[Traum]

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/06/racist-rant-truck-richmond/


Racist rant spotted written on truck in Richmond
BY LAUREN SUNDSTROM
8:16 AM PDT, SUN JUNE 14, 2015

http://assets.vancitybuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/rsz_racist_rant-984x500.jpg

Sometimes it’s hard to have faith in humanity. This is one of those moments.

A white Dodge Ram pickup truck was spotted in Richmond with a racist rant scrawled on the tailgate.

It reads:

“Say no to China crap. They poisoned their own people for profits. Do you think they care about us? Protect ourselves and our economy.

If you’re offended by this, you should not be in this country.”

The image is on Imgur and was tipped off to us by a reader.

Chinese foreign investment in local real estate has become a hot topic in Vancouver, prompting people to call for regulations. Some experts, however, say it might be an imagined problem.
This item seems to have generated quite a bit of buzz on my news feed.

Personally, I don't think this is racist at all. The "poisoned their own people for profits" line is 100% true. Richmond City Councillor, Bill McNulty, however, seems to think it is racist, and has urged the Richmond RCMP to follow up on the issue.

[bcrdukes]

But...what if the owner and driver of the truck is Chinese? Does that make it racist?

[VR6GTI]

What's racist about it??

[Traum]

What's racist about it??
I have no idea why it is racist. Seems to me that increasingly, when certain comments are prone to cause one particular group of individuals to become upset, people and the media will label it as "racist", "discriminatory", "biased", etc. without really considering why, or whether it really is racist / discriminatory / biased as they claim.

[westopher]

Its more just horrible articulation of thoughts than being racist.
Vancitybuzz is a bunch of overprivileged hacks trying to stir up controversy by pitting Chinese vs. Canadians (or the "whites" as some ignorant idiots would like to believe Canada is represented by) and gain clicks while trying to pretend they are some sort of cutting edge liberal media like Vice magazine.

[7seven]

I'm chinese and I don't find anything offensive or racist about it. In fact, I myself tend to avoid buying products/goods from China/China made, when alternatives are readily available even if I have to pay more, don't trust or buy any cheap night market/"china crap" products and I avoid Richmond like the plague, only entering to go to the airport and nothing else.

People are way too sensitive and over the top politically correct these days.

[Sid Vicious]

Its more just horrible articulation of thoughts than being racist.
Vancitybuzz is a bunch of overprivileged hacks trying to stir up controversy by pitting Chinese vs. Canadians (or the "whites" as some ignorant idiots would like to believe Canada is represented by) and gain clicks while trying to pretend they are some sort of cutting edge liberal media like Vice magazine.

vice is great, they are pretty unbiased with their news

and yea vancity buzz op ed pieces are hot garbage

[murd0c]

Fuck made a comment yesterday on the opinion piece they wrote on FB and it has over 200 likes and its killing my phones battery dammit

[originalhypa]

Richmond City Councillor, Bill McNulty, however, seems to think it is racist

Is it just me, or is this the whitest name ever?

[pastarocket]

Fuck made a comment yesterday on the opinion piece they wrote on FB and it has over 200 likes and its killing my phones battery dammit

I feel your pain, Murdoc.I -made a comment about corporations outsourcing manufacturing to China and reaping profits from selling low quality products to people.

226 Likes from that comment. :rukidding:

[ree666]

seen it a few times going through the massey tunnel, im asian and im not offended

[jjson]

Fuck made a comment yesterday on the opinion piece they wrote on FB and it has over 200 likes and its killing my phones battery dammit

Unfollow notifications :)

[Manic!]

One word: asbestos.

[CRS]

IB4 CiC tells us how we've already been poisoned by commercial aircraft spraying pesticides on us and mind controlling us via radiowaves so that lizard people can rule from below.

[flagella]

Lol I'm a Chinese myself and want these new wave of mainlanders out. Poisoning their own people part is actually very true.

[Gumby]

Is it just me, or is this the whitest name ever?
That's racist! :p

[EmperorIS]

lol fucking westerners.

Demand cheap low cost products from China.

China delivers and even sacrifice their own people and environment in the process. Western hates on China for delivering.

Fucking hypocrites.

[hchang]

Freedom of speech...


And I also don't see anything wrong with buying from where you please, free trade; do you want to pay $30 for a made in Canada item or $3 for a made in China one

[6o4__boi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsuokWmEZI

pretty much the only appropriate response to any VancityBuzz article

[BoostedBB6]

Most interesting part of that picture is the fact that those tail lights, on either side of the message, are made in China.....as well as the bulbs....and many many more parts of that truck.

[ilovebacon]

but what about this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXXrB3rz-xU

[will068]

The owner of the truck lives down the street from me in Richmond.

It's him and a bunch of their friends renting a house. Suffice to say:

- They look like they are in the lower income bracket
- Members from that household have been seen trespassing houses in the Ironwood / McNair Secondary Area.
- RCMP claims that they are on their radar (whatever that means)...
- One of them looks like the guy that mugged that spa on No 2. and Granville Road last year.

And that "Offended by this line" in the final sentence seems new. hmmm.. Their jimmies have definitely been rustled.

[Harvey Specter]

And of course you'll find this post on VancityBuzz because they probably need more clicks to afford their sub-leased office in DT so they can keep fronting like they're some social media powerhouse.

[Traum]

For what it is worth, this particular piece of news (along with the photo) also made it into the local Chinese newspaper. But IMO, it is questionable whether Van City Buzz or these Chinese newspapers have a bigger readership...

[underscore]

vice is great, they are pretty unbiased with their news

and yea vancity buzz op ed pieces are hot garbage

Really? The few times I've tried to read articles from vice I've found them to be garbage. Maybe they've changed but most of what I've seen from them is trying way to hard to be edgy/alternative.

[Sid Vicious]

Really? The few times I've tried to read articles from vice I've found them to be garbage. Maybe they've changed but most of what I've seen from them is trying way to hard to be edgy/alternative.

you're thinking about VICE, like regular vice

VICE news is great. check out their tv show on HBO. amazing journalism, they even embed into the heart of ISIS!

[Harvey Specter]

Don't know if you guys know but the Vancouver Sun completed a 3 part story on Richmond this week, I posted the link to the 3rd part of the story below. Very interesting read.

Part 3 of 3: Ritzy Richmond neighbourhood where many are ?poor? (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Part+Ritzy+Richmond+neighbourhood+where+many+poor/11136169/story.html)

If you click the link about and it asks you to pay, copy the link and go into private window on your browser.

[PiuYi]

^
“Statistics Canada continues to show (the entire city of) Richmond as one of the poorest cities in British Columbia, with a very high child poverty rate,” says Halsey-Brandt, who also represented Richmond as a B.C. Liberal cabinet minister.

that's some big time CRA fail

[SpeedStars]

I've personally seen this truck in Richmond and it is driven by a person not of asian decent. However I took the message that the driver is actually more offended by the new age of chinese immigrants than the chinese people are of his message.

[Jmac]

"Buy local, support the local economy and your fellow British Columbians" would've been a more eloquent way to put it.

[Gululu]

RS beat down crew assemble? i have address

[underscore]

you're thinking about VICE, like regular vice

VICE news is great. check out their tv show on HBO. amazing journalism, they even embed into the heart of ISIS!

What's the difference between the two supposed to be? If they are significantly different they might want to split their branding a bit as the vice name is not something I associate with quality.

[SkinnyPupp]

I see people calling this rant "racist" as if race has anything to do with it. It has nothing to do with race or nationality. His issues are with the policies of the government. And if you disagree with him, you probably aren't thinking about it enough, or are a communist.

[buhdeh]

Cutting edge news from Vancitybuzz's team of unpaid BCIT communications interns.

