[J-Chow]

I hate them. Oversized. Heavy. Gas guzzlers. No fun to drive IMO.

I swore I'd never buy one..........

That was 11 years ago.

Having said that, now I have an 8 month old son, and coming September, a second child.

FML. :okay:

So I'd like to ask the RS members (assuming all the dads/ moms out there who have minivans), their expertise, opinions, and experience if they have owned or driven any of the following vehicles written below.

Hopefully, I'll be looking to buy one in the summer time or perhaps upcoming Fall.
Currently, wife has 2012 accent hatchback, and I have 2014 mazda cx5.

I'm looking into a 7-8 seater minivan, with a budget of $35-38k. One car has gotta go, so wife's hatch will be used as a trade in or sold.

Reason behind the 7-8 seater is that I need to haul the in-laws aka (baby sitters) when we go out. :lol

Preferably, the options I'd like are sliding doors, rear entertainment dvd screens, foldable 2nd and 3rd row seats, rear view cam and sunroof. No need for leather seating, AWD (only Sienna has that now), or NAVI.

I've done some researching and I've narrowed down to a few choices (not a lot to choose from lol)

Honda Odyssey
Toyota Sienna
Dodge Grand Caravan
Kia Sedona

*Maybe Mazda 5 but that's a 6 seater and it doesn't look like it has a lot of space to play with

Your input is greatly appreciated. :thumbs:

[SpeedStars]

Ive been in the caravan, sedona, mazda 5, and my parents own a sienna. Let me tell you...DO NOT EVER GET A CARAVAN EVEN IF IT IS DIRT CHEAP. We have 2015 town country's and GCs at work and theyre shite If you were to own it. Rough idling sometimes, horrid clunking transmission, and power options failing out of nowhere. The sedona is quite spacious but im not sure about reliability. The middle row of seats fold forward in a peculiar way that allows very easy access to the back seats. Power folding mirrors and rear view camera come standard as well. Imo, the Sedona is actually the most spacious of minivans. M5, if you're taller than 5"8 you'll find that the front seats dont go back enough. I felt my legs were squished and I'm only 5"10. Sienna....get the SE trim at the very least as anything below that will feel cheap with plastic and fake buttons everywhere

[BrRsn]

For work I had to drive either the Dodge Grand Caravan or the Toyota Sienna. Compared to the Caravan, the Sienna was faster, more fun to drive, and held up a lot better (in terms of break downs, complaints, issues, etc). In all honesty, I kinda liked driving the Sienna. The engine is torquey and it had no problem spinning the wheels off the line :fuckthatshit:


My cousin just bought a new Odyssey -- the interior is amazing in the top trim but V6 honda + Auto = bad combo



inb4 banned from revscene for commenting on minivan performance

[Alby]

somewhat same situation here but i don't meant to throw this thread off topic. im currently looking to buy a bigger car since i have 2 kids now. i do want a sienna but the wife is a no go on the van. so we are currently looking into the 4runner. anyone currently rocking the 4runner with 2 kids? inputs would also be greatly appreciated.

[Spoon]

Had thoughts of upgrading our SUV to a minivan. While we never went as far as going on test drives, we mainly had the Odyssey and Sienna in mind. After doing some research, we've basically short listed it down to the Sienna because of this:

V6 honda + Auto = bad combo

We're not the kind of people that changes cars every few years, so this was a deal breaker for us as most people claim the tranny dies around 100k. But if OP could look past that, the Odyssey from what I remember offers decent feature for the price. Like OP, we wanted the entertainment system and I think the Odyssey was the one that fit the bill. I believe the Sienna only had that available in their highest model, and it was like 40k+.

I would only get a caravan as a last option. Inlaws have one and I despise sitting in it because the seats are really uncomfortable.

[Edison_Chen]

I'll be honest, the best 2 are the Sienna and the Odyssey. I was set on buying the Odyssey but after driving the Sienna and being a Toyota fan boy, I ended up with the Toyota Sienna XLE fwd. I did not opt for the Awd because of the run flat tires and no spare tire.

No issues with anything yet, it's been 3 years already. No power door/trunk failures yet....

[mb_]

My uncle has a Sienna and I've driven it a few times. Has a lot of room and actually pretty comfortable to drive. It hauls some ass considering how heavy it is, it's faster than my car in a straight line :okay: Your kids will never be late for soccer practice ever again :lawl:

[Traum]

The most sensible choices are going to be the Sienna and Odyssey, but make sure you are 100% comfortable with their size and the way they drive. Assuming that you're buying new (seems like that's what you plan on doing), the current gen Sienna and Odyssey are seriously HUGE.

From a driving perspective, I am far more comfortable in the smaller Mazda5. But I am not sure if there'd be enough space for all your things when you need to chauffeur the grandparents as well.

[bcuzracecarz]

Let me tell you...DO NOT EVER GET A CARAVAN EVEN IF IT IS DIRT CHEAP.

I agree with this 100%, grew up with one and tranny blew along with many others 00's era...so they decided to try and fix the problem by adding a bunch of styling cues and tech. They're still rubbish underneath and they look very dated by today's standards.

I'd look into the Sienna, or the Odyssey personally, both have more than enough power and tons of room with more tech features than my house...but you pay for it over the M5 which is a good all rounder but space is a little more limited and quite cramped feeling in the drivers seat (drove one as a shuttle for a couple years when I worked at mazda)

[rriggi]

Sienna = sensible

GL63 AMG = not sensible

The choice is yours :troll::troll:

[punkwax]

We bought a Sienna and absolutely 0 complaints. Very comfortable, not sluggish and we actually get a lot of compliments lol

Rear entertainment system FTW!! :buttrock:

My prego wife was DD'ing some friends around and one buddy in the middle row recliner (yes, recliner, foot rest and everything) said it was like "flying first classssh" :lol

[Klondike]

Have you considered the Ford Transit Connect? It seats 7 adults.

http://www.ford.ca/resources/ford/transitconnectcommercial/2014/highlights/ctc14_highlight_lg_seating.jpg

Starts at $26k - $33k.

[freakshow]

My dad has had two Siennas, and I use them from time to time for road trips/moving stuff. It's a fantastic van, and, IMO, a better value than the Odyssey.

The Odyssey is a superb van as well, but it always seemed to be price just a little higher than the Sienna. But when you're hauling young kids around, there isn't really time to appreciate the slightly nicer faux leather on the shift knob.

[snails]

i worked for an auto group that owns a chrysler and toyota so i got to drive both caravan/t&c vs the sienna and the choice is so obviously a sienna. i actually raced a bug eye wrx and beat it on the hwy with the sienna.. sooo take that as you will haha

[Suprarz666]

I like the sienna. Power is great and it is quite roomy as well.

I know this isn't a van, but have you looked at the new Highlander? It is a 8 seater standard now and fits your budget. Plus it looks awesome imo.

[meme405]

Bruhhhh.

To take a page out of Timpo's book:

http://www.mobilnissankudus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2011-Nissan-Elgrand.jpg

You might ask yourself why.

Because:

http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/SEMA-JDM-42-copy.jpg

JDM BROO

[inv4zn]

We had a 1st gen Sienna, which we traded in for a 2nd gen Sienna.

Neither car had any big problems, and in fact, were the most headache free out of all of them.

You don't want leather seats in a minivan, especially with two toddlers. You're paying extra for something that will inevitably be covered in vomit.

I'd say Sienna. However, the newest Kia minivan is also getting pretty damn good reviews. Check that out as well.

[SpeedStars]

Hearing everyone say theres a ton of power in the sienna...and the one we got is the 160hp 4cyl one...:ohgodwhy:

[boibuddha]

My mother had a 98 Sienna, bought it in 2000. It treated her well until we got rid of it in 2013.

Positives:
-Required nothing but the bare essential maintenance
- Transmission lasted until about 270k (w/o changing the fluid)
- Comfiest minivan I have ever ridden in (out of Nissan, Honda, Dodge, Toyota)

Negatives:
- Cheap Plastic Everywhere (creaks in the dash, door handles + internals)
*** Had the trunk door mechanism break so it was locked/closed permanently (happened in 2012)
- ABS system failed after a couple of years and was known for failing in that generation ($3000 fix + questionable lifetime)
- TPMS crapped out after about 5 years or so

Initial quality and value goes to Honda but if you are planning on keeping this thing for 10 years, the Toyota is head and shoulders above the rest.

[shenmecar]

You can't spell Sienna without:

http://www.craveonline.com/images/stories/2011/Film/Senna_DVD.jpg

Have I made my point?

[inv4zn]

Hearing everyone say theres a ton of power in the sienna...and the one we got is the 160hp 4cyl one...:ohgodwhy:

I didn't even know they made a 4cyl Sienna :lawl:

Did a quick search, less hp/tonne than a same year Corolla hahah

[BrRsn]

0-60 in around 7 seconds flat and 15 second quarter mile ... Sienna is where it's at!

[snails]

0-60 in around 7 seconds flat and 15 second quarter mile ... Sienna is where it's at!

15 second? high 15's i would assume, most quick street cars are in the low 15's and high 14's (depending how the power is put down)

still impressive for a van

[Timpo]

Bruhhhh.

To take a page out of Timpo's book:

http://www.mobilnissankudus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2011-Nissan-Elgrand.jpg

You might ask yourself why.

Because:

http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/SEMA-JDM-42-copy.jpg

JDM BROOthis.

It's very easy to convert Quest to Elgrand. They're virtually the same thing. Same chassis, engine, drivetrain, etc.

http://www.mad4wheels.com/webpics/hires/00009190%20-%202011%20Nissan%20Elgrand%20(%20E52%20)%20Highway %20Star%20Urban%20Chrome/2011_Nissan_Elgrand_(_E52_)_Highway_Star_Urban_Chr ome_003_3637.jpg
http://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/n/nismo/nissan/elgrand_performance_package/nismo_nissan_elgrand_performance_package_1.jpeg

[bcuzracecarz]

I hate the rear wrap around window on the Nissan...makes it look like a hurse

[Timpo]

Mazda 5 is ok too, it's more compact and good on gas.

http://www.kenstyle.co.jp/aeroparts/img/main/main_228.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/002/115/931/2115931/p1.jpg

[vexor]

I have personally only driven the 2014 Sienna and 2014 Mazda 5. The Mazda 5 is a bit more fun to drive but technically it is considered a "mini" minivan because it's based on the Mazda 3 platform and it's so much smaller than other minivans.

