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ancient_510
06-19-2015, 07:50 AM
...for police to hold you at a roadblock?

Long story short: I never talk to the police. If going through a roadblock, or anywhere really, I never say a word (with the exception of stating name and address in accordance with BC MVA 73 (2)).

Driving home from work, I went through two roadblocks at Market Crossing (went to the bank on my commute). The first roadblock on the actual Market Crossing street seemed fine and the member seemed okay with me not talking. Took my licence and ran my name in his computer. Total stop length was appx 4 minutes; perfectly reasonable.

Second roadblock when exiting back onto Byrne road, another member seemed genuinely peeved that I didn't talk. Indicated for me to pull over and almost seemed to take offence that I wasn't talking. He "had all night" and he "could wait." Took my licence, insurance, and registration; and ran it through his computer. He then stepped out of his vehicle and then loitered for 21 behind his vehicle not checking other vehicles and otherwise not doing anything.

How long in your opinion (our resident Peace Officer's opinions are preferable) is it reasonable to be held by police on the side of the road if they are not actively investigating you?
Does what that member did seem punitive?

hchang
06-19-2015, 07:52 AM
If you got nothing to hide why make it any harder than it has to be

I understand it's within your rights to not answer questions like where you coming from but officers are asking questions like that to keep us safe so there's no harm in answering the damn question

jeedee
06-19-2015, 07:57 AM
:lawl:

Are you serious? Just answer 2 questions and you're literally out of the roadblock in 1-2 mins (barring you didn't drink alcohol beforehand/don't give any sarcastic answers or attitude)


Anything to drink tonight?
No

Where are you coming from/heading to?
Home

But if I'm reading your OP correctly, when the officer asked you those questions you didn't answer him/say a single word?

And you wonder why you're being held at the roadblock for 21 minutes? :fulloffuck:
Unless you have something to hide, just answer the damn question(s)

smoothie.
06-19-2015, 08:02 AM
if you're being an asshole, you'll be treated as one.

it goes for most things in life

fliptuner
06-19-2015, 08:11 AM
You're free to exercise your right to not say anything but in doing so, he just reciprocated by using his right to check you out. I don't think a court would hold it against him for making you wait 20 minutes, if that's what you're wondering.

I hate dealing with cops as much as the next guy but if you have nothing to hide, just play ball and be on your way. There are better things to do with your time than to make a point, under these circumstances.

320icar
06-19-2015, 08:12 AM
I just don't get people like the OP. There is a difference of being within your rights, and being a difficult person that makes a situation worse. Our police here are very good, and if you choose to excercise your rights as a Canadian citizen, they almost always understand.

BUT, why do it? For the cars I've driven in the past, I used to get pulled over about twice a month, they were rolling VI machines. Yet, I never got a single ticket. There was a strong mutual respect between a citizen and an officer of the law, and humanity is shown both ways.

People like you need to grow up. Act like an adult and save your rights for a time and place. The police are doing their job (such as a roadblock for DUY) not for you, sir, but for all of the other citizens of this country who could be injured or killed by someone else who is under the influence.

Everyone seems to think that they are the ONE person that police are here to serve. No, you are just one of 35,000,000. Odds are sometimes the other 34,999,999 people have a general concern that may go against you


But whatevs. Fuck the pigs, amirite?

sho_bc
06-19-2015, 08:15 AM
Your post isn't entirely clear. Are those quotes of what the officer actually said? And what does "loitering for 21" mean?

Do you know that there was no further investigation into anything (relates somewhat to the above)? I know that sometimes running checks can take 10-15 minutes, depending on the situation (computers down/slow, everyone trying to use the radio at once and not being able to key in, etc), or as quickly as 2-3 minutes if all the stars align.

Officers are allowed to conduct roadblocks to check for sobriety without invoking an "official" detention (ie. advising the reason for detention, right to contact a lawyer, etc). What is considered reasonable in terms of time detained is determined by the courts after the fact.

underscore
06-19-2015, 08:39 AM
You're free to exercise your right to not say anything but in doing so, he just reciprocated by using his right to check you out.

