[Timpo]

http://www.theprovince.com/cms/binary/9474129.jpg

She rode the SkyTrain 'for free' when she was 15, now ICBC is telling her — and 37,000 others — to pay up
She rode the SkyTrain 'for free' when she was 15, now ICBC is telling her ? and 37,000 others ? to pay up (http://www.theprovince.com/rode+SkyTrain+free+when+ICBC+telling+others/9687414/story.html)

BY ELAINE O'CONNOR, THE PROVINCE APRIL 2, 2014

A decade ago, as a girl of 15, Rayanne Tupman used to ride SkyTrain for free. She was caught almost a dozen times, and issued tickets, but she never paid them or told her parents.

This week, the now 25-year-old Maple Ridge mother of two was shocked to learn those fines had come due, thanks to a new crackdown at ICBC. Nearly 40,000 other B.C. residents could soon find themselves facing the same nasty surprise.

The Douglas College nursing student is upset that she must pay more than $2,000 in unpaid TransLink fines in order to upgrade her driver’s licence.
“They are taking the food out of the mouths of my children for something that occurred a decade ago, something that my parents were never informed of since I was a minor,” she said.

She argues TransLink should have sent a notice to her parents, because she was a minor and didn’t understand the repercussions.

“How is this justified that the government can bring old skeletons out of our closets from when we were kids?” Tupman said.

Upset as she is, Tupman admits she is responsible and says she will pay the fine. But she wants her experience to serve as a warning to other youths what could happen.

A 2012 legislative provision that came into force at ICBC Monday will now make it impossible for drivers like Tupman with pre-2012 unpaid fines to renew licences or vehicle registrations without paying their TransLink debts.

ICBC’s Adam Grossman said approximately 37,000 B.C. residents with some $5.7 million in outstanding tickets incurred between 2002 and 2012 would now find licences and registrations subject to a “refuse to issue” hold.

“The refuse to issue restriction is part of the legislation introduced by government in May 2012 to reduce fare evasion on the transit system and has been in place on new transit debt since Sept. 4, 2012,” Grossman explained. “We’ve now made the system changes required to support refuse to issue holds on older, provincial transit tickets.”

Grossman said ICBC would send out notices to affected drivers prior to their renewal date.

TransLink warns on its website that unpaid tickets can impede an individual’s ability to renew driver’s licences or vehicle insurance.

Overdue fines are sent to collections. Once a ticket is more that 180 days past due, the $173 fines increase by $40 to $213. Once a ticket is more than one year overdue, fines increase another $60 up to $273.

Fare infractions issued before Sept. 4, 2012, are considered provincial offences and are collected or disputed through ICBC.

TransLink spokeswoman Jiana Ling referred inquiries on this case to ICBC, as they were in charge of fine administration prior to 2012 and therefore have jurisdiction.

If fines remain unpaid after a year, ICBC refers them to collections. Between 2010 and 2012, ICBC collected $10 million in unpaid fines on 60,000 tickets, averaging 2,500 a month.

In September 2012, following the introduction of the South Coast B.C. Transportation Authority Act, TransLink gained responsibility for issuing fare-infraction tickets and collecting fines.

At that time, TransLink admitted it was losing $18 million a year in revenue to fare evaders.

In 2013, the first full year TransLink took over fine administration, the transit authority issued 25,400 tickets worth about $5.6 million. They managed to collect on 33 per cent of the tickets.

Fare evasion is expected to decline following the implementation of the $170-million Compass Card faregate program.

Passengers can pay fines in person, online or by mail. They can dispute a ticket, even if they have paid some or all of it. They must fill out a Notice of Dispute form on TransLink’s website and submit it within 14 days of the date the ticket was issued. Passengers unhappy with the outcome of dispute resolution can appeal the decision.

[kkthind]

:lawl: Lol public transit

[zilley]

“How is this justified that the government can bring old skeletons out of our closets from when we were kids?”