Since you are looking for a lot of space I'd recommend you go for the Sienna. Lots of space, lots of option to choose from (if you want), and pretty good driving dynamics despite it's large size.

[!SG]

mercedes v class?

[Timpo]

yeah Sienna is not bad

http://www.rokkey.co.jp/usedcar/stocklist/2012/2012toyota_sienna_blk_custom/images/02.jpg
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20130828/22/skpdezign/10/00/j/o0650043312665029767.jpg
http://www.gmblog.net/menu01/img/m1230167_img_001_url.jpg
http://www.skipper.co.jp/gallery/toyota/101/001.jpg
http://www.skipper.co.jp/gallery/toyota/101/004.jpg
http://www.skipper.co.jp/gallery/toyota/101/201.jpg
http://www.skipper.co.jp/gallery/toyota/101/202.jpg
http://www.skipper.co.jp/gallery/toyota/101/205.jpg

[Timpo]

btw if you wanna get Odyssey, don't even bother getting one now.

The new one will be coming very soon.

2017 Honda Odyssey Spy Photos ? News ? Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2017-honda-odyssey-spy-photos-news)
2016 Honda Odyssey | My Blog (http://www.2016hondanews.com/2016-honda-odyssey/)


http://mycars.country/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/honda-odyssey-new-body-style-2016.jpg
http://autostype.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2016-Honda-Odyssey-Canada.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUwIeXdgmXI

[Alby]

only sienna i would buy is the SE

[Timpo]

Sienna DUB Edition

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/1057011-2/2015-toyota-sienna-dub-edition-03.jpg
http://images.designntrend.com/data/images/full/26960/toyota-sema-dub-sienna-1.jpg

[SpeedStars]

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/toyota-sienna-is-a-looker-with-vossen-wheels-photo-gallery_2.jpg thread became timpo thread

[dared3vil0]

Well it only seats six, and is very hard to find but...

R63 AMG. Because awesome. :fullofwin:




http://nice-cool-pics.com/data/media/6/mercedes-benz_r63_amg_2007.jpg

[meme405]

Well it only seats six, and is very hard to find but...

R63 AMG. Because awesome. :fullofwin:



I've had a good deal of seat time in an R550, and I can't imagine the power in an AMG variant. Overkill probably can't even begin to explain the different levels of awesomeness.

[GotRice?]

stick with sienna... it is such a cool minivan... too bad we don't get alphard or vellfire..

http://www.airsociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/toyota-sienna-auto-customs-bagged-air-ride-suspension-stance-slammed-van-013.jpg


http://www.airsociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/toyota-sienna-auto-customs-bagged-air-ride-suspension-stance-slammed-van-021.jpg

http://www.ravspec.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/309.jpg

https://d9hblenkye35w.cloudfront.net/media/thumbnail/ext/xl/https%253A%252F%252Ffbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net%252Fhphotos-ak-xap1%252Ft1.0-9%252F10460732_670327669715223_7001436675117986188 _n.png

[JesseBlue]

2005 mazda lx gfx package $1700firm (http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/4891130771.html)

try it out first. spend 2k

[Manic!]

What about a Ford Flex?

http://tuningsuv.com/albums/userpics/10001/Ford_Flex_Custom__46079.jpg

[Timpo]

I think Nissan Quest with Elgrand conversion would look the best

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5509/12093944015_f90580b82f_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3679/12093944345_5d47ba4ee1_b.jpg

[Akinari]

Yeahhh Elgrand/Quest looks nice but sorry not getting a death trap for my kids. The platform is over 5 years old (current gen Elgrand went on sale in Japan in 2010).

http://youtu.be/5UU4N7sbXzo

Meanwhile, the Odyssey and Sienna are both top safety picks. Get the Sienna, used to work at Toyota and can confirm all the previous comments about the Sienna being able to haul ass, the engine has so much torque and spins its tires surprisingly easy. Pretty fun to drive for minivan standards. Can't stand the current gen Odyssey, just looks wrong and cheap.

[blackGS?]

SWAGGER WAGON | Toyota: http://youtu.be/ql-N3F1FhW4

[Tone Loc]

x10000 on saying no to a Dodge Caravan. My dad had a 1993 Grand Caravan and it was an absolute piece of crap. Mechanical issues galore, lots of little electronic issues, the list went on. In fact, it - along with his previous car, a Pontiac 6000 LE - ended up causing him to stay away from domestic cars forever and he now drives a Honda.

That said, I wouldn't buy any Honda with a V6 and automatic transmission since the issues with previous engine/trans combinations in all of their cars are pretty well documented.

My GF's aunt/uncle have a Sienna, having ridden in it a few times they are good quality vehicles with lots of room and a decent amount of power (keeps up with my AE86 in a straight line lol ): ).

[v_tec]

Sienna SE

http://www.airsociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/toyota-sienna-auto-customs-bagged-air-ride-suspension-stance-slammed-van-004.jpg

[Mikoyan]

You don't want leather seats in a minivan, especially with two toddlers. You're paying extra for something that will inevitably be covered in vomit.



On day 28 right now with my first kid, and after repeatedly wiping up spit-up and vomit off the leather couch, I think I'd lean toward leather seats over cloth as easier to clean. I remember when my brother would get carsick a lot as a kid and vomit into the fabric seats. The smell never goes away.

My dad was a Dodge/Chrysler mechanic for 30+ years. He says to stay away from the new Caravans.

[SoNaRWaVe]

i like all these pics of pimped out vans. all looks dope.

but seriously, who would actually do that to their van :lol

[alex.w *//]

Funny how this thread became the modified minivan thread

[Timbits93]

Parents have had their 1st gen Sienna for more than 10 years, 130K+ KM (not much driving) and nothing more than just regular maintenance, timing belt (which is a chain with the current 3.5L 2GR-FE) and replaced the valve cover gasket. Other than that been pretty reliable.

Regardless, can't go wrong with either the Odyssey or Sienna, though the Sienna would have a better reliability track record since Honda had their transmission issues back in the day with their V6s. Also the Sienna comes in the Sport SE trim... even though it's a minivan.

Though I'd have to agree with a number of us in this thread, Leather seats is a MUST with kids as it makes for easy clean up.

[heleu]

I have a 2 year old and I'm not sure why you wouldn't want leather seats. Yes, they throw food, and could vomit, but isn't easier to clean leather seats than cloth seats? I mean, with cloth, it just absorbs it. I'd splurge on the leather, it's easier to clean.


With regards to the Sienna vs Odyssey, I noticed that pretty much all the local cabs use Siennas, which must say something about reliability or long-term bang for the buck.

[NNT]

Current owner of a 2014 Mazda 5, don't get one as it doesn't fit your need. the middle row is very roomy so perfect to put child seat. but you are killing your in-laws at the back row.

[murd0c]

I didn't know minivan's could look so cool until I came into this thread. That being said why a mini van when you could go with a SUV such as a new 4runner or something like that?

[meme405]

I didn't know minivan's could look so cool until I came into this thread. That being said why a mini van when you could go with a SUV such as a new 4runner or something like that?

You know why I love people that buy minivans?

Because when the kid is between the ages of 5 and like 15, when they park beside you and the kid opens the sliding door like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxbwPB1O5Ro

The only car they damages is their own.

Otherwise I agree with you, hundred percent I would buy an SUV over a minivan, no level of practicality will make me want to own a minivan. (I guess a lot of others say this, and eventually they change their mind, but I really don't see myself picking a minivan over a QX56, or escalade.

[GLOW]

i've driven a mazda5 and it does drive/feel like a mazda3 hatch just a little bigger & higher up. i've driven a caravan and it feels quite large if you're not used to driving big vehicles. 7 seats in the 5 is nice but if you are using all 5, you have pretty much no space in the back 'trunk' area. if somehow you can fit a double stroller in there, no more room for groceries. but there's space in between the 2 middle seats for that i suppose. i guess that's why i see so many mazda5's with roof racks :lol

i don't think a mazda5 is too bad if you don't have too much stuff to carry. i personally like to travel light anyway, and i've gotten by with an accord with my 2 little ones. but ya it would suck for inlaws in the rear seats if you drive them around often.

[Poknat]

I own a 2013 Toyota Sienna
I have 2 kids and lots of room for the double stroller, diaper bag
Groceries , 2 car seats.

And lots of aftermarket parts for the 2011-present Sienna

http://www.vankulture.com
https://www.facebook.com/VaNkulture

lowered on megan coilovers
20x10.5 mrr mk1
245 45 20 tires

guys in the states are mostly on air rides

[westopher]

For the record I'm only semi serious, but heres something with 7 seats, and as fun as you will get for crazy cheap.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/492690d1359571505-mercedes-benz-turbo-300e-3-0l-3f23p13oc5i75fb5h5d1pff11eee92314105f.jpg

[604STIG]

Like above, why minivan? If you don't "need" a sliding door, why not an SUV instead? The Ford Explorer seats 7 and there are plenty more "cooler" vehicles in this segment.

[Gumby]

Crap - I have a 2005 Honda Pilot (V6 + auto)... Hope I'm not in for a nasty surprise one day!

With that said, I'm all for SUVs over minivans. But if the OP will be using the 3rd row on a regular basis, I would recommend a minivan.

Here are my negatives for SUVs:
-Grandparents might find it hard to climb up into a SUV
-The average SUV has very little leg room in the 3rd row (unless you get a huge SUV)
-Access to the 3rd row can be difficult (compared to a minivan)

[white rocket]

Odyssey and Sienna are both excellent choices for reasons already mentioned. Dodge Caravans are fucking terrible. Brand new ones drive like garbage. Ford has stuffed too much technology into their vehicles nowadays and they have issues so I'd question reliability.

Are you stuck on a minivan configuration? My wife and I will be in the same boat as you in about 1.5 years(already have a 7 month old) and have been actively searching for a bigger alternative to our Prius. We both hate minivans and refuse to accept them into our lives. Since we both LOVE Toyota we have honed in on the Highlander(specifically the Hybrid). All models except the Limited offer seating for 8. I believe the Pilot also offers this but I'm not a fan of the body style.

