is always a reaction.

if you care about your career, you have to play by the rules of that career (which is made up of what other people in that field think). reputation and imagery amongst your field of work is everything if that is your passion.

all it is, is keeping the balance of security amongst the group you're associated with.



You analogy is missing a lot of attributes. You stated if you were working on Wall Street and your gf brings her gay friends out to your work place. What you're missing is that your clientele base is 80% gay. Your hedge fund that you are a partner of has some gay partners as well (although very few), and their clientele that makes them money, 80 percent of them are gay. So business wise, it shouldn't be embarrassing you. But you have a small close group of buddies that will give you a hard time because your girl is chilling with gay folks.

Here's the kicker, you girl, that your thought was a girl, is a actually a guy. But you keep telling her she's a girl (like how Sterling kept telling his garden tool that she is white - even though she is part black & part mexican).

You being broadcasted not wanting to be associated with gays even though they make you money - that's bad for business. That's what Donald Sterling did.

But if you follow the NBA, this is the tipping point. It's quite ridiculous as well since it took this hidden broadcast for the NBA to disassociate themselves from Donald Sterling even though Sterling has a history of racist acts. What's fucked up even more is the NAACP was suppose to give him a second lifetime achievement award this May. Only now will the NAACP not give the award to Sterling. Before this recording, with all the donations that Sterling gave to the NAACP, this black organization was willing to go blind on all the public racist acts that Donald Sterling has done in the past 20 years because of the large donations he gives. Now that's a modern day plantation owner.

[Harvey Specter]

The bottom line is the NBA had to do something this time around because audio tapes of him spewing his venom got released. If no tapes got released, this guy would still own the team until he died. The sad part is even black players and so called black leaders turned a blind eye on this guy for all these years but when shit hit the fan everyone was up in arms and acted shocked.

Go read the piece by Kareem, it's spot on when he criticizes both sides.

[The7even]

You've posted hatred against black americans in your previous posts in the past years and you like use the word "nigger" in those posts. So a racist like you would obviously not understand.

I see. Let's re-evaluate then.

Do I think whites are better than blacks? No.
Do I think any race is better than any other race? No.
Do I think all blacks are the same? No.
Do I think all blacks are criminals? No.
Do I think all blacks should be hung? No.
Do I think I'm better than anybody alive because of my race or do I think less of anyone due to their race? No.

Yet I am a racist?

Thank you for that insightful post.

Let me tell you what you are, since you enjoy going around telling people what they are so much.

You are a dillusional person, you, I assume(like you love to do) have lived in vancouver most of your life. Your experiences with black americans is incredibly limited. You do not see, socialize or associated with black americans in anyway, shape or form.
You only see what the media has allowed you to see and nothing more.

You are the type of person that moves into a white and asian neighborhood, you live there most of your life and then you comment on how great it is to be living with black people, yet there are none around you.. or maybe there's a nice black middle class family.. but that's it.

Here's a little word of advice: You don't know shit.

1- Canada is a much nicer place than the US. I know, I live here.

2- My opinion is valid. I live in Chicago. Yes, that Chicago. The home of the Chicago Bulls, the Chicago Black Hawks, the Chicago Bears, etc.. oh and home of the fucking murder capital.
Hey, why don't you say shit about this? Chicago body count: 4 dead, 35 shot over the weekend ? RT USA (http://rt.com/usa/155412-chicago-weekend-shooting-dead-injured/) ?(4 dead, 35 shot - just your average weekend) And that's just on one single weekend. It's still happening. Do you think it stops for some reason?

3- You are the problem.
The media jumps on anyone who says theres something wrong.. because if you ignore the fact that there is and you don't allow change to happen.. things will stay the same. The democrats here hate when people criticize their property, and yes, being 100% welfare dependant means someone else owns you.

Guess what country has the highest prison population? Take a guess.

4- And I go back to my previous point with this one..
You live in place X and talk about how great the people are in place Y.
Do me a favor and stop pretending like what I say isn't true.

I have never been threatened by anyone except these ghetto ass thug pieces of shit and almost every single black person I've met here has been the same. They don't give a shit about your opinion or whatever else you think. They will attack you, rob you of your possesions and when you're down they'll shoot you too..
They are openly racist and no one can say a damn thing about it.
I've been called "white boy" , peckerwood (like snoop-shit-dog recently said), cracker, etc... on countless occasions while in school. In my four years of Highschool there were 4-6 shootings and 5 stabbings(none of these were done by whites or asians or hispanics). Fights were frequent.. and I'm in the nice part of chicago.. the north side.

