[roastpuff]

As posted on Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/15/us-honda-civic-type-r-engine-report/#aol-comments):

Honda is bent on kicking butt and taking names with its upcoming new Civic Type R, but since the Japanese hot hatch is based on the European model and isn't slated to come to the United States, it's been of little consolation to American enthusiasts. But if you're one of them, we've got good news for you.

According to Spanish site Motor Y Racing, a US version of the Civic Type R is in the works. The salient part of the Type R that would make the oceanic voyage to US showrooms would be the 2.0-liter turbo four that's said to produce between 276 and 320 horsepower, but we could expect upgraded suspension, rolling stock and other equipment to come as part of the package as well.

Just what form it would take we don't know. Currently American Honda offers the Civic as a coupe or sedan - not as a hatchback or wagon like it does overseas - so chances are that it'd be one of these betrunked body-styles that would get the upgrades. We're hoping for something more than an upgrade of the current Civic Si.

Competing rumors suggest that Honda could offer that same engine in a revised version of the CR-Z hybrid hatchback, which has long been begging for a more potent powerplant. But that's not to say that Honda couldn't offer both with the new turbo VTEC engine. Having driven prototypes for more performance-oriented versions of both the Civic and the CR-Z at Honda's R&D center in Japan a little over a year ago, this writer could tell you that either prospect bodes well for the return of the red H badge to the high-performance arena

Pls pls pls Honda pls! :ahwow::tears:

[radioman]

I've never been a fan of the civic but please yes yes yes

It will make the marketplace more competitive to have another quick affordable car. Imagine if auto makers keep on their promises and we have a turbo civic and a car like the kia stinger and an upgraded FRS.

YES PLEASE.

[Timpo]

320hp for a Civic! :eek:

just to put in perspective.. here are cars with 320hp or less.

Acura NSX
290hp
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Xo-bozU8P64/Td4qUn_V1vI/AAAAAAAAAx4/fyayJVgk7UE/s1600/acura-nsx.jpg

BMW Nazca M12
300hp
http://bmwblog-rus.com/wp-content/gallery/bmw-nazca-m12/bmw_nazca-m12-37.jpg

Toyota Supra
320hp
http://www.murtaya.com/Pictures/supra.jpg

Porsche 911 Turbo
260hp
http://www.grand-classic.com/daten/Image/Projekte/Porsche-930-Turbo-Coupe-Bj-1976-Bild1.jpg

Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
320hp
http://www.classic-autoglas.ch/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mitsubishi_3000gt_VR4.jpg

Ferrari 348
300hp
http://motorcardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ferrari348_top.jpg

Chevrolet Corvette
300hp
http://assets.hemmings.com/story_image/352441-1000-0.jpg

[cdizzle_996]

Nice one Timpo, no one have EVER seen 300+ hp before

[Timpo]

Nice one Timpo, no one have EVER seen 300+ hp before

I think it's quite impressive for Civic. It's a Corolla competitor.

[mos_skeeto]

VTEC's back.

Back again.

VTEC's back.

Tell a friend..

nananananananana.

[tofu1413]

I think it's quite impressive for Civic. It's a Corolla competitor.

:pokerface:


I think you have made a valid point.

[flagella]

Thanks for the perspectives timpo. I feel enlightened.

[boostfever]

LOL gotta love how a one-off concept car Nazca C2 makes in the same list as a Mitsubishi 3000 and Corvette C4

[smoothie.]

I will buy one


But itll probably be over 40k

so I wont.

[Dragon-88]

Its been too long since the vtec has kicked in, yo! :okay:

[sonick]

LOL gotta love how a one-off concept car Nazca C2 makes in the same list as a Mitsubishi 3000 and Corvette C4

I was intrigued at first when I saw the NSX to start Timpo's list, as that is quite a salient point of comparison on how far cars today have come along.


... and then I saw the Nazca below it :rukidding:

[white rocket]

Cool that Honda is bringing the red H and the "R" tag back to North America but I'm not holding my breath for something that is both awesome AND affordable. It will be one or the other.

[CorneringArtist]

It would need to be priced competitvely enough to take on the Focus ST (and now the RS), GTI, and the upcoming Mazdaspeed3 when it comes out. I say anywhere from 27-37k as a wild guess on price.

[PuYang]

I know I'm probably the minority here, but Euro civic FN2 is still one of my most favorite cars ever! (I have strange standards I guess lol).

If they end up bringing the Euro styled Hatch Civic Type R, I would trade-in my GTI instantly.

[shenmecar]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/56006282.jpg

[Tone Loc]

Would buy it over an FRS if the price points were similar....

... if Honda doesn't fuck up and bring the hatchback/wagon variant over here. 320hp and room for all my work gear, groceries, and an overnight bag or two for under $30k would be amazing. Not to mention living out my VTEC fantasies.

Also, I don't get why everyone is failing Timpo. It's very enlightening, as well as pretty awesome to see all the "real" exotic sports cars that now have less HP than a "sporty" economy car. If you've watched that Smoking Tire video where a V6 Camry sedan beats a Ferrari 348 in a drag race you know what I mean. Cars have come a long long way in the past 30 years.

