[ForbiddenX]

New series on Fox about the origins of Gotham City. Looks pretty good

Official Extended Trailer | GOTHAM | FOX BROADCASTING - YouTube

[rice cooker]

ok so the show is gonna be about Gordon? and bruce wayne as a kid? wow this is gonna fail so hard :lawl:

[chin3se604]

Ryan from The OC !

[StylinRed]

I think it could be good if they left baby bruce/catwoman out of it or have bruce for like the 1st episode only

wouldnt mind seeing younger versions of some of batmans villains though but not the cartoony/flamboyant ones like they showed in the trailer :okay: more along the lines of say the early days of Victor Zsasz

[rsx]

Lol, Ryan from the OC, I guess he became a cop after.

[nns]

He was a cop in Southland, a hugely underrated show.

[flawless]

Ryan from The OC !

Welcome to the OC, bitch!

[twitchyzero]

i would've wanted a cable network to pick this up...$$$ means they can do the Gotham setting justice...this is just gonna have that JJ Abrams campy CGI feels I bet

[BBMme]

I'm looking forward to this. Please let it be good

[FerrariEnzo]

cant wait to watch this...

[hi-revs]

Cant wait. This gonna be good!

[hi-revs]

A bit more just to hype this up!

First Look | GOTHAM - YouTube

[StylinRed]

i've been hearing bad reviews so im not going to get my hopes up but will give it a try

[winson604]

i've been hearing bad reviews so im not going to get my hopes up but will give it a try

I haven't heard anything yet but honestly I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I'm thinking it'll be ok enough to watch but won't end up being great. I don't know, not usually a fan of FOX shows.

[6793026]

wow jaden smith got some major botoxxx

[SkinnyPupp]

Great, another show for FOX to cancel as soon as it starts to get good.

[jeedee]

Great, another show for FOX to cancel as soon as it starts to get good.

:suspicious:

Episode one hasn't even aired yet..........

[SkinnyPupp]

:suspicious:

Episode one hasn't even aired yet..........
Your point?

[Lomac]

Great, another show for FOX to cancel as soon as it starts to get good.

That NEVER happens on Fox! They only keep the good shows on air, dontchaknow? Y'know, all those fantastic reality TV shows and cartoons that are 10 years past their expiration date...

[jeedee]

Your point?

Let me know the winning lottery numbers with your crystal ball (that predicted the show is getting cancelled) while you're at it :derp:

[murd0c]

Skinnypupp is speaking the truth, it seems like this big budget fox shows never last since they don't make enough in this ay and ages

[Lomac]

Let me know the winning lottery numbers with your crystal ball (that predicted the show is getting cancelled) while you're at it :derp:

Fox does have a habit of cancelling a lot of shows. While some were justified, others weren't.

Let's see...

Futurama
Almost Human
Dollhouse
Dark Angel
Firefly
Sarah Conner Chronicles
Fringe
etc
etc

I know I'm missing some and that it's not a Fox exclusive thing... It's just that they seem to have a habit of doing it more often than most other networks.

[chin3se604]

Terra Nova :okay:

[StylinRed]

Besides the reality/news shows and cartoons I think Married with Children is still the longest running FOX show then 90210 in behind

[SkinnyPupp]

Fox does have a habit of cancelling a lot of shows. While some were justified, others weren't.

Let's see...

Futurama
Almost Human
Dollhouse
Dark Angel
Firefly
Sarah Conner Chronicles
Fringe
etc
etc

I know I'm missing some and that it's not a Fox exclusive thing... It's just that they seem to have a habit of doing it more often than most other networks.
This. I wasn't saying that literally Gotham is a good show, and that literally they are going to cancel it. I was making a prediction based on FOX's history.

[white rocket]

i would've wanted a cable network to pick this up...

Fuckin' rights!! HBO, SuperChannel, Cinemax, MovieCentral, etc need to do Gotham. NBC/ABC shows are too, I dunno, gay as fuck(besides, LOST; which was good for 2 seasons tops). I'd love to have high hopes but I don't think the network will do "Gotham" justice after Nolan's trilogy.

[SkinnyPupp]

Network shows can be good... They just have annoying issues that keep them from being great.

[white rocket]

I just think that network shows have restrictions in terms of the, say, raciness of the show. Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. ain't no StrikeBack. There's always that level of "cheese" with network stuff.

[SkinnyPupp]

The thing that bothers me the most about network shows is how pretty and clean everyone looks

[winson604]

Totally agree with Pupp on this one as well. Ah wells I'll still watch it but we'll see for how long.

[white rocket]

Agreed. Hard for a network show to be dark, edgy, gritty, etc.

