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rzrshrp
04-09-2015, 09:35 PM
Hi,

I am frustrated/depressed and seeking some advice atm.

I have been applying to jobs since February, but have had no luck. (February to March were co-op jobs, from which I didn't even get any interviews). So putting my co-op goals aside (highly unlikely to land a job after mid-March), I decided to start applying for summer jobs in early March just to be safe.

It has been about a month of applying to around 30-40 summer (non co-op) jobs and I still haven't received a single call for an interview. My friends have about the same experience as me (uni students) but they seem to have found jobs after applying to only 10-20!

I am very demotivated and let down at the moment, especially since I have been looking since February for coop jobs and couldn't find those and now my backup is not working either...

If someone could please give me some guidance as to what I may be doing wrong? I have been applying to jobs such as bank teller/CSR (I posted a thread about that), pharmacy assistant, retail, and even stocking at Costco! The bank teller job was the closest I got to an interview in which I went in to the bank after calling in early March about potential openings.

The manager seemed interested in hiring me and asked my availability, why I want to change jobs, etc. And said she is hiring next month (should be now) and gave me her card. But I have tried calling them countless times, and emailing her regarding a follow-up but she hasn't gotten back to me.

I assume none of these people are interested in hiring me. How do you guys go about the job search for summer? Here is what I do usually:
- Look online for postings (Craigslist, company websites, etc.) and see what I like
- Tailor resume and cover letter to job specifically and send

Again, my friends have been doing this too and they all have received offers within a week. It's frustrating to hear "just apply" and "keep applying" when I have been doing it longer than they have!

Please let me know what you think,

Thanks

axxess
04-09-2015, 09:46 PM
Have you've ever considered that your resume is not up to standard?
Assuming you're in university, go to your career centre and ask the ladies to help you revamp your resume to make you stand out from the rest.
Try volunteering instead of working, volunteer for some non-profits, it looks better on a resume.

omnomnomnivore
04-09-2015, 09:52 PM
Have you had the chance to try networking and/or referrals?

ziggyx
04-09-2015, 09:57 PM
I know how you feel man. Maybe my old thread can give you some help.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/696235-trouble-getting-interviews-any-advice.html

rzrshrp
04-09-2015, 10:00 PM
Have you've ever considered that your resume is not up to standard?
Assuming you're in university, go to your career centre and ask the ladies to help you revamp your resume to make you stand out from the rest.
Try volunteering instead of working, volunteer for some non-profits, it looks better on a resume.

I am in uni right now. That has been always on the back of my mind. But in all honesty I have gone to a few workshops that work on resumes (including to my co-op coordinator) and they all gave it the okay after a few minor tweaks. I plan on volunteering (in a related field) along with working. I need some income this summer. I also need to write the MCAT so it will be busy.


Have you had the chance to try networking and/or referrals?

I don't really understand how to network. What I do in terms of not applying online is to either call in to see if they are hiring and then go to speak to the manager. Or I talk to some people about if they know of any places that are hiring at the moment, but still no luck.

I just hope it's not too late :(

SpeedStars
04-09-2015, 10:07 PM
Companies usually finalize the summer positions around may so you've still got hope! Keep in mind, while most companies may take a week to get to your resume, some may take a month (its happened to me before). Your resume is what sells you to the employer. Once you've got that, the interview is pretty much to make sure you weren't bsing anything on your resume. Hold your head high!

ilovebacon
04-09-2015, 10:10 PM
Keep looking you'll bound to find one!
There are job fair coming up this month try to keep a eye out

TypeRNammer
04-09-2015, 10:12 PM
CMBC Casual Labour FTT (Post Secondary Students Only)

Translink is hiring for this position. They're specifically looking for post secondary students like yourself. But must have the intention to go back to post secondary once summer is up.

zetazeta
04-09-2015, 10:17 PM
Was in the same boat as you during the summer between my 3rd and 4th yr. I had a ton of retail and customer service experience but couldn't land a single job after applying to 20+. It's all a numbers game... sometimes the right resume or availability comes in just when a position is opened.

Funny thing is, I didn't end up getting any of those retail or CSR jobs but a few weeks later I landed an amazing internship at a great company. 3 years later, and I'm now graduated and still with the same company. Don't give up!

rzrshrp
04-09-2015, 10:23 PM
Companies usually finalize the summer positions around may so you've still got hope! Keep in mind, while most companies may take a week to get to your resume, some may take a month (its happened to me before). Your resume is what sells you to the employer. Once you've got that, the interview is pretty much to make sure you weren't bsing anything on your resume. Hold your head high!

