[roastpuff]

I'm so excited! :woot2: 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata reveal to be livestreamed, feature Duran Duran - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/08/29/2016-mazda-mx5-miata-reveal-duran-duran/)

6PM tonight. You bet I'm going to be tuning in to the livestream...

[Nabatron]

dont really know much on leaked specs but hopefully the new desgin and car will be awesome!

[tastic]

Super excited about this...very likely the wifey's next car.

[white rocket]

Hmmm....interesting.

[trollguy]

Jessie Spano Caffeine Pill Freakout! - YouTube

[mos_skeeto]

I want to see non-convertable option :)

[sonick]

Miata
Is
Always
The
Answer

:toot: :woot2:

Staff shirts at the unveiling event:

https://scontent-2.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10606019_10152751864668623_616265351634063351_n.jp g?oh=7dd1705bdd903fba693c3c45ac0726fc&oe=547AC74E

[320icar]

Waste of time until actual reveal

[Klondike]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/641/298/448.jpg

Europe - The Final Countdown - YouTube

[Bender Unit]

Live Reveal - YouTube

[Lomac]

Got it playing in the background. Cheesy music right now. :lol

I'm excited to see what this Mazda/Alfa partnership created.

[Nabatron]

hoping for atleast 200hp on a super light chassis

[Lomac]

Now that I think about it, I'm actually extremely surprised there haven't been any leaked photos of this thing.

[yray]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jT9CkWI---/713088137869020196.jpg

:troll:

[roastpuff]

It's hereeeee!!!

[dvst8]

wow, really liking the styling

[Lomac]

Damn. That looks good. Definitely has an Italian flavour to it.

:ratedb:

[roastpuff]

Mini F-type?

[zetazeta]

wow, really liking the styling

^ Same! It looks much more aggressive than the NC

[Nabatron]

Any word one specs?

[flagella]

Fucking show the car in different angles. Don't give a shit about Duran Duran singing out of tune.

The presentation is mediocre at best.

[roastpuff]

Any word one specs?

Not yet... Duran Duran is doing A View to a Kill. :concentrate:

[roastpuff]

And... from CAR Magazine:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwprk2hIIAAci00.jpg

[supafamous]

The side and rear 3/4 view are fantastic. Not so sure about the nose - not bad but don't love it yet. The rear looks brave.

Can't wait to drive it. That's really the part that matters.

[PLUJ]

pics are up on mazda.com

[punkwax]

MacGruber approves.
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/macgruber-movie-image-will-forte-1.jpg

[Ronin]

That looks great!

Front end looks like they smushed a S2K and a BRZ together. It's quite Fiat-y too.

This one finally removes all that chick car smell. The last gen already butched up a little.

[RE-Jo]

The car looks wonderful! Can't wait till actual review of the car! So proud of Mazda!

[LP700-4]

Looks like a Z4 now, not a bad thing but it almost feels like the typical miata happy bubbly look is missing

[noclue]

damn they still have the smiley face front bumper although toned down.
taillights reminds me of the previous generation Z4. Needs dual exhausts IMO
Side and interior looks great!

[is350]

really? did you guys check out the back end on mazda.com? It looks ugly on the back side, the circular brake light wow...

[Energy]

Wow, that looks great! What is the power going to be like?

[OGCStrike]

surprised that they went back to 4 lug wheels :suspicious:

[noclue]

yeah back is kinda weird but I like it it's the closest thing we're going to get to a modern day S2000.

[tonyzoomzoom]

Duran Duran !!

lolz

[supafamous]

surprised that they went back to 4 lug wheels :suspicious:

They must have stripped out a lot of weight to make that doable. The rumours were always that they were aiming to get down to 2,200 lbs or so and the 4 lugs suggest that they trimmed a lot of things to get there.

[tastic]

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/tasticfoto/tcsiertertg4aw.jpg

[Teriyaki]

Side really looks like a Z3/Z4. Its definitely lost that "roundness" though, not sure how I feel about that.

[flagella]

I'm gonna have to say, S2000 got it right from the beginning in terms of the look.

Not sure how I feel about this new Miata. Part of me sort of likes it. I guess it's good that at least Mazda is continuing with Miata while Honda axed S2000.

Now where are the specs motherfucker!

[Ronin]

Roundness? Good. That was the only thing keeping it from being a truly great car. It was never very good looking...just okay looking enough to not detract from the fact that it's a fantastic sports car. Now it looks good and hopefully it'll be good to drive as well.

[Lomac]

http://www.mazda.com/stories/craftmanship/mx-5/mx-5_25th2/movie_photo/resource/img/wallpaper/wp04_pc03.jpg

Please tell me that screen disappears into the dash and doesn't stay there, a la Mercedes...

[SeedBNR]

My god it looks awful..

[vexor]

http://www.mazda.com/stories/craftmanship/mx-5/mx-5_25th2/movie_photo/resource/img/wallpaper/wp04_pc03.jpg

Please tell me that screen disappears into the dash and doesn't stay there, a la Mercedes...

it looks like the same one found in the current gen Mazda3, therefore I doubt it'll go in/rise from the dash

[nsx042003]

I'm such a honda fanboy, i think i'll still hunt down a s2000 instead

[Ronin]

Seriously how much more expensive could an Audi-esque poppy uppy screen be to manufacturer compared to a weird looking bolt on afterthought?

[Maliuz]

Hell, just make it manual lift/close for the screen and I'd be happy.

[yray]

I wonder hows the screen gonna be like with the top down :troll:

[multicartual]

Needs more 302+T5

[Nabatron]

Have they even released the specs yet?

[hud 91gt]

Nailed it.

[multicartual]

Have they even released the specs yet?


How cool would the Miata be with a nice, high-revving small displacement (4.0 or so) V8?

[godwin]

Manufacture not much, but design and crash tests would cost quite a bit (as there will be multiple conditions). Also then the manufacturer are stuck with the size the screen that they had the design certified for.

Not to mention after a few years the mechanism gets slow as the plastic ages.. heck even on my Z4M the screen is not mechanized, it gets stuck once a while.

I am a bit disappointed after all the hype.. those taillights looks like a cheap version of Type F. ugh. I guess have to place the bets on the Alfa version.

