[rcoccultwar]

2015 Dodge Viper Price Dropped $15,000 to Boost Sales - Motor Trend (http://wot.motortrend.com/1409_2015_dodge_viper_srt_price_dropped_15000_to_b oost_sales.html)

Dodge has chopped $15,000 off of the entry price for the 2015 Dodge Viper SRT, in the midst of sluggish sales which it has denied to be cause for concern. Sticker price for the outgoing 2014 SRT Viper was a heady $101,880 (including destination), but the updated 2015 Dodge Viper SRT will enjoy a sizable price drop to $86,990.....In addition to the monumental price cut on new cars at the showroom, existing owners of the current-gen Viper (previously sold as the SRT Viper) will be awarded a $15,000 certificate toward the purchase of a new Viper. When all is said and done, current Gen 5 Viper owners could walk away with a 645-hp supercar for $71,990 -- a discount of nearly a third compared to the car's previous sticker price.


Not sure if current Gen 5 owner can pass the savings down to another owner? That would price a 2015 Viper in the same ballpark as the 2015 Stingray!

[twitchyzero]

would mere mortals that can afford Vipers still drop $70K on a domestic due to the steep depreciation?

unless you must have a rearward cabin and 6 speed, i see many of its demographic opting for the safer option ie. M4 or GT-R

[boostfever]

because of the ZO6 pricing announced on Friday sept 5th.
gotta love competition

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/99686207c50364932dcf84c769e3aeff/200627582/chevy-corvette-z06-vert-1-1.jpg
The upcoming Corvette Z06 pricing starts at $78,995 for the coupe and $83,995 for the convertible. Both those figures include destination, but don't include things like tax, title, license and optional equipment. And as we revealed when the order guide surfaced, there is some enticing optional equipment on offer.

An extra $2,995 will get you the Carbon Fiber Ground Effects package with enhanced aero. $7,995 will get you the Z07 Performance Package with Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes, upgraded tires and even more aggressive aero. There are three trim levels available and a host of other packages and options you can read all about in the press release below, from the Premium Package leather trim to the Performance Data Recorder.

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/attachments/stingray-corvette-news/6143d1397283737-gm-officially-presents-z06-convertible-2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-convertible-photo-588485-s-1280x782.jpg

[rcoccultwar]

Never seen a new Viper on the road yet, let alone talk to the owner of one :( Would be a bit of an insult to ask a Gen 5 owner to help out? Maybe even leave a bad taste after all is said and done..

Would the dealer accept this?

[Shark Tank]

Been looking at Vipers and they are not selling. Overpriced as everyone either get European for $120K CDN or buy the cheaper C7 which is just as good.

Car needs to be in 75-80K range to sell well IMO.

All the Vipers in Vancouver are still on CL trying to be sold but each week I see the same ads congesting the Car classifides

[smoothie.]

Lol dodge way to screw it all up

[shenmecar]

Still too pricey for a car that wants to kill the driver.

[nsx042003]

does that apply to Canadian dealers?

[rcoccultwar]

Some snap shots of the car look amazing! Can recall another tentacle being the Mitsubishi GTO? Viper's pretty much the same price as a new VR-4 25years ago.

[dhari]

does that apply to Canadian dealers?

no :alone:

[xpl0sive]

because of the ZO6 pricing announced on Friday sept 5th.
gotta love competition

any word on Canadian Z06 pricing?

[BoostedBB6]

I will take the Z06 thanks :)

[freakshow]

haven't magazine raced either of them yet, but in the looks department, viper wins hands down imo.

[white rocket]

The Viper is an iconic car with great bang for buck in terms of power. From a depreciation standpoint, yes they take a big hit like all others, but they do retain some value over a longer period of time. Late 90's GTS models still pull a hefty asking price. So if you are looking to keep it for a while then it's not that bad of a deal.

That said, I'll take the new Z06 any day of the week.

[tegra7]

Still too pricey for a car that wants to kill the driver.

Reminded me of this: Chrysler Engineer Killed Driving 2013 SRT Viper - Street Legal TV (http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/chrysler-engineer-killed-driving-2013-srt-viper/)
:heckno:

[optiblue]

seen the new corvette and it looks amazing! Almost looks kind of like supercar if it's in red/yellow. The viper... eck... looks the same as when it first came out

[boostfever]

any word on Canadian Z06 pricing?

Not yet!

[- kT]

that side exit exhaust on the viper though :D

seen the z06 in person, looks gorgeous. pretty tough choice if youre not partial to one or the other

[Ford_Fanatic]

Styling wise, I think I prefer the more (elegant?!) styling of the Viper over the boy-racer look of the Z06. The thing looks like it plowed through the styling aisle of Pep-Boys.

Performance wise, Z06 all the way.

[Phil@rise]

Still too pricey for a car that wants to kill the driver.

The most exciting cars to drive are the ones that require attention and know how. Some people are into a little more than missionary.

[dhari]

+10 ....V10:fullofwin:

[Hondaracer]

Damn...that Z06 vert..