[godwin]

VICE vs main stream places like CNN NYtimes, is more like Vancitybuzz is to Globe and Mail

If you watch any of Vice pieces. They reiterate the headline, put some sensational info, write an ending that claims they cover all angles of an complex issue (like overfishing in the Indian ocean) under 15 minutes.

Another similarity, the reporting teams are usually green and making a name for themselves with the public.

Vice and Vancitybuzz are both insulting to people who want news more than a fancy tagline.

you're thinking about VICE, like regular vice

VICE news is great. check out their tv show on HBO. amazing journalism, they even embed into the heart of ISIS!

[godwin]

No it is not quite a CRA fail but lack of political will and well, political posturing.

Non disclosed foreign asset argument has been around for a very long time (vs the US one). I think we got close to try to get a handle on it once during Chretien's time, but if you start counting, it is not only new immigrants are doing it. Plenty Canadian born especially established families around the Golden Horseshoe area have been doing it, except they are buying properties in the States / Caribbean. The issue was quietly dropped when everyone realise everyone else have their hands in the cookie jar.

The statutes are in the books (it is voluntary) but like any other conservatives initiatives having the law but cutting back on resources to enforce the law = nothing gets done. Especially places like China / HK where there is no data exchanged, CRA would have to open a HK / China office and manually go through the records.. really?

The truck driver does have a case, only poorly educated Canadians get left behind.

Easy to blame CRA but they are getting the short end of the stick in this case.

^


that's some big time CRA fail

[noclue]

Same kind of resentment since the head tax.

I wonder if the typical fake "low-income" chinese family with 2 bentley's make up for the free education/healthcare costs with sales taxes cause they eat out a lot and buy lots of luxury goods.

[CharlesInCharge]

The system, via media brainwashing outlets, do a great job to pit ethnicities against eachother when in reality baron robbers are the only ones leeching everyones money. ie no economic protectionism (tariffs and rightful taxes against corps)
Such messages like the one on the truck show low analytical thinking which could spur even lower thinking acts of hate crime.

[Tim Budong]

I'm from Hong Kong, I don't find this offensive.

get this shit out of here.

[sdubfid]

More parking at princess auto for me

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

all the people that say it's not racist back it up with some retarded comment that displays their opposition to mainlanders LOL

"they poison their own people, it's true"
"i'm chinese, get that mainland outta here"
"im from hong kong" (nuff said)

LOL

HAHAHAA

how fucking blind are you guys.

he's labelling an entire race. and you guys agree HAH... you ARE fuckin racist.

you CANT GET ANY MORE RACIST THAN THAT.


KKK: i ain't racist, black people are just steal things and are mostly low income bracket, that's a fact. they steal from each other, you think they care about you?



you guys are SERIOUSLY stupid if you think that shit is "fine".

If i drove down the british properties with a big sign saying "white people are savages and barbaric and have killed and betrayed every race out there including themselves! THATS A FACT!!! YOU THINK THEY CARE ABOUT YOU? IF YOU DISAGREE GET OUTTA THIS COUNTRY!"

LOL

you don't fucking rustle the bees at the hive. it's just simple logic.

you don't scream fire in a theatre.

if you guys HAVENT NOTICED, he's in RICHMOND, and SURROUNDED BY MAINLANDERS.

CIC is exactly right.
Such messages like the one on the truck show low analytical thinking which could spur even lower thinking acts of hate crime.

and you savage dumb fucks are supporting it, so ignorant that you think it's absolutely fine. only because it sides with your own secret anti mainlander agenda. mainlander hate, cuz you're so fucking poor you cant afford a house any more or whatever bullshit you're blaming others for.

quit your bitchin.

get a fucking life.



here's a fuckin clue: when you label an entire race or gender or whatever. you're being racist/sexist/whateverist.

[godwin]

and any place that sell products that uses fuses, recycled paper, tetrapaks, class 4 plastic bags etc etc.. even fish like salmon likely ate plastic bits from China while they were swimming in the Pacific. Not to mention the truck he was driving in.

If he practices what he preaches.

More parking at princess auto for me

[Ford_Fanatic]

If you're Chinese/Asian and not offended by that sign, than you're a fool.

You think the driver cares that you're a CBC/second/third/fourth generation Chinese-Canadian? Or even Chinese at all. I bet he thinks we all look alike.

No. To him you're just another Chinaman who stole his job/priced him out of the housing market/ate his dog, watever...

[SkinnyPupp]

all the people that say it's not racist back it up with some retarded comment that displays their opposition to mainlanders LOL

"they poison their own people, it's true"
"i'm chinese, get that mainland outta here"
"im from hong kong" (nuff said)

LOL

HAHAHAA

how fucking blind are you guys.

he's labelling an entire race. and you guys agree HAH... you ARE fuckin racist.

you CANT GET ANY MORE RACIST THAN THAT.


KKK: i ain't racist, black people are just steal things and are mostly low income bracket, that's a fact. they steal from each other, you think they care about you?



you guys are SERIOUSLY stupid if you think that shit is "fine".

If i drove down the british properties with a big sign saying "white people are savages and barbaric and have killed and betrayed every race out there including themselves! THATS A FACT!!! YOU THINK THEY CARE ABOUT YOU? IF YOU DISAGREE GET OUTTA THIS COUNTRY!"

LOL

you don't fucking rustle the bees at the hive. it's just simple logic.

you don't scream fire in a theatre.

if you guys HAVENT NOTICED, he's in RICHMOND, and SURROUNDED BY MAINLANDERS.

CIC is exactly right.


and you savage dumb fucks are supporting it, so ignorant that you think it's absolutely fine. only because it sides with your own secret anti mainlander agenda. mainlander hate, cuz you're so fucking poor you cant afford a house any more or whatever bullshit you're blaming others for.

quit your bitchin.

get a fucking life.



here's a fuckin clue: when you label an entire race or gender or whatever. you're being racist/sexist/whateverist.
Nothing in the rant mentions any of the Chinese races. There is nothing "racist" about it at all.

If you think that, you're either an idiot, or just looking to provoke.

[Ford_Fanatic]

Nothing in the rant mentions any of the Chinese races. There is nothing "racist" about it at all.

If you think that, you're either an idiot, or just looking to provoke.


"Say no to China crap"
"THEY poisoned THEIR own people..."

Who's "they" in China? The fucking Hondurans? You're just arguing for the sake of arguing

[Drow]

If you're Chinese/Asian and not offended by that sign, than you're a fool.

You think the driver cares that you're a CBC/second/third/fourth generation Chinese-Canadian? Or even Chinese at all. I bet he thinks we all look alike.

No. To him you're just another Chinaman who stole his job/priced him out of the housing market/ate his dog, watever...

i actually hope more and more people put and demonstrate more racist shit in richmond and vancouver.

please lord.

we'll always be in the majority so nothing to be scared about

but hopefully it scares away the mainlanders and drive down some housing prices for when i need to buy a home :whistle:

[SkinnyPupp]

"Say no to China crap"
"THEY poisoned THEIR own people..."

Who's "they" in China? The fucking Hondurans? You're just arguing for the sake of arguing
"They" are the policy makers and government in control. The race is irrelevant. Obviously they're Chinese since the person is talking about China, but that has nothing to do with anything.

If he was ranting about how Honduras runs their country, the race would happen to be about Hondurans. That doesn't make it racist.

You're arguing for the sake of argument. Instead of discussing the real issue of a corrupt government, you're trying to dumb this down to an issue of race. CiC is right about one thing - dumb people will always dumb things down to their level, and nothing ever gets done. The plebs will argue and fight over irrelevant things like "race" while the real troublemakers get away with doing what they do.

