[trollguy]

2015 Corvette Z06 does 0-60 in 2.95 seconds, starts at $79K - Road & Track (http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/future-cars/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-official-performance-numbers?src=soc_fcbks)

http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roadandtrack/images/61/03CorvetteZ06-sm.jpg

Internet-forum debates are about to get a lot more real. GM released the first factory performance figures for the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, and the car appears ready to invalidate every import-supercar argument ever made against America's sports car.

You already know that it's blown LT4 makes 650-hp and 650 lb-ft. That potent engine, when paired with the new 8-speed paddle-shifted automatic, delivers a 0–60 time of 2.95 seconds. The quarter mile is vaporized in 10.95 seconds at 127 mph. That's with the available Z07 package, which includes the max-downforce aero kit, Brembo carbon-ceramics, and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 rubber. It also pulls 1.2 g on the skidbad. The previous best for any Vette was 1.13 g.

You prefer three pedals? With the seven-speed stick, the Z06 races to 60 in 3.2 seconds and hits the quarter in 11.2, again at 127 mph. The top speed has not been anounced, but 200+ mph is a foregone conclusion at this point.

i've bolded the important parts of this news release

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[trollguy]

i'm pretty that look is for my avatar.:hotbaby:

[TjAlmeida]

Your username makes me :suspicious:



No, thank you. Don't become like Ferrari/McLaren/Porsche, please, Chevy.

Also, that skidpad is crazy.

Also can be equipped with a 7 speed manual transmission..

[TheStig]

Wow, that's impressive. Love the look as well. Very good price to performance ratio for a new car, although I doubt many will be sold at MSRP initially.

[Gucci Mane]

supercar performance at half the cost. fucking amazing.

this car is just :sweetjesus:

[dared3vil0]

The fact that an Automatic is even offered on the C7 Z06 is :okay:

The C6 Z06 was manual only. IMHO it should of stayed that way... Here's to hoping the eventual ZR1 sticks with the stick.

[trollguy]

Pretty sure the auto offered is legit though- not a your run of the mill pontiac transport auto tranny.

i'm starting to hear some enthusiasts preferring a paddle shift over manual as it lets them focus on their actual driving.. thoughts?

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[hk20000]

GM says it's a bespoke auto that is capable of shifting faster than Porsche's PDK

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[R. Mutt]

At that level of performance versus the class of cars you are competing against I'm glad they added a paddle shift option. I've got to admit it looks pretty bad ass and the styling gets better with every new generation. As for those performance figures and bang/buck - I'm very impressed. Pretty hard to refute them at this point as long as they don't get recalled.

[flagella]

Pretty sure the auto offered is legit though- not a your run of the mill pontiac transport auto tranny.

i'm starting to hear some enthusiasts preferring a paddle shift over manual as it lets them focus on their actual driving.. thoughts?

lmao... focus on their actual driving? like on a fucking street?

Most of these so called enthusiasts barely hit the track, and I have not met any real enthusiasts who say they find paddle shift more fun to drive than rowing gears and heal-toeing on a track.

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[bcrdukes]

lmao... focus on their actual driving? like on a fucking street?

Most of these so called enthusiasts barely hit the track, and I have not met any real enthusiasts who say they find paddle shift more fun to drive than rowing gears and heal-toeing on a track.

You probably know only poor people.

[trollguy]

:lol: fucking bcrdukes

[flagella]

enlighten us with your rich contacts, but please though, no fobs from mainland that can't drive.

:lol

[trollguy]

dude he's a fucking hipster. they love expensive shit (industrial grade espresso machines for home use, combs made from a unicorns' horn, etc). i wouldnt be surprised if he knew someone so rich they had a $20k CF frame fixie.

[trollguy]

anyhow back on topic- and specifically in response to flagella; for track usage. for day to day/hard park/whatever, auto would be preferred imho. i dont need to row gears to get from A to B.

i've been to the track a couple times, and while manual is very involving and a delight, i think i could appreciate a paddle shift.

[bcrdukes]

You must be oldguy, not slowguy.

[freakshow]

Most of these so called enthusiasts barely hit the track, and I have not met any real enthusiasts who say they find paddle shift more fun to drive than rowing gears and heal-toeing on a track.
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I suck at driving, and when I've taken either the M5 or the NSX to the track, I would have been happy to use a paddle shift so that i can focus on driving line, apex, braking, throttle control, etc. instead of also having to make sure that my clutch work and shifting is perfect too..