Ugh I feel like I am so screwed, and the sad part is that I have actually started the whole process so long ago. It's a lot of effort dude! On top of heavy school work and five finals to study for just so demotivating.

Keep looking you'll bound to find one!
There are job fair coming up this month try to keep a eye out

Thanks. Do you know of any job fairs that are happening soon?

CMBC Casual Labour FTT (Post Secondary Students Only)

Translink is hiring for this position. They're specifically looking for post secondary students like yourself. But must have the intention to go back to post secondary once summer is up.

Hey thanks for the heads up! I just searched the position and the deadline was March 12th?

Was in the same boat as you during the summer between my 3rd and 4th yr. I had a ton of retail and customer service experience but couldn't land a single job after applying to 20+. It's all a numbers game... sometimes the right resume or availability comes in just when a position is opened.

Funny thing is, I didn't end up getting any of those retail or CSR jobs but a few weeks later I landed an amazing internship at a great company. 3 years later, and I'm now graduated and still with the same company. Don't give up!

That's nice to hear! Just read your thread! Glad to hear you have found a job and are happy now :)

It's hard though, and I have honestly been trying my best. I'll keep going, hopefully something happens before May. How many jobs should I be applying to weekly? Just did 15 jobs on Monday :/

Thanks for the support guys! :)

TypeRNammer
04-09-2015, 10:29 PM
If you go to the tranlink website, and head over to the careers section, click the CMBC tab, and you'll find the job posting there.

The posting has been up since April 1st.

320icar
04-09-2015, 10:30 PM
What costco did you apply at? Richmond costco is doing a big hiring blitz right now (already doing interviews) so if you are anywhere near there, go in and talk to amanager with your resume

rzrshrp
04-09-2015, 10:32 PM
If you go to the tranlink website, and head over to the careers section, click the CMBC tab, and you'll find the job posting there.

The posting has been up since April 1st.

Thanks a lot! I will check that out and apply ASAP!


What costco did you apply at? Richmond costco is doing a big hiring blitz right now (already doing interviews) so if you are anywhere near there, go in and talk to amanager with your resume

I applied to the Richmond one. They had a hiring fair recently... The mini-interview I had was so short as well, he asked me a few brief questions while asking everyone else a bunch. My friends got interviews already. It's sad when you don't even get a call from Costco.... Thanks lol

Euro7r
04-09-2015, 10:53 PM
A lot of employers for paid work is looking for people with experience, even for entry level jobs. If you have zero work experience, it's a good idea to volunteer and gain some experience.

It took me 11 months before I actually got a job in my field of study. After a few months of looking, I decided to volunteer and gain some work experience as that greatly helped increase my odds in landing a job as I had zero to none experience in my field. Of course, who the hell wants to work for free, right? But you'll make back everything shortly after.

rzrshrp
04-09-2015, 11:10 PM
A lot of employers for paid work is looking for people with experience, even for entry level jobs. If you have zero work experience, it's a good idea to volunteer and gain some experience.

It took me 11 months before I actually got a job in my field of study. After a few months of looking, I decided to volunteer and gain some work experience as that greatly helped increase my odds in landing a job as I had zero to none experience in my field. Of course, who the hell wants to work for free, right? But you'll make back everything shortly after.

Already on that brah, I realized I didn't have that great experience (which set me apart from other candidates). So I will be volunteering this summer, which is generally easier to find than a job. But since co-op didn't work out this term, I still need a job for some income! While I need to write my MCAT, I need to be able to do things this summer too!

XplicitLuder
04-09-2015, 11:17 PM
try pharmacy assistant at london drugs in bretnwood. gf works there and they always seem to have understaffed , and shes quitting in the next week lol

kevin7352
04-09-2015, 11:50 PM
Hey man. I have no advice to give you but just wanted to say that I am legitimately in the same boat as you and the boat seems to be going nowhere. I was extremely depressed and in fact it got quite unhealthy how depressed I was. I came to realize and understand that there had to either be 1) some circumstances that were beyond my control or 2) some component in my application process that I was doing wrong. Or both. I think as university students we perceive life events, short term, on semester basis and long term on a year 1-4 basis so it always feels like a race against [a very little amount of] time. Well anyways with that being said, I decided to listen to people's advice and just keep at it but don't take it too personally. Things have turned out okay for people before us and we can't be as big of misfits as we think we are. This has helped me feel a lot better. We should get a beer.

mr_chin
04-10-2015, 04:54 AM
Are you looking for a specific occupation? Some jobs just aren't in high demand. I'm surprised Costco didn't hire you though.

