[dlo]

wow, surprised theres no post about this... was following this story in the early a.ms and now theres a report of 2 fatalities after armed swats stormed the place

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/12/hostages-taken-sydney-cafe-islamic-flag-seen-window/

[CRS]

You could have at least posted a good journalistic source that is not vancitybuzz.

BBC News - Australia commandos end Sydney cafe siege (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-30485355)

[6o4__boi]

i hoped they double tapped on that asshole

heard about it yesterday but it was still developing.
not much confirmed reports today either all speculation and unconfirmed accounts.

[boostfever]

lol vancitybuzz. comments are hilarious

[6o4__boi]

^ lol jimmies were clearly rustled in the comment section

[murd0c]

i hoped they double tapped on that asshole

heard about it yesterday but it was still developing.
not much confirmed reports today either all speculation and unconfirmed accounts.

Screw the double tap.. You want a loser like that to survive and go to jail not going out like a bitch

[Godzira]

Is this still going on? Or did they get everyone out and arrest him? Why did he do it in the first place?

[Traum]

Screw the double tap.. You want a loser like that to survive and go to jail not going out like a bitch
Nobody gives a shxt about whether a loser like that survives. But it is kind of important to find out whether he is acting alone, or whether he was operating in company with others (esp if there were any direct/indirect links to ISIS), and having the guy alive kind of makes that a touch easier.

Is this still going on? Or did they get everyone out and arrest him? Why did he do it in the first place?
The incident has already ended, with a least 2 dead (one of which is rumoured to be the perpetrator) and several wounded.

News 1130 also has quite a detailed report on the incident. Kind of unconventional as they typically only focus on shorter, quicker updates:

Gunman among three dead after hostage situation in Sydney | News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2014/12/15/at-least-two-reported-dead-after-hostage-situation-in-sydney/)

[TOS'd]

Is this still going on? Or did they get everyone out and arrest him? Why did he do it in the first place?

You should be a reporter. :toot:

[Cwift]

Sydney cafe siege ends: police confirm three dead, including gunman ? live | Australia news | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2014/dec/15/sydney-cafe-siege-hostage-man-haron-monis-live-coverage)

Statements confirm that 3 people are dead, two hostages, and the gunman.

[Godzira]

Nobody gives a shxt about whether a loser like that survives. But it is kind of important to find out whether he is acting alone, or whether he was operating in company with others (esp if there were any direct/indirect links to ISIS), and having the guy alive kind of makes that a touch easier.


The incident has already ended, with a least 2 dead (one of which is rumoured to be the perpetrator) and several wounded.

News 1130 also has quite a detailed report on the incident. Kind of unconventional as they typically only focus on shorter, quicker updates:

Gunman among three dead after hostage situation in Sydney | News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2014/12/15/at-least-two-reported-dead-after-hostage-situation-in-sydney/)

Thanks :)

[StylinRed]

considering they had snipers surrounding the place, im surprised they didn't shoot him when he was spotted by the window (if they were planning on taking him down anyhow)

surprised they stormed the place considering his claims of having a bomb and having set several bombs around the city

wonder what the negotiations were like, i only heard that he wanted to speak to Tony Abbot and requested an ISIS flag -_- seriously

heard that the muslim community denounced him and provided his identity to police when he was recognized from the news...i wonder if they tried having his family or an imam speak with him before going in


it's such a shame that 3 had died



(side note UBER had increased their rates up to $100 in the area during the crisis)

[Tr1ll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLXSx3xTYog

[TOPEC]

all those flashes n bang, the newsman "it could be stunguns" :fulloffuck:

[InvisibleSoul]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLXSx3xTYog

That's fucking intense. I'm surprised there were only two hostages killed.

[Reeyal]

Whoa, in the video, there were like at least 30 shots fired when they stormed the place.

[Yodamaster]

Oh look, a crazy person with a gun in a "gun free" country.

[CP.AR]

You could have at least posted a good journalistic source that is not vancitybuzz.

BBC News - Australia commandos end Sydney cafe siege (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-30485355)

believe it or not, BBC interviewed a Buzzfeed writer... cited the website as an "Online news service"

[4444]

i haven't read all the details, but get the general gist here re: the standoff, but in reality, would any of us have a problem if they'd have ended it much sooner with a well timed, expertly executed sniper shot to the upper torso or head? (we can assume this guy was not smart enough to stay out of shot the entire time.

I appreciate that with give or take 30 people inside that would have been hard so as to avoid collateral damage, but i don't doubt it could have been done - for the sake of two innocent people, i'm not sure the standoff was worth it for the chance of a peaceful resolution here.

