[kingmarianor]

Considering an RB25/26 swap in a 280z, but I keep getting smacked in the face with the idea of being sack religious and stuff it with a 2J..

Thoughts?

[multicartual]

LS

[sdubfid]

I know a couple of local rb26 in 240z and if they did it again they would go chevy LS or possibly Nissan VK. But if they put an LS or VK and asked again maybe they would say they wish they went RB/JAYZ. How big is your budget?

[meme405]

LS

Surprised you didn't say 302T5...

Fuck sack religious and shit. There was a 2JZ swapped 350z at NissanFest this past year. It was the coolest swap there I think...

[ej-sixx]

"2jz no shit"

[BoostedBB6]

20B

[originalhypa]

Sack Religious?

what. the. fuck.

Put some vtec in that shit. No one will know the difference.....

[PandaDog]

*sacrilegious

Just put in any engine you want, it's not anyone else's car

Put in anything that gives you the most horsepower you want :fullofwin:

[fliptuner]

Pray to my balls. Join the teabag mafia.

:fullofwin:

[multicartual]

I kind of want to sell my E36 BMW so I can get a cheaper platform, say, a 2.3 fox body, and then convert it to turbo and run MegaSquirt on it, learn how to tune it myself.

What about that 280Z racing engine on Craigslist advertised for $4,900?

[kingmarianor]

I know a couple of local rb26 in 240z and if they did it again they would go chevy LS or possibly Nissan VK. But if they put an LS or VK and asked again maybe they would say they wish they went RB/JAYZ. How big is your budget?

Never really considered a VK swap, but I was thinking doing an LT1 a while back. I'm trying to stay reasonable within 3grand?

[kingmarianor]

*sacrilegious

Just put in any engine you want, it's not anyone else's car

Put in anything that gives you the most horsepower you want :fullofwin:

So that's how it's spelled :$

I was around people telling me things like swapping a 2jz in a 240z is sacrilegious. :heckno:

[multicartual]

Never really considered a VK swap, but I was thinking doing an LT1 a while back. I'm trying to stay reasonable within 3grand?


What I've learned with engine swaps is that the little things are what are costly, leaky headers, getting the accessory fittings just right, positioning of the radiator, fans, the wiring. Takes a lot to get everything "factory" on the car and some things may never, ever be "factory". Maybe better, if you can afford it!


What you think will cost 3k will end up costing 6k!

[kingmarianor]

I kind of want to sell my E36 BMW so I can get a cheaper platform, say, a 2.3 fox body, and then convert it to turbo and run MegaSquirt on it, learn how to tune it myself.

What about that 280Z racing engine on Craigslist advertised for $4,900?


Not a huge fan of the foxbody, but those things are fast.

I'm not seeing that on craigslist, and that's a bit out of my budget :okay:

[dared3vil0]

+1 for LS swap.

Or SBF...

[multicartual]

Small block Ford entire drivetrain, ecu, every last bit can be had for welllllll under $2,000

[meme405]

What you think will cost 3k will end up costing 6k!

This is true for any car modification beyond straight bolt on shit.

The other thing you can be positive of, is it will end up taking double or triple the time you thought it would. lol.

Ask me how I know...

[ancient_510]

You've started threads "Debate between Datsun 280z and silvia" and "Datsun G-nose conversion."

Now we've got a thread on an engine swap.

I question your dedication to your 280z.

I would hate to see a half complete project with a boatload of parts appear on craigslist because of poor planning and under-dedication in the execution. Every time you see "510" replace it with "280z" (http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13589)

Keep the L28.

[vitaminG]

Never really considered a VK swap, but I was thinking doing an LT1 a while back. I'm trying to stay reasonable within 3grand?

are you doing this yourself? if not i doubt 3k will get you a running 2jz gte, and maybe a running RB25. so that might make your decision a bit easier

[The_AK]

Have you driven any cars with these engines? I'd say take each for a drive and see which of the engines you like more then go from there

[SkunkWorks]

I had a stroked 3.1L L28 with triple Mikunis and I'd still prefer it over any of your choices.

Seeing your other threads, it seems like you don't even have a car yet, let alone driven the L28.

[typ.]

It depends if you want boost or if you want N/A too. Do you like the boost kicking in or just pure power throughout?

Unfortunately, 3K will not get you an LS swap into a Z. It will definitely cost more than putting it into say, a 240 (I know because mine is LS swapped). There's a lot more custom work you need to do.. and also the drivetrain and suspension to be able to support the power is going to be something to think about too. Not saying a 2J is going to be any easier (or cheaper for that matter), but just from an LS perspective.. it's going to cost triple your 3k. You can probably get an LS motor for 3k if you're lucky but that doesn't even include the swap parts, tranny, cooling, and other things to get it running.

