[westopher]

So why the hell not. Lots of guys do it, lots of people want to do it. I know that the lack of easily available (or so I thought) info, that I was scared to get into it. I spent the day at mission with performance drivers club (Home | Performance Drivers Club (http://www.performancedriversclub.org)) and it was a must do experience for anyone who has interest in driving. The best part of the day was being waved through by a cls63, 2 f10 M5s because I was too fast through the turns.:fullofwin: Its definitely not a race, but the passes were merely a byproduct of me driving my line, and what I was comfortable with and I'd be lying if I didn't feel good about being able to hang with cars that have double the HP and cost literally 10x as much. My instructor was great, and picked out bad habits of mine at the beginning and made me aware of them which helped my driving get substantially better through the day.

To the part that so many newcomers are worried about and what keeps people away from the track. NO INSURANCE. I know, the thought of losing my car and not getting any money for it makes me pretty sick, or being on the hook for the body shop bill. The event is VERY well controlled. Novices are sent out in pairs for the first two sessions with instructors keeping things in control. Passing is only allowed in specific areas which are safe to do so based on your ability level. If you trust your car, and trust yourself, you will be fine. There is no point where you will be driving 100% of your ability during the day if you have common sense, especially with a properly set up car. Keep your traction control on if you have it, get some sticky tires, and make sure your brakes are up to snuff. New pads, good quality fluid, and some brain power make for safe braking, as well as well marked braking zones. At no point on the track did I feel unsafe, or feel anyone else in my group was being unsafe. The fastest I hit was 165 on the front straight, and there is plenty of run off and massive braking zones marked, other than that, you don't feel like you are barreling too fast. Turn 2 was the only "holy fuck theres the wall" turn, but again, your best tool is your brain, so use it often.

Now the important part. The pictures. I didn't bother editing any, so they aren't amazing, but man what an amazing bunch of cars.

I hope this is a good write up to give newcomers a feel of what its going to be like, from the perspective of a newcomer. I can't think of a better way to spend a day off for a real driving enthusiast.
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[mb_]

Subbed :)

Hoping I can at least hit up Mission once this year so I can finally get some track day experience.

[Energy]

What kind of helmet do you use? I'm going to auto-x for the first time this year next weekend and am considering buying a helmet for myself so I don't need to keep borrowing the loaner helmets.

[westopher]

I used a snell 2000 approved motorcycle helmet although I've seen the requirements vary by track and club. Your best bet if you are planning on getting into it is snell SA2010 approved. It will last you a while and I believe it is the most current approval level. Most clubs are satisfied with snell SA2000 but if you want to guarantee you will not need to upgrade for a while or run into any hassle its best to go with the most current approval.

[white rocket]

Glad to hear your experience was as positive as I knew it would be ;). .....and now it begins!

[hk20000]

When you have done enough of these track days these are very therapeutic experiences, whatever car you might have. :)

[Lowered_Klass]

Oh lawd jesus... those Porsche pics...

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[meme405]

I read that as HDPE - high density polyethylene, a type of pipe system I deal with at work...

I need a vacation.

This looks awesome. I'm itching to head out to dirt fish.

[Traverse]

I read that as HDPE - high density polyethylene, a type of pipe system I deal with at work...


I did the same thing.

would love to try this some day, even just to drool on the other cars.

[dared3vil0]

^ Take the Jeep to a track day! :troll:

[kchan]

glad your enjoying your car!

try out other tracks in the PW and then you will get even more hooked!

Pacific Raceway - fun track
Ridge motorsport park - super addicting track!

come out on June 14th at the ridge! that whole event is pretty much 75% locals :D

[westopher]

I'm signed up for june 14th already. I'll be sure to say hi.:toot:
Also I'm heading to Pacific for the proformance school on may 28th. First step to getting signed off for solo so I can get down with the turn 2 lapping days.

[Traverse]

^ Take the Jeep to a track day! :troll:

haha well when it's done it will have a v8 and i have a nitrous kit that came with some parts i bought, but ill probably take the bmw.

[kchan]

I'm signed up for june 14th already. I'll be sure to say hi.:toot:
Also I'm heading to Pacific for the proformance school on may 28th. First step to getting signed off for solo so I can get down with the turn 2 lapping days.

my car might not be ready

so im looking for borrow a car or just drive down in my civic and chill with the people there

ill be sure to find you!

[Traum]

I'm signed up for june 14th already. I'll be sure to say hi.:toot:
Also I'm heading to Pacific for the proformance school on may 28th. First step to getting signed off for solo so I can get down with the turn 2 lapping days.
You sure it's the 14th with T2, Westopher? ;)

[whisper] I think you might want to double check your dates.

[westopher]

Ohhhh I'm going june 16th with VCMC. That could have been awkward. (picture me standing in an empty parking lot confused)

[underscore]

Looks like you had a blast! I tried going to The Ridge with Hooked on Driving in March but my car wasn't ready so I'll be going July 18th (which is also my birthday :toot: ).

I'd be interested in doing something at Mission early-mid August as well if you guys know of anything going on.

[Traum]

I'd be interested in doing something at Mission early-mid August as well if you guys know of anything going on.
UBCSCC has Missions track days on:

Tues, July 22
Thurs, Aug 21

Neither is in the exact time frame that you are looking for, but maybe they'll still work for you.

[trollguy]

wow, few familar faces / cars in those pics. i started HPDE'ing with PDC about 10 yrs ago. they have an excellent driver training program with great instructors. definitely my favourite group when it comes to actual learning vs just lapping days :)

anyhow, paging daredd3vil (or however you spell it lol).... has this changed your mind? :)

[trollguy]

OH YEAH. westopher- glad to hear your day was uneventful and a positive one :)

[underscore]

Something I just thought of, do you guys know which (if any) of these kinds of events can lead to a SCCA SOLO license?

UBCSCC has Missions track days on:

Tues, July 22
Thurs, Aug 21

Neither is in the exact time frame that you are looking for, but maybe they'll still work for you.

Thanks for the heads up! July 22 is a bit close to the 18 but Aug 21 I could probably make work, HoD has a sweet doubleheader at The Ridge the last weekend of August but I've got a family reunion going on.

[Traum]

Something I just thought of, do you guys know which (if any) of these kinds of events can lead to a SCCA SOLO license?

AFAIK, no amount of track days will lead you to an SCCA solo licence, although they will still be relevant experience that are beneficial.

Locally, if you are looking for a novice race licence, SCCBC is holding their driver training program in late June. See the details here:

Driver Training | SCCBC.net (http://www.sccbc.net/get-involved-2/driver-training/)
Sports Car Club of BC > Events - MotorsportReg.com (http://sccbc.motorsportreg.com/)

[DHP 1]

awesome pictures, glad you had fun



how is the PSS treating you

[westopher]

PSS were fantastic. Very confidence inspiring. I think 60-70% of cars there had them as well LOL. I'm eating up the outside edges a bit. I think I need at least a degree more camber if I'm going to be doing more events.
As for the solo license question, the only way that I have found are through the proformance driving school, followed by an afternoon coaching session at a turn2 lapping event at a later date. I believe HOD also offers a way to do it.

[Traum]

Not that I know anything about BMWs, but how much camber are you running now?

[westopher]

I believe its around 1.8 front. Rear should be around the same. Fucking blitzkrieg forgot to give me an alignment spec sheet when I got it done. From the sounds of other e36 guys around 2.8-3 front works well with no toe for a street driven e36 with occasional track/autox use. I believe the rears are fine where they are at right now.

[Traum]

Again, I will stress that I don't know anything about Bimmers, but I would think that while 2.8 - 3° worth of camber should work very well at the track and autox, it would also result in noticeable camber wear if you drive it regularly on the street. One way to get around that is to track/autox the car regularly to even things out.

Also, as far as balance is concerned, be mindful of the fact that even though your rear camber setting seems to work well now, if you fiddle with the front, it will change the balance of the car. For example, if you bump your front camber up to 2.5° while keeping the rear camber the same, you will get more front end grip in the turns, but now your rear will feel more loose because there hasn't been any corresponding grip increase in the back.

[westopher]

The car is a bit understeery as is right now. Which I think is actually fairly beneficial from a learning perspective. I'm not concerned about tire wear really as the car will get driven about 6-7k per year, so the tires could easily last me 3 summers, which is plenty. I'll do some studying and figure out what my best plan is. I think I will need to buy some camber plates.

[white rocket]

The car is a bit understeery as is right now. Which I think is actually fairly beneficial from a learning perspective.

You couldn't be more right, especially with a RWD platform. That understeer forgiveness will help you get to the limit of your car comfortably without the risk of a spin(well, there's always that risk I suppose).

You mentioned turn 2/holyfuckthere'sthewall. I almost did a 360 on turn 2 a couple years ago. Cold r-comps are ballz. It was mid-corner so no wall hitting fear but it was quite the ride :woot2:. Lots of cheering from the bleacher area. lol!

[R. Mutt]

Thanks for posting. This certainly helps give some perspective. I really want to hit a track day just need to sort my clutch first...really want to get out there and have some fun. AutoX is good and all but I feel like I barely get to stretch my legs in terms of all out speed and cornering potential. This year I have other financial priorities but next year I will be hitting the track days in full force as long as I can get out of work.

