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Stage 3 Water Restriction
FerrariEnzo
07-20-2015, 06:42 PM
Stage 3 water restrictions effective immediately for Metro Vancouver (http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/07/stage-3-water-restrictions-starting-tomorrow/)
For those lazy to click
UPDATE: Stage 3 water restrictions effective immediately according to Metro Vancouver.
Metro Vancouver has confirmed that starting Tuesday, Stage 3 water restrictions will come into effect.
Until further notice, watering lawns and washing cars will be prohibited.
Prohibited under Stage 3 water restrictions:
No watering lawns (both residential and non-residential)
No outdoor washing or rinsing of cars and pleasure crafts (boats), except for safety (windows, lights, licenses)
No watering cemetery lawns
Restricted under Stage 3 water restrictions:
Watering flowers and vegetable gardens, decorative planters, shrubs and trees – only if done by hand
Refilling private pools, spas, garden ponds
Click here for more information on what Stage 3 water restrictions mean.
RRxtar
07-20-2015, 06:50 PM
that is absolutely unbelievable. 1 day a week was pretty extreme, i think full prohibition is unprecedented.
its kind of scary to think what's going to happen in the next few years if this drought continues, or even gets worse.
H.Specter
07-20-2015, 06:52 PM
^ just look at california 2015
http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/data/jpg/current/current_ca_trd.jpg
^but Tom Selleck..........
RRxtar
07-20-2015, 07:09 PM
this is the scary shit tho
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/551d95fa69beddda50c2b3a3-960/california_heat.jpg
i cant find it but theres a video or a gif that shows a full USA map showing how the drought is growing from where it started to now reaching up into BC and spreading to texas
hi-revs
07-20-2015, 07:10 PM
This is just for precautions incase we dont see enough rainfall by October to replenish the reservoir for more important things like showering, doing dishes and laundry.
Euro7r
07-20-2015, 07:34 PM
Since this is a car forum, as much as I baby my car. I don't care if the car is dirty anymore (waxed it way before water restrictions came into effect lol). I think about how many unfortunate people don't even have water to drink in other places, makes me think twice before I use unnecessary water.
meme405
07-20-2015, 07:50 PM
I don't understand are people upset they aren't allowed to wash their cars?
1st world problems much?
Besides it hasnt rained in over a month, most road going cars should easily be washed with any waterless car wash or quick detailer.
As far as watering your grass goes, who gives a fuck, grass is useless. I remember a shocking study which showed that watering lawns in the United States actually utilized more water than all of the agricultural industry (Fuck me if I can find the article/study now). All grass does is look nice, in fact it's not even a good oxygen producer, among plants it's actually one of the worst for oxygen production 1 average tree (depending on size and type) will produce as much oxygen as an entire football field.
http://www.remodelingmadeeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/graph-300x245.jpg
It's why california is telling people to rip up their lawns and put in cactus' or whatever, they simply don't have the water to continue to waste it on useless shit like pretty grass.
tonyzoomzoom
07-20-2015, 07:51 PM
maybe it's time to install residential water meters. This way, instead of telling all the residential what and when they can and cannot use their water for, it will let the residents decide how much and where they want to use the water.
Manic!
07-20-2015, 07:58 PM
You can still wash your car you just have to use a waterless car wash product like FW1.
HIGH PERFORMANCE CLEANING WAX IN AN AEROSOL CAN (http://www.fw1shine.com/)
meme405
07-20-2015, 08:02 PM
maybe it's time to install residential water meters. This way, instead of telling all the residential what and when they can and cannot use their water for, it will let the residents decide how much and where they want to use the water.
Don't know where you live, but west vancouver has been on meters since like 2009.
North vancouver should be transitioned over before next summer.
Water meters are on their way, just takes forever to roll them out.
EDIT: Actually interesting point, when my house first got switched from a flat rate to meter, I was saving money, not much, but my overall yearly water bill went down. Then after a couple years they upped the cost of the water a couple times and eventually I was back at where I had been before. If we were still at the house I probably would be spending much more on water.
Then again when people are aware you can easily install some rain catchers and a couple of drums to store water for your yard and non-potable uses. Some low flow toilets, and a little bit of conservation, and most people could probably reduce their water usage by a shit load. Truth is most of us are wasteful little shit bags, I'm guilty too, I take longer showers, I sometimes run the water while brushing my teeth, etc.
SkinnyPupp
07-20-2015, 08:04 PM
that is absolutely unbelievable. 1 day a week was pretty extreme, i think full prohibition is unprecedented.
its kind of scary to think what's going to happen in the next few years if this drought continues, or even gets worse.
For now it's just an aberration due to a ridiculously hot and dry summer, but eventually it will always be like this. Especially in California
EuterVanWasser
07-20-2015, 08:06 PM
maybe it's time to install residential water meters. This way, instead of telling all the residential what and when they can and cannot use their water for, it will let the residents decide how much and where they want to use the water.
This.
It pisses me off to no end that the people in the fancy new houses on my street have automatically timed in ground sprinklers that come on 7 days per week between midnight and 5am so no one catches them.
Meanwhile, I've dropped $1,500 to install low flow dual flush toilets, we switched the kids up to shower only instead of baths (like 5 years ago) and generally do what we can to conserve water.
If water in all municipalities in the GVRD was metered, I think that would change behavior in a hurry.
6o4__boi
07-20-2015, 08:07 PM
iirc poco has water meters...dunno how sophisticated they are but apparently they only measure by block and not per residence
Anyways, if this goes on let's just start an RS water bottle company...we can get great rates on water
:troll:
Energy
07-20-2015, 08:15 PM
Why does it say outdoor washing for cars? Does that mean we can still wash our cars in our garages or apartment buildings? Seems silly to have the word "outdoor" there.
LightKeeper
07-20-2015, 08:21 PM
California..
From zero to flash flood
Heavy Rain, Flooding as Sunday Storm Sweeps Through San Diego County | NBC 7 San Diego (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Heavy-Rain-Flooding-Expected-as-Sunday-Storm-Sweeps-Through-San-Diego-County-317360901.html)
HonestTea
07-20-2015, 08:21 PM
So it's currently stage 2 until 12am(Tuesday)?
godwin
07-20-2015, 08:27 PM
Depending on your definition of "new".. Houses since 2000s have individual meters. It is likely your neighbors already have meters and also a cistern to store water.
If you want to see how much water you use, you can ask your city to install a meter at your house. Right now it is opt in.
This.