[Ford_Fanatic]

"They" are the policy makers and government in control. The race is irrelevant. Obviously they're Chinese since the person is talking about China, but that has nothing to do with anything.

If he was ranting about Honduras, the race would happen to be about Hondurans. That doesn't make it racist.

You're arguing for the sake of argument. Instead of discussing the real issue of a corrupt government, you're trying to dumb this down to an issue of race. CiC is right about one thing - dumb people will always dumb things down to their level, and nothing ever gets done. The plebs will argue and fight over irrelevant things like "race" while the real troublemakers get away with doing what they do.

So you honestly think the driver of the truck wrote that message without any racist undertones? He was really intending criticize the Chinese government for their shitty policies in that eloquently worded message? Guess I'll just have to disagree.

[GS8]

:seriously:



“Say no to China crap"

Crap implies low quality products made in dangerous conditions by people who make less than 5cents on the dollar the crap sells for

Crap could also imply the veil of immunity they seem to have from the rest of the world. We KNOW what they do, but nobody does anything about it. But why care as long as YOUR bottom line isn't jeopardized, amirite?

They poisoned their own people for profits

This is absolutely true. Google it. Go look at their smog covered cities, sludge covered waters and trash filled beaches. It's absurd to think that you can't even breathe when you get outside. I think China's Industrial Age has gone on long enough.

Do you think they care about us?

C'mon RS, answer this question instead of arguing for the sake of arguing

Protect ourselves and our economy

It could be possible this person saw too many people lose jobs because their former company shipped the jobs overseas because they'll work for lower wages. Or the person was a victim themselves. I mean, imagine working 20, 25 years for the same company, on your way to retirement and then, Surprise, you're done. Who wants to hire you when you're too old regardless of your solid work experience?

....

I don't see any racism at all. I see someone who's bitter about a system that favours the rich, enslaves the poor and withers the middle class away.

This is what happens when I don't click the article but, instead, make assumptions but please be aware that I'd rather use a Cheese Grater as a Fleshlight than read a Vanshitty Buzz article.

[twdm]

So you honestly think the driver of the truck wrote that message without any racist undertones? He was really intending criticize the Chinese government for their shitty policies in that eloquently worded message? Guess I'll just have to disagree.
So we should base our arguments on speculation of intent?

If I said don't buy Canadian crap then I must be racist against Caucasians since they are the majority. Am I doing it right?

[Jmac]

So we should base our arguments on speculation of intent?

If I said don't buy Canadian crap then I must be racist against Caucasians since they are the majority. Am I doing it right?
That's really not even close if you're talking race since approximately 1/4 of Canada is non-white while less than 0.1% is non-Asian in China.

But, no, we shouldn't base arguments on speculation.

[twitchyzero]

I have no problem with his message, except for the line where he tells you to gtfo of our country if you don't agree with his views.

You don't need to read in between the lines to know there's serious discriminatory undertone in that phrase.

you should not be in this country implies go back to your country

his truck is missing a confederate flag....joke's on him you simply can't avoid Chinese-made products in this day and age

[lady_mapetite]

all the people that say it's not racist back it up with some retarded comment that displays their opposition to mainlanders LOL

"they poison their own people, it's true"
"i'm chinese, get that mainland outta here"
"im from hong kong" (nuff said)

it's not a retarded comment.. they do poison their own people, please look up the Chinese milk scandal or any food scandal in China and you'll see why that comment is warranted. the milk scandal caused a shortage of infant formula in Hong Kong because mainlanders cleaned off the shelves, if that happened to you and you can't feed your kid, wouldn't you be pissed off too?

anything that's grown in China is either contaminated by heavy metals from improper disposing methods (dumping chemicals in the ground or in the river) or sprayed so heavily with commercial pesticide that no one will eat what's grown on China soil. we're already witnessing how China is importing food from various countries (Canada included) and that's how it will continue to be because China simply can't grow healthy food anymore. so yes, in every literal sense - they [China] are poisoning their own people. that is the truth.

If you're Chinese/Asian and not offended by that sign, than you're a fool.

You think the driver cares that you're a CBC/second/third/fourth generation Chinese-Canadian? Or even Chinese at all. I bet he thinks we all look alike.

No. To him you're just another Chinaman who stole his job/priced him out of the housing market/ate his dog, watever...

um.. that's like someone saying white people are responsible for the Holocaust without taking into consideration that Canadians, French, Irish, Americans etc. all have white complexion.. and if these people aren't offended they're a fool? sorry but that's a pretty foolish comment to make

and the driver should care - if his message isn't getting across to the right people then he failed to deliver his message. a cbc/second/third/fourth generation Chinese-Canadian will not feel offended because it's not relevant to them... which begs the question.. is it really a racist comment when the people in question don't view it to be racist?

[Tone Loc]

:
I don't see any racism at all. I see someone who's bitter about a system that favours the rich, enslaves the poor and withers the middle class away.

This is what happens when I don't click the article but, instead, make assumptions but please be aware that I'd rather use a Cheese Grater as a Fleshlight than read a Vanshitty Buzz article.

This. I'm Asian and I don't see this as racist... instead, it is more of a comment regarding capitalism than anything else.

The majority of Chinese manufacturing companies (e.g., Foxconn et al.) are contracted by Western corporations. Bitch and moan all you want about "China crap" but at the end of the day, the West are the enablers of the poor treatment and poor quality of Chinese labour simply because the West are China's biggest customers. If anyone should be blamed for the state of China right now, look in the mirror.

Your (and I mean "your" in the collective societal sense) perceived need to have the latest, greatest, shiny toy every year is the direct cause of "China crap" and whatever you may believe about the state of Chinese manufacturing.

At the end of the day, if you decided not to buy ANY Chinese products your house would be nearly completely fucking empty. That's not the fault of the Chinese; it's the fault of the Western corporations who decided to make a quick buck by outsourcing their production...

[twitchyzero]

You think the driver cares that you're a CBC/second/third/fourth generation Chinese-Canadian? Or even Chinese at all. I bet he thinks we all look alike.

No. To him you're just another Chinaman who stole his job/priced him out of the housing market/ate his dog, watever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCAMmXvNhFg

[pastarocket]

This. I'm Asian and I don't see this as racist... instead, it is more of a comment regarding capitalism than anything else.

The majority of Chinese manufacturing companies (e.g., Foxconn et al.) are contracted by Western corporations. Bitch and moan all you want about "China crap" but at the end of the day, the West are the enablers of the poor treatment and poor quality of Chinese labour simply because the West are China's biggest customers. If anyone should be blamed for the state of China right now, look in the mirror.

Your (and I mean "your" in the collective societal sense) perceived need to have the latest, greatest, shiny toy every year is the direct cause of "China crap" and whatever you may believe about the state of Chinese manufacturing.

At the end of the day, if you decided not to buy ANY Chinese products your house would be nearly completely fucking empty. That's not the fault of the Chinese; it's the fault of the Western corporations who decided to make a quick buck by outsourcing their production...

+1. This post makes the most sense on this thread. :smug:

[noclue]

Canada also poisoned themselves back in the days with lead paint/asbestos/tanning beds/coal mines/oil sands for profits too...

And eastern ontario or go to any small town BC that relies on lumber mills and you'll enjoy smog as well.

[tarobbt]

I have no problem with his message, except for the line where he tells you to gtfo of our country if you don't agree with his views.

You don't need to read in between the lines to know there's serious discriminatory undertone in that phrase.

you should not be in this country implies go back to your country

his truck is missing a confederate flag....joke's on him you simply can't avoid Chinese-made products in this day and age

Pretty much.

What happens if the First Nations start telling everyone to GTFO off their country and land?