And you're calling me a racist...


Why don't you go ahead with your non racist self, with your head held up high, go throug the south side of chicago.. shit even the north side of chicago at night and tell me how it goes.

Good men like Bill Cosby, Charles Barkley, Larry Elders and many, many others are hated because they speak the truth and try to change things.. they try to bring awareness.. but they're called uncle toms and other stupid shit.

Thank's for being part of the problem. Go kiss Al Sharptons race baiting ass.

[underscore]

"I'm not racist, it's just that all black people are the same"

...right

[Drow]

I see. Let's re-evaluate then.


DING DING DING DING we have a winner

sorry folks but stereotypes exist for a reason. alot of these modern day racism against blacks is partly their own damn fault. i can understand racism in the past... those were uncalled for.

but when you get these ghetto ass naggers stirring shit up and causing trouble for everyone around them, i would say racism is perpetuated by their own people.

of course, not all american blacks are ghetto naggers. there are also a lot of black people who dont participate in obstructing the peace, and they are the victims when it comes to the negative stereotypes. I don't stereotype a black person if they seem presentable. I have not met a single black person who came from Africa who wasn't pleasent to interact with. However when i went to the states... i'd say i saw 3 out of 7 blacks behaving ghetto as hell.

I feel for them, but at the same time there's nothing that can be done. The world is not fair, and it never will be. don't blame the general population for holding these stereotypes, blame the people who reinforced it. i believe stereotyping is a primal cognitive process which helped in surviving. In the primal days... i imagine stereotyping to work like, oh, i recognize a familiar pattern of hide which resembles a (insert dangerous animal here) in that bush over there, i probably shouldn't go near there because i might attacked.

modern day stereotyping : oh, theres some nagger there in a XXXXL t shirt with jeans up to his knees in that dark alley over there... i probably shouldn't walk through there if i don't wanna get mugged.

and the whole glorification of the ghetto lifestyle through pop culture definitely isn't helping. Black people don't want negative stereotypes? Tell yoru fellow brethen to stop acting like a bunch of dumb naggers.

case in point, refer to snoop dogg's response to donald sterling. a prime example of why racism still exists. his incoherent string of words resemble a retard :joy:

[The7even]

"I'm not racist, it's just that all black people are the same"

...right


Do I think all blacks are the same? No.


:lol

[snails]

theres a difference between racist and making an observation

i kinda agree with The7even

i think because of how communities segregate themselves its more about that race in a specific area. but 50km away the people in general are completely different.

if an area is more ghetto/thug it will drive the more stable people out and attract more of the "thug" type." in the case of Chicago that is largely Black populated and lets not beat around the bush. there are stereo type that have been set based on behavior and when that behavior is accepted into a community it becomes the norm.

this goes for ever race specific community. how people conduct themselves will be different based on who surrounds them and influences them

[Sid Vicious]

DING DING DING DING we have a winner

sorry folks but stereotypes exist for a reason. alot of these modern day racism against blacks is partly their own damn fault. i can understand racism in the past... those were uncalled for.

but when you get these ghetto ass naggers stirring shit up and causing trouble for everyone around them, i would say racism is perpetuated by their own people.

of course, not all american blacks are ghetto naggers. there are also a lot of black people who dont participate in obstructing the peace, and they are the victims when it comes to the negative stereotypes. I don't stereotype a black person if they seem presentable. I have not met a single black person who came from Africa who wasn't pleasent to interact with. However when i went to the states... i'd say i saw 3 out of 7 blacks behaving ghetto as hell.

I feel for them, but at the same time there's nothing that can be done. The world is not fair, and it never will be. don't blame the general population for holding these stereotypes, blame the people who reinforced it. i believe stereotyping is a primal cognitive process which helped in surviving. In the primal days... i imagine stereotyping to work like, oh, i recognize a familiar pattern of hide which resembles a (insert dangerous animal here) in that bush over there, i probably shouldn't go near there because i might attacked.

modern day stereotyping : oh, theres some nagger there in a XXXXL t shirt with jeans up to his knees in that dark alley over there... i probably shouldn't walk through there if i don't wanna get mugged.

and the whole glorification of the ghetto lifestyle through pop culture definitely isn't helping. Black people don't want negative stereotypes? Tell yoru fellow brethen to stop acting like a bunch of dumb naggers.

case in point, refer to snoop dogg's response to donald sterling. a prime example of why racism still exists. his incoherent string of words resemble a retard :joy:

i notice alot of your posts are about video games, so you must be a pasty ass skinny forever alone nerd