[StylinRed]

Netflix just bought the rights to the show for $1.75m per episode
Shame it won't be available until after the seasons ended on broadcast tv

Netflix has bought the rights to 'Gotham' before the show has even premiered | The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/2/6099727/netflix-buys-batman-prequel-gotham-wb-fox)

[SkinnyPupp]

I hope this means they actually watched it and thought it was good

[rice cooker]

i dont see how this show can possibly be good

[vexor]

Fox does have a habit of cancelling a lot of shows. While some were justified, others weren't.

Let's see...

Futurama
Almost Human
Dollhouse
Dark Angel
Firefly
Sarah Conner Chronicles
Fringe
etc
etc

I know I'm missing some and that it's not a Fox exclusive thing... It's just that they seem to have a habit of doing it more often than most other networks.

The thing with FOX is that they tend to cancel Genre tv shows above all else.

[Sir_Loin]

Episode 1 was dope, if FOX cancels this :devil::devil::devil:

[Gh0stRider]

that was pretty good.

[3klipze]

Enjoyed it. Hopefully it'll continue this way.

[Sir_Loin]

Netflix bought the rights to stream Gotham once the current season is over, should be a good sign Fox isn't gonna cancel it but who knows.

[racerman88]

looked good

[murd0c]

didn't dissapoint at all, all I could think about was the OC tho lol

[7seven]

Fox does have a habit of cancelling a lot of shows. While some were justified, others weren't.

Let's see...

Futurama
Almost Human
Dollhouse
Dark Angel
Firefly
Sarah Conner Chronicles
Fringe
etc
etc

I know I'm missing some and that it's not a Fox exclusive thing... It's just that they seem to have a habit of doing it more often than most other networks.

All those shows pretty much had horrid ratings and low ad buy rates by advertisers, so really not surprised by Fox cancelling those. Of those above, Fringe was an interesting case in our biz, while live ratings where bad, the + DVR ratings were good, but hard to pitch to advertisers with low live viewing rates and only so much in-show sponsorship space, being on the WB end, we produced the show but sold airing rights to Fox, we weren't shocked when Fox pulled it from their schedule and with those ratings numbers, no other network was interested in making space on their schedule. I understand it sucks for fans, I was a big fan of Gang Related and Fox canned that, but really hard to justify the numbers.

Caught Gotham, thought it was ok, Bruce Wayne parts were annoying, I think its the kid actor that annoyed me. Gotham is another WB produced show picked up by Fox, hopefully it'll have a better fate than Fringe.

[Inaii]

I really enjoyed the pilot, though I'm not too sure what to think of Alfred yet.

[AzNightmare]

This guy has such an innocent looking face... I can't take him seriously as a cop.

[kchan]

not sure how i like alfred, not the accent i'd like but ill give him couple more episodes to decide...

cant wait to see how oswald's character shapes up

[palepilsenpin0y]

Guess I'm not the only one who enjoyed the episode but found Alfred = :suspicious:

[SkinnyPupp]

Glad to hear the pilot was good, will be checking it tonight

TV season has begun! :awwyeah:

[rsx]

Not bad, but not great either. It's okay. The title sequence looks cheap as hell and Ryan from the OC still looks like Ryan from the OC.

[SkinnyPupp]

Looks like it can be good, still can't tell from the pilot just yet. Wife is totally hooked of course, she loves all these CW and FOX shows

[DanHibiki]

I don't care for any of the kids in this show but Ben Mckenzie is playing a pretty good Gordon and I like it.

Also Falcone was pronounced different from the movies just like Ra's Al Ghul's name.

[StylinRed]

Was pretty good but I hate all the young versions of the villains that seem to be thrown in there just because, i get its a pilot and they probably felt they needed to but ugh made it seem a bit cheesy

and i am so far not a fan of Alfred, i like Sean Pertwee but not as Alfred nor how he portrays him a bit too thuggish

The actor for Bullock is cool too but I don't like that he was partnered up with Gordon right away there's a cool story line with Gordons first partner that they borrowed for the pilot and it'd work better if it wasn't Bullock imo but that's just me being a bit too picky

[white rocket]

I can't buy into "Ryan from the OC" or Alfred's character. I really dig the cinematography and sets though. More gritty than I would have expected so that is a plus. I'd say the casting is the only thing that suffers at this point. Will keep watching though.

[nns]

The young cat woman was annoying me. I think there was this scene where she was perched on a gravestone. Like get the hell off there. That's some dead guy's memorial you're standing on. I'm just nitpicking. I just can't get into network television.

[murd0c]

It was the first episode and they had to toss in those characters to show us where the show could actually go. I just hope it stay's dark but being a network show I can see that changing

[jeedee]

Wow just realized Gotham teased us with this guy as the Joker?

http://imageserver.moviepilot.com/-9bc4e5d5-18e7-4906-8ac1-67d3e9bd4cc3.png

Interested in seeing a young Mr Freeze

[DanHibiki]

^whoa never realized that. So he's like what. 10-15 years older than Bruce then?