[SpeedStars]

Exclusive: American Honda responds to Civic Type R rumors - Torque News (http://www.torquenews.com/1574/exclusive-american-honda-responds-civic-type-r-rumors) looks like we gotta keep dreaming folks

[rice cooker]

having a 320hp civic is equivalent to raising the minimum wage to $15/hour

:seriously::fulloffuck::fuckthatshit::troll:

[twitchyzero]

import a EK9 Type-R for like 20% of the price and I'm willing to bet it'll still be more fun

[Timpo]

It would need to be priced competitvely enough to take on the Focus ST (and now the RS), GTI, and the upcoming Mazdaspeed3 when it comes out. I say anywhere from 27-37k as a wild guess on price.

I would say the Golf GTI is in different class.

Honda Civic Type-R: 320hp
Ford Focus RS: 330hp
Volkswagen Golf GTI: 210hp

Having 110hp to 120hp disadvantage is quite huge in this category.

[thumper]

Exclusive: American Honda responds to Civic Type R rumors - Torque News (http://www.torquenews.com/1574/exclusive-american-honda-responds-civic-type-r-rumors) looks like we gotta keep dreaming folks

"regional marketing thing" my ass... someone at honda really needs to wake up and figure out how to federalize the euro civic for north american shores and get out of their mentality that we only want sedans and coupes here.

as far as i'm concerned, the last good civic on our shores was the EK-series. after that they are all dead to me :(

[punkwax]

Love that front end shot.

[Timpo]

Lancer EVO makes 440hp in England, and 291hp in Canada/USA.

Lancer Evolution X | Performance Sports Car | Mitsubishi Motors UK (http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/evolution/)

[boostfever]

Lancer EVO makes 440hp in England, and 291hp in Canada/USA.

Lancer Evolution X | Performance Sports Car | Mitsubishi Motors UK (http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/evolution/)

that's an special edition. also 50K GBP? :fuckthatshit:

[white rocket]

as far as i'm concerned, the last good civic on our shores was the EK-series. after that they are all dead to me :(

Absolutely!

[Gucci Mane]

Exclusive: American Honda responds to Civic Type R rumors - Torque News (http://www.torquenews.com/1574/exclusive-american-honda-responds-civic-type-r-rumors) looks like we gotta keep dreaming folks

this is retarded. if ford is able to sell the same exact car all over the world using the same motor(fiesta st), why the fuck cant honda do it?

[thumper]

this is retarded. if ford is able to sell the same exact car all over the world using the same motor(fiesta st), why the fuck cant honda do it?

not sure. the euro-spec civic is not officially sold outside of europe (built in swindon england i think) and was not designed with other world markets in mind. i'm not that familiar with the euro civic but i'm not even sure there is a LHD version. because of this it dosen't share much with north american hondas so i am assuming that honda bean counters would be against all the costs associated with just bringing the only oddball model into north america and turn a profit?

[RE-Jo]

I have a feeling the new Si will be around 220 hp... Just wait

[CorneringArtist]

not sure. the euro-spec civic is not officially sold outside of europe (built in swindon england i think) and was not designed with other world markets in mind. i'm not that familiar with the euro civic but i'm not even sure there is a LHD version. because of this it dosen't share much with north american hondas so i am assuming that honda bean counters would be against all the costs associated with just bringing the only oddball model into north america and turn a profit?

Didn't they build the EP SiR in Swindon as well though? IIRC, that was the one generation of Si not built in North America, and was sold alongside the Canadian-built Civic. There is an off-chance that might repeat with the upcoming generation of NA-produced Civic.

[kadafi]

I still have an EP3, since Honda hasn't released another hatchback after this generation.

Back in 2002 Happy Honda needed to lower from the MSRP $25k to $21k to get people to consider EP3

Really looking forward to another European (designed & built in UK) coming over....and make sure to keep the same engine as EUDM, not the economy vtec again...

[spoon.ek9]

:considered:

[tegra7]

https://www.change.org/p/honda-motor-company-bring-the-2015-civic-type-r-vtec-turbo-to-north-america/u/9301696?tk=ieeEhx8hNp6BiKwgt12lrC5styAkfNkO96Ghnu5 cUTU&utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=email

NEW VTEC TURBO ENGINES

nikos stoufis
northfield, MN
Jan 15, 2015 — Dear supporters,

thank you for signing the petition and believing in the true power of dreams.

Yesterday, Honda North America announced that by the end of 2015 it will begin producing the new VTEC Turbo engines.

Without mentioning anything about the chassis that will carry the turbo powerplants, it placed these very exciting news deep inside an announcement about the Honda FCV 2018 Concept.