Did you swap out brake fluid for Mission? I understand it can be particularly hard on brakes and it's recommended to run something like the Motul RBF600 at minimum...but really more like the 660 which will hold up better to repeated laps.

[westopher]

I just used fresh ATE typ 200 and had no problems. The motul rbf600 is higher boiling point so might as well go with that though. Really dependent on how hard your car is on brakes and how your brake cooling is. I didn't feel like I was experiencing any fade with stock pads and better fluid. Upgrading my pads next though as I ate through quite a bit of them.

[Traum]

A lot of people consider autox to provide too little seat time, and factually speaking, they are correct. You are looking at 6 - 10 minute's worth of driving over the course of the entire day, and each run is over so quickly that novices may not have time to relish the experience before it is all over.

One aspect of track day / lapping that I would like to point out is, it is absolutely not about all out speed and cornering potential. The venue for that is road racing, and even then, traffic and competitors often get in the way of that. At the track days, I generally encourage people to drive at somewhere between 7/10 to 8/10, or 9/10 if you are experienced and has the preferred (safety) equipment for it. It is entertainment, not competition. When a competitive attitude is adopted, it is easy for mishaps to take place. For the most part, those concrete barriers at Mission are not very forgiving...

Mission is very hard on a car's braking system. One of the quickest brake failures that I know of is a nicely modified FD Civic with Spoon BBK frying his piston seals in < 8 mins of lapping. Generally speaking, the bigger the horsepower, the harder Mission is on your brakes. But the most important thing to remember is that the driver should always be in control. There are easy measures that the driver can adopt to mitigate the intense brake heat issues, and it won't necessarily slow you down all that much.

1) Do not repeatedly utilize 100% of your car's braking performance. Modern brakes on production cars can take a bit of abuse at 100% of what they are capable of, but if you do that repeatedly, it can very quickly fail, as in the case of the modified FD Civic. If you back off a bit and only tap into ~95% of its maximum braking capabilities, however, you could be running at nearly that capacity for well over 2/3 of your 20-30 min session. Depending on the car, this could mean braking at the #4 brake marker at slightly reduced pedal pressure instead of holding off maximum braking until the #2 marker, or it could mean you ease off the gas a little ways before you arrive at brake marker #5.

2) Alternate between aggressive laps and cruising laps. This is especially important at Mission because all the straightaways require hard braking near the end. (Many other tracks in PNW are not like that.) This requirement means you brakes won't really have the time they want to cool themselves off, and you could fry your pads, your fluids, or other parts of your braking system very quickly. By alternating between aggressive laps and cruising laps (I typically alternate between 2 of each.), you give your brakes a chance to cool off, and the system will last much longer.

For myself, I have only been using DOT 5.1 fluids at Mission, and for the most part, that has been enough for my low powered vehicle. Ultimately, however, the braking should completely fall under the driver's control. I've seen cars doing lap after lap on DOT 3 fluids without any issues at Mission, and I've seen cars boiling their fluids despite using RBF 660. To make it work at Mission, I think you simply have to be mindful of what the car is capable of, and not exceed that capability.

[westopher]

Great advice and post^

[dared3vil0]

^ Such awesome info. Thanks Traum!

[immorality]

Thanks Westopher & Traum. I've done a little bit of autocross over the last couple of years, but haven't done a track day yet. The more I read about it, the more intrigued I get, and I might have to do it this year.

[R. Mutt]

I suppose my choice of words was poor to begin with. I have no interest in going balls to the wall or being the fastest guy out there....I simply want to enjoy my car and sometimes find it frustrating to do so on a tightly set up Autocross layout that, quite often, utilizes only 1st and 2nd gear...and this is with a close ratio gearbox to boot. It would be nice to use 3rd and even 4th on a straightaway and also take larger radius turns...that's all. I know you weren't being specific to my statement but rather providing information that We can all heed. I know I will when the time comes. Cheers.

[Iron Chef]

I think auto cross is a good place to start before jumping into full on track days.
I find that with auto cross you really learn the technical side of car control at 10/10ths driving. Even thought the time on track is short , you are driving on the limit all the time. You train yourself mentally to look ahead , plan your lines and anticipate at a much faster rate.

This makes your transition into track days much easier because everything on a track goes at a much slower pace. I find when I'm on the limit at the track and things start to go a little sideways it's a natural reaction to correct it. The way my car is set up , it over steers a lot and it's just muscle memory to recover , I feel that's is in a large part due to auto x experience.

I have seen more people struggle with track days > auto x then vice versa. I always recommend getting a season of auto x in first before jumping into track days

Even though auto x is a great tool for learning your skill set , it gets old quick. I like putting my car through her paces, running through the gears shifting at redline with you windows open and your engine just howling off the concrete walls , heel toe downshifting from 5-2nd ,
Trail braking into a corner at 120km, reeling in the guy in front of you that you've been working on for the last couple of laps till finally he gives up and waves you by, you can't get those things
At auto x.

[trollguy]

true story. autoxers are fast track day drivers.. and track day drivers are slow autoxers!

i'm the exception though, slow for both :lol:

[boatcaptain]

after reading this thread. i signed up for pca track day :)

[freakshow]

I was there too.. Will upload the rest of my pictures tonight..

Here is one of me and two friends.. both overtaking me :(

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and some solo shots..
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[westopher]

I wanted to take a couple photos of your car, but seemed to just never come across it when I had my camera out. Looking good out there.

[threezero]

I think auto cross is a good place to start before jumping into full on track days.
I find that with auto cross you really learn the technical side of car control at 10/10ths driving. Even thought the time on track is short , you are driving on the limit all the time. You train yourself mentally to look ahead , plan your lines and anticipate at a much faster rate.

This makes your transition into track days much easier because everything on a track goes at a much slower pace. I find when I'm on the limit at the track and things start to go a little sideways it's a natural reaction to correct it. The way my car is set up , it over steers a lot and it's just muscle memory to recover , I feel that's is in a large part due to auto x experience.

I have seen more people struggle with track days > auto x then vice versa. I always recommend getting a season of auto x in first before jumping into track days

Even though auto x is a great tool for learning your skill set , it gets old quick. I like putting my car through her paces, running through the gears shifting at redline with you windows open and your engine just howling off the concrete walls , heel toe downshifting from 5-2nd ,
Trail braking into a corner at 120km, reeling in the guy in front of you that you've been working on for the last couple of laps till finally he gives up and waves you by, you can't get those things
At auto x.

thanks for this post. reinforced my plan to get at least a season or 2 of autos in before even trying a track day.

besides at 50$ a pop i can go to a lot more autox day than track days :hot baby:

and autox has me focus more on improving myself rather than my car. as is my bone stock car is pretty competitive, the only thing holding it back is myself. spending my money on mods will actually slow my learning and put me in a harder class.the way i see it its a win win situation for my wallet

[westopher]

Just got back from the Proformance driving school at pacific raceways. What a day. Sunny weather followed by HEAVY rain in our last track session to really mix it up. The course is very hands on and very much about technique. It starts off a little slow for some with some crash avoidance exercises, but speeds up throughout the day.

Met a few nice guys from Van but not sure if they are on here. They had a MINT r32 gtr, a black Mcoupe and an STi. As always a few porsches were there, someone crashed the schools lotus ass first into the trees at turn 5b(?) after the rain hit.

Pacific raceways is much more intimidating than mission, but still, it felt very safe out there and I recommend it to anyone whos interested in getting into track days, and I especially recommend it to people that are really nervous about jumping in head first. It really does a great job of building you up in increments. Its not cheap, but if you have some cash to spend and really plan on getting into track days its a good start to building technique and also first step to acquiring an SCCA solo license. I didn't take many pics, as there was really no time, but I'll toss some iPotato pics up later.

[dared3vil0]

Auto-X Sunday? :fullofwin:

[westopher]

I don't think I'm gonna make it. Spending too much time with car and not enough with wife haha.

[dared3vil0]

Convince her to go to your next track day!

[Traum]

Just got back from the Proformance driving school at pacific raceways. What a day. Sunny weather followed by HEAVY rain in our last track session to really mix it up. The course is very hands on and very much about technique. It starts off a little slow for some with some crash avoidance exercises, but speeds up throughout the day.
Good to hear that you had a fun day at PR. How did you like the newly paved T7 through T9? I have yet to try that out myself since the repaving, and I've been dying to do so since seeing all that nice fresh asphalt on their Facebook page. Prior to the repaving, T8 used to be quite slippery, but will at the same time scallop my tires...


Met a few nice guys from Van but not sure if they are on here. They had a MINT r32 gtr, a black Mcoupe and an STi. As always a few porsches were there, someone crashed the schools lotus ass first into the trees at turn 5b(?) after the rain hit.

As much as a lot of people absolutely rave about the Ridge, PR will always have a special place in my heart because the track just works so well with my car's gearing. That back stretch after T3b through T6 is my favourite section of the track. At the same time, it is also probably the trickiest section to get right, and the easiest to screw up, especially when there is even just a hint of dampness on the ground. As you already know, the really unfortunate thing with PR is, if you make a mistake on the track, it is not a forgiving track at all. I still wouldn't call it dangerous, but the terrain and the limited runoffs will just do some costly damages to your car if you screw up, much like what you saw today.