[The7even]

theres a difference between racist and making an observation

i kinda agree with The7even

i think because of how communities segregate themselves its more about that race in a specific area. but 50km away the people in general are completely different.

if an area is more ghetto/thug it will drive the more stable people out and attract more of the "thug" type." in the case of Chicago that is largely Black populated and lets not beat around the bush. there are stereo type that have been set based on behavior and when that behavior is accepted into a community it becomes the norm.

this goes for ever race specific community. how people conduct themselves will be different based on who surrounds them and influences them

Yeah, not even a race thing. I'd say .. shit, 100% of Africans I've met were incredibly nice people.

[Drow]

i notice alot of your posts are video games, so you must be a pasty ass skinny forever alone nerd

fukin wizard

[mikemhg]

I love it when clearly racist people try to pretend they aren't in order to make a point. Stand by your biggotry The7even, I remember distinctly how racist your posts have been in the past on this board, you're the last person who should be posting on this subject.

[The7even]

I love it when clearly racist people try to pretend they aren't in order to make a point. Stand by your biggotry The7even, I remember distinctly how racist your posts have been in the past on this board, you're the last person who should be posting on this subject.

So what you're saying is.. I'm a racist who is vocal about it.. and now I'm .. trying to pretend to be otherwise.. while also being racist.

Got it.

The only reason you remember me being racist is because what I said hurt your little girly feelings. Oh shit, I said "girly" feelings, I'm sexist too.

[freakshow]

I love it when clearly racist people try to pretend they aren't in order to make a point. Stand by your biggotry The7even, I remember distinctly how racist your posts have been in the past on this board, you're the last person who should be posting on this subject.

I translated your post if you don't mind..

I'm not going to refute or debate any subject or point that you brought up. Instead, I'll make a meaningless generalization, then refer to some posts from yesteryear that may or may not be relevant to the topic at hand.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Donald Sterling On @MagicJohnson , Racism In Sports & How Tommy Sotomayor Sees It! - YouTube

everyone just shut up and watch that. if you have anything else to say after, say it.

if not, then done.

he addresses all the ACTUAL aspects of reality when you DEAL with people.

all you racist name callers... do you guys deal with people? do you guys actually know how people work or are you just judging by some subjectively skewed personal value that you were taught in elementary school?

this is reality.

he got baited, he got fucked.

like the video guy says... regardless of what he says, that is in his own private conversation.

and WE ALL have these conversations in the private of our own places. If i recorded and baited any one of you guys in the private of your own home or whatever.... i could easily get racist remarks from you. easily.

and again... like he says.

i'd never side with a fucking whore over a man.

bros before hoes... he's not as low as a gold digging self absorbed WHORE. period.

racism is the KKK. it's going out and causing pain and grief to a specific race for the purpose of cleansing and promoting your own genes.

how many times have you chinese swore under your breath and mutter something about god damn gwailos? or ah chas or whatever.
we're all fucking "racist".

why do you think we have our own cultures? and our own countries and traditions? why didn't we all just merge together long ago and live as one human culture?
the basis of being proud of one's own race/tradition/culture, is the BASIS of racism.
to see yourself as one thing, and other people as something else.

almost all humans follow these rules of life.

and for those oblivious or super righteous (ironic) of us that don't... well a lot of other people do. so there you go. we're all racist. whether you like it or not.

the very basis of you guys pointing fingers and calling racism, is labeling. racism is also another form of labeling.

one person dislikes blacks, one person dislikes racists, one person dislikes homos, another person dislikes geeks.

what the fuck is the difference? you can dislike whatever you want. as long as we dont act on it and purposely try to HURT someone for those reasons for our personal gratification. it's all ok.

just fucking watch the video. that nikka got lots of smart things to say. lots of valid points which represent the other side of the conversation.

all you other nikkas just pointing fingers, yelling hate words back at a hater (again, how ironic), and throwing tomatoes and wanting to watch someone burn.

you guys have no actual valid points when it comes to encompassing the WHOLE situation, not just basing everything on the audible sounds that came out of his mouth during that recording.

[SpuGen]

Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996) - YouTube

[DanHibiki]

I agree with ulic. Everyone could easily be caught with a similar convo.
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[Soundy]

I agree with ulic. Everyone could easily be caught with a similar convo.
Posted via RS Mobile

Hell, someone could record you quoting a Chris Rock routine and post just enough bits to show "LOOK, HE SAID THE N WORD!"