Insults and racism being hurled right back at them right?

Some idiots have a point, but is ruined by their own stupidity.

[The_AK]

only thing i find offensive is the pin-striping on this late model dodge. Seriously, is this the 90s?

[westopher]

Lol at the people pointing out canada poisoning us with things like asbestos in the past. I promise you guys don't need to go back that far. It's still happening. Remember that time we sold billions of liters of water to an American company basically for free? Countless tailing ponds incidents. Removing environmental protection laws for thousands of rivers and lakes? That guy needs to realize he's basically limited to products from Norway and Denmark if he wants products from a country without human rights infringements.

[meowjinboo]

The owner of the truck lives down the street from me in Richmond.

It's him and a bunch of their friends renting a house. Suffice to say:

- They look like they are in the lower income bracket
- Members from that household have been seen trespassing houses in the Ironwood / McNair Secondary Area.
- RCMP claims that they are on their radar (whatever that means)...
- One of them looks like the guy that mugged that spa on No 2. and Granville Road last year.

And that "Offended by this line" in the final sentence seems new. hmmm.. Their jimmies have definitely been rustled.

where around mcnair? Some fucking retard broke into my car to steal a knife, a bottle of cologne and 4 dollars.

[westopher]

Really? The few times I've tried to read articles from vice I've found them to be garbage. Maybe they've changed but most of what I've seen from them is trying way to hard to be edgy/alternative.
VICE has some great documentaries, as well as some garbage. Its the lesser of the evils for lots of mainstream media. I'm just using it as an example of what vanfuckshitpoogarbagecumtowelbuzz is attempting to be. To actually have any idea what is going on you need to get news from many sources and do your best to sort it out.

[Traum]

I remember someone else pointing this out before (probably in another thread), but despite the questionable journalistic quality of Vancity Buzz, they tend to be a bit faster in getting certain news item out to the public. Of course, this faster response time / quicker to deliver behaviour probably contributes to the poorer quality of their reporting as well. But when it comes to news, there is nevertheless some value in being the first one out the door.

[meowjinboo]

they steal news from vpd releases literally copy paste.

[Traum]

they steal news from vpd releases literally copy paste.
Whoa~ That bad, huh?

I wouldn't mind any media keeping a close watch on official police release, and paraphrasing / quoting those as their own reports. But plagiarism is obviously not something not to be condoned.

[twitchyzero]

i dont mind the vancity buzz articles that pop up on my facebook that tells me which new store is opening in town

for actual current events/discussion or blatant clickbait headlines i don't bother clicking it

vice on youtube still has lots of good videos...a lot of their articles are pretty bad though

[Harvey Specter]

What we need to do is create a RS blog site similar to Vancity Buzz and start converting the forum postings into blog postings. There's always stuff been posted on here that you won't find on any local Vancouver blogs, I mean shit just the shitty driver section on this forum would be getting crazy clicks. I personally don't think Vancity Buzz would be able to compete.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I think there are ... some... people on this thread that are so short sighted...

that they're only reading the letters on the back of the truck... and not putting the whole picture like ford fanatic is saying.

you guys REALLY fucking thing that that truck driver is arguing about politics and corruption? HAHAHA...

you guys saying they REALLY DID POISON THEIR OWN PEOPLE... who the fuck is THEY.

you think jack ma is one of those people?

lol.

THEY REALLY DID.

GUESS WHAT

WESTERNERS EXTORT AND ENSLAVE EVERYONE ELSE. IT'S TRUE. IT'S FACT. GOOGLE IT. IT'S WRITTEN IN HISTORY. ALL OF THEM. THEY ALL DO IT.

i cannot seriously believe you of all people skinnypupp... only read the words on the back of the truck... like they are some words out of a text book.

it's on a back of a fuckin hick ass truck. and someone's already said what this guy appears to be like. AND with all the fuckin mainlander hate going around in the world, let alone vancouver.

you FUCKING THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT GEOPOLITICS OR CAPITALISM OR SOME SHIT?!

i cannot believe ANY OF YOU think there is no racist undertone.

you're only reading the text on the truck. you're not looking at the whole picture of the situation.

i fucking guarantee you, if you go up to that fuckin guy, and ask him in depth questions about the fuckin politics and capitalism. he's going to spit in your fucking chink ass face, and then tell you you're a dumb fuck and he has no idea what the fuck youre talking about... (and go back to china).

or maybe he's the type that will offer you a seat at his victorian style table, and offer you a cup of english tea in a gold rimmed tea cup. and discuss the very troubling and outrageous acts of corruption and how western capitalism has turned our own soil into a capitalistic battleground.

YEAH OK.


some people aren't fucking stupid. they don't need things to be presented in obvious ways to get a clue.

if u hated chinese people, ... and you wanted the world to know. .. no human being is stupid enough to write hate crime on their fucking truck and go to prison for that shit.

they do it carefully. and if you can't fucking see through that... fucking facepalm man.

you really really really REALLY think he's talking about corruption? LOL you don't think your stay in HK with all the mainlander haters, and all the CORRUPTION news that you constantly hear about has skewed your perspective and interpretation to something that you can understand more?

seriously man... SERIOUSLY get a clue.

you don't need to be a genius to know when a white dude, shows up at your door with those words printed on his t-shirt and all his friends doing the same... to know they want you out, because you're chinese.

"oh... i didn't have a clue, the words didn't grammatically dictate racism, and they didn't call me a chink, so i assumed they were talking about politics and other deep rooted issues."





listen closely... read closely... to the words he's CAREFULLY CHOSEN to PRESENT to the PUBLIC.

any writer, any artist, anyone with HALF A FUCKING BRAIN and any amount of EQ would automatically pick up on the NOT SO SUBTLE message he's trying to send out.


it's obviously a short sighted problem... the people that don't think it's racist, don't think it's racist because THEY AGREE with it... and they don't realise that if you agree with it, you're blind to the other side.

just cuz you think you aren't racist, and you agree with something, doesn't make it NOT racist.




just answer this question:

if we go up to that guy, and we find out HE IS a racist. and he hates chinese people.
would you change your mind on the shit on the truck?

if yes, then you obviously have woken up to a new perspective and can now agree with what i have said.

if NO, then you are just still grammatically, left brained, systematically reading the message, and ONLY reading the message as if it were some thought in your own head. breaking down the words by structure and grammar. linearly. like a fucking computer trying to decode some text.

except youre not a fucking computer. and there's a WHOLE LOT MORE than just the fucking text to interpret.

get a clue, this isn't a protest against chinese made products. this isn't a protest about corruption or capitalism.

this is a protest against chinese people, taking over "his" country and "his culture" and he doesn't fucking like it.
no they don't care about "his" country and "his culture". this is a protest against mainlanders showing up everywhere, and taking over everything. and doing what "they" do... and continuing to be "chinese" people and not being "assimilated" into "canadians".

basically, saying no to anything chinese.

learn to read between the lines man.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I feel like I'm at a school full of autistic people. And there's a message on the wall that states "You're all so fucking special *thumbs up*"
Clearly spray painted in an act of vandalism. And there's just a buncha autistic people standing around clapping and cheering and happily agreeing with the message.

"But I am special! I agree with the message!"

The irony.

The amount of face palm the guy with the truck is gonna do when a buncha Chinese people agree with him.

[Sid Vicious]

What's the difference between the two supposed to be? If they are significantly different they might want to split their branding a bit as the vice name is not something I associate with quality.

VICE vs main stream places like CNN NYtimes, is more like Vancitybuzz is to Globe and Mail

If you watch any of Vice pieces. They reiterate the headline, put some sensational info, write an ending that claims they cover all angles of an complex issue (like overfishing in the Indian ocean) under 15 minutes.