ProFormance is certainly not cheap, but Don and his crew do a spectacular job on both the organizing and instructing parts of their school. You really can't go wrong signing up with these guys.

[dared3vil0]

Pics of the wrecked lotus? :D

[trollguy]

Good to hear that you had a fun day at PR. How did you like the newly paved T7 through T9? I have yet to try that out myself since the repaving, and I've been dying to do so since seeing all that nice fresh asphalt on their Facebook page. Prior to the repaving, T8 used to be quite slippery, but will at the same time scallop my tires...


As much as a lot of people absolutely rave about the Ridge, PR will always have a special place in my heart because the track just works so well with my car's gearing. That back stretch after T3b through T6 is my favourite section of the track. At the same time, it is also probably the trickiest section to get right, and the easiest to screw up, especially when there is even just a hint of dampness on the ground. As you already know, the really unfortunate thing with PR is, if you make a mistake on the track, it is not a forgiving track at all. I still wouldn't call it dangerous, but the terrain and the limited runoffs will just do some costly damages to your car if you screw up, much like what you saw today.
.

5a/b is my personal fav for that track.. :concentrate:

[hud 91gt]

Initial Consultation with Naturopath yesterday. $570. How I feel :failed:

Track day event ~$500. How I would feel? :woot2:

Looks like fun, I can't see myself getting out there this year, but maybe a couple more auto x in the mean time.

[westopher]

Good to hear that you had a fun day at PR. How did you like the newly paved T7 through T9? I have yet to try that out myself since the repaving, and I've been dying to do so since seeing all that nice fresh asphalt on their Facebook page. Prior to the repaving, T8 used to be quite slippery, but will at the same time scallop my tires...


Unfortunately I don't have a comparison as to what it used to be, but it was great grip in the dry, however when it got wet the water didn't shed as fast as the rest of the track. They were stressing the importance of coming through turn 7-8 very fast, as it would totally determine what your front straight would feel like. The couple times I nailed it through there I hit the rev limiter in 4th because I got faster than I thought I could even get haha. Bombing in towards the wall in turn one @6700 rpms in 4th gear is something that will stick with me for the rest of my life.

5a/b is my personal fav for that track.. :concentrate:
3a/b was my favourite with the huge drop in. It felt similar to skating a steep bowl, but in a car.:fullofwin:

[freakshow]

Initial Consultation with Naturopath yesterday. $570. How I feel :failed: whoa.. i hope that included the blood test!

[hud 91gt]

whoa.. i hope that included the blood test!

An adrenal test. Haha better be worth it.

[hud 91gt]

Bombing in towards the wall in turn one @6700 rpms in 4th gear is something that will stick with me for the rest of my life.




This scares the shit out of me! haha

[Traum]

Bombing in towards the wall in turn one @6700 rpms in 4th gear is something that will stick with me for the rest of my life.

Haha, good times~! Just remember to keep at least some maintenance throttle when you are ripping through T1. The moment you chicken out and lift before entering the turn will be the time when you spin out at near max speed. It goes without saying that you DO NOT want to spin at 200kph+ at the end of the front straight, especially when there are concrete barriers around you, and probably other cars following you as well..

[westopher]

I felt pretty comfortable through there, although I had to keep an eye on my tach and just maintain speed, or my car would lift off for me when I bang off the rev limiter lol.

[trollguy]

3a/b was my favourite with the huge drop in. It felt similar to skating a steep bowl, but in a car.:fullofwin:

wait until you try the ridge and the "ridge complex". you'll enjoy that if you liked 3a/b :)

HOWEVER, personally- ORP's rollercoaster is MUCH better. so you gotta try ORP at least once! :)

[white rocket]

3a/b is amazing. 5a/b is fun but it sketches me out. My second track day ever I was thrown out with all the A&J S2K's and witnessed their grey one flip on 5a when it hit the curb(you cannot run those curbs there like you can at Mission) and landed on it's roof. Pretty hairy to see that as a noob at the time.

Personally, 1 and 2 are just awesome. So much speed through turn 1(remember no lift throttle oversteer) and a banked turn 2 then up over the burm and down to 3a/b. Definitely my favorite section.

[dj.ac]

How strict is the 90db for these events?

I'm running catless on an evo 8, not sure how many db but its pretty loud at WOT.

[!Kodamu]

Pretty lax for 90db. I have never seen someone get cautioned for being too loud from all the ones that I have been to except at Mission. Best track in the PNW is still ORP I would say, you can check it out from my link in my signature. Too bad that it is 8 hrs away or I would be going there pretty often.

[Traum]

I don't know whether to call Mission strict on noise or not, but I will tell you that at track days, a stock 911 GT2, GT3, and a lot of completely stock Ferraris could get called out for breaking the noise limit if the driver is having just a little too much fun. Organizers have to work with drivers to ensure that they comply with the 90dB noise limit.

[white rocket]

I've seen cars get pulled at Mission. Like 4 or 5 times on different occasions. Never seen it at PR at all.

[ilvtofu]

Anyone else feel it's a little ironic/inconsistent that open header cars doing burnouts and drag racing in the evening is acceptable but a stock supercar going around the track at noon can be 'too loud'? :flamesuiton: :badpokerface:

[Traum]

^^ As I understand it, the difference lies in how the sound is classified. The noise limits that governs track days and road racing are known as sustained noise, whereas those coming from the drag strip are probably considered as something along the lines of peak noise or short noise bursts. When you look at it that way, having a lower noise ceiling for track days and road racing make sense.

Unlike the US, we don't have nearly as much usable space in the middle of nowhere, so we are forced to deal with having our racing grounds in relatively close proximity with the rest of civilization. And when that occurs, lower noise ceilings invariably come into play. I'd much rather deal with and work around a low noise ceiling as opposed to not having a venue to play at all.

[ilvtofu]

Personally if I'm standing at any one point on the track I don't hear the 'too loud' car for any more than a short burst. Different if every car in the run group is too loud but if it's one or two cars I'll hear them for 5 seconds per lap when they fly-by and that's about it.

I would actually consider Mission's location relatively far from residential areas and the fact that it's basically separated by fairly large trees helps a ton too, we don't have that luxury at the Pitt Meadows pad being an airport and all. I would also say that the time frame of track days usually fall within normal working hours (M-F;9-5) and that the nearest residential areas are much closer (and far less protected) to the noise pollution of the busy highways filled with commercial trucks during those hours that the track day noise is negligible. Again, in contrast with the pitt meadows pad location you're looking at much lower volume single-lane traffic especially on the weekends, autox noise is much more significant of an impact.

I'm not saying it should be a free-for-all but recognize where there should be a degree of discretion, and for the most part I'd also say that track day events have been pretty fair with noise control at Mission. We shouldn't wait for neighbours to complain in order to enforce rules but at the same time we shouldn't force ourselves to make it more than it is. Honestly it's not a big deal for me as I'll probably track at Mission maybe once more in the foreseeable future and both my cars are pretty tame noise-wise. Officially Mission Street Legals night which runs until 11PM has a 90db limit, a stock GT500 will probably go over that and they come a lot louder than that...

[dared3vil0]

Quick Q; for VCMC autocross where does one enter the event? it's at the airport so i'm assuming you don't just cruise onto the runway?

[mb_]

Quick Q; for VCMC autocross where does one enter the event? it's at the airport so i'm assuming you don't just cruise onto the runway?

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Pitt+Meadows+Regional+Airport/@49.222542,-122.71699,3a,75y,207.26h,75.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6qj3SskI6FaCkC3FPHlOVA!2e0!4m2 !3m1!1s0x5485d420d943d4e1:0xde63efba48ff9419

Enter here.

Reminder: DO NOT go over the 50km/h speed limit on Ford Road. If you do and get a ticket, you'll be banned from attending future VCMC/UBCSCC/PCA-CWR events.

[Traum]

^^ Yup, entrance is at the intersection of Ford Road and McTavish Road. The actual street address is 18200 Ford Road. You'll see a sign saying "JIBC Integrated Driving Training Center".

Also, the local clubs exchange information on banned drivers. So once you're banned from one club, you're banned by all the local clubs from attending their events. Serious stuff.

[dared3vil0]

Thanks for the info! Speed limit duly noted.

[dared3vil0]

Two other things, what do i need to bring? I don't have a helmet so i understand they lend those out? Also, is there anything i shouldn't bring? i.e i know for track days you have to remove floor marts etc...

[westopher]

Keep your car cleaned out. Bring a backpack with lots of water and some snack like jerky or protein bars. Keep yourself hydrated and alert. I came in a clean car, took my spare, my jack and floormats out and had at her.

[mb_]

Yup no loose objects in the car and trunk. Make sure fluids are topped up but since your car is pretty knew you should be good. Won't hurt to check though. And also, run higher than spec tire pressures

[dared3vil0]

Keep your car cleaned out. Bring a backpack with lots of water and some snack like jerky or protein bars. Keep yourself hydrated and alert. I came in a clean car, took my spare, my jack and floormats out and had at her.

Awesome, thanks man!

Yup no loose objects in the car and trunk. Make sure fluids are topped up but since your car is pretty knew you should be good. Won't hurt to check though. And also, run higher than spec tire pressures

Thx!

[boatcaptain]

anys tips or video on what line to take at the ridge???

