[46_valentinor]

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[RevYouUp]

Damn that thing stopped pretty quick, you might be able to argue that he should have ran the yellow. Not entirely sure though..

[MG1]

^wut?

[godwin]

I think there should be a first rule on the internet.. never ever share self incriminating evidence

Since you have shared the video already, there is no way to fight this. Whether it is "just" a screw dent or full blown airbag + write off, you hit the car in front of you, you are at fault.

Just admit it, take the penalty and move on.

[TheSalesman]

Your best option is to pay off the damage done to the car. It might cost you 400-800 to repair or replace the bumper. I rear ended a car long time ago and it was just a small scuff. But because it was a new car, they bought a brand new bumper and I paid about $800. But my insurance doesn't go up. That's your best option. If you decide to let icbc pay for it, your insurance can sometimes triple depending on the discount level you are at.

[twitchyzero]

afaik there's really no way to fight rear enders anyways unless someone completely cuts you off. May be offer to pay OoP?

i was in a similar situation years back as it was raining. Zero damage and we went our separate ways luckily, since then I keep a fair distance...and always anticipate the light change with stale greens, esp a busy intersection like granville & bway

[46_valentinor]

I think there should be a first rule on the internet.. never ever share self incriminating evidence

Since you have shared the video already, there is no way to fight this. Whether it is "just" a screw dent or full blown airbag + write off, you hit the car in front of you, you are at fault.

Just admit it, take the penalty and move on.
Im not ashamed of the fact that this is guaranteed to be my fault, I'm just feeling shitty that the guy in front didn't go through the yellow when he was approximately 5 feet away from the intersection when the light changed to yellow. Normal drivers would have gone through and it just seemed like he wasn't even paying attention to the road as he was swerving all over the lane. In addition, he came to a complete stop before the light even turned red if you look closely.
I don't know, you guys can watch it as entertainment. Ill most likely have to suck it up and pay for his new bumper anyways since I was the one who rear-ended him and didn't pay close enough attention to the crosswalk signal. =/

[v_tec]

Sorry, I know it probably appear a lot different in real life than on video.
But weren't you going a lot slower around 00:13-17...as compared to 00:20?

It might seem you were [originally] planning to run the yellow/red too?

[46_valentinor]

Sorry, I know it probably appear a lot different in real life than on video.
But weren't you going a lot slower around 00:13-17...as compared to 00:20?

It might seem you were [originally] planning to run the yellow/red too?
nono, I was just keeping up with the pace of the traffic. L
Note to self, remove front plate and bracket so there won't be anymore screw dents next time I rear end someone. lol

[FerrariEnzo]

video is private :confused:

[AstulzerRZD]

Im not ashamed of the fact that this is guaranteed to be my fault, I'm just feeling shitty that the guy in front didn't go through the yellow when he was approximately 5 feet away from the intersection when the light changed to yellow. Normal drivers would have gone through and it just seemed like he wasn't even paying attention to the road as he was swerving all over the lane. In addition, he came to a complete stop before the light even turned red if you look closely.
I don't know, you guys can watch it as entertainment. Ill most likely have to suck it up and pay for his new bumper anyways since I was the one who rear-ended him and didn't pay close enough attention to the crosswalk signal. =/

If the driver was truly as erratic as you've mentioned, seems like a good enough way to argue for 75/25 or 50/50 fault with ICBC.. They love those (Both people's premiums increase).

[fliptuner]

I agree with those that say take it through ICBC and just reimburse them, so as not to affect your premiums. Submit the video if he was driving poorly. It won't change anything for you but if he's partially at fault and has to pay too, it'll make for a good lesson.

[ADubs07]

ICBC will hold you 100% liable for sure. They will argue that you are supposed to leave enough room between yourself and the car ahead of you.

[mickz]

Damn that thing stopped pretty quick, you might be able to argue that he should have ran the yellow. Not entirely sure though..

That's the worst argument I've ever heard.

[46_valentinor]

just an update.
the other party is claiming that his old back pain came back and will be claiming for medical expenses. He even has a freaked lawyer....wow. this sux.

[dvst8]

back pain from that minor hit? Dudes working the system...

[twitchyzero]

will icbc even side with him for the medical expenses if OP barely kissed his rear bumper? Send the video in as further proof if you havent already.

[underscore]

Back pain from what? Hard to tell but in the video it looks like he doesn't even move in his car when the impact occurred.

[fliptuner]

All bitches ain't women.

[Inaii]

If the accident was under 30km/hr, ICBC will most likely deny his injury claim. Especially if he had a pre-existing injury (happened to me when my brother and I were rear-ended a few years ago).