Exactly, you're not be required to say anything but they're also not required to cut you any breaks. It's really the same as anything else, if you're going out of your way to make someones job easier then they're more likely to help you out, conversely if you go out of your way to make their job difficult don't be expecting them to do anything but the same to you.

wing_woo
06-19-2015, 09:30 AM
Every time I go through roadblocks, never an issue. Usually officer stops me just long enough to ask if I had anything to drink. I say no and off I go.

I've had some look at me as I was approaching and rolling down my window and he doesn't even say anything and waves me through. Didn't even come to a complete stop.

You exercise your right to not say anything, expect to be stopped longer as officers often deal with those civil rights group of people who believe it's their god given right to do as they please. He/she's gonna look into everything about you if you just don't say anything.

Of course, in your original post, you didn't mention what you mean by not talking (ie. he asked if you drank and you just didn't say anything or if you stopped and looked at him waiting for him to ask you something). But seriously, nothing to hide, answer the damn question and be off. Why go through the hassle.

Unit91
06-19-2015, 09:42 AM
Given that you are technically being detained at any traffic stop, the length of the stop is determined based on what is required for the officer to complete his investigation and dispatch with the outcome of that. That includes all reasonable and necessary checks on a person's history and documents and asking any questions related to that investigation.

An officer may require a check in to more detail as circumstances of the stop and the individual(s) often give clues that there is more "beneath the surface". If you are unable or unwilling to provide answers that allow the traffic stop process to move along smoothly, an officer should be doing their due diligence and conducting checks to get the complete picture and know who or what they are dealing with.

There any many "sit around and wait moments" that are out of the officer's control as well. They don't have to be sitting in in the car, staring at the MWS for this to happen. For example, if you have provided expired insurance paperwork and the officer has to wait for confirmation (if they don't just tow you instead), then you are going to be stuck there until such time as that investigation is concluded; it could be a couple hours.

Moral of the story; you are free to follow to the letter of the law on what is required of you at a traffic stop, Just as an officer is justified - and in fact required - in conducting every part of their duty they feels necessary to complete that stop.

pinn3r
06-19-2015, 10:14 AM
People like OP :facepalm:

meme405
06-19-2015, 10:15 AM
People like OP :facepalm:

100%

Just because you have rights, doesn't mean you will always benefit by shoving them in everyone's face.

Tone Loc
06-19-2015, 02:22 PM
So let's get this straight...

You decided to be a dick to a cop, when you had literally nothing to hide nor reason to be so evasive.

And now you're complaining because the cop was a dick to you.

Man, I wish we could fail people on this forum...

MarkyMark
06-19-2015, 02:37 PM
Get used to it OP, you wanna play the game you gotta expect the consequences of it and wait like a good little boy.

Gerbs
06-19-2015, 02:37 PM
Roadblocks normally never take longer than 30 second why would you not talk if u have nothing to hide.

MarkyMark
06-19-2015, 02:42 PM
I don't even know what he expects to gain from this thread, even if there was some 15 minute law what are you going to do OP, sue the officer?

BoostedBB6
06-19-2015, 02:47 PM
Roadblocks normally never take longer than 30 second why would you not talk if u have nothing to hide.

Because he has watched to many YouTube videos of Americans giving cops grief for no good reason other than they can......which is funny when the cops give it right back to them JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN.

As for time at roadblocks, they can detain you for any amount of time they see fit until they are happy with the situation. Not answering a simple, direct, non-accusational question with silence will cause an officer to question your legaticamy of being there and cause them to start digging. If you don't want to talk, that's fine. They will run your plates, your drivers license, your VIN and anything else they can to gather information on you.

You wanted to flex your rights, well cops can do just the same if you want to be that way.

Enjoy being a dick to someone just trying to do there job ;)

6o4__boi
06-19-2015, 02:54 PM
:facepalm:

starting a fail list for OP:

1. 6o4__boi

fsy82
06-19-2015, 03:15 PM
...for police to hold you at a roadblock?

Long story short: I never talk to the police. If going through a roadblock, or anywhere really, I never say a word (with the exception of stating name and address in accordance with BC MVA 73 (2)).

Driving home from work, I went through two roadblocks at Market Crossing (went to the bank on my commute). The first roadblock on the actual Market Crossing street seemed fine and the member seemed okay with me not talking. Took my licence and ran my name in his computer. Total stop length was appx 4 minutes; perfectly reasonable.

