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manhunt in moncton Cops being shot
vitaminG
06-04-2014, 05:35 PM
wow this sounds crazy
Manhunt in Moncton: Unconfirmed reports RCMP officers shot | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/1374998/rcmp-officers-shot-in-moncton-reports/)
https://twitter.com/RCMPNB/status/474359408584314880
Yodamaster
06-04-2014, 05:48 PM
http://www.revscene.net/forums/564868-shootings-thread.html
BrRsn
06-04-2014, 06:11 PM
Deng .. he's got a shotgun, and 2 AR's? Hard to tell, but looks like he's got 3 guns on him.
3 confirmed dead so far (what another newscast said)
https://twitter.com/PatHemsworth/status/474356870686461953/photo/1
back view:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpVBD2JIAAA8lkq.jpg
tmc22
06-04-2014, 06:17 PM
^ that is way too close for comfort
If you never grew up in a bad neighborhood, you tend not to run away from windows when you hear shots...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152499750831419&set=vb.691706418&type=2&theater
Harvey Specter
06-04-2014, 06:23 PM
Sounds like a ambush if he manged to kill 3 cops and injure 2 without a single cop taking a single shot at the shooter.
StylinRed
06-04-2014, 06:48 PM
Just heard about this, can't imagine that something like that would happen there, wonder what his reasoning is...
I can't help but get the impression that he is somehow inspired by Rambo...
http://imxo.in.ua/storage/medias/2013/07/16/16/123123123123.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/btiXU.jpg
looks like he even got the same hairstyle
jaguar604
06-04-2014, 06:53 PM
Rambo didn't kill any cops.
hchang
06-04-2014, 07:08 PM
That's fucked up nobody deserves to die but killing somebody's one thing, killing a police officer who's just doing their job and feeding their family is something on another level.
Fuck this pisses me off
tiger_handheld
06-04-2014, 07:26 PM
http://underprivilegedmedianetwork.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/ww-m2nt1l_3lln2ss.png?w=545
called it.
RecklessNS
06-04-2014, 07:49 PM
Raw video: Witness sees cop shot in Moncton | Watch News Videos Online (http://globalnews.ca/video/1375315/raw-video-witness-sees-cop-shot-in-Moncton)
holi shet
vitaminG
06-04-2014, 09:00 PM
http://underprivilegedmedianetwork.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/ww-m2nt1l_3lln2ss.png?w=545
called it.
calgary stabbing spree and berkely shooter were both half asian. Georgia tech guy was fully asian. Where do they fit in? and when is the last time a black person has gone on a mass shooting spree?
unrelated but what would happen if you saw the moncton guy on your street and just shot him from your window? would you get charged? get a medal?
tonyzoomzoom
06-04-2014, 09:01 PM
are these people stupid or something? There's gunshots being fired and you want to stick your head by the window to watch?
Mr.Money
06-04-2014, 09:02 PM
holy fuck that was crazy... :s disgusting how a man could do that & be okay with himself.
edit: looks like the gunman was hiding somewhere the police officer got ambushed.....scary shit when he thought he had cover,but the guy was Hiding somewhere.
StylinRed
06-04-2014, 09:41 PM
Rambo didn't kill any cops.
rambo 1 he did no? when the cops harass him and try to kill him?
noclue
06-04-2014, 09:45 PM
Heard the army got sent in, dude got 6 stars.
If he's hiding in the forest won't it be easy to find him with an infrared camera?
RIP RCMP, I think this is the second worst cop killing after the one in Alberta long time ago.
Harvey Specter
06-04-2014, 09:46 PM
His FB page;
https://www.facebook.com/justin.bourque.5682
StylinRed
06-04-2014, 09:55 PM
His FB page;
https://www.facebook.com/justin.bourque.5682
wow, he clearly has a great deal of hate for the police and government
and he's quoting/supporting/defending american gun right laws as if he wasn't canadian or in canada... :crazy2:
& he's a conspiracy theorist has posts about the Rothschilds etc.
jaguar604
06-04-2014, 10:14 PM
rambo 1 he did no? when the cops harass him and try to kill him?
Nope. The only death is the guy that falls accidentally out of the helicopter.