[jeedee]

^whoa never realized that. So he's like what. 10-15 years older than Bruce then?

Yup around those numbers.

It's a bit weird seeing these "younger" versions of the characters :lol

[white rocket]

Interesting about the "Joker" stand-up comedian guy. Didn't catch that reference the first time around.

I couldn't quite tell the era of the setting. Is it modern day? Or is it supposed to be the "past"? Like the 60's or 70's or something?

[jeedee]

I couldn't quite tell the era of the setting. Is it modern day? Or is it supposed to be the "past"? Like the 60's or 70's or something?

If they're showing younger versions of every character it obviously isn't modern day dude :lol

I'm guessing around the 80s or so

[punkwax]

Pilot was decent.. some bad overacting going on but I find that happens a lot before people really sink into their characters. Will watch again to see how things progress.

[white rocket]

If they're showing younger versions of every character it obviously isn't modern day dude

You'd think so but since I didn't see any reference points(cars, media, social markings, etc) it's hard to tell. Also, since there have been several versions of Batman in the movies throughout the years it's hard to tell when "back in the day" would be.

[jeedee]

Also, since there have been several versions of Batman in the movies throughout the years it's hard to tell when "back in the day" would be.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Gotham is trying to be a prequel of any Batman movie?

I think they're just "showing" the early years of the characters when they were younger.

[murd0c]

I think this is modern day but with just young character's kinda like what happened with Smallville

[white rocket]

Yeah, that's kinda what I thought. Just wasn't sure what was implied.

[PiuYi]

they're driving around in 1980's cars and using post-2000's cellphones.... so it's a toss up

[Lomac]

they're driving around in 1980's cars and using post-2000's cellphones.... so it's a toss up

I noticed that too.

I think they're just going the Archer route when it comes to determining what year it is. :lol

[hi-revs]

pilot was pretty good. I'll be following it.
Crazy how they exposed so many to-be-villians in just one episode though...

Wonder if theyll speed up the timeline and let us see Bruce Wayne grow up to be Batman or not. But if they do, then i assume the series may end...?

[jeedee]

Crazy how they exposed so many to-be-villians in just one episode though...

It was fine for me IMO. Seeing the younger versions of the villains grabbed my attention


Wonder if theyll speed up the timeline and let us see Bruce Wayne grow up to be Batman or not. But if they do, then i assume the series may end...?

Thats IF FOX doesn't FUCKIN CANCEL IT AFTER ONE SEASON................

[SkinnyPupp]

I think the era is supposed to be ambiguous, which is really cool

[yogenfruz]

^ It makes sense. There's never been a "set time period" for Batman; it's always evolved with the real world. I'm assuming that based on the vehicles and settings, it's based around the "mid to late 80's", but with modern day technology as well.

[duy-]

im getting a bit of a steampunk feel from the series. clothes, cars, and random tidbits from the 60s with modern day tech

[white rocket]

I think the era is supposed to be ambiguous, which is really cool

You're totally right. They have done a great job to ensure that it is viewed that way as well. Now I'm pretty into it. Once I started viewing it as fantasy instead of how it relates to real life it got way better. I have warmed up to McKenzie as Gordon. Definitely has potential to be a good show. Now that I'm into it I'm afraid it'll get cancelled. LOL!

[7seven]

Wow just realized Gotham teased us with this guy as the Joker?



Their plan for the rest of the season is actually to tease everyone and introduce a new background character who could eventually be the joker, so expect to see a clown or a random guy with a giant grin in future episodes.

[red_2]

im feelin this show

pretty good so far

[Tim Budong]

ending to this weeks episode..

AWSNAP

[Verdasco]

any VODS? didnt know it started already!!

[StylinRed]

any VODS? didnt know it started already!!

Netflix will have it once the season ends
other than that you'll have to DL them elsewhere to catch up

[SkinnyPupp]

Of course it's a weekly crime procedural...

Wife loves it but I only really enjoy it for the nice scenery and Penguin

[gilly]

another great episode.

those bones cracking....

[StylinRed]

Cool EP until the déjà vu ending hope that's not going to be a running theme

[white rocket]

Still a pretty good show. Enough to keep me interested.

[godwin]

If you want to see Donal Louge, I think he is hilarious in the second season of Life

Life (TV Series 2007?2009) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0874936/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ2NjAwMDIwNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzcxNTAwMg@@._ V1_SY317_CR12,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

[mos_skeeto]

I still remember him as the annoying asshole vampire from Blade

[knight604]

Just started watching , didnt think i would like it but damn it is gooooood

[StylinRed]

woot zsasz! kind of hoping he would be portrayed a bit different though

[Tim Budong]

my god this episode

[white rocket]

Best episode so far!! Go Penguin Go!

[thumper]

slightly off topic: the long gun jim gordon was using... what kind of weapon is that? it has a magazine, but it loads cartridges like a shotgun (pump action)...