[Tegra_Devil]

Key & Peele - Sex with Black Guys - YouTube

[underscore]

THE N WORD!

Easy there Soundy.

[freakshow]

Easy there SouNdy.
Easy there underscore.

[RRxtar]

RS at the forefront of race tolerance. the letter "N" is now racist. :lawl:

[Valour]

Why do black people call each other "Monica"?
Posted via RS Mobile

[Mike Oxbig]

Is it safe to wear my Clippers jersey?

[GS8]

Look at this fucking racist right here!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zCami3WJ_nY/UqflHUgykuI/AAAAAAAAKCc/4n1ApjdBzJw/s1600/Screen+Shot+2013-12-10+at+8.00.08+PM.png

[Soundy]

RS at the forefront of race tolerance. the letter "N" is now racist. :lawl:

Anyone notice how these used to be black...

http://auntymummy.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/n.jpg

And now they're white??

http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/722/2867082194.jpg

:suspicious: :fulloffuck: :ilied::troll:

[GLOW]

Wait. ..a white N?
http://www.yalerumpus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Malibus_Most_Wanted_12477c.jpg
Am I doing it right? :troll:

[SpuGen]

Gangster Party Line - YouTube

[highfive]

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports 14m

RT @latimes Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to buy the Clippers for $2 billion

Holy fuck...ppl were saying a billion is a lot. now Ballmer is balling...lol

[PeanutButter]

Holy fuck...ppl were saying a billion is a lot. now Ballmer is balling...lol

This may be a stupid question, but would Sterling get the entire sale amount since he "owns" the clippers, or does the league/other people get a cut too?

[PiuYi]

as far as i know, the NBA is going to block the deal... any sale requires NBA board of governors approval, and on june 3 the NBA will try to seize control of the clippers and also the sale process of it

so any sale before June 3 will be blocked, so sterling can't have control/maximum profits from it... i'm sure sterling will still get the majority of the money from a sale after june 3, it's just that he won't have a say in it

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

that's lower than the words that came outta his mouth.

that's outright thievery haha.

[dangonay]

This may be a stupid question, but would Sterling get the entire sale amount since he "owns" the clippers, or does the league/other people get a cut too?

as far as i know, the NBA is going to block the deal... any sale requires NBA board of governors approval, and on june 3 the NBA will try to seize control of the clippers and also the sale process of it

so any sale before June 3 will be blocked, so sterling can't have control/maximum profits from it... i'm sure sterling will still get the majority of the money from a sale after june 3, it's just that he won't have a say in it

He had better get every cent that comes from the sale of the team. The league, by forcing a sale, is already penalizing him from making any money off the team (either through normal operations or a sale several years down the road where he might get more).

Think of that couple in Coquitlam who kept suing over parking spaces and the judge ordered them to sell their condo and move out. It's bad enough to have to sell and move, but in no way should they be forced to sell an asset that they own and on top of that lose a percentage of it.

I wonder if the league even has the authority to seize control of the team. Usually that's something you see when a team goes bankrupt or is having difficulties maintaining day-to-day operations. As much of an ass as Sterling might be, I'm not sure that his comments are enough for them to legally seize control. I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy (who are looking for blood and want to see Sterling punished somehow), but just because you're an ass doesn't mean you should lose your rights (in this case, ownership of an asset).

[EmperorIS]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_O8aTWfk1Oo/Tcq6OS6daMI/AAAAAAAADzg/V_jW-ZAWJFw/s1600/Clippy.jpg

[quasi]

I don't understand why they would block the sale of the team. They are forcing him out, if he has a buyer let him sell the team and move on. If they do block the sale and it ends up selling for less he's going to sue for damages guaranteed and the courts don't have to abide by the NBA's rules they'll use common sense and the NBA will more likely then not be cutting him, or at least his estate (he'll be dead before it's settled) a huge cheque.

[Manic!]

I don't understand why they would block the sale of the team. They are forcing him out, if he has a buyer let him sell the team and move on. If they do block the sale and it ends up selling for less he's going to sue for damages guaranteed and the courts don't have to abide by the NBA's rules they'll use common sense and the NBA will more likely then not be cutting him, or at least his estate (he'll be dead before it's settled) a huge cheque.

NBA is afraid Ballmer will want to move the team to Seattle.