Raw video: Witness sees cop shot in Moncton | Watch News Videos Online (http://globalnews.ca/video/1375315/raw-video-witness-sees-cop-shot-in-Moncton)
holi shet
http://i.imgur.com/N0vBRnN.gif
You don't remember Chris
Dorner? Smh.
and when is the last time a black person has gone on a mass shooting spree
EmperorIS
06-04-2014, 10:37 PM
I guess that that new prostitution law unveiled day threw him over the edge.
vitaminG
06-04-2014, 10:40 PM
^ Ya I forgot, DC sniper too
Yodamaster
06-04-2014, 10:44 PM
Deng .. he's got a shotgun, and 2 AR's? Hard to tell, but looks like he's got 3 guns on him.
3 confirmed dead so far (what another newscast said)
https://twitter.com/PatHemsworth/status/474356870686461953/photo/1
back view:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpVBD2JIAAA8lkq.jpg
He has one shotgun with an AR15 style stock, and what looks like some sort of battle rifle (M14 ish). He also has a bow/crossbow (reference quiver on back) and a knife. I don't think he'd be the type to simply surrender, he'll probably end up dead.
Don't know why I got failed, that is the appropriate thread for this kind of thing, and it's not locked.
^ Ya I forgot, DC sniper too
Can't forget Aaron Alexis, either...
falcon
06-04-2014, 10:46 PM
If that happened outside my house, and I saw cops getting shot and dropping I would grab my hunting rifle and put a few rounds through the guy. I know this is the internet and people talk tough, but I am serious... I would not hesitate.
BrRsn
06-04-2014, 10:53 PM
If that happened outside my house, and I saw cops getting shot and dropping I would grab my hunting rifle and put a few rounds through the guy. I know this is the internet and people talk tough, but I am serious... I would not hesitate.
i was talking to another RS-er about this -- if I was in america and I had a clearshot and no one else was home at my house, sure. If I did the same thing in Canada, I'd probably be arrested ... then again in the heat of the moment its a split second decision and you can't weigh out your options like that
Yodamaster
06-04-2014, 10:55 PM
If that happened outside my house, and I saw cops getting shot and dropping I would grab my hunting rifle and put a few rounds through the guy. I know this is the internet and people talk tough, but I am serious... I would not hesitate.
And be on the hook for murder? You'd be lucky if you weren't shot by the police after pulling a stunt like that. It's easy to imagine being the hero that lives to fight another day, but what's right and what is legal are two seperate things, regardless of whether you stop him from killing more people or not.
The only way that would be legal is if he entered your residence and threatened you with one of his firearms, you are then allowed to use an equal amount of force to stop him, but you will still be investigated after the fact. You will probably have your firearms license taken away along with your firearms, you fail your PAL if you show that you intend to use firearms for self defense.
I wish it weren't so, but it is.
Mr.Money
06-04-2014, 11:00 PM
If that happened outside my house, and I saw cops getting shot and dropping I would grab my hunting rifle and put a few rounds through the guy. I know this is the internet and people talk tough, but I am serious... I would not hesitate.
& have a GoPro Hero on the tip of your barrel :devil: Upload it up proof your innocent you were trying to save an officer.....Just joking.
Officers receiving fire from two separate locations, they'll start shooting back. Unless, you're on with the dispatch and they patch you through to the cops on the ground and they tell you to "take the shot" it's extremely dangerous to just take pot shots at an armed gunman without letting the authorities know who you are.
hchang
06-04-2014, 11:32 PM
If that happened outside my house, and I saw cops getting shot and dropping I would grab my hunting rifle and put a few rounds through the guy. I know this is the internet and people talk tough, but I am serious... I would not hesitate.
Unless your rifle is stored incorrectly by the time you put the pieces together the gunman would be long gone
Unless your rifle is stored incorrectly by the time you put the pieces together the gunman would be long gone
People say this but I'm not that certain.
You have a(n unrestricted) rifle that is in a case (optional) and has a trigger lock. If it's a combination lock, both these steps takes less than 15 seconds to uncase and take the lock off. Then you have your ammunition that is stored separately and that takes another 15 seconds to retrieve provided it isn't locked up.
All you need to do is load and you're ready to go. Albeit you may not be in the room and so you would need to get there and get ready but realistically, I doubt that it would take that much time for you to get ready should you actually want to. It easily takes less than 5 mins from start to finish.
ruthless
06-05-2014, 12:05 AM
People say this but I'm not that certain.