[Ch28]

slightly off topic: the long gun jim gordon was using... what kind of weapon is that? it has a magazine, but it loads cartridges like a shotgun (pump action)...

Auto shotty?

[thumper]

Auto shotty?

i just googled that... omg it's scary that something like that exists :o

[murd0c]

i just googled that... omg it's scary that something like that exists :o

My buddy has one, its pretty crazy to fire

[SkinnyPupp]

This show is really good!

[Tim Budong]

Gotham 1x08 Promo "The Mask" (HD) - YouTube

:fuckyea:

[thumper]

when i saw the show title "the mask" i was thinking this instead :facepalm:

http://showbizgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Screen-Shot-2013-05-12-at-13.21.47.png

[MG1]

The imagery is awesome. Gives it that comic book feel without being overly goofy. It's like bringing comics to life......... sort of. Hard to explain. And the characters. Can't wait to see how the chick who's sent to the old man affects him. Dude has yet to touch her, but she's so......... you know. Gordon's woman is nice. Switch hitters, ftw!

Very well done series. Have watched every episode so far and it just keeps getting better.

[PiuYi]

barbara... :drool

i've been really impressed with the casting and acting of all the characters in this show, especially that scene where two-face explodes in anger, shows how deranged his alter-ego is

[StylinRed]

Alfred went all James Bond on em

[white rocket]

Still digging it for sure but does the storyline follow anything related to the comics at all? I'm assuming the premise of the show is to tell the tale of Gotham right after Bruce's parents were shot.

Selena Kyle being older than Bruce and meeting him the way she did?, Or Alfred training Bruce to fight and being trained himself?, Jim Gordon faking Penguin's death, etc.

[thumper]

Still digging it for sure but does the storyline follow anything related to the comics at all? I'm assuming the premise of the show is to tell the tale of Gotham right after Bruce's parents were shot.


yes to the second part.

[thumper]

Gotham 1x11 Promo (HD) - YouTube

morena baccarin... shiny. :drool:

[thumper]

Alfred went all James Bond on em

i hope there will be a backstory... scotland yard? special ops? MI5?

[Armind]

Wait, so no more new episodes til January? :suspicious:

[fsy82]

Wait, so no more new episodes til January? :suspicious:

Winter/Fall Break..happens every year with almost all tv shows

[VanCellClinic]

This. I wasn't saying that literally Gotham is a good show, and that literally they are going to cancel it. I was making a prediction based on FOX's history.


Really hope this doesn't get cancelled. Its really good so far and getting better every episode.

[murd0c]

it all depends how much the episodes cost.. Anyone have an idea on the budget per episode they have?

[SkinnyPupp]

Paging 7seven :whistle:

[Verdasco]

trailer was awesome, show was awesome.. but not awesome enough to keep me watching imo (same goes for thousands/millions of people imo).....

[SkinnyPupp]

Ratings have been a steady 6 since episode 3, which is just outside the top 10 shows based on Nielsen's site

[StylinRed]

Still digging it for sure but does the storyline follow anything related to the comics at all? I'm assuming the premise of the show is to tell the tale of Gotham right after Bruce's parents were shot.

Selena Kyle being older than Bruce and meeting him the way she did?, Or Alfred training Bruce to fight and being trained himself?, Jim Gordon faking Penguin's death, etc.

i hope there will be a backstory... scotland yard? special ops? MI5?

well in the comic iirc Alfred was an actor in a troupe but he was also an SAS agent or MI5 something like that

other than that everything else seems to be new as for teaching bruce to fight he doesn't teach him all his batman skills just like what a dad teaches a kid to defend himself is all



as for its success...its the best show for FOX this season more than Bones but FOX is still struggling compared to the rest of the networks
I think Sleepy Hollow may be getting cancelled before Gotham

[thumper]

Really hope this doesn't get cancelled. Its really good so far and getting better every episode.

i am certain there will be a season 2, but there may be problems with how fox increased their order for season 1 from 16 to 22 episodes because many of their other shows are not doing well and they need gotham to keep their numbers up. the show producers did not plan to go past 16 episodes, so right now they are trying to throw something together for the additional 6 which should have been for season 2 and there is a risk of them ending up being half-baked :(

Holy Attrition, Batman! Fox Orders a Full Season of Gotham - Gotham Community - TV.com (http://www.tv.com/shows/gotham/community/post/gotham-full-season-order-fox-141322180598/)

[PiuYi]

anyone know why catwoman is so afraid of poison ivy? backstory?

