[alex.w *//]

My car is due for front pads and rotors

Asked the dealer and it will cost around $300 for pads and rotors

While lordco has economy set that would cost $150

My question is will the economy ones be ok on the car or start giving issues after 6 months

[mb_]

What car? What kind of driving do you do?

[Bonka]

Never had issues using cheap rotors on all my cars but cheap pads are crap for stopping power and bite.

I generally prefer OEM pads unless they are euro they seem to dust a hell of a lot other members would be more familiar.

Akebono pads are good but they suck for bite the first 5-10mins.

[alex.w *//]

What car? What kind of driving do you do?

2004 acura el, just normal daily driving

[Inaii]

What was the "economy" options they gave you? If it was the lordco rotors, pay the extra $$ and get the aimco or acdelco ones. Lordco rotors are shit.

[The_AK]

2004 acura el, just normal daily driving

Think of it this way, economy pads and rotors are for our mothers driving. Anything beyond that you'd want something better.

[SpuGen]

Napa Blanks + Porterfield R4's

[46_valentinor]

people track with ebay rotors all the time and they last just as well as oem rotors. I would say spend as little as possible on rotors and spend more on better pads. my ebay rotors has been on my car for almost 3 years and it has no problems whatsoever. Can't beat rotors for all four corners for only 100usd LOL.

[Traum]

I wouldn't completely cheap out on rotors -- the junky ones are still quite prone to warping and hot spots. However, you definitely don't have to pay that much to get good quality rotors. I have been a long time fan of Centric blanks -- they are inexpensive, but still of very good quality. Mine regularly see both street and track conditions without a hitch.

Pads, on the other hand, is very much a you-get-what-you-pay-for type of thing. At least, this has been true in my experience.

[fliptuner]

+1 Centric blanks

Want to save money? Get decent parts and DIY.

[jcmaz]

Buy from the States instead. I think I saved close to 100-150 dollars by purchasing Centric Premium versus buying local.

[twitchyzero]

people track with ebay rotors all the time and they last just as well as oem rotors. I would say spend as little as possible on rotors and spend more on better pads. my ebay rotors has been on my car for almost 3 years and it has no problems whatsoever. Can't beat rotors for all four corners for only 100usd LOL.

for a typical honda you can find brand names like raybestos on rockauto for even cheaper than that

i've broken-in my akebono proacts properly, is it normal to get a real bite right before the vehicle comes to a complete stop? Only the lightest of feather light braking prevents this, even at say 20% pedal down I'd get a light jerk right before the car is stationary. May be I just miss the smooth gentle stops of worn brakes. FailFish

[6o4__boi]

yup centric is good, i've used it in the past for my previous daily's
i've got stoptech rotors and advics pads on my teg atm and so far so good after 3 years.

i'll probably go with centric and akebono when they're due

[SumAznGuy]

I used $40 cheap china rotors on the fronts of my S for track duties and never had any issues with them.
This was with Hawk HT10 pads and R-comp tires at Mission.

The last track day, I used cheap $20 china rotors on the front of my CRX with Hawk Blue pads and didn't have any issues.

As long as they aren't slotted or drilled, most blank rotors will be fine.

But definately don't cheap out on the pads.
I got cheap Raybesto's $19 brake shoes for the CRV and first stop they make a lot of noise. But then again, this is on the rear which isn't nearly as important as it is on the fronts.

[european]

PowerSlot + Hawk PC + Spoon

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Just get some good Hawk pads and blank EBC rotors and install it yourself if you are able.

[smoothie.]

stoptech rotors are under the centric brand IIRC.

I paid around $90usd per rotor for slotted stoptech, how much cheaper are the centric blanks?

[Traum]

stoptech rotors are under the centric brand IIRC.

I paid around $90usd per rotor for slotted stoptech, how much cheaper are the centric blanks?
The centric blanks that I use can typically be found for $35 front, $25 rear on Amazon.com.

[jing]

Thoughts on standard Centric vs the "premium" rotors? Nearly double the cost for anti-rust

[thumper]

the mechanic i used to go to told me that the absolute cheapest rotor he would use is centric, otherwise it's a normal brembo blank for regular cars. people would come in and ask for the cheapest possible so he would get them cut-rate chinese brand and they would come back later complaining about rusting and warping, so he stopped. he would rather lose a sale than have to deal with unhappy customers.

[BoostedBB6]

Brakes......buy the best you can afford to buy. Its rather simple really.