Just something to consider if you don't want to venture into minivan territory but still need seating for 8 passengers.

[freakshow]

I didn't know minivan's could look so cool until I came into this thread. That being said why a mini van when you could go with a SUV such as a new 4runner or something like that?
Sliding doors will save you so many times (door dings, easy access, loading stuff in/out). Auto-sliding doors are a nice touch too.

[Timpo]

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/713/557/3713557/p3.jpg

[OriginalJC]

I purchased a Mazda 5 for my wife. Good on gas, lots of room, and the 3rd row seating is there when needed.

Ours is a 2010, the last gen not looking so 'mini-van' like. Zero problems, pretty reliable. As others have said, it's like a raised Mazda 3.

For straight up minivan though, I'd go with a Odyssey. Comfort and available features are pretty good.

[Edison_Chen]

One off the main reasons I chose a minivan over a 3 row suv ( highlander/pilot/4Runner), because I can carry 7 passengers and still carry a decent amount of luggage in the van.

Last year, the wife and son (at the time), we went to Seattle to pick up my parents and aunt/uncle from a one week cruise. We stayed at Tulalip casino the night before so we didn't have to get up that early in the morning to drive down.
One we loaded the van up it was nearly packed. We even have some space to do shopping at the Premium Outlets and also grocery shopping at Costco. There is no way a 3 row suv could carry all of the stuff even with a Thule box on top.

Yes, a lot of you will say how often will you drive your parents/in laws around; probably not very often. It's not easy carrying a travel system with the new born in the 3 row suv while fully loaded.

[Timpo]

Honda Odyssey Bisimoto
3.5L V6 i-VTEC Twin-Turbo 1029hp

1029hp Honda Odyssey - Bisimoto Power Van (w/video) (http://www.superstreetonline.com/features/1407-bisimoto-2014-honda-odyssey-ex/)

http://bisimoto.com/2014/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Larry_Chen_speedhunters_bisimoto_honda_odyssey-2_resized-1024x682.jpeg
http://bisimoto.com/2014/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/e03b55e69a6411e39ad80e7e1e5385d9_8.jpeg

[rJZx]

My parents had a first gen Sienna and the transmission shit the bed around 32x,xxx... Then it was scraped :tears:

[SpartanAir]

I have to chime in: While waiting for my Stagea to arrive from Japan, I borrowed a friend's 2013 Dodge Caravan, and I have to say, it was a fuckin nightmare of a vehicle.

The front drive wheel would do burn outs on any slight incline, even in the dry. In the wet, don't even get me started. It almost seemed like it didn't matter how lightly I pressed the pedal, the wheel would slip, and when the light turns green it's pretty embarrassing when it seems like you're trying to drag race everyone :lawl: I think they have like 280 hp...do you really need that much power in a family van?

And the fuel economy was HORRENDOUS. One time I put in $30 and I got 100 km! I would think that a family friendly car would be somewhat economical. In fact the whole reason why my friend lent me his car, was that he had just bought it and it was so bad on gas, and so expensive to insure, that he just went back to driving his shitty beater Voyager.

I would go with what others are saying; The Sienna is pretty cool looking for a minivan. And you're getting Toyota reliability. Maybe a bit more $ but I'd get that.

[josel_atr]

mom bought a mazda 5 in 2007. its not bad overall. only problem is it sits 6 ppl.

what I love about this minivan is it feels like driving a small hatch, a mazda3.

mpg we get is around 23-27. so far no problems with it :)

[Poknat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j0H5sP-prk

[Manic!]

Buy a van and do a custom paint job like this:

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac25/gary1998/a-team-van-hire_zps73b623b6.jpg
Coolest van EVER!!!!

[underscore]

Whichever you pick, I'd say reliability should be one of the top priorities. You don't want the missus broken down somewhere with two young kids and you want something you can get ~12-18 years out of so you only have to buy one van in your lifetime. The used market for vans tends to be crap, back in the day some of my friends parents bought their second vans a few years before they no longer needed a van anymore and now they're still driving these things after their kids have moved out since it's not worth anything to sell.

You don't want leather seats in a minivan, especially with two toddlers. You're paying extra for something that will inevitably be covered in vomit.

Of course you want leather. Ideally you want leather and bedliner instead of carpet so you can just open the sliding doors and hose it down when a kid pukes in it.

With regards to the Sienna vs Odyssey, I noticed that pretty much all the local cabs use Siennas, which must say something about reliability or long-term bang for the buck.

That should also make maintenance a touch cheaper since the parts are more in demand.

[punkwax]

Honda doesn't do fleet deals IIRC - I could be wrong about that, heard it a long time ago, but it could be another reason you don't see them as cabs?

[white rocket]

Honda does offer fleet deals. I've done a few for body shops, etc. My guess is that it's Toyota's reputation and low maintenance that makes them desirable to cab companies.

My wife asked various cabbies over the course of a few months how they felt about the Prius whenever she was in one. They all raved about them so we bought one. Best car I ever seen in terms of reliability, maintenance, etc. We've had it for 2.5 years now and have spent about $850 on maintenance and it now has 68,xxxkms on it. Toyota FTW!!

[mos_skeeto]

You know Revscene's target demographic has moved to a certain age when... :whistle:

[BrRsn]

Honda doesn't do fleet deals IIRC - I could be wrong about that, heard it a long time ago, but it could be another reason you don't see them as cabs?

They definitely do fleet deals as my work had a lineup of Accords -- base model engine/trim though

[punkwax]

http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/1/2/8/0/5/8/original/i-stand-corrected-they-lay-in-their-coffins.jpg

[SpartanAir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j0H5sP-prk

That giant E-brake handle made me :lawl:

[SpeedStars]

Regarding fleet sales of Honda - they offer fleet discount but it is VERY VERY miniscule even if you buy at large quantities and a Honda is in general 2-3k more than a car in its class. This is why you dont see civics/accords as common in rentals. Toyota offers a steeper discount but this is falling with their face lifted models. I can tell you that ford, GM, Chrysler, and Hyundai offers the largest discounts for fleet sales

[GotRice?]

i like all these pics of pimped out vans. all looks dope.

but seriously, who would actually do that to their van :lol

:fuckyea: :fuckyea: :fuckyea: i would...

[J-Chow]

Thanks for all the input guys. After scanning through this thread, I'm leaning towards a Toyota Sienna, and possible Kia Sedona. I just can't believe the model I want, (SE Sienna) with tech pack cost $42k, and after taxes comes to about $50k for a mini van. That's insane... :heckno:
May have to venture into 2nd hand vans, but it's not my first choice.

Someone did mention the Ford Transit Connect, but I haven't personally seen anyone drive those yet, other than the commercially licensed vehicles. I checked out Ford's website, and it looks comparable to a Mazda 5? But it does seat 7 people, looks spacious inside, it maybe something I might consider.

[Timpo]

May have to venture into 2nd hand vans, but it's not my first choice.


http://www.4wd-custom.com/img/upload/zaiko/20100325164202.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/002/893/123/2893123/p2.jpg
http://blog-imgs-29-origin.fc2.com/n/e/k/nekodelica/12422077394a0a95fb20330.jpg

[Ronin]

You know Revscene's target demographic has moved to a certain age when... :whistle:

WHY ARE WE SO OLD!?

WHY GOD WHY?! Take the others but not me!

[SpeedStars]

Delicas come with a built in karaoke for those singalong songs :concentrate:

[Spectre_Cdn]

The Subaru Tribeca seats 7... or a R-class diesel?

[Timpo]

I hope you're not planning to put your kids in the back seat...here's what's gonna happen.
If you're concerned about safety, get a sedan, they have more shock absorption because of bumper, trunk, etc.

although Sienna and Odyssey will be much safer than this, here's something to think about.
392 Fifth Gear - Rear End Crash Test by J1MZ - Car Videos on StreetFire (http://www.streetfire.net/video/392-fifth-gear-rear-end-crash-test_634708.htm)

[ImportPsycho]

SUV/Crossover 7 seaters have zero cargo space once you put up the rear seats

OP, do not listen to anyone recommending 7 seater SUV. I doubt they have any kids.

I have 7 seater SUV, with only one kid, and still think it's small.
I regret buying it. I should have bought minivan from the start, or smaller, cheaper 5 seater.
last rows will be useless for you because you'll have to put strollers and bags there, you mind as well just buy 5 seater, if you want SUV.
also, last row is so cramped, no adults can seat there.

I was shopping for new minivan few months ago but gave up. couldn't believe how expansive they are....

[wickedxj]

Thanks for all the input guys. After scanning through this thread, I'm leaning towards a Toyota Sienna, and possible Kia Sedona. I just can't believe the model I want, (SE Sienna) with tech pack cost $42k, and after taxes comes to about $50k for a mini van. That's insane... :heckno:
May have to venture into 2nd hand vans, but it's not my first choice.

Someone did mention the Ford Transit Connect, but I haven't personally seen anyone drive those yet, other than the commercially licensed vehicles. I checked out Ford's website, and it looks comparable to a Mazda 5? But it does seat 7 people, looks spacious inside, it maybe something I might consider.

I'm in the same boat as you. Two kids, and the SUV is not cutting it. We testdrove the sedona last weekend, great vehicle. Was considering the Town/Country, Odyssey and Sienna. Surprised that all four of them you can build to around 50k or more with options, we are only looking at top of the line models. Not going to consider the Town/Country anymore.

Tomorrow I am heading to Toyota to look at Siennas, after doing research, and the posts in this thread, and the fact that I have not owned a vehicle that is now 4wd/awd in a long time, I am already leaning towards the Sienna.

Keep us updated, as will I. You the same J-Chow from Nasioc?

[punkwax]

I bought my Sienna 2nd hand but took my time finding the right one. AWD Limited are 60k after tax off the lot.

Saved a little more than 10k and it was basically brand new plus the 1st owner added extras, tow package, paint/rust protection, rubber mats etc that would have pushed a new one over 60k... Over 4-6 months I must have looked at ~15-20 Siennas driving all over the place to different dealerships before this one showed up. Saw the new ad in autotrader, checked it out that day and owned it shortly after. Beware of lease return Siennas.. every single one I saw was sketchy lol

If you can be patient, you can save and find the right vehicle for you.