Seriously how much more expensive could an Audi-esque poppy uppy screen be to manufacturer compared to a weird looking bolt on afterthought?

[godwin]

Skyactiv-G so pretty much polished internals like all Mazdas.

Wow, that looks great! What is the power going to be like?

[Gucci Mane]

i quite like the way it looks. so glad that it doesn't look like a chick car anymore.

[PDKGD3]

The new Mazda-Romero 4C drop top

[zetazeta]

Gallery with a ton of pics including interior shots

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Reveal Photo Gallery - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-reveal/full/#photo-2900117/)

[Tr1ll]

I think I like it

[freakshow]

I think it looks great. For most manufacturers nowadays, I'm just happy if they don't screw things up too badly on new models

[Nabatron]

was there a reason why the went with 4 bolt instead of 5 bolt patern?

[is350]

^cost cutting design. Less material used, more money saved

[flagella]

The front really reminds me of FRS/BRZ.

I gotta say dual exhaust would've looked better, although it'll add some weight. Given the design of the rear bumper, at least it's not designed specifically for single exhaust, so aftermarket dual exhaust is a possibility for those who want it I guess.

Reminds me of the time when I thought about switching to single from heavy stock dual exhaust on my s2k. Just couldn't get over the look and decided against it.

[cpt000]

Don't really like the front, particularly the headlights. The first gen had flip up headlights, and they were big and gave the Miata a friendly & cute appearance. The headlights have gotten smaller and this iteration makes it look more aggressive and predatory. (i.e. like other cars in the market)

I do like how they've slimmed down the wheel arches and I don't mind the back. Also like how they've dropped the door height for a more open feel.

[Cillu]

No one else but me thinks the rear taillights look bad?

[DragonChi]

I like the looks of this one better. The official one looks like BRZ/FRS as someone else has said.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/content/image/2/0/2016_mazda_mx_5_x_tomi_rendering_01_1-0121.jpg

[Acethriller]

Here's a nice closer look at the mx-5.

2016 Mazda MX-5 (Static shots) - YouTube

[supafamous]

The more I look at it, the more I like it. It has classic Miata cues but looks modern.

It does need wider 17" wheels and needs to be lowered by about an inch but it's going to be a head turner when it hits the streets.

[Verdasco]

pfff.... rather get a red FRS :troll:

[tofu1413]

was there a reason why the went with 4 bolt instead of 5 bolt patern?

more cheap wheel choices :awwyeah:

[Timpo]

specs?

[Timpo]

http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2014/09/06/147/images/001.jpg

[Timpo]

http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2014/09/06/147/images/039l.jpg
http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2014/09/06/147/images/038l.jpg

[Timpo]

http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom/747544.jpg

[pharmed]

I really like the back end, reminds me of Z4 or Lexus IS-like and sharp. Front end... not so sure yet. Doesn't really fit the aggressive Kodo theme they were going for with this gen.

I'd love to see the specs though.

[Timpo]

the rear end kinda looks Italian.

or maybe whole car does...I think it wouldn't surprise people if it had an Alfa Romeo or Fiat badge.

[Lomac]

the rear end kinda looks Italian.

or maybe whole car does...I think it wouldn't surprise people if it had an Alfa Romeo or Fiat badge.

I'm sure the fact that Alfa Romeo and Mazda are both partners on this venture might have something to do with that...

[68style]

I thought Alfa Romeo had dropped out of this project and it was going to be released as a Fiat now?

[c4@urdoor]

I feel bad for saying this, but the car looks like it has down syndrome. :/

[Nabatron]

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Specs Reportedly Leaked » AutoGuide.com News (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/09/2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-specs-reportedly-leaked.html)

heres a little tie bit for future miata buyers! If this shit is true mazda better not fuck up the specs on the rx7/rx9!!!!

[flagella]

What the flying fuck? Better be different trims.

[Qmx323]

And... from CAR Magazine:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwprk2hIIAAci00.jpg


http://www.aquariumofpacific.org/images/olc/whale_shark2.jpg


looks good otherwise

[Klondike]

I feel bad for saying this, but the car looks like it has down syndrome. :/

That Ko-derp design language.

[rcoccultwar]

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Specs Reportedly Leaked » AutoGuide.com News (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/09/2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-specs-reportedly-leaked.html)

heres a little tie bit for future miata buyers! If this shit is true mazda better not fuck up the specs on the rx7/rx9!!!!

50mpg? Should set the corporate CAFE scene well for the rx7/rx9. $50,000+ next gen Mazda/Toyota sports car looks 350hp+!

[sonick]

I remember reading there might be two engines available for this Miata, the more powerful one being FI and probably heavier.

The lower-powered engine is probably just so they can advertise the weight loss figure in the marketing.

Edit: for 320icar:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/14944_10152565328654902_3277229416383354201_n.jpg? oh=db486378021c9bc18830fffb0ce8d452&oe=54A6C499&__gda__=1417810596_f4cfc5979a1f228f4377ef987304331 0

[Timpo]

^ heavier? they're saying this Miata is 220 lbs lighter than previous gen.

[hud 91gt]

I can't believe it's lighter! That's rad. Although i'd like to see it with 150 RWP, it's still going to be a blast to drive no doubt. I'm glad they aren't trying to pack major HP into this package. The Miata has been successful as it is due to it being a fun, capable handling machine. Not a 1/4 mile monster.

[supafamous]

The North American will almost certainly have the 2.0L motor with between 160-180hp - Mazda has already said that North Americans want more power.

As for the 1.5L I don't think it'd be that slow for the kind of car it is. 2200lbs and 128hp with a 6 speed probably means a 0-60 of 7-7.5secs. Not fast but suitable for this kind of car.

[sonick]

^ heavier? they're saying this Miata is 220 lbs lighter than previous gen.

Yes but maybe the 2200lb kerb weight is with the 1.5l engine. With the larger engine it could be heavier than that 2200lb , but they have offer the option of a 1.5l just to hit that low weight figure even though they know it probably will be a low-volume seller.

Kinda like how advertising for condo developments will say 'Units starting from $199,999!' but really there is only one shitty studio in the whole development that is that price.

