[Euro7r]

I have this neighbor (80+ year old guy) that is constantly making "excessive noise" everyday from morning to night. It's summer time and he's always cutting wood, metal pipes or hammering away in his backyard. I understand that everyone may have renovations to do during summer time with the nice weather, but in this case, everyday is a bit excessive? My home is hot and can't seem to open my windows as the noise and dust clouds come into my home. His backyard is a junk yard with "crap" everywhere and he obviously isn't a construction worker with permit to operate with all that noise. To me, if he's going to be cutting material and hammering away from morning to late evening, he should be doing that inside his house to reduce the amount of noise to surrounding homes.

I don't believe confronting them would work because this neighbor doesn't like every one else that lives around him, that's why he doesn't seem to give a "crap" about making noise as majority of our neighbors ethnicity isn't of this 80+ year old guy. Also coupled by the fact, I don't want any tension buildup as this neighbor might take things personal if I confront them.

Would going to city of Vancouver be an option?

[EmperorIS]

If he's doing this between reasonable hours, you can't do shit. Unless you build a tall fence and blot out the sun with him or buy a really big fan and blow back all the dust to him.

But really, If he's doing renovations... wouldn't he be doing it everyday to get the work done when its sunny?

[freakshow]

If he's doing it between 7:30am and 8pm, nothing you can do. Otherwise, you can call him on a bylaw: Noise Control Bylaw 6555 | City of Vancouver (http://vancouver.ca/your-government/noise-control-bylaw.aspx)

[Euro7r]

If he's doing it between 7:30am and 8pm, nothing you can do. Otherwise, you can call him on a bylaw: Noise Control Bylaw 6555 | City of Vancouver (http://vancouver.ca/your-government/noise-control-bylaw.aspx)

In my case, I can really only grill this guy for doing anything on a Sunday or past 8pm on weekdays.

[320icar]

Is your neighbour multicartual? If so he's probably just filming a music video

[willystyle]

Delete plz.

[GabAlmighty]

Nobody likes bylaw being called on them. Handle it like a man and use your words

[multicartual]

Nobody likes bylaw being called on them. Handle it like a man and use your words


Nobody likes a rat!

[Euro7r]

Nobody likes bylaw being called on them. Handle it like a man and use your words

If I confront the neighbor, they'll know it's me and they might take it personal. Might decide to damage my property when I am not home. At least with bylaw, the neighbor won't know who it is since it can be any of the surrounding homes.

Same can be said if I confront them, they might think I'm being an "ass" and should mind my own business.

That's why I want to make sure I play my cards right. At the end of the day, it really boils down to fairness and what is reasonable. The neighbor can obviously renovate and do whatever he wants in his yard, but everyday from morning to evening, is very annoying and excessive especially he's not building a house or anything.

[Euro7r]

Nobody likes a rat!

Same with being a "dick" if I confront...:pokerface:

[murd0c]

Set up a couple of aluminum plates hanging outside and sit back and laugh

[supremematt85]

Pussy

[Stormspirit]

Reminds me , some neighbours decided to call city of Richmond on me when our household pulled the garbage 1 day out early.

Just complain to city if you think its excessive, they might spare some time to drop by and tell the old dude, and he would never find out who called out on him.

Last thing you wanna do is confront him in an aggressive manner and he pulls something funny on u guys.

[Euro7r]

Reminds me , some neighbours decided to call city of Richmond on me when our household pulled the garbage 1 day out early.

Just complain to city if you think its excessive, they might spare some time to drop by and tell the old dude, and he would never find out who called out on him.

Last thing you wanna do is confront him in an aggressive manner and he pulls something funny on u guys.

Sounds like someone doesn't like you...Maybe you forgot the garbage day and put it out on wrong day; however, that shouldn't affect anyone with garbage put out early.

I'm not going to go aggressive mode on my neighbor. It's simply the fact they might take it personal for the confrontation if I took that route, as though, he's in his own yard and I am in my own yard. Mind my own business type of deal.

[PeanutButter]

Set up a couple of aluminum plates hanging outside and sit back and laugh

I don't get what this means :concentrate:

[GabAlmighty]

If I confront the neighbor, they'll know it's me and they might take it personal. Might decide to damage my property when I am not home. At least with bylaw, the neighbor won't know who it is since it can be any of the surrounding homes.

Same can be said if I confront them, they might think I'm being an "ass" and should mind my own business.