In your interviews, are you telling them that it's a summer job? You have to realize that there might be other candidates they are interviewing that wants to stay in the company longer. Also, make sure you have something to offer that is much better than the other candidates. Positivity comes to mind.

Do you have any skills or experience? Maybe look for a job based on those. If you're not afraid of heavy physical work... I'm pretty sure one of the big chain grocery (superstore, london drugs, etc) will hire stockers.

Lastly, if you've tried all I've mentioned and/or don't possess the experience/skills to get into a specific job, McDonald's or 7/11 are probably your last resort.

6793026
04-10-2015, 06:53 AM
send me ur resume, i'll send you in and we can exchange ideas.

axxess
04-10-2015, 09:58 AM
You can try and get your security license and apply for some temporary security jobs.

Hot Karl
04-10-2015, 10:12 AM
when you type shit like "even stocking at costco!"

really hard for me to take you seriously when i read shit like that from someone who is supposedly hurting for a job.

not just you but alot of folks in that age range are too good for alot of jobs. fastfood? security? labor? any sort of cleaning? those are all jobs for immigrants and poor people right? what if someone sees me in public in my stupid work shirt?!?!!

those jobs aren't cool enough for the kid living at home with zero work experience.

i was grinding out full time jobs in the summer by 14. i got no respect for folks who won't pull up the sleeves and get dirty if need be.

RCubed
04-10-2015, 10:56 AM
Student Border Services Officer (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/job-emploi/student-etudiant/sbso-aesf-eng.html)
CBSA have student positions.

Mr.HappySilp
04-10-2015, 11:22 AM
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/04/vancouver-airport-outlet-mall-job-fair/

You can thank me when you get a job. Since they are opening lot's of new stores the chance of getting hire is much higher.

Mr.HappySilp
04-10-2015, 11:27 AM
when you type shit like "even stocking at costco!"

really hard for me to take you seriously when i read shit like that from someone who is supposedly hurting for a job.

not just you but alot of folks in that age range are too good for alot of jobs. fastfood? security? labor? any sort of cleaning? those are all jobs for immigrants and poor people right? what if someone sees me in public in my stupid work shirt?!?!!

those jobs aren't cool enough for the kid living at home with zero work experience.

i was grinding out full time jobs in the summer by 14. i got no respect for folks who won't pull up the sleeves and get dirty if need be.

To add to the list there are tons of fresh grad who feel they are above everyone and won't even apply for any entry level job coz they got the "Degree". What that attitude good luck find a job. For some reason this generation feels as soon as they graduate they are entitle to a 80k+ job and anything below isn't worth their time. Funny thing is these are the same people who have a degree in general science, history, or some useless shit degree. They need a reality check. Even people who have years and years of experience with master are having a tough time looking for work.

rzrshrp
04-10-2015, 12:12 PM
try pharmacy assistant at london drugs in bretnwood. gf works there and they always seem to have understaffed , and shes quitting in the next week lol

Thanks!

Hey man. I have no advice to give you but just wanted to say that I am legitimately in the same boat as you and the boat seems to be going nowhere. I was extremely depressed and in fact it got quite unhealthy how depressed I was. I came to realize and understand that there had to either be 1) some circumstances that were beyond my control or 2) some component in my application process that I was doing wrong. Or both. I think as university students we perceive life events, short term, on semester basis and long term on a year 1-4 basis so it always feels like a race against [a very little amount of] time. Well anyways with that being said, I decided to listen to people's advice and just keep at it but don't take it too personally. Things have turned out okay for people before us and we can't be as big of misfits as we think we are. This has helped me feel a lot better. We should get a beer.

It's easy to say everything will be better man, but the truth is you have to make things better yourself. Nothing is handed to us, especially in this generation (terrible economy, inflation thru the roof, etc.). You have to work to make it better, which is why I am posting this thread.

If anything, I am glad my job search despair has made someone's day better. LOL. Good luck!

Are you looking for a specific occupation? Some jobs just aren't in high demand. I'm surprised Costco didn't hire you though.