[thumper]

gotham is back today....

some preshow research material:
http://youtu.be/gd9YjjtCafc

[BBMme]

Been watching it with my gf and we are loving every episode. High hope for season 2

[StylinRed]

I was expecting Dr. Lang to say "shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet" at the end there

[white rocket]

^^haha totally. He even had the same character demeanor with the way he spoke. Homeland hottie was a pleasant surprise :)

[SoNaRWaVe]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120911011714-esqurire-morena-baccarin-vertical-gallery.jpg

:megusta:

[hi-revs]

Anyone know when season 2 will air?

[thumper]

dunno. we haven't even finished season 1 yet.

[murd0c]

Anyone know when season 2 will air?

the second half of season 1 started a couple weeks ago and the next new episode is this monday

[white rocket]

Was there a new episode this past Monday? I'm thinking no unless my box didn't record it.

[thumper]

i think it was a rerun of the pilot episode last monday.

[fsy82]

^^no new episode this past monday

[thumper]

teaser for next ep:

http://youtu.be/BwYyBQhHymc

[murd0c]

Was there a new episode this past Monday? I'm thinking no unless my box didn't record it.

nope but there was a new episode on the 29th

[godwin]

It got renewed for season 2

'Empire,' 'Gotham,' 'Brooklyn Nine-Nine' Renewed at Fox - The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/empire-gotham-brooklyn-nine-nine-764534)

Fox jumped on the TCA renewal train Saturday.

The network used its executive session to hand out early 2015-16 pickups to freshman dramas Empire and Gotham as well as a third run for comedy Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

Empire has become Fox's breakout hit after only two episodes. The 20th Century Fox Television drama from Lee Daniels and Danny Strong has emerged as the No. 1 new series of the season. Following its second episode, it is the only new broadcast drama this season to grow from week one to week two. In live-plus-same-day returns, it tied ABC's How to Get Away With Murder as the No. 1 new broadcast series premiere among adults 18-49. Starring Terrence Howard and Taraji P. Henson, the hip-hop Dynasty has more VOD viewing than any other Fox show this season, earning more than 1.1 million total viewers.

See more Faces of Fall 2014

Warner Bros. Television's Batman prequel Gotham, meanwhile, is averaging a 4.2 rating in adults 18-49 and 10.6 million viewers. It ranks as the season's No. 1 broadcast drama overall among men 18-49 and men 18-34. Its series premiere —6.0 in the advertiser-coveted demo — outperformed The Blacklist and Scorpion and delivered Fox's highest-rated fall drama debut in 14 years. The live-plus-seven rating for the Ben McKenzie DC Comics adaptation from Bruno Heller reflects the largest post-three-day ratings gain (+0.9) of any broadcast drama ever.

Comedy Brooklyn Nine-Nine, starring Andy Samberg and from Parks and Recreation producers Dan Goor and Mike Schur, hails from Universal Television and is averaging a 2.7 among adults 18-49 — up 17 percent year-over-year and posting the largest demo uptick among second-year shows. Its renewal guarantees that Schur and Goor will have one series on the broadcast networks next season after NBC's Parks and Recreation signs off this spring.

Empire, Brooklyn and Gotham join previously renewed animated series for the 2015-16 broadcast season Bob's Burgers, Family Guy andThe Simpsons and mark the network's first scripted pickups. They join Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk's horror comedy anthology Scream Queens, which was picked up straight-to-series last year.

The renewals — one from all of the big studios — come after CBS and The CW announced multiple renewals for 2015-16 during their TCA sessions earlier in the week.

[lowside67]

I am thoroughly enjoying Gotham, and I have to say, against all odds, I think our boy from the OC is actually doing a good job as Jim Gordon. I thought last night's episode was awesome.

[thumper]

i don't know how long gordon can keep it up though... this twisted thing he and the penguin have is just going to keep coming back to him.

[thumper]

Clips | Gotham on FOX (http://www.fox.com/gotham/clips)

[murd0c]

Holy fuck Fox renewing new shows??? They must be smoking that Cali good stuff but I'm shocked and very happy right now!!

[white rocket]

Great episode on Monday! Glad to hear it has been renewed for a second season.

[SkinnyPupp]

More of a relief than anything.. Feels like I'm not wasting my time being invested in more long-term plot lines.

[thumper]

spoiler alert. don't watch if you don't want to know (but i'm sure you do want to know lol):

http://youtu.be/9ViyEA3DGEs
GOTHAM | No One Gets Hurt from "Welcome Back, Jim Gordon" - YouTube
http://youtu.be/j9vMQ3BHlEQ

dammit is it monday yet...

[thumper]

fish mooney is not going down without a fight!

http://youtu.be/6kxyIaXdbWI

[Inaii]

I can't wait! Tonight's episode looks like it's going to be killer :fullofwin:

[white rocket]

Great episode. Probably the best so far. Mr O.C. has convinced me of his role. Since the beginning I was "trying to believe" in him as Jim Gordon and now I do believe. He has done a great job. Knowing that a Season 2 is coming makes me enjoy the show that much more.

