[StylinRed]

:suspicious: another one


okay so a male and female shoot at 2 officers having lunch and kill them then go into a walmart next door and kill another person

the female shooter then shoots her male companion, killing him, and she then commits suicide

BBC News - Five dead in Las Vegas shootings (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/27757928)

Five dead in Las Vegas shootings

Two people have shot and killed two police officers in the US city of Las Vegas, before killing another person and then shooting themselves.

The incident began in a pizza cafe at 11:30 (18:30 GMT) on Sunday, when a man and a woman shot at the two officers who were having lunch.

They then entered a Walmart shop nearby and shot one person dead, before committing suicide.

Police say there are no other suspects in the shooting.

'Tragic day'
The woman shot her male companion before turning the gun on herself, Sheriff Doug Gillespie of the Las Vegas Metro Police Department said at a news conference.

There was no obvious motive for the shootings.

However, eyewitnesses said the attackers shouted "This is a revolution" as they entered Cici Pizza and shot the police officers.

"I think in any case where people are ambushed and shot is upsetting to the public," police spokesman Larry Hadfield told the Associated Press.

"We don't know anything about the suspects yet and are trying to learn more."

Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval later said he was devastated by the murders of the two police officers - Alyn Beck, 42, and Igor Soldo, 32 - and an innocent bystander.

One of the officers reportedly managed to return fire in the cafe, and there was a further exchange of fire between police and the suspects in Walmart.

"It's a tragic day," Sheriff Gillespie said.

"We have a community to protect, we will do it with our heads held high."

[JSALES]

Another one? Good job America. RIP to the officers.

[EmperorIS]

Can't let Canada beat them at their own game.

[murd0c]

Gun's don't kill people, stupid people with guns do!!

[Manic!]

The attackers then headed to a nearby Walmart store, exchanging gunfire with and ultimately killing a civilian who was carrying a concealed weapon.

What does the NRA say about good guys with guns?

also
Tacoma Mall shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


During the course of the shooting, Brendan (Dan) McKown, a legally armed citizen, intervened. McKown drew his 9mm CZ pistol and verbally commanded Maldonado to put down his gun. Maldonado's response was to fire on McKown, striking him once in the leg and four times in the torso, damaging McKown's spine and leaving him paralyzed. In addition to McKown, five other people were shot but not seriously injured, and a seventh person received a non-gunshot injury. At least one other person in the mall at the time also pulled a gun on Maldonado, but did not fire for fear of hitting innocent bystanders.[1]

[Mr.Money]

^^^....the difference between a cold hearted trained killer & your uncle Bob with only thing shooting was a non-moving target on the range.

in other words.....somebody who doesn't give a shit if he dies & Somebody under pressure about to fold.
it's like throwing girl scouts in the iraq war.

[multicartual]

Damn, is it inevitable for these mass shootings to happen daily?

[bcrdukes]

Las Vegas isn't as pretty as the city makes it out to be. It's a very sad place, riddled with poverty, crime, mental illness, and unemployment.

Take a stroll beyond The Strip and Downtown Las Vegas. It's a scary place.

[multicartual]

Take a stroll beyond The Strip and Downtown Las Vegas.


Haha why would you want to?!

[Nicotine]

Las Vegas isn't as pretty as the city makes it out to be. It's a very sad place, riddled with poverty, crime, mental illness, and unemployment.

Take a stroll beyond The Strip and Downtown Las Vegas. It's a scary place.

same thing can be said about any city.
even vancouver

[bcrdukes]

same thing can be said about any city.
even vancouver

I don't think you understand. Anyone can make a general and blanket statement upon any city. It's really easy. And I agree, Vancouver definitely has it's problems.

The difference is the problem in Las Vegas is entirely different and a whole different ball park. People who need or want help don't really have the resources available to them.

[HonestTea]

Holy fuck!

Another one?!

[tiger_handheld]

Think the "revolution" is related to Moncton?

