[Timpo]

Are Fat People Destroying Earth? (http://www.livescience.com/7704-fat-people-destroying-earth.html)

Are Fat People Destroying Earth?
Robert Roy Britt

The news that fat people could help save Earth by eating less generated big headlines yesterday. But many people question whether it's good science or bad manners to pin the planet's woes on the overweight.

The news was based on a report from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, which says:

"Because food production is a major contributor to global warming, a lean population, such as that seen in Vietnam, will consume almost 20 percent less food and produce fewer greenhouse gases than a population in which 40 percent of people are obese (close to that seen in the USA today). ... Transport-related emissions will also be lower because it takes less energy to transport slim people. The researchers estimate that a lean population of 1 billion people would emit 1.0 GT (1,000 million tons) less carbon dioxide equivalents per year compared with a fat one."

The researchers, Phil Edwards and Ian Roberts, note that obesity is on the rise all over the world. All medical experts agree this is a health problem. Obesity has been linked to everything from deadly diabetes to increased risk of cancer. Many analysts fear the U.S. healthcare system — already in bad shape — could crumble under the weight of what many doctors see as the obesity epidemic.

The scientists are not the first to point out that heavier people have a bigger carbon footprint. But in putting some numbers to it, they've pulled no punches.

"When it comes to food consumption, moving about in a heavy body is like driving around in a gas guzzler," Edwards and Roberts said in a statement. "The heavier our bodies become the harder and more unpleasant it is to move about in them and the more dependent we become on our cars. Staying slim is good for health and for the environment. We need to be doing a lot more to reverse the global trend towards fatness, and recognize it as a key factor in the battle to reduce emissions and slow climate change."

Lay on the guilt

There are questions to raise, however, about whether science goes too far in pushing for lifestyle and public policy changes. As John Tierney writes in his New York Times blog, "Do we really need to give fat people one more reason to feel guilty?"

How you answer that question probably depends on whether you see obesity as largely a lifestyle choice or as a correctable behavior problem — or some combination thereof. Is obesity just about indulgence and therefore akin to smoking, thus something that should be derided, discouraged, even taxed? Or is obesity a medical condition more like other diseases and thus one we need to solve with drugs and other compassionate interventions?

The answers depend at least in part on science that is incomplete right now. Some evidence has suggested that the propensity for immensity is at least partly inherited, and other studies have indicated that obesity might even be contagious.

So whatever, fat people should eat better and exercise more, right?

The science there is tricky, too. Certainly a good diet is important for everyone. But if someone has a genetic predisposition to obesity, they may not have the ability to change things much through diet alone. And a recent study called into question the whole notion that exercise can cure obesity. As good as working out is for you, diet seems to be the main factor in obesity, researchers at Loyola University Health System and other institutions found.

Buy two seats

Last week plus-size folks were told they'd have to pay for two seats on United Airlines, a tactic already employed by a handful of other airlines. Some slim people interviewed by the media saw this as just punishment for those who commit "seat infringement," while others see it as flat-out discrimination.

Certainly, a slimmer society would mean healthier people (reduced chance of deadly diabetes being among the most significant benefits) and yes, a lower carbon footprint. Slimming down is also said to improve your sex life.

The big question society now faces — one only breezed by in this week's flap — is whether obese people should be prodded into behavioral changes for the greater good, or if their condition should be viewed as a disability, as is the case in Canada (where that extra plane seat is, by law, free).

And before answering that question, it is worth asking this one: Should we also pressure behavioral changes among others who stamp the planet with their own carbon-footprint excesses, such as wine drinkers, people who don't recycle, spammers and even Googlers?

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[SoNaRWaVe]

where does the line get drawn then? its like saying anyone that has a condition or disease should be put blamed on since they are all pulling in extra resources of one kind or another.

[Timpo]

^ ok that's a good point, because people with disease or condition will probably get some sort of medical care, so should fat people for personal training, liposuction, nutrition counselling and whatnot

[$_$]

Promote healthy living by giving healthy people a tax break, that's a more reasonable solution than to tax fat people.

If people participate in specific events and complete events such as marathons they have government sponsored incentives, that type of thing.

And also, why is obesity a disease again? How is leading an unhealthy lifestyle a disease?