[BrRsn]

i haven't read all the details, but get the general gist here re: the standoff, but in reality, would any of us have a problem if they'd have ended it much sooner with a well timed, expertly executed sniper shot to the upper torso or head? (we can assume this guy was not smart enough to stay out of shot the entire time.

I appreciate that with give or take 30 people inside that would have been hard so as to avoid collateral damage, but i don't doubt it could have been done - for the sake of two innocent people, i'm not sure the standoff was worth it for the chance of a peaceful resolution here.

real life isn't a movie :suspicious:

[4444]

real life isn't a movie :suspicious:

i think it's clear life isn't a movie. but given the amount of window frontage that was apparent, and given there was running commentary of where the guy was in the store, it is evident eyes were on him the whole time.

i do not hesitate to think that the skilled men and women of the Australian special forces could have taken him out with 1 shot. not sure why you think it is so hard to imagine

[multicartual]

i think it's clear life isn't a movie. but given the amount of window frontage that was apparent, and given there was running commentary of where the guy was in the store, it is evident eyes were on him the whole time.

i do not hesitate to think that the skilled men and women of the Australian special forces could have taken him out with 1 shot. not sure why you think it is so hard to imagine


I think because if, by some chance they missed, the guy could gun down all of the hostages? I don't know, whatever

[4444]

I think because if, by some chance they missed, the guy could gun down all of the hostages? I don't know, whatever

you don't think they'd have a dozen other eyes and guns on him?

you do realize that this is exactly what SWAT teams and equivalent special forces are for, right?

also, you wouldn't take the shot if you weren't 99.9% sure of success.

the decision was likely made as they thought they could save all lives. this decision lost 2 important lives, and 1 fucktard's

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

maybe they were only 99.8% sure of success. duh.

[GFunk]

(side note UBER had increased their rates up to $100 in the area during the crisis)

The media all latched onto this as if someone behind a computer at Uber HQ saw the situation and decided to take advantage of it to make an extra buck when in reality, all it was was an increase in demand for ubers out of the city which triggered their surge pricing. They then offered free rides for everyone leaving the cbd and kept the surge price for drivers to encourage more to come online.

i haven't read all the details, but get the general gist here re: the standoff, but in reality, would any of us have a problem if they'd have ended it much sooner with a well timed, expertly executed sniper shot to the upper torso or head? (we can assume this guy was not smart enough to stay out of shot the entire time.

I appreciate that with give or take 30 people inside that would have been hard so as to avoid collateral damage, but i don't doubt it could have been done - for the sake of two innocent people, i'm not sure the standoff was worth it for the chance of a peaceful resolution here.

Just a guess but given the threat of bombs planted around the city, they must have considered the possibility of a dead man's switch and the consequences of sniping him down

[underscore]

Supposedly one of the victims, Tori Johnson, died while trying to wrestle a gun from the hostage taker as he was dozing off. Presumably that triggered the storming of the place.

RIP to Tori Johnson and Katrina Dawson.

considering they had snipers surrounding the place, im surprised they didn't shoot him when he was spotted by the window (if they were planning on taking him down anyhow)

surprised they stormed the place considering his claims of having a bomb and having set several bombs around the city

You're surprised they didn't shoot him but also surprised they killed him due to bomb claims?

[Traum]

i haven't read all the details, but get the general gist here re: the standoff, but in reality, would any of us have a problem if they'd have ended it much sooner with a well timed, expertly executed sniper shot to the upper torso or head? (we can assume this guy was not smart enough to stay out of shot the entire time.

I appreciate that with give or take 30 people inside that would have been hard so as to avoid collateral damage, but i don't doubt it could have been done - for the sake of two innocent people, i'm not sure the standoff was worth it for the chance of a peaceful resolution here.

I'm on my phone now, so I'm gonna keep it short, but I suggest you read into the news story first because doing so would give you the reason why it wasn't feasible to snipe the gunman - he had the hostages standing by the storefront window, with their hands placed on the front glass, where each hostage may be standing up to 2 hours at a time. And then the gunman himself was often seen pacing back and forth in the store.

Neither of those situations sound like scenarios where a sniper could get a clear fatal shot to me.

[StylinRed]

You're surprised they didn't shoot him but also surprised they killed him due to bomb claims?

im surprised they did storm in to kill him because of the bomb claims

and im surprised that since they did decide to storm the place that they didn't snipe him instead (double rainbow ;))


as for not being able to snipe because of hostages at the windows, as seen on the news he was seen at the window several times without hostages in the way

im more interested in how the decision to go in came about and if they tried anything else other than biding their time

[FerrariEnzo]

what sickens me is when tourist are taking selfies outside the cafe and then posting it... I wanted to smack them or throw them into that cafe... are they fucking retards and think its funny