[Traum]

The ideal driving line will be vehicle and driver dependent. Your best bet is to do some searches on YouTube for these track videos, looking at cars that are similar to yours. But even then, driver preference (and obviously skill level) will also determine the ideal line that works best for you.

[westopher]

I was checking out some e36 M3 vids at the ridge today before I went to work. Can't wait!

[boatcaptain]

jus came across this video.
Turn 2 June 14th Ridge Personal Best Ek K20A - YouTube

[dared3vil0]

Well the first heat was insanely fun, managed to spin on my first run :lawl: last two runs were way better haha.

[mb_]

I have pics :troll:

[dared3vil0]

The word... Addiction... Comes to mind. SO MUCH FUN!

Tires are fucked though. :okay:

[westopher]

I have pics :troll:
Post em up!
The word... Addiction... Comes to mind. SO MUCH FUN!

Tires are fucked though. :okay:Just think about the seat time you got today. Multiply that by 10 and you are looking at a track day.:hotbaby: Addicted you will be.....

[dared3vil0]

Post em up!
Just think about the seat time you got today. Multiply that by 10 and you are looking at a track day.:hotbaby: Addicted you will be.....

I need proper tires first. One day of autocross and the outside edge of the tires are almost down to wear bars. Literally.

Where those horizontal grooves are, they used to be substantial, and only a few mm wide. Look at 'em now!



http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx27/dared3vil0/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zpsd9ddd23d.jpg


You can see how they're supposed to look; keep in mind these tires are only a few months old

http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roadandtrack/images/WD/bfp010-lit-cam03-1.jpg

[westopher]

You're over thinking it. You need a ton of camber for autocross to keep from eating outside tread on your tires and that being said, its not going to hurt the way they drive by any stretch. You will find on a road course you are going to be driving a lot faster, and hopefully, if you plan on staying on the track, a lot smoother. Autocross is 10/10ths, track days are 7/10ths for beginners. Its a lot different driving, and has a different effect on the car. The tight corners in autocross are going to put the average driver into a world of understeer.

[dared3vil0]

^ I did notice the understeer, but for the most part it was relatively easy to bring it back in line with a blip of the throttle.


I'd still like to do a few more days of Autocross to learn more 10/10 car control before i do a track day. I figure with a track day for a noob like me being 7/10, if i have some experience at the limit with autocross i'd feel more comfortable.

Now MB_ on to those pics of me spinning out in a big smoke show!


EDIT: I'd also like to say a massive thanks to any of the "instructors" who rode along with me today to help, your advice (and directions so i don't get lost) were insanely helpful. (i'd imagine one or two of them are on here...)

[westopher]

I do agree with getting more seat time before you hit the track. I didn't do it, but I'm old as fuck and years of driving experience do count for something.:okay: Just more trying to give you some facts so you don't get too worried about minor issues!

[boatcaptain]

now im worried. im attending two tracks days in a row with zero experience at autox

[westopher]

You will be in the novice group so you will be with an instructor. Don't worry. They will keep your right foot where it needs to be. I was more saying it specifically to dared3vil0 because he wants to gain confidence before he steps up to it. Everyone will be different for their level of comfort.

[CCA-Dave]

now im worried. im attending two tracks days in a row with zero experience at autox

Don't worry about it. I presume on your first track day you're attending a school, or at least a club that's going to require you do some laps with an instructor. While any type of experience (autoX, rallyX, iceX, years of road driving) are going to be helpful...they aren't required.

-Dave

[kchan]

You will be in the novice group so you will be with an instructor. Don't worry. They will keep your right foot where it needs to be. I was more saying it specifically to dared3vil0 because he wants to gain confidence before he steps up to it. Everyone will be different for their level of comfort.

Don't worry about it. I presume on your first track day you're attending a school, or at least a club that's going to require you do some laps with an instructor. While any type of experience (autoX, rallyX, iceX, years of road driving) are going to be helpful...they aren't required.

-Dave

hes trolling :whistle:

[threezero]

^ I did notice the understeer, but for the most part it was relatively easy to bring it back in line with a blip of the throttle.


I'd still like to do a few more days of Autocross to learn more 10/10 car control before i do a track day. I figure with a track day for a noob like me being 7/10, if i have some experience at the limit with autocross i'd feel more comfortable.

Now MB_ on to those pics of me spinning out in a big smoke show!


EDIT: I'd also like to say a massive thanks to any of the "instructors" who rode along with me today to help, your advice (and directions so i don't get lost) were insanely helpful. (i'd imagine one or two of them are on here...)


Good meeting you today. :)

[mb_]

threezero, what car were you in?

I'll try to post a few pics tonight. Took a lot :lol

Finally have some grip this time around. Next mod: driver mod :okay:

[mb_]

Here are some pics. Too lazy to edit them.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.332940036831328.1073741828.164480050343995&type=3

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10375081_332940223497976_9222608372889737157_n.jpg

Damn Mustang drivers :troll:


Had an insanely fun time. My new tires have way better grip than the previous events I've attended. Now, I just need my driving skill to catch up :okay:

[dared3vil0]

That pic is epic. Damn Mustang drivers. :troll:

[Dinan3]

:awwyeah:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/e36dinan3/imagejpg1_zps6262c5a0.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/e36dinan3/media/imagejpg1_zps6262c5a0.jpg.html)

[mb_]

Oops I'm in the shot :lawl:

[threezero]

The bone stock frs :badpokerface::badpokerface:

[kakucaekz]

I got there about noon, went for a couple ride-alongs and took pics. And was moral support for mb_ :D

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2922/14326486225_03d94a6d4d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nPYZec)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2935/14139953647_e44f8ff51b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nxuXAg)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5531/14303325136_2bf4980573_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nMWhf5)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5311/14139800548_a2faee890c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nxub5C)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5279/14326449565_81dda975db_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nPYNk8)

Rest of my pics from today are here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/dawtun/sets/72157644558121170/

Hopefully I can run on the 15th, depending on father's day plans.

[mb_]

The bone stock frs :badpokerface::badpokerface:

*goes through the list of FRS*

Still can't put a car/face to username :pokerface: :okay:

[sdubfid]

Just found this video filmed at the westwood racetrack. Pamela martin is in it too
MacGyver S04E05 - Collision Course - YouTube

[dared3vil0]

^^ Oh man that 240 came way too close for comfort to LEVELLING a course worker than ran for a cone too late...

[Traum]

More pictures from Sunday, courtesy of Dan Rickard Event Photography:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.688141624555700.1073741847.215523228484211&type=1

Damn, man... why do I have to miss the event when there are good photographers out there on course? :okay:

[dared3vil0]

Does anyone know if you have to drive a BMW to participate in a BMW car club of bc event? There's a "dancing with the cones" (autocross) on June 8th that i would love to participate in, but i have no idea if they'd allow a Mustang to run... 90% full so i'd love a quick response :)


EDIT: received a reply and signed up. Super stoked, as you get SOOOO many more runs than VCMC! Anyone else going Sunday?

[mpr]

anys tips or video on what line to take at the ridge???

hope this helps out anyone that is deciding to go to ridge

Ridge Motorsport R35 GTR Track Day - YouTube

[LeadFootLiam]

Never knew this club existed, hoping to get some track time with my miata this year. These guys have super good prices!

[westopher]

I believe you will need a cage to be able to head out on the track in the miata. Something to keep in mind.

[ilvtofu]

Just a roll bar not a full cage. Some clubs in the states might let you by with a hardtop though but I wouldn't recommend it.

[boatcaptain]

pay attention on craigslist or vancouvermiata forum.sometimes used roll bar will be for sale

[westopher]

Just a roll bar not a full cage.
Sorry thats what I meant. I use the two interchangeably although I know its wrong. Bad habit.

[westopher]

Quick question for anyone the knows. Is a snell SA2000 helmet up to standards for the VCMC day at the ridge on the 16th? Its been fine most events I've gone to so far, but I know some clubs have different rules. Proformance required snell SA2005 but had loaners so it didn't matter. Don't want to be in washington when I find out.

[Traum]

VCMC will look for helmets with SNELL 2005 certification (both M and SA types will be acceptable). There will be a small number of helmets available for borrowing, but it is best to not count on there being loaner helmets available.

[westopher]

Anyone selling a SA2005 certified helmet SZ Lg before I go pony up for a new one next week?

[dared3vil0]

Incredible how much fun I've had today, asides from driving there has been some incredibly gracious, very skilled drivers who have let me ride along in their cars, been in an 07 911 turbo that was heavily modified, a 911 GT3, a 2014 GT500 an E92 M3, etc. never had so much fun in one day. If anyone on here happens to own one of the cars you so kindly let me ride in, thank you so much!!


EDIT: holy fuck I just rode in an F430. Speechless. Bucket list item crossed off!!!

[boatcaptain]

i cant wait to go!!!

[westopher]

Just put new pads in and drove out to porteau cove to get them all bedded on sunday. Booked my hotel room at little creek casino. All prepared and so stoked!

[boatcaptain]

can i get a ride in a e36 m3?!?

[trollguy]

can i get a ride in a e36 m3?!?

are you going to the vcmc one as well?

[westopher]

can i get a ride in a e36 m3?!?
Can't tell if srs....
If you are, if love to give you a ride but I'm still a novice so I can only take instructors.

