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: Coming out of the automotive closet


multicartual
03-30-2015, 01:47 PM
I like Fieros.


There, I said it!!!


http://i.imgur.com/CPQuxKO.jpg



People do all sorts of cool shit with them.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOcjp_vxJnU



Fiero Ferrari pros:

- Cheap parts
- Not afraid to track it. Crash it? Throw it in the gutter and build another
- LSx engine swap possible, along with Northstar, 3.4 DOHC and 3800SC, etc
- The look on the faces of people when you say it is a Fiero

Fiero Ferrari cons:

- The look on the faces of people when you say it is a Fiero

multicartual
03-30-2015, 01:48 PM
Failstorm coming in 3...2...1...


Requesting Timpo backup

Soundy
03-30-2015, 01:53 PM
Requesting Timpo backup
I LOL'd for real

white rocket
03-30-2015, 01:54 PM
Nothing wrong with Fiero's. Quirky little sports car I suppose. Buddy had one in high school and it was slizzammed to the floor. Even had the "Oh so f'kin low" sticker.

But making a Fiero into a Ferrari? That's fucking retarded, dumb, pointless....................etc

TOS'd
03-30-2015, 01:56 PM
OP, dis u?

https://youtu.be/2l66BZm_1rw

Traum
03-30-2015, 02:08 PM
Dude, this one is for you then. Should definitely look into it:

West Coast Fieros Club : Home Page (http://www.westcoastfieros.com/)

Had the chance to briefly meet up with them in the past. Seems like a bunch of good and fun loving folks.

hud 91gt
03-30-2015, 02:12 PM
Besides being unreliable, what isn't there to like about Fiero's. Pontiac was spot on when they made them, if they weren't such a piece of shit I think they would have done really really well. The GT has v6 torque in a mid engine rwd chassis? Can I get a F$&k ya!?!?

Who remembers the Cadi V8 swap a member had on here years ago? That was way more entertaining then all the boring turbo civics it was competing with. Who was that member anyhow?


Out of the closet? That's for the miata guys. But saying that, I guess I came out as soon as mazda made the thing ;)

Retrac
03-30-2015, 02:48 PM
Unique cars that was killed off just as it began getting better. The 88 year had the better handling setup. They've become a cult car now and I prefer the stock GT look over a fake Ferrari. Something about posing just isn't right. But a 3.8 supercharged motor is pretty awesome!

punkwax
03-30-2015, 03:07 PM
lol Welfiero

Hondaracer
03-30-2015, 03:59 PM
Capt Fiero who used to be on here had the northstar V8 swap in his, claimed to get the front tires off the ground i believe

jpark
03-30-2015, 05:01 PM
I remember seeing this video a while back, a really well done Murcielago Fiero replica..
Sounds like shit though with that GM 3.8 pos v6 :fuckthatshit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZYgf89g_Q8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNmWBLNRRA

SumAznGuy
03-30-2015, 05:37 PM
I remember USA Top Gear had an episode where they drove "high end" cars as a chauffer and one of them had a Fiero 308. LOL

I must admit, I still love the look of an 88 GT. I always wanted one because of the look of the exterior.
I swear the second gen MR2 stole their looks from the 88 GT's.

fliptuner
03-30-2015, 07:15 PM
I always thought of them as Sunbirds, with the drivetrain jumbled around.

multicartual
03-30-2015, 07:18 PM
Shocked that I didn't get failed down, my ability to predict reactions on RS isn't as good as I thought!

ae101
03-30-2015, 07:59 PM
inbe4matt-wrap&tron-cracklines :troll:

GLOW
03-31-2015, 09:53 AM
liked fieros when i was in elementary school growing up. a girl that lived across the street had one :megusta:

heleu
03-31-2015, 10:45 AM
Fieros are cool. GM should have kept on developing them instead of abandoning it after a few years. They could have made a decent American MR2.

Except the interior....typical 80's awful GM interior.

TouringTeg
04-02-2015, 07:45 PM
Just found you an 86 GT with V6 plus a parts car. Now get on it!

Obo. 86 Pontiac Fiero GT For Sale W/ 87 Fiero Parts Car Outside Victoria, Victoria (http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Obo-86-Pontiac-Fiero-GT-For-Sale-W-87-Fiero-Parts-Car_24775569)

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usedphotosna/45956051_614.jpg

underscore
04-02-2015, 08:54 PM
Buddy of mine in highschool had one, the interiors were awful. They're neat enough cars but there's no way I'd pick one over an MR2.

westopher
04-03-2015, 12:11 AM
Pros: people who like fieros enough to drive them will die in a horrible gasoline fire.
Cons: see above.

jlenko
04-03-2015, 02:43 PM
I'm with the OP.. I've wanted one for a while. Maybe if I can find a decent 88 GT around I'll ditch the Crapalier project and stuff the L32 into a Fire-O instead..

Timpo
04-03-2015, 02:52 PM
I just don't see a point of replica.

It usually costs $30-45,000 to build a Ferrari 348/F355 replica and at that price, you can buy a real Ferrari.

