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DJ Milk
06-07-2015, 10:23 PM
I might want to get one but not sure what to look for.

What is the best one on the market right now? cost? camera, gps, etc. TIA

meme405
06-07-2015, 10:41 PM
What do you want one for?

What's your purpose with it? Do you want to shoot films, or do you just want a toy to play with?

DJ Milk
06-07-2015, 10:44 PM
I want to make destination type videos so I can add it to my youtube channel. Videos of parks, tourist places, landmarks, stuff like that.

godwin
06-07-2015, 10:48 PM
DJI is probably the best in the market... I suggest an Inspire 1

The thing I like them is there are plenty of spare parts from different manufacturers that are compatible with DJi.

One thing about them is get plenty of batteries.. you will need them. It take quite a while (roughly an hour) to charge each one which last about 15 minutes on a good day.

Tim Budong
06-07-2015, 11:14 PM
The Inspire1 is so baller
hows the phantom?

Hehe
06-07-2015, 11:48 PM
It depends on what you want to do. There's a new one coming on market (Lily) that would follow you around once thrown on the air. It's pretty cool.

Tim Budong
06-08-2015, 12:06 AM
I've always wanted a drone

DJI phantoms are so affordable
especially in asia

v_tec
06-08-2015, 12:09 AM
It depends on what you want to do. There's a new one coming on market (Lily) that would follow you around once thrown on the air. It's pretty cool.

Too bad that one doesn't have avoidance detection. Unless you're in a open park / ocean, chances are it will fly into something.

Manic!
06-08-2015, 01:49 AM
I am a part of a makerspace and one of our members builds drones. The second one he build he used the 3D printer we have for the airframe. The thing is ridiculously fast. First flight he crashed it into a lamp post. He just reprinted the part and it was flying again in no time. He is working on a kit with another member who owns BCrobotics.com . The cost should be around $350 plus 3d printed parts.

Autorice
06-08-2015, 02:54 AM
specs on the drone? I browsed around bcrobotics.com and couldn't find it. $350 that is similar to a phantom (and maybe an arm for a gopro) would be sweet.

Mr.Money
06-08-2015, 03:56 AM
just a warning...but i heard of too many fly aways from DJI phantoms....like completely having a mind of its own and going 100's of feet in the air and crashing down to little parts.:heckno:

Google it,i looked at it last year and don't know if they fixed the problem yet...They sure didn't want to own up to it and said it was User error yet it was all over forums . :rukidding:

Vansterdam
06-08-2015, 05:52 AM
I really want this one

https://youtu.be/iMfTHHLbj5g

Reeyal
06-08-2015, 07:47 AM
A little off topic, but these are cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEvzDSOAfH0

thumper
06-08-2015, 08:21 AM
i was at burnaby hobbies last week and there was a customer asking about drones as a newbie, and the shop was walking him through their inventory of starter drones to full out racing versions... freaking fast:

https://youtu.be/8A3pGJi_ih8

twitchyzero
06-08-2015, 01:24 PM
I've done quite a bit of research on the topic the past month.

the Lily is going to be kinda useless because battery is not removable...that means you better get the nice shots you want within 15-20 minutes.

Phantom 3 just came out and has been getting really great reviews, but DJI's customer service is notorious for being non-responsive and when you buy a $1k+ toy that's kinda important...esp with the horror stories of flyaways. The demand for them has been really high and the value is quite terrific.

I pre-ordered the new drone from 3D Robotics which has some great features like virtual cable cam, orbit, follow-me, full GoPro controls and live HDMI output.

BTW GoPro is currently developing their own drones

Manic!
06-08-2015, 03:01 PM
specs on the drone? I browsed around bcrobotics.com and couldn't find it. $350 that is similar to a phantom (and maybe an arm for a gopro) would be sweet.

They are still working on the kit so it's not on the site yet. The best thing is it is completely Customizable. Being a kit you put together you will know how to fix it when you break it. We had a guy bring in a DJI Phantom that he had crashed. We tried to fix it but it still was not 100% when he took it back.