Second roadblock when exiting back onto Byrne road, another member seemed genuinely peeved that I didn't talk. Indicated for me to pull over and almost seemed to take offence that I wasn't talking. He "had all night" and he "could wait." Took my licence, insurance, and registration; and ran it through his computer. He then stepped out of his vehicle and then loitered for 21 behind his vehicle not checking other vehicles and otherwise not doing anything.

How long in your opinion (our resident Peace Officer's opinions are preferable) is it reasonable to be held by police on the side of the road if they are not actively investigating you?
Does what that member did seem punitive?

You are what we call a fucking moron for wasting everyone's time

jonwon
06-19-2015, 09:11 PM
OP you sound like one of those cringey betas that think they're cool for giving police attitude. And why are you calling them members lol

zulutango
06-20-2015, 05:11 AM
It is not unusual to have to wait for an information/records request from dispatch if they are busy with something else. Based on your attitude that you displayed here, they might have been checking further than just a cursory look. There may be someone with a name similar to yours that has an outstanding warrant and they may have to contact the issuing Police force to confirm the information with them. Lots of reasons. As others have said, a little cooperation on your part will get you moving quicker. If you raise suspicions/concerns with the Police, they will investigate further and that takes time. I don't think anyone here believes you got a "time out from Daddy" just because you were a bad boy....or maybe you did??? :)

BallPeenHammer2
06-20-2015, 11:40 PM
Why paint a target on your own back when there wasn't one to begin with?

idiot.

zulutango
06-21-2015, 06:22 AM
So he could come here and complain?? :)

jeedee
06-21-2015, 06:31 AM
I'm surprised OP hasn't posted back in this thread after all the heat he's taken so far :lol

Soundy
06-21-2015, 08:55 AM
I'm surprised OP hasn't posted back in this thread after all the heat he's taken so far :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI

E-SPEC
06-21-2015, 12:52 PM
on a side note, ever watch those Cop Block videos of people being unnecessarily treated? Most of those morons i watch deserve eerything they get cause they want to be smart asses and not follow VERY SIMPLE instructions. Not associating OP with it. Just saying.

Derrickk
06-21-2015, 01:58 PM
He's over it.. Lol. Cops will be cops

dared3vil0
06-22-2015, 09:43 AM
Is it really too fucking hard to answer two questions and be on your way?

murd0c
06-22-2015, 09:58 AM
Sounds like the cop should of held you long for acting like such a tool.

sebberry
06-22-2015, 03:48 PM
Christ, I've never even had them "run checks" after looking at my licence.

vitaminG
06-22-2015, 04:38 PM
It is not unusual to have to wait for an information/records request from dispatch if they are busy with something else. Based on your attitude that you displayed here, they might have been checking further than just a cursory look. There may be someone with a name similar to yours that has an outstanding warrant and they may have to contact the issuing Police force to confirm the information with them. Lots of reasons. As others have said, a little cooperation on your part will get you moving quicker. If you raise suspicions/concerns with the Police, they will investigate further and that takes time. I don't think anyone here believes you got a "time out from Daddy" just because you were a bad boy....or maybe you did??? :)

how in depth are they allowed to check on a road block? i thought road blocks are only to check sobriety, valid license/insurance and vehicles roadworthiness.

a roadblock is meant to only be brief and 20 minutes doesnt seem brief to me. i realize it would be quicker to answer simple questions like a normal person, but its everyones right not to if they chose.

Tone Loc
06-22-2015, 08:37 PM
a roadblock is meant to only be brief and 20 minutes doesnt seem brief to me. i realize it would be quicker to answer simple questions like a normal person, but its everyones right not to if they chose.

And it's the cop's "right" to hold a subject (err, client) until they are satisfied that there are no issues with that individual. Even if that includes spending 20 minutes "running checks" on said individual... I am no lawyer, but I am sure it would be quite easy for a police officer to convince a JP that 20 minutes is well within a "reasonable time" especially if the cop is able to articulate that the client (yay!) is exhibiting behavior that is reasonably suspicious and/or normally indicative of someone who is hiding something, such as being a dick and not answering any questions from police.

Soundy
06-22-2015, 10:18 PM
road blocks are primarily to check sobriety, valid license/insurance and vehicles roadworthiness.