Another similarity, the reporting teams are usually green and making a name for themselves with the public.

Vice and Vancitybuzz are both insulting to people who want news more than a fancy tagline.

well, vice without the news is generally more OP ed pieces and articles about culture, and just in general "weirder" stuff

vice news is just straight up journalism. and @godwin they won an Emmy for outstanding program, you d should give it a chance.

would globe and mail ever send their journalists to embed in ISIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUjHb4C7b94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C66mAkS1ZfM

[melloman]

If i drove down the british properties with a big sign saying "white people are savages and barbaric and have killed and betrayed every race out there including themselves! THATS A FACT!!! YOU THINK THEY CARE ABOUT YOU? IF YOU DISAGREE GET OUTTA THIS COUNTRY!"


1 flaw in your oh so awesome train of thought...

Go to the British Properties, you'll see a MINORITY of white people.
Saudi's, Russians, Mainlanders, East Indians, Caucasians. It's not all white dominant up there anymore.. Might as well go to Mission, BC and run your magnificent sign around.

Ofcourse he's racist as he's targeting a certain type of people. He also probably has the intelligence of a nat. Big fucking whoop on this guy and the arguments you're trying to make.

Nobody is going to do shit. He isn't breaking any laws with this sign, he's just pissing some people off.. Knowing him, he's just mad at the "Chinese Only Signs" in Richmond that he can't read, and he's retaliating in his own way.. IQ=0.001 /end.

[asahai69]

god. a debate over something vancity buzz posted :inoutugh:

[yray]

https://youtu.be/4hH6YpY8gM0?t=56s

jackie chan: I am buying a television,which one would I buy. Of course I would buy Japanese, Chinese will explode.

[Mr.Money]

i thought lots of third generation Chinese were against immigants coming to Vancouver & Pissing into the Garbage can in public malls,No?
:troll:

[J____]

I'm mainland chinese and currently living and working in China and I don't find this offensive. In fact it's very true, I'm actually quite ashamed at the society of my people here, for money they'll do anything and don't really care for their own kind as long as there is personal gain. Pretty sad but I can't blame them, it's the overpopulation and horrible government history that's created this selfish society. Sad indeed.

[What_the?]

I'm with Ulic on this one, I'm surprised not more people find this racist?

It looks pretty racist to me given the entire context of the situation.

Plus the whole idea of corruption and people making shitty products to get rich quick isn't exclusive to China. I'm sure there are other places where products are made and suck or have corners cut for profit. Plus this is not the case with ALL China made products. If everything made from China was poisonous we'd all be dead by now considering how much of the goods we consume day to day without realizing it.

But anyways, seems pretty racist to me as Ulic pointed out.

Sometimes I'm ashamed by what some mainlanders do too (i.e. kids pissing in the mall, rudeness, etc), but that still doesn't make this message less racist.

[CivicBlues]

I posted this in the comment section but thought it bears repeating here:

There's a reason why people are sensitive to "China Sucks" and why "Germany Sucks" or "Ireland Sucks" doesn't hold as nearly much baggage. I'm sorry but most White people will never understand this reasoning because they never grew up with it.

It's because as an Asian person you're automatically grouped as "Chinese" whether or not you're of that ethnic origin or something else. You're singled (however subconsciously) out as an "other" just on the basis of your appearance and the biggest and baddest "other" in this day and age is China. No one will single a white person out for their European ancestry unless they flaunt it or are obvious about it.

Case in point: if an Asian person buys a house its "oh he bought that with dirty ill gotten communist party money", even if he's not even Chinese! But a white person here is likely never going to be associated with the likes of Vladamir Putin even if he's of Slavic origin.

I don't have to tell Asians who grew up here how easy it is to go from "China sucks" to "Chinese people suck" to "All you Asians should just go home" on the school playground. Unfortunately for some we haven't progressed much from grade-school it seems.

[Xplicit_EL]

As mentioned by a lot of people here, the statement is more likely racist than not given the context.

But, my statement is "so what" everyone is a little racist to some degree. Racism will always be around and you are naive to think it will ever be abolished totally. One perspective I take from growing up in different continents is that I hate everyone "equally". In other words I am a Misanthrope- Google the definition.

[bcrdukes]

Hi guys,

Is this racist?

Racist graffiti prompts action from Nanaimo mayor - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/racist-graffiti-prompts-action-from-nanaimo-mayor-1.3117060)

Yes? No? Discuss.

[Traum]

Hi guys,

Is this racist?

Racist graffiti prompts action from Nanaimo mayor - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/racist-graffiti-prompts-action-from-nanaimo-mayor-1.3117060)

Yes? No? Discuss.
I would call this racist, but I would not call the truck dude in my first post the same thing.

[bcrdukes]

So we have one example where the guy with the truck with a message suggesting racist undertones. The example I posted is a display of blatant racism.

We have been socially engineered from a young age to say no to drugs, no to strangers, not to racism and all sorts of other things in life. Is it safe to say we are too sensitive? That's a touchy subject open for debate, but socially and culturally, we will think the message from the truck is "racist" but is it really? I would consider it more of an ignorant and misconstrued message more than anything.

Having said that, fuck you all. I'm going to meet multicartural for a quadruple Americano at Milano Coffee in Gastown.

[The_AK]

Anything from vancitybuzz is on the same teir as articles from elite daily

[melloman]

So we have one example where the guy with the truck with a message suggesting racist undertones. The example I posted is a display of blatant racism.

We have been socially engineered from a young age to say no to drugs, no to strangers, not to racism and all sorts of other things in life. Is it safe to say we are too sensitive? That's a touchy subject open for debate, but socially and culturally, we will think the message from the truck is "racist" but is it really? I would consider it more of an ignorant and misconstrued message more than anything.

Having said that, fuck you all. I'm going to meet multicartural for a quadruple Americano at Milano Coffee in Gastown.

Safe to say? You don't have to say anything, society is full of fucking babies, and anything you do or say these days will have "consequences." :facepalm:

[westopher]

Hi guys,

Is this racist?

Racist graffiti prompts action from Nanaimo mayor - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/racist-graffiti-prompts-action-from-nanaimo-mayor-1.3117060)

Yes? No? Discuss.
Did you write this graffiti dukes?

[bcrdukes]

"It wasn't me." - Shaggy :hotbaby:

[originalhypa]

"It wasn't me." - Shaggy :hotbaby:

Lies!

We all know that you get confused by swastikas and hashtags like a dyslexic hipster. That said, I cant spell definately, and confuse d and b when I'm writing.
Lyk a bawss.

Kappa

[CivicBlues]

Bcrdukes is the biggest self-hating Asian out there. His hipster persona comes from a very deep dark pit of self-loathing. :whistle:

[multicartual]

Bcrdukes is the biggest self-hating Asian out there. His hipster persona comes from a very deep dark pit of self-loathing. :whistle:


You don't even know the definition of self-hating until you go to a SlutWalk and meet the male feminists.

[GS8]

"I believe in free speech but only if I agree with your speech"

That's where we are at now. Our culture has become over developed to the point where we micro analyze everything and have allowed cynicism and pessimism to take over all in the name of 'political correctness'.

WIth Social Media, any basement dwelling anti-social trilobite can start a blog / buzz page and post garbage just for the sake of stirring the toilet and it seems to work. Now we have garbage stories where someone is offended by something polluting the airwaves where stories of greater importance only get a very small fraction of coverage...

I feel sorry for the children growing up as we speak. Their innocence and optimistic outlook of the world will be completely levelled when they hit the tween age.