I am totally speculating from a marketing standpoint, the 2.0 could realistically be the same or close in weight as the 1.5l.

[Timpo]

ND Miata at Laguna Seca - YouTube

[rJZx]

^The front reminds me of this

http://lovatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/i-see-what-you-did-there-rage-face-meme.jpg

[Timpo]

how much power?

0-60mph?

[UFO]

I like that visually anyways it looks like a smaller car than prev gen. Also like the sloping hoodline, should be awesome for visibility and seeing the road.

[Verdasco]

the rear needs a change and the front needs to be more aggresive. what a dud!

[sonick]

First drive: 2015 Mazda MX-5 1.5 review | Autocar (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mazda/mx-5/first-drives/2015-mazda-mx-5-15-review)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=780h_oLMdLk

:clap:

[Timpo]

Yes but maybe the 2200lb kerb weight is with the 1.5l engine. With the larger engine it could be heavier than that 2200lb , but they have offer the option of a 1.5l just to hit that low weight figure even though they know it probably will be a low-volume seller.

Kinda like how advertising for condo developments will say 'Units starting from $199,999!' but really there is only one shitty studio in the whole development that is that price.

I am totally speculating from a marketing standpoint, the 2.0 could realistically be the same or close in weight as the 1.5l.

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata will rock 2.0L SkyActiv engine in US, 1.5L elsewhere (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/01/mazda-miata-mx5-2L-skyactiv/)

I don't think they would even bother offering 1.5L version in the USA just for a sake of hitting 2,200 lb claim.
Car enthusiasts are not that dumb and they will catch on that pretty quickly.

Also did they completely re-design the 2.0L engine? The 2.0L engine might be bored-up 1.5L engine or the 1.5L engine might be the sleeved down 2.0L engine.

I doubt Mazda will spend extra budget to completely re-design a new engine.

Look at GM, LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7...although they are different in displacement/power/torque, their components are very similar and I heard that they don't weigh that much different either.

I heard the same thing for Honda's K20, K24 etc...

[sonick]

It's not just me that thinks that...

Weight is a claimed 2200 pounds for the 1.5-liter car, but there’s no news on the mass front for the American-spec version. [...] We’re going to predict that our U.S. version will weigh in at less than 2400 pounds.

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-first-drive-review)

It is a different engine altogether, "similar to the one in the CX-5."

[mb_]

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata will rock 2.0L SkyActiv engine in US, 1.5L elsewhere (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/01/mazda-miata-mx5-2L-skyactiv/)

I don't think they would even bother offering 1.5L version in the USA just for a sake of hitting 2,200 lb claim.
Car enthusiasts are not that dumb and they will catch on that pretty quickly.

Also did they completely re-design the 2.0L engine? The 2.0L engine might be bored-up 1.5L engine or the 1.5L engine might be the sleeved down 2.0L engine.

I doubt Mazda will spend extra budget to completely re-design a new engine.

Look at GM, LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7...although they are different in displacement/power/torque, their components are very similar and I heard that they don't weigh that much different either.

I heard the same thing for Honda's K20, K24 etc...



^It's a different engine. The 2.0L is already used in CX-5, Mazda3 and Mazda 6

[Timpo]

It's not just me that thinks that...



2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-first-drive-review)

It is a different engine altogether, "similar to the one in the CX-5."

oh fuck, back in 1990s Nissan decided to ditch lighter and more powerful SR20DET and decided to put KA24DE.

I hope they're not doing the same thing.
At least this time, it'll be aluminum block..right?

[Timpo]

^It's a different engine. The 2.0L is already used in CX-5, Mazda3 and Mazda 6

So they completely re-designed 1.5L for global market except for North America?
What a waste of money. Could've lowered the development cost for sticking to 2.0L only.

[Timpo]

It says the 2.0L MX-5 will do 0-60mph in 6.5 sec (est.) and 1/4 mile in 15.0 sec (est.)

Finally catching up to the 1st gen Porsche Boxster

1997 Porsche Boxster
2.5L Flat-6, 201hp, 188lb-ft
0-60mph: 6.1 sec
1/4 mile: 14.7 sec
http://www.mynrma.com.au/media/porsche_boxster_1997.jpg

[blackGS?]

Might be apples and oranges
But say someone was nearing a
midlife crisis. 2016 MX-5 or
a used S2000?

[UFO]

Smallest Miata yet is what I'm interested in, combined with even say 160hp and decent torque out of the 2.0L. It doesn't need to be actually fast, it just needs to feel that way

I like that the current gen has the convenience and looks of the power hardtop, but no doubt it's extra heft and complexity in a platform really meant for simplicity, which the upcoming model is a return to.

[Timpo]

Vancouver Mazda Dealer

@ 1:10 - He says the new MX5 should lose 220 lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCRkY_LTQI8

[Timpo]

still no word on how much heavier 2.0L version will be?

[sonick]

Yes as I correctly suspected it's heavier:

At 2332 pounds, the manual-transmission, U.S.-spec, 2016 Miata isn’t as light as the global version—claimed to be 2200 pounds—but our model comes with a bigger, 2.0-liter engine.

2016 Mazda MX-5 Official Weight Figures Released ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/2016-mazda-mx-5-curb-weight-released-guess-how-many-previous-miatas-are-heavier/)

[dvst8]

Might be apples and oranges
But say someone was nearing a
midlife crisis. 2016 MX-5 or
a used S2000?

Both great cars and will probably offer equal amounts of fun. Just depends on your budget. I like the Miata but I'd get the S2k since it'll give me more value for the money spent.

[multicartual]

How much cam, intake and header could you put into the MX-5?

I wonder if the power plant will be a screamer or a dud

[Tone Loc]

Might be apples and oranges
But say someone was nearing a
midlife crisis. 2016 MX-5 or
a used S2000?

Plenty of people (for whatever reason) don't like buying used cars. Having a sports car with a warranty appeals to a lot of people. Personally I'd get the S2000, but if I didn't know how to work on cars and had to rely on a stealership for everything I'd go with the MX-5.