[trollguy]

It doesn't matter how good the auto is, in my opinion--if you can't heeltoe, the connection between man and machine is lost.

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I suck at driving, and when I've taken either the M5 or the NSX to the track, I would have been happy to use a paddle shift so that i can focus on driving line, apex, braking, throttle control, etc. instead of also having to make sure that my clutch work and shifting is perfect too..

it's funny because some instructors will tell you not to shift for that reason alone..

anyhow.. the paddle option seems to be the only knock on the vette?

[sdubfid]

I don't know how anyone can knock it as it's an option. Don't like it then don't buy it. Who else makes anything even close that you can buy parts for at lordco.

[BoostedBB6]

Welcome to the future people. More and more cars will come with paddle boxes because the people who can afford this cars want them.

Until they have a greater demand for a manual box they will keep filling the demand for paddles.

Also, as someone who has had the opportunity to drive some very high end cars on and off the track, if you want to go faster you need paddles. It has been proven time and time again that having it makes for a faster lap time (in newer boxes anyway).

Look at FIA WEC or other similar races, there is not a single car out there without paddles. Its just the way it is.

[flagella]

anyhow back on topic- and specifically in response to flagella; for track usage. for day to day/hard park/whatever, auto would be preferred imho. i dont need to row gears to get from A to B.

i've been to the track a couple times, and while manual is very involving and a delight, i think i could appreciate a paddle shift.

Don't think. Have you actually tried doing this before?

I went from a fun manual shift sportscar to a bigger and more powerful sedan with paddle shift (it was a compromise I had to make when I started a family), I got bored to death pretty soon after.

The point is, you don't want to be driving a pure sportscar for daily (whether it's manual or paddle shift) because for daily at the end of the day, comfort matter the most.

You want a beater for your daily, and get a pure sports car with stick shift for weekend cruises.

[hud 91gt]

Every year they are doing something great! FUCKING AMAZING.

Who cares if they offer a paddle shift. It's to keep up with the competition. They still offer a manual.

[TheStig]

While manual is undoubtedly fun, having spent a few years in a car with a reasonably good dual clutch box, and now going back to daily driving a manual car.. I have to say.. I kind of miss the dual clutch. It gives perfect, infinitely repeatable shifts every time, and when you're (often) feeling lazy it lets you slam it into auto mode and enjoy the scenery... er... traffic :cry:

[nsx042003]

i'm starting to hear some enthusiasts preferring a paddle shift over manual as it lets them focus on their actual driving.. thoughts?

Those aren't ethusiasts. Nope. They just think they are.

Real enthusiasts, will ALWAYS praise a manual, no matter if it's faster or slower, because it's the shit. It's fun.

[Lomac]

Those aren't ethusiasts. Nope. They just think they are.

Real enthusiasts, will ALWAYS praise a manual, no matter if it's faster or slower, because it's the shit. It's fun.

No. A REAL enthusiast doesn't care if they're rowing their own gears or using a slushbox, so long as they're enjoying themselves. I enjoy a good manual as much as the next person on here, but it's honestly not the be-all, end-all of transmissions.

How many people knocking on paddle shifting have actually driven one setup with a single or dual clutch? Let me tell you, I have and it's not the end of the world. Sure, the system used in the original AM DB9 that I drove was absolutely complete shit. Good on the open highway, but everywhere else it was a disaster. But that seemed to be the exception to the rule. I've also driven VW/Audi's DSG, along with Porsche's PDK, and they're both pretty damn good. Yes, I did initially miss the whole clutch in, throw a gear action, but I soon forgot about it. On the open highway, you're rarely changing gears anyway. Once on a track or a mountain road, it showed it's advantage. You can hit a faster lap time, both your hands are on the wheel at all time, and you don't run the risk of firing off a bad shift.

Only one car in the past ten I've owned has been an automatic (and that's because it was a winter beater SUV), but I don't doubt that at some point in the future, I'll actually end up buying a car with paddle shifting.

[sdubfid]

Those aren't ethusiasts. Nope. They just think they are.

Real enthusiasts, will ALWAYS praise a manual, no matter if it's faster or slower, because it's the shit. It's fun.

Does your nsx have abs and fuel injection?

[nsx042003]

No. A REAL enthusiast doesn't care if they're rowing their own gears or using a slushbox, so long as they're enjoying themselves. I enjoy a good manual as much as the next person on here, but it's honestly not the be-all, end-all of transmissions.

