[Lomac]

Coming soon to a North American dealer near you!

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1311452662575425057.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1311452662722055969.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1311452662827031585.jpg

All new RWD platform with available AWD and 510hp V6TT, tuned by Ferrari. Those are really the only solid details currently released at the moment.

Lots of comments online about how it resembles the F10, but I wouldn't say that's a bad thing. So many regulations exist now that it's getting harder and harder for designers to create something completely unique. I'll certainly say I'm a little excited to see one of these on the road.

[Timpo]

the rear is generic looking. Italian cars should have more characteristics.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/consumer/1205_comparing_mainstream_midsize_sedan_prices_opt ions_and_features/38410243/2012-kia-optima-rear.jpg

[maxx]

who cares how it drives or how much power it has - just look at it. and you'll be driving an Alfa

[Timpo]

even Maserati is getting generic

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1305_2014_maserati_quattroporte_s_q4_first_drive/46643044/2014-maserati-quattroporte-q4-rear-end-in-motion.jpg

[flagella]

Car looks good and honestly it's a safe styling you can't really go wrong. Do agree with timpo that all these cars seem to be looking more similar with the only distinguishing feature being front grill.

[Lomac]

First official video, with sound of the Giulia.

:drool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttktBQHOndg

[jinxcrusader]

more

[twitchyzero]

Does fiat Chrysler Alfa share any parts interchangeably?

Wonder what the reliability is like on the new Alfa's.

Italian sports saloons in our market is much welcomed. Any idea on the price tag?

[bcrdukes]

Cool, they retained the four leaf clover :)

[thumper]

carbon brakes :o

how much is this going to all cost?

[originalhypa]

geezus! that is a nice Alfa.
Where will one be able to buy these?

Please don't tell me that I have to deal with some shady Dodge salesman in a cheap suit.

http://p1cdn02.thewrap.com/images/2013/12/ronburgundy-620x400.png

[TOS'd]

I can be one step closer to becoming bcrdukes.

[bcrdukes]

geezus! that is a nice Alfa.
Where will one be able to buy these?

Please don't tell me that I have to deal with some shady Dodge salesman in a cheap suit.

I believe Fiat of Vancouver is authorized to sell Alfa Romeo. They will have the 4C available so I think it's safe to say they will also carry the Giulia.

Any how, I hope Alfa Romeo will come back some pedestrian cars.

And STFU TOS'd.

[Lomac]

carbon brakes :o

how much is this going to all cost?

I believe this is designed to be an M3 fighter, with the Giulia being a 3-series competitor. So you can probably expect prices to be similar.

[Mike.L]

my eyes hurt, I swear I see like 20 cars in 1.

[Galactic_Phantom]

in b4 multicartual's obligatory Richmond/UBC/Asian/N sign comment

[Timpo]

my eyes hurt, I swear I see like 20 cars in 1.

yeah this car is identity crisis at its finest.

[StylinRed]

the styling makes me feel like im in the 90's and for what i'm sure will be a high price, that seems unreasonable -_-

[godwin]

Alfa Romeo Giulia QV - 3.0 liter turbo V6, 510 PS (503HP), 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 sec
Mercedes-AMG C63 S - 4.0 liter biturbo V8, 510 PS (503HP), 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.0 sec
Cadillac ATS-V Sedan - 3.6 liter twin-turbo V6, 470 PS (464HP), 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.0 sec (est.)
BMW M3 - 3.0 liter twin-turbo straight-six, 431 PS (425hp), 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.1 sec (DKG)


Source (http://www.carscoops.com/2015/06/alfa-romeos-giulia-qv-takes-aim-at-m3.html)

Interesting to see how they take the Maserati engine to compete in the small car sector.. as long as it sounds good (which 4 leaves clover Alfas usually do).. and as long as you are leasing, you are golden.

If you have seen Alfas the last decade, I think this is a huge improvement!