Fixed that for you.

There's nothing in law limiting a stop to those items.

vitaminG
06-22-2015, 10:44 PM
i believe they are STRICTLY limited to check sobriety, valid license/insurance and vehicles roadworthiness. random stops are an infringement on our rights against arbitrary detention, but the exception is made to check these things as it is a broad public safety concern.

sho_bc
06-23-2015, 04:33 AM
That has been the restriction placed by the courts in terms of arbitrary detention (and without being required to inform people of their Charter Rights during that initial interaction), however there is nothing stopping any police officer with investigating anything else that presents itself to the during the course of that roadblock.

zulutango
06-23-2015, 04:41 AM
how in depth are they allowed to check on a road block? i thought road blocks are only to check sobriety, valid license/insurance and vehicles roadworthiness.

a roadblock is meant to only be brief and 20 minutes doesnt seem brief to me. i realize it would be quicker to answer simple questions like a normal person, but its everyones right not to if they chose.

A checkpoint is to check....if the check can be done quickly and there is nothing that requires further "checking" then it's over quickly. If it takes longer....and I gave you an example...then it takes longer. "Sorry for detaining you sir....I realize that there is an outstanding arrest warrant for murder ....but because it took me more than 5 minutes to comfrim that....ally ally oxen free...you get to go"...

sebberry
06-23-2015, 07:22 AM
Didn't the SCC deem roadblocks an unconstitutional arbitrary detention?

Check for sobriety and then let the driver go. There's no need for a round of 21 questions.

originalhypa
06-23-2015, 08:31 AM
.but because it took me more than 5 minutes to comfrim that....ally ally oxen free...you get to go"...

I never knew that was how the system worked!

BRB, off to settle some scores...

:die:



also, lol at the OP.
You're not ruining his night by being a knob, you're ruining yours.

wing_woo
06-23-2015, 09:06 AM
They are there primarily to check sobriety and road worthiness, but if there is any reason to stop you for something else such as not wearing your seatbelt, or they see you with a cell phone on your lap that's on, then they have just cause to detain you as it is no longer an arbitrary detention.

Sometimes they ask where you have been or where you are going as a means to determine if you likely have drunk or not. If you are going home from a party, then they may follow up with "did you drink?" If you already are a dick and don't answer that saying that they have no right to ask you a 'personal' question like that, then I'm sure they might want to have a longer chat with you.

My last roadcheck I drove by was in the middle of the day leaving Belcarra park. It's obvious where I've been. I rolled down the window and officer asked if I drank, I said no and he waved me through. Cause he asked me when I was still coming to a stop, I ended not even ever coming to a complete stop at the roadcheck. Be nice, respect the officer and if you did nothing, you probably won't be held any longer than it takes to ask "Did you have any alcohol?"

zulutango
06-23-2015, 12:37 PM
Didn't the SCC deem roadblocks an unconstitutional arbitrary detention?

Check for sobriety and then let the driver go. There's no need for a round of 21 questions.


In so many words...yes....but they also said it was OK...because it was of benifit to society.

Drow
06-23-2015, 07:48 PM
ITT : OP thought he was a hard-ass but realized he's actually an asshole

pinn3r
06-23-2015, 08:12 PM
Random and roadblock stops are saved by s. 1 due to the purpose of the stops. The purpose
is road safety which is a broad public concern. These stops are authorised by law to check on
matters such as sobriety, licensing, insurance and the mechanical fitness of the vehicle.
Further, these stops are designed to be a brief interference with a motorist’s right to travel
about freely. However, random stops and roadblocks are limited to these purposes and do
not give the police an unchecked power to investigate any and all suspected criminal activity.

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ITT : OP thought he was a hard-ass but realized he's actually an asshole

I hope OP realizes he was being an asshole and rescinds his ways

quasi
06-24-2015, 03:02 PM
I'm just going to leave this here.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/700155-supreme-court-rules.html#post8569451



In practice? It's up to the police to use their discretion in investigating you. If you're being suspicious as fuck and not saying a word, they will be as suspicious as fuck towards you. Sure the reason for continued investigation or probable cause for search may not "officially" be you being silent; but it sure will cause them to continue detective work to find something else.

