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What colour is this dress?
sonick
02-26-2015, 07:37 PM
This is blowing up twitter, people are seeing the dress in different colours: What color is this dress (21 Photos) : theCHIVE (http://thechive.com/2015/02/26/the-internet-demands-to-know-what-color-is-this-dress-20-photos/)
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/the-internet-is-freaking-out-over-the-color-of-this-dress-4.jpg?w=600&h=909
What colour do you see?
There is one right answer: The Science of Why No One Agrees on the Color of This Dress (http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress)
It's blue
Jas29
02-26-2015, 07:41 PM
White and gold
TOS'd
02-26-2015, 07:42 PM
:facepalm:
blkgsr
02-26-2015, 07:43 PM
white and gold
SkinnyPupp
02-26-2015, 07:53 PM
It's black and blue. But since the colour temperature is so wrong, the reflection on the black part looks gold.
I can see someone saying black and blue or gold and blue. Not sure where the white comes from, unless your monitor is not set up right.
Verdasco
02-26-2015, 07:58 PM
i saw white / gold and i use the flux program in my computer to adjust the gamma/brightness according to the time of day (sunlight) to help my eyes
Verdasco
02-26-2015, 08:01 PM
now i see only black / blue in every website i see the image.... wtf is going on guys.....
SkinnyPupp
02-26-2015, 08:02 PM
If you see white, does that mean you're colour blind? Or is your monitor just jacked to fuck? :fulloffuck:
i-vtecyo
02-26-2015, 08:05 PM
blue and gold is what i see
girl friend sees blue and black
gf's twin brother 1 sees blue and black and twin brother 2 sees white and black.
FN-2199
02-26-2015, 08:06 PM
https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10256158_10152556634211012_8494148065034619759_n.j pg?oh=0948ae3b267c8f579bdeedec22d57c9a&oe=554C9A61
Inaii
02-26-2015, 08:10 PM
The first time I saw the picture it was white/gold. Now it's blue/black every time I look at it.
Jas29
02-26-2015, 08:16 PM
somebody told me if u take sample colours from the dress on photoshop u will get blue and gold
Stealthy
02-26-2015, 08:16 PM
I noticed that if you focus on the 'white' or 'blue' it appears white and gold, whereas if you focus on the 'gold' or 'black' it appears black and blue.
snails
02-26-2015, 08:18 PM
the same picture i see changed based if i scroll the image up or down..
320icar
02-26-2015, 08:19 PM
This thread is fucking stupid.
Nick you're better than this lol
rriggi
02-26-2015, 08:20 PM
I've been deleting this off my FB feed all night....
Now its here :facepalm::facepalm:
Verdasco
02-26-2015, 08:20 PM
If you see white, does that mean you're colour blind? Or is your monitor just jacked to fuck? :fulloffuck:
friend sent a pic via whatsapp, saw white / gold.
Before that, on my computer screen, I saw it white / gold
Now i go back to my whatsapp and computer browser and see black / blue :heckno:
sonick
02-26-2015, 08:21 PM
This thread is fucking stupid.
Nick you're better than this lol
I find the psychology/physiology behind it fascinating. I thought it was bullshit until my own brother was adamant it was white and gold.
Razor Ramon HG
02-26-2015, 08:23 PM
It's not white and gold?
EDIT: Hmm, I took the blue as a colour temperature fuck up, but I guess that wouldn't result in a near perfect shade of gold now that I think about it.
Vansterdam
02-26-2015, 08:32 PM
The first time I saw the picture it was white/gold. Now it's blue/black every time I look at it.
same holy fuck mindfuck
E-40six
02-26-2015, 08:34 PM
I see a white and gold dress, but If i squint my eyes real hard I see black and blue
Tim Budong
02-26-2015, 08:39 PM
dresses and lamas today...
internet today is whack
sonick
02-26-2015, 08:40 PM
dresses and lamas today...
internet today is whack
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-09A0mUUAAvL4R.png:large
Manic!
02-26-2015, 08:45 PM
WTF??? The employees at Canadian Tire were arguing about this dress when I was there today.