[Ludepower]

mcdonalds crew checking in.

[Alby]

ex mcdonald crew here

[Bouncing Bettys]

In terms of food, the world produces enough to feed everyone on the planet 3 times over. Capitalism gets in the way of that as it gets in the way of a lot of aspects surrounding health and the environment.

[320icar]

I came in here to say exactly that ^^

[Jmac]

Bill Maher was saying this 20 years ago ... Taxes on junk food, tax breaks for farmers/companies who produce organic produce ...

[Recon604]

articles from 2009. Where do you get these timpo?

[SkinnyPupp]

In terms of food, the world produces enough to feed everyone on the planet 3 times over. Capitalism gets in the way of that as it gets in the way of a lot of aspects surrounding health and the environment.
Also people (like their example of vietnam) aren't lean because they eat less, they eat less because they're already small, and poor.

Visit any culture where typically small/lean people exist, give them access to cheap starchy/sugary fattening food, give them a way to make money without doing physical work, and they are just as fat and unhealthy as cultures who started doing this 50 years ago.

Also plenty of these lean people end up being sick with diabetes and heart disease anyway, because even though they are smaller, they still eat crappy diets throughout their lives.

This whole thing is... well timporiffic

[Mr.HappySilp]

This just remind me earlier I saw a really fat person waiting for the bus at metro and he was sweating non stop lol. I guess in hot weather the fat people have it worse.

[trancehead]

you are heavier --> spend more gas to move your ass in your car
heavier -> more trama to your knees and the rest of your body as you have unoptimal weight to lug around

[PiuYi]

no. but tax GTR-lovers who post meaningless articles from half a decade ago, they waste too much bandwidth


:troll:

[vafanculo]

Government should tax junk food. And use the tax proceeds to subsidize the cost of healthy food..fruits, veggies, etc

[4444]

people are innately greedy, selfish, lazy+, and generally disgusting. that is why the richest nations, the US, UK, Canada, amongst others, are full of fat fucks who have no self control, they just want to constantly satisfy their desire for quick, convenient, tasty food.

personally, i think shit food should be taxed, based on its sugar content, fat content, fructose content, etc. with those funds used to subsidize cheaper alternatives, though to be honest, food is so cheap in North America that eating healthy is relatively easy, it's just that people are lazy and don't want to be bothered to actually spend time thinking about what to cook, how to cook it, and then cooking it.

the most amazing thing of all of this is that eating a vegetarian diet is way cheaper than a meat based diet and is way healthier, yet how many poor fat people are vegetarian? how many poor people are vegetarian? (those are rhetorical questions)

[4444]

Promote healthy living by giving healthy people a tax break, that's a more reasonable solution than to tax fat people.

If people participate in specific events and complete events such as marathons they have government sponsored incentives, that type of thing.

And also, why is obesity a disease again? How is leading an unhealthy lifestyle a disease?

you'd want to make the food cheaper rather than putting money in ppl's pockets (though i get what you're saying)

also, marathons (again, you're just giving an example, it just sucks) are net negative on your body, the damage to your joints and muscles outweigh the perceived benefits of running 26 miles.

in the end of the day, i believe the government should serve the people, not the other way around. if you want to eat shit, you shouldn't get government assisted healthcare. i'd be happy for there to be a sliding scale of fees associated with healthcare based on your weight / fitness level. There are many complications associated with this, but fuck it, i'd rather not have my tax dollars spent on smokers with lung disease, or fat people with diabetes or the bazillion other health problems that come with being overweight. but i'm an arsehole...

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

foodies should be treated like drug addicts.

hahaha

[4444]

foodies should be treated like drug addicts.

hahaha

foodies should be shot for using that word!

aren't we all foodies? don't we all enjoy food?

"Foodies" are just pretentious prats that like food.

[rsx]

If you tax junk food, what's the classification on junk food? High cal, high sodium, fat, etc? I'm sure some legit restos serve food that have higher 'junk' content. How about desserts?

Tough. I like the idea of getting a discount on msp or smth if you submit sports league membership fees, gym membership, etc.

[SkinnyPupp]

If you tax junk food, what's the classification on junk food? High cal, high sodium, fat, etc? I'm sure some legit restos serve food that have higher 'junk' content. How about desserts?