[ncrx]

Plenty of people (for whatever reason) don't like buying used cars. Having a sports car with a warranty appeals to a lot of people. Personally I'd get the S2000, but if I didn't know how to work on cars and had to rely on a stealership for everything I'd go with the MX-5.
Both great cars and will probably offer equal amounts of fun. Just depends on your budget. I like the Miata but I'd get the S2k since it'll give me more value for the money spent.


i recently am racing an s2000 at autox thanks to a kind friend which i've partnered with on this venture.

i love the way it drives i love the way it handles the power and the delivery

i do not love the s2000 tax on every freaking part and the fact the tops are all bunk and all have issues. if you want to get remotely competitve in an s2000, the good parts bend you over in the pocket book.
there is not necessarily more value for your dollar in an s2000, unless you are driving it completely stock.

the miata will always be cheaper just from sheer volume and aftermarket support.


im entering my late 30's and am not interested in fixing stuff i just want something that is generally problem free. you will not be getting that with a car anywhere from 8-15yrs old.

if you're just gonna daily it and want it cheap, i'd get the ND miata. it wont feel slow, but it will not be s2000 fast in a straightline nor have the same kind of excitement out of the box due to the funny s2000 rear toe curve. but a set of suspension for the nd miata could cure that at half the price a competitive set of s2000 suspension will run you. also if you've driven an NA miata with the 1.8l engine, im sure it will feel vaguely similar, except with 33% more torque and 20% more horsepower and a less flimsy chassis

i'm putting down a deposit on one for daily use, since i have the s2000 i can use for autocross.

[Akinari]

So, I'm legitimately saving up downpayment for one :badpokerface: going to be living the life of a hermit until I have one of these in my driveway.

Looked through so much info and videos and have convinced myself that this is the next car for me.

The only thing that is bugging me a little bit is conflicting reports online about what wheels the USDM Miata will have. Some sites say we'll only get the larger 17-inch standard (which I do not like, ruins the car's proportions), but some say the Sport (base model) will get the 16-inch wheels, which I prefer as the thicker tire look goes better with the ND.

I just hope Mazda offers the LSD with the base Sport model, otherwise I would have to go up to the Club model which I'm sure will not really be worth it in Canada, considering how much the Club model currently costs in Canada which is a ridiculous $36k...

[asian_XL]

The last Miata gets 2.0 170hp engine, this one gets 155hp. Why?

[Timpo]

The last Miata gets 2.0 170hp engine, this one gets 155hp. Why?

Because it has CX-5's Skyactive engine. Which is 155hp, 150lb-ft.
For whatever reason(exhaust layout?) they lost 2lb-ft so the new Miata will get 155hp, 148lb-ft.
This engine can run on regular, whereas current Miata requires premium.
You will get 8lb-ft more so I guess it's easy for city drive or highway cruise?

[Akinari]

Flatter torque curve I'm assuming?

Also I'm positive that the new Miata will be able to be tuned on 91/92/94, netting more power as a result.

[tastic]

Because it has CX-5's Skyactive engine. Which is 155hp, 150lb-ft.
For whatever reason(exhaust layout?) they lost 2lb-ft so the new Miata will get 155hp, 148lb-ft.



Not sure where you are getting that...their 155 hp/148lbft is the 2.0l skyactiv that is in the 2012 and 2013 mazda3. I have one.

[Timpo]

Flatter torque curve I'm assuming?

Also I'm positive that the new Miata will be able to be tuned on 91/92/94, netting more power as a result.

higher octane number does not mean you will necessarily get more power.

just because 94 is bigger number than 87, or one is labelled as "regular" and the other one is "supreme" or one is more expensive than the other, does not mean you will get more power.

it's a common myth you will get more power or burn cleaner if you put 94 octane into an engine that is designed for 87 octane.

the 87 octane should be labelled "fast" and 94 should be labelled "slow"
or "high spark point gas" or "low spark point gas" or whatever.

94 octane simply means that it's much harder to burn, preventing detonation during sudden compression of air.
Think of it as, higher number = higher combustion point.

[Akinari]

higher octane number does not mean you will necessarily get more power.

just because 94 is bigger number than 87, or one is labelled as "regular" and the other one is "supreme" or one is more expensive than the other, does not mean you will get more power.

it's a common myth you will get more power or burn cleaner if you put 94 octane into an engine that is designed for 87 octane.

the 87 octane should be labelled "fast" and 94 should be labelled "slow"
or "high spark point gas" or "low spark point gas" or whatever.

94 octane simply means that it's much harder to burn, preventing detonation during sudden compression of air.
Think of it as, higher number = higher combustion point.

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Also I'm positive that the new Miata will be able to be tuned on 91/92/94, netting more power as a result.
With bolt-ons, intake, exhaust, HFC or test pipe, plus a tune on premium gas, the car should make at least 5-10 more whp.

[asian_XL]

if you want power, then wait until a V8 kit comes.

I've driven a co-worker's stock 1st gen Miata 1.6L, it's fun to drive as is, A to B, open air and fuck around, but it is much more interesting to have V8 and large brakes. 2 personalities it can get.

[Timpo]

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http://www.les-perles-du-net.fr/uploads/owned-bike.jpg

[Akinari]

US official prices and outline of the three trims was released earlier today.

IRVINE, Calif., April 20, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- The wait is almost over, as North America-bound 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata production began today, signaling the imminent arrival of the next generation of the world's most popular two-seat roadster at U.S. dealers. Additionally, Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) has released pricing for the entire MX-5 range, including the first 1,000 cars earmarked as Launch Edition models.

"The three trim levels available – Sport, Club and Grand Touring – are tailored for three very different types of customers, broadening the MX-5's appeal," said Rod McLaughlin, MX-5 vehicle line manager, MNAO. "Whether customers opt for a Sport, Club, Grand Touring or Launch Edition, we're confident the new MX-5 will deliver the same owner passion, excitement and pride that have made the previous generations among the most beloved cars on the road or racetrack at any price point."

MX-5 Miata Launch Edition Limited Treats Buyers with Creature Comforts, Exclusivity
The 2016 MX-5 Launch Edition will comprise the first 1,000 fourth-generation roadsters sold in the U.S., carrying unique badging and with an MSRP of $30,1951. MX-5 Launch Edition comes equipped with features reserved for the MX-5 Grand Touring trim, in addition to Advanced Keyless entry, which is optional in other trim levels. All 1,000 Launch Editions are painted Soul Red with a Sport Tan leather interior – a combination exclusive to the Launch Edition for 2016.