That's why I want to make sure I play my cards right. At the end of the day, it really boils down to fairness and what is reasonable. The neighbor can obviously renovate and do whatever he wants in his yard, but everyday from morning to evening, is very annoying and excessive especially he's not building a house or anything.

Dem social skills... I'm speaking from experience, had bylaw called on me and got way more upset than if they had just come outside and told me to fuck off.

I'm not going to tell you how to start/have a conversation with someone but if you can't voice your opinion in a non-confrontational way than I'm sorry...

[freakshow]

Is he making the noise consistently after 8pm or on Sundays?

[KingCrimson]

This is something called Private Nuisance. Private Nuisance is when you do something on your property that affects someone else on their property. It focuses on the harm done to the injured party’s proprietary rights, in this case, your neighbour is constituting nuisance by activities which produce noise. If you don’t want to confront your neighbour yourself, the only possible remedy the city can use is injunction – in which case the city basically requires your neighbour to refrain from doing a specific act.

[quasi]

Like I used to tell my kid when he was 4, 'use your words". Seriously, if it bugs you that much just knock on his door and let him know. You really think most people are that retarded that they are going to vandalize your property because you asked them if they could keep the noise down after a certain time? It's really not that big of the deal, the worst thing that happens is he tells you to fuck off which isn't out of the realm of an 80 year old man, 100% that would be my fathers reaction. The good news is he probably doesn't have that many years left, I'm pretty sure I'll never see 80. :)

[elwell]

You can always write him an anonymous note.

[Gh0stRider]

what kind of renovations is he doing?

Does he have building permits?

[winson604]

I know the main concern is noise but for his back yard looking like a junk yard you can report that to The City of Vancouver Property Use Branch which deals with standards of maintenance. A persons property looking like shit falls under that.

[Lowered_Klass]

Lots of good suggestions here. Like if his backyard is as bad as you say it is, then you can let the city know about that, as well as the excessive noise.

Honestly, go talk to him. Be super nice (even though you won't want to) and maybe just ask what he's up to. See if the noise is going to last for a while or what. Is he even doing renos?

You seem fairly convinced this guy is gonna fuck with your things and/or your property. Has this happened before? He's 80 years old, chances are he's not going to bother messing with your stuff. He might not like you afterwards, but chances are he doesn't like you now anyway.

I would go talk to him, but also call the bylaw office. Get your other neighbours in on it too, assuming their sick of his shit too.

[SoNaRWaVe]

^^ when i used to do practicum for vancouver health, we get a few complaints about that. if it looks like its crappy enough to harbor pests, call and make a complaint with the public health dept. they will send someone out to take a look. if it looks like it does harbor pests and put the public safety at risk, they can order the guy to clean it up. but if you have seen rats roaming around your place, that kinda seals the deal.

it may or may not originate from him, but its enough to call.

other than that, the noise by law is all you have to go by. like others have said, just be nice about it and say that the noise is starting to bother you and you notice a substantial amount of dust coming over to your property. ask him if theres a way he can reduce the noise and dust coming into your property.

be civil about it and if he's still going to be a dick, then not sure what else you can do. it sounds you fear that he is going to hold a grudge and personally attack your property. then thats a whole new ball game.

[fliptuner]

He's 80, I think you can take him.

[Zoidberg]

Are they 9-5 peasants though?

[LightKeeper]

If you think that's annoying.
Try speaking to those that are living near the construction of the Evergreen line in Port Moody.

Really can't do anything if it's in reasonable hours.

[SupraTTturbo2jz]

thats not as bad as having dumbass neighbors that mow their fucken lawns at 10pm and leafblowers

[AAnthony]

Respect your elders

[asian_XL]

If you think it is annoying, you should speak with him rather than posting on RS.
Buy him a cake, speak with him nicely

[Qmx323]

OPs neighbor

http://hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Clint-Eastwood.gif

[Euro7r]

Is he making the noise consistently after 8pm or on Sundays?

Every year I've moved into my current home, summer time, practically everyday and regardless Sunday or not and even past 8pm.

[Lomac]

This thread hurts my head.

:banghead:

Seriously, if it annoys you THAT much, talk with your neighbour. 99.9999999999999% of the population will not take offence to the fact that their actions may be bothering other people. If he's actually 80, then chances are his hearing is going so he's possibly unaware just how loud the noise is. I genuinely doubt you'll find yourself the victim of a burning bag of dog shit on your front door as a result of talking to him.

Man up.