In personal experience? I've never replied to a question that a police officer has asked me. I was never delayed more than 2-3 minutes.
Silent situations include driving through road checks, side of the road interviews after speeding ("do you know what the speed limit is here?"), and once when walking through my neighborhood pulling a rolling suitcase after a string of recent break ins.

Well shit, at least you have another experience to add to the resume now.

I present my driver's licence as required by law when driving.
I'm not an idiot, just an asshole.

You have my full support on the second part, the first part is debatable.

The funny thing about people who are pricks is they love to be pricks but when someone is a prick back to them they cry the loudest. Guarantee OP was that kid who grabbed his ball and went home when he didn't get his way.

ancient_510
06-29-2015, 11:40 AM
So much love going around in this forum :toot:
Your post isn't entirely clear.

http://i.imgur.com/F4ejOfJ.jpg
This was my route on Thursday night. There was a roadblock at #1, my bank is at #2, and there was another roadblock at #3.

I drove in to roadblock at location #1. The member started interviewing me while I was idling in the middle of the roadway. He was asking questions such as "have you had anything to drink tonight" and "do you understand me." I stayed quiet with the exception of the BC MVA 73 (2) statement. I was asked to pull over. He then attended to the two cars queued behind me while I had pulled over. He then went to his police vehicle to presumably check my information. He then returned to my car and returned my licence and said "have a good night" The total time elapsed between me being asked to pull over to the side of the road and the member returning my licence was 4 minutes.

I drove to my bank at location #2, attended to my business, then drove back to Byrne Rd.

I drove in to roadblock at location #3. The member began to interview me asking the same sort of questions including "have you had anything to drink tonight" and "do you speak English". He then directed me to pull over. He took my license and vehicle registration. He asked me to make the BC MVA 73 (2) statement which I did. He then said "oh so you do speak english." He continued to repeat variations of "have you had anything to drink tonight." He then made the statement (word for word) "I have all night, I can wait."
He then went to his police vehicle to presumably check my information. He exited his police vehicle and did not immediately return to my vehicle, instead it appeared that he simply loitered near the trunk of his police vehicle. He was not stopping any other cars that were exiting from the private driveway and turning right onto Byrne during this time. I did not see him doing any other "police work" during that time. He did not re-enter his police vehicle after this period of loitering. For all I know he was playing angry birds on his phone to pass the time.

The total time elapsed between me being asked to pull over to the side of the road and the member returning my licence was 21 minutes.

I don't think anyone here believes you got a "time out from Daddy" just because you were a bad boy....or maybe you did??? :)

I really do think I got a "time out" as a punitive measure by the roadblock at location #3 simply because I didn't answer questions. How did a roadblock only a few minutes later take five times as long? Looks like ZT isn't really saying much here :yuno:

ancient_510
06-29-2015, 11:45 AM
I'm surprised OP hasn't posted back in this thread after all the heat he's taken so far :lol
He's over it.. Lol. Cops will be cops
I went on holiday lol. Some forum member dug through my old posts to find more information on me not talking to police; it's not a stretch to see my last activity date/time :hotbaby:

OP you sound like one of those cringey betas that think they're cool for giving police attitude. And why are you calling them members lol
Because that's the term.

So he could come here and complain?? :)
I don't even know what he expects to gain from this thread
Just trying to understand.

zulutango
06-30-2015, 05:48 AM
So much love going around in this forum :toot:


http://i.imgur.com/F4ejOfJ.jpg
This was my route on Thursday night. There was a roadblock at #1, my bank is at #2, and there was another roadblock at #3.

I drove in to roadblock at location #1. The member started interviewing me while I was idling in the middle of the roadway. He was asking questions such as "have you had anything to drink tonight" and "do you understand me." I stayed quiet with the exception of the BC MVA 73 (2) statement. I was asked to pull over. He then attended to the two cars queued behind me while I had pulled over. He then went to his police vehicle to presumably check my information. He then returned to my car and returned my licence and said "have a good night" The total time elapsed between me being asked to pull over to the side of the road and the member returning my licence was 4 minutes.

I drove to my bank at location #2, attended to my business, then drove back to Byrne Rd.