To purchase an MX-5 Launch Edition, customers can currently preregister at 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Convertible Roadster | Mazda USA (http://www.LongLiveTheRoadster.com) and will receive a reminder email prior to orders opening on May 5. Customers will then have the opportunity to place a $500 deposit toward the purchase of a 2016 MX-5 Launch Edition, also providing them the opportunity to select a dealership from where they can take delivery. MX-5s are expected arrive in dealers starting late summer.

The Launch Edition's sole option will be the choice of a six-speed SKYACTIV-MT manual transmission or the six-speed automatic, the latter of which carries an MSRP of $31,2702.

"The MX-5 Launch Edition will give enthusiasts the opportunity to take ownership of one of the very first, very exclusive, 2016 MX-5s to arrive in the U.S.," said Jim O'Sullivan, president and CEO, MNAO. "Along with the privilege of exclusivity and being among the first 1,000 to take delivery, owners will be able to enjoy one of the purest expressions of open-top driving exhilaration available today as well as our latest entertainment, safety and luxury technologies – many of which are unique among sports cars."

Customers who take delivery of an MX-5 Launch Edition also will receive a Mazda-branded BOSE® SoundLink® Mini Bluetooth® speaker in a customized gift box, along with select items from Mazda's upcoming Heritage Collection apparel line.

MX-5 Sport to Have More Standard Features Than Previous Generation
At the opposite end of the MX-5 lineup, the 2016 MX-5 Sport has a starting MSRP of $24,9153, riding on 16-inch alloy wheels and carrying a host of new standard features such as a six-speed SKYACTIV-MT manual transmission, cruise control, LED headlights and tail lights, Bluetooth phone pairing and audio streaming, leather-wrapped shift knob, power door locks, single USB input and cruise control.

As in the Launch Edition and all models, an automatic transmission option is available as a $1,075 option. Advanced Keyless entry is available for $130 (standard with automatic transmission).

MX-5 Club and Grand Touring Personalize Roadster Experience
Those who want to step up to a higher level of content will have a choice between distinct trim packages: the distilled, performance-focused MX-5 Club or MX-5 Grand Touring, lavished in premium amenities and technology.

MX-5 Club has a starting MSRP of $28,6004 and adds 17-inch gunmetal alloy wheels wrapped in 205/45R17 tires, front air dam and trunk-mounted rear lip spoiler, piano black seat back bars and exterior mirror caps, MAZDA CONNECT™ with a seven-inch touchscreen infotainment system and commander control knob and an AM/FM/HD/SiriusXM® satellite radio with a nine-speaker BOSE® audio system with headrest speakers – all in addition to MX-5 Sport's standard equipment. A limited-slip rear differential, Bilstein® shocks and shock-tower brace are standard when equipped with the manual transmission.

Additionally, MX-5 Club is available with a package that equips it with forged, lightweight BBS 17-inch wheels, Brembo® front brake rotors and calipers with painted front and rear calipers, functional aerodynamic side sill extensions and rear bumper skirt.

Moving to MX-5 Grand Touring endows the roadster with 17-inch bright alloy wheels, leather-trimmed heated seats, automatic climate control, BOSE® nine-speaker audio system with headrest speakers, AM/FM/HD/SiriusXM® radio, MAZDA CONNECT™ with and seven-inch touchscreen monitor, commander control knob, Homelink® garage door opener, rain-sensing wipers and adaptive headlights in addition to MX-5 Sport's standard equipment. Mazda's i-ACTIVSENSE suite of safety features including blind spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert and lane-departure warning. MX-5 Grand Touring has an MSRP of $30,0655.

Smaller, lighter and more focused, the 2016 MX-5 is purpose-built with one goal in mind: providing the thrills and wind-in-the-hair driving experience that only the MX-5 can deliver. At 2,332 lbs. when equipped with SKYACTIV-MT (2,381 lbs. with the automatic transmission), MX-5 is approximately 150 lbs. lighter than the vehicle it replaces as a result of Mazda's efficient SKYACTIV®6 TECHNOLOGY. MX-5's lighter weight, enhanced technologies and greater performance should help ensure that the 26th year of the MX-5 will be just as exciting from behind the wheel as the first 25 have been.

Mazda North American Operations is headquartered in Irvine, Calif., and oversees the sales, marketing, parts and customer service support of Mazda vehicles in the United States and Mexico through nearly 700 dealers. Operations in Mexico are managed by Mazda Motor de Mexico in Mexico City. For more information on Mazda vehicles, including photography and B-roll, please visit the online Mazda media center at Welcome | Mazda USA Media (http://www.mazdausamedia.com).

So, given that US pricing of the ND Miata has gone up across the board for all three trim levels, particularly the Club that is around $3,000 more than the current NC Club, I think it's safe to assume that given the Canadian starting price of the Club at its current $36,000ish, it's very likely that the Club will be nearly $40,000 before taxes and fees, or very close to that number :heckno: do not want a $40,000 Miata thanks.

As I predicted, I'm going to be sticking with the base Sport trim that comes w with the 16" wheels, which I actually prefer over the 17" wheels aesthetically, the proportions just seem to work better with the styling of the ND. I'm guessing it'll start at $30,000 here in Canada, a little bit more than the current starting price is for the NC Sport.

Still crossing my fingers for the option to add an LSD onto the base Sport trim, otherwise I'll have to grab an aftermarket one, unless the diff is the same as the NC so I can find a used LSD from an NC :badpokerface:

Leaked packaging of the Canadian trims. GX doesn't come in red, that's a deal breaker for me, especially if the GS still costs what it does now which is around $40k after taxes :okay: Going to cross my fingers that there's a price drop in the GS to under $35k...

http://www.thephotobooth.net/photos/i-LpzKgmD/0/O/i-LpzKgmD.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n88/03terminator/ndcol1.jpg

[lowside67]

Yeah I go back and forth on red cars, but I have to say the red that Mazda has offered on some of its latest 2013+ models is a spectacular looking colour - just dark enough and with enough sparkle to look really premium and stunning, I'm a huge fan of that.