SkinnyPupp
02-26-2015, 08:46 PM
https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10256158_10152556634211012_8494148065034619759_n.j pg?oh=0948ae3b267c8f579bdeedec22d57c9a&oe=554C9A61
The shitty mismatched fonts, bad grammar, off center text, and horrible image quality all make this meme 10X funnier
Who is the retard that made this? It HAS to be that bad on purpose
Vansterdam
02-26-2015, 08:50 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--H9D0PIhd--/xylb4ij46r72divligjl.gif
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--3wxnM0-u--/wwn9hwqwy87fynhs6bto.jpg
Here is the real color of that goddamn white and gold dress (http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-is-the-real-color-of-that-goddamn-white-and-gold-d-1688381523?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_faceboo k&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
hotjoint
02-26-2015, 09:04 PM
https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10256158_10152556634211012_8494148065034619759_n.j pg?oh=0948ae3b267c8f579bdeedec22d57c9a&oe=554C9A61
LMFAO
Ronin
02-26-2015, 09:44 PM
...okay, when I first saw it on my FB feed, I saw it as white and gold. I click on the story, the new tab opens and the dress is black and blue. So I click back to the FB tab and the story I clicked on is now black and blue as well what the fuck is happening who is wizard
boostedcivic
02-26-2015, 09:48 PM
This shit got annoying real quick
Klondike
02-26-2015, 10:18 PM
This afternoon it was white and gold and in the evening it turned into black and blue. I looked at it again and now it's white and gold :fuuuuu:
AzNightmare
02-26-2015, 10:18 PM
:suspicious:
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/the-internet-is-freaking-out-over-the-color-of-this-dress-4.jpg
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--H9D0PIhd--/xylb4ij46r72divligjl.gif
First of all, which image is the one being discussed?
These two images are clearly displaying different colours due to the different lighting/contrast settings.
Why does the so-called black area reflect a tint of yellow?
The first image is a bit over exposed. But you cannot change black into yellow tint by just brightening an image. And anyone can tell the second image was taken under low lighting, or it was altered to be darker. The details on the lace are not seen clearly any more, and there is still a yellow tint.
FYI, although the 2nd picture looks "blue", that's how white (or pale gray/blue) would look like under dark conditions. Kind of like how a white car looks like during night time with low lighting. That's not how blue looks like. Especially if it's going to be the deep blue shown here.
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--3wxnM0-u--/wwn9hwqwy87fynhs6bto.jpg
IMHO, I think someone took advantage of this clever idea to make something viral by Photoshopping the image, or there was a gold/white dress that was used in the picture, but isn't on sale anymore. Tie it in with the blue/black version, and now everyone is mindfucked.
http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/53_Rolls_Royce_Silver_Dawn_white.jpg
Here's a picture of a white car taken without a lot of lighting. You can Photoshop it and use the colour sampler tool.
You'll get something like hexcode #728997 in the shaded areas. http://www.colorhexa.com/728997.png
Yeah, but the colour of this car is still white.
jaguar604
02-26-2015, 10:30 PM
Taken from reddit.
http://i.imgur.com/9N4KNLn.jpg
It's a matter of how your mind interprets the lighting. A white-and-gold dress in cool lighting/shadow could have produced that photo, as could a black-and-blue dress in warm yellow lighting. Your mind determines the colors of the dress based on what it assumes the lighting to be like.
etodac
02-26-2015, 10:37 PM
Still no fail button darn it.
geeknerd
02-26-2015, 11:24 PM
did someone actually guess black from the first picture though? i can see the purple/blue right away but i dont see(pun) how people could've guessed black from their first guess.
snowball
02-26-2015, 11:37 PM
I knew it was black and blue the first time because I've seen enough shitty pictures taken with potatoes to know what washed out black looks like.
bananana
02-26-2015, 11:43 PM
I don't understand where people are getting black/blue. I'm sitting here on a $5k rendering rig with colour calibrated S-IPS monitors. It's blue/gold for me.
Either people have very shitty uncalibrated tn-displays or I'm fucking crazy. I think the whole thing is bullshit
/thread
corollagtSr5
02-26-2015, 11:54 PM
Your eyes have retinas, the things that let you interpret color. There’s rods, round things, and cones that stick out, which is what gives your eye a textured appearance in the colored part. The “cones” see color. The “rods” see shade, like black, white and grey. Cones only work when enough light passes through. So while I see the fabric as white, someone else may see it as blue because my cones aren’t responding to the dim lighting. My rods see it as a shade (white). There’s three cones, small, medium and large. They are blue sensitive, green sensitive, and red sensitive.
