[vitaminG]

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The 2016 Cadillac ATS-V teasers just began rolling out today, and already someone has spoiled the surprise. Photos of the upcoming performance coupe recently leaked all over the web. Though we've seen the car uncovered before in spy shots, now we get to see it in nice, even studio lighting.


We last saw the 2016 Cadillac ATS-V Coupe posing for a photo shoot outdoors, and the car in these photos wears the same wide front valance opening, front grille with air slit, and power-bulge hood with carbon fiber air extractors. We also see the same dark wheels, split five-spoke wheels, quad-tip exhaust, and rear ducktail spoiler. The tires appear to be Michelin Pilot Super Sports, which will be welcome considering other outlets are reporting the ATS-V will get the Cadillac CTS Vsport's twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-6 tuned to 450 hp.
The photos look promising, and if reports of the ATS-V's output are true, the BMW M4 could have something to sweat over. We'll get more details and photos of the 2016 Cadillac ATS-V when it debuts next week at the L.A. auto show. Until then, enjoy these photos


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pretty much matches M4 specs, probably similar price. Interesting to see head to head comparisons

[Edison_Chen]

This looks pretty hot. I wonder if the fully loaded price is going to be expensive..

[bicboi]

If anyone needs more info or is looking to place an order, don't hesitate to PM me.

[Akinari]

Shame it won't have an LT1 under the hood. I know the benefits of FI 6 or 4-cyl engines nowadays outweigh the benefits of larger displacement NA engines, but these cars won't ever have that feel of an NA V8 or produce the same sound.

It's the same reason I'd rather take an RC F over any of these new boosted V6 engined two door performance coupes.

[mb_]

6 speed manual? :megusta:

[StylinRed]

mm looks pretty good would love to see a head2head between the m4, ats-v, rcf, c amg

[asian_XL]

you can't replace a M3/M4 with a Cadillac.

[flagella]

Similar specs and price? Sorry but why the hell would I choose a Cadillac over M4?

[supafamous]

Similar specs and price? Sorry but why the hell would I choose a Cadillac over M4?

Most reviews have said the ATS is a better handler than the 3 series so I'll take a guess that the ATS-V will be a better handler than the M3/M4.

[multicartual]

99.9% of people who will drive this or the M4 will drive them like grannies

[Gucci Mane]

Similar specs and price? Sorry but why the hell would I choose a Cadillac over M4?

because of other bmw owners.

[donjalapeno]

interior looks so fucken cheap....and looks like they put in a speedometer from a 90s silverado.

[meme405]

interior looks so fucken cheap....and looks like they put in a speedometer from a 90s silverado.

Don't be dumb. That looks like the speedo out of a 2015 Silverado...lol

[BoostedBB6]

If you would consider this over an M4 at the same price point you are:

a) Old as dirt
b) Have no grasp on what kind of engineering goes into an M car
c) All of the above

When your not sure, go with c)!

[heleu]

It will be interesting to see what they price the ATS-V at.

Of course, ATS-V vs M4 is no contest (M4 wins), but I wouldn't be surprised if they price it very close to the 335 or S4. It's hard to ignore that value proposition.

It's similar to what Caddy did for the CTS-V vs M5.

[dared3vil0]

If this was substantially cheaper, sure. At a similar price point? Not a chance in hell.

[GS8]

GM always undercuts the European competition in pricing.

The ATS was intended to target the 3 series and did a pretty damn good job with it. That said, Caddy and BMW have 2 different audiences altogether. Neither group would cross shop.

The ATS-V could cost half the price of the M4 and the M4 would still probably sell more units.

The average V buyer cares more for 0-60 & 1/4 mile times than the complete package.

[Manic!]

If you buy a BMW without testing both you are a poser.

[StylinRed]

the BMW M = automatically better mentality really has to get snuffed out like :seriously:

i dislike domestics and caddy's but i'm still willing to see how the testing reviews pan out

[bicboi]

Will definitely be 10-20k (if not more) less than an m4. While I agree the m4 is pretty hard to compete with, I wouldn't knock the ATS-V until you have driven both.