Tough. I like the idea of getting a discount on msp or smth if you submit sports league membership fees, gym membership, etc.
This makes more sense, since the idea of 'junk food' is usually wrong.. well not so much that, but most people think the alternative is 'healthy food' when in fact it is also junk food.

It would be tragic if a hamburger or something was taxed as junk food, but a giant bowl of pho wasn't. Because you know that's what they would do.

[StylinRed]

but fat people do pay more taxes as they're buying food for 20ppl and most of it is processed foods + they're paying more in petrol to get around not to mention higher electricity/gas fees due to constantly cooking or having the a/c on 24/7 :D

[stewie]

Buy two seats

Last week plus-size folks were told they'd have to pay for two seats on United Airlines, a tactic already employed by a handful of other airlines. Some slim people interviewed by the media saw this as just punishment for those who commit "seat infringement," while others see it as flat-out discrimination.



anorexic people be allowed to fit two people in one seat then. two people, one seat, get those frequent flyers to slim down to a healthy 68lbs!!

either way, in the end, fuck it. i will eat what i want when i want and be the judge of my own life. am i fat? no. am i healthy? to an extent. do i love junk food? absolutely, nothing i love better than a big ole bag of salt n' vinegar chips! if someones not happy about my eating habits, then they can go fuck themselves.

[sonick]

Taxes on junk food, tax breaks for farmers/companies who produce organic produce ...

Instead, the US government heavily subsidizes farmers who grow corn, which only a tiny percentage of it is actually edible in it's natural form. The rest is processed into HFCS and other materials.

[Gucci Mane]

just wow at some of the comments in here. people are so fucking shallow...

not all fat people are fat because of being lazy and eating too much.. this should just be about unhealthy people in general. how many skinny people are out there that smoke and eat like shit all day? LOTS. they should be taxed as well because they also are a drain on our fucking health care system because of their stupidity.

because i know this will be posted by someone else anyways, yes i am fat(NOT OBESE). fuck you. i'm a healthy fat person though, meaning while on the outside i may not look healthy, on the inside everything is within speck. i get all my tests done on time and everything always comes back above average. i just carry around some extra weight..

oh and under the old HST system, fruits and veggies etc weren't taxed. only processed food was. but you can thank the stupid fucking general public and bill vander zalms dumb ass for getting rid of that.

[meme405]

How many skinny people are out there that smoke and eat like shit all day? LOTS.

I don't smoke, but I certainly eat like shit (fast food multiple times a week, and junk food for entire meals), and although I decently active, that has very little to do with why I am super skinny.

[westopher]

oh and under the old HST system, fruits and veggies etc weren't taxed. only processed food was. but you can thank the stupid fucking general public and bill vander zalms dumb ass for getting rid of that.
It still works the same for the PST system. Processed food from grocery stores is taxed PST is it not? The only food tax that was reversed was HST was charged at restaurants, where as now only the liquor has added tax while the food is only taxed GST. I could be wrong, but thats what I gathered. I wouldn't know. I'm too busy making food for rich people to ever get to fucking eat myself. I'm a pretty slim guy, and I can tell you I'll be a far bigger burden on the health system than a moderately fat person that eats and sleeps regularly. Moral of the story is the way someone looks is not always indicative of their health.

[melloman]

Canada has fucked up.

My tax dollars should not be put forward so you can have a gastric band surgery because "you can't stop eating." Knight_KB has valid points, as my godfather is a big guy, looks overweight, but can bicycle 50km/day to work and home and not lose his breathe.

Honestly I don't care if you're fat, you die young because of heart failure/diabetes/total body failure. That's your problem. The issue is when your obesity gets in the way of others. Whether is be our taxes get raised to fund surgeries or counselling, or our plane tickets prices increase because you can't fit in 1 economy seat (and you can't afford 1st class/business).

Obesity is not a fucking disease though. It's a lifestyle choice.
One where you exercise daily/weekly even, you eat cleaner, and you think about how you are going to stay alive past fucking 50.

I know tons of people who say they're too embarrassed to go into the gym, yet I tell them: "No one is going to make fun of you for trying to change."