With cheap stuff you can take a risk. I have seen defects in cheap stuff that resulted in rotors separating.

[PK-EK]

White box (cheap cheap cheap) rotors and OEM pads

this is what i've been doing for 6 years.
I've worked at the dealer and a private shop

Even budget track guys use the cheap rotors on nice pads.

no problems

[BoostedBB6]

http://www.brakeandfrontend.com/wp-content/uploads/Articles/10_01_2008/TTraybestos1LOj_00000014771.jpg

Seen this happen with super cheap stuff from ebay.
Never seen it happen with the cheap stuff from the local parts stores.

[westopher]

Brakes and tires are not something I'd use anything less than the best. you pay 1500+ a year for insurance. Paying an extra couple hundred over several years for accident prevention is my idea of money well spent.

[PK-EK]

Wanna hear something funny.
Brembo Blanks are made in China

[Traum]

Wanna hear something funny.
Brembo Blanks are made in China
If memory serves me correctly, the Centric blanks that I keep raving about are also made in China as well.

I know it is fairly common for people to bash and shxt on Chinese made products -- heck, I do my fair share of that myself. But what people need to realize is, China makes a lot of stuff. A lot of that stuff is shxt I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole. But it also makes a lot of top quality stuff. The difference lies in who the mother company is that commissioned the manufacturing, and how stringent and thorough they are with QC.

From various anecdotal evidence that I have gathered, it certainly seems like the Chinese made Brembo blanks aren't that good. I wouldn't call them shxt yet, but it seems like their quality used to be better.

[BoostedBB6]

Yes, Brembo blanks are made in China, but they are made to Brembo standards. They have to meet TUV and DOT standards. The same factory that makes the Brembo blanks also makes a no name, cheap line that has no DOT/TUV testing.

I know this because I was formerly a rep from Brembo in North America and have been to there factories in Italy.

Made in China is not the problem, its the standards that the products meet. A lot of the eBay stuff is simply made using cheap material. Most of them will work, but do you really want to risk your life on some dirt cheap rotors? Spend $20 more each and get the cheap stuff from local suppliers. If they fail then you have an option for return/exchange/warranty.

[thumper]

are there still fake brembo parts still floating around on fleabay?

[BoostedBB6]

Always will be.

At one trade show I went to there was an "asian" section of all the parts suppliers from China and surrounding areas that offered products. They knocked off everything.
Some of there products were hilarious. There was a line called Blembo.....needless to say my bosses were not pleased to find out about that but I had a good chuckle.

Brembo is good about cracking down on fakes, but there are just to many places knoking stuff off that they cant touch.

[PK-EK]

I think we all agree that the cheap rotors are Lordco/Vancouver Auto Parts/Pacific Parts are fine.

Just don't cheap out on the brake pads

[tinico]

I think we all agree that the cheap rotors are Lordco/Vancouver Auto Parts/Pacific Parts are fine.

Just don't cheap out on the brake pads

+1

Cheap rotors + good pads
That's how I roll since 2004

[godwin]

If you guys care about braking performance, do flush your brake fluid while you are at it.

[Hehe]

As many have already mentioned, when it comes to tires and brakes, use the best within your budget. They are the last thing on a car you want to cheap out on.

If you search hard enough, you might find some US seller selling good sets (as in pads+rotor) or kit for cheap.

I remember when I got my Mini, and while randomly looking performance part online, I found a complete set (everything) of Brembo drilled kit for just under 2k, regular priced elsewhere for 3k+.

[lowda9]

I recently ordered 17 dollar front rotors from rockauto. They work fine.

[tiger_handheld]

i've never been able to match pads with rotors. I always seem to get squeeking noise and the only way i was able to stop that was to get the shitty pads from Lordco to go with my shitty rotors from Oreally.

This time I'm looking for a 'matching set' that will work well.

The Hawk HPS and Akibono names have come across. Same as Worldpac. I have no idea on any of these brands! For rotors they are Pilenga.

Any of heard of these brands?!

[shenmecar]

Brake Kits - OE Replacement Kits (http://maxbrakes.com/c-928988-brake-kits-oe-replacement-kits.html)

I've personally used brake rotors + pads from this company. They're actually not bad. After the break in, they feel just like any OEM pads + rotors. Free shipping from Ontario. Email and ask them for CAD pricing though.

[SumAznGuy]

The Hawk HPS

Hawk is the brand, very good pads but are very dusty.
HPS is their street pads. OEM replacement but a lot dustier than OEM.
Less than OEM braking power and easier to get brake fade vs OEM.
I'd stay away from those pads.