In your interviews, are you telling them that it's a summer job? You have to realize that there might be other candidates they are interviewing that wants to stay in the company longer. Also, make sure you have something to offer that is much better than the other candidates. Positivity comes to mind.

Do you have any skills or experience? Maybe look for a job based on those. If you're not afraid of heavy physical work... I'm pretty sure one of the big chain grocery (superstore, london drugs, etc) will hire stockers.

Lastly, if you've tried all I've mentioned and/or don't possess the experience/skills to get into a specific job, McDonald's or 7/11 are probably your last resort.

Well I don't say specifically that it's a summer job, but I do tell them that I am available F/T during the summer. And that I will get back to them on my fall availability when it approaches but I will be able to do P/T.

send me ur resume, i'll send you in and we can exchange ideas.

Sure, PM me yours! I am still new to this! You can blank out your info obviously and I can help you with what you need to know.

You can try and get your security license and apply for some temporary security jobs.

Hmm good idea.

when you type shit like "even stocking at costco!"

really hard for me to take you seriously when i read shit like that from someone who is supposedly hurting for a job.

not just you but alot of folks in that age range are too good for alot of jobs. fastfood? security? labor? any sort of cleaning? those are all jobs for immigrants and poor people right? what if someone sees me in public in my stupid work shirt?!?!!

those jobs aren't cool enough for the kid living at home with zero work experience.

i was grinding out full time jobs in the summer by 14. i got no respect for folks who won't pull up the sleeves and get dirty if need be.

Are you kidding me right now? What I meant was that even Costco won't hire me... Because I don't think it takes a lot of skill to be a stocker. And if I was "too good" for it I would not have applied for it a month ago. I have worked jobs in labour (including car detailing, etc.).

If you don't have anything positive to contribute then don't post here. Thank you.

Student Border Services Officer (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/job-emploi/student-etudiant/sbso-aesf-eng.html)
CBSA have student positions.

Thanks!

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/04/vancouver-airport-outlet-mall-job-fair/

You can thank me when you get a job. Since they are opening lot's of new stores the chance of getting hire is much higher.

Thanks so much for this brah! I didn't even know until now!

To add to the list there are tons of fresh grad who feel they are above everyone and won't even apply for any entry level job coz they got the "Degree". What that attitude good luck find a job. For some reason this generation feels as soon as they graduate they are entitle to a 80k+ job and anything below isn't worth their time. Funny thing is these are the same people who have a degree in general science, history, or some useless shit degree. They need a reality check. Even people who have years and years of experience with master are having a tough time looking for work.

Well, it would be nice if we put the skills we learn to use (lab techniques, research, etc.). But I see what you are saying. Speaking for myself and my colleagues, none of us feel we are "entitled" to anything. Sure you can apply for any entry level job, but where is that taking you? That is the real question? Is a job at Costco really going to benefit my career that much in the long run, other than to pay my bills?

Thanks for your input though, just please don't generalize this to everyone in the generation because not all of us are like this.

cruz-in
04-10-2015, 01:20 PM
I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lixoph8.jpg

and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/96/40/3496408f01694f7c6a34dca267711f05.jpg


i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

cruz-in
04-10-2015, 01:21 PM
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/04/vancouver-airport-outlet-mall-job-fair/

You can thank me when you get a job. Since they are opening lot's of new stores the chance of getting hire is much higher.

but on the positive note, ^ beat me to it.

Good luck!

Hot Karl
04-10-2015, 01:26 PM
that's the problem right there. you're so naive if you think every job you have is going to be in direct correlation with your career. in your own post you say "we're not all like that" then go onto say why should you even both to work in any job not related to your precious field. the tone and content of your threads on this subject reek of entitlement.

your flippant attitude about paying bills says it all.

if you and or costco think you can't handle stocking shelves, maybe you should aim a little lower for your 2 month job. that's my advice to you since you clearly need the help.

zetazeta
04-10-2015, 01:27 PM
Are you kidding me right now? What I meant was that even Costco won't hire me... Because I don't think it takes a lot of skill to be a stocker. And if I was "too good" for it I would not have applied for it a month ago. I have worked jobs in labour (including car detailing, etc.).

From what I've heard.. Costco is actually pretty competitive to get in since they are a great company to work for and pay very well compared to similar jobs in the industry. When you are desperate for a job to make ends meet, there's no job that's below you. Hell, go apply at McDonalds if that's the only place that'll take you in. I have a friend who had a 3.8 (SFU) GPA and worked at McDonalds for 6 years to make ends meet... He busted his ass there, got multiple promotions, and only left when he landed an amazing job in his field of study during his 4th year. IIRC, even when he was a TA at SFU he still worked p/t at McD's.