[J-Chow]

Keep us updated, as will I. You the same J-Chow from Nasioc?

yup. :troll:

[white rocket]

Showed this thread to the wife since we are strongly considering Highlander Hybrid. Now the Sienna is officially in the mix. The sliding door factor is a pretty strong argument.

Air ride and Volks are still awaiting approval

[Special K]

Seeing how RS evolved from riced out civics to now minivans, we will be asking each other about the best walkers and wheelchairs soon.

[heleu]

Showed this thread to the wife since we are strongly considering Highlander Hybrid. Now the Sienna is officially in the mix. The sliding door factor is a pretty strong argument.

Air ride and Volks are still awaiting approval

I've sat in both the Highlander and Sienna at the Toyota dealership. Same chassis, engine, transmission, etc. It's surprising how much more room the Sienna has inside even though it's pretty much the same size as the Highlander on the outside.

[beatdownvictim]

I drive a odyssey now and man I regret it I miss my x5 a lot

The thing is long and wide, I live in Richmond where parking spots are puny. Even if you park perfectly u are still right at the lines.

I got the touring model and my oldest is 27 months and he sure as hell isn't front facing till at least 3 so really the rear entertainment thing is useless right now.

Siennas look so nice sorta wish I got one instead of the odyssey but hey I got a vacuum in the back!

[Timpo]

I don't know why people are still buying Dodge Caravan/Chrysler Town & Country.
The quality is absolute shit and it doesn't even look good.
IMO Japan dominates minivan market as it is popular category in Japan.
Ford, GM, Hyundai, all back out of minivan market.
Mitsubishi has Delica but it was never available in North America.

http://www.hikariauto.co.jp/shops/item/img/commodity/503122B-066/3.jpg
http://www.roadhouse.co.jp/picture/D526.jpg
http://hikariauto.sakura.ne.jp/data/gallery/45_1372568948.jpg
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hikariauto/imgs/5/8/582701a9.jpg

[Timpo]

Toyota should bring Alphard. Fuck, we have shitty minivans in North America.
??? ?????? | ??????WEB??? (http://toyota.jp/alphard/)

http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/top/carlineup_alphard_top_01_pc.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/top/carlineup_alphard_top_05.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/top/carlineup_alphard_top_09.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/top/carlineup_alphard_top_07.png

here are some OEM options

http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/customize/trd1/carlineup_alphard_customize_trd1_01_pc.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/customize/trd2/carlineup_alphard_customize_trd2_01_pc.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/customize/stylingpackage1/carlineup_alphard_customize_stylingpackage1_01_pc. png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/customize/stylingpackage2/carlineup_alphard_customize_stylingpackage2_01_pc. png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/customize/modellista1/carlineup_alphard_customize_modellista1_01_pc.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/customize/aerotourerkit/carlineup_alphard_customize_aerotourerkit_01_pc.pn g
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/alphard/003_p_001/image/customize/modellista2/carlineup_alphard_customize_modellista2_01_pc.png

[Timpo]

TOYOTA VELLFIRE
??? ??????? | ??????WEB??? (http://toyota.jp/vellfire/?ptopid=hea&padid=ag001_i_carlineup_top)

http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/vellfire/002_p_001/image/top/vellfiretop_pc.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/vellfire/002_p_001/image/top/carlineup_vellfire_top_07.png
http://toyota.jp/pages/contents/vellfire/002_p_001/image/top/carlineup_vellfire_top_08.png

[Mikoyan]

Seeing how RS evolved from riced out civics to now minivans, we will be asking each other about the best walkers and wheelchairs soon.

I think we'd be sharing tips on modding out motorized wheelchairs too.

[Manic!]

I think we'd be sharing tips on modding out motorized wheelchairs too.

400cc sleeper

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=390002904514005

They are adding NOS next.

[Akinari]

Another spammer :facepalm:

[donjalapeno]

jesus christ timpo.

OP needs a minivan to haul the kids and in laws around he obviously doesn't need a lifted delica or ultra luxury limo van.

[Trak3]

http://www.4wd-custom.com/img/upload/zaiko/20100325164202.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/002/893/123/2893123/p2.jpg
http://blog-imgs-29-origin.fc2.com/n/e/k/nekodelica/12422077394a0a95fb20330.jpg

I love seeing these things driving around town, if I had to get a minivan I'd look into these too. They can be the practical vehicle you want and still look badass.

[underscore]

^ only downside is you're loading/unloading kids on the traffic side of the van any time you're parallel parked or stopping on the side of the highway because someone has to pee mid roadtrip for the 8th time but magically never has to go when we're near a town (I swear my brother made every drive to PG take at least an hour longer).

[Trak3]

^ This is true..

[Timpo]

If OP is ever getting a Delica, make sure to get a long body Delica

short body Delica
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Mitsubishi_Delica_Space_Gear_404.JPG

long body Delica
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Mitsubishi_Delica_Space_Gear_406.JPG

[Timpo]

jesus christ timpo.

OP needs a minivan to haul the kids and in laws around he obviously doesn't need a lifted delica or ultra luxury limo van.

Considering OP is on Revscene, I'm sure OP is a car enthusiast just like anyone else here.

If OP is strictly looking for a grocery getter, then I'd suggest getting one of these soccer moms' vans.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/2005-07_Chevrolet_Uplander.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/2011_Dodge_Grand_Caravan_Mainstreet_--_02-17-2011.jpg

Here are good compromise between hauling kids and still being a car enthusiast.
Mitsubishi Delica, Toyota Sienna, Nissan Quest with Elgrand conversion.
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCar/111426/p1.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCar/111426/p3.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/859/508/3859508/p1.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/note/000/002/015/829/2015829/p1.jpg

[Timpo]

Odyssey with Sarona kit

Custom Honda Odyssey Mini Van Body Kit (2011 - 2013) - $1190.00 (Part #HD-052-KT) (http://www.sarona.com/single_product.php?id=3645)
http://airtekk.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/DSC_0094-copy.jpg

[GLOW]

My old neighbor went from a station Wagon to an old delica and seemed to work well for him. He had 1 baby boy and a medium sized dog and camps a lot. Seemed to fit his needs really well.

He said he didn't mind rhd but I'm not sure if I could get used to it

[jcmaz]

One of the better options for old beater vans would be the Mazda MPV. It drives like car, has dual sliding middle doors, and has power windows that slide down for the middle row. Compared to the vans of the same era, only the MPV has that option. The other vans only open outwards.

MPGs aren't that good with the 2.5L or 3.0L v6 engine.

[white rocket]

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/859/508/3859508/p1.jpg

That looks awesome!

[akira112]

2015 sienna SE

I got my SE in 2013, I mean what revscener wouldn't go the the 19s?

Seriously though, the 2015 remedied all the cheap interior issues which I hate about mine.

[CorneringArtist]

It's Jalopnik, but I never really gave the Transit Connect much consideration until I read the review. Looks promising, and I actually prefer it style-wise over the Sienna.

Why You Should Buy A Ford Transit Connect Instead Of A Three-Row SUV (http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/why-you-should-buy-a-ford-transit-connect-instead-of-a-1689041322/+travis)

[bomiheko]

It's Jalopnik, but I never really gave the Transit Connect much consideration until I read the review. Looks promising, and I actually prefer it style-wise over the Sienna.

Why You Should Buy A Ford Transit Connect Instead Of A Three-Row SUV (http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/why-you-should-buy-a-ford-transit-connect-instead-of-a-1689041322/+travis)

I was gonna post the same thing. hahaha, it does look quite nice.

[wickedxj]

Hey guys;

So the wife has now test driven, while I waited the kids, the Sedona, Odyssey and Sienna.

I'm pretty much sold on the Sienna, but the Odyssey does have a few cool features that the Sienna doesn't. An eighth removable seat on the top model, the cool box and the built in vacuum in the back.

I wish the Sienna still had the foot rests from the 2014's on the middle seats, but I like the led drl's on the 2015's... I forgot to check if the sienna has an hdmi in port for the rear dvd...

Anyone here work in sales at a toyota dealership? Or have any referral to one? Feel free to pm me

Any update OP?

on a side note, followed a new nissan quest on the way home yesterday, damn that's ugly from the rear...

[mk1freak]

I have a 14 odyssey touring.. (with vacuum)
Fucking we've only used the dam thing maybe a dozen times....
Kids make the van dirty as fuck. Make sure if you have protectors on back of seats cuz the little fuckers will leave scuff marks.
Had a 2010 gc.. It was a great van used it on a bunch of road trips no issues.... I'm a believer if you don't drive hard the vehicle will last longer. I had no problems with the Dodge.
I looked into the Nissan quest with an elgrand conversion.... Pricey. And the rear on jdm has no bumper. Not legal in Canada :okay:

Drove 12 sienna as well. Dam thing was jerky to drive.. I picked the odyssey because even with the automatic stigma it drove the smoothest. Though I would've just picked and ex with entertainment.... Wife fell for the vacuum gimmick

[Timpo]

I have a 14 odyssey touring.. (with vacuum)
Fucking we've only used the dam thing maybe a dozen times....
Kids make the van dirty as fuck. Make sure if you have protectors on back of seats cuz the little fuckers will leave scuff marks.
Had a 2010 gc.. It was a great van used it on a bunch of road trips no issues.... I'm a believer if you don't drive hard the vehicle will last longer. I had no problems with the Dodge.
I looked into the Nissan quest with an elgrand conversion.... Pricey. And the rear on jdm has no bumper. Not legal in Canada :okay:

Drove 12 sienna as well. Dam thing was jerky to drive.. I picked the odyssey because even with the automatic stigma it drove the smoothest. Though I would've just picked and ex with entertainment.... Wife fell for the vacuum gimmickCouldn't you leave the rear bumper on?
Visually, you can just leave it on without any issue...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Nissan_ELGRAND_NISMO_Performance_Package_A_kit_(E5 2)_rear.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/2012_Nissan_Quest_SV_rear.jpg

[Timpo]

^ never mind, I just realized that Elgrand has rear backup light on the side

[underscore]

^ 4Runner is the top of my list when kids come along as well. According to Wikipedia:

The April 2007 Insurance Institute for Highway Safety report also shows the 4Runner to have one of the lowest death rates for all vehicles on the road at only 13 deaths per million registered vehicle years during calendar years 2002–2005. Only the Infiniti G35 and BMW 7 series had lower rates.