[StylinRed]

:rofl: sounds like she wants her parents to pay for it

[4444]

Not sure I understand the issue, she was found guilty of repeated offences. She didn't pay, government, being government, is slow and useless, finally calls in the debt.

1 time, I'd say let it go, repeat offender, she should have to pay.

Debt is debt, did the government ever relieve her of her legal duty to pay?

[Hot Karl]

wait you mean stupid things you do in your youth can catch up to you later in life?

although she's whining like the little bitch she is, at least she's gonna pay it.

[Matlock]

Throw her in the slammer and throw away the key.

[b0unce. [?]]

When I was in high school, I always rode the skytrain for free. I was caught at least a dozen times, each time I gave them a new identity with new # and address. Nothing ever traced back to me :lol

[stewie]

good, maybe they'll start doing that for everyone. everything from bylaw parking tickets to skytrain tickets. no pay, no license renewal... + late fees.

[quasi]

I don't mind the way the laws are now where it goes against your drivers license but saying that I don't think they should be able to apply it to tickets that were received before the legislation changed.

[stewie]

^ i kinda like it the way it is now lol

if they just gave everyone a fresh slate, they'd be losing out on waaaay to much money. its not fair for those who've paid for all these years, only to find out that the people they've seen for the past countless years riding for free get a free ticket to a fresh start.

pay up for your stupid decisions from the past, it may suck, but they'll most likely never do it again, and they'll probably tell set an example for their friends as to what not to do

[Bouncing Bettys]

ICBC should not be in the collections business. What powers shall we grant them next?

[Hondaracer]

Don't even bother reading the paper or watching the news much anymore cause there's always a handful of these ducking stories where people go whine to the media to try and get sympathy or get out of somthing. Fuck em

[murd0c]

the Statue of limitations would of passed so as per the law they can not collect it from her.

[Hehe]

the Statue of limitations would of passed so as per the law they can not collect it from her.

Not really.

The ticket was basically a summons to the girl/lady. If she chose not to appeal the charges, the judgement is against her.

AFAIK, Limitation Act doesn't stop such judgement.

[Mr.HappySilp]

the Statue of limitations would of passed so as per the law they can not collect it from her.

Try doing that to student loans. Sorry but some debt are for life, you don't pay it will be on your records for life.

[melloman]

.... I thought this was always law. I've always known that if I don't pay the Translink ticket, it'll end up on my drivers license and I won't beable to renew until the fine is paid.

[H.Specter]

do the crime, do the time

[meme405]

She argues TransLink should have sent a notice to her parents, because she was a minor and didn’t understand the repercussions.

I could understand if she did it once, and then learned from it.

But she did it 12 times! What'd you think the police just stand around giving out little slips of paper for fun? Idiot.

Also is anyone else reminded of this?

Dave Chappelle - How Old Is Fifteen Really? - YouTube

I guess it all comes down to...How old is 15 really?

[originalhypa]

She has this posted on her facebook.

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1017766_10152028097372201_1572268603027162617_n.jp g

:lol

[multicartual]

There is a solution to this problem and it lies somewhere between a neck tattoo and a 302 swap

[GLOW]

wait you mean stupid things you do in your youth can catch up to you later in life?



25-year-old Maple Ridge mother of two
yep :troll:

[Shark Tank]

http://www.theprovince.com/cms/binary/9474129.jpg

She rode the SkyTrain 'for free' when she was 15, now ICBC is telling her — and 37,000 others — to pay up
She rode the SkyTrain 'for free' when she was 15, now ICBC is telling her ? and 37,000 others ? to pay up (http://www.theprovince.com/rode+SkyTrain+free+when+ICBC+telling+others/9687414/story.html)

BY ELAINE O'CONNOR, THE PROVINCE APRIL 2, 2014

A decade ago, as a girl of 15, Rayanne Tupman used to ride SkyTrain for free. She was caught almost a dozen times, and issued tickets, but she never paid them or told her parents.