It pisses me off to no end that the people in the fancy new houses on my street have automatically timed in ground sprinklers that come on 7 days per week between midnight and 5am so no one catches them.
Meanwhile, I've dropped $1,500 to install low flow dual flush toilets, we switched the kids up to shower only instead of baths (like 5 years ago) and generally do what we can to conserve water.
If water in all municipalities in the GVRD was metered, I think that would change behavior in a hurry.
v_tec
07-20-2015, 08:32 PM
So it's currently stage 2 until 12am(Tuesday)?
http://i59.tinypic.com/142ebr4.jpg
HonestTea
07-20-2015, 08:34 PM
Lol thanks. Got confused since it also states "starting Tuesday"
RRxtar
07-20-2015, 08:56 PM
The thing with lawns is you can still have a lawn, but use a fraction of the amount of water. You just need to do it properly.
I own a Landscaping company and Id say 98% of properties I see have terrible installs. If you put down a good 5-6" of high quality top soil before you put your lawn in, you're going to have a layer of soil in your lawn's root zone that will keep moisture in it for several days before it dries out, even in july and august. The problem is most installers are cheap and cut corners and you're lucky to get an inch on top of a gravel 'fill' base. Gravel holds NO moisture, and actually causes people to waste water. since the gravel doesn't hold moisture, the grass dries out, so people water longer. Except the gravel still doesn't hold moisture so all that extra water just soaks right thru and does nothing. I deal with this every day.
As a member of the IIABC (irrigation industry association of BC), contractors have access to a quite elaborate calculator that takes the evapo-transpiration rate (amount of water that leaves the soil to evaporation and transpiration within plants), fairly precise location, the exposure, plant density, and most importantly measured soil layers, and will tell you exactly how much water you need per week, how many days per week you need to water, and how many milimeters of water you need per watering, to maintain moisture levels in the soil. It will tell you the watering rate at which you reach saturation and cause run off (waste) Its incredible how that amount changes when yo go from a sandy/gravel soil to a good loam.
On top of that, there are growers producing new blends of turf that root deeper and require less than 20% the water that normal kentucky blue grass requires, as little as 1 inch per month.
doritos
07-20-2015, 09:00 PM
does this only apply to vancouver area or lower mainland as well? Do they have seperate reservoirs for each city?
Tapioca
07-20-2015, 09:18 PM
Water restrictions are going to become the norm in the future. Summers are getting longer and more humid in Metro Vancouver. So much for paradise, eh?
does this only apply to vancouver area or lower mainland as well? Do they have seperate reservoirs for each city?
Metro Vancouver
belka
07-20-2015, 09:22 PM
I don't understand, Vancouver is next to the ocean..
https://everythingsimpsons.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/boyscoutz4.jpg?w=655
twitchyzero
07-20-2015, 09:29 PM
Water restrictions are going to become the norm in the future. Summers are getting longer and more humid in Metro Vancouver. So much for paradise, eh?
:rukidding: I'll take this weather over doom and gloom 8 months out of the year, tyvm
Any time I'm sweating my balls off I refrain from complaining because this is still nothing compared to the humidity in east asia or the oven heat in Nevada/Arizona/NM/Utah
ime2006
07-20-2015, 09:43 PM
I don't understand, Vancouver is next to the ocean..
https://everythingsimpsons.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/boyscoutz4.jpg?w=655
Its nothing to do with how close to the ocean.
As I remember Its got something to do with the soil holding water...etc
Mr.HappySilp
07-20-2015, 09:46 PM
this is the scary shit tho
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/551d95fa69beddda50c2b3a3-960/california_heat.jpg
i cant find it but theres a video or a gif that shows a full USA map showing how the drought is growing from where it started to now reaching up into BC and spreading to texas
What I don't get is yes we still have a ton of under ground water for now. But what about in the next 10years, 30 years, 50 years. Shouldn't we try to stop the extraction of underground right now to make sure there are actually enough water for us to use in the future. Yes I am talking about the whole Nestea thing. Sure the water they are extracting from BC is like a tiny drop now but not in the future. Since drought is getting worse and worse in the states, Canada and other parts of the world we should really protect our water for future.......
Gh0stRider
07-20-2015, 09:48 PM
so, would you NARC on your neighbour?
http://i.imgur.com/5s9MMAy.jpg
Noizz
07-20-2015, 09:52 PM
I don't understand, Vancouver is next to the ocean..
https://everythingsimpsons.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/boyscoutz4.jpg?w=655
:rukidding: Because... it needs to be desalinated... and desalination requires a lot of energy...
It doesn't make sense for us to desalinate ocean water when there is "fresh" water around us.
jeedee
07-20-2015, 09:58 PM
So...what exactly happens to someone if they get 'caught' doing something prohibited with water :smug:
fliptuner
07-20-2015, 10:00 PM
So...what exactly happens to someone if they get 'caught' doing something prohibited with water :smug:
They take your water away. :pokerface:
Probably a bylaw fine. How much, I have no clue.
Gh0stRider
07-20-2015, 10:09 PM
each city is different.
I've heard of $200-$500 for some
winson604
07-20-2015, 10:10 PM
so, would you NARC on your neighbour?
http://i.imgur.com/5s9MMAy.jpg
My office takes complaints in Van, we easily get over 100/day
rslater
07-20-2015, 10:24 PM
When our building was having the water tested last year, the environmental officer told me that the Molson Canadian Factory on Burrard used 1/3 of all Vancouvers water supply each day for production and cleaning the tanks. They paid millions in water fees.
Also, California's biggest water use comes from animal agriculture. Convincing people not to water there lawns is great, but putting a wrench in the cattle industry would have a far greater impact.
rageguy
07-20-2015, 10:29 PM
so, would you NARC on your neighbour?
http://i.imgur.com/5s9MMAy.jpg
Totally. My lawn is straight up yellow, haven't watered it for over a month. I see my neighbours (plural) watering their lawn using a hose every day in July. I'm going to narc them tomorrow with video footage.
Tapioca
07-20-2015, 10:30 PM
:rukidding: I'll take this weather over doom and gloom 8 months out of the year, tyvm
Any time I'm sweating my balls off I refrain from complaining because this is still nothing compared to the humidity in east asia or the oven heat in Nevada/Arizona/NM/Utah
Our winters are becoming drier. We need it to rain 8-9 months of the year so we have enough water for the 2-3 months of summer we get. It's not like we have snowpacks to sustain us for an extended period.