You have a(n unrestricted) rifle that is in a case (optional) and has a trigger lock. If it's a combination lock, both these steps takes less than 15 seconds to uncase and take the lock off. Then you have your ammunition that is stored separately and that takes another 15 seconds to retrieve provided it isn't locked up.
All you need to do is load and you're ready to go. Albeit you may not be in the room and so you would need to get there and get ready but realistically, I doubt that it would take that much time for you to get ready should you actually want to. It easily takes less than 5 mins from start to finish.
+1
You can have a restricted firearm(semi-auto pistol, AR-15, etc.) inside a safe without a trigger lock on it. You can also have loaded magazines in the same safe but they cannot be in the gun.
Therefore all you do is punch in the combo(digital keypad) on the safe, grab gun and magazines and you're ready to go.
With all that said it would be pretty dumb for you to try and take out a "perpetrator". The legal ramifications alone would be overwhelming for many.
start @ 2:28
Secure Storage of Restricted Firearms- Canada - YouTube
Harvey Specter
06-05-2014, 03:31 AM
What we know
7:20 PM calls made to the RCMP concerning a male with guns in the woods in the Hildegarde area.
24-year-old Justin Bourque, of Moncton (pic)
Suspect's Facebook Page
Three RCMP officers killed, two wounded
As of 11:40pm (local) It's believed the shooter is now in the Pinehurst subdivision area of Moncton. Residents are being told to stay indoors.
RCMP and police services responding from Fredericton, Saint John, Shediac, Nova Scotia, etc. Military also rumored to be responding.
Moncton Hospital under "Code Orange" Lockdown
Many parts of the city under various states of lockdown- Traffic limited or stopped in most of the north end.
CTV is reporting at least one civilian injured
[OFFICIAL] Moncton Shooting Thread : moncton (http://www.reddit.com/r/moncton/comments/27cl8d/official_moncton_shooting_thread/)
DragonChi
06-05-2014, 04:24 AM
So.. this guy is on the loose still..
Damn, thought they'd find this lunatic by now.
PeanutButter
06-05-2014, 07:19 AM
This is such terrible news. I got chills watching the video.
The police were clearly outgunned. 9mm's vs AR's at distance.
Does anyone have info on how the officers were shot? Were they ambushed or were they trying to negotiate with the gunman?
In regards to helping out the cops with your personal rifle, I wonder what the situation would be if you phoned 911 telling them you had a clear shot at the gunman. I wonder if they would patch you through to the commanding officer on the ground and if they would let you take the shot.
My heart is just broken for the families of the fallen officers.
murd0c
06-05-2014, 07:50 AM
in a situation like that the police would not be allowed to say take the shot.. You take it anyways and you know you wouldn't get charged and would be considered a hero.
The main issue is being able to handle killing another human, most people wouldn't be able to handle that which is it really worth it in the long run?
PeanutButter
06-05-2014, 07:59 AM
in a situation like that the police would not be allowed to say take the shot.. You take it anyways and you know you wouldn't get charged and would be considered a hero.
The main issue is being able to handle killing another human, most people wouldn't be able to handle that which is it really worth it in the long run?
Yeah, I guess you're right. They can't just let civilians start opening fire as they don't know what time of training or skill they have. The cops themselves could put themselves in danger.
I never thought about the aftermath of killing someone, good point. =
Yodamaster
06-05-2014, 08:12 AM
The police were clearly outgunned. 9mm's vs AR's at distance.
No AR, he might have been lucky with the first three officers, but now he's up against an arsenal he can't possibly hope to fight.
rageguy
06-05-2014, 08:51 AM
No AR, he might have been lucky with the first three officers, but now he's up against an arsenal he can't possibly hope to fight.
And so right now he should be in hiding mode, probably in some friend's house. After this dies down in a few weeks he will just leave the town. I don't think RCMP is doing house searches yet.
DragonChi
06-05-2014, 09:09 AM
The guy probably didn't give them any warning at all. Just pointed and shot. They were fighting a lunatic, they probably didn't see it coming at all.
vitaminG
06-05-2014, 10:04 AM
Looks like they might have found him
Police surround building in hunt for Moncton shooter: reports - The Globe and Mail (http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/witnesses-describe-terror-in-moncton-shooting-suspect-still-at-large/article18998875/?service=mobile)
PeanutButter
06-05-2014, 10:05 AM
The guy probably didn't give them any warning at all. Just pointed and shot. They were fighting a lunatic, they probably didn't see it coming at all.