How many people knocking on paddle shifting have actually driven one setup with a single or dual clutch? Let me tell you, I have and it's not the end of the world. Sure, the system used in the original AM DB9 that I drove was absolutely complete shit. Good on the open highway, but everywhere else it was a disaster. But that seemed to be the exception to the rule. I've also driven VW/Audi's DSG, along with Porsche's PDK, and they're both pretty damn good. Yes, I did initially miss the whole clutch in, throw a gear action, but I soon forgot about it. On the open highway, you're rarely changing gears anyway. Once on a track or a mountain road, it showed it's advantage. You can hit a faster lap time, both your hands are on the wheel at all time, and you don't run the risk of firing off a bad shift.

Only one car in the past ten I've owned has been an automatic (and that's because it was a winter beater SUV), but I don't doubt that at some point in the future, I'll actually end up buying a car with paddle shifting.


I might sound like i'm bashing DSG or automated manuals, I don't, I just plain prefer manual over them. But man, do I ever enjoy tracking/autocrossing with my manual cars.

I'm just saying one can get more fun out of driving a car with a stick than automatic, there's a learning curve to everything, it's just the majority of the people dont track their car. All this talk of what's faster...I could care less, it's all about how much fun you can have with a car. I can enjoy steering and rowing the stick while tracking and I just find automatics are boring for that reason.

No. I don't own a NSX but I have tracked manuals and automatics. I drive an ISF so i know the cool stuff excellent automatics can do. Blistering fast upshifts, rev matching and all that, it's cool, but tracking wise....I found it to be less involved. Sticks provided a more fun experience. Hence my strong statement about REAL ethusiast. My ideal scenario would be some automatics for cruising/relaxing drives, and a stick for the fun stuff in between.

[bcrdukes]

Only one car in the past ten I've owned has been an automatic (and that's because it was a winter beater SUV), but I don't doubt that at some point in the future, I'll actually end up buying a car with paddle shifting.

Didn't most of your cars burn to a crisp? :troll:

[kchan]

lmao... focus on their actual driving? like on a fucking street?

Most of these so called enthusiasts barely hit the track, and I have not met any real enthusiasts who say they find paddle shift more fun to drive than rowing gears and heal-toeing on a track.

i'd consider myself an enthusiast and use my car for whats it is intended for
and yea i would dare to say paddle shift would be more fun - id be able to tackle the track a lot harder - hence why at the end of the day people in the lotus community (which i would also assume are enthusiasts) change over to dogbox transmission

Those aren't ethusiasts. Nope. They just think they are.

Real enthusiasts, will ALWAYS praise a manual, no matter if it's faster or slower, because it's the shit. It's fun.

true enthusiast wouldn't care too much if manual or auto - grass is greener on the other side

if i had manual id want the dual clutch - and if i had the dual clutch id want the manual

[Lomac]

Didn't most of your cars burn to a crisp? :troll:

Technically only three. And just one actually burnt to a crisp.

:fuckyea:

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[trollguy]

YES ! MY THREAD REACHED TWO PAGES!

I CAN REST HAPPY NOW

phew

[trollguy]

Back on topic...has anyone used the Pilot Sport 2 tires? How do they compare to the regular Vette's tires?

sorry- were you referring to the 2015 z06 tires? if so, they're actually the PSC2. The C for cup which makes them an r-comp tire. the PS2 on the other hand is a pure street tire! :)

and i havent been fortunate enough to even try a set of regular PSCs. too poor for michelin so i buy Federal tires. :lol:

[bcrdukes]

Back on topic...has anyone used the Pilot Sport 2 tires? How do they compare to the regular Vette's tires?

You aren't cool and accepted here on Revscene if you don't run the Michelin PSS. Clearly another flaw with the new Corvette.

[BBMme]

I can't wait for reviews

[white rocket]

YES ! MY THREAD REACHED TWO PAGES!

haha, I chuckled. LOL at the peeps getting rustled about paddle vs. manual. When speaking in terms of on-track usage it's really the driving that gets the focus so if you eliminate the manual shifting aspect then you can concentrate more on the driving lines. I have a manual vehicle and enjoy it on-track but I can also relate to the desire for paddle shift. With the milli-second shifting and throttle blip down shift it's hard to compete. Even straight up racers will have tons of respect for the paddle shift. To say that a true enthusiast will always favor a manual gearbox just isn't true.

[BrRsn]

so is it faster than the GTR yet?