RickyTan3
07-20-2015, 10:31 PM
AND nestle is still paying 2.25 per MILLION Liters of water
entrax
07-20-2015, 10:54 PM
AND nestle is still paying 2.25 per MILLION Liters of water
misinformation.
nestle is paying an admin fee of 2.25/million litres.
in short summary since this isn't the thread for it: the difference in "paying" or "admin fees" is huge. if you change it to "paying", a few things to consider: NAFTA, sale of commodity, not having full control of restrictions, etc.
carisear
07-20-2015, 11:34 PM
Our winters are becoming drier. We need it to rain 8-9 months of the year so we have enough water for the 2-3 months of summer we get. It's not like we have snowpacks to sustain us for an extended period.
I thought the majority WAS from snowpacks?
Mining
07-21-2015, 12:07 AM
Raincouver begging for rain... that is a first..
RickyTan3
07-21-2015, 01:24 AM
misinformation.
nestle is paying an admin fee of 2.25/million litres.
in short summary since this isn't the thread for it: the difference in "paying" or "admin fees" is huge. if you change it to "paying", a few things to consider: NAFTA, sale of commodity, not having full control of restrictions, etc.
Please educate me then sir.
From what I am reading even if it is admin fee, they are paying only $500 per year for admin fee. Thats pretty ridiculously low.
How much are they paying for water then?
edit:
http://www.news1130.com/2015/07/19/would-charging-nestle-more-for-water-impact-international-trade/
Trying to find more information because you said I have "misinformation".
So practically the water is free and they only charge admin fee.
stewie
07-21-2015, 05:30 AM
So...what exactly happens to someone if they get 'caught' doing something prohibited with water :smug:
They take your water away. :pokerface:
Probably a bylaw fine. How much, I have no clue.
each city is different.
I've heard of $200-$500 for some
I work for the waterworks dept in a certain city.
although fines are given, first they must receive a 1st and 2nd warning. If you have a douche bag neighbor you don't like and its within 6:30am - 11pm, feel free to report him and someone will be sent out. he has to visually see them doing so. If its midnight, you can call them in, its a 24/7/365 dispatch, but they most likely wont send anyone out after 11pm (the final crew stops at 11). The fine - its a whopping 75$ for the first offense. We haven't even given a 2nd out yet so its been decent.
exemptions - people who have permits. yes, its pathetic. I believe city hall sold them for 30$. You just have to state the reason for it. pesticides - gardens - new sod. Ive seen quite a few houses plant random plants from gardenworks in the middle of their lawn just so they can keep their sprinkler on. Although permits are no longer being issued, they will be honored until Aug 1st.
You can water your garden using a spring nozzled hose. something where you have complete control over where the water is going and spend 15 minutes watering a garden then be done.
As for water meters, as good as they sound, it would take YEARS to install them. Despite how bad of a reputation city workers have for being lazy, this would be just to much of a job to do...theres only roughly 35 people who maintain the entire city's water (aside from metrovan). There's simply other jobs that are way more important than putting in a water meter, and it can't be contracted out. Contractors are NOT allowed to touch city property...I can't tell you how many times I've caught Milanis plumbing hooked up to a fire hydrant without our awareness....not a cheap fine....HUGE fine. On a daily basis there's household water lines that break. Each one takes roughly 4 hours to fix on a 3/4" copper service line. Now imagine doing that for all the houses.
belka
07-21-2015, 06:32 AM
Its nothing to do with how close to the ocean.
As I remember Its got something to do with the soil holding water...etc
:rukidding: Because... it needs to be desalinated... and desalination requires a lot of energy...
It doesn't make sense for us to desalinate ocean water when there is "fresh" water around us.
:facepalm:
BoostedBB6
07-21-2015, 06:58 AM
Its strange, everywhere around where I live has restrictions but there are currently none where I am.
Also, something to look into if you are someone who normally does not water there lawn and is a home owner. Read through your insurance information. I recently found out that if you let your law become excessively dry that it is easy for a fire to start and you end up having a fire due to dry grass you may not be covered. Even more issues if you have an automated sprinkler system like we have.
Having seen and lived through multiple forest fires in my life, I see the benefit of having a lawn watered.
looks like we'll just have to urinate on our lawns to keep it watered.
but then you'd get narc'd on when lawns are green due to said urination
Lomac
07-21-2015, 08:19 AM
Please educate me then sir.
From what I am reading even if it is admin fee, they are paying only $500 per year for admin fee. Thats pretty ridiculously low.
How much are they paying for water then?
edit:
Would charging Nestle more for BC water impact international trade? - NEWS 1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2015/07/19/would-charging-nestle-more-for-water-impact-international-trade/)
Trying to find more information because you said I have "misinformation".
So practically the water is free and they only charge admin fee.
Holy crap, people need to stop getting angry at Nestle for this. Only reason people are focused on them is because they're the most visible. They're simply doing the same thing that a ton of other companies (mining comes to mind) and people with ground wells are doing. Blame the government if you want to get angry at someone - they're simply doing what the government has allowed. Nothing more.
Lomac
07-21-2015, 08:21 AM
Its strange, everywhere around where I live has restrictions but there are currently none where I am.
Also, something to look into if you are someone who normally does not water there lawn and is a home owner. Read through your insurance information. I recently found out that if you let your law become excessively dry that it is easy for a fire to start and you end up having a fire due to dry grass you may not be covered. Even more issues if you have an automated sprinkler system like we have.
Having seen and lived through multiple forest fires in my life, I see the benefit of having a lawn watered.
Yeah, up here the only restrictions are one day on, one day off for watering. But being in the BC Interior, I imagine it likely has something to do with helping prevent forest fires. And yeah, my home insurance becomes void if the lawn around the house dries out. One of the many fine print points that most insurers don't talk about.
meme405
07-21-2015, 08:45 AM
Holy crap, people need to stop getting angry at Nestle for this. Only reason people are focused on them is because they're the most visible. They're simply doing the same thing that a ton of other companies (mining comes to mind) and people with ground wells are doing. Blame the government if you want to get angry at someone - they're simply doing what the government has allowed. Nothing more.
Blame vancity buzz, the sheep that follow that idiotic website don't know shit, and all vancity buzz does is overhype and blow stories out of proportion in order to garner more clicks.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nestle just got tired of this crap shut down their operation, fired all 100 employees, and moved elsewhere.
Same goes for a lot of industrial operations, people keep putting us down, and making us to be the enemy, whether it be related to water, or the environment or whatever. Go ahead keep putting us down, and trying to stop our operations. Cause the moment we can't get a job in mining, or oil sands, we're just going to move back into the city and take all your jobs.