[sonick]

My tax dollars should not be put forward so you can have a gastric band surgery because "you can't stop eating."

Obesity is not a fucking disease though. It's a lifestyle choice.
One where you exercise daily/weekly even, you eat cleaner, and you think about how you are going to stay alive past fucking 50.


+1 on these points. If you lose weight after receiving lap band, gastric bypass, or any other related surgical procedure that limits food intake, then it's not a 'disease', or a genetic/metabolic issue. The only 'issue' is that you couldn't stop yourself from eating.

If somebody truly had a genetic or metabolic issue that caused obesity (which I do not doubt there are), a surgical procedure that simply limits food intake should have little or no effect.

[meme405]

I'm a pretty slim guy, and I can tell you I'll be a far bigger burden on the health system than a moderately fat person that eats and sleeps regularly. Moral of the story is the way someone looks is not always indicative of their health.

This is what I was going to point out, there are many other things besides being overweight which pose higher strains on our health care system. Maybe I should be taxed extra because I choose to partake in high risk activities such as snowboarding, mountain biking, bouldering, etc.

My activities in the past 5 odd years have left me in the hospital, or in the hands of doctors countless times:

-Broken collarbone 4x
-Broken wrist
-Broke both hands (3x metacarpals in one, and 2x in the other)
-Tore every ligament in my knee
-destroyed my ankle
-Various cuts and strained muscles (Stitches multiple times)

The list goes on and on. If we were to start taxing people based on how the probabilities of them having to use the system i'ma be fucking poor.

EDIT: People are kinda on two sides of a different coin here:

1. me and a few others (Knight & westopher) are pointing out that taxing overweight people just because they are overweight and might possibly put a strain on the health care system is pretty contradictory to the point.

2. Mello and Sonick and a few others are talking about how paying for what could be considered elective surgery for fat people should not be their responsibility.

I guess in response to what mello and sonick are saying, maybe these surgeries should be deemed elective, and then just like a boob job, people would have to pay out of pocket for it.

Or maybe I am taking this "Tax" a little to relatively, maybe that was all that was meant in the first place, but the way I understood it, was that you would literally charge people yearly based on their weight. To me doing that seems really discriminatory.

[westopher]

Obesity is not a fucking disease though. It's a lifestyle choice.
One where you exercise daily/weekly even, you eat cleaner, and you think about how you are going to stay alive past fucking 50.

I know tons of people who say they're too embarrassed to go into the gym, yet I tell them: "No one is going to make fun of you for trying to change."
Obesity can be a disease, just as drug addiction can be a disease. The world isn't so black and white. I do agree under man circumstances it's under the persons control, but sometimes it just isn't.

[melloman]

@wes: I concur. Yet I'm a strong believer of will power, and if your mind can push you hard enough, you can overcome it.

To me, even with drug addiction, I believe if people WANT to change. They can/will. But like the 40% of obese Americans, they don't want to put any work into that change. They just want the govt to give them an easy handout, and continue their lives the way it was going. Just slimmer.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

dudes its ok

think about it this way...

in a system where we all depend on each other for the WHOLE to advance forward... let's just help each other with whatever tax money. it's okay, whatever. it's a small cost in the larger picture of life.

what us sexy people benefit from already is... BEING SEXY HAH...

the healthier people are just better looking already.

the obese already have fingers pointed at them making fun of them and their chance of getting laid or getting anything in life other than diarrhea and constipation is super low already.

they're already living a life of punishment... self disgust is pretty bad punishment haha..

my taxes goes to help the unfortunate unhealthy people..

and us healthier people are covered in unhealthy people's envy.

good enough for me hah...

[sonick]

^ unfortunately that is no longer the case nowadays with the whole fat-acceptance/anti-fat-shaming movement that is going on.

It's one thing to 'accept' somebody who is a 'normal' size in comparison to fashion models, and is in overall good health except they have a few pounds on them. But it's another thing group those same people in with people who are clearly grossly overweight and at an unhealthy size and call it 'curvy'.