As for the black bit (which I see as gold), it’s called additive mixing. Blue, green and red are the main colors for additive mixing. This is where it gets really tricky. Subtractive mixing, such as with paint, means the more colors you add the murkier it gets until it’s black. ADDITIVE mixing, when you add the three colors eyes see best, red, green and blue, (not to be confused with primary colors red, blue and yellow) it makes pure white.
—Blue and Black: In conclusion, your retina’s cones are more high functioning, and this results in your eyes doing subtractive mixing.
—White and Gold: our eyes don’t work well in dim light so our retinas rods see white, and this makes them less light sensitive, causing additive mixing, (that of green and red), to make gold.
geeknerd
02-27-2015, 12:11 AM
Your eyes have retinas, the things that let you interpret color. There’s rods, round things, and cones that stick out, which is what gives your eye a textured appearance in the colored part. The “cones” see color. The “rods” see shade, like black, white and grey. Cones only work when enough light passes through. So while I see the fabric as white, someone else may see it as blue because my cones aren’t responding to the dim lighting. My rods see it as a shade (white). There’s three cones, small, medium and large. They are blue sensitive, green sensitive, and red sensitive.
As for the black bit (which I see as gold), it’s called additive mixing. Blue, green and red are the main colors for additive mixing. This is where it gets really tricky. Subtractive mixing, such as with paint, means the more colors you add the murkier it gets until it’s black. ADDITIVE mixing, when you add the three colors eyes see best, red, green and blue, (not to be confused with primary colors red, blue and yellow) it makes pure white.
—Blue and Black: In conclusion, your retina’s cones are more high functioning, and this results in your eyes doing subtractive mixing.
—White and Gold: our eyes don’t work well in dim light so our retinas rods see white, and this makes them less light sensitive, causing additive mixing, (that of green and red), to make gold.
So is this process true for a picture as well? since its a picture on a monitor, i would assume its not?
knowing that washed out black in a picture looks like gold and in turn guessing that the dress is blue&black is different than actually seeing black in the picture, which i dont understand how someone can see it that way.
Tim Budong
02-27-2015, 12:24 AM
http://i.imgur.com/j1KBtZY.jpg
Ulic Qel-Droma
02-27-2015, 12:29 AM
for those who don't get it...
it's because they you are still seeing one side of the "delusion". You are either seeing the truth, or you are seeing a delusion and your perspective is stuck on one of them, that's why the whole thing seems stupid or you totally don't get it.
it's nothing to do with color blindness, or shade blindness or whatever.
it's nothing to do with the technicality of the photo. like "it's a bad quality faded photo, i can see why people are confused".
for those still using those kinda explanations, you are also possibly stuck in the delusion, or you've just always seen the truth and can't be deluded from it.
the best i can describe it is this... for those who have seen the shift in perspective/expectation/color.
Two women are walking down the street, they both see an ad for this dress, the ad looks exactly like the picture in question. they both decide they will go buy the dress together.
they arrive at the mall and find this exact cut of dress. one lady is all happy cuz she found the dress... the other lady is confused and wondering what the fuck is going on, cuz she sees the cut, but the color is completely fucking wrong and totally not the same shit they were looking at.
"this is the blue and black dress!!!"
"what the fuck? where is the white and Egyptian gold dress?!"
"what? what are you talking about?"
"uhhh that pic... the white and gold dress?"
"uhhh no it's blue and black, exactly like the one im holding now"
for those who saw the shift saw the extreme shift in colors like the above example, most of you probably thought your friends were trolling you (i did).
I was asked what color it was, and i said white and gold. they didn't reply. well i duno the nature of the question... that was retarded... its obviously white and gold.
3 hours later, i scroll back to the chat and i see a thumbnail of a blue and black dress... what the fuck when did they send this? wait the time stamp says its the old pic... what the fuck? open it... it's fucking blue and black... who the fuck switched the photo in the chat? how did they do that? are they fucking with me? what the fuck is happening?
story of the day bros.
edit: this is like a mini psychedelic micro trip. a lesson in perspective, and how expectations from the subconscious shift what your senses detect and how your brain interprets it. The world is an illluuuussiiooonnnnnnnnnn... we're all in some kinda matrix yo.
FN-2199
02-27-2015, 12:40 AM
^Had the exact same thing happen to me just now. At the time I posted that meme, I would've bet my life on that pic being black and blue. Now, I see it being a white and gold dress in some shitty lighting.