[ae101]

wonder if there a truck like this in surrey lol

[Hondaracer]

Saw an old hot rod in Langley a few times when I worked there that had a sticker in the back window, somthing along the lines of "welcome to honcouver japanada" far more offensive than this lol :s

[kevincca]

Save it. They are too dumb to understand what you are saying.

Just say no to China crap. They are retarded. They don't even know they are being fucked. This is ture so it is not racist.

if you are offended by this massage you shouldgo kill yourself.


I think there are ... some... people on this thread that are so short sighted...

that they're only reading the letters on the back of the truck... and not putting the whole picture like ford fanatic is saying.

you guys REALLY fucking thing that that truck driver is arguing about politics and corruption? HAHAHA...

you guys saying they REALLY DID POISON THEIR OWN PEOPLE... who the fuck is THEY.

you think jack ma is one of those people?

lol.

THEY REALLY DID.

GUESS WHAT

WESTERNERS EXTORT AND ENSLAVE EVERYONE ELSE. IT'S TRUE. IT'S FACT. GOOGLE IT. IT'S WRITTEN IN HISTORY. ALL OF THEM. THEY ALL DO IT.

i cannot seriously believe you of all people skinnypupp... only read the words on the back of the truck... like they are some words out of a text book.

it's on a back of a fuckin hick ass truck. and someone's already said what this guy appears to be like. AND with all the fuckin mainlander hate going around in the world, let alone vancouver.

you FUCKING THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT GEOPOLITICS OR CAPITALISM OR SOME SHIT?!

i cannot believe ANY OF YOU think there is no racist undertone.

you're only reading the text on the truck. you're not looking at the whole picture of the situation.

i fucking guarantee you, if you go up to that fuckin guy, and ask him in depth questions about the fuckin politics and capitalism. he's going to spit in your fucking chink ass face, and then tell you you're a dumb fuck and he has no idea what the fuck youre talking about... (and go back to china).

or maybe he's the type that will offer you a seat at his victorian style table, and offer you a cup of english tea in a gold rimmed tea cup. and discuss the very troubling and outrageous acts of corruption and how western capitalism has turned our own soil into a capitalistic battleground.

YEAH OK.


some people aren't fucking stupid. they don't need things to be presented in obvious ways to get a clue.

if u hated chinese people, ... and you wanted the world to know. .. no human being is stupid enough to write hate crime on their fucking truck and go to prison for that shit.

they do it carefully. and if you can't fucking see through that... fucking facepalm man.

you really really really REALLY think he's talking about corruption? LOL you don't think your stay in HK with all the mainlander haters, and all the CORRUPTION news that you constantly hear about has skewed your perspective and interpretation to something that you can understand more?

seriously man... SERIOUSLY get a clue.

you don't need to be a genius to know when a white dude, shows up at your door with those words printed on his t-shirt and all his friends doing the same... to know they want you out, because you're chinese.

"oh... i didn't have a clue, the words didn't grammatically dictate racism, and they didn't call me a chink, so i assumed they were talking about politics and other deep rooted issues."





listen closely... read closely... to the words he's CAREFULLY CHOSEN to PRESENT to the PUBLIC.

any writer, any artist, anyone with HALF A FUCKING BRAIN and any amount of EQ would automatically pick up on the NOT SO SUBTLE message he's trying to send out.


it's obviously a short sighted problem... the people that don't think it's racist, don't think it's racist because THEY AGREE with it... and they don't realise that if you agree with it, you're blind to the other side.

just cuz you think you aren't racist, and you agree with something, doesn't make it NOT racist.




just answer this question:

if we go up to that guy, and we find out HE IS a racist. and he hates chinese people.
would you change your mind on the shit on the truck?

if yes, then you obviously have woken up to a new perspective and can now agree with what i have said.

if NO, then you are just still grammatically, left brained, systematically reading the message, and ONLY reading the message as if it were some thought in your own head. breaking down the words by structure and grammar. linearly. like a fucking computer trying to decode some text.

except youre not a fucking computer. and there's a WHOLE LOT MORE than just the fucking text to interpret.

get a clue, this isn't a protest against chinese made products. this isn't a protest about corruption or capitalism.

this is a protest against chinese people, taking over "his" country and "his culture" and he doesn't fucking like it.
no they don't care about "his" country and "his culture". this is a protest against mainlanders showing up everywhere, and taking over everything. and doing what "they" do... and continuing to be "chinese" people and not being "assimilated" into "canadians".

basically, saying no to anything chinese.

learn to read between the lines man.

[GLOW]

Saw an old hot rod in Langley a few times when I worked there that had a sticker in the back window, somthing along the lines of "welcome to honcouver japanada" far more offensive than this lol :s

not as offensive as the "if you chink don't drive" sticker i've seen


if you are offended by this massage you shouldgo kill yourself.

strong first post

[nma]

In literal sense, there is some truth to what the guy wrote on his truck. However, as Ulic so bluntly points out, I would be willing to bet he is a hill-billy racist who is most likely incapable of having a discussion about the global political economy and capitalism. Could be wrong....

But if that is the case, I do think that is quite offensive and racist, as he is simply writing some bullshit that makes a bit of sense to get his own method of hate across and attract some people to the bandwagon.

I think when someone makes the effort to go and put that on their truck, it becomes a lot more serious because they are trying to gather a following and create hate. You're either with us or against us sort of mentality. I think that's what gives away his obvious racist ideologies.

[Akinari]

if you are offended by this massage you shouldgo kill yourself.
Depends on how good the massage is :ifyouknow:

[bcrdukes]

WTB: Racist massage backed by guarantee that it will be good or else I will kill myself

Seems promising

P.S. - Welcome to Revscene!

[bcrdukes]

RIP bcrdukes

[GLOW]

WTB: Racist massage backed by guarantee that it will be good or else I will kill myself


of course you would. regular massages are too mainstream.

[Gululu]

appearantly this is the driver of the racist truck, a short dark-skinned vietnamese peasant :rukidding:

http://i.imgur.com/NDOiNVhl.jpg

[CivicBlues]

appearantly this is the driver of the racist truck, a short dark-skinned vietnamese peasant :rukidding:

http://i.imgur.com/NDOiNVhl.jpg

looks photoshopped :rukidding:

[Hondaracer]

The plot thickens! Lol

[Great68]

http://news.superlife.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/images/2015/06/135057X5v.jpg

HAHAHA

So he's Vietnamese and his wife is Chinese.

So what seems racist to me is how many of you retards immediately stereotyped this as "some white hillbilly"

[EmperorIS]

REKT

[Drow]

shrekt

[multicartual]

Talking to nammers is always fun because they're opinionated and animated!


They remind me of the asian version of an Italian

[underscore]

So what seems racist to me is how many of you retards immediately stereotyped this as "some white hillbilly"

Well duh, only white people can be racist.

[Yodamaster]

I have two sets of tools, American and Chinese made. I do the bulk of my grunt work with the Chinese set because they're disposable. If it's something I care about that requires better tools, I use the domestic set. I tend to throw around the Chinese set, the air tools don't get much oil.

That being said, I've only had to replace one Chinese made tool. They work, but if you split the more complex tools open, you can really see why they are so cheap.

I buy domestic when I can, that goes for everything. If not for the difference in quality, then for the rejection of the horrendous living and working conditions that Chinese workers go through to make (x) product.



The tailgate doesn't lie, Chinese products have been known to contain toxic chemicals and ingredients unsafe for human consumption and use. It's no surprise that certain regulations that come standard here simply do not exist there.

[Akinari]

appearantly this is the driver of the racist truck, a short dark-skinned vietnamese peasant :rukidding:

http://i.imgur.com/NDOiNVhl.jpg
Peasant? If he is the owner of the house behind him, and assuming that he works in construction by the attire he is wearing and the condition of his truck, the guy probably rakes in cash faster than your mum and dad can afford to buy you your N-stickered Audi.