[Ch28]

Clippers were estimated to be worth 800m-1b when news first hit about Sterling being forced out of ownership. If Ballmer is looking to buy the team for 2x the amount then you better believe Sterling is looking to sell ASAP :lol

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I don't understand why they would block the sale of the team.

because the people that point fingers at racists are equally as extreme on the opposite end of the stick.

ironically both sides just don't see they're the same. lol.

kinda like punishing murderers by killing them.

[will068]

NBA is afraid Ballmer will want to move the team to Seattle.

That pretty much devalues the team if he moves it from LA to Seattle. He's willing to pay $2b because the team is in LA.

[PeanutButter]

because the people that point fingers at racists are equally as extreme on the opposite end of the stick.

ironically both sides just don't see they're the same. lol.

kinda like punishing murderers by killing them.

I'm not sure what the opposite of a racist is, but I don't think it's as bad?

Someone who raped/murdered someone (without any reasonable doubt) should receive the same fate, but that is obviously where you and I differ.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I'm not sure what the opposite of a racist is, but I don't think it's as bad?

Someone who raped/murdered someone (without any reasonable doubt) should receive the same fate, but that is obviously where you and I differ.

an eye for an eye only creates demons.

you can take my eyes from me... but i only have two to take... take them. i can take a lot more before you get to me.

I can do more damage, than you can ever get retribution.

that's not a game we wanna play, trust me.

[hchang]

an eye for an eye only creates demons.

you can take my eyes from me... but i only have two to take... take them. i can take a lot more before you get to me.

I can do more damage, than you can ever get retribution.

that's not a game we wanna play, trust me.

Truth.

An eye for an eye makes the world blind.

What's killing a murderer gonna solve? Right, nothing.

[red_2]

I hope Balmer brings the team to Seattle.

That would benefit all us basketball fans in van! :toot:

[PeanutButter]

an eye for an eye only creates demons.

you can take my eyes from me... but i only have two to take... take them. i can take a lot more before you get to me.

I can do more damage, than you can ever get retribution.

that's not a game we wanna play, trust me.

Emotional quote for sure, but realistically I don't see how it really applies. If John kills my sister and John dies how can John cause anymore damage? Unless you feel the psychological stress will affect me some how?

Truth.

An eye for an eye makes the world blind.

What's killing a murderer gonna solve? Right, nothing.

Killing a murderer can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. To say it solves nothing is a stretch.

[PeanutButter]

Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn....

NBA, Sterling Trust settle on $2B sale of Clippers to Ballmer (http://www.tsn.ca/story/?id=453470)

LOS ANGELES -- The NBA has called off a hearing to oust embattled Los Angeles Clippers co-owner Donald Sterling in advance of a vote on a potentially record-breaking deal negotiated by his wife Shelly Sterling to sell the team to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer for $2 billion.

Shelly Sterling negotiated the deal despite objections expressed through her estranged husband Donald Sterling's attorneys. She said in a statement late Thursday that she agreed to sell the team to Ballmer "under her authority as the sole trustee of The Sterling Family Trust, which owns the Clippers."

The NBA said in a statement Friday that the league, Shelly Sterling and The Sterling Family Trust had "resolved their dispute over the ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers."

"Under the agreement, the Clippers will be sold to Steve Ballmer, pending approval by the NBA Board of Governors, and the NBA will withdraw its pending charge to terminate the Sterlings' ownership of the team," it said.

But Donald Sterling is still fighting, filing suit in federal court against the NBA and Commissioner Adam Silver and asking for damages in excess of $1 billion.

The suit was filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles. It alleges that the league violated Sterling's constitutional rights by relying on information from an "illegal" recording that publicized racist remarks he made to a girlfriend.

It also says the league committed a breach of contract by fining Sterling $2.5 million and violated antitrust laws by forcing a sale.

"Mr. Sterling's lawsuit is predictable, but entirely baseless," NBA general counsel Rick Buchanan said. "Among other infirmities, there was no "forced sale" of his team by the NBA - which means his antitrust and conversion claims are completely invalid. Since it was his wife Shelly Sterling, and not the NBA, that has entered into an agreement to sell the Clippers, Mr. Sterling is complaining about a set of facts that doesn't even exist."

The NBA had been prepared for a lawsuit, saying in its statement that "Mrs. Sterling and the Trust also agreed not to sue the NBA and to indemnify the NBA against lawsuits from others, including from Donald Sterling."

The ownership hearing had been scheduled for next Tuesday after the NBA charged Sterling with damaging the league with his racist comments that were recorded and released. A three-quarters vote of owners to support the charge would have terminated the Sterlings' ownership, and the league would have sold the team.

Shelly Sterling reached an agreement to sell the team on Thursday night.