I wasn't able to distinguish the white or the gold earlier, and now I'm completely blown away.
SkinnyPupp
02-27-2015, 01:37 AM
did someone actually guess black from the first picture though? i can see the purple/blue right away but i dont see(pun) how people could've guessed black from their first guess.
Maybe it's because I'm familiar with how lighting colour temp affects photography, but was immediately noticeable to me.
I still can't comprehend someone seeing white at all, but I guess I'll never get it.
I know that overly 'cool' photos can make whites look like they have a blue tint. If it was an ALL blue dress, with no background at all, then I can understand someone thinking it's white. But this SHOULD be compensated by the fact that the rest of the image has a yellow tint. . Yellow lighting, and yellow shine on the black means the dress is blue. That's what made it obvious for me
StylinRed
02-27-2015, 04:07 AM
it's going to be discussed on the bbc in a few mins... -_-
i see lavender & gold....and so does photoshop
seems more like those saying black/blue are saying so due to the obvious potato/exposure issues of the image and not based on what they're actually seeing
massive trolls
:fulloffuck: now im seeing black and blue.....time to log this if i ever need to deal with 'eyewitnesses' ;)
N.V.M.
02-27-2015, 04:25 AM
5:30 Am Friday
sonick
02-27-2015, 06:35 AM
I saw black and blue at first glance and see it every time, even the adjusted ones where it's supposed to look like white and gold I still see it as blue and black. In fact I haven't seen a single photoshop that has gotten me to see white-gold at first glance.
What I'm interested in now is if there's any significance to those who see it as blue and those who see it as white. Is it because one's brains are better at compensating for context, or one is better at isolating features.
I know anecdotally the white-gold people seem to be more steadfast about it.
underscore
02-27-2015, 07:43 AM
It's a shitty picture of an ugly dress for fucks sake.
What nobody has mentioned is: are you arguing about the colour it actually is, or the colour it appears in your screen after being photographed with a carrot? It doesn't matter how good your eyes or screens are when the source is garbage.
sonick
02-27-2015, 07:45 AM
Despite how seemingly inane the photo is, evolutionarily speaking, those who see it as black and blue could be said as superior since they are able to contextualize the colours to accurately portray how it looks in reality despite the poor image.
E.g. if a cop came and asked what colour the dress was in order to catch a suspect, if the person said it was white and gold it'd be incorrect.
SkinnyPupp
02-27-2015, 07:52 AM
It's a shitty picture of an ugly dress for fucks sake.
What nobody has mentioned is: are you arguing about the colour it actually is, or the colour it appears in your screen after being photographed with a carrot? It doesn't matter how good your eyes or screens are when the source is garbage.
Nobody is arguing, it's just fascinating. Like I still can't comprehend someone seeing it as white. It just makes my brain spin.
And for some people it goes "back and forth"? That's mind boggling.
SpartanAir
02-27-2015, 08:00 AM
THIS THREAD/TOPIC/"TREND"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiX9mlDY9E
SkinnyPupp
02-27-2015, 08:04 AM
THIS THREAD/TOPIC/"TREND"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiX9mlDY9E
Yet you came in here and posted a reply :derp:
Durrann
02-27-2015, 08:08 AM
Nobody is arguing, it's just fascinating. Like I still can't comprehend someone seeing it as white. It just makes my brain spin.
And for some people it goes "back and forth"? That's mind boggling.
it is mind boggling.
it's been going back and forth for me as well
underscore
02-27-2015, 08:14 AM
Nobody is arguing, it's just fascinating. Like I still can't comprehend someone seeing it as white. It just makes my brain spin.
That's how you know someone has hit advanced levels of taking a poor quality picture.
SpartanAir
02-27-2015, 08:18 AM
Yet you came in here and posted a reply :derp:
Sure did. When it keeps getting bumped to the top of every damn newsfeed long after it's been solved and is really not that interesting to begin with, that's really how I feel.
Ironically, I realize I just bumped this to the top again. :derp:
I'm walking away.
SkinnyPupp
02-27-2015, 08:24 AM
That's how you know someone has hit advanced levels of taking a poor quality picture.