[Euro7r]

Thank you everyone for the responses. I've been living at my current home for a few years and I've let this excessive noise problem go for many years. Reason I am bringing this up now is because my dad just recently retired and he can't enjoy the comfort to rest at home from this noise and having our windows shut in the hot summer due to this old guy's nuisance.

This old guy isn't friendly as his daughters visit him once every two weeks and his grand kids every few months, that speaks volume in terms of his character. You guys are probably correct, he's 80+ and most likely won't attack me if I confront him about it. I'm going to monitor this noise situation over the next little while since summer just kinda started.

Yes, his backyard filled with junk crap everywhere. Winter months, rats running around everywhere in the neighborhood. Definitely a health concern.

The old guy doesn't have a building permit as he's not really "renovating". He's simply cutting up wood and pipes, painting them and then cuts that same piece of wood and pipe over and over again because he has nothing to do. He's so old that he never/can't leave his house. What does one really "renovating/building" that requires them to do it everyday, all summer long? If he has a building permit, then I am cool with that since I can't do much about that, but because he doesn't.

He's not the only neighbor being as ass at the moment on a side note, I got some other neighbors putting plastic buckets in front of their houses to prevent people from parking, as though the city street is entitled to them because it's in front of their house.

[quasi]

This old guy isn't friendly as his daughters visit him once every two weeks and his grand kids every few months, that speaks volume in terms of his character.


You can't really judge him by that I haven't seen my dad in over 2 years I see my mom maybe twice a year and I like them both a lot mind you they live kinda far now. Even when they were a 10 minute drive away I only seen them maybe once every couple months. People get busy and have their own lives it's usually not intentional but that's just the way it works out.

[MG1]

I don't get what this means :concentrate:

bwahahahahaha..................

We need link to pie plate thread, LOL.




danned?

[Expresso]

You can't really judge him by that I haven't seen my dad in over 2 years I see my mom maybe twice a year and I like them both a lot mind you they live kinda far now. Even when they were a 10 minute drive away I only seen them maybe once every couple months. People get busy and have their own lives it's usually not intentional but that's just the way it works out.

This doesnt sound normal though.

[meme405]

Came in to make fun of multicartual and his noise thread, but 320icar and ZoidBerg already got to it before me...:accepted:

[quasi]

This doesnt sound normal though.

Seeing parents every couple months? Most of my friends are the same. I don't see mine that much now because they live halfway across the Country but like I said even when they were here it was maybe once every two months give or take. Maybe myself and all my friends are not normal.

[fliptuner]

I don't get what this means :concentrate:

http://www.revscene.net/forums/582863-noise-problem-my-neighbour-night-any-serivce-worker-here.html

[7seven]

This doesnt sound normal though.

That sounds pretty normal to me. I'm guess most on here still live at home with parents and thats why. The original poster's neighbor daughters sees him twice a month, that would seem they have a pretty good relationship still. As you get older or move out, you're just not going to see your parents in person as much anymore as you're own life gets busier, move to different cities/countries and even your parents life changes when their kids move out, they might start travelling or taking up new hobbies, etc...

Even if you're in nearby cities, while its nice to try and arrange weekly visits/dinners, I find most only see their immediate family a couple times a month at most. To me that seems to be the norm as both you and your parents get older and you move out.

[GabAlmighty]

Thank you everyone for the responses. I've been living at my current home for a few years and I've let this excessive noise problem go for many years. Reason I am bringing this up now is because my dad just recently retired and he can't enjoy the comfort to rest at home from this noise and having our windows shut in the hot summer due to this old guy's nuisance.

This old guy isn't friendly as his daughters visit him once every two weeks and his grand kids every few months, that speaks volume in terms of his character. You guys are probably correct, he's 80+ and most likely won't attack me if I confront him about it. I'm going to monitor this noise situation over the next little while since summer just kinda started.

Yes, his backyard filled with junk crap everywhere. Winter months, rats running around everywhere in the neighborhood. Definitely a health concern.

The old guy doesn't have a building permit as he's not really "renovating". He's simply cutting up wood and pipes, painting them and then cuts that same piece of wood and pipe over and over again because he has nothing to do. He's so old that he never/can't leave his house. What does one really "renovating/building" that requires them to do it everyday, all summer long? If he has a building permit, then I am cool with that since I can't do much about that, but because he doesn't.

He's not the only neighbor being as ass at the moment on a side note, I got some other neighbors putting plastic buckets in front of their houses to prevent people from parking, as though the city street is entitled to them because it's in front of their house.