Quote taken from Honda to Launch Next Generation Advanced Powertrain Vehicles by 2018, Honda FCV Concept Makes North American Debut - Honda News (http://www.hondanews.com/releases/honda-to-launch-next-generation-advanced-powertrain-vehicles-by-2018-honda-fcv-concept-makes-north-american-debut)

"New VTEC® Turbo Engines
Before the end of the year, Honda will begin to introduce our new 4-cylinder VTEC® Turbo engines – an extension of its Earth Dreams™ Technology powertrain lineup – that will deliver fun-to-drive performance while supporting fuel efficiency at a very high level. Production of the new VTEC® Turbo engines will begin later this year at Honda's Anna, Ohio, engine plant, the largest automobile engine plant in Honda's global production network1. Honda is investing $340 million at the Anna Engine Plant to produce the VTEC® Turbo 4-cylinder engines using domestic and globally sourced parts, including the addition of a third assembly line for production of 4-cylinder engines and additional manufacturing innovations."

So the same engine that is powering the Civic Type R in Europe will be also made here in North America. The question remains about the type of car that will be powered by the latest turbo technology.

Is it going to be just another Civic Si with a turbo engine or are they going to deliver a real type r ?

Don't get me wrong, the turbo engines coming is huge but in my humble opinion Honda does not want to upset the already declining sales for a short lived 9th generation Civic.

The 10th generation civic is just around the corner and we have received confirmation that a turbo powerplant will be available. My sources tell me that there are going to be various turbocharged options. The Civic will come in sedan, hatchback and coupe options. The Si model will be powered by a 1.5 L (210HP-220HP) turbo vtec engine and the type r will be powered by the 2.0L (280HP-300HP) with the sedan getting the DOHC DDI 1.8 L engine (155HP-160HP).

Thank you for believing in this petition and supporting a nobel cause.

I started a community for the Generation X (10th) Civic and you are most welcome to join it and discuss these very exciting news.

2016 10th Generation Civic Unofficial Forum (http://genxcivic.com/forum/index.php)

All the best and thank you again for supporting this petition. Please keep sharing it until Honda officially announces the lineup.

Yours truly ,

Nikos Stoufis
info@svmcams.com

[PuYang]

Whoa whoa whoa, HATCHBACK Civic coming to North America?

The Turbo and potential Type R is awesome, but I'll happily settle for a SI hatchback if the Type R doesn't come! (assuming they offer Hatchback for the SI).

[tegra7]

Whoa whoa whoa, HATCHBACK Civic coming to North America?

The Turbo and potential Type R is awesome, but I'll happily settle for a SI hatchback if the Type R doesn't come! (assuming they offer Hatchback for the SI).

The Euro CTR wont be coming to North America.

Honda North America announced that by the end of 2015 it will begin producing the new VTEC Turbo engines

[Akinari]

Mmmmmm

New Civic Type R Finally Coming, Ear-Tingling Video Released ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/new-honda-civic-type-r-finally-happening-ear-tingling-teaser-video-released/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJla-AlnlqY

[white rocket]

I love Honda to death and am excited about this caR but it will have stiff competition with the AWD Turbo Focus coming out soon. It will be interesting to see how they stack up to each other.

[spoon.ek9]

will consider if type R hatch makes it's way to Canada. srs.

[Akinari]

I'm staying optimistic, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got the dumbed down, softened version in the form of another "Si" or "SiR"

[twitchyzero]

lol saw this title in the related thread section

http://www.revscene.net/forums/674369-fs-2001-honda-crv-4wd-5spd-b18c-type-r-itr-engine-210hp.html

if the CTR ever comes to the Canadian market it would probably be $45k and still only be half as fun as its 90's counterpart

[denham]

I would be all over a type-r civic! Even the current Si is a decent car, I'd have one of those for sure.

[GLOW]

VTEC's back.

Back again.

VTEC's back.

Tell a friend..

nananananananana.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/af8d8a641b1bf5f2a3f0b6146d88ebe5/tumblr_mn3qcsPqkT1s6tyapo1_400.gif

[hud 91gt]

Timpo's post does make you think a bit. When that Ferrari 348 came out, I was in awe. Never knew it had ~300hp. Bloody Civic's are still going to beat my "fast" car. Damnit.

[Traum]

So... 300hp, turbo VTEC, 7k rpm redline.

I am the only one that is more excited by a mere 195hp, NA old skool VTEC that redlines at 8.4k rpm than the rumoured upcoming Civic Type R?

[Zordon]

Dammit, not another English made Honda. I had so many little issues with my 04 EP3.

[white rocket]

I am the only one that is more excited by a mere 195hp, NA old skool VTEC that redlines at 8.4k rpm than the rumoured upcoming Civic Type R?

No, you are not. I'm still living in the EK/DC/B16B/B18C world and loving every minute of it.

[spoon.ek9]

a lot of us still feel the same :hotbaby:

[Zulu]

I feel like Timpo hijacked this thread with the 1980s

[ilovebacon]

This car looooks so fucking nice! I'll buy it even if it doesn't have vtec

[Traum]

Compared the 300hp turbo VTEC Civic Type R to any of the pre-2003 cars you see from this link:

CAR and DRIVER - History of Honda Si Cars in America (http://www.caranddriver.com/flipbook/kicking-in-the-history-of-honda-si-cars-in-america)

I am definitely so much more excited about the oldies than this new and upcoming CTR...