[westopher]

the BMW M = automatically better mentality really has to get snuffed out like :seriously:

i dislike domestics and caddy's but i'm still willing to see how the testing reviews pan out
Will you ever get a realistic review though? Every mag will fanboi out just like all of us do. Its pretty "in" right now to pick the american car over the european car just because the Z28 on race tires put down similar times around 1 track as a 911 turbo on street tires (yes I know the Z28 is incredible, but the test I'm talking about everyone remembers and they really stretched the truth to get people hyped.) On the other hand, M car fanbois (lots of reviewers and mags) "know" that nothing can ever beat an M car ever, for anything, at anything, and if they can, they are too "boring, numb and riddled with driver aids." We will just be reading a bunch of opinion pieces. My opinion piece involves the caddy looking like a 2 door version of a modded aztek
http://hdwallpappers.com/images/wallpapers/pontiac-aztek-rally_wallpaper.jpg
I cant imagine this:
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/86947810+w807+h454+q80+re0+cr1+ar0/2016-cadillac-ats-v-coupe-front-three-quarters.jpg

compared to this, on aesthetics alone.
http://www.bimmerpost.com/storyimages/4c59d569-7f33-3553.jpg

[vitaminG]

^ that was actually pretty badass aztec showcar with an LS1 and six speed

cadillac has shown steady improvement. they dont make excuses anymore the ATS is same price as 3 series, most mags say it has best handling of entry luxury cars. I expect ats-v will be similar price to M4 and give it a good run.

biggest advantage for me is cadillac will probably depreciate into my price range much sooner

[Gucci Mane]

Will you ever get a realistic review though? Every mag will fanboi out just like all of us do. Its pretty "in" right now to pick the american car over the european car just because the Z28 on race tires put down similar times around 1 track as a 911 turbo on street tires (yes I know the Z28 is incredible, but the test I'm talking about everyone remembers and they really stretched the truth to get people hyped.) On the other hand, M car fanbois (lots of reviewers and mags) "know" that nothing can ever beat an M car ever, for anything, at anything, and if they can, they are too "boring, numb and riddled with driver aids." We will just be reading a bunch of opinion pieces. My opinion piece involves the caddy looking like a 2 door version of a modded aztek
http://hdwallpappers.com/images/wallpapers/pontiac-aztek-rally_wallpaper.jpg


Actually the 911 they tested didn't have street tires. Porsche pulled a quick one on motortrend and threw track tires on to the car before it was handed over to them.

As for the caddy looking like a modded Aztek, I want some of whatever the hell you're smoking..

[richardmozis]

interior looks so fucken cheap....and looks like they put in a speedometer from a 90s silverado.

What you talking about? That's a Cadillac. :badpokerface:
Scarface - cadillac scene - YouTube

[westopher]

Actually the 911 they tested didn't have street tires. Porsche pulled a quick one on motortrend and threw track tires on to the car before it was handed over to them.

As for the caddy looking like a modded Aztek, I want some of whatever the hell you're smoking..
hah thats funny about the porsche if its true. Its like one big circle of lies in that test. As for the caddy to aztek, its a stretch, but they clearly are from the same design idea of take a chisel to a brick and throw some wheels on it.

[TouringTeg]

That is by far the best looking Aztek I have ever seen. :cool:

Prefer the look of the M4 vs ATS-V

[BoostedBB6]

I have actually really liked the fact that Caddy has brought out some of these newer cars. Always like there angular designs with these cars. Don't think I would ever own one, but can appreciate them for what they are.

[sekin67835]

lol @ u guys who are saying the ats will never be like the m4. Stop being marco991

[multicartual]

Cars are just a giant wank-fest of who can spend the most to cruise at the speed limit while pointing at stats of their car on a closed track on tires they don't have with driving skills they'll never attain

[multicartual]

I drove the balls off my 135i and I have to say the e-diff was absolute shit

[Gucci Mane]

hah thats funny about the porsche if its true. Its like one big circle of lies in that test. As for the caddy to aztek, its a stretch, but they clearly are from the same design idea of take a chisel to a brick and throw some wheels on it.