This week, the now 25-year-old Maple Ridge mother of two was shocked to learn those fines had come due, thanks to a new crackdown at ICBC. Nearly 40,000 other B.C. residents could soon find themselves facing the same nasty surprise.

The Douglas College nursing student is upset that she must pay more than $2,000 in unpaid TransLink fines in order to upgrade her driver’s licence.
“They are taking the food out of the mouths of my children for something that occurred a decade ago, something that my parents were never informed of since I was a minor,” she said.

She argues TransLink should have sent a notice to her parents, because she was a minor and didn’t understand the repercussions.

“How is this justified that the government can bring old skeletons out of our closets from when we were kids?” Tupman said.

Upset as she is, Tupman admits she is responsible and says she will pay the fine. But she wants her experience to serve as a warning to other youths what could happen.

A 2012 legislative provision that came into force at ICBC Monday will now make it impossible for drivers like Tupman with pre-2012 unpaid fines to renew licences or vehicle registrations without paying their TransLink debts.

ICBC’s Adam Grossman said approximately 37,000 B.C. residents with some $5.7 million in outstanding tickets incurred between 2002 and 2012 would now find licences and registrations subject to a “refuse to issue” hold.

“The refuse to issue restriction is part of the legislation introduced by government in May 2012 to reduce fare evasion on the transit system and has been in place on new transit debt since Sept. 4, 2012,” Grossman explained. “We’ve now made the system changes required to support refuse to issue holds on older, provincial transit tickets.”

Grossman said ICBC would send out notices to affected drivers prior to their renewal date.

TransLink warns on its website that unpaid tickets can impede an individual’s ability to renew driver’s licences or vehicle insurance.

Overdue fines are sent to collections. Once a ticket is more that 180 days past due, the $173 fines increase by $40 to $213. Once a ticket is more than one year overdue, fines increase another $60 up to $273.

Fare infractions issued before Sept. 4, 2012, are considered provincial offences and are collected or disputed through ICBC.

TransLink spokeswoman Jiana Ling referred inquiries on this case to ICBC, as they were in charge of fine administration prior to 2012 and therefore have jurisdiction.

If fines remain unpaid after a year, ICBC refers them to collections. Between 2010 and 2012, ICBC collected $10 million in unpaid fines on 60,000 tickets, averaging 2,500 a month.

In September 2012, following the introduction of the South Coast B.C. Transportation Authority Act, TransLink gained responsibility for issuing fare-infraction tickets and collecting fines.

At that time, TransLink admitted it was losing $18 million a year in revenue to fare evaders.

In 2013, the first full year TransLink took over fine administration, the transit authority issued 25,400 tickets worth about $5.6 million. They managed to collect on 33 per cent of the tickets.

Fare evasion is expected to decline following the implementation of the $170-million Compass Card faregate program.

Passengers can pay fines in person, online or by mail. They can dispute a ticket, even if they have paid some or all of it. They must fill out a Notice of Dispute form on TransLink’s website and submit it within 14 days of the date the ticket was issued. Passengers unhappy with the outcome of dispute resolution can appeal the decision.

Sweet Karma. One thing I learned is in life theirs no handouts. Obligatory you do the crime you pay the fine.

http://i.imgur.com/fWBULdO.gif

[meme405]

Sweet Karma. One thing I learned is in life theirs no handouts. Obligatory you do the crime you pay the fine.
]

Really no handouts?

What about those rich Asian kids you continuously wish you were family with, those aren't handouts?

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

one thing you should also learn in life is the difference between their and there. lol.

i aint usually one but...

http://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/169582/grammar-nazi-meta.png

sigheil!!!

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Really no handouts?

What about those rich Asian kids you continuously wish you were family with, those aren't handouts?

only a poor person would say that.

all the rich kids know, it ain't a handout. there's always a cost for everything.

or you can view all life as handouts. the fact that you can even experience anything, is a handout.

[underscore]

How much are the tickets? It says almost a dozen so I'll say 11 tickets, that's about $180/ticket she's paying.