I know fake one would be cheaper to maintain, but still, if that's the case why wouldn't you buy something cheaper to maintain like Miata, Datsun 240Z, MR2, Silvia, etc.

Habboy
04-03-2015, 03:50 PM
*New* 1984 Pontiac Fiero 200 kms (http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/ctd/4936324284.html)

This would be something....never driven? BRAND NEW????

http://images.craigslist.org/00M0M_6pyoXuhSSdq_600x450.jpg

hud 91gt
04-03-2015, 04:51 PM
That is actually really cool.

punkwax
04-03-2015, 04:57 PM
What are the chances? Do it, multi!

Gucci Mane
04-03-2015, 06:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVBLU1fhqnY

CaptFiero
07-19-2015, 09:17 AM
Thread Bump, only cause this is the first time I have been here since this thread started. Ya I had a Caddy powered V8 Fiero, but it was not the Northstar. I had the 4.9 with Custom cam, Hand made intake, 6 puck Clutch, and Nitrous. I said I could darn near pull the wheels, but I could never get enough traction. It would either hook and go like a banshee or spin. Too much Nitrous eventually blew the bottom end out of the motor. I am in the middle of getting 10g together that I can drop into an LS3 swap. Figure 450hp and 450lbs of torque will be enough stock to keep my happy for a bit. I loved the 4.9 and it was great for what it was, but trying to get to the next level with it was impossible, they just were not made to be modified that much. The LSx V8 motors on the other hand are a car modders dream. Lots of Vette and Camaro guys are getting 1000hp on stock bottom ends with Turbo swaps that are still daily driveable on pump gas with the boost dropped a bit. If anyone wants the full length version of the video posted above, I have it around here someplace. I think its like 15mins total. That car had the 3.4 Twin Cam V6 great high revving, but not so much torque down low. I want TORQUE, I am a TORQUE JUNKIE.

CaptFiero
07-19-2015, 10:50 AM
Ah here it is, if someone can figure out how to make it a better link than this.

http://captfiero.com/videos/Documentires%20and%20TV/Drive%20Plus%20-%20How%20to%20Turn%20a%20Fiero%20Into%20a%20Track% 20Car%20-%20_MATT%20FARAH2.mp4

XplicitLuder
07-19-2015, 10:59 AM
i went by MD FAB a couple of days ago and i always saw that red lambo countach outside their shop until i finally said oh thatsa nice lambo its been tehre for a while huh ? and hes lke ya that fiero has been there for some time LOL

Phil@rise
07-21-2015, 09:40 PM
Ive always wanted to build a v8 88 gt about a decade ago I assisted another shop build a countache v8 swapped fiero. it was a ton of work in the end it was prob faster than the real deal and cheap to maintain.

CaptFiero
07-22-2015, 08:11 AM
Ive always wanted to build a v8 88 gt about a decade ago I assisted another shop build a countache v8 swapped fiero. it was a ton of work in the end it was prob faster than the real deal and cheap to maintain.

That is very true, a properly setup V8 Fiero will trounce real Exotics in acceleration and braking, however Top Speed will still usually go to the Real Things.

Now then as to building an 88 vs an 87, there is pretty much a 50% increase in price when you go from an 87GT to an 88GT I tell kit car builders to go for an 87 then take the extra cash and put it into an aftermarket big brake kit and bump steer elimination kit. In the end you will have better brakes and suspension than a stock 88GT, without the EXTREME price tag of 88 Fiero parts. IE, an 87 front wheel bearing is 13 bucks, an 88 front wheel bearing starts at around $150 for a cheap junk off sore China made one, and up to around $450 for a set of Used GM Delco ones. 88 Brake calipers are getting harder and harder to find. 88 Control arms are simple non existent. So if you are building a Kit Car and don't care about collector status or the COOL factor of owning a rare 88 Fiero, just skip the 88's and stick to the early cars. Now reverse that if you are investing in the car, and want to see it go up in value. 88GT's are ranging from $5000 for a poor condition one, to $60,000 for a pristine low mile car. When I say pristine, I mean factory dealer invoice still stuck on the window with less than 1000 miles on the odometer. My Yellow 88GT 5spd car is 1 of 20 yellow 88s imported to Canada back in 87/88 and one of only I think 5 still on the road in Canada. Its got a So So, engine, a good 5spd, a mediocre interior. (no rips or tears just dirty) Sagging head liner and needs a repaint. Its still worth 4-5K just becuase its a Yellow 88GT 5spd car. If it were an 87GT in the same condition I would not value it over $2500-$3000.

So far the fastest street driven pump gas drivable Fiero is running 10.0 flat in the quarter at 140mph The fastest on record is 8 seconds but is basically a tube frame race car. The average for a modified car with either a 3.8 Supercharger / Turbocharged motor, or a modern V8 is a mid 12 second quarter. A LOT of people like the 3.8 Supercharged swap as its as fast as a V8 but does not require any adapter kits, as its the same bellhousing and mounting points as the factory motors. Personally my next Fiero build will be an LS3 (6.0 litre V8) then toss a Turbo on top of that to really wake it up down the road.