[kiwee]

An hour ago in Vancouver

Female shot multiple times at gas station on East Hastings & Vernon Drive (http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/06/shooting-gas-station-east-hastings/)

[Hondaracer]

"controlling" 300 million guns dont work

[Akinari]

Man I turn on the news and read the newspapers it's like shooting after shooting after shooting :okay:

[evlee]

Las Vegas isn't as pretty as the city makes it out to be. It's a very sad place, riddled with poverty, crime, mental illness, and unemployment.

Take a stroll beyond The Strip and Downtown Las Vegas. It's a scary place.

i have a relative who works at a hotel there, good pay and killer tip $$$. he lives 10 mins away from the strip and the neighbourhood he lives in reminds me of a walk thru walley ring road.

[multicartual]

Man I turn on the news and read the newspapers it's like shooting after shooting after shooting :okay:


Modern life is like paradise or hell for most people


Hmmm sounds better when I write "Modern life; paradise for a few, hell for many!"

[Manic!]

"controlling" 300 million guns dont work

Neither does thinking a gun will keep you and the ones around you safe.

[knight604]

Las vegas is bad if you arent on the strip... so bad.

[320icar]

I'm in Vegas next weekend...sigh...

[fliptuner]

Las Vegas isn't as pretty as the city makes it out to be. It's a very sad place, riddled with poverty, crime, mental illness, and unemployment.

Take a stroll beyond The Strip and Downtown Las Vegas. It's a scary place.

I have a habit of checking out places where the locals hang out, whenever I travel. Off the strip and tourist areas, Vegas is pretty dismal.

[Special K]

I agree with bcrdukes and everyone else who share the same.

Las Vegas outside the strip is very scary. We rented a car and went to Walmart just 5-10 kms outside the strip. It's definitely a different experience. And it's not a welcoming one.

[multicartual]

It's not that scary guys



Scary is buying blow in the middle of the night in San Jose, Costa Rica with gunfire going off randomly all around you


hahaha

[CharlesInCharge]

The Veges shooters
Jerad Miller: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | HEAVY (http://heavy.com/news/2014/06/jerad-amanda-miller-las-vegas-police-shooting/)
https://www.facebook.com/jerad.miller.1/photos

Someone knew them in the following forum
Breaking, mass shootin:las vegas wal mart (http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Breaking-mass-shootin-las-vegas-wal-mart?page=1)

[pastarocket]

bcrdukes is spot on with his comments about life in Vegas outside of the strip and downtown area.

Las Vegas, or the entire Nevada state, has one of the worst crime rates in America (car theft, armed robbery, aggravated assault):

Which States Have the Highest Crime Rates (http://www.itsgov.com/which-states-have-the-highest-crime-rates.html)

One of my relatives has a brother who works as a nurse in a Vegas hospital.

Guess what is the most common type of patient cases that you would see in the emergency room?

Gunshot wounds to patients almost every day.

Stay out of the Vegas suburbs! :heckno:

[underscore]

Who gives a flying fuck who they were. The scuma re dead, let them rot. I said this in the Moncton thread and I'll say it here, never remember the shooters name, only the fallen.

[Hondaracer]

They didn't even release the victims names until the day after he was caught. Not gonna happen in these days of media, the shooter will always get the coverage.

Everyone remembers the faces or names of the shooter, you remember one face or name of the boston bombings or the kids from the elementary school? No because media just glosses over that shit

[SoNaRWaVe]

^ as sad as this sounds, people dig negative stuff. thats the juicy entertaining stuff. who would read or watch the media when its all happy and dandy.

in other news, a rainbow is occurring in Italy right now. next up, a man helps a cat and her kittens cross the street.

[multicartual]

^ as sad as this sounds, people dig negative stuff. thats the juicy entertaining stuff. who would read or watch the media when its all happy and dandy.

in other news, a rainbow is occurring in Italy right now. next up, a man helps a cat and her kittens cross the street.


The news is mostly useless bullshit irrelevant to 99% of our lives that is used to beam depression and propaganda directly into your brain; controlling who you vote for and what to spend money on.

[underscore]

They didn't even release the victims names until the day after he was caught. Not gonna happen in these days of media, the shooter will always get the coverage.