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On a different note it was raining pretty hard in parts of burnaby on my way into the office this morning.
stewie
07-21-2015, 09:20 AM
Edit to my previous post
As of today, no warnings will be issued anymore.
I've already received dozens of call today of pissed off neighbors. We go, take a pic, and your fined...no its ands or buts.
Permits will be honored until the 9th, not the first****
westopher
07-21-2015, 09:38 AM
:rukidding: Because... it needs to be desalinated... and desalination requires a lot of energy...
It doesn't make sense for us to desalinate ocean water when there is "fresh" water around us.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/483/894/463.jpg
fliptuner
07-21-2015, 09:50 AM
Permits will be honored until the 9th, not the first****
From my understanding, lawn watering permits are cancelled at Stage 3. My buddy put down new turf, got a permit and apparently, can't continue to water it.
3rd down:
http://d2x3wmakafwqf5.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/112/files/2015/07/Metro-Water-Capture1.png
quasi
07-21-2015, 09:56 AM
From my understanding, lawn watering permits are cancelled at Stage 3. My buddy put down new turf, got a permit and apparently, can't continue to water it.
3rd down:
http://d2x3wmakafwqf5.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/112/files/2015/07/Metro-Water-Capture1.png
Doesn't it say no new permits will be issued? I don't see anything about cancelling existing permits. I could be wrong though, I'd call the city and get clarification if I was him.
fliptuner
07-21-2015, 10:09 AM
"All forms of watering using treated drinking water are prohibited"
I read it as including those with permits.
winson604
07-21-2015, 11:32 AM
Doesn't it say no new permits will be issued? I don't see anything about cancelling existing permits. I could be wrong though, I'd call the city and get clarification if I was him.
What happens if you water during Stage 3 watering restrictions
Water exemption permits are not issued during Stage 3 watering restrictions. Water Exemption Permits will be revoked in the event that the GVRD (Metro Vancouver) activates Stage 3 or Stage 4 of the Water Shortage Response Plan, By-law 8912. Refunds will not be issued.
If you water your lawn during the Stage 3 watering restrictions, you could be fined $250. The City actively patrols for violations.
About the watering restrictions | City of Vancouver (http://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/about-the-watering-restrictions.aspx)
I just got back from a short trip to the US. I asked chick at the casino, who was watering the hanging baskets on the propert, if there was a watering ban in Washington. She had no idea what banning water meant. The server at Jack in the Box in Bellingham was ust as puzzled. Sprinklers on everywhere. I guess their water shed is still unaffected.
Anyway, back to Tom Selleck......
Tom Selleck settles water theft lawsuit in California - Arts & Entertainment - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/tom-selleck-settles-water-theft-lawsuit-in-california-1.3155464)
22K is a drop in the bucket.
Gumby
07-21-2015, 01:24 PM
Anyway, back to Tom Selleck......
Tom Selleck settles water theft lawsuit in California - Arts & Entertainment - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/tom-selleck-settles-water-theft-lawsuit-in-california-1.3155464)
22K is a drop in the bucket.
No pun intended! :p
you're just way too quick
punkwax
07-21-2015, 01:36 PM
Private and commercial outdoor impermeable surface washing (such as, driveways, sidewalks, and parkades):
Only for health and safety purposes or to prepare a surface for painting or similar treatment. Washing for aesthetic purposes is prohibited.
True story, I finished a tree fort for the kids yesterday and mounted a slide from an older playset on it. The slide is dirty. I wanted to pressure wash it for aesthetics initially, but the dust caked on it has actually made it ridiculously fast and I think cleaning it would slow it down for safety... do I risk it!?
I was also considering bucket of soapy water and hosing it off afterward but the damn slide has as much surface area as my Honda Fit so I think I'm kinda screwed until this ban lifts :lol
From my understanding, lawn watering permits are cancelled at Stage 3. My buddy put down new turf, got a permit and apparently, can't continue to water it.
3rd down:
http://d2x3wmakafwqf5.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/112/files/2015/07/Metro-Water-Capture1.png
We had a nematode treatment permit that's now been nullified with the bump up to stage 3. I was planning on doing the treatment tomorrow night too. There goes $60 down the drain since the store won't refund the packs for obvious reasons..
Gerbs
07-21-2015, 01:44 PM
Are you allowed to use one of those commercial pressure washing stations
kkthind
07-21-2015, 04:27 PM
Are you allowed to use one of those commercial pressure washing stations
Water Restrictions Metro Vancouver (http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/water/conservation-reservoir-levels/lawn-sprinkling/Pages/default.aspx)
Stage 3 Prohibitions
Lawn sprinkling is prohibited;
Municipal exemption permits for new‐lawns or nematode application are prohibited;
Watering of trees, shrubs, flowers, decorative planters and vegetable gardens by sprinklers or soaker hoses is prohibited;
Private pressure washing is prohibited;
Washing of driveways, sidewalks and parkades for aesthetic purposes is prohibited;
Washing of all cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats and other recreational and vehicles is prohibited;
Golf course fairway watering is prohibited;
Cemetery lawns - all forms of watering are prohibited;
Municipal parks - all forms of watering are prohibited;
Operation of ornamental fountains is prohibited;
Filling or refilling of private swimming pools, hot tubs and garden ponds is prohibited.
Stage 3 Permitted Uses
Hand watering of trees, shrubs, flowers, decorative planters and vegetable gardens using a spring-loaded shutoff nozzle, containers or a drip irrigation system is permitted;
Watering of turf at turf farms or flowers and vegetables at commercial gardens is permitted.
Hosing of outdoor surfaces (e.g. driveways, sidewalks, roofs) if required to avoid public health and safety concerns or to prepare a surface for painting/sealing or similar treatment is permitted;
Commercial pressure washing for health and safety purposes or to prepare surface for painting or similar purposes is permitted;
Commercial car wash operations are permitted;
Golf course watering of greens and tee areas at minimum levels required to maintain areas in useable condition is permitted;
Sports playing field (including sand-based) and school yard watering at minimum levels as required to maintain areas in useable condition is permitted;
Artificial turf requiring wetting and outdoor tracks if required for dust control or safety reasons is permitted.
underscore
07-21-2015, 04:40 PM
Oddly enough West Kelowna has been hit with restrictions as well, but not Kelowna. Which is good because I just finished fixing my damn sprinklers.
hchang
07-21-2015, 04:56 PM
I got a monthly car wash pass
Is business as usual for car wash businesses?
hi-revs
07-21-2015, 05:05 PM
I got a monthly car wash pass
Is business as usual for car wash businesses?