Was in the same boat as you during the summer between my 3rd and 4th yr. I had a ton of retail and customer service experience but couldn't land a single job after applying to 20+. It's all a numbers game... sometimes the right resume or availability comes in just when a position is opened.

Funny thing is, I didn't end up getting any of those retail or CSR jobs but a few weeks later I landed an amazing internship at a great company. 3 years later, and I'm now graduated and still with the same company. Don't give up!
Quoting my post from the previous page...

To give you perspective, I had 1+ year of co-op experience (SFU accounting), 1 year of experience in an analytics/evaluator position, 2+ years of retail experience, and 3 years of service experience working as a waiter/bus-boy. On top of that, I had great references and recommendations from all my past employers, various volunteer experiences at SFU, and even a 'best customer service award' at one of my retail jobs. Even with all that, I wasn't able to land a single interview... and a lot of the positions I applied to were minimum wage, dead-end positions.

cruz-in
04-10-2015, 01:38 PM
HERE IS THE ULTIMATE QUESTION :


are you willing to work for minimum wage?

Mr.HappySilp
04-10-2015, 02:09 PM
^^ let's put it this way there are grads then I know who would rather stay home, play games on their parents couch, go window shopping or just stay home and watch TV all day then rather go out get a job and at least earn some money.

Everyone starts of with the entry level job. No one out there is going to pay you 80k+ when you have 0 experience.

rzrshrp
04-10-2015, 02:13 PM
I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lixoph8.jpg

and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/96/40/3496408f01694f7c6a34dca267711f05.jpg


i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

LOL. I am sure I have all of that down! Here's to hoping I will get to that stage soon enough!

but on the positive note, ^ beat me to it.

Good luck!

Thanks, good luck to you too!

From what I've heard.. Costco is actually pretty competitive to get in since they are a great company to work for and pay very well compared to similar jobs in the industry. When you are desperate for a job to make ends meet, there's no job that's below you. Hell, go apply at McDonalds if that's the only place that'll take you in. I have a friend who had a 3.8 (SFU) GPA and worked at McDonalds for 6 years to make ends meet... He busted his ass there, got multiple promotions, and only left when he landed an amazing job in his field of study during his 4th year. IIRC, even when he was a TA at SFU he still worked p/t at McD's.


Quoting my post from the previous page...

To give you perspective, I had 1+ year of co-op experience (SFU accounting), 1 year of experience in an analytics/evaluator position, 2+ years of retail experience, and 3 years of service experience working as a waiter/bus-boy. On top of that, I had great references and recommendations from all my past employers, various volunteer experiences at SFU, and even a 'best customer service award' at one of my retail jobs. Even with all that, I wasn't able to land a single interview... and a lot of the positions I applied to were minimum wage, dead-end positions.

It seems so odd, having all this directly related experience and not hearing anything back, huh? I feel that our approach is probably off if we have the same experience as everyone else. That or our resume format is off. I would love to speak to you about this some more as I am in a similar position as you, except I haven't graduated yet.

HERE IS THE ULTIMATE QUESTION :


are you willing to work for minimum wage?

I do work minimum wage at the moment! It's part-time so I make next to nothing! I want to be able to afford school and other expenses for the year. But overall, I don't mind working for minimum wage!

zetazeta
04-10-2015, 02:18 PM
It seems so odd, having all this directly related experience and not hearing anything back, huh? I feel that our approach is probably off if we have the same experience as everyone else. That or our resume format is off. I would love to speak to you about this some more as I am in a similar position as you, except I haven't graduated yet.

Naw man, theres nothing 'off' about the approach. When it comes to minimum or near minimum wage jobs... just keep applying until you land one. Hopefully your resume and CL if applicable is in good shape.

twitchyzero
04-10-2015, 02:27 PM
when you type shit like "even stocking at costco!"

really hard for me to take you seriously when i read shit like that from someone who is supposedly hurting for a job.

not just you but alot of folks in that age range are too good for alot of jobs. fastfood? security? labor? any sort of cleaning? those are all jobs for immigrants and poor people right? what if someone sees me in public in my stupid work shirt?!?!!

those jobs aren't cool enough for the kid living at home with zero work experience.

i was grinding out full time jobs in the summer by 14. i got no respect for folks who won't pull up the sleeves and get dirty if need be.