Have you tried... Talking to him? Maybe that's all he needs/wants, someone to talk to. Fuck he's a human being for christ sake not some evil entity to stay away from and let "professionals" handle.

[Expresso]

That sounds pretty normal to me. I'm guess most on here still live at home with parents and thats why. The original poster's neighbor daughters sees him twice a month, that would seem they have a pretty good relationship still. As you get older or move out, you're just not going to see your parents in person as much anymore as you're own life gets busier, move to different cities/countries and even your parents life changes when their kids move out, they might start travelling or taking up new hobbies, etc...

Even if you're in nearby cities, while its nice to try and arrange weekly visits/dinners, I find most only see their immediate family a couple times a month at most. To me that seems to be the norm as both you and your parents get older and you move out.

Interesting. I don't think I would be able to pull this off. I can definitely understand if you live way far out from them though. If you lived at home, I can't see what the excuse would be there.

Usually have to hit up the parentals on both sides at least once every two weeks. I can't say its a good or bad thing.

[multicartual]

Have you tried... Talking to him? Maybe that's all he needs/wants, someone to talk to. Fuck he's a human being for christ sake not some evil entity to stay away from and let "professionals" handle.


If it were me, I would chat up the old man and see if he needs help with the backyard. Maybe he's too old to tackle cleaning it up himself and he's depressed because he thinks his neighbors hate him. I ain't above putting on gloves and stepping in rat shit!


Gab, reading through this thread it should be obvious how much contempt people in this city have for each other!

[MG1]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/582863-noise-problem-my-neighbour-night-any-serivce-worker-here.html

I just reread some of the posts from that thread. Holy cow! I had forgotten how stupid that thread was.

[multicartual]

Came in to make fun of multicartual and his noise thread, but 320icar and ZoidBerg already got to it before me...:accepted:


I am getting a resonator installed at Racing Greed right now just so I don't annoy my neighbors when I leave to write at the Naam in Kits around 3 AM


Oh shit who am I kidding it's STILL going to be loud as fuck I bet

[freakshow]

This doesnt sound normal though.

My wife and I have dinner with my parents every monday night, and her parents every wednesday night, but this takes a huge commitment, and isn't always convenient for us.

Most of my other friends only see their parents/in-laws 1-2 times a month, some even less. So I would say it is normal to not see your parents every week, since doing so takes quite a bit of effort.

[jbsali]

I have this neighbor (80+ year old guy) that is constantly making "excessive noise" everyday from morning to night. It's summer time and he's always cutting wood, metal pipes or hammering away in his backyard. I understand that everyone may have renovations to do during summer time with the nice weather, but in this case, everyday is a bit excessive? My home is hot and can't seem to open my windows as the noise and dust clouds come into my home. His backyard is a junk yard with "crap" everywhere and he obviously isn't a construction worker with permit to operate with all that noise. To me, if he's going to be cutting material and hammering away from morning to late evening, he should be doing that inside his house to reduce the amount of noise to surrounding homes.

I don't believe confronting them would work because this neighbor doesn't like every one else that lives around him, that's why he doesn't seem to give a "crap" about making noise as majority of our neighbors ethnicity isn't of this 80+ year old guy. Also coupled by the fact, I don't want any tension buildup as this neighbor might take things personal if I confront them.

Would going to city of Vancouver be an option?

first thing i thought of..

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/gran_torino16.jpg

[Gumby]

My wife and I have dinner with my parents every monday night, and her parents every wednesday night, but this takes a huge commitment, and isn't always convenient for us.

Most of my other friends only see their parents/in-laws 1-2 times a month, some even less. So I would say it is normal to not see your parents every week, since doing so takes quite a bit of effort.
Like you, I also have a designated night to see my parents, and another to see the in-laws. We all live within 30 mins of each other, so I guess there is no excuse. The bonus is that dinner for that night is covered! :)

My mom would be pissed if I saw her only once a month! I find her stance on this annoying at times - I believe that parents should "let their sons go" to start/manage their own family.

[Euro7r]

I am posting here to see if others have encountered such situations or even similar situations and I'm just looking at my options. For those that think I should man up and don't be a pussy and confront. Easier said than done since I've had previous encounters with this idiot neighbor; hence, I don't want to add "salt" to things and taking cautious steps. If he was reasonable in the previous encounters, I wouldn't be here posting :pokerface:

[StylinRed]

Thank you everyone for the responses. I've been living at my current home for a few years and I've let this excessive noise problem go for many years. Reason I am bringing this up now is because my dad just recently retired and he can't enjoy the comfort to rest at home from this noise and having our windows shut in the hot summer due to this old guy's nuisance.