[mk1freak]

I was in the same boat we have an Isuzu rodeo (still) but when you factor in going out and bringing people like grandparents or relatives for extra help especially on day trips etc.
A van is more comfortable. Especially if you make the wife sit between the two kids in the back she'll change her tune soon enough.
Out of necessity we got a van anyways because the amount of shit the wife packs for the kids is like a Frikken weekend trip... Everytime :fulloffuck:

[white rocket]

^ 4Runner is the top of my list when kids come along as well. According to Wikipedia:

Another reason to feel good about buying my T4R :thumbsup:

[CharlieH]

Our family has gone through many cars but the only one we've ever kept long term is our 2004 Sienna. It's the one car that we treat like absolute shit but has never even had a single hiccup. Reliable, comfy and spacious as hell.

[punkwax]

My wife kind of balked at the thought of a minivan until she test drove the Sienna. She loves it, and TBH, so do I. :okay: :lol

[Alby]

anyone have thoughts or experience on the 4runner with the third row seat? hows the sitting space in the third row? any more trunk space for a stroller (eg, stand the stroller up or put it up on the side)

[Klondike]

http://i.imgur.com/mLHiP3k.jpg

Ford Transit Connect

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--KzJL5sUi--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/jrm8ibempotqimdjnx0u.png

Why You Should Buy A Ford Transit Connect Instead Of A Three-Row SUV (http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/why-you-should-buy-a-ford-transit-connect-instead-of-a-1689041322)

[BrownBear]

Get a sienna. They are amazing, and you can make em look good. We installed airbags on one at work a while back.

[mk1freak]

Oh the one thing that bugged me on the odyssey, 5x120... This coming from a guy with sets of rims in 5x114.3 :okay:

[fliptuner]

Oh the one thing that bugged me on the odyssey, 5x120... This coming from a guy with sets of rims in 5x114.3 :okay:

weak.

Get some adapters already.

[Poknat]

Get the Sienna and let's ride in style

Check out vankulture

Pics of my Sienna below for motivation!lol

[Poknat]

Get a sienna. They are amazing, and you can make em look good. We installed airbags on one at work a while back.



What shop? I'm planning to bag my Sienna hopefully early next year!

[CorneringArtist]

Oh the one thing that bugged me on the odyssey, 5x120... This coming from a guy with sets of rims in 5x114.3 :okay:

Time to put BMW Style 65's on.

[Roach]

I had a 2014 Odyssey Touring as a demo for 6 months last year. It is great for hauling people around. Tons of space both in the passenger cabin and rear trunk area. Didn't use the vacuum much at all (I don't have kids though).

It drove nicely. Good power and the transmission was smooth. I found the cylinder deactivation feature on the Touring model was a bit jerky. Something I could see causing problems in the future. Also, the infotainment system was a little bit of a nuisance with the dual screen set-up. The UI was slow and some things really didn't make sense in terms of how the screens are split.

Lastly, make sure you are ok with the size. The Sienna and Odyssey are not only extremely long but also very wide. There is little margin for error when parking them.

Personally, I'd go for the Mazda 5. It's a far more manageable size. It's crazy how MPV's and 1st gen Odysseys were perfectly adequate family vans back in the day. It's like baby stores guilt people into hauling more shit around.

Kev

[mk1freak]

Those are definitely on the list along with 95s

[J-Chow]

So after reading this thread, and going to the automall,

I'm leaning towards a 2015 Sienna SE w/ tech pack. It actually looks the most sportiest and decent out of all minivans, as much as I don't enjoy driving minivans.

Still comparing it with the Odyssey, but I don't like the exterior of it.
The Sedona I haven't seen in person yet, so I have to make a trip to Richmond Kia.

Ford didn't have the transit connect in stock yet, but I"m assuming it's similar in size to the Mazda5.

What am I expecting in terms of fuel economy on these ppl movers? $100 per fill up?

[Akinari]

The Transit Connect is quite a big larger and taller than then Mazda 5, at least in appearance from what I've seen.

[Edison_Chen]

I think the 2015 version of the Toyota Sienna with SE tech package, seems like a great value overall. I had 12 XLE FWD, and I paid around $40,000 before freight/taxes. On a 2015, for just a bit more, you get a few more options (Navi, Push start, Blue-ray, Blind spot monitor and rear cross traffic).

[wickedxj]

I think the 2015 version of the Toyota Sienna with SE tech package, seems like a great value overall. I had 12 XLE FWD, and I paid around $40,000 before freight/taxes. On a 2015, for just a bit more, you get a few more options (Navi, Push start, Blue-ray, Blind spot monitor and rear cross traffic).

Yes, we were considering an SE with tech package as well, get the navi, rear dvd, push button, 8th seat and led drl's, but no hid's or awd. I actually find the grill of the SE more attractive than the limited.

My wife and I have both test driven the odyssey and sienna. Can't compare an xle limited interior to an odyssey touring interior, Sienna is so much nicer. We are both in agreement on the Sienna, she's happy with an SE, I want awd. Seems there are two blizzard pearl awd's at dealers in the lower mainland right now too.

Early April we will get serious and wind up getting one...

[JAYWALKER]

As a service advisor at Canadian Tire... We obviously bring in all cars. Do not get a domestic van! Sienna and Odyssey is the way to go but remember to do your service on time.

The amount of money we make on Caravans repairs and diagnostics... LOL literally facepalm...

[ironheader]

Was at Pick n Pull the other day, someone had a lowered Caravan with fake hood scoops on it and tinted tail lights.

[Expresso]

Was at Pick n Pull the other day, someone had a lowered Caravan with fake hood scoops on it and tinted tail lights.

Was there any signs of saw dust near the transmission?!

[JAYWALKER]

One other note. Becareful with some of these Siennas, some of them are AWD and does not have spare and must use Run-Flat Tires. Just a piece of mind

[blee123]

if anyone is looking for a mini-van, feel free to inbox me as I have a few friends working in Toyota and Honda dealerships who can hook you up with a revscene deal !

[asian_XL]

I am placing order on this when it comes to Asia later this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6zWVMV6hqo
https://youtu.be/HzyWVy2N8cE?t=1m20s

[Berzerker]

I have a Dodge Grand Caravan, never had any problems.... yet. We did purchase it from a dealer used and the dealer did do a bunch of stuff before we bought it. New bearings in the front, turned rotors (I noticed I worble noise and slight feel of shudder) this is where being a car person pays off because I would have had to pay for that afterwards had I not noticed it. My model has all remote opening doors and I must say that is a fantastic feature. Helps get the kids in and out and generally makes life so much easier! Mine is an 04 so no DVD option but other than that it's got everything I could ask for. Trying to convince the wife to let me put some 18"s on it. I'm still a car guy after all..

Berz out.

[SuperChomely]

What about the ford flex? It's more of a stationwagoney feel plus the turbocharger 6 cylinder is pretty quick.

[Mancini]

I like to take my family haulers on light off road. So many of the vehicles in this thread are useless.

[Alby]

I like to take my family haulers on light off road. So many of the vehicles in this thread are useless.

its because they are minivans, as the thread was created for. not sure what you were expecting, a minivan to go off road?

[heleu]

I like to take my family haulers on light off road. So many of the vehicles in this thread are useless.

Unless you live in the forest, I bet 99.9% of the time, you don't go off road or could do your trail with a minivan.

[wickedxj]

Just realized the Sienna XLE awd has it's towing capacity reduced from 3500lbs to 1000lbs. Thought it may have been due to the runflat tires, but the LE awd has the same tires but retains the 3500lbs.

Once we get the minivan, I am going to try and get rid of the suv, still need a vehicle to tow the utility trailer, what am I missing here?

[underscore]

Brake size or suspension stiffness maybe? I assume the chassis is the same.

[mk1freak]

Just realized the Sienna XLE awd has it's towing capacity reduced from 3500lbs to 1000lbs. Thought it may have been due to the runflat tires, but the LE awd has the same tires but retains the 3500lbs.

Once we get the minivan, I am going to try and get rid of the suv, still need a vehicle to tow the utility trailer, what am I missing here?

one of the things i researched as well when i was looking at vans:

Why is the towing capacity of the 2015 Sienna XLE AWD down to 1500 LBS ??? (http://www.siennachat.com/forum/69-towing-hauling/184521-why-towing-capacity-2015-sienna-xle-awd-down-1500-lbs.html)

[blee123]

if any members here need a hook up on a sienna or odyssey (new or pre-owned), inbox me as I have good friends working in both Toyota and Honda stores :thumbs:

[twitchyzero]

if anyone is looking for a mini-van, feel free to inbox me as I have a few friends working in Toyota and Honda dealerships who can hook you up with a revscene deal !

if any members here need a hook up on a sienna or odyssey (new or pre-owned), inbox me as I have good friends working in both Toyota and Honda stores :thumbs:

:suspicious::spamarama:

I like to take my family haulers on light off road. So many of the vehicles in this thread are useless.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/6c/6c8b9a631c117d7d87be76d2eb65c0014662142a8b3a9107cf 2f195a70c5e3e0.jpg

[J-Chow]

Just a little update,

I've posted a deposit for a 2015 Toyota Sienna SE w/ Tech package. Arriving next month!

Trading in my 2014 cx-5, gave me top dollar for it, so couldn't ask for any additional offers on that. Salesman was nice guy, tried to get some extras for me, since the sienna comes with practically everything already.

[Poknat]

Good choice! I have 2013 sienna and I love it!

[wickedxj]

Just a little update,

I've posted a deposit for a 2015 Toyota Sienna SE w/ Tech package. Arriving next month!

Trading in my 2014 cx-5, gave me top dollar for it, so couldn't ask for any additional offers on that. Salesman was nice guy, tried to get some extras for me, since the sienna comes with practically everything already.

What colour? Would be interested to hear what you paid... And what your plans are with it...