[The_AK]

Love the looks of this, that being said, lol'd at this gif

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--yiUXUxgB--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1311428568808107303.gif

[nsx042003]

That is one sweet looking sedan, curvy yet aggressive

[68style]

Personally I disagree, there is nothing styling wise about this Alfa that will make it a classic, it's going to look old in a not-good way a year or two after its released and is a big step back IMO. Cheap plastic grates all over the front end, indecisive looking headlights (love them or leave them, the wedges on the most recent 159 housing round bulbs were distinctly Alfa)... this thing is a bulgy mess with an identity crisis drivetrain...

The 4C is an Alfa... this is... I don't even know what this is. It looks like a Chrysler 200 with an Italianized (I can't say Italian because it lacks any dramatic flair) face and ass.

[godwin]

Well in their defense.. you need the cheap FRP plastic grill bits to do mass market car with active aero, right now. Companies with iconic grills like BMW, Mercedes etc are all stuck because grills cut into aerodynamics, but if your company design element depends on them, you can't really get rid of it overnight. I see the same problem with the Giulia..

In my mind the classic Alfas are the late 80s - early 90s.. they are much more angular.

In the end I am just glad that they finally have RWD back in an Alfa.

Cheap plastic grates all over the front end,

[68style]

I don't think they needed to stick black milk crates all over the frontend to compensate for having a movable front lip spoiler?

[godwin]

No the 3 craters are to evoke relationship to models like the Veloce, Guiletta etc. It is part of their design element.. kind of like the bug eyed 911 vs the fried egg 996. It is what it is.

I don't think they needed to stick black milk crates all over the frontend to compensate for having a movable front lip spoiler?

[Timpo]

Alpha Romeo Giulia Concept
http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-Concept-multi.jpg

[StylinRed]

that would have been awesome!


this is the Giulia at the reveal, looks odd


http://i.imgur.com/HZxURBP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6P6W5ZQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rrxgSVF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/m5LY1m0.jpg

[Timpo]

That looks very similar to BMW but kidney grill missing.

[boostfever]

this is the Giulia at the reveal, looks odd


http://i.imgur.com/HZxURBP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6P6W5ZQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rrxgSVF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/m5LY1m0.jpg

distorted photos. it's just the camera and angles that make it look weird.

[68style]

No the 3 craters are to evoke relationship to models like the Veloce, Guiletta etc. It is part of their design element.. kind of like the bug eyed 911 vs the fried egg 996. It is what it is.

I'm not contesting the 3 holes on the frontend, that's classic Alfa....... but filling them with black crate plastic that look like someone didn't go for the foglights option on what will assuredly be an $80k+ automobile is....... pretty fail.

[godwin]

I thought those cutouts are actually dual mode cruise control transceivers.. 1 for 77Ghz and 1 for 24Ghz.

I'm not contesting the 3 holes on the frontend, that's classic Alfa....... but filling them with black crate plastic that look like someone didn't go for the foglights option on what will assuredly be an $80k+ automobile is....... pretty fail.

[68style]

I thought those cutouts are actually dual mode cruise control transceivers.. 1 for 77Ghz and 1 for 24Ghz.

Does it matter? They didn't have to make it look cheap and crappy lol

[wstce92]

This got me very excited.
But then I remembered how much the 4c let me down with the auto only nonsense.
:okay::fuuuuu:

[Energy]

This got me very excited.
But then I remembered how much the 4c let me down with the auto only nonsense.
:okay::fuuuuu:

This one will come with a manual!

Thank Sweet Baby Jesus The New Alfa Romeo Giulia Has A Manual (http://jalopnik.com/thank-sweet-baby-jesus-the-new-alfa-romeo-giulia-has-a-1713887925)

[thumper]

I believe Fiat of Vancouver is authorized to sell Alfa Romeo. They will have the 4C available so I think it's safe to say they will also carry the Giulia.