Lomac
06-08-2015, 03:41 PM
I'm quite intrigued by the 3DR Solo. Would love to see one in action first, though. Been debating buying a proper quadcopter for a while now and I'm glad to see that they've been progressively getting better and better.

Tim Budong
06-08-2015, 06:28 PM
the 3DR is something Im more interested in
seems to be a better product than DJI...
I unno I was sold quicker on that one video than the DJI

twitchyzero
06-08-2015, 09:37 PM
they released their gimbal footage few days ago
pre-production model...unedited hence still fisheyed
needs to be rigorously tested in moderate wind conditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkmI1lyCVlQ&feature=youtu.be

godwin
06-08-2015, 10:32 PM
I still prefer DJI especially in terms of volume, you will at least get firmware upgrades. Drones is still in the hobbyist stage, there will be a lot of churn in companies. I would like to see what GoPro comes out next. Also remember if you are going to do FPV etc, make sure the accompanied app is at least decent.

I am considering getting the Matrice 100 (http://makezine.com/2015/06/08/dji-matrice-quadcopter-built-hacking/). Just to do some more modifications and make add ons. Having the CAN bus exposed make debugging so much easier (I am building a control logging module). The only thing I doesn't sit well with me is screw down terminals sucks for things that are in motion.

Also remember the LiPo battery density is not that great.. so scale down your expectations that you can fly for more than 30 minutes etc.

As for DJi repairs. Nearly the parts can be ordered (you can literally order enough parts to build one yourself).

Compared with other Chinese companies.. I don't think DJI is that bad. They couriered parts took a few days but it was free.

KDMofo
06-08-2015, 11:32 PM
If you're going to shoot production style film go for 6+ rotors. Otherwise 4 rotors are the most fun. DJI manufactures the best setups for a beginner but you're not going to have fun at all. Best flight I've had was from Horizons on burnaby mountain to the rock in deep cove.

http://i.imgur.com/vn6W58K.jpg

Ulic Qel-Droma
06-08-2015, 11:59 PM
check this thing out:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/350745213/krossblade-skyprowler-vtol-transformer-uav

lol blows every other drone outta the water LOL!

look at the specs... awesome.

Ulic Qel-Droma
06-09-2015, 12:03 AM
i was doing some research...

i duno how this actually performs... but it seems good and cheap vs the competition for what you get:

STORM Drone 8 GPS Flying Platform - HeliPal (http://www.helipal.com/storm-drone-8-gps-flying-platform.html)

8 rotor drone.



i was also thinking... once they have graphene drones... they would be SO fucking light and so fast.... 3d printed graphene drones.

anyway... can any drone expert tell me if that storm drone 8 looks decent? i couldnt find any reviews... but it seems like the best bang for your buck... the size, the rotors, the .. everything you get seems way better bang for your buck than any of the bigger corp drones

Reeyal
06-09-2015, 07:14 AM
check this thing out:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/350745213/krossblade-skyprowler-vtol-transformer-uav

lol blows every other drone outta the water LOL!

look at the specs... awesome.

Whoa, that thing is awesome. $2k price tag though :rukidding:

godwin
06-09-2015, 09:30 AM
The thing is DJI higher end and other CF based drones like self built 6 - 8 copters are light and strong already. (even fiber glass / plastic of lower end ones are pretty light but they tend to shatter). The limiting factor is the batteries. Graphene doesn't solve the energy density problem (your copter have to lift the weight of the battery, so far no one came up with the idea of dropping depleted batteries while in flight).

If you want anything more than 4 rotors.. do a self built one.. just don't be stupid like Enrique Iglesias and stick your fingers in them because they will cut your fingers, especially anything with 6 or more rotors.