Car wash businesses/stations are good to go until if/when we hit stage 4 water restrictions.
Gerbs
07-21-2015, 06:19 PM
So the self serve pressure wash stations are good to go?
Mikoyan
07-21-2015, 06:25 PM
The thing with lawns is you can still have a lawn, but use a fraction of the amount of water. You just need to do it properly.
On top of that, there are growers producing new blends of turf that root deeper and require less than 20% the water that normal kentucky blue grass requires, as little as 1 inch per month.
Are these turf blends available at retail? Or do you need contractor access?
SpartanAir
07-21-2015, 06:27 PM
I got a wash in yesterday before the Stage 3 notice. I have a spray nozzle and try to rinse as little as possible when I do it anyways.
I have an underground spot where I can wash it but I'm not gonna try to sneak any, it's just not worth it, and we really have to be more aware of our water usage. It's only gonna get harder in the future.
On a similar note, has anyone installed a gray water system? I'm sure they're quite expensive to install, especially after the fact, but it really seems like they should be required in the future; we would save so much damn fresh water...
Example:
http://www.environmentwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/greywater1.jpg
kross9
07-21-2015, 06:32 PM
All dealerships that do complementary car washes are shut down.. Detail departments / pay per wash will continue until stage 4.
What baffles me still is the fact we still sell our water (not to nestle) and no one bats an eye....
Goes to show how a bad winter will mean a really bad summer
BoostedBB6
07-21-2015, 07:03 PM
Dealers are still doing comp washes.
Everything tends to even out in the end. I bet we are gonna have a bitch of a winter.
snails
07-21-2015, 07:14 PM
Dealers are still doing comp washes.
thats a little ridiculous as most of those people getting them dont even care if their cars are clean or not.
everyone who as worked at a dealership understands what i mean when i say that ALOT of people take realllllly shitty care of their cars and only bring it in to maintain the warranty
CharlesInCharge
07-21-2015, 07:18 PM
Oregon ‘Rain Man’ Fined, Sent To Jail For Collecting Rainwater
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Boring details (video)
youtu.be/P9utdDOTOqg
All dealerships that do complementary car washes are shut down.. Detail departments / pay per wash will continue until stage 4.
What baffles me still is the fact we still sell our water (not to nestle) and no one bats an eye....
Goes to show how a bad winter will mean a really bad summer
Our dealership is still doing complimentary car washes but we're encouraging our customers to pass on them
Gerbs
07-21-2015, 08:23 PM
I got a wash in yesterday before the Stage 3 notice.
I thoguht it was effective immediately monday instead of tuesday.
frozen
07-21-2015, 08:50 PM
I got a monthly car wash pass
Is business as usual for car wash businesses?
You are fucked once we go stage 4 bro
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Good we're only at 3.
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RRxtar
07-21-2015, 09:07 PM
Oddly enough West Kelowna has been hit with restrictions as well, but not Kelowna. Which is good because I just finished fixing my damn sprinklers.
untrue. West Kelowna is in stage 1 meaning Odd/Even watering. Most of the irrigation districts in Kelowna are odd/even watering too. Infact, some of the irrigation districts are always odd/even, even in the 3 other seasons. Certain areas of Kelowna which are supplied by the regional district are on stage 2 watering restrictions to 2 days per week.
punkwax
07-21-2015, 09:08 PM
Golf course fairway watering is prohibited
Shit. I play Peace Portal on Thursday... hate hitting of concrete.
Municipal parks - all forms of watering are prohibited
Just drove by the soccer fields at Softball City. 5-6 sprinklers going strong.... considered a municipal park I would imagine.
kross9
07-21-2015, 09:12 PM
Dealers are still doing comp washes.
Our dealership is still doing complimentary car washes but we're encouraging our customers to pass on them
We had the by-laws guy go to everyone and tell us if they catch us doing complementary washes aside from say windows its not a cheap fine
RRxtar
07-21-2015, 09:12 PM
Are these turf blends available at retail? Or do you need contractor access?
not sure what you guys would have down there, but here in kelowna one of the turf farms sells full on drought tolerant blend. anyone can purchase from them, contractor or not.
Eco Turf Farms offers environmentally friendly, drought tolerant sod | Eco Turf Farms (http://www.ecoturffarms.com/products/turf/eco-smart-blend.html)
underscore
07-21-2015, 09:18 PM
untrue. West Kelowna is in stage 1 meaning Odd/Even watering. Most of the irrigation districts in Kelowna are odd/even watering too. Infact, some of the irrigation districts are always odd/even, even in the 3 other seasons. Certain areas of Kelowna which are supplied by the regional district are on stage 2 watering restrictions to 2 days per week.
Weird, the people I spoke with must have gotten it wrong then. I don't see any benefits to watering every day anyways, unless the grass is new even in the heat I don't have a problem.
SpartanAir
07-21-2015, 09:43 PM
I thoguht it was effective immediately monday instead of tuesday.
I saw an article posted monday, saying the ban would be in effect tuesday. Then later I saw one saying it started immediately. So I don't know who to believe.
Mikoyan
07-21-2015, 10:51 PM
I saw an article posted monday, saying the ban would be in effect tuesday. Then later I saw one saying it started immediately. So I don't know who to believe.
On the news it seems that some municipalities are skipping the warnings and going right to fines. Might as well err on the side of caution and start now, before your neighbors start narcing.
Gumby
07-22-2015, 12:01 AM
Can't remember where I saw/heard this, but some guy in Vancouver West said that he's going to keep watering his lawn even if he gets fined. The fines will cost less than total lawn replacement. :mad:
Ulic Qel-Droma
07-22-2015, 02:44 AM
we will never run out of water.
we'll just end up paying more for it.
desalination plants will start popping up everywhere. the cost for them will go down. as we invest in cheaper and more efficient renewable energy... those things will power the desalination plants.
water should cost more. people don't use it efficiently because it's TOO cheap.
Gh0stRider
07-22-2015, 04:51 PM
Did my patrol, no violators.
stewie
07-22-2015, 06:16 PM
We had the by-laws guy go to everyone and tell us if they catch us doing complementary washes aside from say windows its not a cheap fine
Depends what city you live in. you'd laugh at some of the fines for some cities...
-edit- - There's a certain car dealership that we've spoken with multiple times now for watering their property/garden/boulevard. They've basically said go for it and fine us, we're not stopping for a fine that's that little
I saw an article posted monday, saying the ban would be in effect tuesday. Then later I saw one saying it started immediately. So I don't know who to believe.