Mark

[2damaxmr2]

FRS is still a better deal. But the Mx5 is much lighter and the engine has proven to be quite reliable.

[Akinari]

FRS is still a better deal. But the Mx5 is much lighter and the engine has proven to be quite reliable.
How is the FRS a better deal, aside from the fact that you get an LSD in the base model because there is only one model :lawl:, and 200hp? These are two very different cars, hard to compare them together, especially when the a Sport/GX manual ND weighs nearly 430lbs less than a manual FRS. Can't go off the reviews of the JDM/EDM 1.5L model to judge how the US-spec car will be like. I would not be surprised if the ND is quicker than the FRS, even with a horsepower deficit.

[Timpo]

How is the FRS a better deal, aside from the fact that you get an LSD in the base model because there is only one model :lawl:, and 200hp? These are two very different cars, hard to compare them together, especially when the a Sport/GX manual ND weighs nearly 430lbs less than a manual FRS. Can't go off the reviews of the JDM/EDM 1.5L model to judge how the US-spec car will be like. I would not be surprised if the ND is quicker than the FRS, even with a horsepower deficit.

yeah it's not all about how quick or how cheap it is.

Miata has 26 years of proven reputation and history.
Just like Porsche 911, it has not changed a lot.

Whereas Toyota 86(Scion FRS) is kind of a successor to Celica(FWD coupe) and even before that Celica used to be 4WD Turbo. (see how it changed a lot and didn't retain base platform)

If price or bang for buck factor was that important, Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky would've killed Miata long time ago.

[hud 91gt]

Corolla ;)

[Vulgate]

Wow! 36MPG for auto on the highway for the ND. that is good. http://wot.motortrend.com/1504_2016_mazda_miata_fuel_economy_tops_out_at_36_ mpg_hwy.html Hopefully the gearing is better than the NC. If I recall, driving my NC at 100KM/hr require around 3500rpm.

[UFO]

If price or bang for buck factor was that important, Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky would've killed Miata long time ago.

How do you figure? Both the Solstice and Sky were not much cheaper than the Miata, not as well designed ergonomically and not as well put together and finished, and also not as practical given the 'trunk' that it offers. Neither really handle all that well, and they don't offer any power advantage unless you move up to the 260hp turbo versions which were even more overpriced so that takes the price/bang for buck factor out of the equation

[Traum]

Wow! 36MPG for auto on the highway for the ND. that is good. 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Fuel Economy Tops Out at 36 MPG Hwy (http://wot.motortrend.com/1504_2016_mazda_miata_fuel_economy_tops_out_at_36_ mpg_hwy.html) Hopefully the gearing is better than the NC. If I recall, driving my NC at 100KM/hr require around 3500rpm.
Fuel economy for the ND Miata is obviously very good. However, depending on how you look at it, it could also be rather disappointing. The same engine in the current Mazda3 gets better mileage and a very slightly higher peak torque, and the Miata is a significantly lighter car.

The EPA also lists that the ND is recommended to use premium gas. I suspect that one is probably just a typo, but we will see when something official comes out of Mazda.

[Timpo]

Fuel economy for the ND Miata is obviously very good. However, depending on how you look at it, it could also be rather disappointing. The same engine in the current Mazda3 gets better mileage and a very slightly higher peak torque, and the Miata is a significantly lighter car.

The EPA also lists that the ND is recommended to use premium gas. I suspect that one is probably just a typo, but we will see when something official comes out of Mazda.

Lighter car does not mean better fuel economy.
I suspect it has something to do with close gear ratio? more drag from tire and aerodynamics?

Prime example is Lotus Elise. The 1.8L 4cyl engine got much better gas mileage with much heavier Celica.

Same as Lotus Evora and Toyota Camry.

[Traum]

Lighter car does not mean better fuel economy.
I suspect it has something to do with close gear ratio? more drag from tire and aerodynamics?

Prime example is Lotus Elise. The 1.8L 4cyl engine got much better gas mileage with much heavier Celica.

Same as Lotus Evora and Toyota Camry.
In this case, let's look at a couple of things:

The ND Miata is roughly 450 - 500 lbs lighter than the Mazda3. Let's think about that for a minute. 500 lbs lighter! I dunno about you, but I know that when I am driving all by myself, the fuel economy is a heck of a lot better than when I am driving a car with 3 extra people in it. In the ND Miata's case, it translates into almost 20% less weight than the 3.

Based on the facts that we already know, it is extremely likely that the ND Miata and the Mazda3 share a highly similar engine. There is talk that the Mazda3 may in fact have a "better" implementation of the engine because it incorporates a proper SkyActiv header that is more free-flowing, and the specs certainly suggest this as well -- both the ND and the Mazda3 have a max hp of 155, but the Mazda3 beats the Miata in torque by a mere 2 lb-ft at 150 vs 148. With engine output as similar as that, I'd suspect that the engine tuning between the 2 versions of the same engine has to be quite similar as well.

Aero is not a topic that I am too familiar with, but I will say that the ND will almost certain have a smaller frontal area than the 3 since the car sit much lower. The shape of the soft top is probably nowhere nearly as slippery as a fully formed greenhouse.

[svelt]

Wow this car looks awesome. I think it's time we put to rest any silly notion that anyone still has the miata is a "chick's" car from its na/nb days. Would love to test drive one of these when it comes into the dealerships

[Akinari]

Wow this car looks awesome. I think it's time we put to rest any silly notion that anyone still has the miata is a "chick's" car from its na/nb days. Would love to test drive one of these when it comes into the dealerships
Supposed to arrive late summer :toot: Almost thinking of buying an NA just to get myself in the Miata mood before buying an ND :awwyeah:

[Traum]

Supposed to arrive late summer :toot: Almost thinking of buying an NA just to get myself in the Miata mood before buying an ND :awwyeah:
NA track car, ND daily.

[ncrx]

NA track car, ND daily.

Never track a car u aren't OK with writing off

I personally would never track my new car... That's just me. Shit happens and I wouldn't like to be stuck with the bill.