[boatcaptain]

Ridge Motorsports Park with NASA Northwest - YouTube

funny ending

[trollguy]

well at least it was an AWD car amirite

[dared3vil0]

What car are you driving?

[trollguy]

miata

[boatcaptain]

nope.red sti with te37 sl :p

[trollguy]

wait, so boatcaptain are you going to the monday event as well??

[!Kodamu]

No he isn't.


Who is going to the June 14th event at ridge??

[duy-]

^all the losers who think they're too good for a vancouver group :|... plus i got waitlisted so im bitter lol
ill be at the june 16th one, come say hi westopher. ill be around the silver corolla / red corolla / impreza sti / skyline.

[trollguy]

june 14 is actually 75% vancouver drivers.. :lol

specifically, 75% asian and from vancouver :lol

[bcrdukes]

miata

nope.red sti with te37 sl :p

I am pretty sure slowguy drives a red FD. :suspicious:

:troll:

[trollguy]

I am pretty sure slowguy drives a red FD. :suspicious:



i would never own a red FD, those things are brutal

[bcrdukes]

^
Last time I saw you, you were rolling in one, you fucking troll! :mad:

[westopher]

Who's driving down Sunday late afternoon/evening to Shelton?

[ilvtofu]

Last year when I went down to Ridge I had a hard time explaining to the border guard what I was doing in Shelton, I don't think she was familiar with the track day concept. So this year I spent a bit of time thinking about what I was gonna tell them to not come off as shifty or uncertain. Big difference is that this time around I have a Nexus and this was my experience,
Peace Arch - Nexus (June 13, 2014) - YouTube

[Traum]

The last time I went, the moment I told the US border officer I was going to Shelton, he exclaimed "Ah, going to the race track!", and he just waved me through.

But damn... your Nexus experience is pretty nice.

[duy-]

can you leave any earlier? we got about a 5 man cruise going down Sunday 10am, you're more than welcome to drive down with us

[westopher]

I would but my family is visiting so trying to extend the time with them this weekend as long as possible. Thanks though.

[boatcaptain]

would you pass someone on a non passing zone??car infront just pull over to the side.
weird situation - YouTube

[kchan]

had an awesome time at the ridge this weekend

broke my own pr by 5 seconds - running at 1:56.6 :woot2:

improved my turn 1,2,3,4 following boatcaptain

huge thanks to RS sponsor The Speed Syndicate for the endless amount of help on and off the track

https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10376857_10152087140732653_5263568778376915695_n.j pg

[ilvtofu]

Went to this Asians from Vancouver June 14th track day with my essentially stock Fiesta ST with 3300kms when I left Vancouver.

Overall impression of the car is IT NEEDS TIRES... BADLY, the stock tires were unbearable by the end of the day and I left early because of it. The brakes are also pretty meh, I found myself braking way earlier than most and still having to turn in later and sloppier than I would have wanted. I'm not sure whether it's a pad issue or fluid issue but those are my two main concerns.

The chassis is a lot of fun though, car is rolly polly through turn 6 (carousel) and turn 9, so much so that I can barely find the clutch in turn 9 because my foot is in the door and my head is at a 45* tilt to the left. I learnt a lot about steering with the throttle on this car and being only my 2nd time at the Ridge I got to try a few different lines I've observed on youtube since last year. The engine has plenty of torque and as you'll see in some of the videos below I get pretty lazy to shift and leave it in 3rd gear for a lot of the track.


I had a lot more fun in this car than in my 130-ish hp Miata and my best lap time from Harry's lap timer in the Fiesta was about 2:08.3x, somehow the overlay didn't show up on the video though but I guess the app is relatively new to android so there are some bugs or maybe I just don't know how to set it up. You can hear it beeping for the sector times in some of the videos but yeah, you can't see it.

I'm gonna preface this by saying that I know I come off as a douche in what you're about to see, some of my sessions got pretty heated/frustrating but at the end of the day I had a lot of fun and I think everyone else in my run group did too. I don't take it too seriously although my language might make you think otherwise.

Video 1: GTR

This here is one of my first sessions after familiarizing myself with the car. It's also one of the most frustrating because I kept bumping into traffic that didn't want to wave me by. I understand that it is a C/Low-Intermediate group but even then the rules state you should be signed off for solo and have some basic track etiquette.

P.s. when I say "haha it's so fast" I'm basing that off of my old Miata which would actually lose speed going up the hill at turn 10 going flat out.

Fiesta ST Ridge Motorsports Park - Stuck behind GTR Front (06-14-14) - YouTube
In car view

I ultimately had a chat with the GTR owner basically explaining how it would be safer/more beneficial for everyone if he waved people that are on his ass by, including the shitty econoboxes. He got a little defensive and tried blaming it on traffic and stating that he was way faster than me on the straight (no shit sherlock) and that we were "pretty even overall" but he agreed to let me pass if I was on his ass as long as I'd do the same for him. Honestly it was that little bit at turn 11 around the 14:38 mark that gets me, I almost felt like I was brake checked and was genuinely concerned


Video 2: Cadillac

I had a lot of fun playing with this CTS-V coupe but as you can see even after I had the chat with the GTR driver he almost causes an accident between him and the Cadillac on his tail at 4:54 and should've waved that driver by quite a few passing zones earlier. Surely enough once he waves us pass we never see him again because in reality we aren't so "evenly matched". There are some bits in this video like 9:04 where I'm clearly getting a little hot-headed and overdriving the car to the point where it's quite a bit slower/sloppier. I got pretty nervous following the FRS/C350 at the end because I know my brakes aren't that great and I didn't want to inadvertently rear end someone especially coming down the hill before 8A

Fiesta ST Ridge Motorsports Park - Chasing CTS-V (Front view) (6-14-14) - YouTube
In car camera


Video 3: Boatcaptain

This video I have my friend Boatcaptain riding shotgun, we talk about different lines and try out some new things. While trying to keep it smooth though I noticed the CTS-V getting closer so perhaps it's not necessarily faster but at least it'd be a lot easier on my tires. The front passenger tire was ready to call it quits by this session so I ended things a bit early, gas was running pretty low too. Definitely fun to drive with someone more experienced and seeing things in a different perspective, it's easy to get tunnel vision and set in your ways and while they might not be a trained instructor, having a 2nd party's opinion is invaluable for development.
Fiesta ST at Ridge Motorsports Park - Boatcaptain (06-14-14) - YouTube


I have some friends who are interested in tracking but complain that their car isn't set up or they don't have the parts they need, personally I don't think it's really necessary to acquire all those parts to have fun and learn especially on a track like the Ridge. I don't think a first timer can really kill brakes/tires here and my car isn't really set up for track either. Some people complain they have no seat time and don't want to embarrass themselves but you gotta start somewhere right?

At this moment all I want are some stick summer tires and some DOT 4 brake fluid. No one makes an upgraded pad as far as I know but tires would help me greatly in developing confidence to brake harder and carry more speed through corners to improve my lap times. I'm glad I took this car out because now I have a baseline for how mods are affecting it.

[Noran]

Fuck, I need to get some track time asap. I had a blast at autocross today, but I want to wind up my motor and feel the feels. I picked up some Motul RBF600 and looking into either Hawk HP+ or Ferodo DS2500s.

[ilvtofu]

Fuck, I need to get some track time asap. I had a blast at autocross today, but I want to wind up my motor and feel the feels. I picked up some Motul RBF600 and looking into either Hawk HP+ or Ferodo DS2500s.

I ran both before and preferred the ds2500, the hp+ squealed more for me and the cold bite was too grabby IMO. HP+ felt better for me at mission though but for ridge/street I like the ferodo

[bcrdukes]

The Turn 2 lap days @ The Ridge - Do they have a noob group or is there a pre-requisite?

[mb_]

I have some friends who are interested in tracking but complain that their car isn't set up or they don't have the parts they need, personally I don't think it's really necessary to acquire all those parts to have fun and learn especially on a track like the Ridge. I don't think a first timer can really kill brakes/tires here and my car isn't really set up for track either. Some people complain they have no seat time and don't want to embarrass themselves but you gotta start somewhere right?

I've never gone out on a track day yet but this is so true. I've seen some people who aren't quite experienced in auto x/track just yet and refuse to go until they have this mod or that mod. Hell, my first 2 times at Auto X, I was running on some shitty tires but still had loads of fun.

I'm ready to go out to Mission and see how it's like even though my car is not "set up" for it. Would like to have at least upgraded brake pads but whatever. It'll be my first time so I don't really see myself driving too hard. Only thing stopping me is I'm starting my new job soon and don't wanna ask for a day off right away so I might have to wait till August :concentrate:

[white rocket]

The Ridge looks like so much fun. I have to make a point to get out there soon.

As for those looking to mod before hitting the track; you're doing it wrong. Best time to track your car is when it is stock. Then you get to feel the car for what it is and upgrade each piece as you feel needed. This is the best way to learn about your car and driving technique. Mods like RSB's, coilovers, and R-comps can really hide your mistakes and not give you the best impression when starting from scratch.

[ilvtofu]

The Turn 2 lap days @ The Ridge - Do they have a noob group or is there a pre-requisite?