My suggestion for 3k is either do a older V8 swap like the LT1 or just some small chevy block for ~$500. Then add the work ontop to get it running.. Or if you want boost, then even an SR20/RB20 would be a little more than 3k to get it running. This is if you do all the work yourself.

[hud 91gt]

Just buy this one. It will probably be cheaper.

2JZ OVERKILL Z FOR SALE?! 35K obo - Cars for Sale - HybridZ (http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/119982-2jz-overkill-z-for-sale-35k-obo/#entry1123761)

[hk20000]

LOLz'd @ Sack Religious.

be unique, rotary engine that ish.

[E-SPEC]

J32

[originalhypa]

I was around people telling me things like swapping a 2jz in a 240z is sacrilegious. :heckno:

The minute this fucker put a 2JZ into a 67' Camaro, all semblance of sacriledge or respect went out the window.

Culture Shock Camaro SS 2JZ 1,000HP DYNO + Quick Drive Fastest 6 Cylinder 1967-1969 Camaro!! - YouTube

Imho, do what fits your needs. If you want a high revving high power engine, then either will fit the bill. But remember what kind of supplementary drivetrain and suspension parts you'll need. You're going to be spending a ton of money on all the other bits so the mAdD PoWaz doesn't twist your ancient chassis putting you into the closest ditch the first time you stomp it.

convert it to turbo and run MegaSquirt on it

I want to convert you into my turb-ho and megasquirt on your face.

:hotbaby:


What I've learned with engine swaps is that the little things are what are costly, leaky headers, getting the accessory fittings just right, positioning of the radiator, fans, the wiring.

agreed.
I've spent a few weekends trying to figure out the best way to reroute the throttle cable in what should have been an easy swap. It truly is the little things that you don't think about that set you back.


be unique, rotary engine that ish.

I'm down with this suggestion.

Here's a 20b in a 240z for some inspiration.
http://www.viczcar.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/thickbox_large/memberride/82/20b-240z5.jpg

[kingmarianor]

I had a stroked 3.1L L28 with triple Mikunis and I'd still prefer it over any of your choices.

Seeing your other threads, it seems like you don't even have a car yet, let alone driven the L28.

My first car was a Acura RSX, (which I've sold through this forum recently), but I've seen several Datsuns come and go through my relatives already. My family has a long history working with Z cars and left a couple for me to take over.

Finally decided to sell my RSX and take up a 280z project like my dad wanted (y)

[kingmarianor]

Have you driven any cars with these engines? I'd say take each for a drive and see which of the engines you like more then go from there

Driven an R32 and loved it. Never driven a supra, nor am I blessed enough to be close to anyone that has one I can drive LOL

[kingmarianor]

LOLz'd @ Sack Religious.

be unique, rotary engine that ish.

:notbad:

[kingmarianor]

The minute this fucker put a 2JZ into a 67' Camaro, all semblance of sacriledge or respect went out the window.

Culture Shock Camaro SS 2JZ 1,000HP DYNO + Quick Drive Fastest 6 Cylinder 1967-1969 Camaro!! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZqtJTlXON8)



This is fucking sexy...

[originalhypa]

This is fucking sexy...

I'll admit, I tripped balls when I saw it for the first time. The work the guy put into it really garners a lot of respect. Although the rednecks really don't get it.

The truth is, you're not going to keep everyone happy all the time. While you love an RB or 2JZ, another guy thinks a built NA motor is best. I prefer the thought of a KA or SR swap. The LSx folks make a great argument for their aluminum mill. And there's always one of those rotary queers in every crowd talking about apex seals and high revs..... :lol

The bottom line is, just do it.
:)

[underscore]

First off, what do you want from the car, big power, or just a bit of an upgrade? If you're adding power you're gonna wanna upgrade the brakes and suspension as well, then you have to think about the strength of the chassis and weight balance.

As far as the swap itself, to me it's only "sacrilegious" if the motor you're replacing is already a high performance capable motor (ie replacing an RB26 with a 2JZ) since you're adding a bunch of extra work and headache for little to no gain.

[multicartual]

Start with something simple, maybe even start with an N/A 2JZ, get everything running right FIRST.

Then add a standalone... learn to tune your N/A motor and learn to drive the car, balance the chassis.

Then, after maybe a year of that, THEN step up your game and perhaps add a power adder.

Shit in my E36 chassis even under stock 5.0 power I'm finding that it overpowered the stock rear diff. Also, the 3.91 gears and 225 rear tires are basically a burnout machine in 1st gear. I need to run drag radials on the rear to get any sort of 1st gear traction*... on a stock 184 rwhp engine!

Engine swaps are a huge project!



*Did research last night, I need some ksport drag coilovers... $1,2xx USD!