N-Motion Break-in [Archive] - REVscene Automotive Forum

meme405

11-09-2014, 11:10 AM

Just as an FYI guys, a Revscene sponsor was the target of a B&E last night. N-Motion is a long time sponsor of RS, and a great group of people work there.

Video of the event can be seen here:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152840186174450&set=vb.50586824449&type=2&theater

If anyone knows something, or sees blackvues, or stereo equipment popping up for sale cheap. Contact N-Motion at 604-419-8808. Or the Police.

They are offering a $10,000. Reward for catching these assholes.

Lets find these guys and have the RS beat down crew assemble on them.

Tr1ll

11-09-2014, 11:21 AM

SoundsGood has had recent break in problems as well. I wonder if it's the same crew that's involved in the thefts.

Recon604

11-09-2014, 11:49 AM

N-motion no longer sponsors RS. Anyways looks like a MB ML from the video

nsx042003

11-09-2014, 11:56 AM

^caravan

v_tec

11-09-2014, 01:13 PM

What were the flashing light outside? Were there any sirens/alarm?

E-SPEC

11-09-2014, 01:33 PM

Lets find these guys and have the RS beat down crew assemble on them.

This part is funny. The break in however is not. May as well have Hansel and Gretal beat them up.:yuno:

Sunfighter

11-09-2014, 01:43 PM

I feel really bad for the shop.

That said - this time of break & enter is exceedingly common an auto parts shops, etc., are frequently targeted because the product is highly desirable on the open market. Understand as well that much of this product would likely have been pre-sold by the thieves prior to the break-in occurring. Sitting on the stolen product is a tremendous liability.

I would encourage the shop to invest in lockable bollards for the space immediately outside the bay doors. The cost isn't low but the potential savings are massive. Core into the concrete, drop in the sleeve, and then the bollards sits (locked) in that when the bay isn't in use. It would prevent this type of B&E. It's the same reason you see bollards at the entrances to big box stores and shopping malls.

sexyaccord

11-09-2014, 01:53 PM

first guy is wearing what looks like an iron man mask
http://www.shepher.com/sitemedia/product/mediumimages/KEN36694.JPG

alex.w *//

11-09-2014, 10:10 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1UU_G8_u_AI/UcZITPr9iII/AAAAAAAAIss/f92ZxzvmNTM/s1600/Protective+Bollard.jpg

Fafine

11-09-2014, 10:17 PM

^ if you watched the surveillance video, they rammed the bay door.
Steel columns won't help.

twitchyzero

11-09-2014, 10:20 PM

Lets find these guys and have the RS beat down crew assemble on them.

a/s/l? :hotbaby:

ilvtofu

11-09-2014, 11:06 PM

^ if you watched the surveillance video, they rammed the bay door.
Steel columns won't help.

You'd install them outside the bay door, they are removable/lockable. That being said wouldn't thieves just cut the locks?

TOS'd

11-10-2014, 01:11 AM

You can get ones that retract into the ground. But anyways, its not really up to the shop to install it. They are merely the tenant of the office/warehouse space.

StylinRed

11-10-2014, 01:42 AM

surprised the security camera is so crappy :/ are the goods locked up in the shop or just left open in the back? not that it matters now I guess but for the future they may want to think about better cameras (more than 1 at that), locking up their products in a cage, and as mentioned the removable bollards

im also surprised these guys were using wheeled trash cans seems like they're experienced

ilovebacon

11-10-2014, 02:03 AM

And this all happened when cops station is a few blocks away..

GLOW

11-10-2014, 12:21 PM

Soundy

11-10-2014, 12:35 PM

i'd suggest exterior CCTV camera(s) too.

Might provide a better ID of the vehicle in this case, but that's about it. I agree with nsx, the shape of the tail lights suggests Caravan/Voyager to me. Not that that helps much without a plate.