Everyone remembers the faces or names of the shooter, you remember one face or name of the boston bombings or the kids from the elementary school? No because media just glosses over that shit

Probably because stupid people go jumping on the shooters facebook page and shit. If people would ignore the media that choose to focus on the shooters/bombers/whatevers then the media would stop focusing on them and the people who do things like this for the attention and fame would have no reason to do it.

[Hondaracer]

Media basically only reports the fucked up/scary/bias news so it's a huge long shot, but If they all got together and agreed to not report a shooters name it probably would have an effect, although social media would probably ruin any sort of agreement like that

[StylinRed]

The shooters and videos of their road trip to Vegas are on CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/10/justice/las-vegas-shooting/

They were part of the group of Militia protecting Bundy and his farm but were kicked out of the group because they were too crazy


youtube 'Jerad Miller' for a bunch of his videos....here's one

Las Vegas Cop Killer Jerad Miller "Joker for President" Manifesto - YouTube

bcrdukes is spot on with his comments about life in Vegas outside of the strip and downtown area.
Las Vegas, or the entire Nevada state, has one of the worst crime rates in America (car theft, armed robbery, aggravated assault):

Which States Have the Highest Crime Rates (http://www.itsgov.com/which-states-have-the-highest-crime-rates.html)



I knew DC was bad.... but wow

http://www.itsgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/violentcrimes.png

[underscore]

Media basically only reports the fucked up/scary/bias news so it's a huge long shot, but If they all got together and agreed to not report a shooters name it probably would have an effect, although social media would probably ruin any sort of agreement like that

They've done it once, when John Lennon was killed. The guy did it just to be famous for being the guy that killed John Lennon, so he got a collective "fuck you" and nobody reported his name.

[StylinRed]

Who gives a flying fuck who they were. The scuma re dead, let them rot. I said this in the Moncton thread and I'll say it here, never remember the shooters name, only the fallen.

you have to know who they were and what they were about...without knowing you wouldn't be able to watch for, understand why, and ultimately prevent these things from happening in the future

to simply close your eyes and keep on trucking is idiotic

[will068]

Gun's don't kill people, stupid people with guns do!!


Thus, you make strict gun laws that help prevent stupid people from accessing them.

Weird how the majority of Americans prefer stricter gun laws, yet nothing has changed.

[underscore]

you have to know who they were and what they were about...without knowing you wouldn't be able to watch for, understand why, and ultimately prevent these things from happening in the future

to simply close your eyes and keep on trucking is idiotic

I'm not closing my eyes you idiot, I'm raising a middle finger to cowards like these and focusing on the victims.

I have to know? I'm not an expert on human psyche or behaviour, so I don't need to know shit, leave that to experts who understand such things not the general public. And even then, you can understand "why" without knowing the specifics of the "who". If you want to prevent people from killing just to be famous or draw attention to some bs cause then we need to stop giving attention to those that do this.

[StylinRed]

right again... lets close our eyes to the issue and hope someone else is dealing with it... that sort of thought perpetuates a lot of the worlds problems because people choose to ignore it and come up with some lame reasoning as to why they don't give a damn

i can understand not wanting to give a pedestal to a criminal but researching them isn't the same thing

[underscore]

Researching them? To what end? What possible insight can the general public provide? None whatsoever, the best keyboard superstars are going to do is give these scum exactly what they wanted, attention. Just because you want something to be done doesn't mean you should jump in and do it yourself, you should be pushing for experts in such fields to be looking into these questions.

By all means if you do want to learn from it then do so, but you can do so without their name or the name of their cause receiving attention.

[StylinRed]

"what possible insight can the general public provide?" a plethora, and past cases have shown this...that was really odd to suggest none whatsoever.
To assume none whatsoever is just another lame attempt at supporting the 'i don't give a damn' mindset.

Also evidence, witnesses, and victims have come forward due to suspects and their lives being disseminated in the public eye.