Ban is in full effect.
On the news it seems that some municipalities are skipping the warnings and going right to fines. Might as well err on the side of caution and start now, before your neighbors start narcing.
Yes, there are no warnings issued in stage 3.
You'd be surprised at the amount of houses that were fined today lol! I was getting non stop calls all day long. Neighbors who hate each other narcing each other out all day long hahaha
Did my patrol, no violators.
I should write down the number of fines that were handed out today, cause I sure had a LOT of violators haha
SSM_DC5
07-22-2015, 08:10 PM
^can ppl get tickets if the violator stops using water by the time the city worker arrives, but there is video proof from the person who reported it?
stewie
07-22-2015, 08:34 PM
pictures/videos have to be taken by us, sorry
you can take pics and send them to city hall and see how they want to handle it from there. if they're repeat offenders, they'll probably accept the pics/video so long as they can get there and notice that the ground/sidewalk is soaking wet
Mr.HappySilp
07-22-2015, 09:03 PM
pictures/videos have to be taken by us, sorry
you can take pics and send them to city hall and see how they want to handle it from there. if they're repeat offenders, they'll probably accept the pics/video so long as they can get there and notice that the ground/sidewalk is soaking wet
what would happen say if you are an asshole and hate your neighbour and decided one day to call the city they are watering their lawn. City guy came and that asshole pretend to be the owner of the house watering the lawn when the neighbour are out? Do they check like the ID and stuff like that or do the city just send letters out?
stewie
07-22-2015, 10:03 PM
what would happen say if you are an asshole and hate your neighbour and decided one day to call the city they are watering their lawn. City guy came and that asshole pretend to be the owner of the house watering the lawn when the neighbour are out? Do they check like the ID and stuff like that or do the city just send letters out?
There's no more letters issued, just fines.
Good question haha, as for people imitating to be the homeowner watering their lawn, we'll try to get a picture/video before we approach them that way we have proof during a dispute. How it would work out with someone saying that the person in the pic doesn't even live at this house and they've no clue who it is...that I'm not to sure on but I'll have an answer for you by 7:15am tomorrow :)
people driving in front of you and using windshield washers and you washed your car the day before the ban :facepalm:
and now you cant do shit
BoostedBB6
07-22-2015, 11:01 PM
We had the by-laws guy go to everyone and tell us if they catch us doing complementary washes aside from say windows its not a cheap fine
I suppose that depends on how you wash.
If you have an internal wash bay or do washing inside the building there is no restriction. The restriction is only for washing outside.
"Outdoor car washing and boat washing No outdoor washing or rinsing of vehicles and pleasure crafts, except for safety (windows, lights, and licenses only)."
All the local dealers to me with the exception of one do there washes inside the building and are not affected by this. Its business as usual.
StylinRed
07-22-2015, 11:19 PM
My neighbours are constantly watering their lawns, they try to be secret about it, but you can hear the sprinklers especially at night
Side note I read the title as 'Star Wars 3: Water Restriction'
twitchyzero
07-22-2015, 11:22 PM
people driving in front of you and using windshield washers and you washed your car the day before the ban :facepalm:
and now you cant do shit
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Can't remember where I saw/heard this, but some guy in Vancouver West said that he's going to keep watering his lawn even if he gets fined. The fines will cost less than total lawn replacement. :mad:
heard it on cfox radio....at stage 3 i'm ok with this if it's once a week
stewie
07-23-2015, 06:43 AM
what would happen say if you are an asshole and hate your neighbour and decided one day to call the city they are watering their lawn. City guy came and that asshole pretend to be the owner of the house watering the lawn when the neighbour are out? Do they check like the ID and stuff like that or do the city just send letters out?
Answer:
You take the ticket, dispute it, if you know who is in the picture bring them with you. If not, do your best
the new mercedes benz on cambie and shell was watering their grass last night when i was coming from from riding.
those automatic sprinklers.. EVERYWHERE
but who am i kidding, one SLS sale from a c lai will cover all the penalty cost :)
SpartanAir
07-23-2015, 08:40 AM
On the news it seems that some municipalities are skipping the warnings and going right to fines. Might as well err on the side of caution and start now, before your neighbors start narcing.
Like I said earlier, I'm not going to try to. My building is all of a sudden inventing new restrictions about other shit, and I'm trying to fight them, so I don't need any heat from narcs.
I suppose that depends on how you wash.
If you have an internal wash bay or do washing inside the building there is no restriction. The restriction is only for washing outside.
"Outdoor car washing and boat washing No outdoor washing or rinsing of vehicles and pleasure crafts, except for safety (windows, lights, and licenses only)."
All the local dealers to me with the exception of one do there washes inside the building and are not affected by this. Its business as usual.
So hold on, if I have access in an underground parkade, does that still count as inside? Or is it outside?
flagella
07-23-2015, 08:58 AM
what would happen say if you are an asshole and hate your neighbour and decided one day to call the city they are watering their lawn. City guy came and that asshole pretend to be the owner of the house watering the lawn when the neighbour are out? Do they check like the ID and stuff like that or do the city just send letters out?
Not only do you have to be an asshole but a real imbecile to that. It's so easy to be caught and the consequence won't just be a penalty.
trollguy
07-23-2015, 09:18 AM
Like I said earlier, I'm not going to try to. My building is all of a sudden inventing new restrictions about other shit, and I'm trying to fight them, so I don't need any heat from narcs.
So hold on, if I have access in an underground parkade, does that still count as inside? Or is it outside?
spoke to both metro van and city of rmd.. they both agreed wording is too vague. however general inquiries line at the city of rmd said no to indoor washing.
fliptuner
07-23-2015, 09:37 AM
So hold on, if I have access in an underground parkade, does that still count as inside? Or is it outside?
I ASSumed it's in reference to commercial vs. residential but the wording is terribly vague.
BoostedBB6
07-23-2015, 09:43 AM
Like I said earlier, I'm not going to try to. My building is all of a sudden inventing new restrictions about other shit, and I'm trying to fight them, so I don't need any heat from narcs.
So hold on, if I have access in an underground parkade, does that still count as inside? Or is it outside?
Contact the Strata of the building. Most will not allow it if there are water restrictions. In fact, I have heard that they have been shutting off the lines to the wash places in buildings because of this.
meme405
07-23-2015, 10:42 AM
Yesterday night I was wiping off my wheels using quik detailer in my parking spot, and some bitch walked out and told me I can't be washing my car.