[SkinnyPupp]

"Bob" the torture guy has to be the lamest casting of a show this year :heckno:

The rest of the show is still pretty good

[StylinRed]

"Bob" the torture guy has to be the lamest casting of a show this year :heckno:

The rest of the show is still pretty good

would have been cool if they named him 'Lazlo Valentin' in reference to the villain Prof. Pyg....but then the ending would need to be changed

[thumper]

here comes the scarecrow...

http://youtu.be/Sw8txH5437Q

[thumper]

another slightly different one:

http://youtu.be/TF1gxcktRQI

is it possible that.... the penguin is still playing different sides and is working for fish again?

[DanHibiki]

Fuck the kid stuff and this show is awesome.

[white rocket]

Another great episode. I liked Dr. Crane's character. Removing the fear gland to make his potion(I assume that's what he's doing) can make for good future episodes. Fish and the guy at the end. Friend or foe? I bet they run into each others arms next week.

As for last week, really didn't see the kiss between Fish and Bullock coming at the end. That caught me off guard.

[StylinRed]

that's not the scarecrow btw, his kid is the scarecrow

[white rocket]

Ahhhhh...right. Of course. I sometimes forget that we're watching the characters at a younger time in their lives.

[StylinRed]

it'd be better imo if they made the dad the scarecrow as Julian Sands is some great casting...but they named his kid Johnathan Crane and not him :/

[thumper]

damn. i guess this isn't going to be a buddy movie with gordon and the penguin after all :lol

http://youtu.be/8EtYL3aWjb0

[thumper]

http://youtu.be/5UHsUHWSny0

[thumper]

http://youtu.be/IlrjJWqlGKY

[Xul]

Great series. Penguins eat Fish, she should realize this and run away. That being said...
I'm glad she's not though. :P

[7seven]

Joker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGK6FHONN80

[white rocket]

Another good episode. Looking forward to seeing The Scarecrow emerge.

[Inaii]

I'm really liking the Gordon/Dr. Thompkins dynamic

[SkinnyPupp]

You know she's just going to die in a couple episodes

[Inaii]

Shhhh let me have my moment :tears:

[SkinnyPupp]

Sorry lol

I thought Fish Mooney would be gone by now too, but I guess not (yet at least)

[StylinRed]

You know she's just going to die in a couple episodes

not if it's in any way tied to comic history, so far it isn't really but who knows

[nabs]

i think im gonna start watching it now, now that they teased the joker.

[SkinnyPupp]

Did I miss the Joker tease?

[Inaii]

It's in the promo for next week's ep I think

[SkinnyPupp]

Ah, I don't watch those.. Spoilers!

[rsx]

What do you guys think of the "joker"
I felt like it was a bit too Jack Nicholson. I was hoping it would be a calmer, more subtle take to it.

[Tim Budong]

Jack Nicholson vs Heath Ledger Joker are two completely different characters. Can't really compare

Who knows how this will end up, however, I always thought that The Joker's name was "Jack"

and not Jerome

Jerome...just sounds...not cool

[SkinnyPupp]

I thought he was awesome

[white rocket]

Great episode. I thought he did a great job with the Joker character. Total sociopath complete with authentic mannerisms. His laugh and smile were pretty bang on.

[hi-revs]

5 more episodes till season finale :(

[StylinRed]

i was waiting for joker but got red hood...how did i miss a week lol

at least ive got another episode to watch now

[smoothie.]

fish mooney - sees her way through.

:lawl:

[white rocket]

Fish is crazy. Didn't see that coming. Kinda figured that Alfred's buddy was dirty somehow so wasn't surprised at his employer and the outcome.

[Tegra_Devil]

correct me if im wrong, but arent red hood and the joker the same person...(yet the supposed joker was introduced last episode)

[jdmhaze]

correct me if im wrong, but arent red hood and the joker the same person...(yet the supposed joker was introduced last episode)

If you look back they are not the same person. One is a kid/teenager with distinct red hair, the other looks to be a young adult.

[Tegra_Devil]

If you look back they are not the same person. One is a kid/teenager with distinct red hair, the other looks to be a young adult.

Im Well awAre that they are portrayed by different ppl. But the red hood is jokers prejoker name in the DC universe

The original joker for last episode was the kid from shameless. This red hood was some random nobody kid

[thumper]

correct me if im wrong, but arent red hood and the joker the same person...(yet the supposed joker was introduced last episode)

in the comic book verse, the leader of the red hood gang did become the joker in one of the many joker origin stories, but it's different here in the tv world i guess.

[Inaii]

The Red Hood was several people other than the joker. So it's possible that he later takes on the identity of Red Hood.

[sam0m0]

I don't read the comics but I have seen the movie batman under the red hood. So I thought red hood was suppose to be robin? but since everyone is young, robin shouldn't be born yet.