That was the lowest group lol but they require you to be signed off to drive by yourself and have instructors ready to ride with the first timers. Its rare that anyone thinks they need an instructor but its better asking for one than being forced one on you 3 sessions in lol. One of my friends at this event was mic'ed up with an instructor in his passenger seat and went solo after 2 or 3 sessions

I haven't auto crossed in a while but I remember we would say things like "can we get an instructor/senior driver riding with that guy?" After multiple spin outs and slaughtering cones. It seems the Turn 2 guys aren't as strict about that kind of stuff and also its hard to see from the corner stations I guess especially when the car leaves half a front straight of gap between you when he floors it.

You kinda have to take things into your own hands and confront them about their unsafe behavior or tell an official to look out for that car. Like I said though slower traffic is more than welcome in C group but you have to check your rearview and acknowledge/admit when you are the slower traffic.

[trollguy]

I ran both before and preferred the ds2500, the hp+ squealed more for me and the cold bite was too grabby IMO. HP+ felt better for me at mission though but for ridge/street I like the ferodo

once you get a taste of the ferodo crackppipe, you cnat use anything else. modulation is unbeatable imho. well, unless you maybe try raybestos ST series pads... :o

[trollguy]

had an awesome time at the ridge this weekend

broke my own pr by 5 seconds - running at 1:56.6 :woot2:


you now have a big target on your back... :lol:

[kchan]

some videos of the june 14 track day

clip made by my friend:
Lotus Exige S vs 700hp Subaru vs GTR @ The Ridge Motorsport Park with APL and OTCMotorsports - YouTube

and me having fun with boat captain
FFD Motorsport - Lotus Exige S - Ridge Motorsport Park - 1:57 session - YouTube

[trollguy]

nice driving Kal! I gotta sit with you next time

[rcoccultwar]

Props to the Miata on that last vid! Pretty ballsy to be able to make an Elise work like it did. Hope to see some of you guys on the next one zooming past me.

[dared3vil0]

That looks like so much fun i may actually be at the next ridge track day.....

[trollguy]

this thread is good- there's a few ppl now convinced to give it a shot! :)

[trollguy]

That looks like so much fun i may actually be at the next ridge track day.....

that didnt take too long.. :woot2:

and i guess this the 'unofficial HPDE' thread of RS.. not just for westopher.. :lol:

[dared3vil0]

^ After watching that lap video of the Fiesta ST, it looks so much more manageable than when i see the balls out hot laps of GTR's and NSX's

[ackjaman]

would you pass someone on a non passing zone??car infront just pull over to the side.
weird situation - YouTube (http://youtu.be/PDXHKifMcow)

transmission problem, pulled over to get out of your way instead of coast up the hill

[boatcaptain]

crappy day for both of us.my 3rd gear synchro and 5th is done.now i gota get the transmission rebuilt.in my video,your car broke traction. did you mis-shift?

[!Kodamu]

Broke my personal best by 4sec from last year. Never would have thought just getting a kpro can have that much of a difference

Ridge Motorsport Personal Best Ek K20 Ferio 1"55.69 - YouTube







My last session of the day playing with a GT3


June 14, 2014 Ridge Motorsport Park last session, play with 997 gt3 - YouTube

[kchan]

That looks like so much fun i may actually be at the next ridge track day.....

slowguy and i will be going aug 16th and a bunch of rs'ers + locals

will post if im going to ridge in july

so far going to Pacific raceway on july 20th with some rs'ers and locals as well

Props to the Miata on that last vid! Pretty ballsy to be able to make an Elise work like it did. Hope to see some of you guys on the next one zooming past me.

that miata isnt simple :hotbaby: and also a great driver teaching me lots about proper speeds throughout the course that helped me beat my PR by 5 seconds

[dared3vil0]

Is August 16th a ridge track day? If so, where do i sign up?

[boatcaptain]

sign up at motorsportreg

[westopher]

that didnt take too long.. :woot2:

and i guess this the 'unofficial HPDE' thread of RS.. not just for westopher.. :lol:
That was the whole point! Just got back from the ridge. We had 7 sessions today but part way through the 5th session I hit a hole on turn 9a on the side of the curb. I think the tiny tiny bit of stretch caused my tire to go in the hole and the wheel lip took all the impact. Totally folded the lip of the inner barrel. I'm bummed my day ended like that, but its pretty minor and I had a great time regardless. Someones 964 caught fire. Now thats a bad day. It was saved, but some damage ensued.:QQ:
I need to get ahold of a 40 hole 17x6.5 work barrel.
I'll post some photos up soon. Ridge is incredible, and very challenging. It rained very hard in the afternoon and made for a fun time testing out the track in the rain, albeit much slower.
Great job by Rick and the rest of the VCMC crew!

[dared3vil0]

sign up at motorsportreg

I don't see anything on the 16th other than a vintage cars race... :suspicious:

[boatcaptain]

i see it. august 15-16 turn 2 event at the ridge motorsport park

[dared3vil0]

Ohhh i didn't have distance set long enough.

Only issue is the "noob" group or "C" group reads;

"The C group are for drivers that have recently been signed off solo by a recognized instructor from Turn2 or another company like HOD, or a car club like BMW or PCA."

I'm not signed off for solo.

[boatcaptain]

i would recommend going to a pca event or bmw. an instructor will be beside you and teach you through out the day for free. it have less sessions compare to turn 2 event. but if its your first track day,4 session is enough imo.

[bcrdukes]

You can e-mail or call Tom @ Turn 2. If you let him know well in advance, he can arrange for an instructor to pair up with you. That or follow boatcaptain's suggestions and do an instruction day with PCA or BMW. They often have events @ Pacific Raceway or The Ridge.

[kchan]

You can e-mail or call Tom @ Turn 2. If you let him know well in advance, he can arrange for an instructor to pair up with you. That or follow boatcaptain's suggestions and do an instruction day with PCA or BMW. They often have events @ Pacific Raceway or The Ridge.

that or multiple of us rs'ers are known by tom and can instruct you for sure

[bcrdukes]

that or multiple of us rs'ers are known by tom and can instruct you for sure

Will contact slowguy shortly.

[hud 91gt]

That was the whole point! Just got back from the ridge. We had 7 sessions today but part way through the 5th session I hit a hole on turn 9a on the side of the curb. I think the tiny tiny bit of stretch caused my tire to go in the hole and the wheel lip took all the impact. Totally folded the lip of the inner barrel. I'm bummed my day ended like that, but its pretty minor and I had a great time regardless. Someones 964 caught fire. Now thats a bad day. It was saved, but some damage ensued.:QQ:
I need to get ahold of a 40 hole 17x6.5 work barrel.
I'll post some photos up soon. Ridge is incredible, and very challenging. It rained very hard in the afternoon and made for a fun time testing out the track in the rain, albeit much slower.
Great job by Rick and the rest of the VCMC crew!
Guess the LTW decision has been made for you. How did the tire handle it? Shitty deal either way.

[dared3vil0]

I'll send Tom an email shortly.

Assuming he can set it up for an instructor etc, anyone want to convoy down?

[mb_]

Fuck can't find any upcoming track days at Mission/Ridge/Pacific that's on a Sunday or Monday :okay:

[kchan]

Will contact slowguy shortly.

def the best one there

theres also boatcaptain, kodamu, myself, and many lurkers that are willing to help

but out of all of us slowguy is actually the fastest

[bcrdukes]

Seeing kodamu's video was VERY impressive. That's some real skill, and having the ability to show what a FWD platform can do, nevermind being powered by the K20 engine. :woot:

[westopher]

Guess the LTW decision has been made for you. How did the tire handle it? Shitty deal either way.
Tire is fine, didn't even lose any pressure. Shimmied like a motherfucker though.
Heres some photos. Basically all the same photo with different cars put in lol.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14440178302_5eb7180343_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o12FVq)DSC_0321 (https://flic.kr/p/o12FVq) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/14254916790_f9df45da20_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nHEb8q)DSC_0306 (https://flic.kr/p/nHEb8q) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3892/14255095437_cde06af9dc_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nHF6ex)DSC_0287 (https://flic.kr/p/nHF6ex) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2912/14418414716_a1951310b9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nY79nb)DSC_0281 (https://flic.kr/p/nY79nb) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/14254939390_4e0b4dde09_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nHEhR5)DSC_0267 (https://flic.kr/p/nHEhR5) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14438200591_401c18328f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nZRy1X)DSC_0252 (https://flic.kr/p/nZRy1X) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3898/14441564445_0e033bd606_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o19MYr)DSC_0251 (https://flic.kr/p/o19MYr) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3836/14254818180_daf3d6394a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nHDEPf)
Goodnight sweet prince.
Fuck (https://flic.kr/p/nHDEPf) by westophervan (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[boatcaptain]

hope tat wont b an expensive repair for ur wheel :(

[westopher]

Its no big deal. I feel for you much more needing to get your transmission rebuilt. Really bummed for the guy with the 964 with the electrical fire. Thats really scary stuff. They got to it while it was really mostly just melting plastic/wiring. Hopefully its no devastating damage.

[boatcaptain]

yeah because of the transmission and my weird braking problem. i cant attend the annual miata meet at laguna this year

[kchan]

yeah because of the transmission and my weird braking problem. i cant attend the annual miata meet at laguna this year

get working now! you will make it!

[dared3vil0]

Westopher, what size tire is that, on what width rim?

[westopher]

245 on a 9. Its not really stretched per say, but the lip is left exposed slightly. Its stretched now that the lip is half inch out from the bead though lol.