Oh it's true. Johnny Lieberman talks about it on a TST podcast. He said that Porsche pulled a quick one and equipped the car with Dunlop sport max race tires(tires found on the gt3) and said that they're a "dealer option". He called around after to a few dealerships in LA to confirm if it was true and the dealerships had no idea what he was talking about.

[donjalapeno]

Don't be dumb. That looks like the speedo out of a 2015 Silverado...lol

I'm talking about the actual dials not the little lcd screen. They did the same thing with the 2015 impala and newer caddys too. The caddy colour is just red.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/03/31-2014-chevrolet-impala-fd.jpg

[kchan]

Oh it's true. Johnny Lieberman talks about it on a TST podcast. He said that Porsche pulled a quick one and equipped the car with Dunlop sport max race tires(tires found on the gt3) and said that they're a "dealer option". He called around after to a few dealerships in LA to confirm if it was true and the dealerships had no idea what he was talking about.

:suspicious: how is that considered a race tire

but pretty funny how porsche pulled a quick one with a r-comp tire

kinda similar to how porsche got their own drivers to drive the gt-r around the nurburgring to see if nissan faked the lap time

[StylinRed]

these?

summer road tire..
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/images/tyres/dunlop_sp_sport_maxx.jpg
The Dunlop SP Sport Maxx is a Max Performance Summer tyre designed to be fitted to Passenger Cars.

[Gucci Mane]

these?

summer road tire..
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/images/tyres/dunlop_sp_sport_maxx.jpg

no, this one. The Dunlop Sport Maxx RACE. this is the tire that comes on the GT3.

http://www.dunloptires.com/assets/dunlop/common/images/tire/mediaGallery/SportMaxxRace_300p4c.jpg

[StylinRed]

:lol ahh that explains it, i was along with kchan going :confused:

still isn't really a race tire but okay

[Kalize]

would still buy the M

[ilvtofu]

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/bmw-m4-coupe-interior-design-detailed-videophoto-gallery-73128-7.jpg
Am I the only one who prefers the interior of the Caddy to the Bimmer? That being said the M4 will have a better back seat if that matters.
Caddy has sent the bar high in terms of performance with the regular ATS but the regular car is too expensive and too cramped. The CTS V-Sport is also impressing reviewers but then again the 5 series and E class are also pigs.
M3/M4 however is in a whole other league when compared to the regular 3/4 and I'm not sure how the ATS-V will fair, my guess is the M4 will review marginally better but with a significant price gap (especially when you spec-it out to press car specs), but I will wait for actual reviews to form an opinion.

[Gucci Mane]

:lol ahh that explains it, i was along with kchan going :confused:

still isn't really a race tire but okay

how is an r-compound track tire not a "race tire" ? are you getting track tires confused with drag radials?

[brrrz]

http://www.automobilesreview.com/uploads/2012/08/Canepa-Cadillac-CTS-V-Wagon-Body-Kit-03.jpg

[kchan]

how is an r-compound track tire not a "race tire" ? are you getting track tires confused with drag radials?


r-compound is definitely not a race tire

and no not being confused with drag radials

race tire imo would be non-dot approved / are just slicks :toot:

[StylinRed]

how is an r-compound track tire not a "race tire" ? are you getting track tires confused with drag radials?

was just goig to post this

http://www.formula1.com/wi/gi/225x/pi-L/manual/pirelli_p_zero_soft_yellow_02a.jpg

but yeah kchan said it first :smug:

[donjalapeno]

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/bmw-m4-coupe-interior-design-detailed-videophoto-gallery-73128-7.jpg
Am I the only one who prefers the interior of the Caddy to the Bimmer? That being said the M4 will have a better back seat if that matters.
Caddy has sent the bar high in terms of performance with the regular ATS but the regular car is too expensive and too cramped.

yah.