I tried to explain to her that I was not using any water, there wasn't even a hose anywhere near my location. I literally just had a spray bottle and a microfiber cloth. She wasn't having any of that though, she kept telling me that car washing was banned.
If I wasn't worried about her fucking with my car I would have told her to fuck a hat. Instead I listened to that bullshit for almost 5 minutes while cleaning my wheels, then walked away.
shoulda used armorall or said you were spit shining and it's a bottle of spit. offer to spray her if she didn't believe you :troll:
smoothie.
07-23-2015, 10:46 AM
Yesterday night I was wiping off my wheels using quik detailer in my parking spot, and some bitch walked out and told me I can't be washing my car.
I tried to explain to her that I was not using any water, there wasn't even a hose anywhere near my location. I literally just had a spray bottle and a microfiber cloth. She wasn't having any of that though, she kept telling me that car washing was banned.
If I wasn't worried about her fucking with my car I would have told her to fuck a hat. Instead I listened to that bullshit for almost 5 minutes while cleaning my wheels, then walked away.
clean her car and then report her for washing car
Gumby
07-23-2015, 10:49 AM
Yesterday night I was wiping off my wheels using quik detailer in my parking spot, and some bitch walked out and told me I can't be washing my car.
I tried to explain to her that I was not using any water, there wasn't even a hose anywhere near my location. I literally just had a spray bottle and a microfiber cloth. She wasn't having any of that though, she kept telling me that car washing was banned.
If I wasn't worried about her fucking with my car I would have told her to fuck a hat. Instead I listened to that bullshit for almost 5 minutes while cleaning my wheels, then walked away.
Those type of people really piss me off. I'm glad that she is concerned about the water restriction, but refusing to listen to your reasoning is just mind boggling.
Mining
07-23-2015, 11:48 AM
Two nights ago I was coming home to my town house complex where I live and this was around 12:30am-1am. Some bitch was washing her car in the darkness.... my car is dirty as fuck and she got the nerve to come out at night and sneak wash her car in the corner of the complex. Came to a stop, honked the bitch and told her she can't be washing her car
smoothie.
07-23-2015, 01:34 PM
if its indoor its not in the wording.
though I called metro vancouver and any hand wash is prohibited
Gerbs
07-23-2015, 01:57 PM
^ what if you hand wash at like a self wash car wash.
v_tec
07-23-2015, 02:05 PM
the new mercedes benz on cambie and shell was watering their grass last night when i was coming from from riding.
those automatic sprinklers.. EVERYWHERE
but who am i kidding, one SLS sale from a c lai will cover all the penalty cost :)
OT, but is that even a retail location? Or is it only a body shop / servicing centre?
FerrariEnzo
07-24-2015, 05:47 AM
ITs raining..
Never been so happy about rain....
flagella
07-24-2015, 06:38 AM
Yesterday night I was wiping off my wheels using quik detailer in my parking spot, and some bitch walked out and told me I can't be washing my car.
I tried to explain to her that I was not using any water, there wasn't even a hose anywhere near my location. I literally just had a spray bottle and a microfiber cloth. She wasn't having any of that though, she kept telling me that car washing was banned.
If I wasn't worried about her fucking with my car I would have told her to fuck a hat. Instead I listened to that bullshit for almost 5 minutes while cleaning my wheels, then walked away.
Sounds exactly like the type of people who become some religious fanatic.
I washed my windows last night cuz birdshit was blocking my view.... I could've just washed my whole car :fuckthatshit:
falcon
07-24-2015, 04:09 PM
Maybe instead of trying to figure out how to get away with washing your car, don't. Think about WHY the ban is in place and stop being so small minded. Sure I know we're all car enthusiasts here and like our cars clean. Me included, but if it's STAGE 3 then there is an issue with water supply. Just abide by the rules and deal with it.
twitchyzero
07-24-2015, 04:23 PM
won't somebody think about the paint and dried bird droppings with gravel?
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bobbinka
07-24-2015, 04:59 PM
it's raining outside, just wash your car in the rain? lol
Lomac
07-24-2015, 06:20 PM
Maybe instead of trying to figure out how to get away with washing your car, don't. Think about WHY the ban is in place and stop being so small minded. Sure I know we're all car enthusiasts here and like our cars clean. Me included, but if it's STAGE 3 then there is an issue with water supply. Just abide by the rules and deal with it.
This. If you REALLY want to wash your car, go to a DIY place and bring your own sponge. Lots of car wash garages recycle their water, so the amount of water loss can be relatively minimal.
falcon
07-25-2015, 02:44 PM
The waterless stuff works pretty good too. I've used it before, back when we had the ban a number of years ago.
bartone
07-27-2015, 11:18 AM
saw my neighbor from the mainland hosing down her driveway for over an hour.... :rukidding:
i dont speak mandarin and she doesnt speak english. so its pretty damn hard to tell her there is a water restriction in place.
v_tec
07-27-2015, 11:52 AM
saw my neighbor from the mainland hosing down her driveway for over an hour.... :rukidding:
i dont speak mandarin and she doesnt speak english. so its pretty damn hard to tell her there is a water restriction in place.
Call the city and let them do the talking :troll:
melloman
07-27-2015, 12:52 PM
Day #6, neighbour this morning had auto-mated sprinklers going at 7am on the nose.
Wonder when the city will come by... already called and haven't seen shit.
--------------------
On another note: Our reservoirs are not low, they are only considered low when in comparison to other years.
The media doesn't know, and the government isn't going to talk about it.. But with all the underground reservoirs we have, and the new systems to pump water from 1 reservoir to another, we will never be in a "serious problem" with water.
We on this board understand that we need to conserve water, but there are so many people that just don't give a fuck, and those people ruin it for everyone. Thus the restrictions have to be put in place as a scare tactic.
stewie
07-27-2015, 07:17 PM
Day #6, neighbour this morning had auto-mated sprinklers going at 7am on the nose.
Wonder when the city will come by... already called and haven't seen shit.
--------------------
On another note: Our reservoirs are not low, they are only considered low when in comparison to other years.
The media doesn't know, and the government isn't going to talk about it.. But with all the underground reservoirs we have, and the new systems to pump water from 1 reservoir to another, we will never be in a "serious problem" with water.
We on this board understand that we need to conserve water, but there are so many people that just don't give a fuck, and those people ruin it for everyone. Thus the restrictions have to be put in place as a scare tactic.
so how many do we have?
for those that are ruining it for others - not saying when, but fines in some cities will be doubling pretty soon since people just don't seem to get the idea that water ban = stop wasting water
SumAznGuy
07-27-2015, 08:08 PM
Is there a level higher than stage 3 water restrictions?