[dared3vil0]

That's not stretched, i was expecting like a 225 haha.

I run a 255 on a 9" wheel, and the BFG's i have run smaller than average, where as your PSS run larger than average... Makes me worry about a bent wheel now LOL.

[westopher]

I hit a hole that I knew was there. I tractor beamed myself. Stared right at it, so of course drove right into it. Nothing to worry about. My stretched tires days are behind me. I like other peoples cars to be slammed with stretched tires just not mine now.

[!Kodamu]

Don't sign up for Group A (open passing left/right) if you can't even check your mirrors or know when a car is running faster then you that is behind you. Might as well stay in Group B.


stuck behind a 911 turbo - YouTube

[boatcaptain]

found some pic of my boat
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/jc8899311/Pors_0195_zps211ebeeb.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/jc8899311/media/Pors_0195_zps211ebeeb.jpg.html)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/jc8899311/PORS_0478_zps46036c6a.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/jc8899311/media/PORS_0478_zps46036c6a.jpg.html)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/jc8899311/Pors_0247_zps446f94d4.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/jc8899311/media/Pors_0247_zps446f94d4.jpg.html)

[ilvtofu]

Don't sign up for Group A (open passing left/right) if you can't even check your mirrors or know when a car is running faster then you that is behind you. Might as well stay in Group B.


stuck behind a 911 turbo - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPFZ_TkDdjg)

That's my dad, thanks for the heads up though. He was tunnel visioning from struggling with front diff trouble all day but that's no excuse for not letting you by, I'll let him know. You're considerably calmer than me in the same position haha

@westopher where's the hole on 9?

[!Kodamu]

There is also a hole right after the curb on turn 10 if you are too far on the curb

[ilvtofu]

Whoops I just realized it's not my dad driving, it's actually the silver GT3 owner who is his good friend. My dad wanted to take pics of his car and asked me to drive it, I said it was too gnarly and didn't want to embarrass myself so he got his friend to take it out and try out the new alignment to compare. I realized this cause I recognize the red glove and my dad always drives bare-handed

Good news is my dad actually has a pretty good pic of you tailing the turbo which I'll upload tomorrow haha

[R. Mutt]

I'll probably get flamed for this but after looking through pretty much all the videos I've noticed that people seem to get pretty fired up when they encounter traffic due to a driver not letting them pass. Now I haven't been out there and from the looks of it most of you guys know the tracks and/or your vehicle well but while there were certainly instances for drivers to let others pass, I'm surprised at how aggressive the driving can get at times. A couple times I thought to myself, "If the guy infront only loses it for a second he looks to be following too close to react in time."

It must get really frustrating with the adrenaline going and someone slowing you down/killing your rhythm. Does this happen to you guys every session out or maybe just the arbitrary once or twice for the day? Also, why not just back off a little and let them get some distance so you can avoid something happening. Would slowing down smoothly to create some space create a risk for drivers behind you?

I look at the videos and the first thing that comes to mind is the ego of the driver in front being bruised because they don't want to see their "superior" car overtaken. I can understand the "David vs Goliath" aspect of the hunt and that correct track etiquette is they are supposed to let you pass but is it worth something bad happening pushing it like that?

I'm not saying you guys can't handle yor stories, for all I know people were driving at 7-8/10s their limit. I lack experience and don't know my car or the tracks so my gauge of the speed may be completely off. Everything I saw was really impressive and looks way faster than I have the balls to push my car.

[boatcaptain]

you are right R muff.sometimes if you see a big group of cars infront of you. my instructor sugguest to go into the pit. or as you mention slow down to create a gap

[trollguy]

def the best one there

theres also boatcaptain, kodamu, myself, and many lurkers that are willing to help

but out of all of us slowguy is actually the fastest

it's true- fastest to call it a day and relax. :lol .. 3 sessions? that's enough!

I'll probably get flamed for this but after looking through pretty much all the videos I've noticed that people seem to get pretty fired up when they encounter traffic due to a driver not letting them pass. Now I haven't been out there and from the looks of it most of you guys know the tracks and/or your vehicle well but while there were certainly instances for drivers to let others pass, I'm surprised at how aggressive the driving can get at times. A couple times I thought to myself, "If the guy infront only loses it for a second he looks to be following too close to react in time."


you wont get flamed at all..

organizers discourage tailing, etc for that reason alone.. however, with the more experienced drivers, i think i can speak for most of them when i say that theyare okay with people tailing and they won't lose their composure and just give a point by..

which is the biggest difference with newbies- when you tail them, they will really overdrive and they're all over the track...

BUT.. i still enjoy getting as close as possible so that my friends sideview mirror is full of my car. :lol

[trollguy]

you are right R muff.sometimes if you see a big group of cars infront of you. my instructor sugguest to go into the pit. or as you mention slow down to create a gap

i read that as go to the pits and take a nap.

[white rocket]

Great videos everyone :). Really inspiring to get back out there. Lacking time and money :(. The Ridge looks like an amazing track.

[bcrdukes]

slowguy doesn't seem very slow at all. :suspicious:

[dared3vil0]

And boatcaptain doesn't drive a boat. :suspicious:



:troll: :lawl:

[boatcaptain]

a side view of a stock miata with topdown. it looks like a tiny boat to me :p. and it handles like a boat. floats around and sinks. if anyone have time.have a look at this forum
http://www.trackhq.com/forums/ lots of great info

[westopher]

@westopher where's the hole on 9?
Sorry it was turn 10. I was mistaken.
Found a couple photos taken of my car. This guy in the FR-s was a good driver. Fun to be behind as he had very good lines.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3839/14439201164_8a572cc495_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nZWFsd)DSC_2569 (https://flic.kr/p/nZWFsd) by asp125 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5499/14253677819_b5284cdea1_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nHxPPR)DSC_2484 (https://flic.kr/p/nHxPPR) by asp125 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Found them on the VCMC forum. Thanks to the photographer! If you click you can see more of his album of better cars and better drivers.:toot:

[kchan]

I'll probably get flamed for this but after looking through pretty much all the videos I've noticed that people seem to get pretty fired up when they encounter traffic due to a driver not letting them pass. Now I haven't been out there and from the looks of it most of you guys know the tracks and/or your vehicle well but while there were certainly instances for drivers to let others pass, I'm surprised at how aggressive the driving can get at times. A couple times I thought to myself, "If the guy infront only loses it for a second he looks to be following too close to react in time."

It must get really frustrating with the adrenaline going and someone slowing you down/killing your rhythm. Does this happen to you guys every session out or maybe just the arbitrary once or twice for the day? Also, why not just back off a little and let them get some distance so you can avoid something happening. Would slowing down smoothly to create some space create a risk for drivers behind you?

I look at the videos and the first thing that comes to mind is the ego of the driver in front being bruised because they don't want to see their "superior" car overtaken. I can understand the "David vs Goliath" aspect of the hunt and that correct track etiquette is they are supposed to let you pass but is it worth something bad happening pushing it like that?

I'm not saying you guys can't handle yor stories, for all I know people were driving at 7-8/10s their limit. I lack experience and don't know my car or the tracks so my gauge of the speed may be completely off. Everything I saw was really impressive and looks way faster than I have the balls to push my car.

wont get flamed at all but just a little explanation,

cant say for all drivers, but most of us that are posting here we may get in the heat of the moment by: swearing, giving the finger, tailing etc

but we arent actually taking it seriously to the heart, its just the heat of the moment

mind you the video you were watching was in Group A - meaning anywhere can be a passing zone so long theres a point by

in the other videos (mine + boatcaptain + ilvtofu) where we are in Groups B and C - there are only certain passing zones you will see that we do almost the same but there is actually a lot more room than you see in the videos

[ilvtofu]

Fiesta ST Ridge Motorsports Park - Stuck Behind GTR Inside (06-14-14) - YouTube start around 12 min mark
From a higher angle it doesn't look as aggressive, my car has a very upright seating position so you can see the distance between yourself and the car in front of you pretty clearly.

I just found this other video on my other phone which is more indicative of a typical C-group session, people waving each other by in the passing zones and not so much tailgating
Fiesta ST Ridge Motorsports Park - Morning Session (06-14-14) - YouTube

[you!]

Don't sign up for Group A (open passing left/right) if you can't even check your mirrors or know when a car is running faster then you that is behind you. Might as well stay in Group B.


stuck behind a 911 turbo - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPFZ_TkDdjg)


did u run on the 14th or 16th?

i ran yesterday and got a vid of 2 crashes on my cam lol

[trollguy]

he attended on the 14th

[boatcaptain]

did u run on the 14th or 16th?

i ran yesterday and got a vid of 2 crashes on my cam lol

there were 2 crash in vcmc?? hope the driver is okay

[!Kodamu]

Just did a mashup of me and kchan driving on sat.


FFD Lotus Exige - 1_54 session by Alex Ho vs. FFD Motorsport - Lotus Exige S - Ridge Motorsport Park - 1_57 session by VJ Kodamu | YouTube Doubler | Mashup Helper (http://youtubedoubler.com/cJ2E)


kchan is learning fast

[boatcaptain]

what ever monkey drive.goin below 2min mark now!!