[GGnoRE]

just wow at some of the comments in here. people are so fucking shallow...

not all fat people are fat because of being lazy and eating too much.. this should just be about unhealthy people in general. how many skinny people are out there that smoke and eat like shit all day? LOTS. they should be taxed as well because they also are a drain on our fucking health care system because of their stupidity.

because i know this will be posted by someone else anyways, yes i am fat(NOT OBESE). fuck you. i'm a healthy fat person though, meaning while on the outside i may not look healthy, on the inside everything is within speck. i get all my tests done on time and everything always comes back above average. i just carry around some extra weight..

oh and under the old HST system, fruits and veggies etc weren't taxed. only processed food was. but you can thank the stupid fucking general public and bill vander zalms dumb ass for getting rid of that.

^ your self description doesn't sound that "fat". We are talking about straight up obese. The level of fatness that leads to diabetes + heart disease.

FYI there is a big tax on cigs and they are planning to raise it even further

Federal budget unveils major tax hike for smokers that will see jump in cost of cigarettes, tobacco and cigars | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02/11/federal-budget-unveils-major-tax-hike-for-smokers-that-will-see-jump-in-cost-of-cigarettes-tobacco-and-cigars/)

[CharlesInCharge]

ZioAmerican marketing + affordable (unhealthy) food = unhealthy people = diseases (like cancer) = ZioAmerican profits.

Do our taxes pay for cancer treatment? No.
Where does the life savings of an unhealthy individuals money go after cancer treatment?
It goes into the cancer business run by the same marketers and world suppliers of unhealthy food.

[westopher]

This is one tinfoil hat theory I agree with cic on 100% although it's much less relevant here than it is the U.s.

[multicartual]

I only eat organic, gluten-free, and enjoy vegan products n' shhheeeiit


The last few years living downtown has shown me there are so many beautiful women in their 30's and 40's who have really aged well, the ones who keep their looks only eat premium foods!


There is a chick I met through a friend who partied hard on Granville for like a decade, she's 31 and looks mid 40's. Always eats McD's and shit.

[multicartual]

I'm pretty stoned, so I'm not sure how relevant the last post I made was. Who cares?


Anyways, if you start taxing fat people it becomes a slippery slope real fuckin' quick before the Government is taxing you if you like weed, booze, high horsepower cars, if you mountain bike you might pay a "danger" premium. The Government exists to nickel and dime you on everything, be glad you have the RIGHT to be a fat ass manboob virgin WoW level 70 neckbeard faggot!

Be DAMN glad.

[jasonturbo]

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[Ulic Qel-Droma]

The Government exists to nickel and dime you on everything, be glad you have the RIGHT to be a fat ass manboob virgin WoW level 70 neckbeard faggot!

Be DAMN glad.

it's actually level 90. HAHA....

[will068]

^ your self description doesn't sound that "fat". We are talking about straight up obese. The level of fatness that leads to diabetes + heart disease.

FYI there is a big tax on cigs and they are planning to raise it even further

Federal budget unveils major tax hike for smokers that will see jump in cost of cigarettes, tobacco and cigars | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02/11/federal-budget-unveils-major-tax-hike-for-smokers-that-will-see-jump-in-cost-of-cigarettes-tobacco-and-cigars/)

This is the main reason why some of my American co-workers prefer privatized of health care instead of subsidized government health care. They just don't want to subsidize the lifestyle of folks who are obese in the US.

[Spoon]

Health care is just a form of insurance. You bitch about it until the day you need it and then thank god there was such a thing. :rolleyes:

[multicartual]

it's actually level 90. HAHA....


I don't want a level 90 character

I want a 90 employee porn marketing empire

Fat people need encouragement but many fat people have already given up on any sort of self-improvement, it is sad.

[CharlesInCharge]

I believe the best way to lose weight is going on a fruit diet (which is unaffordable) and also sourcing fats from avocados, walnuts, and olive oil in salads.