I drove in to roadblock at location #3. The member began to interview me asking the same sort of questions including "have you had anything to drink tonight" and "do you speak English". He then directed me to pull over. He took my license and vehicle registration. He asked me to make the BC MVA 73 (2) statement which I did. He then said "oh so you do speak english." He continued to repeat variations of "have you had anything to drink tonight." He then made the statement (word for word) "I have all night, I can wait."
He then went to his police vehicle to presumably check my information. He exited his police vehicle and did not immediately return to my vehicle, instead it appeared that he simply loitered near the trunk of his police vehicle. He was not stopping any other cars that were exiting from the private driveway and turning right onto Byrne during this time. I did not see him doing any other "police work" during that time. He did not re-enter his police vehicle after this period of loitering. For all I know he was playing angry birds on his phone to pass the time.

The total time elapsed between me being asked to pull over to the side of the road and the member returning my licence was 21 minutes.



I really do think I got a "time out" as a punitive measure by the roadblock at location #3 simply because I didn't answer questions. How did a roadblock only a few minutes later take five times as long? Looks like ZT isn't really saying much here :yuno:

"he didn't re enter his vehicle"...because he maybe had a radio that they were giving him information???I'm assuming from your MVA section quotes that you have taken some sort of law classes....I used to find the the most complaints come from those with very little actual experience and knowledge. My favourite quote from a roadside Perry Mason who was being taken from a roadside brawl outside a monster party,,,to the drunk tank..."you can't arrest me...my father's a lawyer". She was not correct, as her father later explained to her. ;)

Soundy
06-30-2015, 06:40 AM
I really do think I got a "time out" as a punitive measure by the roadblock at location #3 simply because I didn't answer questions. How did a roadblock only a few minutes later take five times as long? Looks like ZT isn't really saying much here :yuno:
Or here's a thought: the cop at #3 could see you wandering around the parking lot with a stop at the bank, something tickled his Spidey senses, and when you refused to answer any kind of REASONABLE questions like "what the fuck are you doing there?" he thought it might be PRUDENT to dig a little deeper. He probably radioed the cop at #1 and found out you'd pulled the same act there, which made him even more suspicious, and so FOR THE COMMON GOOD, he took all the time he needed to make damn sure you weren't some roving criminal casing a bank job.

See, cops getting your hackles up at someone pulling a "BC MVA 73 (2)" isn't necessarily being petty or power tripping... most REASONABLE people would find it a sketchy behaviour and they'll wonder what you're up to. A simple reply of, "I'm just off work and going to my bank" could have made the whole thing smooth as silk... but noooooo, you gotta be all "I know my rights".

Long story short: it's not all about you, princess.

wing_woo
06-30-2015, 08:25 AM
The member started interviewing me while I was idling in the middle of the roadway. He was asking questions such as "have you had anything to drink tonight"

Why would you not answer that unless you had something to drink? I just say no to the officer and off I go. I don't even have to pull over. Less than 30 seconds and I'm done.

If I was the officer, I would have done the same thing. You have the right to remain silent, but why remain silent if you have nothing to hide. That's a red flag to investigate further right there. Seriously, I'd have to say you were just asking for it by being a dick and when an officer finally decided to play along with you, then you think you're being picked on.

ancient_510
06-30-2015, 12:18 PM
He probably radioed the cop at #1

Thank you. I didn't think of this.
Now the extra time waiting seems more reasonable.

vitaminG
06-30-2015, 01:36 PM
Random and roadblock stops are saved by s. 1 due to the purpose of the stops. The purpose
is road safety which is a broad public concern. These stops are authorised by law to check on
matters such as sobriety, licensing, insurance and the mechanical fitness of the vehicle.
Further, these stops are designed to be a brief interference with a motorist’s right to travel
about freely. However, random stops and roadblocks are limited to these purposes and do
not give the police an unchecked power to investigate any and all suspected criminal activity.
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I hope OP realizes he was being an asshole and rescinds his ways

if this is the case, then they shouldnt be checking him for suspicious activity or active warrants anyways.

Soundy
06-30-2015, 01:44 PM
Thank you. I didn't think of this.
Now the extra time waiting seems more reasonable.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4030692/memes/groucho%20not%20sure%20if%20serious.jpg

sho_bc
07-01-2015, 05:10 AM
if this is the case, then they shouldnt be checking him for ... active warrants anyways.