[Shark Tank]

Really no handouts?

What about those rich Asian kids you continuously wish you were family with, those aren't handouts?

No they're incredibly lucky and blessed to be trust fund kids. I am envious and jealous and of course want to be in there position. Trust me, these rich Asian kids aren't going around doing any harm or trying to abuse the transit system by not paying there fares. The real issue here is how these fair evaders cost us taxpayers because were stuck paying for the costs in the end.

The rich asian kids you see have it all. Hot gf's, baller cars, mansions, freedom to do what they want anytime anywhere. I think thats what everyone would want. Instead most Canadians are just grinding away at their desk jobs dealing with all the bullshit. Sure I could be a drug dealer and get rich from doing illegal things to buy porsches, swiss watches, yaletown penthouses but again I don't want to go to jail or be shot.

[stewie]

No they're incredibly lucky and blessed to be trust fund kids. I am envious and jealous and of course want to be in there position. Trust me, these rich Asian kids aren't going around doing any harm or trying to abuse the transit system by not paying there fares. The real issue here is how these fair evaders cost us taxpayers because were stuck paying for the costs in the end.

The rich asian kids you see have it all. Hot gf's, baller cars, mansions, freedom to do what they want anytime anywhere. I think thats what everyone would want. Instead most Canadians are just grinding away at their desk jobs dealing with all the bullshit. Sure I could be a drug dealer and get rich from doing illegal things to buy porsches, swiss watches, yaletown penthouses but again I don't want to go to jail or be shot.


You're right, those Asian kids aren't jumping on skytrain rides or "doing no harm". But screw it, they're trust fund kids, who needs skytrain a when daddy can buy you a 100,000$+ sports car so they can pretend they're race car drivers and showing off on the highways. Get pulled over and car gets impounded? No problem, just buy a new one! License gets suspended? Good luck, it's a foreign license that nobody has record of being actually real.

Ps - me and you have VERY different views on "hot girlfriends" lol. When you think they have it all...they don't. The girl is with them for money...like how a 10/10 amazingly hot girl would date a 600lb man if he was a billionaire...or Hugh Hefner. The cars are a status symbol, one that really isn't that impressive to be honest. The freedom will expire. Their parents will eventually die leaving the kid with money that he'll/she'll blow in no time, leaving their future kids with *a typical Canadian life and dealing with bullshit*

[multicartual]

The rich asian kids you see have it all. Hot gf's, baller cars, mansions, freedom to do what they want anytime anywhere. I think thats what everyone would want.

They didn't work for it, there is a huge satisfaction when you manage to squeak out an awesome life while on a budget, or live a crazy wild mother fucker life while working your ass off and earning it yourself!

So many rich kids, mostly men, are total dorks!

Shit I threw Ronnie Negus's son Jhordan out of a bar after he was standing on the pool tables and telling everyone "I have 500 million!" over and over as a way of socializing

A lot of really wealthy people are unhappy because they feel unaccomplished and unfulfilled

A lot of really poor people are happy because they scrape by and feel fulfilled by working hard to support the people they love through shared hardship

When I was poor the smallest accomplishments felt amazing. Now that I have money being able to afford nachos isn't the same feat it once was when I was a homeless teenager, ya dig?

[Shark Tank]

Nobody on RS including me is ever going to be the 1%'ers with more than 100Million net worth or we would be too busy vacationing to Dubai,Europe,Monte Carlo, Hong Kong. We would be tracking our $250,000 supercars daily to get our adrenaline juices flowing, shopping for baller stuff, eating at 5 stars restarants and the list goes on & on

I would give up 25 years of busting my ass making minimum wage and feel accomplished I could afford a downpayment for a 500sq ft. studio apartment downtown if I could live 1 year being rich and given everything to me by rich family or trust funds.

In the end we're all really of stuff that we can't have. We all see a supercar and become paralzyed with sheer envy. Even when the Dubai Sheik came to Vancouver everyone wanted to follow him and take pictures.