Don't get cocky.

[GS8]

Well duh, only white people can be racist.

Ironically, they're the ones who cry 'RACISM!' the most

:fuckthatshit:

---

This may not apply to him but will definitely apply to others:

Many come to Canada to GET AWAY from what you find in a country like China. But to find that 'system' slowly bleeding into the country you fled to at a point where it affects the country itself totally warrants outrage IMO.

[parm104]

Guarantee that the Reebok t-shirt he is wearing is imported from some 3rd world country, guilty of the same shit his truck slogan is suggesting to boycott.

[originalhypa]

Lookie here, Ulic's rant combined with this new evidence makes him look like a bipolar ranting psycho again. It must be Friday on revscene.
Kappa

[SkinnyPupp]

Like I said, just because the guy takes issues with how the Peoples Republic of China is run, doesn't mean he hates Chinese people.

You can love Chinese people and China itself, and still think they have a fucked up, corrupt government which tries to influence culture in their favour, and may eventually lead to the downfall of mankind. (Just look at what they did to poor Ulic...) But that doesn't make you a racist.

Race is utterly irrelevant to the guy's complaints - they could be from anywhere and everywhere in the world. There are plenty of fucked up things to complain about in just about every country in the world. And it's not like other countries with other races aren't benefiting from this "system" either.

This isn't even getting to t he fact that there is only one race - human - anyway. That's a whole other issue that people need to address if they think "races" are inherently different from each other.

[Lomac]

Like I said, just because the guy takes issues with how the Peoples Republic of China is run, doesn't mean he hates Chinese people.

You can love Chinese people and China itself, and still think they have a fucked up, corrupt government which tries to influence culture in their favour, and may eventually lead to the downfall of mankind. (Just look at what they did to poor Ulic...) But that doesn't make you a racist.

Race is utterly irrelevant to the guy's complaints - they could be from anywhere and everywhere in the world. There are plenty of fucked up things to complain about in just about every country in the world. And it's not like other countries with other races aren't benefiting from this "system" either.

This isn't even getting to t he fact that there is only one race - human - anyway. That's a whole other issue that people need to address if they think "races" are inherently different from each other.

This.

I'm dual citizenship with both Canada and USA. In general, I actually really like both countries. Each one has good qualities to it and the people you meet are generally very pleasant and friendly. However, that's not going to stop me about bitching about certain policies or other things about said countries. I love Canada and couldn't imagine moving out of it, but that doesn't mean I support or agree with many of the governing party's policies or actions. I respect and adore the USA, but that doesn't stop me from speaking out against the Second Ammendment or make fun of certain Southern stereotypes (even if they are mostly incorrect).

[westopher]

So now the new topic at hand? Are the people that assumed this was an angry white person racist?
This is irony at it's finest.

[bcrdukes]

Don't make me spray paint your neighbourhood, westopher!

[westopher]

Lol. "Kill whitey"
"Whites go home"
This would also be some hilarious irony.

[CivicBlues]

LOL at all the white people in this thread trying to categorize what is and what is not racist.

Reminds me of the Boomer meme:

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/5/25/19/grid-cell-21673-1369523154-5.jpg
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/5/25/19/grid-cell-9730-1369522815-9.jpg

[westopher]

Who can categorize what's racist and what's not? Is it exclusive to people that aren't white?

[CivicBlues]

Who can categorize what's racist and what's not?

Black People. :accepted:

But seriously,
I don't subscribe to the belief that only whites are racist or that they are never victims of racism, but 99% of whites who live in Canada their entire lives DO NOT experience racism. I can say the same for 99% of Chinese who spend their entire lives living in China.

Sorry but being stared down by an Asian shopkeeper or being called gweilo doesn't count.

[westopher]

Sorry but being stared down by an Asian shopkeeper or being called gweilo doesn't count.
Technically, by definition of the word, it does. But I do agree we don't deal with the hardships of racism nearly as much as probably any other groups, but anyone, of any race can understand what it is if they look at things objectively. The people that are most racist to white people are white people hilariously enough. The self loathing Caucasians that believe all of us hate all of the world and they are the only white individual leading a crusade for human rights. Vancouver is full of them.
Just like the male feminists that think all men are rapist Neanderthals except for them.

[originalhypa]

but 99% of whites who live in Canada their entire lives DO NOT experience racism.

Try living in a french part of Quebec as an anglophone from BC. I have personally been ripped by francophone caucasians for not being able to speak french.
Is that racist?
Or simply xenophobic?

Before you answer that, what is the difference?

[CivicBlues]

Technically, by definition of the word, it does. But I do agree we don't deal with the hardships of racism nearly as much as probably any other groups, but anyone, of any race can understand what it is if they look at things objectively. The people that are most racist to white people are white people hilariously enough. The self loathing Caucasians that believe all of us hate all of the world and they are the only white individual leading a crusade for human rights. Vancouver is full of them.
Just like the male feminists that think all men are rapist Neanderthals except for them.

Absolutely. The loudest 'opponents' of racism are white leftist liberals (god bless them) who see everything that doesn't reduce humans into grey, genderless blobs as the next holocaust. However I wouldn't call it whites being racists to whites.

Racism is when you're:
Being told to go back to your country when you're born in Canada
Being called a "fucking Chink"
Being spat on and shoved for no apparent reason
Being flat out refused service and told to leave a store.

Granted, the majority of these events happened to me while travelling outside of Canada. Which brings me to my other point.

Canada is an extremely welcoming and tolerant nation, possibly the most tolerant in the entire world (and I've seen a fair chunk of it.) So if this truck is the worse that we can dish up, I say we have it pretty good. BUT...I can see this anti-china/anti-foreigners thing here in Vancouver to spiral out of control if left unchecked. We do have a history of Anti-Chinese riots, Japanese Internment that people seem to conveniently forget.

[trollguy]

racism is when i was driving my old ricer car and made an illegal uturn and this dude told me to learn to drive you chink

[CivicBlues]

Try living in a french part of Quebec as an anglophone from BC. I have personally been ripped by francophone caucasians for not being able to speak french.
Is that racist?
Or simply xenophobic?

Before you answer that, what is the difference?

It's just called being French :smug:

I would call that Xenophobia. However you're not being singled out for your outward appearance. If you minded your own business and spoke to no one, I doubt anyone would hassle you.

[originalhypa]

It's just called being French :smug:

I would call that Xenophobia. However you're not being singled out for your outward appearance. If you minded your own business and spoke to no one, I doubt anyone would hassle you.

The french are definitely a proud people, and for the most part the average Quebec citizen that I encountered was a kind, decent human being. But like anything, the bad individuals really stood out. That said, how does one go through their daily life without communicating? In an average day you would need to 1)order a coffee at Tims 2) get gas for the car 3) speak with co-workers (who were the kindest folk of all). I learned how to speak french very quickly, and immersed myself in the culture by smoking and drinking in Jazz bars. But my wife was terrified to go to the supermarket.

I would never say that I understand what a black person goes through living in the south, or what an asian person feels when someone does their best rendition of "no tickee, no shirtee". But from what I have experienced, it sucks. To be written off because you look, speak, or believe something different than everyone else. It's a feeling of being alone, while surrounded by millions of people.

While the terms racism, xenophobia, judgemental, bigotry, et al are different, the result is the same. People being considered lower because of their differences.



I truly believe that the only way humans will work together is if the aliens attack. We need a common enemy to bring us together.
:fuckyea:

[Traum]

I truly believe that the only way humans will work together is if the aliens attack. We need a common enemy to bring us together.
:fuckyea:
Nah, not gonna work. There'll still be sellouts that join the aliens and do their bidding.