If you watch the first video, you can hear the guy in the house saying something like, he's going to shoot them (cops). Which makes it seem like there was some sort of confrontation.
DragonChi
06-05-2014, 11:30 AM
Seconds before they got shot....
Imagine if he had a 30 clip mag.
Looks like they might have found him
Police surround building in hunt for Moncton shooter: reports - The Globe and Mail (http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/witnesses-describe-terror-in-moncton-shooting-suspect-still-at-large/article18998875/?service=mobile)
Nothing found in that building or home.
He is still out there.
falcon
06-05-2014, 11:34 AM
i was talking to another RS-er about this -- if I was in america and I had a clearshot and no one else was home at my house, sure. If I did the same thing in Canada, I'd probably be arrested ... then again in the heat of the moment its a split second decision and you can't weigh out your options like that
I would be OK dealing with the consequences. Given the circumstances, I doubt anything would happen. There would likely be charges and a trial but no conviction. I have too many RCMP friends and ex police officer friends to just stand there and watch something like that happen.
DragonChi
06-05-2014, 11:36 AM
RS fund to send falcon to moncton to hunt this guy down.
"That’s when an unmarked police car rolled up and a plainclothes police officer stepped out. He was wearing a flak vest. Ms. Bernatchez said he kept turning around because he didn’t know the direction of the shooter. That’s when family members noticed a shadow growing larger between two houses next door.
“We knew it was the shooter right away,” she said. “We banged on the windows to let the officer know. We yelled ‘turn around.’ Then there was a shot. The officer went down. He got shot in the neck.”
Despite his mortal wound, the officer managed to squeeze off two shots from his handgun as he fell to the ground, according to Ms. Bernatchez.
“He was still trying to get that shooter, but as soon as he hit the ground, he stopped moving.”"
from Police surround building in hunt for Moncton shooter: reports - The Globe and Mail
Neighbors didn't even know who it was at first. In real life, these kinds of things are a shit show. It's not like CS where enemies are clearly identified. If you shoot. what's stopping the police from thinking your the gunman and getting yourself shot.
falcon
06-05-2014, 11:36 AM
Unless your rifle is stored incorrectly by the time you put the pieces together the gunman would be long gone
I can take my bolt out of the safe, put it in my gun and load the magazine in less than 30 seconds.
Also, I would only consider this if all the cops were shot and lying there bleeding out. If they were there still active, taking shots or trying to talk the gunman down I wouldn't be stupid enough to do that. I'm strictly talking if they were shot, bleeding out... and no other cops in the vicinity and the gunman was advancing to say "finish the job" or whatever.
Yodamaster
06-05-2014, 11:56 AM
a 30 clip mag.
Say wot m8?
http://i.imgur.com/p7pXMXX.jpg?1
vitaminG
06-05-2014, 11:58 AM
If a civilian shot the guy, even if you got charged you'd opt for a jury trial and you'd probably never get convicted. Plus you'd never be able to buy yourself a beer in Moncton ever again.
DragonChi
06-05-2014, 12:00 PM
LOL. I'm an idiot: :derp:
A magazine with a 30 ammunition capacity.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/pt92-other-taurus-pistols/65430d1380567752-pt92-clip-fitment-clip-vs-mag2.jpg
I don't know what I'm talking about anymore. the article said that there was automatic burst fire from that night. Maybe he had a 30 round magazine.
Oh yea, while i'm digging my own grave. Fuck the police!
Oh right, no one says that when police do what they're supposed to do and protect the public. You don't see thugs and gangsters running into the streets to take this guy down. No sir. It's the police. RIP.
JaPoola
06-05-2014, 12:53 PM
LOL. I'm an idiot: :derp:
Oh yea, while i'm digging my own grave. Fuck the police!
Oh right, no one says when police do what they're supposed to do and protect the public. You don't see thugs and gangsters running into the streets to take this guy down. No sir. It's the police. RIP.
They're protecting themselves not the public. The guy is obviously going after police members, not random civilians. Notice how there's 3 dead and 2 wounded? They can't protect themselves, never mind the public.
But way to spout off stupid shit.
DragonChi
06-05-2014, 12:56 PM
Obviously, they were protecting themselves, by being there, hunted. Instead of abandoning their jobs and fleeing.