Pretty much! I always fuck around with colour temperature to make sure it looks right. All the way back to my first digital camera bought in like 2001
Ferra
02-27-2015, 08:44 AM
Your eyes have retinas, the things that let you interpret color. There’s rods, round things, and cones that stick out, which is what gives your eye a textured appearance in the colored part. The “cones” see color. The “rods” see shade, like black, white and grey. Cones only work when enough light passes through. So while I see the fabric as white, someone else may see it as blue because my cones aren’t responding to the dim lighting. My rods see it as a shade (white). There’s three cones, small, medium and large. They are blue sensitive, green sensitive, and red sensitive.
As for the black bit (which I see as gold), it’s called additive mixing. Blue, green and red are the main colors for additive mixing. This is where it gets really tricky. Subtractive mixing, such as with paint, means the more colors you add the murkier it gets until it’s black. ADDITIVE mixing, when you add the three colors eyes see best, red, green and blue, (not to be confused with primary colors red, blue and yellow) it makes pure white.
—Blue and Black: In conclusion, your retina’s cones are more high functioning, and this results in your eyes doing subtractive mixing.
—White and Gold: our eyes don’t work well in dim light so our retinas rods see white, and this makes them less light sensitive, causing additive mixing, (that of green and red), to make gold.
I don't buy this retina bs
probably just comes down to whether your brain interprets the pictures being taken in a shaded, neutral white lighting (w&g) or a very yellowish lighting (b&b)
The picture is so shitty and without any clear background, there is no information we can use in the picture to figure out what lighting condition it was actually taken in...so we arbitrary attribute either one of the 2 lighting condition it could've been in and see 2 different colors dress.
I guess it is like the dancing silhouette and moving train illusions, but for colors instead of movement.
white rocket
02-27-2015, 08:55 AM
This is the kind of stuff that "blows up on Twitter"? Another reason I'm not on there. Ha!
I honestly only see white and gold. I can't even comprehend blue and black. Is this some sort of mind trick or something?
RRxtar
02-27-2015, 09:00 AM
When I made my first guess I said white/gold because I am so used to seeing photography of snow scenes with the wrong white balance like tungsten making the snow look blue. So my lightroom/photoshop brain was correcting the highlights white balance to white.
http://www.schoolofimaging.ca/images/white-balance-1.jpg
If I stop looking at the white and focus on the black/gold, my mind slowly changes to blue/black
white and gold on monitor
bkue and black on phone
Tegra_Devil
02-27-2015, 10:27 AM
I dunno, looks straight forward black and blue...people who don't know that have some serious eye problems lol
I see blue/black on my phone, computer at home and computer at work lol
Spoon
02-27-2015, 10:37 AM
Saw different colors in different monitors. If anything, this useless issue only reinforces my desires to get a new monitor. Dell must be behind this bullshit because I've been thinking of their U2715H the whole week (Dell UltraSharp 27 Inch QHD Monitor ? U2715H (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Gaming_Accessories/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=210-ADKB)). FML
RS_Pat
02-27-2015, 10:46 AM
The correct answer is men prefer the dress off, so we don't care about the colour!
RRxtar
02-27-2015, 10:50 AM
To bring back some internet history, which was is the girl spinning
http://i.imgur.com/YBsKWjo.gif
sekin67835
02-27-2015, 10:52 AM
Try looking at the picture in the sunlight with your phone. Tilt the phone and u will see different colors. Magic.
AzNightmare
02-27-2015, 11:21 AM
The actual colour of the dress in OP image is PALE GRAYISH BLUE, and DARK BRONZE.
Except the actual colours of the dress are claiming to be this: BLUE and BLACK.
:fulloffuck:
freakshow
02-27-2015, 11:34 AM
i love how people claim that the 'actual' colour is blue/black.. but when you look at the photoshop data, it comes out as AzN mentioned above...
sonick
02-27-2015, 11:42 AM
The actual colour of the dress in OP image is PALE GRAYISH BLUE, and DARK BRONZE.
Except the actual colours of the dress are claiming to be this: BLUE and BLACK.
:fulloffuck:
When you go to the theaters to watch a movie and it's a dark scene, is the darkness black? The screen is white!
AzNightmare
02-27-2015, 11:46 AM
When you go to the theaters to watch a movie and it's a dark scene, is the darkness black? The screen is white!
Can you be more elaborate. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
The colours we see on the white screen will be dictated by the colours the projector is showing...
sonick
02-27-2015, 11:59 AM
I am trying to discern how people would define the 'correct' colour; whether it's correct to say what it actually IS, or what it is meant to represent. Note that this is all train of thought and I don't claim to really know anything.