[sdubfid]

I believe the best way to lose weight is going on a fruit diet (which is unaffordable) and also sourcing fats from avocados, walnuts, and olive oil in salads.

only solution is to be a forager of the land, free from the zioamericans

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I believe the best way to lose weight is going on a fruit diet (which is unaffordable) and also sourcing fats from avocados, walnuts, and olive oil in salads.

no actually the best way to lose weight is to do cardiovascular activity throughout the day and only eat enough to keep yourself going.

or don't eat at all and sleep 15 hours a day, and the 9 hours you are awake, eat one small meal.

or go party a lot, don't eat cuz you're always high on drugs, and party more, and sleep like mad after (without eating).


anyway

diet is important, but activity is even more important.

and doing activity does not mean u can "eat more".

too many times i see people go to the gym and then say they can eat more. buddy, that extra 250 cals you just ate in 3 minutes, just completely negated your workout, AND added more calories on top.. you know how long you have to workout to burn 250 cals?

don't make me make you watch mike chang 6 pack workout youtube advertisements all day.

haven't they learnt? it takes like 10,000 situps to burn off 1 point of fat!!! LOL.

anyway, point being... people emphasize on diet too much now.

see girls that never work out, and are picky about what they eat... look lady, you look better, but you still look fat cuz you don't fucking workout. you could eat like you did before, and workout way harder and you'd have better results.



whatever, part of me thinks fat people have some genetic disposition to be fat anyway, and on top of that, they have some sort of sensation (taste) impulse disorder... just let them be fat, fuck em.

just like the retards, we as society will carry them on our backs, cuz they're human too. we'll poke fun at them and do experiments on them when needed, but no matter what, we'll always carry them on our backs, just like we carry all the weak humans on our backs.

we need fat people to fuck themselves up so scientists can develop ways to fix those problems, and society as a whole will level up, and become immune to fatness. :accepted:

[Sid Vicious]

taxing fast food is the dumbest solution i have ever heard anyone propose

making fast food more expensive not only fucks over low income people, but does not actually fight obesity as it aint gonna make fat asses exercise, or diet

you eat anything, no matter how healthy and u don't exercise and run a significant calorie surplus = weight gain. its simple thermodynamics

[sonick]

diet is important, but activity is even more important.

and doing activity does not mean u can "eat more".

too many times i see people go to the gym and then say they can eat more. buddy, that extra 250 cals you just ate in 3 minutes, just completely negated your workout, AND added more calories on top.. you know how long you have to workout to burn 250 cals?

don't make me make you watch mike chang 6 pack workout youtube advertisements all day.

haven't they learnt? it takes like 10,000 situps to burn off 1 point of fat!!! LOL.

see girls that never work out, and are picky about what they eat... look lady, you look better, but you still look fat cuz you don't fucking workout. you could eat like you did before, and workout way harder and you'd have better results.

:derp:

States that activity is more important than diet, yet goes on the next five paragraphs with examples of how diet is more important than activity.

:suspicious:

[4444]

I believe the best way to lose weight is going on a fruit diet (which is unaffordable) and also sourcing fats from avocados, walnuts, and olive oil in salads.

you meant vegetable diet, right? fruits are full of natural sugars (dietetics have to be weary of how much fruit they eat - that should tell you something).

a green (in colour) diet is cheap, don't kid yourself, proteins (meats) are expensive.

[4444]

making fast food more expensive not only fucks over low income people, but does not actually fight obesity as it aint gonna make fat asses exercise, or diet



no, it fucks over lazy people.i don't want to repeat myself, but it is cheaper to cook healthy food than it is to eat shit at mcdonalds. but it's a lot easier and 'tastier' to eat mcdonalds everyday and sit on your fat arse than go to the shop, buy vegetables and seasonings, and then cook them.

it's the easy option that most people take, not necessarily the cheapest (though they'll often think it's the cheapest)

[Spoon]

There's no cure for laziness. They'll just end up consuming high sodium diets through microwavable pastas and such. :lol

[multicartual]

There's no cure for laziness. They'll just end up consuming high sodium diets through microwavable pastas and such. :lol


Barf!!!

[Sid Vicious]

no, it fucks over lazy people.i don't want to repeat myself, but it is cheaper to cook healthy food than it is to eat shit at mcdonalds. but it's a lot easier and 'tastier' to eat mcdonalds everyday and sit on your fat arse than go to the shop, buy vegetables and seasonings, and then cook them.

it's the easy option that most people take, not necessarily the cheapest (though they'll often think it's the cheapest)

so how exactly does this prevent or fight obesity?

your logic is absolutely retarded - even if they go home and cook, its not gonna make them exercise or run a calorie deficit

[sonick]

^ personally I find that it is actually difficult to eat too much when cooking foods from scratch (e.g. not microwave dinners etc.) at home. As someone who visits the Workout/Training thread, I'd have expect you to recognize the difficulty of running a calorie surplus from home cooked foods.