This is the internets! I get to be as stupid as I want :D
lowside67
06-05-2014, 01:11 PM
They're protecting themselves not the public. The guy is obviously going after police members, not random civilians. Notice how there's 3 dead and 2 wounded? They can't protect themselves, never mind the public.
But way to spout off stupid shit.
Speaking of stupid shit...
JaPoola
06-05-2014, 01:29 PM
Obviously, they were protecting themselves, by being there, hunted. Instead of abandoning their jobs and fleeing.
This is the internets! I get to be as stupid as I want :D
I don't think people who say "Fuck the police" mean literally kill the police. That's why I thought bringing that up is pretty stupid.
underscore
06-05-2014, 01:30 PM
Something important to remember.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10325376_10152170475805028_4113014383558614551_n.j pg
Hopefully the media focuses on the correct people but I doubt it.
Say wot m8?
http://i.imgur.com/p7pXMXX.jpg?1
I actually spat out my drink when I saw this.
I read the post and thought, well, that would be a weird looking mag and you posted this pic that looked almost identical to what I had in my mind.
Well done.
incubus
06-05-2014, 08:16 PM
Greater Moncton Area Emergency Services (http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/9077)
listening here some people are saying they have him in custody
read that he has a Chinese m305(m14) and shotguns
CharlesInCharge
06-05-2014, 08:33 PM
Police apprehend suspect in Moncton shootings
Police apprehend suspect in Moncton shootings - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/witnesses-describe-terror-in-moncton-shooting-suspect-still-at-large/article18998875/)
MindBomber
06-05-2014, 08:39 PM
The cowardly bitch didn't have it in him to off himself rather than being caught. Too bad. I'd rather he be dead than waste resources and time on him.
StylinRed
06-05-2014, 08:40 PM
Impressed it didn't end in a firefight
heard they found him in the basement of a building, maybe they caught him sleeping
quasi
06-05-2014, 08:42 PM
I thought where was no way they take him alive, he either gets shot or shoots himself. All he has to look forward to is 25 to life and for what? Moron, I hope he gets raped daily.
Dude is a cop killer.
He's going to be in for a lot of pain for the rest of his life.
CharlesInCharge
06-05-2014, 08:57 PM
This sounds like his voice
The Maple Snake Manifesto (Justin Bourque/Canadian Rambo)
The Maple Snake Manifesto (Justin Bourque/Canadian Rambo) - YouTube
"I have lite the fuse that will free the world"
Edit - his merchants reference maybe from The Merchant of Venice play by Shakespeare... which is about usury if I remember right.
Traum
06-05-2014, 09:08 PM
The guy is caught -- alive
Moncton shooting suspect arrested | News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2014/06/05/moncton-shooting-suspect-arrested/)
Spidey
06-05-2014, 09:15 PM
They're protecting themselves not the public. The guy is obviously going after police members, not random civilians. Notice how there's 3 dead and 2 wounded? They can't protect themselves, never mind the public.
But way to spout off stupid shit.
so when an active shooter went off in Seattle today, the Police were protecting themselves when they apprehended the guy? Also in every other active shooting in the last X amount of years where civilians were being targeted, the Police were protecting themselves right? Please don't call 911 next time you are getting your ass handed to you. I am sure your neighbours and bystanders will take care of you.
It's absolutely sickening that this asshole has a chance to be out in 25 years or less.
MindBomber
06-05-2014, 09:47 PM
It's absolutely sickening that this asshole has a chance to be out in 25 years or less.
The sentence is 25 years per conviction for murder, plus 10 to 25 years per conviction for attempted murder if a firearm is involved, so he's facing 125 years, ie. he's never getting out.
The_Situation
06-05-2014, 09:50 PM
Ban arrows
Traum
06-05-2014, 10:05 PM
The sentence is 25 years per conviction for murder, plus 10 to 25 years per conviction for attempted murder if a firearm is involved, so he's facing 125 years, ie. he's never getting out.
Getting out or not, the fact remains that this worthless piece of trash will go on to waste tens of thousands of the taxpayer's dollars in legal costs, and continue to waste our money for feeding him and keeping him alive in jail.