And like you say so yourself the public should be 'pushing for experts in such fields to be looking into these questions' without attention of these cases and the suspects in the public eye the public wouldn't even be compelled to call for action/change

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

the true victims are the ones that become these "monsters".

they're a byproduct of their environment, a by product of us. we made them. they didn't just come outta no where.

cause and effect... we are the cause, they are the effect.


think of it like cancer.... instead of weeping over the cells cancer consumes... we should be focusing on why this cancer even exists... where it came from... why it came out.

not concentrating on how we can fight and manipulate the cancer... but how we can prevent more from appearing.

treat the body like shit, and cancer will always rear its ugly head. There's something wrong with society, and we're looking the wrong way.

[underscore]

"what possible insight can the general public provide?" a plethora, and past cases have shown this...that was really odd to suggest none whatsoever.
To assume none whatsoever is just another lame attempt at supporting the 'i don't give a damn' mindset.

Also evidence, witnesses, and victims have come forward due to suspects and their lives being disseminated in the public eye.

And like you say so yourself the public should be 'pushing for experts in such fields to be looking into these questions' without attention of these cases and the suspects in the public eye the public wouldn't even be compelled to call for action/change

A few people (local to the event might I add) out of millions is pretty damn close to none. Also stop assuming you know the mindset I have, because you're not even fucking close.

Bear in mind that you can bring attention to the case without giving attention to the attackers or their cause, you seem to be having a lot of difficulty understanding that.

[StylinRed]

A few people (local to the event might I add) out of millions is pretty damn close to none. Also stop assuming you know the mindset I have, because you're not even fucking close.
oh im sorry i dont mean to accuse you of not giving a fuck directly (i didnt think i did) im speaking in general when people cry about not wanting to hear about a case or the suspects, if that's not how you feel great.

Bear in mind that you can bring attention to the case without giving attention to the attackers or their cause, you seem to be having a lot of difficulty understanding that.
any attention to a case will bring attention to the attackers or their cause that's something you'll have to accept.
i'm saying all attention or research into the suspects that a person/media gives shouldn't and isn't a soapbox for the suspects purpose and has its own uses (unless the listener wants it to be a soapbox)

[Tone Loc]

IMHO both of you need to stop arguing... since you're both right in a sense. It's always beneficial to know "why" someone snapped and committed some horrible act, but the media always seems to take it too far by over-reporting every single minute detail of the killer(s) life. Not to mention all the keyboard warriors online who theorize every little thing simply for the sake of doing so. Even worse are the "1 like = 1 respect" morons who are somehow able to whittle down a catastrophic event where innocent people die into some kind of sick contest for meaningless "likes" on the Internet.

Personally, it is what it is... the media is driven by attention. They wouldn't print these horrific stories over and over and over again if the consumers didn't eat it up every single time. IMO, we, as a society need to focus on the positive and understand reasons for the negative, instead of the other way around as it is now.

[Nomomo]

30 dead in chicago from gun shots over the weekend in a gun free city, yet do you see it being hyped? Heck no

[will068]

30 dead in chicago from gun shots over the weekend in a gun free city, yet do you see it being hyped? Heck no

Poor and black neighborhoods. Media does not care.

[dachinesedude]

30 dead in chicago from gun shots over the weekend in a gun free city, yet do you see it being hyped? Heck no

its 30 shootings, only a few died

[Nomomo]

Point is guns are banned in Chicago and bans don't work.
I don't think anyone on Hastings and main have any problems getting heroine.

its 30 shootings, only a few died

[multicartual]

30 dead in chicago from gun shots over the weekend in a gun free city, yet do you see it being hyped? Heck no


Hyped? Depends...


What kind of music do those people listen to?

[multicartual]

I don't think anyone on Hastings and main have any problems getting heroine.


You should come check out the scene on a welfare Wednesday, it is fucking insane.

Then come back on a Black Eye Friday(Friday immediately after welfare Wednesday)and see how many people actually have black eyes and look beat up as dealers came to collect debts!

[vafanculo]

Hyped? Depends...


What kind of music do those people listen to?

Chief keef

[mikemhg]

Point is guns are banned in Chicago and bans don't work.
I don't think anyone on Hastings and main have any problems getting heroine.

That argument has been debunked a thousand times over when you can drive less than an hour across state lines and purchase a weapon with impunity. Besides, that ban only applies to gun stores, there are no gangbangers in Chicago grabbing their guns from stores.