Brembo drilled kit for just under 2k, regular priced elsewhere for 3k+.

I'd stay away from drilled/slotted rotors.
Save some $$$ and stick with the blanks.

[BoostedBB6]

Drilled/Slotted rotors will DECREASE breaking efficiency unless you also increase the rotor size to compensate.
Whenever you drill or slot a rotor you are removing surface area and that means less friction generated. They only aid in cooling of the brakes to fight fade.
Unless you are doing some SERIOUS track driving, or use your brakes to the point where heat dissipation of a stock blank is surpassed, there is no reason to use a slotted or drilled rotor other than for a look.

[asian_XL]

We had local cheap pads on the C230K, it squeals like no one and horrible grip. At the end, I paid much more to have them all replaced with better pads.

Like other said drilled rotors are not good for daily driver.

[Gh0stRider]

i need to do my rotors and pads very soon.

shop suggested Hawk HPS, but i know they dust quite a bit. would the hawk ceramic pads be a better choice?

i can't decide on rotors.

[westopher]

Hawk is the brand, very good pads but are very dusty.
HPS is their street pads. OEM replacement but a lot dustier than OEM.
Less than OEM braking power and easier to get brake fade vs OEM.
I'd stay away from those pads.

Those don't sound like very good pads. I haven't heard good things about hawk pads from many people.

[bcrdukes]

Track noobs love them lol

[fliptuner]

dukes only likes his pads 1 way

organic

[J____]

hawk/akebono pads. Great stopping power with no noise or dust

[SumAznGuy]

hawk/akebono pads. Great stopping power with no noise or dust

ALL Hawk pads will be dusty. I've used HP+, HT10, Blues, DT30, and truck ones and they are all dusty as heck.

Those don't sound like very good pads. I haven't heard good things about hawk pads from many people.

It's just the HPS pads which were meant to be more the OEM replacement type pads. They call it sport, but for the price of them, I would stick to OEM.
This was on my B15 non Brembo SE-R.

After that, I've only used HP+ for the street/autoX and HT10 on the track with the S2000 and ITR.
Currently, the Shitvic has DT30's and the CRX is running track and DD duties with Hawk Blue's. :heckno:

[tinico]

i've never been able to match pads with rotors. I always seem to get squeeking noise and the only way i was able to stop that was to get the shitty pads from Lordco to go with my shitty rotors from Oreally.

This time I'm looking for a 'matching set' that will work well.

...

A "matching set " will not stop the squealing. (example: race cars)
In my experience: metallic pads have close to 100% chance of squealing due to metallic particles in the pads, the cheap stuff you bought were probably organic brake pads (those don"t last long). if you want something with good performance/life and quiet but a little more expensive go for ceramic brake pads.

squealing can also be caused by debris(rocs/sand) caught in the pad

for fun go to your autoparts ask to see the different pads they have for your vehicle you will see the difference in the braking compound

but remember if switching out pads there is a break in procedure included in the box usually.
if changing compound type I suggest replacing the rotors also or have yours cut if they have good life left,cuz the compound from the previous pads might not make your new ones function 100%, but that is just to get the job done perfectly.

[Grim]

i used ebay rotor with dtc60 on mission before.
originally the rotor had slots..
after one mission day, they became blank... not sure if it was the rotor being cheaply made due to material or the dtc60 just chews through rotors quick.

but all in all the rotor held up.
i got brembo blanks now for mission, and i use the ebay rotor with some cheapy pads for daily.
not hard to stop the car if you only go 60km city driving :P

[SumAznGuy]

after one mission day, they became blank... not sure if it was the rotor being cheaply made due to material or the dtc60 just chews through rotors quick.

Only real way to tell is pull out to measure the rotor thickness vs a new rotor.
That being said, the DTC60's race pads are very hard on rotors when they are cold so it is possible that the rotors wore down quite a bit from the pads being cold.

[Timpo]

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Dude, just go to Canadian Tire: Auto Parts | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/autoparts.html)

I did a favor and searched for your Acura EL.