Cameras look like a cheap Costco setup - excessive IR and too-narrow FOV.

gars

11-10-2014, 12:46 PM

Most people who break-in to shops like this will do so with a stolen vehicle anyway. So it won't do much good even if you have the plate.

xpl0sive

11-10-2014, 12:49 PM

^^ beat me to it

Soundy

11-10-2014, 01:00 PM

Most people who break-in to shops like this will do so with a stolen vehicle anyway. So it won't do much good even if you have the plate.

True enough, although if it at least leads to the vehicle's home, that might give the police another area to look for the perps... someone around there may have useful video of it being stolen, for example. Long shot of course, but more information is always better...

v_tec

11-10-2014, 02:14 PM

i'd suggest exterior CCTV camera(s) too.

Shitty quality and bad angle. But it was on their facebook page:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10665803_10152840401944450_5240904855682184291_n.j pg?oh=cb81586fc0edd3550b6bc844c0c58c72&oe=54DE5EA0&__gda__=1428188692_6f8aa6be475637384ae249752a28d9b e

Soundy

11-10-2014, 02:23 PM

Definitely an ML then :troll:

E-SPEC

11-10-2014, 06:19 PM

Looks like it.

BBMme

11-10-2014, 06:58 PM

Horrible news, I hope they catch them

tiger_handheld

11-10-2014, 07:23 PM

not to hate on N-Motion, I've been a customer of them. But for a shop that sells car security systems with high end dash cams their in house security cam is horrible! I hope they upgrade it to quality of the products they sell. If it was a color HD, I'm sure a plate would've been possible.

I hope all the car shops share the info to bring these dbags to justice!

AzNightmare

11-10-2014, 10:33 PM

It's the same reason you see bollards at the entrances to big box stores and shopping malls.

Mindblasted... I know what bollards are, but after reading this, I quickly googled a bunch of big box store images, and yep, every one has bollards surrounding the entrance. And I had never been observant to notice them. lol

not to hate on N-Motion, I've been a customer of them. But for a shop that sells car security systems with high end dash cams their in house security cam is horrible!

It's not just N-Motion, but it's pretty much every security footage I have seen released...
Always shit quality. What's up with that? It's almost like they have security camera just to either scare people,
or it's just policy/procedure to have one.

Sorry, just peeved. How are thieves going to get caught when security cameras in general are so shitty?? :yuno:

jing

11-10-2014, 11:40 PM

Probably because HD surveillance cameras weren't affordable until recently

Gululu

11-11-2014, 09:05 AM

did the thieves break into kirmac collision? or they specifically targeted n-motion only?

E-SPEC

11-11-2014, 09:43 AM

Those thieves really were N-motion. Sorry i had to.

BoostedBB6

11-11-2014, 10:23 AM

With the way the shop is set up it was only a matter of time. People knew what they sold, it was radially accessible and getting in was easy due to aluminum framed glass bay door.
I spent huge amounts of time securing a commercial property I used to work for. Bay door was locked with pad locks and bars to prevent entry. Also parked a large vehicle in front of the bay door at night so there was no room to get in.
Bars on all windows, and a ton of cameras on the exterior and interior with cell paging security system on multiple back ups with motion and pressure sensors.

Hope they have insurance and invest in a better security setup as I would not be surprised if theses guys came back in 6 months to try this again if nothing changes.

Mr.Money

11-12-2014, 01:06 AM

just heard looking at the facebook posts that this was the forth time a break-in has happened :fulloffuck: Fuck me some people are too busy to invest in their security.

thumper

11-13-2014, 01:08 PM

wouldn't you need casino-grade security cameras to get any sort of quality? i remember looking up at the starlight and seeing more cameras than light fixtures :o:

punkwax

11-13-2014, 01:15 PM

It's not the resolution of the cameras that make a difference in casinos, it's the frame rate in which they record on. You need expensive equipment to record a lot of HD cameras each at the highest frame rate possible. Of course resolution matters as well, but before everyone started going IP, casinos had standard 540TVL analog cameras all over the place.

Live viewing on many surveillance systems looks good. People slap in the cheap stuff thinking its good, then something happens and they go back on hard drive and realize the video isn't near the quality they thought they had.

You get what you pay for in life...