Remember drones are basically RC copters that are software programmable, you should be able to have way points etc. A lot of the ones on the market aren't even capable of the basic functions so they are just RC toys. So adjust your expectations. Honestly I would making a decent drone is not easy and first batch will always be buggy. I would avoid any kickstarter type projects, unless you are ready for disappointment.



i was also thinking... once they have graphene drones... they would be SO fucking light and so fast.... 3d printed graphene drones.

akira112
06-09-2015, 11:35 AM
Stop trying to look through your neighbours window snoop. :awwyeah:

Ulic Qel-Droma
06-09-2015, 03:25 PM
The thing is DJI higher end and other CF based drones like self built 6 - 8 copters are light and strong already. (even fiber glass / plastic of lower end ones are pretty light but they tend to shatter). The limiting factor is the batteries. Graphene doesn't solve the energy density problem (your copter have to lift the weight of the battery, so far no one came up with the idea of dropping depleted batteries while in flight).

dude i dont think u understand how much lighter and stronger graphene is compared to anything on the market right now.

its like... fuckin super strong dude. and super light.

u could have a drone made of graphene, and the graphene would only be as thin as like .. half the width of a credit card. and the rotors and everything made of graphene. and it would be stronger than a sheet of steel. and it would be ... like.. lighter than a big paper airplane.

the only weight would be the battery.

godwin
06-09-2015, 03:53 PM
You do realize commercialization of graphene is still decades away.. you will see it in F1 cars first why before it appears in $2000 drones.

Right now the weigh of the high end structures is already pretty light. It is the motors, gimbal and camera (other than batteries that takes up the weight). We still haven't got graphene motors (not sure we can).

dude i dont think u understand how much lighter and stronger graphene is compared to anything on the market right now.

its like... fuckin super strong dude. and super light.

u could have a drone made of graphene, and the graphene would only be as thin as like .. half the width of a credit card. and the rotors and everything made of graphene. and it would be stronger than a sheet of steel. and it would be ... like.. lighter than a big paper airplane.

the only weight would be the battery.

KDMofo
06-10-2015, 12:00 AM
dude i dont think u understand how much lighter and stronger graphene is compared to anything on the market right now.

its like... fuckin super strong dude. and super light.

u could have a drone made of graphene, and the graphene would only be as thin as like .. half the width of a credit card. and the rotors and everything made of graphene. and it would be stronger than a sheet of steel. and it would be ... like.. lighter than a big paper airplane.

the only weight would be the battery.

Graphene is highly conductive, same reason using carbon fibre is a stupid idea, especially for distant/high altitude flying. Sure saving weight is great but locking yourself out is worst. If you want endurance get a plane.

Ulic Qel-Droma
06-10-2015, 12:40 PM
what about a really light FPV racer? LOL

im more interested in that!

KDMofo
06-10-2015, 12:53 PM
what about a really light FPV racer? LOL

im more interested in that!

When. For proximity/fast flights you'll want to have 360 coverage and no room for shadowing because of the constant banking and rolls. I've never used 2.4ghz for that type of flying either, just because there will probably be trees/obstacles blocking signal.

Tim Budong
06-24-2015, 03:10 AM
was talking to a client about drones today
he says his brand new phantom3 basically stopped working on him mid air and crashed.. dji replaced it quickly tho...

so scared cuz im gonna be buying a phantom3 within the next 60days here....
can't find the 3dr solo here in asia yet either....

Razor Ramon HG
06-24-2015, 05:06 AM
My former boss got headhunted for 3DR (he's now the VP) and he recently shared a video of them on CBS This Morning on FB. Apparently Best Buy will be stocking them in the States (not sure about Canada).

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/home-promotions/3dr-solo/pcmcat382500050006.c?id=pcmcat382500050006&ref=201&loc=7

Tim Budong
06-24-2015, 08:08 AM
My former boss got headhunted for 3DR (he's now the VP) and he recently shared a video of them on CBS This Morning on FB. Apparently Best Buy will be stocking them in the States (not sure about Canada).

3DR Solo Drone: Solo Smart Drone - Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/home-promotions/3dr-solo/pcmcat382500050006.c?id=pcmcat382500050006&ref=201&loc=7)

London drugs will carry in canada...or at least all the way from vancouver to manitoba

twitchyzero
06-30-2015, 09:41 PM
thanks to London Drugs for keeping their pre-order fulfillment by June!
just finished updating , didn't want to do night time flying on my first go so I'll try it tmr

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/11536433_10155816093430437_8828415123295396531_o.j pg