[parm104]

Nobody on RS including me is ever going to be the 1%'ers with more than 100Million net worth...

Don't be ignorant...you don't need $100 Million (or even a million) to be in the 1%...

Also, why did OP get failed so many times just for posting an article? Is it just because he's Timpo? lol

[The_AK]

wooooow should break her legs so she doesnt do this again



(not srs)

[Gnomes]

I'm not defending the fare evader but the punishment does not fit the crime. One translink unpaid fare ticket costs $173 but texting while driving or no seatbelt costs $167. There's a whole truckload of violations that costs less than fare evasions but +2-3 points (as according to Fines & points for B.C. traffic offences (http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/tickets/pages/fines-points-offences.aspx))

Severity of crime is low yet punishment is higher than more severe MVA offences

[XplicitLuder]

"They are taking the food out of the mouths of my children for something that occurred a decade ago, something that my parents were never informed of since I was a minor,”

LOL^ cus she cant inform her parents herself ? you got a TICKET by POLICE (ya transit same thing inb4 fails) and you were 15 ... did she have no brain or something ? lel rekt

[ree666]

the Statue of limitations would of passed so as per the law they can not collect it from her.

where is this big statue located?

[BrRsn]

where is this big statue located?

in his pants
its not really a statue
its a monument

http://i.imgur.com/MpQeGyy.jpg

[Inaii]

Also, why did OP get failed so many times just for posting an article? Is it just because he's Timpo? lol

Because the article is from April and I'm pretty sure it's already been posted. My guess anyway. I failed him for digging up old news.

[parm104]

Because the article is from April and I'm pretty sure it's already been posted. My guess anyway. I failed him for digging up old news.

HAHA, so I guess technically it is because it was posted by Timpo; notorious for posting decade old articles and passing them off as "news."

[dangonay]

I have to agree with the girl on this one (though she still comes across as a whiny bitch bringing up her children's food).

Why does ICBC have to wait so long before collecting? I just want to hear one good reason from them why they don't track down people within, say, the first year after getting a ticket. And in the case of a person with multiple tickets why the issue wasn't escalated to collect as soon as possible after they were issued.

[Inaii]

HAHA, so I guess technically it is because it was posted by Timpo; notorious for posting decade old articles and passing them off as "news."

Lol, well when you look at it that way.... ya I guess so :lol

[meme405]

I have to agree with the girl on this one (though she still comes across as a whiny bitch bringing up her children's food).

Why does ICBC have to wait so long before collecting? I just want to hear one good reason from them why they don't track down people within, say, the first year after getting a ticket. And in the case of a person with multiple tickets why the issue wasn't escalated to collect as soon as possible after they were issued.

They didn't have the authority previously.

Before the new system was put in place recently (I guess recently is a relative term given the date of the article), there was no way for ICBC to force people to pay. They could send the tickets to collections, but that wouldn't go anywhere.

A very similar circumstance would be tickets by impark right now. In the future if impark manages to get the system on board maybe they will come after everyone who doesn't pay their private parking tickets.

Now with the new system ICBC has the information and they force you to pay transit tickets before you renew.

[Hondaracer]

every thread degenerates into rich asian kids

[Lowered_Klass]

^ I know, and it's getting old. Not to mention annoying as fuck. Give it a rest already.

Bottom line, the bitch has to pay. What pisses me off the most, is her saying they're "taking food out of the mouths of my kids..."

Gimme a break, her kids will eat just fine. She just might not have to buy so many boxes of wine over the next little while.

[FS1992EG]

I agree people who are over the age of 18 who were caught riding without buying a ticket should be fined but she was in the 18 years old.

She was a minor when she committed these offenses and she should be doing community service instead of paying the fines.

[SoNaRWaVe]

How much are the tickets? It says almost a dozen so I'll say 11 tickets, that's about $180/ticket she's paying.

i believe its $173 per ticket.