As I always say, it is cases like these that make me wish Canada practices the death penalty.
bcedhk
06-05-2014, 10:06 PM
This sounds like his voice
The Maple Snake Manifesto (Justin Bourque/Canadian Rambo)
The Maple Snake Manifesto (Justin Bourque/Canadian Rambo) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2i-vIlK1Qc&feature=youtu.be)
"I have lite the fuse that will free the world"
Edit - his merchants reference maybe from The Merchant of Venice play by Shakespeare... which is about usury if I remember right.
MGS1 Game Over! - YouTube
SNAKKKE SNAKKEEE, SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!
StylinRed
06-05-2014, 10:16 PM
This sounds like his voice
The Maple Snake Manifesto (Justin Bourque/Canadian Rambo)
The Maple Snake Manifesto (Justin Bourque/Canadian Rambo) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2i-vIlK1Qc&feature=youtu.be)
"I have lite the fuse that will free the world"
Edit - his merchants reference maybe from The Merchant of Venice play by Shakespeare... which is about usury if I remember right.
eh...kind of fishy...some youtuber posts a sound file he found on 4chan? it is the weapons thread but still
if confirmed it looks like he was inspired by rambo and solid snake :crazy2: guy is nuts
luckily police were able to bring him down before anymore casualties
hchang
06-05-2014, 10:46 PM
The cowardly bitch didn't have it in him to off himself rather than being caught. Too bad. I'd rather he be dead than waste resources and time on him.
Killing himself would be the more cowardly route IMO...
This way he'll deal with the consequences and experience pain
threezero
06-06-2014, 12:49 AM
The sentence is 25 years per conviction for murder, plus 10 to 25 years per conviction for attempted murder if a firearm is involved, so he's facing 125 years, ie. he's never getting out.
If I recall correctly canada does not stack sentence like USA. He will still get a chance to parole will he ever be allow is another question
Harvey Specter
06-06-2014, 01:27 AM
You can get "life" in prison but you're eligible for parole after 25 years so technically it's not a life sentence because you have a chance to be free.
Yodamaster
06-06-2014, 04:24 AM
Police apprehend suspect in Moncton shootings
Police apprehend suspect in Moncton shootings - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/witnesses-describe-terror-in-moncton-shooting-suspect-still-at-large/article18998875/)
I fucking knew the media would call that thing an "assault rifle", it's a goddamn M14, lol.
Anti-gun people gon anti-gun.
SkinnyPupp
06-06-2014, 04:32 AM
I fucking knew the media would call that thing an "assault rifle", it's a goddamn M14, lol.
Anti-gun people gon anti-gun.
Little do they know, the real category of "Battle Rifle" sounds even scarier.
fsy82
06-06-2014, 08:39 AM
I wish they would have killed this guy. He's ruined three families in a day for no apparent reason. One of the officers had a young son and was expecting another child. Really sad.
underscore
06-06-2014, 09:54 AM
I have immense respect for the officers that arrested him, I can't imagine the amount of restraint required to not shoot that fuckhead.
hchang
06-06-2014, 10:16 AM
I have immense respect for the officers that arrested him, I can't imagine the amount of restraint required to not shoot that fuckhead.
Hopefully they "accidentally" hit his head while putting him into the police cruiser, and hopefully he "tripped" multiple times at the station.
Ball.J.Inder
06-06-2014, 12:53 PM
And hopefully a bunch of native prison gang members "accidentally" stick their penises up his butt in prison.
We have to support this piece of shit while he rots in prison.
A $0.25 bullet would have saved tax payers a whole lot of money (lawyers, court fees, keeping him in prision).
In clear cut cases like this, I support the death penalty.
SpeedStars
06-06-2014, 11:30 PM
^ it's actually more than just .25cents for the death penalty. The paperwork and etc amounts to quite a large amount. I'll find out which source I found tomorrow (looked up the death penalty vs life in prison), way too tired today.
Edit: nvm I found something http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty. The stats are for the states since Canada has abolished capital punishment for quite some time to be relevant
CharlesInCharge
06-06-2014, 11:54 PM
The system makes money off cheap prisoner labour... unless the prisoner decides to stay locked in his/her cell all day which I doubt humans will, because that will make one crazy if not crazier.
To crunch some numbers, a welfare recipient gets what $250 a month for food? Thats $3000 a year.
A percentage of that figure gets divided up by stores who need to make profits selling their products and a further cut the government takes in on every item for tax.
So somewhere around $2000 or much less for the whole sale food the prison system buys and feeds the inmates.