[underscore]

Styling-wise the Viper crushes the Vette, and long term resale I would imagine is better too (but a bit more of a niche market).

Although for that money there are a lot of cars that I'd prefer before either of them.

[Akinari]

Love the Viper, it's definitely an icon, regardless of price.

Honestly, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but if I was in the market for a Viper, and I knew about all the details and was passionate about the Viper, I certainly wouldn't be crossing shopping any other car, especially something like a GTR, with a Viper.

It's sad there are not enough on the street. The only few I've ever seen in the flesh were at Richmond Chrysler, and on the street when I was in LA.

It's truly the definition of badass.

[heleu]

Editorial on how it went wrong for the Viper

Rants - Autoextremist.com ~ the bare-knuckled, unvarnished, high octane truth... (http://www.autoextremist.com/)

HOW IT ALL WENT WRONG FOR THE VIPER.
DateTUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 2014 AT 12:26PM
By Peter M. De Lorenzo

Detroit. By now, most people who follow this industry know that FCA has chopped $15,000 from the Dodge Viper’s sticker price of $100,000, which translates into a stunning admission that the cult sports car is, for all intents and purposes, dead in the water.

How could this happen, you might ask? How could the vaunted Viper end up in the fire sale dustbin, a forlorn afterthought in this red-hot market?

I’m not going to regurgitate the car’s history because if you don’t know it by now, you can look it up elsewhere. I am going to talk about what happened to the Viper after Chrysler went bankrupt, and how the Viper went from nowhere, to reborn, to bust.

Back in 2010, when Chrysler was on the ropes and the Obama administration was forced to give the company to Sergio Marchionne and his espresso-swilling minions for a song, the Viper was officially mothballed. The company didn’t have the resources to support it, and it languished in the “what used to be” file at the now Italian-owned company.

But Ralph Gilles, Chrysler’s chief True Believer and one of the most committed – and talented – executives in the business, just wouldn’t let go of the idea of bringing the Viper back. His team was just as committed to the car as he was and they were all chomping at the bit to resurrect their pride and joy, and thus it was Gilles’ duty and calling to lobby Marchionne to return the Viper to the fray.

As anyone who reads this column knows, Marchionne is a prickly person to deal with. His ego defies gravity, he views the car company formerly known as Chrysler as a cash machine that exists to prop up the perpetually failing Fiat - one of the most miserable excuses for a car company extant - and he views the American car business as somewhat provincial and well, beneath him. Oh, he loves the money alright, and the gushing praise that the intermittently pathetic automotive media in this country seems to bestow on him at the drop of a hat, but beyond that he couldn't care less. And this was the guy that Ralph Gilles had to convince that the Viper was worthy of bringing back to life.

But there’s one more thing you need to know about Marchionne within the context of this story, and that is that he takes a dim view of American high-performance machines. He dismisses them as unsophisticated sledgehammers and completely devoid of the kind of passion that the Italians are known for when it comes to their idea of a high-performance machine, specifically Ferrari, unsurprisingly. Those Hellcat-powered machines that have the enthusiast community buzzing? If they make money, fine, but it’s nowhere near Marchionne’s cup of finely crafted espresso.

So into the breach went Ralph Gilles, lobbying and cajoling Marchionne to let him and his team bring the Viper back. And after a while, Marchionne agreed, but in classic Sergio fashion, he told Gilles he had to do it on the cheap, that whatever the number Ralph needed to pull it off he had to do it for less than that. Much less.

Which, as most suppliers dealing with Sergio and his minions have found out (the hard way, I might add), is standard operating procedure for the carpetbagging Italians ensconced in Auburn Hills. They want something for nothing, or they want to cut a supplier’s number in half before they’ll even negotiate (ask any major supplier doing business with FCA, especially the ones who said “no more” and walked away, and they all say the exact same thing too). In other words, they’re relentlessly cheap bastards, led by the cheapest bastard of them all.

So Ralph Gilles and Co. went to work on resuscitating the Viper, but in the euphoria of working on “their” car again, the painful reality set in: They couldn’t do what they wanted to do with the car. They couldn’t even come close, in fact. So what they were left with after all of that was a “new” fifth-generation Viper that in the harsh light of day didn’t look new at all.

In fact I was there at the unveiling of the “new” Viper at the New York Auto Show that spring and the response was muddled. They brought the old Viper back the crowd seemed to say, but where was the new one? Underwhelming, in other words.

Oh, the Viper-isti were happy that their car was back, but selling to Viper stalwarts wasn’t nearly enough to sustain the car in a market that was simply overflowing with hot new performance cars from Audi, BMW, Ford, Chevrolet, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche.

So a not-so-new Viper was expected to compete in this hotly contested high-performance arena with dated clothes on. Yes, it was a Viper all right, but the newness wore off the moment they took the wraps off of it, and beyond the hardcore Viper fanatics, the car simply didn’t move the needle.