I spoke to a client few months ago who was a McD manager and he basically told me fewer teenagers these days are willing to apply for food & beverage positions because they overvalue themselves. Just 10 years back I slaved away part-time for $6.50/hour...so I think they don't realize just how good they have it @ $10.25.

Good luck to OP...I didn't get hired during a Costco summer intake during my college years and I remember being choked about it too. It will all work out but don't be afraid to keep on with the min wage job for the time being. Why not look for on-campus jobs?

dachinesedude
04-10-2015, 02:41 PM
package handler at fedex/UPS/DHL is always a good bet if you are willing to put in the physical work, the turnover rate is pretty high

and dont think of it as just a labour job, work there long enough and you will be able to choose to do non-physical tasks like data processing or QA

they usually throw in the new guys to do the most physical stuff but you wont have to do it for long term

Fafine
04-10-2015, 02:59 PM
thought places like starbucks or lordco (driver position) is always hiring.
bet if you submitted an application to lordco back when you started hunting, you'd have a job with them by now lol

mr_chin
04-10-2015, 07:25 PM
Well, it would be nice if we put the skills we learn to use (lab techniques, research, etc.). But I see what you are saying. Speaking for myself and my colleagues, none of us feel we are "entitled" to anything. Sure you can apply for any entry level job, but where is that taking you? That is the real question? Is a job at Costco really going to benefit my career that much in the long run, other than to pay my bills?

Thanks for your input though, just please don't generalize this to everyone in the generation because not all of us are like this.

Entry level jobs give you work experience and experience on the skills you've learned in school. It's not a job that gets you anywhere, but a job to put a start you in that direction. And think of it as a job to just get by the summer. Like you said, you're only looking for a summer job, you're not going to expect something like a manager position or a $60,000/year position. That wouldn't be a summer job.

I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lixoph8.jpg

and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/96/40/3496408f01694f7c6a34dca267711f05.jpg


i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

The hygiene part I can understand but the socially awkward I think can be an exception. Some people just don't get all outgoing and comfortable the first time they meet. And going to an interview is not easy for some people especially when they're being blasted with questions (some are more like interrogation), so that part needs to be understood.

If the person being interviewed isn't a jackass and has the skills and knowledge to complete his tasks, I think that qualifies for it. Unless you're hiring for a customer service or anything that deals with customer, then socially awkward is a big no no.

Getting off topic, sorry.

6793026
04-10-2015, 09:53 PM
as per cruz-in... i have pros and cons on what you said.

Sometimes as a manager, you're epic good at what you do, but you CAN'T expect everything you hire to be like you. There will always be those 8-5 workers that just AREN"T awesome in an interview, nerds, losers, emo etc.... but you still have to hire them.


separate story. I see a lot of teens, when you proactively want to help them, they actually say "ok, just call me"
i'm like dude, I'm reaching out and going out of my way cause you wanted help, and you're just brushing me off as if I owe it to you.

back 20 yrs ago, i would have been proactive and even wrote a thank you card and called as a thank you. Now... teens are like.... oh sure, if u want to help me, text me... wtf...

Mr.HappySilp
04-11-2015, 08:43 AM
I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lixoph8.jpg

and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/96/40/3496408f01694f7c6a34dca267711f05.jpg


i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

We are hiring now and some of the people we interview are pretty funny.

1st guy was ask what happens if he have got a call from a customer who was angry and was swearing. His answer " I will just transfer the call to another agent or hang up." sorry buddy but that's the worse answer you got give.

2nd guy we ask "What would you do if you come home and your mother told you Internet isn't working?"
His answer..... wait 10secs with a blank look on his face "I don't live with my parents I live alone...."
We ask "Pretend you live with your mother."
2nd guy... " I am not sure what you mean by that I live alone....."

Both of them didn't get the job. I guess is too much to ask for common sense these days........ and these questions are so simple anyone with half a brain could come up with a correct answer.

nsx042003
04-12-2015, 06:49 PM
well to make op happy, people with experience like myself, have a hard time landing a job in BC. If i didn't like here so much, i would've moved already, given the shitty job market right now. I'm out since September. Still looking.

Just keep searching, there's always something if you are willing to do.

mr_chin
04-13-2015, 03:45 AM
well to make op happy, people with experience like myself, have a hard time landing a job in BC. If i didn't like here so much, i would've moved already, given the shitty job market right now. I'm out since September. Still looking.