Any how, I hope Alfa Romeo will come back some pedestrian cars.



is this going to work? trying to sell $$$ alfas next econobox fiats makes me think of how hyundai tries to sell their high-end genesis and equus models in the same showroom space with cheap accents and elantras?

[thumper]

https://youtu.be/eYenUXGTSDA

[bcrdukes]

is this going to work? trying to sell $$$ alfas next econobox fiats makes me think of how hyundai tries to sell their high-end genesis and equus models in the same showroom space with cheap accents and elantras?

Tough to say. I'm sure they will be available on the showroom in limited quantities, so if someone wanted to buy it, would have to make certain arrangements.

There's a reason why Alfa Romeo left the North American market way back when. Perhaps history is doomed to repeat itself!

[westopher]

I know you can find styling cues shared across cars but its a bit ridiculous.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1311452662575425057.jpg
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/projectcars/f80m3/turner_motorsport_parts_for_bmws_project_f80_m3_f8 2_m4.jpg

[thumper]

Tough to say. I'm sure they will be available on the showroom in limited quantities, so if someone wanted to buy it, would have to make certain arrangements.

There's a reason why Alfa Romeo left the North American market way back when. Perhaps history is doomed to repeat itself!

does fiat still have ferrari as part of their portfolio? i thought it would make more sense to sell this car next to ferraris...

[bcrdukes]

That, I'm not sure but I personally don't think so.

[StylinRed]

The 4C could probably do alright in a Ferrari dealership but that's already pushing the envelope of ruining Ferraris image. It would get by due its unique styling... This on the other hand probably wouldn't work parked next to an FF

Maybe a straight Maserati dealership with no Ferraris on the lot

[bcrdukes]

For those of you who are old enough to remember, Brian Jessel had a Ferrari / Maserati dealership on Venables, near the La Casa Gelato. There was an Alfa Romeo sign as well, but I was never sure if he was trying to sell imported models or simply act as a service centre for Alfa Romeo owners (they're bloody simple cars anyway.)

I can see the business prospect of carrying Alfa Romeo's higher end / performance models alongside Maserati and Ferrari, but maybe not the Mito hahaha

[godwin]

I thought it was further East pass Octagon, no?

Well, that dealership is where the "BMW Prince" had his start.. haha

That's brings up another point current FCA dealership always strikes me as slimy and depressing.. how can they compete with their competitors on a customer relations level?

For those of you who are old enough to remember, Brian Jessel had a Ferrari / Maserati dealership on Venables, near the La Casa Gelato. There was an Alfa Romeo sign as well, but I was never sure if he was trying to sell imported models or simply act as a service centre for Alfa Romeo owners (they're bloody simple cars anyway.)

I can see the business prospect of carrying Alfa Romeo's higher end / performance models alongside Maserati and Ferrari, but maybe not the Mito hahaha

[thumper]

bcrdukes is correct (i'm old)... the old location was back to back with general paint, which was west of octagon motors (is octagon still around? :confused: )

[bcrdukes]

Yes, Octagon Motors is still around and strong. :)

The Ferrari / Maserati dealership was there for a short while - it didn't last very long. And yes, it was west of Octagon Motors, a block or two west of Clark Drive across from La Casa Gelato (which is now a printing shop.)

The dealership had a short run, then moved to I think W. 2nd & Quebec, then somehow got quashed (I'm sure there was a story in The Vancouver Sun about it.)

From an optics point of view, I feel that selling the Alfa Romeo alongside the Fiats dilute the brand, but I guess that's an agreement that was decided by FCA. I recall taking the Fiat 500 Abarth for a test drive earlier in the year from Fiat of Vancouver, and yes, I had to deal with slimy sales people. I knew right away it wasn't the right place for me to buy a car, not the right car for me. The dealership in Richmond was no better, nor was Carter. :heckno:

[Mancini]

I wonder if this is a 488 motor with 2 cylinders lopped off. The displacement and power output fits.

[a00755836]

i still want one...