[Akinari]

No they're incredibly lucky and blessed to be trust fund kids. I am envious and jealous and of course want to be in there position. Trust me, these rich Asian kids aren't going around doing any harm or trying to abuse the transit system by not paying there fares. The real issue here is how these fair evaders cost us taxpayers because were stuck paying for the costs in the end.

The rich asian kids you see have it all. Hot gf's, baller cars, mansions, freedom to do what they want anytime anywhere. I think thats what everyone would want. Instead most Canadians are just grinding away at their desk jobs dealing with all the bullshit. Sure I could be a drug dealer and get rich from doing illegal things to buy porsches, swiss watches, yaletown penthouses but again I don't want to go to jail or be shot.
Jesus can you please just shut the fuck up before you make yourself even more of a fool than you already have :facepalm:

[BrRsn]

Jesus can you please just shut the fuck up before you make yourself even more of a fool than you already have :facepalm:

hey man, he's an entrepreneur -- we cannot fathom his entrepreneurial prowess

[Nlkko]

173 per ticket, go up to 233 after 1 year of non-payment.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

every thread degenerates into rich asian kids

or jews and illuminati.

[underscore]

i believe its $173 per ticket.

So no interest on them? Lucky.

[Qmx323]

OH NO, YOU'RE TELLING ME BREAKING THE LAW HAS CONSEQUENCES?

This bitch can't be serious

[multicartual]

In the end we're all really of stuff that we can't have.


At my peak I made 25k a month, right now I make less than half of that but feel more purpose, and ultimately happier

[originalhypa]

At my peak I made 25k a month, right now I make less than half of that but feel more purpose, and ultimately happier

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/hypasteve/cheapcoilovers_zps47207265.jpg


:fullofwin:

[Everymans]

I remember getting 2 when I was a broke fucker going to school. I completely forgot about them because I didn't get any notices or anything. I assume translink screwed up with their paperwork and I was off the hook. Unfortunately when I had to change over my licence they nicked me with the fines. I was a little pissed but I sucked it up and paid up. Annoyingly one of those tickets was for having a student ticket instead of an adult ticket. i was 18 and a student at the time so I didn't understand why the officer was being such a hardass. Dude even insulted me because I cheaped out on the ticket.

[GLOW]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/hypasteve/cheapcoilovers_zps47207265.jpg


:fullofwin:

finally i get to use this
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jQv3VBSV--/196fuarapyylmgif.gif

[dangonay]

They didn't have the authority previously.

Before the new system was put in place recently (I guess recently is a relative term given the date of the article), there was no way for ICBC to force people to pay. They could send the tickets to collections, but that wouldn't go anywhere.

A very similar circumstance would be tickets by impark right now. In the future if impark manages to get the system on board maybe they will come after everyone who doesn't pay their private parking tickets.

Now with the new system ICBC has the information and they force you to pay transit tickets before you renew.

Compare this to the criminal justice system. Say you get sentenced to 2 years for dealing drugs. The government is trying to crack down on drug dealers, so the law is changed whereby people convicted now get a minimum 5 years in prison.

A person already sentenced to 2 years will not get their sentence automatically changed to 5 years because the sentence they received (2 years) was what the law allowed for at the time of the conviction. Likewise, people who did 2 years and were then released will not get rounded back up 10 years later to finish off the other 3 years.

I'm not sure when things changed so that ICBC could start collecting, but I feel that only tickets that were issued AFTER this came into effect should apply. Older tickets should still have to be dealt with under the old system, since they were issued while the old rules were in effect.


Now think of taxes. The laws change regularly and something you can deduct today may not apply to you next year. Imagine if Revenue Canada decided to retroactively go after people for taxes in previous years because of a recent change in the law? Would you think that was acceptable?

[underscore]

A person already sentenced to 2 years will not get their sentence automatically changed to 5 years because the sentence they received (2 years) was what the law allowed for at the time of the conviction. Likewise, people who did 2 years and were then released will not get rounded back up 10 years later to finish off the other 3 years.