[originalhypa]

On that note, have you seen Multicartual's new book,

"How to pick up green bitches, from space"

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[bcrdukes]

The green fairy. Hot.

[fT-z33wor]

would smash, with the force of a thousand suns

[pastarocket]

You can also look at that sign on the truck from the angle of the world economy and the globalization of work.

So if you do not want to buy "crap" from China, does the driver want to buy local made, "made in Canada" products because he thinks the product would be higher quality?

The guy is on crack if he thinks that he can buy a Canadian made product at an affordable price given that Canadian labour costs, e.g. wages, are higher than China's labour costs. We also have many unionized workers in this country.

Does that guy really think in this global economy a multinational corporation would move their manufacturing process back to Canada or the U.S? Profit margins would go down because the labour costs of making that same product would go way up. Is that company going to jack up the price of that can opener, or toy, two, three, of five times just to make the same amount of profit if the same product is made in China? Hell no, would consumers buy that product?

Corporations only care about one thing: Profit. They only care about how much money that they can squeeze out of consumers.

Consumers that want a high quality product at an affordable price need a reality check. What's with this sense of entitlement? Corporations don't give a fuck about consumers. They care about how much money they can make out of each consumer.

Perhaps manufacturing is different in Europe or Asia. I've seen beautiful Bohemian crystal made in the Czech republic. It definitely wasn't made in China. It was high quality stuff. Was it affordable to many consumers? I doubt it. The cheapest Bohemian crystal ornament that I saw in that Czech store cost 100 Euros. :lawl:

You want a high quality product? Pay more money for it. Sometimes you cannot have your cake and eat it too by getting a high quality product at a cheap/affordable price.

You may not have a choice when it comes to buying certain products because that corporation selling that product to the retailer moved their manufacturing process to China. That's too bad. Suck it up, buttercup!

[bcrdukes]

Economics and politics aside, most people in the thread interpreted the message initially as "racist." Whereas some people stopped and thought for a second or two then came to realize, "Okay, maybe this message isn't racist."

Stupid hipsters.

[CivicBlues]

The french are definitely a proud people, and for the most part the average Quebec citizen that I encountered was a kind, decent human being. But like anything, the bad individuals really stood out. That said, how does one go through their daily life without communicating? In an average day you would need to 1)order a coffee at Tims 2) get gas for the car 3) speak with co-workers (who were the kindest folk of all). I learned how to speak french very quickly, and immersed myself in the culture by smoking and drinking in Jazz bars. But my wife was terrified to go to the supermarket.

I would never say that I understand what a black person goes through living in the south, or what an asian person feels when someone does their best rendition of "no tickee, no shirtee". But from what I have experienced, it sucks. To be written off because you look, speak, or believe something different than everyone else. It's a feeling of being alone, while surrounded by millions of people.

While the terms racism, xenophobia, judgemental, bigotry, et al are different, the result is the same. People being considered lower because of their differences.



I truly believe that the only way humans will work together is if the aliens attack. We need a common enemy to bring us together.
:fuckyea:

http://static.srcdn.com/slir/w570-h275-q90-c570:275/wp-content/uploads/independence-day-will-smith.jpg

Did you Independence Day lately? :smug:

I agree that bigotry in all forms is reprehensible. But the biggest difference with your situation and racism is that you can change your situation by learning French and partaking in their community. A black guy is never going to be accepted in a racist redneck community no matter how hard he tries. Or if you prefer, a white guy in Japan can learn to speak perfect Japanese but still never be accepted by society at large or the government there. People will continue to judge their outward appearance even if it has no bearing on their behavior or contribution to society. That, I believe, is more insidious.

[twitchyzero]

So he's Vietnamese and his wife is Chinese.

So what seems racist to me is how many of you retards immediately stereotyped this as "some white hillbilly"

someone earlier on in the thread said they've seen a low-income white guy driving this truck and lives in their neighbourhood, so not really stereotyping.

so because an asian man makes a discriminatory statement and tells you to gtfo of Canada if you don't agree with him is suddenly not racist? same reason why someone of African decent uses the word 'nigger' day-in and day-out is asinine and speaks volume about their class and education level.

A racist remark can be against a culture as a whole and does not have to be confined to a specific ethnicity for it to be classified as racism.

[Great68]

this country.

Does that guy really think in this global economy a multinational corporation would move their manufacturing process back to Canada or the U.S?


Yes.

Coming home | The Economist (http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21569570-growing-number-american-companies-are-moving-their-manufacturing-back-united)

http://news.yahoo.com/manufacturing-moving-china-us-survey-065217238--finance.html

Companies Tiptoe Back Toward ?Made in the U.S.A.? - WSJ (http://www.wsj.com/articles/companies-tiptoe-back-toward-made-in-the-u-s-a-1421206289)

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

the fact that he is not white makes it more ironic. not less racist.

I still stand by my comments.

he's generalizing an entire country/race... while adding in the "get out of MY country"... as if he is the definition of the country. and alienating them as "they" vs "us".

the fact is... too fucking bad. they're here. and they're here to stay. it aint his country.
it's theirs too.

that's why it's offensive.

there was never any "they" vs "us"... it's just him vs himself and him not liking the way things are. LOL.


it's offensive when ANYONE claims this country or culture to themselves. and treats anyone else, even if they're an immigrant and or someone who's only been here half the time any differently.

i shouldn't say offensive. cuz i'm not offended. it just sounds plain stupid.

OUR CULTURE, OUR COUNTRY. GET OUT... uhh actually no, it's not your country. it's not your culture. you're just another person, just like they are. u have no entitlement to this country or culture any more than anyone else on this planet does.

get out? HAHA get the fuck out yourself, idiots. they ain't getting out. you get the fuck out. times have changed. change with it, or leave. your complaining is more like a whiny bitch bitchin'.


"im a real canadian, i was born here (or moved here before u did!)... i am the true canadian!!! it's my culture!!! it's MY COUNTRY!!!" lol yah ok. if they pay more taxes, in my eyes they are more canadian than you are. unless u fucking fought in a war defending canada or some shit.

the fact is, any joe blow can move here, and out canadian you in a moment. and you don't like that. and if they out canadian you with their buddies, then they become the real canadians. and you become a fucking minority, forgotten in the books of history. boo fucking hoo.

the world gets smaller every moment. you will feel the pressures of bigger powers as they take hold of the globe. you can't ignore 1 billion people and tell them to get off your land. you're on the losing side.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

actually i thought about it long and hard. this is the most offensive thing about it:

anyone that says "get out of my country" or "stop destroying my culture" or whatever, is assuming that they represent all of the other canadians, including me.

and that i value the same fucking things they do. and they assume that their message is somehow more legit than other canadians that have different values.

lol, fuck you guys. i clearly ain't the same canadian as he is. what you gonna do, kick me out of "your" country LOL.

"our" country... don't include me in your crazy crusade. I, for one, welcome anyone into this country that isn't going to hate on anyone else and anyone who isn't afraid of change, and of course, anyone with a buncha greenback.

if you wish to preserve culture, go work at the museum of history.

as the world gets smaller, cultures will mix, or... clash. the result won't be one culture winning and the other culture being assimilated. it will be both of them changing, and the ones that cling to the old traditional ideologies will just become old grumps, as the rest of the world, and people that can change and give up the old ways keep chugging along and living life. have fun.

[ae101]

question if i put the same message on BMW 7 series & drive a around richmond, will u all think its a racist chinese person from HK or TW hating on its own kind?

[GLOW]

On that note, have you seen Multicartual's new book,

"How to pick up green bitches, from space"

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waiting for his follow-up book on green haired bishes...
"The Kiss and Dismiss"

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