This old guy isn't friendly as his daughters visit him once every two weeks and his grand kids every few months, that speaks volume in terms of his character. You guys are probably correct, he's 80+ and most likely won't attack me if I confront him about it. I'm going to monitor this noise situation over the next little while since summer just kinda started.

Yes, his backyard filled with junk crap everywhere. Winter months, rats running around everywhere in the neighborhood. Definitely a health concern.

The old guy doesn't have a building permit as he's not really "renovating". He's simply cutting up wood and pipes, painting them and then cuts that same piece of wood and pipe over and over again because he has nothing to do. He's so old that he never/can't leave his house. What does one really "renovating/building" that requires them to do it everyday, all summer long? If he has a building permit, then I am cool with that since I can't do much about that, but because he doesn't.

He's not the only neighbor being as ass at the moment on a side note, I got some other neighbors putting plastic buckets in front of their houses to prevent people from parking, as though the city street is entitled to them because it's in front of their house.


Holy fuck :fulloffuck: you do nothing but ridicule this guy and make him sound like some crazy evil monster but it sounds like you've never once spoken to him before (and its been going on for years?) ! holy shit it makes you sound like the shut-in asshole who hates his neighbours, not him

[46_valentinor]

Maybe you're just over-analyzing everything op. Just go talk to him in a friendly way!

I was really upset when my neighbours 5 year old kid came up to me to inform me that their parents called the cops, because my car is too loud. I would have very appreciated it if they told me before informing the authorities and talking to me face to face, instead of his kid telling me.

If you really did have bad encounters with him before hand, then I don't see why you posted here asking for opinions. You would have called the city on him already, you wouldn't be seeking justifications for your actions.

[GLOW]

If it were me, I would chat up the old man and see if he needs help with the backyard. Maybe he's too old to tackle cleaning it up himself and he's depressed because he thinks his neighbors hate him. I ain't above putting on gloves and stepping in rat shit!


but then you'd probably have to travel to East Van where the unwashed masses reside

[Gh0stRider]

If you think that's annoying.
Try speaking to those that are living near the construction of the Evergreen line in Port Moody.

Really can't do anything if it's in reasonable hours.

yup, evergreen line is exempt from the noise bylaw.

[melloman]

I am posting here to see if others have encountered such situations or even similar situations and I'm just looking at my options. For those that think I should man up and don't be a pussy and confront. Easier said than done since I've had previous encounters with this idiot neighbor; hence, I don't want to add "salt" to things and taking cautious steps. If he was reasonable in the previous encounters, I wouldn't be here posting :pokerface:

Trying to figure out a response without screaming at you has hurt my head.

Either go talk to him, or call the city. The city will only give him a "fine" if he's making excessive noise after hours. Otherwise they will come by, laugh and go away.

Possible solution: Sit there and glare at him while he cuts his wood/pipes. Nobody likes a creeper who just sits there and stares at you.

[GLOW]

Possible solution: Sit there and glare at him while he cuts his wood/pipes. Nobody likes a creeper who just sits there and stares at you.

http://media.giphy.com/media/s3Zug4SSIPt6M/giphy.gif

[jnesss]

is it as annoying as that rs'ers neighbour with the hanging pans and shit? :lawl:

i wAnder if he ever solved the situation, will investigate.

[Tone Loc]

I was really upset when my neighbours 5 year old kid came up to me to inform me that their parents called the cops, because my car is too loud. I would have very appreciated it if they told me before informing the authorities and talking to me face to face, instead of his kid telling me.


This. I had a neighbor who called the city to tow my car because I was parked in "his" spot. Luckily, I didn't get towed (as my car is of course registered to my house) since I was doing nothing wrong, but I was pretty peeved with the bylaw officer knocked on my door to aware me. Now, I still park in his spot because I'm more upset than anything he didn't go to me first, and STILL doesn't admit it when I see him in passing.

Just talk to your neighbor, don't be the asshole that every block has who calls the authorities BEFORE communicating with them face-to-face. It's different if they look like Hells Angels or some shit involving drugs/violence, but 99% of the time they will at least give you a good reason or try to compromise.... not to hate on you or anything, but you sound a lot like the neighbor who called the city on me. Don't be "that guy".

[SSM_DC5]

Try this approach, but keep an eye on your air bags :suspicious:

Neighbors Trailer (2014) - Seth Rogen, Rose Byrne, Zac Efron - YouTube