Your example is wrong, they aren't retroactively increasing the fines and re-charging people who paid, they're merely rounding up people who didn't pay at all. Using your example if they were charged with 2 years and served it, they're done. But if they never served their 2 years, they now do 5.

[Brad Fuel]

If they got a ticket 10 years ago, that was the date they were CHARGED. From that date, they had 30 days to file a dispute. Most people didn't bother and the matter was treated as uncontested.

Statute of Limitations does not apply in most cases as they were charged when the ticket is handed to them, likely at the same time they were caught. Statute of Limitations is would apply if they were trying to serve a ticket today for an offence that happened 10 years ago.

It's the same as a MVA ticket, the only difference now is having some teeth to collect.

underscore is right, the fine amounts aren't being bumped up to today's fine. I'm guessing a ticket from 10 years ago was probably a fair bit cheaper.

[freakshow]

To further underscore's point, its more like if a person was assigned 2 years jail time 15 years ago. Never served a day, and just kept skirting the law. Now they have a way to force them, they would do 2 years jail time.

It's not like ICBC is using the current ticket value and applying it to all her old tickets. She just has to pay what she already owes.

On a side note.. It feels like the twilight zone to be in a thread where everyone is defending ICBC..

[underscore]

To further underscore's point, its more like if a person was assigned 2 years jail time 15 years ago. Never served a day, and just kept skirting the law. Now they have a way to force them, they would do 2 years jail time.

It's not like ICBC is using the current ticket value and applying it to all her old tickets. She just has to pay what she already owes.

On a side note.. It feels like the twilight zone to be in a thread where everyone is defending ICBC..

You know somebody is really fucking stupid when the consensus is siding with ICBC over them.

[Phil@rise]

She was a minor at the time of being "charged" this is something that the system should have made her parents aware of at the time. They knew she was a minor, they must have otherwise there would be no paperwork leading to this now. I wont be suprised when a class action lawsuit is filed against translink and icbc for such cases.

[Brad Fuel]

It's a charge under a provincial statute. She wasn't arrested or detained so that's why her parents would not be notified. Also when she got those tickets the Youth Criminal Justice Act was not around (created in 2003). It would have been the Young Offenders Act (1984-2003), which I'm not familiar with but more than likely is about punishment and less about parents in comparison to the YCJA.

oh yeah she hasn't paid yet, she can still tell her parents

[Mancini]

one thing you should also learn in life is the difference between their and there. lol.

i aint usually one but...

http://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/169582/grammar-nazi-meta.png

sigheil!!!

Since you're correcting others:

Ain't is spelled using a contraction. Also, ain't ain't a word.

[PeanutButter]

isn't there a statue of limitations on things like this?

[godwin]

Well I have never seen a statue of limitations. Since it is just a fine, just a debt there is no statute of limitation, in fact I don't mind the gov makes her pay 10 years worth of interest let say 5%.

isn't there a statue of limitations on things like this?

[Lomac]

Since you're correcting others:

Ain't is spelled using a contraction. Also, ain't ain't a word.

It's also "Sieg heil."

:p

[smarv]

Well I have never seen a statue of limitations. Since it is just a fine, just a debt there is no statute of limitation, in fact I don't mind the gov makes her pay 10 years worth of interest let say 5%.

:badpokerface:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq8gfaFqFpI

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Since you're correcting others:

Ain't is spelled using a contraction. Also, ain't ain't a word.

this gentleman disagrees

Redneck Minute///I Ain't Broken Down - YouTube

you ain't don't got nothin on him.

[4444]

Well I have never seen a statue of limitations. Since it is just a fine, just a debt there is no statute of limitation, in fact I don't mind the gov makes her pay 10 years worth of interest let say 5%.

correct me if i'm wrong, but she was convicted, just never collected on.

statute of limitations revolves around the ability to try a defendant, not collections. a debt is a debt and is not resolved until either paid in full or forgiven.