Front Brake Rotor
$29

Certified Brake Rotor - Front | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/certified-brake-rotor-front-0163000p.0169669.html#.VYImPflViko)

Brake Pads
$44

ATE PremiumOne Ceramic Brake Pads - Front | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ate-premiumone-ceramic-brake-pads-front-1132604p.1132643.html#.VYImhflViko)

[Timpo]

Drilled/Slotted rotors will DECREASE breaking efficiency unless you also increase the rotor size to compensate.
Whenever you drill or slot a rotor you are removing surface area and that means less friction generated. They only aid in cooling of the brakes to fight fade.
Unless you are doing some SERIOUS track driving, or use your brakes to the point where heat dissipation of a stock blank is surpassed, there is no reason to use a slotted or drilled rotor other than for a look.

Drilled/slotted rotors aren't always good.

Just look at McLaren P1's Akebono brakes.
http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/McLaren_P1_Wheel-668.jpg

Toyota Brembo Formula 1 Brakes
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--izqAsVRP--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1139118969972846437.jpg

[Timpo]

some brakes had big drilled holes
http://viper.dragtimes.com/img/wheelsbrakes.jpg
http://photos4.automanager.com/012359/9889922cc40eb94d94ba8e484a2e95de/285555888e_640.jpg
http://www.wilwood.com/Images/BrakeKits/BrakeKit_Photos-Large/brake_kit_140-13345-DR-lg.jpg

in comparison, modern exotic cars don't drill huge holes..

Bugatti Veyron
http://i43.tinypic.com/11w35nq.jpg

LaFerrari
http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/44048594+w+h+q80+re0+cr1+ar0+st0/2014-ferrari-laferrari-front-brake.jpg

[Timpo]

Drilled/Slotted rotors will DECREASE breaking efficiency unless you also increase the rotor size to compensate.
Whenever you drill or slot a rotor you are removing surface area and that means less friction generated. They only aid in cooling of the brakes to fight fade.
Unless you are doing some SERIOUS track driving, or use your brakes to the point where heat dissipation of a stock blank is surpassed, there is no reason to use a slotted or drilled rotor other than for a look.

actually, somebody said that drilled holes keep rotors clean from brake dusts too..

[multicartual]

99.9% of how a car is put together is for looks

Life is a giant dick-swinging contest

Ferrari owners in Vancouver drive them to Bubble tea and to class, rarely exceeding 110 kph

Seriously fuck your Acura TL

[Gh0stRider]

how are Ferodo pads?

[Akinari]

in comparison, modern exotic cars don't drill huge holes..

Bugatti Veyron

http://i43.tinypic.com/11w35nq.jpg

LaFerrari
http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/44048594+w+h+q80+re0+cr1+ar0+st0/2014-ferrari-laferrari-front-brake.jpg
That's because those are carbon ceramics. Has nothing to do with modernity...:facepalm:

[Traum]

how are Ferodo pads?
Ferodo DS2500 is a very good trackable street pad. Fantastic initial bite as well as sustained brake torque during extended use. I still overwhelmingly prefer the modulation feel of Carbotech 1521 over the Ferodo, but that preference is definitely an acquired taste.

The DS2500 dust like crazy though. So keep that in mind. But hey, unlike the Hawk HPS, at least you are getting some good braking performance out of them!

[Timpo]

That's because those are carbon ceramics. Has nothing to do with modernity...:facepalm:

ok WTF is this? It's drilled but not ventilated :suspicious:

http://gtrlife.com/forums/uploads/e0474c8341d59fd5dad268b9ab5e3ae9.jpg

[westopher]

how are Ferodo pads?
They stop fast, turn your wheels black and make everyone at every intersection think you are driving a bus until they look at you.
I like to stop fast.:fuckyea:

[Akinari]

ok WTF is this? It's drilled but not ventilated :suspicious:

http://gtrlife.com/forums/uploads/e0474c8341d59fd5dad268b9ab5e3ae9.jpg
Also carbon ceramic...:rukidding:

Anyone have any experience with EBC Green Stuff? Have heard good things about them for heavier vehicles (reduced dust, good bite) for everyday street use. Will probably switch to them whenever my current pads need changing.

[Kalize]

Also carbon ceramic...:rukidding:

Anyone have any experience with EBC Green Stuff? Have heard good things about them for heavier vehicles (reduced dust, good bite) for everyday street use. Will probably switch to them whenever my current pads need changing.

Never used the green stuff but the yellows worked really well on my pathfinder; stopped way better than OEM. I had drums in the back as well.

[mb_]

how are Ferodo pads?

Really happy with DS2500. So far, can only comment on street and autocross driving. Good bite, dust is less than I thought (might have something to do with the stock FRS wheels being a darker color). It does squeal but it's not so bad like Hawk HP+. Paired with OEM rotors.