[Lomac]

Never track a car u aren't OK with writing off

I personally would never track my new car... That's just me. Shit happens and I wouldn't like to be stuck with the bill.

Which is why an NA Miata is the perfect choice. Great track car out of the box and they're cheap enough that if you write it off, it wont break the bank.

[Matsuda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-tAbwbtVP4

[AzNightmare]

I like the styling of the body, but hate how puny the headlights are.

[IMASA]

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata vs. 2015 Subaru BRZ Comparison - Motor Trend (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/convertibles/1506_2016_mazda_mx_5_vs_2015_subaru_brz_comparison/)

Day two starts at our test track, where the 155-hp MX-5 covers the 60-mph dash in 5.8 seconds, a half second quicker than the Subie and 0.3 second quicker than the previous 167-hp Miata (despite 10 percent taller gearing). It's still 0.4 second ahead at the quarter mile (14.5 versus 14.9 seconds), though the BRZ catches up by 100 mph.


Pretty nice numbers from the Miata. Faster than the old Mazdaspeed Miata as well.

[noclue]

$35K + taxes for a mid option miata hmm..

Used AP2 S2000 in decent condition are around $26K-$30K

Choices! Im leaning to the miata though

[Traum]

The ND is both a serious performer and a serious bargain. The $26-30k AP2 are easily 6-7 years old, if not older. As such, they'll come with all the issues that a typical 6-7 year old car faces. Of course, IMO, the S2k is still much more of a looker than the ND, and that might be an important consideration for some.

[boatcaptain]

opps :p

[tonyzoomzoom]

3 posts above yours...

[Matsuda]

compilation of reviews rolling in

U.S.-Spec 2016 ND Miata MX-5 Review Roundup (http://ineptechs.com/reviews/u-s-spec-2016-nd-mx-5-miata-review-roundup/)

[supafamous]

The ND is both a serious performer and a serious bargain. The $26-30k AP2 are easily 6-7 years old, if not older. As such, they'll come with all the issues that a typical 6-7 year old car faces. Of course, IMO, the S2k is still much more of a looker than the ND, and that might be an important consideration for some.

The S2K has aged pretty well but I'll still take the looks of the ND particularly in Soul Red with the black BBS wheels. Needs a 1.5" lowering though - that wheel gap is like a NC1.

Sub 6 second 0-60 with only 155hp is some serious business! That amazing performance for so little rated HP.

Hmm...5 year old Boxster or new ND....

[Akinari]

Hmm...5 year old Boxster or new ND....
A car you'll need to pour in your life savings for maintenance or repairs, or a car you can enjoy and not have to worry about the above issue pretty much ever?

[DavidNguyen]

been checking this car out on youtube. car actually looks pretty nice, but way to pricy
starts @ 30k-40k yikes!!!

[Traum]

been checking this car out on youtube. car actually looks pretty nice, but way to pricy
starts @ 30k-40k yikes!!!
Actually, people have worked out the price compared to the original 1989 Miata, and after adjusting for inflation, the price of the 89 car and the current 16 car are about the same.

[Energy]

But back then there was less competition. No FRS/BRZ, Genesis Coupe, base 370z etc.

This Miata should really be under 30k.

[Traum]

At the time when the 1989 Miata came out, there was no competition at all. All the British roadsters were fading away, both due to market demands and reliability issues. That's why the original NA was such a runaway success.

When all the factors are taken into account, I'd still say the ND is competitively priced. Compared to everything else that people might also consider, it is a featherweight that turns in some very impressive performance numbers. Compared to the FRS/BRZ, in particular, it handily out-performs the FRS/BRZ in both acceleration and handling. Some might also consider its convertible top to be an asset worth paying more for, although this very same fact might also be a deterrent for certain buyers.

The biggest problem people have when it comes to the Miata is, they can't get over the fact that it is "only" a 155hp car. I entirely agree that the engine should have been higher performing, with something closer to 170hp being a far more marketable figure. But as it is, I find the current ND pricing to be appropriate for its performance, esp in comparison to its market competitors.

Of course, a lot of buyers would disagree since many of them are conditioned to the HP = performance mindset.

[ncrx]

But back then there was less competition. No FRS/BRZ, Genesis Coupe, base 370z etc.

This Miata should really be under 30k.

its mostly aluminum, has multilink suspension, open top, and has come in 200 or so pounds lighter than its predecessor, and from the online pics and reviews it looks to be far more upscale than previous miatas. weight loss costs money specially in this day n age where nearly 3000lbs is considered light.

its priced right

if the miata should be under 30k
the frs brz should start at 21k
its made up of spare parts, clean sheet design and they threw the worst possible front suspension on a car , and used a yaris quality dash on it.
its a wrx with 2 less doors and an inferior motor, which can be had for 29k

i've spent the past couple years racing various cars from s2000's from stock to full str prepped, frs stock to stx prepped, miatas in various states of modification, civics, golfs, crx's, my pulsar, a vette
and at the end of the day.. i enjoyed the ef civic/crx, miata, and s2000's the most. and you know what they all had in common, a good multilink suspension and were fairly lightweight. i hated the golf, my pulsar frustrates me and the frs didnt excite me but is fairly easy to drive quickly.

plus an open top has a certain appeal after u spend enough time with one.

[DavidNguyen]

https://youtu.be/cqn7aEEHJoM

[tastic]

Arrival of the first fleet in North America. Should see them soon.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/01/d2273e900b27affe43dce8449f8d0278.jpg

[Gucci Mane]

so many red ones. lol

[tastic]

Guessing the majority of these are "launch edition" which only comes in red with tan interior.

[multicartual]

Never track a car u aren't OK with writing off

I personally would never track my new car... That's just me. Shit happens and I wouldn't like to be stuck with the bill.


Oh god I remember someone posted a link on Supraforums(?) not too sure, can't remember, but someone bought like a brand new GT-R, M3, Z06 or some super sick sports car and wrote it off in like the first 30 minutes of track time. Owed like 100k and he was parting it out. What a brutal story, guy was not loaded or anything.


Was a few years back, wonder what happened to him...

[flagella]

Well it sounds like he was a fucking idiot who needed to learn a lesson.