Does feeding, heat and a handful of guards cost that much per person? No.
If I can own a slave for $5000 a year, I can probably overturn his labour to make me $40-60 thousand.
Traum
06-07-2014, 12:32 AM
^^ Only $5k a year per inmate? Are you out of your mind? If you are gonna bs, at least do some homework first, you know?
This article from Nov 2013:
Canada?s prison population at all-time high - CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada-s-prison-population-at-all-time-high-1.2440039)
pegs a male prisoner to cost an average of $110k/year, while a female inmate costs a little less than $55k.
Dammit it, man. I don't even make $55k a year, and I work my a$$ off at the office...
^ it's actually more than just .25cents for the death penalty. The paperwork and etc amounts to quite a large amount. I'll find out which source I found tomorrow (looked up the death penalty vs life in prison), way too tired today.
Edit: nvm I found something Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty). The stats are for the states since Canada has abolished capital punishment for quite some time to be relevant
I didn't say $0.25 for the death penalty, I said $0.25 for the bullet so we don't have to deal with the guy for the next 50+ years.
CharlesInCharge
06-07-2014, 12:36 AM
@Traum
Are inmates given their own Ferrari's to drive for courtyard time?
These figures are bullshit.
multicartual
06-07-2014, 04:23 AM
Dammit it, man. I don't even make $55k a year, and I work my a$$ off at the office...
Start a porn site!!!
Traum
06-07-2014, 08:50 AM
@Traum
Are inmates given their own Ferrari's to drive for courtyard time?
These figures are bullshit.
CiC, don't play dumb with me now. Certainly you can fathom a reasonable guess as to why it costs that much to house an inmate?
It doesn't specifically say in the article how the $110k / $55k figures are calculated, but it does hint at a lot of reasons for those costs.
From the stuff that I've read in the past, typically these calculations are arrived at by tallying the total operating costs of the correctional facilities, and dividing it out by the number of inmates. This means the building costs, maintenance and prison operating costs, the costs of correctional officers, medical staff, general staff costs to keep the whole place and the whole system running, training / re-integration programs for the inmates, etc. etc.
Prisons / correctional facilities are anything but cheap.
We have to support this piece of shit while he rots in prison.
A $0.25 bullet would have saved tax payers a whole lot of money (lawyers, court fees, keeping him in prision).
In clear cut cases like this, I support the death penalty.
I'd even go one step further and have an open shoot. People pay to shoot at this guy. At least the government can make a few a bucks out of this cunt.
Presto
08-08-2014, 11:27 AM
Justin Bourque pleads guilty.
MONCTON, NB (NEWS1130) – (http://www.news1130.com/2014/08/08/justin-bourque-pleads-guilty-to-murder-attempted-murder-charges-in-moncton-shootings/) A New Brunswick man has pleaded guilty to three first-degree murder charges in the fatal shootings of three RCMP officers in Moncton.
Justin Bourque also pleaded guilty to two counts of attempted murder in the Court of Queen’s Bench today.
The 24-year-old calmly told the judge “I plead guilty” or replied “guilty” when asked for his plea on each charge.
His case returns to court Oct. 27 to file victim impact statements and pre-sentencing documents.
Bourque was recently found competent and mentally fit to stand trial after undergoing a psychiatric assessment. Members of his family declined comment as they left court.
Supt. Marlene Snowman, the RCMP’s top officer in the detachment responsible for Moncton, also refused comment after the pleas were entered.
Constables Dave Ross, Fabrice Gevaudan and Douglas Larche were killed after responding to a report of a man with firearms in a residential neighbourhood in the northwest area of Moncton on June 4.
Constables Eric Dubois and Darlene Goguen were wounded and later released from hospital.
Bourque was arrested following a manhunt that spanned 30 hours and brought the city of 69,000 to a virtual standstill.
Traum
08-08-2014, 11:41 AM
I wonder how much of a difference his sentencing will be by pleading guilty. The only major benefit I see with the guilty plead is that our court system will end up spending less time (and therefore spending less money) than if he had tried to fight something off.
RRxtar
08-08-2014, 11:43 AM
Unreal. Not very often do they catch the guy before they kills themselves, cops not kill them, and then the guy be mentally competent and fit to stand trial, and then plead guilty!
murd0c
08-08-2014, 11:44 AM
It's Canada so he will prob be out in 15-20 when he should be locked up forever
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