Yes in the photo the raw colour values show the dress is pale blue and bronze. However, a photo is supposed to be a representation of reality; which in reality the dress is blue and black.
In a movie theater, you are technically looking at a white screen. When you look at a B&W photograph of a black object on a white background projected onto a white screen, on the face value, the object is actually white because of the white screen.
However when you ask 'what colour is the object projected onto the screen', would it be more or less correct to say the object is black because you are taking into account context of the entire image as a representation of the actual piece in reality.
Note I use B&W as an example as colour is probably a whole other can of worms which I am not smart enough to comprehend.
Ulic Qel-Droma
02-27-2015, 02:40 PM
It's a shitty picture of an ugly dress for fucks sake.
What nobody has mentioned is: are you arguing about the colour it actually is, or the colour it appears in your screen after being photographed with a carrot? It doesn't matter how good your eyes or screens are when the source is garbage.
The fact that you have to ask that question means you are stuck in one perspective. You cannot see what we are talking about.
The ACTUAL dress is black and blue
The photo is of the black and blue dress in the sunlight.
Everyone that sees black and blue sees the dress in sunlight. The black is faded Cuz of the sun and the blue is lighter Cuz of the sun.
The people that see GOLD AND WHITE literally see the white power ranger gold and white. Like its not "faded" or "bad picture"
It LITERALLY is Gold and white (like the Nike shoes and power ranger posted in this thread)
It is not an argument of what the actual dress is. It is the literal color of the picture.
Did you not read my post? You either see it for what it really is. Or you see gold and white.
I'm not talking about putting a god damn color palette next to the "blacks" and going "oh it's actually a very dark shade of brownish yellow tinge over black"
You KNOW it's black because it's a faded photo.
The people that claim it's white and gold literally fucking see white and gold. Not like a literal technical comparison to some color chart.
It seems that some people cannot switch. And some people once switched cannot switch back.
Sorry dude. You just don't get what we are talking about. Until you see the shift. You'll be in the darkness of subjective ignorance.
Like an old person unable to hear some frequency. Or a color blind person not being able to distinguish a green and brown stripped shirt from just a pure brown shirt. Except those are kinda bad examples because they are physical deficiencies. This dress thing is to do with color shade expectations with surrounding light and background color. Your subconscious for whatever reason favors what you see and feeds it to your conscious mind and you interpret it as some color.
For people that never see a shift, perhaps with more rigid subconscious mind that haven't fully accepted and realised (at the subconscious level) the unreliability of the 5 senses (rely too much on sensual confirmation rather than intuition), their minds are too hard wired into certain color pattern expectations and their mind just cannot elasticize enough to make it shift.
Ulic Qel-Droma
02-27-2015, 02:48 PM
Yes in the photo the raw colour values show the dress is pale blue and bronze. However, a photo is supposed to be a representation of reality; which in reality the dress is blue and black.
Yes exactly. The shitty photo is a representation of reality. And some people see the representation despite the shitty photo. They have the intuition to know that it's actually a black and blue dress and that the "tint" is from the sunlight and shit camera.
OTHERS however CANNOT see the representation of reality. They think in reality the dress is actually gold and white.
It's not hard to understand people. Even if you don't see it. You should understand what the fuck we are talking about.
AzNightmare
02-27-2015, 04:43 PM
That's so weird...
I literally see Gold and tint of blue. And concluded it was actually a white and gold dress, because the dress was taken under low lighting.
Just like how we can determine this car is not blue, yet an image sampler will show you it is blue.
http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/53_Rolls_Royce_Silver_Dawn_white.jpg
This blue imo is just about as blue as that blue dress is in the OP image.
Yet we can conclude the dress is blue, but this car is white?
Seeing enough white cars under low lighting or under a shade or such, it's easy to determine how white would look like in this specific scenario.
At this point, I am strongly convinced everyone sees the same shade of
PALE GRAYISH BLUE, and DARK BRONZE.
What I want to know is what visual cues did the people that saw "blue/black" use to determine the dress was blue and black?
I'm having a hard time believing the lighting could consistently change black to gold, but not turn the blue parts yellowish too. I'm not sure where was it stated this was taken under sunlight, because up to this point, I was lead to think the dress was taken from an indoor store based on the background.
If the exposure was messed, I still don't see where the gold would have came from.