Not loaded will not go well with GTR/M3/Z06 and tracking.

[DavidNguyen]

anyone seen these at the dealership yet?
i saw a black one. front is very nice. rear is okay. something about the quarter panel i dislike.

[sonick]

https://youtu.be/PkkGGGl1SQg

[Akinari]

Mmmm aftermarket over in Japan is already getting to work. Also this instagram account has a ton of modded NDs plus a bunch of aftermarket parts and wheels, pretty awesome https://instagram.com/rev9autosport/

HKS developing full bolt ons, suspension and a supercharger for the ND

http://drifting.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Miata-Monday-HKS-HKSUSA-HIPERMAX-Miata-roadster-ND-Advan-madeinJapan.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IewXKdU.jpg

RS Factory Stage

http://i.imgur.com/HadLw9M.jpg

Garage Vary

http://i.imgur.com/ypial0u.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6xt84GA.jpg

Integral Kobe
http://i.imgur.com/1S6Ec2h.jpg

Jetstream front lip
http://i.imgur.com/ky8FZfv.jpg

Esqueleto seats
http://i.imgur.com/X7AGiVd.jpg

:megusta:

[flagella]

Supercharger will make this car amazing.

[blackGS?]

Stock vs. Stock still partial to this one

[blackGS?]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm198/alparayno/2f7ed5481bda991346dd985a8f24bb96x_zpstjjucv6m.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/alparayno/media/2f7ed5481bda991346dd985a8f24bb96x_zpstjjucv6m.jpg. html)

[Galactic_Phantom]

automatic on that last picture :heckno:

[Nabatron]

need to drop alot of money to make this car fast and look good!

[320icar]

^^ no different than any other Miata.

I sure miss my NA though

[Akinari]

need to drop alot of money to make this car fast and look good!
So assuming one goes for the GX, which is already $35k taxes and fees in, it'll be at least another $5-10k depending on how deep the owner wants to jump in before the car can "keep up" with others in the same price category, i.e. WRX (yes I know they're very different cars but just using it for comparison). So by that point the ND is already a $40-$45k car easy.

[boatcaptain]

went to richmond auto mall to see the nd
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/jc8899311/nd_zpsdc4pabqv.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/jc8899311/media/nd_zpsdc4pabqv.jpg.html)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/jc8899311/nd3_zpsnsnfzbsk.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/jc8899311/media/nd3_zpsnsnfzbsk.jpg.html)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/jc8899311/nd4_zpsgwkegprp.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/jc8899311/media/nd4_zpsgwkegprp.jpg.html)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/jc8899311/nd2_zpsj3s9bdlg.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/jc8899311/media/nd2_zpsj3s9bdlg.jpg.html)

[ncrx]

So assuming one goes for the GX, which is already $35k taxes and fees in, it'll be at least another $5-10k depending on how deep the owner wants to jump in before the car can "keep up" with others in the same price category, i.e. WRX (yes I know they're very different cars but just using it for comparison). So by that point the ND is already a $40-$45k car easy.

an frs couldnt keep up with a wrx either in a straight line

not everything is straight line related

[Klondike]

Spotted my first ND this morning. Looks aggressive from the front. :ahwow:

[KO7]

Checked out the red one at Signature today too. Shame the GS model doesn't have adaptive lighting or the passenger headrest speakers + subwoofer. The cloth seats also feel really cheap, although they are comfortable.

Will be interesting to see how much the Recaro alcantara seats go for next year bundled with the BBS / Brembo package.

[Akinari]

an frs couldnt keep up with a wrx either in a straight line

not everything is straight line related
I never said anything about straight line. The Miata has a pretty big power deficit compared to the WRX if we're only comparing price points which is actually very similar. In terms of weight there is also a big difference, but the starting price of the ND just makes the WRX seem all that more appealing, to me at least.

[DavidNguyen]

Checked out the red one at Signature today too. Shame the GS model doesn't have adaptive lighting or the passenger headrest speakers + subwoofer. The cloth seats also feel really cheap, although they are comfortable.

Will be interesting to see how much the Recaro alcantara seats go for next year bundled with the BBS / Brembo package.

ive been looking at every video review on youtube about the ND
they say its about $3500 or so more for that package. not sure if USD or CAD
but why would you need brembos on a car like this?

[Nabatron]

^lol exactly

[Akinari]

The car weighs like nothing, why the hell would you need a BBK unless you weigh 500lbs or something? Probably needs a good set of pads and stainless steel brake lines is all.

[ncrx]

The car weighs like nothing, why the hell would you need a BBK unless you weigh 500lbs or something? Probably needs a good set of pads and stainless steel brake lines is all.

some of it is pedal feel, some of it is unsprung mass reduction
and most of it is the ability for a quick pad change at a track day. a cotter pin caliper u can do a pad change in about 30 seconds
some of its bling as well

its not actually a bbk, its just a caliper change

[Matsuda]

https://youtu.be/gDLKwTdurxg

[tofu1413]

ah.

another one to add to the list for sub 10k toys 10-15 years from now. :megusta:

[Galactic_Phantom]

Spotted my first ND this morning. Looks aggressive from the front. :ahwow:

Really. I thought it looked rather bland and tiny in the front

[UFO]

Spotted my first ND this morning. Looks aggressive from the front. :ahwow:

I like the front, lukewarm on the back, only on their own. Something is off with the way they are put together on the ND, IMO. Maybe it will get better with more time.

I'm also not a big fan of how the rear end resembles the Z4 and Jag so much. Kind of wish they kept some of the bubbly tail lights personality from the previous NA/NB/NC. I get they are trying to make this car look less girly to appeal to the masses, but at the end of the day all small convertibles will always be known as cute girly cars regardless of their performance numbers or potential. The ND is just in denial about this

[DavidNguyen]

so you can now build your new miata on the mazda website.

[E-SPEC]

Still a woman's car. :troll:

[jjson]

Full interview with vehicle development engineer:

2016 MX-5 Miata: Coleman Interview - Driving Sports TV (http://www.drivingsports.com/2016-mx-5-miata-coleman-interview/)

[Energy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLtw2z_mZ6w

Result is as expected...