[kchan]

cant wait for next track day to get that 1:54:xx lap :hotbaby:

[FRStan]

Anyone have links to albums for the June 14th event? Looking for pics of my FRS and buddy's EK :)

[trollguy]

I emailed Tom, he said he'll send an email with the links from the photographer! :)

[westopher]

did u run on the 14th or 16th?

i ran yesterday and got a vid of 2 crashes on my cam lol
Was it in the last 2 sessions? I saw a jdm wrx go off the track, but it was just a light off into the gravel.

[bcrdukes]

Track junkies - Any of you guys hitting up The Ridge on the following dates?

- Wednesday, July 30 (PCA Driver Education)
- Thursday, July 31 (Turn 2 Lapping Day)

:)

[trollguy]

I may consider July 31 as I'm not sure if I can attend Aug 16 anymore

[Noran]

^RS track day?
I'm down :fullofwin:

[westopher]

I'm out for july, got too much stuff going on thats costing me many monies.:okay:
WTT: DP motorsport supercups for track days. "mint condition"

[dared3vil0]

^ Going August 16th?

[underscore]

Track junkies - Any of you guys hitting up The Ridge on the following dates?

- Wednesday, July 30 (PCA Driver Education)
- Thursday, July 31 (Turn 2 Lapping Day)

:)

I'm aiming for July 18 with HoD but it's not looking good.

[trollguy]

^ Going August 16th?

Just a PSA - Group C (newbs) is full already.. :lol:

[duy-]

so this one subaru legacy decided to start a train every single heat... just absolutely refused to point by. he probably wasnt signed off to solo but decided to anyways... at one point he made eye contact with me in the rear view mirror... gave me a "sup"

Sunday morning drive - YouTube

[the_law82]

I was the red FRS in C group that showed up in tofu's videos.

It was my first time at the ridge and second time on the track so I created a bit of traffic in the earlier sessions. However, the instructor helped A LOT. By the end of the day I was way more confident and not causing traffic jams anymore. I was even keeping up with the GTR at one point, but then again, he was crawling through the corners.

Can't wait till the next one! I had a blast and finally getting the hang of it.

I am also bone stock with upgraded brake pads and brake fluid.

[dared3vil0]

Just a PSA - Group C (newbs) is full already.. :lol:

Well there goes that idea. :okay:

[you!]

Was it in the last 2 sessions? I saw a jdm wrx go off the track, but it was just a light off into the gravel.

yep the last 2
there were 2 white jdm wrx, 1 version 4 and 1 version 5
i was driving the v4 with yellow fogs, the guy that got stuck at the gravel was the v5.. we both ran on the same run group

i talked to him about it and apparently he hesitated and had second thoughts about what he wanted to do as he approached the corkscrew and by the time he made up his mind it was already too late, his brakes locked and went off course... good thing there were no damages to his mint v5

[you!]

there were 2 crash in vcmc?? hope the driver is okay

more than 2 actually
during the last run that i did i got footage of a silver miata and white jdm wrx going off course but no car damages i believe.. the miata spun out right infront of me

then at the end of the day near 4pm the track shut down as this kit car spun out and caught fire

[trollguy]

Well there goes that idea. :okay:

its funny cause kchan posted for ppl to sign up earlier this week..... and just like that it was filled up :lol:

however, a little bird told me that there may be a Ridge day in the works (for this season) to be organized by a local shop and wheel vendor.............. if i hear more, i will pass on the good word

[boatcaptain]

can't wait to babysit or dogsit and cook at the track since im not allow to be on the track or ride along anymore :(.

great article from moto iq
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/3519/DRIVER-DEVELOPMENT-Car-Control.aspx

[dared3vil0]

^ Why not?

[!Kodamu]

Everycar that he sat in either spun on course or flew off course

[boatcaptain]

im sorry im a heavy person.throwin the car's balance off.

awesome video by gary chan

http://youtu.be/KWIcpPIMw4Q

[Dinan3]

My s2k doesn't have a roll bar, just stock roll hoop. Is there a high risk of roll over when going off course on this track (Ridge)?

[boatcaptain]

compare to pacific raceway.ridge is quite safe.when you wear your helmet.is the top of your helmet below the stock roll hoop?

[ilvtofu]

Some pictures from June 14th of some people I think are on here. Pics were uploaded in a lower res but high res is available I just need to bug my dad for them.

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10462472_10152289327277912_1280619481246781812_n.j pg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10384745_10152289383447912_8417469353034775777_n.j pg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10388119_10152290798637912_766969866959874640_n.jp g
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/923417_10152290798687912_1260332468003512796_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10351332_10152290798772912_1431326775461500022_n.j pg

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[trollguy]

LOL @ last pic of passenger in the exige

[!Kodamu]

The photographer updated with more pics from June 14th


http://www.adamhoseyphoto.com/Events/Turn%202%20061414/Group%20A/thumbs/Turn%202_0839.jpg

http://www.adamhoseyphoto.com/Events/Turn%202%20061414/Group%20A/thumbs/Turn%202_0874.jpg

[Dinan3]

compare to pacific raceway.ridge is quite safe.when you wear your helmet.is the top of your helmet below the stock roll hoop?

Thanks! My helmet should be just below the roll hoop. I do have a hardtop that should help a bit.

[dared3vil0]

Slowguy might be able to get me a spot on the September 8th day! :alonehappy: :fullofwin:

[boatcaptain]

slowguy didnt invite me :(

[mb_]

BMWCCA PSR HPDE @ THE RIDGE info on Sep 13, 2014 (704597) | MotorsportReg.com (http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/bmwcca-psr-hpde-ridge-pacific-raceways-bmw-cca-puget-sound-704597#.U6c0efldWDl)

Anyone going to this? So far, looks like the only day I can go out to pop my track cherry :(

[westopher]

Fuck, signed up, and already had to cancel. First wedding anniversary. Don't want to get divorced lol.

[bcrdukes]

Fuck, signed up, and already had to cancel. First wedding anniversary. Don't want to get divorced lol.

Take wife to track day. :accepted: :fuckyea:

[westopher]

I might take her to chicago to see riotfest that weekend instead, which I'd rather be doing as well haha.

[trollguy]

happy wife happy life lol

[Dinan3]

BMWCCA PSR HPDE @ THE RIDGE info on Sep 13, 2014 (704597) | MotorsportReg.com (http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/bmwcca-psr-hpde-ridge-pacific-raceways-bmw-cca-puget-sound-704597#.U6c0efldWDl)

Anyone going to this? So far, looks like the only day I can go out to pop my track cherry :(
If this club doesn't require roll bar, then I might be interested as well since I cannot do weekday Ridge because of work.

[duy-]

BMWCCA PSR HPDE @ THE RIDGE info on Sep 13, 2014 (704597) | MotorsportReg.com (http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/bmwcca-psr-hpde-ridge-pacific-raceways-bmw-cca-puget-sound-704597#.U6c0efldWDl)

Anyone going to this? So far, looks like the only day I can go out to pop my track cherry :(

doesnt look like thats possible dude, they dont want any track virgins there. do it at mission first, sign up for the PDC / Morrisport / UBCscc / VCMC mailing list

[mb_]

If this club doesn't require roll bar, then I might be interested as well since I cannot do weekday Ridge because of work.

Dat probation period :okay:


Roll call for Auto X this Sunday! Who's going?

[threezero]

Anybody records their rans with an iOS device?

Going to order the mobius but for now i want to use my phone to record my rans. I see online that people are able to overlap their video with information like speed g force and even a minimap of the course. is this something that can be accomplish with an iPhone app? any recommendation for apps and windshield mounts?


For those app that overlay map information how do they know what the track of the day is if you autox? I have seen autox minimap on ppl's video overlay so i know its possible

[boatcaptain]

i use harry laptimer for my iphone. i duno if it will record runs for autox

[Energy]

Dat probation period :okay:


Roll call for Auto X this Sunday! Who's going?

In!

[westopher]

Wish my car moved right now. :QQ:

[Traum]

Oh no! What happened?

[westopher]

Thats the worst part! I have no idea! Major #6 misfire. Coils and plugs are ruled out. Car smells really rich. Thinking my fuel injector took a shit. Compression test this weekend and swapping injectors around to see if it moves cylinders. My wife is going back home for a week and taking my dog, and now my car doesn't function. That means a week without everything I like.

[Traum]

Aww crap... I hope you'll have it figured out this weekend. Keep us posted!

[boatcaptain]

at least ur m3 didnt crap out on a track day

[dared3vil0]

Thats the worst part! I have no idea! Major #6 misfire. Coils and plugs are ruled out. Car smells really rich. Thinking my fuel injector took a shit. Compression test this weekend and swapping injectors around to see if it moves cylinders. My wife is going back home for a week and taking my dog, and now my car doesn't function. That means a week without everything I like.

Good luck... Have you considered just dumping it at a shop to have it fixed quickly enough to enjoy the wifey-free time? :troll:




:)

[mb_]

Good luck with the car westopher. Hope it's a quick fix!


In!

I'll look for your E92 tomorrow :fullofwin:

[Noran]

Dat probation period :okay:


Roll call for Auto X this Sunday! Who's going?

cheip cheeeip

[Energy]

Good luck with the car westopher. Hope it's a quick fix!




I'll look for your E92 tomorrow :fullofwin:

Haha I'll be there bright and early tomorrow morning. Here's hoping for some sun.