Black is a tough colour to manipulate, especially if it's not reflective, such as cloth. So for the black areas to show yellow tint of any sort, there must be a strong yellow spot light (Maybe sunlight does play into this then, so we'll go with that for argument's sake). But then wouldn't blue (a colour that's easier to be manipulated) also show tints of yellow?
I'm not a colour theorist though so maybe strong yellow can washout blue completely just leaving a pale blue colour rather than showing any yellow because of some "spectrum cancellation colour magic".
N.V.M.
02-27-2015, 06:00 PM
The colour of the dress is go fuck yourself.
I don't understand where people are getting black/blue. I'm sitting here on a $5k rendering rig with colour calibrated S-IPS monitors. It's blue/gold for me.
Either people have very shitty uncalibrated tn-displays or I'm fucking crazy. I think the whole thing is bullshit
/thread
Ionno, I'm using a 1 month new Dell Ultrasharp IPS and it looks gold/white to me.
I'm due for an eye exam anyways. Maybe I'll ask my optometrist what her opinion is lulz
v_tec
02-27-2015, 10:34 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gypvvhX4q0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AskAQwOBvhc
SkinnyPupp
02-27-2015, 11:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AskAQwOBvhc
That's pretty much how I explained it the moment I saw it.
It was instantly clear to me that it's not in a naturally lit environment. I think there must be something to why people aren't picking that fact up. Not just the physiology of our eyes, but psychologically somehow. Some people just aren't perceiving the environment for whatever reason.
AzNightmare
02-28-2015, 03:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AskAQwOBvhc
@1:24
Yellow lights:
Gold is the reflection of the black and the blue was unaffected
Except the blue was heavily washed out
and the black was reflected based on the material being sheer.
Yet there was no way of knowing what material the clothing was, or how much the dark blue was washed out without knowing how the original dress should look like.
So for those that are on team blue/black, I guess all these facts were instantly perceived?
SkinnyPupp
02-28-2015, 05:53 AM
@1:24
Yellow lights:
Gold is the reflection of the black and the blue was unaffected
Except the blue was heavily washed out
and the black was reflected based on the material being sheer.
Yet there was no way of knowing what material the clothing was, or how much the dark blue was washed out without knowing how the original dress should look like.
So for those that are on team blue/black, I guess all these facts were instantly perceived?
Yes. So that means blue/black people have more keen perception?
I wonder if you could separate the two groups by IQ
AzNightmare
02-28-2015, 06:18 AM
I wonder if you could separate the two groups by IQ
Here's a more elaborate explanation... So I would say it probably has little to do with IQ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexnhNfOzHg
underscore
02-28-2015, 06:20 AM
It was instantly clear to me that it's not in a naturally lit environment. I think there must be something to why people aren't picking that fact up. Not just the physiology of our eyes, but psychologically somehow. Some people just aren't perceiving the environment for whatever reason.
Probably because there isn't much else in the picture, just a washed out background with a touch of red.
sonick
02-28-2015, 07:38 AM
What I want to know is what visual cues did the people that saw "blue/black" use to determine the dress was blue and black?
The background has a yellow cast or tint to it, which made me think (well my brain automatically perceive) it was taken indoors in artificial warm lighting.
SkinnyPupp
02-28-2015, 07:43 AM
Probably because there isn't much else in the picture, just a washed out background with a touch of red.
Exactly. People keep saying that there is no context, but there is context. 1/6th of the picture provides plenty of context.
underscore
03-03-2015, 10:25 PM
^ spam account?
bananana
03-03-2015, 11:46 PM
Ionno, I'm using a 1 month new Dell Ultrasharp IPS and it looks gold/white to me.
I'm due for an eye exam anyways. Maybe I'll ask my optometrist what her opinion is lulz
I'm running the same monitors but with a Spyder 3 Pro ambient light sensor/ external colour calibrator. It seems like the whole thing is based on your brain's perception more-so than actual vision.
Obsideon
03-04-2015, 09:07 PM
Damn both teams wearing the same colour jersey! :concentrate:
http://1.cdn.nhle.com/sharks/images/upload/gallery/2013/12/459747123_slide.jpg
asian_XL
03-04-2015, 09:19 PM
Apple users need to check their eyes
https://eliechahine.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/iphones-iphone-5-graphite-gold-iphone-5s-iphone-5c.jpg
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