[T4RAWR]

Im not ashamed of the fact that this is guaranteed to be my fault, I'm just feeling shitty that the guy in front didn't go through the yellow when he was approximately 5 feet away from the intersection when the light changed to yellow. Normal drivers would have gone through and it just seemed like he wasn't even paying attention to the road as he was swerving all over the lane. In addition, he came to a complete stop before the light even turned red if you look closely.
I don't know, you guys can watch it as entertainment. Ill most likely have to suck it up and pay for his new bumper anyways since I was the one who rear-ended him and didn't pay close enough attention to the crosswalk signal. =/



Believe it or not, in British Columbia a yellow traffic light tells you that you must stop before you enter the intersection! Yes, I know that there is one caveat to that statement, and it is "unless the stop cannot be made in safety." The onus is on the driver that does not stop for the yellow light to show that it was unsafe if they are involved in court proceedings because of their decision.


A Yellow Traffic Light Means Stop | DriveSmartBC (http://drivesmartbc.ca/intersections/yellow-traffic-light-means-stop)

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[Korrax]

100% ur fault. Sorry this happened. And its too bad people abuse and lie saying they have health issues or pain. If he has back problems from that bump ... well then I don't know how he survives everyday life.

[capt_slo]

Too many people treat collisions like winning lottery tickets. Hope ICBC denies that bullshit back injury.

[smoothie.]

that video should help your case, as well as estimators looking at the damage on the bumper cover.

[Gumby]

just an update.
the other party is claiming that his old back pain came back and will be claiming for medical expenses. He even has a freaked lawyer....wow. this sux.
Before this latest turn of events, most of us were suggesting that you just pay for the other car's repairs.

Now, you should still do that, but definitely submit the video to ICBC to help fight the BS "back pain as a result of this accident" claim.

[Dragon-88]

Before this latest turn of events, most of us were suggesting that you just pay for the other car's repairs.

Now, you should still do that, but definitely submit the video to ICBC to help fight the BS "back pain as a result of this accident" claim.

LOL the fact that he bends over and tries to find scratches right after getting out the car tell me the impact caused no harm to his back at all. Talk about trying to scam the system. Does the other driver know you have it on dash cam?

[VR6GTI]

Now that the insured has claimed injuries you cannot pay back ICBC for the vehicle damage and not loose your discount. You will eventually be sued by the other party if he wants to keep escalating the injury claim.

[smoothie.]

Now that the insured has claimed injuries you cannot pay back ICBC for the vehicle damage and not loose your discount. You will eventually be sued by the other party if he wants to keep escalating the injury claim.

what if injury is denied?

[VR6GTI]

what if injury is denied?
doesn't matter icbc still had to get one of there lawyers involved with the case if the other insured does have a lawyer.

[vitaminG]

Doesn't matter, icbc won't let you pay out a claim if someone claims injury. Injury claim can persist for years even if it's bogus. I got screwed over on a tiny little fender bender like this myself.

Problem is that everybody always claims an injury no matter what now days

[meme405]

Doesn't matter, icbc won't let you pay out a claim if someone claims injury. Injury claim can persist for years even if it's bogus. I got screwed over on a tiny little fender bender like this myself.

Problem is that everybody always claims an injury no matter what now days

Wow that sucks.

Cause ICBC will shut down his injury claim in like 2 seconds flat with that video, and the damage to the vehicle.

If the guy chooses to escalate it, he would really only be wasting his and his lawyers time. Don't even know why a lawyer would take such an obviously bogus case, I mean I understand how injury claim lawyers work, but this case isn't even going to be worth the paper it will end up printed on.

On another note, I hope this guy gets into a real car accident one day, so he can understand the pain of real injuries. Beta ass bitch.

[46_valentinor]

update.
the reason why the driver is claiming injuries is because he said he was involved in another accident 3 months ago. And no, he doesn't know I have a dashcam.
I've been reading and researching a lot on low speed accidents and it seems like icbc will most likely dismiss the health claims under the "low velocity program," however if he goes to court, which i guess why he has a lawyer, then the judge will usually grant the plaintiff about 20-30 thousand dollars since low speed impacts doesn't equate to no injuries.

[Reeyal]

Yeah... there is no way for you to fight for that accident to be in your favor. A rear-end is almost always your fault, unless the other driver cut you off and you can prove that he did not leave you enough room to slow down or stop.

My recommendation is to pay off the vehicle claim damages. If you let your insurance pay for it, you will pay it off 2 to 3 times that amount over the years.

[rriggi]

Sucks OP,

As everyone has said you will be totally at fault, pay the for his bumper if the damage is minor enough to make it worthwhile.

100% submit the video as fraud for an injury claim, MF's like this are the reason insurance rates go up for all of us. As Im sure, all of us who pay ICBC for insurance are thankful for you having a dashcam.

[vitaminG]

everyone keeps saying to pay it out. but again you cannot pay out a claim when theres an injury. even if its just a minor tap on the bumper, you cant pay it.

for those who think its stupid i agree, we have a shitty system in BC. we should have a no-fault system which significantly reduces fraudulent claims. Right now hardly anyone claims an injury if theyre at fault, but if anyone isnt at fault for even the most minor tap they claim everything under the sun, we are all paying for this fraud