We picked this up on the weekend.. SE with tech, wife already scuffed underside of bumper

List of immediate plans in no particular order
LED's interior and license plate
trailer hitch (mostly just for bike rack)
HID's- last few vehicles have had factory hid's or I have retrofitted complete assemblies- usually curse people who do it- but if you can't beat 'em, join 'em I guess
Cargo net

http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt165/wickedxj/20150419_133355_zpsu4ye55io.jpg (http://s608.photobucket.com/user/wickedxj/media/20150419_133355_zpsu4ye55io.jpg.html)

[J-Chow]

^ hahah dude.I ordered the same color!!

I "might" paint the wheels, or leave em stock for the time being.
Planning to change to LED interior lights and license plate lights, install HIDs.

He wouldn't budge under MSRP, so it was merely the savings on the trade in of the car (my vehicle trade in on black book was $24,300, GM said $23500, and sales guy brought it up to $24,200, and extra accessories and extra oil changes).

[wickedxj]

^ hahah dude.I ordered the same color!!

I "might" paint the wheels, or leave em stock for the time being.
Planning to change to LED interior lights and license plate lights, install HIDs.

He wouldn't budge under MSRP, so it was merely the savings on the trade in of the car (my vehicle trade in on black book was $24,300, GM said $23500, and sales guy brought it up to $24,200, and extra accessories and extra oil changes).

That's funny, I'll keep you posted how it goes, got a bunch of ebay 914 led's I will start asap. You have to remove the rear hatch inner panel to get at the license plate ones though...

Spend some time on siennachat...

[Alby]

^ hahah dude.I ordered the same color!!

I "might" paint the wheels, or leave em stock for the time being.
Planning to change to LED interior lights and license plate lights, install HIDs.

He wouldn't budge under MSRP, so it was merely the savings on the trade in of the car (my vehicle trade in on black book was $24,300, GM said $23500, and sales guy brought it up to $24,200, and extra accessories and extra oil changes).

what kind of extra accessories did they give you? im planning on getting one either this year or the next. plans are

-20" rims
-bagged with accuair management
-jdm lip/splitter
-puddle lights

[Poknat]

Here is my van! Lowered on Megan's

[Alby]

what's your wheel setup like?

[Poknat]

20x10.5 25 on 2454520 tires check out VANkulture

[Alby]

any problems with rubbing? did you do any fender or wheel well work to make that setup clear of problems?

[SoNaRWaVe]

these pics look tempting to get a minivan. sienna seems like a good choice by far. prolly will get one sooner than later....sigh....

[Poknat]

Rub a little bit on the front on the tabs when full turn , slight rub not rubbing, tires doesn't hit the fenders on bumps. No fender work, no pull or roll! I think my fronts are in the lowest setting while the back still has 1 finger gap

[Poknat]

My friends Nissan Quest / Nissan elgrand conversion

[originalhypa]

Those are some killer people haulers!
I hate my 2011 Odyssey. The wife has scuffed it up, and it drives like a big civic. Thankfully we're out of the van phase and can justify a nice SUV or big wagon. I'd take a turbo Forester over my Odyssey anyday.

But it's funny to see so many people I considered "young" members in the same situation I was a decade ago when I bought my first Odyssey.
:lol

[Liquid_o2]

That Quest looks huge compared to the Sienna.

[Poknat]

Those are some killer people haulers!
I hate my 2011 Odyssey. The wife has scuffed it up, and it drives like a big civic. Thankfully we're out of the van phase and can justify a nice SUV or big wagon. I'd take a turbo Forester over my Odyssey anyday.

But it's funny to see so many people I considered "young" members in the same situation I was a decade ago when I bought my first Odyssey.
:lolcc

I never considered an suv,my brother has a Honda Pilot and I find them lacking of room and cargo room
and I have 1 toddler and a baby
I carry a double stroller
plus groceries and in laws lol


Quest is bigger given to its boxy shape I think

[wickedxj]

cc

I never considered an suv,my brother has a Honda Pilot and I find them lacking of room and cargo room
and I have 1 toddler and a baby
I carry a double stroller
plus groceries and in laws lol


Quest is bigger given to its boxy shape I think

Same here, double stroller with a 6 month and a 22 month old, diaper bags, food, etc... If we ever made a shopping trip in my Jeep it was already 3/4 full before we left

Ordered a 4300k HID kit with Phillips bulbs from Xenondepot
Ordered the hitch with wiring harness specific to SE
Swapped in a few LED's last night... more to go...
http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt165/wickedxj/20150422_202929_zpsrpi2fwdk.jpg (http://s608.photobucket.com/user/wickedxj/media/20150422_202929_zpsrpi2fwdk.jpg.html)

[underscore]

Won't those LED interior lights wake up your kids more easily though?

[RE-Jo]

There should be a minivan section in the next Revscene meet.




.... and maybe a jumping castle

[originalhypa]

.... and maybe a jumping castle


:lol

When my kids were younger, a lot of their stuff was soft and pliable, and needed to be stored in the vehicle. Now their stuff is big and heavy, and made to be used outside. So my truck is still the go-to for road trips, etc. But every once in a while the wife talks me into taking the van like 2 weeks ago to Kelowna. The kids were comfortable, and I averaged just under 11L/100km.

that's a win.

[wickedxj]

Won't those LED interior lights wake up your kids more easily though?

Good point, but had the same lights in the Jeep for quite a while and we're rarely out at night with the kids though. Would only be a problem if got home late and tried to not let wake while getting them inside. Doubt the wife will even notice, told her I was working on Jeep last night...

[Gucci Mane]

what kind of extra accessories did they give you? im planning on getting one either this year or the next. plans are

these pics look tempting to get a minivan. sienna seems like a good choice by far. prolly will get one sooner than later....sigh....

hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha.


get the 4runner you fucks, or even a used sequoia. them things is naice.


but sienna's are reliable as fuck. parents bought ours new in 01. thing is still going strong at 302k km with all original engine components. no lie. all we've ever done to it is basic maintenance and changed the battery out a couple of times. i think the starter is finally starting to shit itself though..

oh i almost forgot, our keys are worn down quite a bit. so now when its started and running you can just pop the key out of the ignition, just like them good ol chevy's. lol

[J-Chow]

So lil' update.

I installed rain guards and yellow tint to the fog lights, and ordered some interior LED lights, and installed 4300k HID kit.

Now, I'm looking to replace the fog light bulbs, but need some insight.

I don't want blinding fogs, so I'm not opting for HID fogs.

I've done some researching and found the following fog light bulbs for sale:

Nokya hyper yellow
Hella Optilux yellow
Hoen endurance yellow
Piaa Ion Crystal yellow (Crazy expensive)

Just wanted to know if you guys had any experience on any of the above, and which ones are closest to 2500k.

thanks!

[TOPEC]

HIDs in fogs arent blinding, had them in my sti before, and seen many ppl running HID fogs, never did i noticed them blinding. they're aimed relatively low and the beam pattern is so spread out so it shouldnt blind as much as HID in reflector low beams

[Akinari]

I'm running the Nokya Hyper Yellows in my fogs as DRLs so they are pretty much on all the time. For bulbs that are supposed to burn out pretty quickly, my passenger fog bulb is still burning bright after 2 years, my driver's fog bulb burnt out last month, so pretty long-lasting for a cheap $20 tinted bulb that's actually pretty bright!

[kuri]

Ordered a 4300k HID kit with Phillips bulbs from Xenondepot[/URL]

I installed rain guards and yellow tint to the fog lights, and ordered some interior LED lights, and installed 4300k HID kit.I didn't realize there's a minivan thread on RS! I have a 2013 Sienna (AWD XLE model), and am purchasing a 4300k HID kit from XenonDepot too. Did you guys use the relay harnesses for the install, or is that not necessary for our car?

For the yellow bulbs, I used the Hella Optilux Yellow H11s on my last car for over a year and there were no issues to the moment it was sold. I haven't tried the other ones you listed though so I can't comment on how "yellow" they are compare to one another.

[flagella]

I'm also on the boat of possibly getting a mini van. Can anyone chime in as to what are the pros and cons of having an 8-seater mini van vs. full-sized SUV (i.e. Honda Pilot)?

[punkwax]

I run the Hella Opti's too. Good bulb.

[604Sparda]

Doesn't 2015 Sienna SE Tech pkg comes with stock HIDS?
If not, my sales lied to me. :(

[Edison_Chen]

Doesn't 2015 Sienna SE Tech pkg comes with stock HIDS?
If not, my sales lied to me. :(

They only come with LED drl's. They are projector style headlight, but not OEM HID.

[604Sparda]

Prob getting a 15 Sienna SE with tech pkg next month.

What are some of the things you guys asked for and gotten since the price is so stiff and tech pkg has everything already?
extended warranty?
winter tires?

[donjalapeno]

^ why would you need extended warranty on a Toyota....

I got regular warranty for my pre owned Acura and I regret it every single day. Japanese cars are just to reliable for warranty. Factory warranty thats included in the price will suffice.

You don't really need winter tires either, just a good set of all-weather or all-seasons will do. Unless your horrible at driving.

[604Sparda]

^ why would you need extended warranty on a Toyota....

I got regular warranty for my pre owned Acura and I regret it every single day. Japanese cars are just to reliable for warranty. Factory warranty thats included in the price will suffice.

You don't really need winter tires either, just a good set of all-weather or all-seasons will do. Unless your horrible at driving.

So you got a Jap car without extended warranty but you regret it and asking me why I might be getting extended warranty?

You dont know where or when I am taking my car so why would you assume I dont need winters? Besides, winter tires does not mean horrible drivers, its a safety issue.

Anyways, these are just 2 examples i listed for my original question which was what other ppl got instead of discounts?

TIA

[punkwax]

Don't think you'll get those kinda freebies. Some sales people might offer a "gift" which is a portion of their commission, ie $200. Most common freebie is all weather mats.

[604Sparda]

^ i see ,
Thanks

[donjalapeno]

Prob getting a 15 Sienna SE with tech pkg next month.

What are some of the things you guys asked for and gotten since the price is so stiff and tech pkg has everything already?
extended warranty?
winter tires?