[murd0c]

Jada Pinkett Smith just announced she won't be back next season. Even tho I like her character I'm not surprised at all.

[hi-revs]

Why no gotham tonight?

[white rocket]

Nothing until April 13th I believe. 4 shows left in the season.

[StylinRed]

i thought the season had ended already

new episode tonight

[murd0c]

watching it right now!!

[hi-revs]

A bit of a disappointment episode considering the few weeks wait time for it to air.

[thumper]

https://youtu.be/GT7_-X8B4qI

[Gh0stRider]

oh shiet....can't wait!!!

[murd0c]

Damn what a season Finale

[Ch28]

What a weird season finale.

[Eatman]

awesome finale. now the dreadful wait until the next season..

[StylinRed]

watched the last half... seemed as if i missed several episodes in the time it took to show the first half :crazy2:

[murd0c]

a lot happened that's for sure

[ScizzMoney]

in my opinion that was a pretty shitty finale.

why was cat girl there? she sees some creepy dude looking black chic telling her it isn't the morning and all of a sudden she is a gangster?

Falcone endured more and stuck around, why would he get so scared because maroney got killed? Shit, Falcone had to choke a bitch before and he didn't leave, and it was someone he thought he loved. Not like Fish had a strong established crew. If anything, the city is more ready for him to stay and for him to have more power as the only other real power player is done.

A lot of the dialogue was cringe-worthy. Took away from it for me. "I'm the King of Gotham" ... really?

Cool parts for me were Barbara (More or less because I didn't see it playing out how it did. Figured she'd go nuts but not in that direction), Nygma finally going nuts, I think the way he tipped over the edge was stupid, but worked because you can tie in his act with it and not just hot slut girl figuring his game out.

I still like the show, I just feel like they're trying to cram too much shit in before it gets cancelled whenever it does.

[white rocket]

Definitely a sub-par finale for reasons mentioned above. Still a good show, just disappointed with that being the finale. Other episodes were better.

[knight604]

http://i.imgur.com/Ap0cyR4.jpg

SORRY

[fsy82]

http://i.imgur.com/Ap0cyR4.jpg

SORRY

?

[thumper]

https://youtu.be/lzOvw_3_zm8

[earn3d]

This show is sweet!

[Gh0stRider]

https://youtu.be/FBah_uo9rY0

[BBMme]

I can't believe how dark it is, but so good

[wingies]

S2 ep 1 was leaked, in case anyone missed it

[Mr.HappySilp]

Gotham is not on Netflix!

[murd0c]

Watching it right now and its awesome!!

[Gh0stRider]

great new episode!


Who Is Theo Galavan?
Bustle (http://www.bustle.com/articles/111756-who-is-theo-galavan-on-gotham-the-season-2-villain-has-a-mysterious-origin)

Tabitha Galavan...giggity
http://i0.wp.com/www.thefandom.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/gotham-tabitha-galavan.jpg

[white rocket]

Great start to the season. I love how it picked up exactly where it left off. Gordon getting dirty. Really like Penguin as the boss now, yet I'm sure that will change. He has the right psychotic personality for it.

[StylinRed]

finally got to see it, great start to the season! im not interested in baby batman though, i wish they would cut his parts down

[3klipze]

Damn. Season 2 is starting off strong!

[gilly]

wow.. episode 2 of season 2 was INTENSE

[Gh0stRider]

Damn. Season 2 is starting off strong!

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lRXlsLlOpZeWEE/giphy.gif

[lowside67]

I already loved this show Season 1 and it appears to be getting even better.

That dude above is an incredible crazy person, he's really believable.

Mark

[gilly]

awww. goodbye jerome. wanted to see more of him cuz i wanted to see more CHAOS. So many people dead this season already.

Good episode and an amazing start of the season.

[white rocket]

Very interesting turn of events. Jerome is not The Joker, but more the catalyst that sparks the birth of The Joker. Quite interesting. I did not see that coming. His fathers statement echoing at the end of the episode was cool as well.

[Ronin]

WTF that sucks. He was getting really Joker-like. So that means the actual Joker is a copycat.

Does that mean Barbara isn't Harley?

[lowside67]

This show continues to blow my mind. Loving it.

[rsx]

They should've saved him for the final iteration of joker. I doubt they can top Jerome.

[StylinRed]

Does that mean Barbara isn't Harley?

she isn't in the comics, although the show isn't exactly like any of the comics (closer to the alternate universe versions of the characters though)

[ZN6]

It's funny how Barbara is Jim's ex when Barbara is Jim's daughter in almost every iteration of the animated Batman, who eventually becomes bat girl, who also eventually becomes the commissioner, who also wants to take down Terry and Bruce in the future.

Let's not forget that Barbara was Alfred's niece named Barbara Wilson who also became Batgirl.