Just keep searching, there's always something if you are willing to do.

What's so good about Vancouver? I can name so many bad's more than good's about Vancouver. If it wasn't for family, I'd move somewhere else, and it definitely won't be a city.

Neoxphuse
04-13-2015, 05:12 AM
I graduated from BCIT (this was over a decade ago) and couldn't land a job in the industry I went to school for. This really deflated me, but I went and worked for a grocery store stocking guy for about 8 months, and then quit that and went with being a gas station clerk for over a year. Just from doing that and communicating with the daily customers, one guy gave me pretty good delivery job but it was very tiresome. After a couple years there, I ended up landing a job within the industry. 7 years after that I'm with a municipality.

Sometimes it takes awhile to get where you want to go. But don't fear, the opportunity will come you just have to keep going at it.

Presto
04-13-2015, 11:10 AM
When you have little or no work experience, you take those min-wage jobs. There's always something to learn, even when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. I knew what I wanted to do after high school, but I had to embark on a journey of gaining experience and networking to accomplish my career goal.

Have a pro write up a resume for you. That first impression means getting spam binned, or an interview.

Neoxphuse
04-13-2015, 12:24 PM
When you have little or no work experience, you take those min-wage jobs. There's always something to learn, even when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. I knew what I wanted to do after high school, but I had to embark on a journey of gaining experience and networking to accomplish my career goal.

Have a pro write up a resume for you. That first impression means getting spam binned, or an interview.


I actually found working as a cashier clerk at a gas station was invaluable. Definitely helped me with my communication skills. I got better talking to people openly, and being able to understand and reading some situations. It may seem like nothing when landing a min-wage job, but it definitely give more character.

kalekain
04-21-2015, 11:06 PM
When you have no experience, taking a min-wage job is like getting paid to learn.

Mining
04-23-2015, 12:05 AM
I graduated from BCIT (this was over a decade ago) and couldn't land a job in the industry I went to school for. This really deflated me, but I went and worked for a grocery store stocking guy for about 8 months, and then quit that and went with being a gas station clerk for over a year. Just from doing that and communicating with the daily customers, one guy gave me pretty good delivery job but it was very tiresome. After a couple years there, I ended up landing a job within the industry. 7 years after that I'm with a municipality.

Sometimes it takes awhile to get where you want to go. But don't fear, the opportunity will come you just have to keep going at it.

That is great and all and we can all learn something from this. However, 7 fucking years to get into the industry you went to school for? Jesus Christ... grocery store stocking > gas station clerk > delivery.

brutal.

6793026
04-23-2015, 08:36 PM
^ Wouldn't wish this upon anyone but you might end up in the same way....

Gucci Mane
04-23-2015, 09:24 PM
That is great and all and we can all learn something from this. However, 7 fucking years to get into the industry you went to school for? Jesus Christ... grocery store stocking > gas station clerk > delivery.

brutal.

not sure of how old you are or what you do for a living but thats what we adults call the "real world". its just the way it goes sometimes. not everyone will come out of college with a job in their perspective fields. sometimes it may take a year or two or seven..

Inaii
04-23-2015, 09:37 PM
All depends on the industry you're trying to break into. Some industries are oversaturated with people (ie. Graphic Design, my chosen industry). I graduated in 2006 and still have yet to land a full time job (I work as freelance) because of how many people there are looking for GD jobs in Vancouver. It's also an extremely competetive and subjective market.

Mining
04-23-2015, 11:05 PM
not sure of how old you are or what you do for a living but thats what we adults call the "real world". its just the way it goes sometimes. not everyone will come out of college with a job in their perspective fields. sometimes it may take a year or two or seven..

Life can't be all sunshine and rainbows I suppose. But 7 years is brutal man, no matter how you look at it (especially given his journey).

#LifeStruggles

Neoxphuse
05-02-2015, 05:44 AM
That is great and all and we can all learn something from this. However, 7 fucking years to get into the industry you went to school for? Jesus Christ... grocery store stocking > gas station clerk > delivery.

brutal.

Sorry, I wrote this wrong. Took me more about 3 years to get into the industry, 7 years as a tech before I got a job with the city.

Neoxphuse
05-02-2015, 05:45 AM
But either way; however long it takes you, no one should be discouraged. That's not the point. It's the journey and experiences along the way that makes the path to the person who you are.