Those look like question marks to me. Since you asked naive and indecisive questions I decided to answer the questions and help you. The way you asked the question seemed like you wanted to purchase those items since the "SE with tech has everything". I didn't think you actually wanted to ask the dealership to get those things for free. Thats even more stupid.


So you got a Jap car without extended warranty but you regret it and asking me why I might be getting extended warranty?

You dont know where or when I am taking my car so why would you assume I dont need winters? Besides, winter tires does not mean horrible drivers, its a safety issue.

Anyways, these are just 2 examples i listed for my original question which was what other ppl got instead of discounts?

TIA

I got REGULAR warranty for my car which is 3 years or 110000KM not extended. Extended warranty would have been something like 5 years. Nowhere in your question did you mention where or "when" you will be driving the car so I assumed it's going to be your DD around town. If you are a good driver you can manage around town in winter with All-season or All-weather tires. Every one of your fucking posts is a question so it gets a little confusing.

Way to bark at someone for trying to help you out. FailFish

[blee123]

Prob getting a 15 Sienna SE with tech pkg next month.

What are some of the things you guys asked for and gotten since the price is so stiff and tech pkg has everything already?
extended warranty?
winter tires?

pm'd you, check your inbox !

[J-Chow]

I didn't realize there's a minivan thread on RS! I have a 2013 Sienna (AWD XLE model), and am purchasing a 4300k HID kit from XenonDepot too. Did you guys use the relay harnesses for the install, or is that not necessary for our car?

For the yellow bulbs, I used the Hella Optilux Yellow H11s on my last car for over a year and there were no issues to the moment it was sold. I haven't tried the other ones you listed though so I can't comment on how "yellow" they are compare to one another.

I purchased my 4300 kit from Autolismo (local) for a good price. I think it was $70-80 depending on the length of warranty you go for. I used the harness that came with the HID kit, simple plug and play and your ready to roll.

I may actually purchase a second kit for the fog lights.

I'm also on the boat of possibly getting a mini van. Can anyone chime in as to what are the pros and cons of having an 8-seater mini van vs. full-sized SUV (i.e. Honda Pilot)?

Pros: For the love of god, SLIDING DOORS. Especially when you have infant/car seats and you got tight parking. Won't have to give a flying fuck about swinging that door around, cause it's sliding wooot.

Rear seats have WAY more space than 8 seater SUV AND you have actual trunk space. (Depending on make and model)

Cons: It's a mini van. It won't be as "cool" as a SUV, and the handling won't be as sharp as a SUV (Depending on some make and models)

Prob getting a 15 Sienna SE with tech pkg next month.

What are some of the things you guys asked for and gotten since the price is so stiff and tech pkg has everything already?
extended warranty?
winter tires?

I asked for extra oil changes and rear mat for the trunk, and I got top dollar for my trade in, in relation to the black book value. There's not much you can ask for since it does have everything. You can talk them down on the MSRP, and throw in some minor accessories.

Depending where you live, if lower mainland, then no for winter tires.
I bought extended warranty for 7 years (which was the length of my financing). Includes everything from yearly oil changes to whatever the fuck breaks down (and hopefully nothing does, but just in case), since this is a long term vehicle that I would keep until the kids are grown up. :rukidding:

[underscore]

Pros: For the love of god, SLIDING DOORS. Especially when you have infant/car seats and you got tight parking. Won't have to give a flying fuck about swinging that door around, cause it's sliding wooot.

I'm way behind on the tech so I'm not sure if this is standard now, but powered sliding doors that open/close at the push of a button and can do so by remote are awesome.

[wickedxj]

So lil' update.

I installed rain guards and yellow tint to the fog lights, and ordered some interior LED lights, and installed 4300k HID kit.

Now, I'm looking to replace the fog light bulbs, but need some insight.

I don't want blinding fogs, so I'm not opting for HID fogs.

I've done some researching and found the following fog light bulbs for sale:

Nokya hyper yellow
Hella Optilux yellow
Hoen endurance yellow
Piaa Ion Crystal yellow (Crazy expensive)

Just wanted to know if you guys had any experience on any of the above, and which ones are closest to 2500k.

thanks!

Damn, you're ahead of me already, finally installed my 4300's this afternoon. Had some other projects on the Jeep to do first

I didn't realize there's a minivan thread on RS! I have a 2013 Sienna (AWD XLE model), and am purchasing a 4300k HID kit from XenonDepot too. Did you guys use the relay harnesses for the install, or is that not necessary for our car?

For the yellow bulbs, I used the Hella Optilux Yellow H11s on my last car for over a year and there were no issues to the moment it was sold. I haven't tried the other ones you listed though so I can't comment on how "yellow" they are compare to one another.

The Xenon Depot kit, like others I imagine are all plug and play

I'm also on the boat of possibly getting a mini van. Can anyone chime in as to what are the pros and cons of having an 8-seater mini van vs. full-sized SUV (i.e. Honda Pilot)?

Our other vehicle is a newer Grand Cherokee. Van has more room, we actually made a road trip to Seattle a few weekends ago and I had room to sit in the back and watch dvd's with the kids. Of course sliding doors are the best in parking spots

Prob getting a 15 Sienna SE with tech pkg next month.

What are some of the things you guys asked for and gotten since the price is so stiff and tech pkg has everything already?
extended warranty?
winter tires?

We actually got almost 1k off the price we were quoted, which was pennies off the toyota.ca price

[Edison_Chen]

^ why would you need extended warranty on a Toyota....

I got regular warranty for my pre owned Acura and I regret it every single day. Japanese cars are just to reliable for warranty. Factory warranty thats included in the price will suffice.

You don't really need winter tires either, just a good set of all-weather or all-seasons will do. Unless your horrible at driving.

I bought the extended warranty back in Nov11 for my 2012 XLE FWD. So far (knock on wood), I haven't used it yet, except for the 4x free oil change. What I've been told was that the extended warranty (old plan) I purchased at the time, did not cover power sliding doors/trunk. I haven't verified with the service department yet. Paid around $1200 for an extra 2 years for "bumper to bumper".

The Sienna has been parked outside for the last 2.5 years, and the sliding doors and trunk always worked every time, so far so good. If i'd do it again, I probably would of passed on the ECP.

[604Sparda]

Finally took delivery on a SE with Tech Pack. So far everythings great except one thing.
The anchor piece for the 8th seat in the middle of the 2nd row is not removable and it really limits movement.

[Alby]

yea was looking at that in the showroom and was wondering how to remove that piece and a guy said you can't. that was a downer moment otherwise the car would have been perfect.

[tru_blue]

Finally took delivery on a SE with Tech Pack. So far everythings great except one thing.
The anchor piece for the 8th seat in the middle of the 2nd row is not removable and it really limits movement.

where and which salesperson did you purchase it off from?

[punkwax]

I have 2 captains chairs for my middle row. If you don't need 8 seats, swap em out. They're recliners! :hat:
http://www.precisionfit.com/images/1115ToyotaSienna7PassengerXLELimitedCaptainsChairs MiddleAdjustableLegrest.image.jpeg?size=400&width=400&mid=c589c3a8f99401b24b9380e86d939842

[604Sparda]

I have 2 captains chairs for my middle row. If you don't need 8 seats, swap em out. They're recliners! :hat:
http://www.precisionfit.com/images/1115ToyotaSienna7PassengerXLELimitedCaptainsChairs MiddleAdjustableLegrest.image.jpeg?size=400&width=400&mid=c589c3a8f99401b24b9380e86d939842

I dont really need those, because i am mouthing infant car seat on 2nd row.
Yeah i am still thinking abt getting a XLE seat to free up the middle.

[604Sparda]

where and which salesperson did you purchase it off from?

Pm'ed
Let me know if you need his contacts

[SpeedStars]

Finally took delivery on a SE with Tech Pack. So far everythings great except one thing.
The anchor piece for the 8th seat in the middle of the 2nd row is not removable and it really limits movement.

Is that 8th seat being not removable exclusive to the SE? The 8pass XLE we have at work is totally removable but it just leaves a small plastic base when you remove it

[604Sparda]

Is that 8th seat being not removable exclusive to the SE? The 8pass XLE we have at work is totally removable but it just leaves a small plastic base when you remove it

Its removeable on SE as well.the plastic piece is inconvenient. XLE has optional 7 seats; leather seat without the plastic piece.

[J-Chow]

The 8th seat is removable in the second row, but like others have said, it leaves a plastic base / anchor on the floor. I believe if you really need to remove those, there are bolts on the underside of the vehicle that attaches to them. Check out Sienna Chat forums to confirm that though.

[punkwax]

I dont really need those, because i am mouthing infant car seat on 2nd row.
Yeah i am still thinking abt getting a XLE seat to free up the middle.

Not sure what you're getting at.. I have an infant seat in the middle row on one of the captain's chairs.

[Alby]

Not sure what you're getting at.. I have an infant seat in the middle row on one of the captain's chairs.

i think the point is that the captain chair is wasted if you are putting an infant seat on them, and not actually let anyone enjoy it.

[Alby]

sorry for the little bump, but i'm about ready to pull the trigger on the sienna SE w/ tech. maybe within the next two months. ready to go car shopping and start dealing with sales rep. PM me contacts and where they are located please. thanks in advance!

[fliptuner]

Needs 20's and bags

[Alby]

Needs 20's and bags

it's in the plans

[blee123]

sorry for the little bump, but i'm about ready to pull the trigger on the sienna SE w/ tech. maybe within the next two months. ready to go car shopping and start dealing with sales rep. PM me contacts and where they are located please. thanks in advance!

pm'd

[hk20000]

You know, this came to me recently:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-loeSA_jp9r8/VFvgTuqHukI/AAAAAAAAWLo/nluITFpm4QY/s1600/Mercedes-Hartman-V-Class-100.jpg

I found out these start at under 40 Canadian.... Why not?
Passenger van starts at 37900 (http://www.mercedes-benz-vans.ca/en/metris/passenger-van)

[Akinari]

^Because they're absolutely ginormous? Saw one the other day, it's essentially a lower Sprinter.

[supafamous]

^Because they're absolutely ginormous? Saw one the other day, it's essentially a lower Sprinter.