These results show up when you run someone's information to find out drivers licence status anyway (no way around it) and are generally a lot faster to show up than the DL information.

underscore
07-01-2015, 07:17 AM
if this is the case, then they shouldnt be checking him for suspicious activity or active warrants anyways.

That's not really what that paragraph is saying.

meme405
07-02-2015, 11:17 AM
if this is the case, then they shouldnt be checking him for suspicious activity or active warrants anyways.

Really? Is that a power you really want to take away from the police?

Do you know how many people with warrants are captured during standard police stops and road blocks? LOTS. I'm sure there is a chart that proves that somewhere.

Look at it from this perspective: a guy gets pulled over for speeding while skipping bail on murder charges, but since the power to see warrants was taken away from traffic cops, the guy gets a speeding ticket and is released to go on his merry way.

^To avoid that scenario is likely exactly the reason information about warrants and criminal history automatically pop up when a cop puts in your information. It's one of those "Greater Good" things, yeah sure in some technical sense it might be some sort of privacy breach or some BS, but in order to get criminals off the street the government makes it possible. Hell I'd argue that someone with a warrant doesn't have any rights anyway...

BallPeenHammer2
07-05-2015, 05:14 PM
I find this whole scenario moot.

I've been through at least 50-60 roadblocks in my years of driving. NOT ONE officer gave me shit because I NEVER GAVE HIM ANY.

"where u coming from?"

"8 rinks. that's my goalie gear in the back"

"Did you drink tonight"

"Nah. I knew you guys were gonna be here (joke, lol)"

"Did you guys win?"

"Yeah! We did!"

"Congratulations! Have a good night!"

That there, was a conversation I had back in February. It took 30 FUCKING SECONDS. I left feeling good. The cop felt good I wasn't drunk or being a tard.

THat's it.

Now stop wasting everyone's time whining about your self-inflicted loss of 20 minutes due to your asinine "I got rights" attitude and just be nice to the guy next time.

You ever think that MAYBE the cops DON'T LIKE standing there all night smelling people's breath? hmm.

Soundy
07-05-2015, 06:08 PM
Now stop wasting everyone's time whining about your self-inflicted loss of 20 minutes due to your asinine "I got rights" attitude and just be nice to the guy next time.

I wish I could Thank this post a thousand times.

wing_woo
07-06-2015, 09:05 AM
I find this whole scenario moot.

I've been through at least 50-60 roadblocks in my years of driving. NOT ONE officer gave me shit because I NEVER GAVE HIM ANY.

"where u coming from?"

"8 rinks. that's my goalie gear in the back"

"Did you drink tonight"

"Nah. I knew you guys were gonna be here (joke, lol)"

"Did you guys win?"

"Yeah! We did!"

"Congratulations! Have a good night!"

That there, was a conversation I had back in February. It took 30 FUCKING SECONDS. I left feeling good. The cop felt good I wasn't drunk or being a tard.

THat's it.

Now stop wasting everyone's time whining about your self-inflicted loss of 20 minutes due to your asinine "I got rights" attitude and just be nice to the guy next time.

You ever think that MAYBE the cops DON'T LIKE standing there all night smelling people's breath? hmm.

Haha...this reminds me of one strange roadblock I went through many years ago. This was when I had my ricey Civic that you can hear from a block away.

I see the cop at the top of the hill and checked to ensure I was going 50. Slowed down when got near him.

Cops says:
"SLOW DOWN! Do you think I'm standing here for my health?!?"

I say:
"But sir, I was going the speed limit, how slow did you want me to go?"

Cop:
"Nevermind...where you going?"

Me:
"On my way to hockey, that's my goalie gear in the back"

Cop:
"Ok, remember to slow down next time you see me!" "Have a good game".

Was like 30 secs but I guess he thought I was going a lot faster cause of how loud my Civic was. Now I drive a minivan and sometimes I don't even have to come to a complete stop and the cop is done with me already.

originalhypa
07-06-2015, 01:57 PM
"Did you guys win?"

"Yeah! We did!"



Now I know you're lying!!!

:lol

J/k bro.
thanks to you for the good post.

BallPeenHammer2
07-10-2015, 12:03 AM
fuck off hypa.

You no better than I.

LOL