Donald Sterling was stripped of his ability to act as a trustee of the family's fortunes, including the Clippers, after two neurologists determined he was suffering from dementia earlier this month, according to a person close to the Sterling family.

The individual, who is familiar with the trust and the medical evaluations but wasn't authorized to speak publicly, said Sterling was deemed "mentally incapacitated" according to the trust's conditions because he showed "an inability to conduct business affairs in a reasonable and normal manner."

Donald Sterling made voluntary visits to two prominent neurologists who conducted extensive tests, including brain scans, earlier this month, the person said. Though Donald Sterling is no longer a co-trustee of The Sterling Family Trust, he still retains his 50 per cent ownership and still receives proceeds from the sale, the individual said.

"There is specific language and there are protocols about what to do, and steps in order to get a sole trustee position and that's what took place in the last couple of days," the individual said.

Sterling can try to reinstate his trusteeship by appealing to the California Probate Court.

Donald Sterling's attorneys contend, however, that as a co-owner he must also give his consent for the deal to go through. They say he won't be giving it. His attorney, Bobby Samini, said "the assertion that Donald Sterling lacks mental capacity is absurd" and that he'll fight to not sell given the NBA's conduct.

But the league said the sale agreement is binding and is going ahead with the approval process for Ballmer.

Ballmer said in a statement that he is honoured to have his name submitted to the NBA for approval and thanked the league for working collaboratively with him throughout the process.

Shelly Sterling negotiated the sale after Donald Sterling's remarks came to light.

Silver banned Sterling for life and fined him $2.5 million, and said he would urge owners to force a sale, unless the Sterlings chose to sell first. And the price Ballmer paid was stunning.

"Obviously, I saw $2 billion. That gave me a reaction," said Miami Heat star LeBron James, who had been vocal in calling for both Sterlings to be out of the league. "That was a reaction for sure. But as far as everything else, I haven't quite dived into it. ... Any time a 'B' goes after a number, man, you already know that you're talking about some real money."

This is not Ballmer's first foray into potential NBA ownership. Ballmer and investor Chris Hansen headed a group that agreed to a deal to buy the Kings from the Maloof family in January 2013 with the intention of moving the team to Seattle, where the SuperSonics played until 2008.

But Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson lobbied the NBA for time to put together a bid to keep the team in California, and though the Ballmer-Hansen group later increased its offer, owners voted to deny the bid for relocation and the Kings were sold to Ranadive.

Johnson, who has been advising the NBA Players Association in the wake of Sterling's comments, praised Ballmer in a series of tweets Friday night.

"When the Clips play next season, players will be proud to wear the logo on their chest & fans will be proud to cheer for their hometown team," Johnson wrote.

[Hondaracer]

2B lol, everything I said would happen did. The racist just doubled his teams value and is laughing all the way to the bank

[PeanutButter]

^I think someone like Sterling would rather own the Clippers than have more money.
It's not like he can't already buy whatever he wanted.

[shawnly1000]

Reports: Sterling pulls support of Clippers sale; to proceed with suit - CNN.com@@AMEPARAM@@video: 'sports/2014/06/09/unguarded-intv-nichols-adam-silver-donald-sterling.cnn'@@AMEPARAM@@sports/2014/06/09/unguarded-intv-nichols-adam-silver-donald-sterling.cnn

The deal is off. The suit is on.
Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling is withdrawing his support for the sale of his team, and is asking his lawyer to go ahead with a $1 billion lawsuit against the NBA, according to multiple media reports.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Emotional quote for sure, but realistically I don't see how it really applies. If John kills my sister and John dies how can John cause anymore damage? Unless you feel the psychological stress will affect me some how?



Killing a murderer can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. To say it solves nothing is a stretch.

perpetuating that type of thinking... it's more than animalistic... it's barbaric. even animals don't chase down and execute their own kind out of spite.

in your particular situation, it may end there if john has no loved ones that avenge him.

in a lot of other situations john's loved ones will avenge him.

killing a killer may solve some absurd internal conflict which doesn't apply to the outside world.

In the larger picture, killing the killer means more people losing than winning.

If I took every person that has wronged, or been accused to have wronged, and has been executed officially or privately (or attempted), in all of history of man in the past, present and future... I can guarantee you, there has been more harm done, than healing... to the overall human race and especially "innocents".

feelings can be resolved internally. Your reliance on your feelings being dictated by the outside world situations that don't physically directly connect to you is very concerning.

Do you have free will? or is the situation controlling you?