It's 202in long, 75 inches tall and 88 inches wide if you include the side mirrors (figure only 74in otherwise) so it's pretty similar to regular minivans other than height. For example, an Odyssey is 203in long and 79in wide.

Slight tangent: Wife wants an older beater type van (budget $5K) as a second car. Fullsize minivans are a no - they're too big so I've got the Mazda MPV on the list and would consider the regular size Venture/Montana, the early 2000's Sienna. Anything else that I should be considering?

[blackGS?]

1st gen Mazda 5?
Sliding doors
Six seater
4 cyl 2.5L might be underpowered but should be ok for around town
Little to no trunk space tho if 3rd row is up

[Gucci Mane]

It's 202in long, 75 inches tall and 88 inches wide if you include the side mirrors (figure only 74in otherwise) so it's pretty similar to regular minivans other than height. For example, an Odyssey is 203in long and 79in wide.

Slight tangent: Wife wants an older beater type van (budget $5K) as a second car. Fullsize minivans are a no - they're too big so I've got the Mazda MPV on the list and would consider the regular size Venture/Montana, the early 2000's Sienna. Anything else that I should be considering?

i wouldn't consider anything other than the sienna tbh. my parents bought theirs new in 2001 and its still running strong with 320k km on the clock. only ever done basic maintenance on it.

[punkwax]

Odysseys will run forever too in all likelihood.

Dig my wife's '13 Sienna though. Waiting to test the AWD if it snows :ilied:

[Gucci Mane]

Odysseys will run forever too in all likelihood.

Dig my wife's '13 Sienna though. Waiting to test the AWD if it snows :ilied:

not from the model years supafamous would be looking for. they have that shitty 5spd auto trans thats caused honda a lot of grief.

[fliptuner]

Aside from first gen Odysseys, they use the same V6/auto combo's as the Accords. Just a heads up.

[punkwax]

Makes sense.. good info.

Buy a Sienna :lol

[jcmaz]

2000+ MPV have 2nd row power windows as well while similar vintage minivans have those pop out windows. We had a 2000 MPV in the family with the 2.5L V6 engine and 4sp auto tranny. It's a pig on gas since we got roughly 7.5km/L. However, it drives like a car and the Yamaha built engine loves to rev. The auto tranny shifts rough though.

The 2nd row captain chairs were so comfy and the third row *could* fit smaller people as well. Overall it's a good beater van that can hold a lot stuff/cargo while keeping passengers relatively comfortable.

Fun fact, certain parts from the Ford Contour SVT engine act as an upgrade!

[Gucci Mane]

^ if i remember correctly, the base model versions of the mpv didnt come with ABS. lol. :heckno:

[supafamous]

2000+ MPV have 2nd row power windows as well while similar vintage minivans have those pop out windows. We had a 2000 MPV in the family with the 2.5L V6 engine and 4sp auto tranny. It's a pig on gas since we got roughly 7.5km/L. However, it drives like a car and the Yamaha built engine loves to rev. The auto tranny shifts rough though.

The 2nd row captain chairs were so comfy and the third row *could* fit smaller people as well. Overall it's a good beater van that can hold a lot stuff/cargo while keeping passengers relatively comfortable.

Fun fact, certain parts from the Ford Contour SVT engine act as an upgrade!

Thanks, drove two MPVs with the 3.0L V6. Drove pretty solid for a 12-13 year old van but both had issues (CEL for one, A/C dead for the other). Very few clean, working MPVs out there so a Sienna might have to be it if I want a reliable one.

[white rocket]

I have this thread to thank for swaying our(wife and I) decision to get a minivan instead of an SUV. Now that I'm all about that minivan lifestyle I can safely say that it was a fantastic move for us. There are a few minor issues(annoying design features) with the Odyssey but all in all it's great. The Odyssey drove better than the Sienna and that was the swing vote for the wife. Looking forward to road trips this summer.

Carry on.

[white rocket]

Double Post annoyingness

[punkwax]

There was a time when minivans sucked.. there was nothing worse. Those days are over!

[StanleyR]

There was a time when minivans sucked.. they still do, but so many drive them so it makes it sorta ok now

ftfy

[M Speed]

Sienna SE Tech really has everything one will need for a minivan! I really wish Toyota would make a hybrid for sienna. Thry did it for the highlander so it is doable.

Until then I am sticking to my 2006 odyssey touring.

[CorollaXRS]

Get a brand new Sienna. It's a Toyota and will run forever with proper maintenance.

[thumper]

https://youtu.be/odt8jX7SW3Y

[meme405]

There was a time when minivans sucked.. there was nothing worse. Those days are over!

Or maybe you have just gotten older...

[IMASA]

There was a time when minivans sucked.. there was nothing worse. Those days are over!

Those were the days when your only choices were:
Chrylser/Dodge Caravan
Plymoth Voyager
Ford Aerostar/Windstar

[thumper]

Those were the days when your only choices were:
Chrylser/Dodge Caravan
Plymoth Voyager
Ford Aerostar/Windstar

do not forget the toyota van...

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g67/Tsukkie/SuprasonVan.jpg

... and the chevy astro van:

http://cloudlakes.com/data_images/models/chevrolet-astro-van/chevrolet-astro-van-10.jpg

so many exciting choices back in the day... how did we survive! :D

[supafamous]

https://youtu.be/odt8jX7SW3Y

New Chrysler van looks dope. Managed to make it look low to the ground, gave it a nice stance. The Hybrid sounds fascinating - wished it was electric AWD though, that would be a killer feature (imagine a 200hp electric motor in the future).

[J-Chow]

https://youtu.be/odt8jX7SW3Y

You had me at Hybrid Van.

Shut up and take my Sienna and money. :tears:

[thumper]

You had me at Hybrid Van.

Shut up and take my Sienna and money. :tears:


i would hold back on the heavy breathing until there is some reliability scores for this new model... chrysler hasn't exactly been on top of the charts for being reliable these days.

[originalhypa]

New Chrysler van looks dope. Managed to make it look low to the ground, gave it a nice stance. The Hybrid sounds fascinating - wished it was electric AWD though, that would be a killer feature (imagine a 200hp electric motor in the future).

I like the idea of the hybrid, awd, and electric motors.
But Chrysler? Really? Every Chrysler product I've ever had has been a dog, breaking in the most inconvenient way. Exhaust manifolds cracking, electrical issues, suspension parts wearing at a rapid rate, and poor overall quality of parts.

Domestic vehicles are great if you're going to lease them for 2 years and give it back when the lease ends. If you're going to keep your van for a few more years, go Sienna or Odyssey.

Even my Odyssey has had some issues. Bad batteries, and a leaking oil pan.

You know what? Fuck Honda. Buy the Sienna, and never look back.
:drunk:

[whitev70r]

https://youtu.be/odt8jX7SW3Y

Nice product specialist in the next booth!

[TouringTeg]

Now is your chance Thumper! 140kms and comes with a 2nd parts van

Toyota LE Van Victoria City, Victoria (http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Toyota-LE-Van_26659033)

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usedphotosna/50944849_934.jpg

[thumper]

love it or hate it, i wish our minivans were as cool as some are overseas...

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/VerdeIthaca/HK_Diecast_16-1_zpsz16u0n13.jpg

[thumper]

huh. honda hybrid odyessy?

Honda Hybrid Minivan On Sale In Japan, Using Accord Hybrid System (http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102208_honda-hybrid-minivan-on-sale-in-japan-using-accord-hybrid-system)

http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/new_odyssey.jpg

of course not available here.

[Pumbaa]

Looking to replace my 07 Sienna, anyone know when I should expect new one

[Alby]

i placed an order in end of january. sales told me it would arrive third week of march.

[asian_XL]

love it or hate it, i wish our minivans were as cool as some are overseas...

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag204/VerdeIthaca/HK_Diecast_16-1_zpsz16u0n13.jpg

There are LHD Alphard, should be able to import one else where.

[granemo]

https://vimeo.com/157554308

[GS8]

In case anyone was wondering

:fuckthatshit:

New Chrysler Pacifica to be priced at $43,995 CAN - Windsor - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/new-chrysler-pacifica-to-be-priced-at-43-995-can-1.3485060)

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201601/chrysler-pacifica-hy-13_1600x0w.jpg

http://thechronicleherald.ca/sites/default/files/u27129/pacifica%20dash.jpg

[Gucci Mane]

^ best rental van ever.

[J-Chow]

I just came back from Hong Kong a couple weeks ago, and I couldn't believe the amount of vans they have in that city. They have more vans than sedans lolz. Their Toyota Alphard / vellfire is freakin awesome which is a luxury version of our Toyota sienna. But taking a look at their prices, it's about $70,000+ cad when converted from hkd! And they already have hybrid as an option for most japanese branded minivans ! C'mon North America, get your shit together! Why does Chrysler get first dibs on a hybrid van! :yuno:

[asian_XL]

^ hybrid van is stupid, we had one and traded in for a 3.5 V6 right away.
the mileage is somewhat similar and SLOW, because these vans are heavy like fuck. Unless you have a chauffeur, you won't find it fun to drive.

A HKD version 3.5 V6 Alphard with all the option is about 110,000CAD. 2.4 V6 is around 82,000. That's with all the heavy tax, it should be around 60,000 if in Canada.

[underscore]

C'mon North America, get your shit together! Why does Chrysler get first dibs on a hybrid van! :yuno:

I have a hunch a hybrid van would be garbage for a lot of North Americans, at least any ones that take it outside of big cities.

[Akinari]

This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j29ozp_yM

[Poknat]

On airride and wheels already

[blee123]

i placed an order in end of january. sales told me it would arrive third week of march.

which store did you end up ordering it from?

[Akinari]

On airride and wheels already
One badass family hauler :lawl:

[thumper]

https://youtu.be/iwmPxO6x2tk

[IMASA]

Can't wait for the Hellcat version.

[flagella]

For those of you who got SE, could you share why you added tech package? I like some of the features like blind spot check and automatic rear door (shame on Toyota for not including this in standard) but I feel like most of the $ is towards the Blu-ray entertaient system and nav.

Do you have kids and think the entertainment system would come in handy? I feel like we might be rarely using them and it's limitation to only play Blu-ray discs which aren't cheap. Also kids might just enjoy playing on their tablet more. $5k is pretty steep...