Hakkaboy

11-13-2014, 04:00 PM

Speaking of casino cameras, check this out:

Vancouver police used security cameras in a casino to zoom in on a suspect's cellphone and read his text messages, and later arrested him for a series of firearms charges after finding a cache of guns in two apartments....

http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Judge+raps+police+using+casino+cameras+read+suspec t+texts/10369833/story.html

E-SPEC

11-13-2014, 04:28 PM

Speaking of casino cameras, check this out:

Judge raps police for using casino cameras to read suspect's texts (http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Judge+raps+police+using+casino+cameras+read+suspec t+texts/10369833/story.html)

That wouldn't be too hard considering he probably had a camera DIRECTLY above him pointing down while he sat at a black jack table, pretty crazy though.

underscore

11-13-2014, 05:46 PM

I gotta ask, why is the interior camera not one of the dash cams they sell? The quality would've been infinitely better and had sound.

You'd install them outside the bay door, they are removable/lockable. That being said wouldn't thieves just cut the locks?

Some lockable things have big metal plates that cover where the lock goes, so you can't just use bolt cutters to pop the lock, you either have to do a bunch of drilling or a bunch of cutting, all which makes noise and takes time.

Soundy

11-15-2014, 03:14 PM

I gotta ask, why is the interior camera not one of the dash cams they sell? The quality would've been infinitely better and had sound.
Dashcams aren't surveillance cams. They only record for short periods and then overwrite - you probably wouldn't get a whole night on there, let alone multiple days, weeks or months.

They also don't record to a central location - outfitting a shop with a dozen or so dash cams might seem like a good idea until you want to review video from more than three or four of them.

Most surveillance systems also allow remote access for live viewing and playback... dashcams, not so much.

StylinRed

11-15-2014, 04:20 PM

they need one of those 4K airport/casino cameras only $999 (for the camera not all the other peripherals)

Axis Communications P1428-E Network Camera 0637-001 B&H Photo (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1064540&gclid=CLCOm_n5_cECFcRafgodpVsAZg&Q=&is=REG&A=details)

just heard looking at the facebook posts that this was the forth time a break-in has happened :fulloffuck: Fuck me some people are too busy to invest in their security.

Or you know what E-SPEC said

Those thieves really were N-motion. Sorry i had to.

4th time (wonder if it's in the same manner? :crazy2:) and they didn't bother on some easy fixes as mentioned :suspicious:

underscore

11-15-2014, 04:41 PM

Dashcams aren't surveillance cams. They only record for short periods and then overwrite - you probably wouldn't get a whole night on there, let alone multiple days, weeks or months.

They also don't record to a central location - outfitting a shop with a dozen or so dash cams might seem like a good idea until you want to review video from more than three or four of them.

Most surveillance systems also allow remote access for live viewing and playback... dashcams, not so much.

All very true, but considering they sell the things already it'd be worth it to toss a couple up in addition to their current stuff if they don't want to upgrade that garbage camera they currently have. With a big enough card you should be able to at least get a nights worth of footage, good enough for break ins. It's obviously not ideal, but it's better than their current potato cam that you can barely get a vehicle model from, let alone a plate number or face.

Soundy

11-15-2014, 05:34 PM

they need one of those 4K airport/casino cameras only $999 (for the camera not all the other peripherals)

Pffft, 8MP is so 2011.

29 MP JPEG2000 HD Pro Camera | Avigilon - The Best Evidence (http://avigilon.com/products/video-surveillance/cameras/hd-pro-cameras/hd-pro/29-mp-jpeg2000-hd-pro-camera/)

All very true, but considering they sell the things already it'd be worth it to toss a couple up in addition to their current stuff if they don't want to upgrade that garbage camera they currently have. With a big enough card you should be able to at least get a nights worth of footage, good enough for break ins. It's obviously not ideal, but it's better than their current potato cam that you can barely get a vehicle model from, let alone a plate number or face.
Of course, people always think of these things AFTER something happens.

I don't know if you'd get substantially better image in the dark anyway... higher resolution, but not necessarily better picture.