[4444]

so how exactly does this prevent or fight obesity?

your logic is absolutely retarded - even if they go home and cook, its not gonna make them exercise or run a calorie deficit

As sonick said, when u eat good, natural food dull of nutrients and fibre, you fill up much quicker and with fewer calories. Very easy to be relatively healthy with no purposely exercise.

Also, if it could help someone lose 30, 50 lbs etc, they'd then feel much more inclined to exercise if their current weight was a deterrent to them working out (this is very true to lots of fat, low motivation people, they need a first win to get going)

But rather than discussing u start calling the thinking retarded.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

:derp:

States that activity is more important than diet, yet goes on the next five paragraphs with examples of how diet is more important than activity.

:suspicious:

you can scientifically deduct that:

all fit sexy looking people work out.

not all fit sexy looking people focus on diet (or care).

not all unfit fatasses focus on diet (or care).

all unfit fatasses don't workout.

so... don't eat, and workout. like i said! lol.



i duno about you guys

everytime i see someone watching the cooking channel, or talk about food or excited about a dining out event they're going to...

i just see a junkie. like... you guys would be like "WTF" if people were watching TV shows about cooking meth, rolling weed, cleaning coke... techniques and ways to prep.

talk about getting their next hit... excited to go to a "drug party".

it's exactly the same.

people promote food like it's some... something to be proud of. lol. it aint nothing but anti-meth. meth make you skinny and energetic.
food make you lethargic and fat.

junkies. junkies that need help.

in fact there is a whole section on RS promoting this drug culture. I can guarantee you the average fat% of the average poster in that forum is higher than the ones in the fitness thread, and the party thread.

it's just simple. u wanna stop being fucked up on drugs? stop taking drugs.

you wanna stop being a fat ass? stop fucking eating.

if you can't stop, you have a problem. get help. you're addicted.

there's a thread on how to stop masturbating.

why isn't there a thread on how to stop eating so fucking much?

it's no different. addicted to some physical sensation. addicted to dopamine release.

if people can't see the similarity between the two... well, no wonder they're fat.

if you choose to "fuck it" and do what you want and live a life of fattery... well guess what, people are gonna point fingers and laugh at you and call you a fat fuck. you're gonna be unhealthy, toxic, and repulsive to the people around you, and the system that supports you. that's part of the package.

just like a meth junkie will get stares and refused service. just like a pot head will be called a "dumb stoner". and a coke head will be "egotistical jackass"

you reap what you sow.

[radioman]

wut

[Gucci Mane]

tha fuq is Ulic on?

[radioman]

He must be high on pizza pops.

[mk1freak]

Cocaine's A Hell of a Drug (Rick James) - YouTube

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

it's you guys that are on something.

high on food.

edit: hey look... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=food+high
a natural high occurring from eating a mighty fine meal. food highs are usually experienced by fat kids
lol. i am not the only one that thinks this.

i sneer in disguist when i see a junkie injecting himself and letting go of all sense of self control while he lays there in the dark ally.

i also sneer in disguist when i see people indulge themselves with food, eyes wide open, losing all control of the self, masticating the food, no different than a dog with it's head in the dog bowl. becoming animals...

i'll trade u guys good food, if you put this leash around your neck and crawl around like a dog. c'mon. it's food. you'd give up your dignity for food right? c'monnn its delicious sweet (insert favourite food)... it's only your dignity. it's a fair trade!!! come here... come here doggy!!! i got some food for ya!!! that's my doggy!!! sit!!! good job!!! here's a treat... lay down!!! there's a treat... suck my dick... there's a treat.
aw you don't want any treats? too bad, you're already dogs. who's a good doggy? that's right you're a good doggy!!! here's another treat!!!

wouldnt it be a sight, to see a food lover, have his sense of smell burnt from his face and his tongue cut off? gluttons are the most disgusting people on this planet, next to morbidly obese people that cant survive without some kind of medical care.