But the death knell for the new Viper came when they announced the prices for it. Yes, it was a Viper and it had gobs of serious horsepower, and it was cool and all of that, but $100,000? An instant nonstarter, especially when you can get a brand-spanking-new Corvette loaded up with decent options for $35,000 - $40,000 less, not to mention all the other serious high-performance machines out there that are in the same price range but that aren’t tagged with the “throwback” moniker or resembling a re-hashed execution, as in something everyone has seen before.

So now, here we are. A $15,000 slash on the sticker price for the Viper. And anyone who bought the new car will get a $15,000 certificate good for a new Viper purchase, although somehow I don’t think that’s going to fly with many people. Not to mention all the bad press associated with it, including just how dismal the sales numbers are for the car, as in 38 Vipers sold in August, total. Yeah, ouch.

Will that be enough? The short answer? No.

If the Viper is to survive, let alone thrive, Ralph Gilles and the True Believers out in Auburn Hills need a brand-new car, not one that is a re-hash of what has come before but an all-new car bristling with everything they know to be righteous and good, including the Hellcat engine. (Yeah, I know, Viper purists just fell to the ground suffering apoplectic fits, but get over it. If there’s a new Viper, that’s what it will be powered by.)

But then again, will there be a new Viper? How about no? Why? Because Sergio couldn’t care less. Take a look at what The Great Sergio is up to (see “On The Table”) vis-à-vis Ferrari and you’ll know why. He wants to get rid of Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo so he can get his hands on Ferrari and start dumbing down the brand with his endless schemes of platform sharing while pumping various nameplates up (Maserati, Alfa Romeo) with heretofore exclusive Ferrari technology and calling it good – and supremely profitable, by the way - which for Sergio is the only thing that matters.

Yeah, you heard me correctly. The Master Manipulator and consummate deal maker wants to take control of Ferrari, which, if you’ve been taking away anything from reading my columns over the years is nothing less than a giant pasta bowl of Not Good.

In fact it may be The End of The World for enthusiasts’ as we know it, because The Great Sergio will not stop until Ferrari is but a steaming hulk by the side of the road, a mere shadow of itself that has been brutalized and marginalized and left for dead.

I sense the chill of an early fall.

And that’s the High-Octane Truth for this week.

[GotRice?]

viper lol

http://i.italiansubs.net/?i=dsqQyTW.pngi
http://i.italiansubs.net/?i=JoHJbd6.pngi

and this lol

http://i.italiansubs.net/?i=v3hPTUQ.pngi
http://i.italiansubs.net/?i=l0C3uVq.pngi
http://i.italiansubs.net/?i=eis8bsF.pngi

[multicartual]

Old fat brits who look like they've never worked out a day in their life


They don't understand the appeal of the Viper at all

[rcoccultwar]

@Heleu, would like to fail you but obviously you weren't the author.

"Editor's Note: As feared, it was announced today that Luca Cordero di Montezemelo will step down from his role as chairman of Ferrari effective October 13th. He will be replaced by FCA CEO Sergio Marchionne. Not Good doesn't even begin to cover it, as Peter would say. WG"

If they can take the profits and dominate F1 again, should and would that not be a tried and tested marketing success story?

[synchrocone]

Always wanted to ride the snake. :hotbaby: Strangely enough, always wanted to own an Alfa Romeo as well. The Launch Edition 4C might be in the same price but at least you can fit luggage in the Viper.

A few years ago thought of buying an Alfa 164 that had a catastrophic mechanical failure. Thought about dumping a chunk of money in that but still be able to purchase some Tom Ford sneakers for a casual business day sporting a Salvatore Ferragano briefcase without flinching. Lol, too bad the saleslady didn't even know how to open the bloody thing today ><.

[xpl0sive]

Old fat brits who look like they've never worked out a day in their life


They don't understand the appeal of the Viper at all

Clarkson actually liked the Gen 3 viper...

Jeremy drives the Dodge Viper (series 5, episode 3) - BBC Top Gear (http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/viper-blade)

sorry couldn't find this video on youtube... better quality on BBC anyway

"It's got miles and miles of grip.... and then when you reach the limits of adhesion.... it kills you"

[underscore]

Old fat brits who look like they've never worked out a day in their life


They don't understand the appeal of the Viper at all

To have a beautiful car that ended up with a really tacky third brake light?

[thumper]

bespoke vipers from the factory?

http://youtu.be/MEXpy2a-sVc

[SpeedStars]

Kind of off topic...but does anyone else think the viper key fob looks horrible? Dodge gave all their cars that generic soap slate looking thing and didnt even bother to give the viper its unique key fob...especially considering it looked like this beforehttps://theviperstore.com/images/Viper2Key-FOB76.jpg

[Timpo]

Lol dodge way to screw it all up

this.

If you know how business works, never compete on price.

What this does is that "Let's race to the bottom" competition.
This is why jewelry companies like Tiffany or even Apple computer are very strict on price.

*Edit*

ok seems like it's working for them..
http://www.hellcat.org/threads/200-increase-in-dodge-viper-sales.525/

[underscore]

bespoke vipers from the factory?

The only unique thing there might be the aero, many cars at that level have multiple interior colour, wheel and custom paint options.