I've given up on DC's character histories and chronology and just consider every character a rewrite. The only thing that was ever consistent with the Batman universe is that Bruce's parents aren't gonna make it to Thanksgiving dinner ever again.

[murd0c]

They should've saved him for the final iteration of joker. I doubt they can top Jerome.

Watch him not actually being dead

[ZN6]

http://cdn.meme.am/images/9639860.jpg

Oh Barbara, you naughty little skank.

[monkeywrench]

I'm glad they chose Jessica Lucas as the Tigress. Shes damn fine. Canadian too :D

[dat_steve]

i thought Jerome was trying a bit too hard at the whole Joker bit. Still enjoyed his part though, super surprising to see him go!

[thumper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDlb_vknK5Q

PEEWEEHERMANISMYDAD!!! *faints* :lol

[white rocket]

Erin Richards is British. Interesting. Didn't see that coming.

[ZN6]

I bet Kris Kringle is just as fucking nutty as Nygma.

She's literally ignoring all the creepy shit Nygma has done and the creepy place he's living at and is having sexy time with him now. Like, the hints that Nygma drops aren't subtle in any way that he fucking murdered her ex. It's like the most recent episode forgot season 1 ever existed.

The episode was filled with so much military viagra. Gordon and the new commissioner sporting boners for each other.

Why did the new commissioner not bust Harvey? He is as corrupt as cops get and probably has a file 6 times the thickness of those who got fired for corruption. Bullock was super cozy with Fish.

[Ronin]

She could just be dumb. I mean...lots of people in this series are dumb.

[gilly]

I can see kringle breaking nygma's heart in the future. Then nygma will turn into the riddler.

[smoothie.]

is she going to be harley?

[Ronin]

But Harley...Joker...not Riddler...wtf...

[red_2]

gotta give props

the kid who plays Jerome did an excellent portrayal of the Joker even though he is not the joker...

I was bummed when he died but now I'm ok with Chicklas on board now:fullofwin:

[rsx]

Chicklas sucks balls, what a joke of a commissioner. They should've gotten a tough looking dude. Chicklas pretending to be all military? Yeah...

[Ronin]

Watch The Shield. Then you will never doubt how badass Vic Mackey is.

[ZN6]

is she going to be harley?

I doubt it, it's hard to deviate from her canon. She was one of the finest achievements that the Joker has turned from white collar Doctor to insane murderous whore who belongs to him and only him. I don't think Kringle can ever falling from grace so far as how Harley has been shown in the comics.

For that to happen, Joker has to happen first.

[ZN6]

The most recent episode with the arsonists. WTF, did reverse Michael Bay direct this? First, a guy has a rocket launcher firing into a room and no one was hurt. Seriously, if I learned anything from quake, anything within a 10 foot radius should be half dead.

Also, I don't care if a explosives shop pays off the right people to operate, but how the fuck do you have bricks of C4 just on sale with a PA announcing specials like a damn home depot?

Those pyro guys, why would they listen to some little kid who's only been with Fish for like 2 days listen to her if they were Loyal only to Fish? What the fuck? She shows up with the guy who fucking shot and lead to the murder of Fish and yet they will listen to their job request?

So is corrupt Harvey now also part of Strike-Force and he's second in command to Gordon? Again, Harvey is pretty corrupt and yet he's still taking part under the nose of commissioner hard-ass as his pet team of sub-swat, new police grads.

Is it just me, or was this episode ridiculous? I hope this isn't how the show is going to continue to head, they're killing off great characters and adding in these typical quest-for-domination villains. I am really starting to miss Maroni and Falcone.

Everything seemed so unprofessionally done from this episode.

[StylinRed]

it seemed a little too 60's batman/Batman Forever-ish yes, in that it was a bit cartoony/ridiculous

hopefully it'll turn back into more of a dark cop drama with a little less animation

[blackGS?]

Just getting caught up on season 2
Theo Galavan reminds me so much of
Phil Dunphy from Modern Family. It's hard to take him seriously. Lol

[CL typeS]

OH SHIIIEETTTT MR. FREEZEEEE

[white rocket]

Yup. Good mid-season finale. Excited for next year.

[StylinRed]

OH SHIIIEETTTT MR. FREEZEEEE

Didn't they already do an episode or two featuring a professor Fries? and then killed him off? or am I imagining things...

[PiuYi]

Just finished season 2, WAY better than season 1, things are finally moving along now... still can't believe Joker is dead... maybe not though, he could be at Indian Hill where they're reviving everyone? wtf is happening there?

mann Barbara Keene :megusta:

Silver St. Cloud storyline was good too, finally made Bruce parts interesting

when's the second half of the season starting??

[lowside67]

This one time... Ivy got hot.

http://screencrush.com/files/2016/08/gotham-poison-ivy-pic.jpg

Mark

[thumper]

https://youtu.be/G-AcNtfCSQY