i aint talking about "heavier" people. they've always existed. im talking about REAL GLUTTONS. ones that worship food. ones that will become immediately depressed if they were denied sweets.

but honestly guys, i don't give two shits about gluttons anymore. like i said, they lower the standard of human, so that everyone else can shine above them. i throw them pity, the same way i throw a dog a bone. at the very least, it's amusing to watch.

edit: no, i revise my statement. it's not just morbidly obese people. it's anyone who enjoys food the same way they enjoy a drug, but they make excuses to as why you cannot compare food to drugs. the ones that indulge openly in food, and admit they enjoy it the same as a drug... they're ok.
you've all met potheads that say pot isnt a drug.. it's just a plant man...
or "yeah im a functional coke user". "alcohol isnt a drug"... "food isnt a drug". gimmie a break guys. admit it. you're getting high off of it. it's a drug. admit it. ADMIT. REPENT and perhaps ill spare you some dignity when we meet in the 3rd circle of hell (ill pass by you guys on my way down to the better circles of hell where me, jason, and a few others are stuck in a perpetual orgy with demons that jizz lava.. and each little bit of lava jizz that burns you off, becomes a mini you. and the mini you's have vaginas and dicks, and they fuck each other while jizzing more lava on you).

I duno. life is boring, maybe ill go grab some mcdonalds and make myself feel better as i chew on that blissful tasting meat, while staring at the old ladies with guts as big as their asses line up for 1 dollar xtra large cokes.

[melloman]

Okay guise. Ulic is really fucked up sometimes, but I thought I'd share a video to explain all his weird posts in here:

Lonely LOVES Her Bacon Sundae - @OpieRadio - YouTube

[multicartual]

I fucking moan like I'm having sex if I eat a good enough plate of nachos


Definitely get a cocaine-like rush eating a delicious meal, fo' sho'

[multicartual]

ones that will become immediately depressed if they were denied sweets.


Fuck I read this thread and now all I can think about is eating nachos today!!!

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

ill trade u some nachos for some porno.

[multicartual]

You buy me nachos and I'll copy over a ton of porno to a USB key if you have one!

[hotjoint]

Dominos pizza 50% off till July 20th. Use code CAG5014 :thumbsup:

[4444]

you can scientifically deduct that:

all fit sexy looking people work out.

not all fit sexy looking people focus on diet (or care).

not all unfit fatasses focus on diet (or care).

all unfit fatasses don't workout.

so... don't eat, and workout. like i said! lol.



i duno about you guys

everytime i see someone watching the cooking channel, or talk about food or excited about a dining out event they're going to...

i just see a junkie. like... you guys would be like "WTF" if people were watching TV shows about cooking meth, rolling weed, cleaning coke... techniques and ways to prep.

talk about getting their next hit... excited to go to a "drug party".

it's exactly the same.

people promote food like it's some... something to be proud of. lol. it aint nothing but anti-meth. meth make you skinny and energetic.
food make you lethargic and fat.

junkies. junkies that need help.

in fact there is a whole section on RS promoting this drug culture. I can guarantee you the average fat% of the average poster in that forum is higher than the ones in the fitness thread, and the party thread.

it's just simple. u wanna stop being fucked up on drugs? stop taking drugs.

you wanna stop being a fat ass? stop fucking eating.

if you can't stop, you have a problem. get help. you're addicted.

there's a thread on how to stop masturbating.

why isn't there a thread on how to stop eating so fucking much?

it's no different. addicted to some physical sensation. addicted to dopamine release.

if people can't see the similarity between the two... well, no wonder they're fat.

if you choose to "fuck it" and do what you want and live a life of fattery... well guess what, people are gonna point fingers and laugh at you and call you a fat fuck. you're gonna be unhealthy, toxic, and repulsive to the people around you, and the system that supports you. that's part of the package.

just like a meth junkie will get stares and refused service. just like a pot head will be called a "dumb stoner". and a coke head will be "egotistical jackass"

you reap what you sow.

humans need to eat. i'd rather eat good food that i'm excited about than crap food just for sustenance.

your junkie analogy is definitely imaginative, not sure i can agree with you, though some of the 'foodie' types, in their extreme, are a bit like that.