My wife jokingly always says "if it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush her down"
She heard it from an old elementary school teacher who said it was a common rhyme from when they were living in California.
Level four or stage four is next.
yo das a whole...nutha...level...
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stewie
07-27-2015, 09:26 PM
Is there a level higher than stage 3 water restrictions?
My wife jokingly always says "if it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush her down"
She heard it from an old elementary school teacher who said it was a common rhyme from when they were living in California.
Yes, level 4 is next and the highest stage. If the weather stays hot and we've little to no rain, expect stage 4 to come.
What stage 4 means is basically that any water used other than drinking/cooking/bathing is banned. That includes commercial car wash stations, gardens, outdoor pools, water parks, and those huge ornamental fountains must be shut down (fountains are already shut down). People who've already bought permits from city hall will be void.
If you can....quit watering your grass, washing your cars, pressure washing your sidewalks/driveway's and quit arguing when given a ticket. If you're caught, just own up to it.
Those who ignore the ban, I'd like to say fuck you. You're making my life a living hell at work... I've enough shit to do during the day aside from listening to people snitch out their neighbors, sift through THOUSANDS of permits, and then write out a letter to each house that has been called in on.
fliptuner
07-27-2015, 09:33 PM
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Mr.HappySilp
07-27-2015, 09:38 PM
Day #6, neighbour this morning had auto-mated sprinklers going at 7am on the nose.
Wonder when the city will come by... already called and haven't seen shit.
--------------------
On another note: Our reservoirs are not low, they are only considered low when in comparison to other years.
The media doesn't know, and the government isn't going to talk about it.. But with all the underground reservoirs we have, and the new systems to pump water from 1 reservoir to another, we will never be in a "serious problem" with water.
We on this board understand that we need to conserve water, but there are so many people that just don't give a fuck, and those people ruin it for everyone. Thus the restrictions have to be put in place as a scare tactic.
Some ppl don't care even if you fine them. Rich selfish a-hole would rather their lawn looks nice. A few hundred bucks is pocket change to them. I say if you get caught twice the city have the right to shut off your water supply for 3 days, do it again 5 days.
underscore
07-27-2015, 09:52 PM
^ just base the fine on the assessed property value.
GabAlmighty
07-27-2015, 10:23 PM
My wife jokingly always says "if it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush her down"
Most any cabins/places on a sensitive septic abide by this rule. I see you don't get out much ;)
Some ppl don't care even if you fine them. Rich selfish a-hole would rather their lawn looks nice. A few hundred bucks is pocket change to them. I say if you get caught twice the city have the right to shut off your water supply for 3 days, do it again 5 days.
It's not that they don't care. It's that they value whatever it is they're doing above the cost of a ticket.
For example, I may be going to visit some friends up the Indian Arm this weekend and it's boat access only. You're damn right i'm gonna run/rinse the motor out and wash the outside of it when I get back home. Will I bitch about the ticket; no because the value of not having rusted cooling passages in the motor and a not rusty trailer outweigh the few hundred bucks of the ticket.
PS. Yes I could just avoid the trip all together.... But it's just too beautiful up there.
Gh0stRider
07-27-2015, 10:35 PM
Day #6, neighbour this morning had auto-mated sprinklers going at 7am on the nose.
Wonder when the city will come by... already called and haven't seen shit.
What city ?
bartone
07-28-2015, 02:13 AM
Call the city and let them do the talking :troll:
its already been done. richmond's water complaint line goes straight to voicemail. who knows if anything will be done.
N.V.M.
07-28-2015, 04:40 AM
squealing on your neighbour because he's using water. fuck.
Mikoyan
08-03-2015, 10:22 AM
Came home last night to see the COV bylaw officers out at 1130pm, peering at lawns on the next block over.
Didn't know they were out that late.
thumper
08-03-2015, 11:19 AM
they have to because many homeowners think they can get away with sprinkling under the covér of night... supposedly they are doing this in burnaby as well but when i called them the other day about an unrelated garbage collection issue they denied it.
Huge bird shit on my hood and it etched into the clearcoat :fuckthatshit:
Mikoyan
08-03-2015, 01:44 PM
I did my part conserving water, by being out of town for a week.
Mr.Money
08-03-2015, 03:41 PM
Came home last night to see the COV bylaw officers out at 1130pm, peering at lawns on the next block over.
Didn't know they were out that late.
that's why i wait till 2 am now :troll: and i heard when they snitch it just goes to voice mail anyway
Huge bird shit on my hood and it etched into the clearcoat :fuckthatshit:
i know that feel. my whole hood is like that now
PJSalt
^ It was only a day, took a bucket to wash it off at night... If it was a month, Imma have a hole in my hood.
FerrariEnzo
08-03-2015, 04:42 PM
I just have a few wet towel and just wipe it off the best I can.. after it dries, you can see white color from wiping it.. at least it wont stain so bad like it would if you just left it...
Gh0stRider
08-03-2015, 05:18 PM
Richmond has been out in the early morning issuing $500 tickets
thumper
08-03-2015, 05:59 PM
is anyone else in burnaby here having trouble with the tap water? in the last few hours there has been a noticable cloudiness and sediment fallout :confused:
!Yaminashi
08-03-2015, 06:20 PM
FFS just rain already!
fliptuner
08-03-2015, 06:43 PM
FFS just rain already!
The Shell down the street is only $1/cycle. Just don't use the brush lol.
stewie
08-03-2015, 07:20 PM
is anyone else in burnaby here having trouble with the tap water? in the last few hours there has been a noticable cloudiness and sediment fallout :confused:
Hey thumper, your post was over an hour ago, so whats the current situation? Is it still cloudy (millions of tiny tiny tiny air bubbles that give it a milky appearance), or has it cleared up now?
hi-revs
08-03-2015, 09:35 PM
My lawn is fairly green because i use the aquarium water that i change out to water my lawn.
125 gallon tank. Change half of it weekly. Collect it from a siphon outside into a 5 gallon bucket. dump it on to my lawn and shrubs when the pail gets full.
Great68
08-04-2015, 07:18 AM
Huge bird shit on my hood and it etched into the clearcoat :fuckthatshit:
Keep these in your glovebox:
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trollguy
08-04-2015, 03:08 PM
does it works well? even for dried on shit?
MarkyMark
08-04-2015, 03:13 PM
Keep these in your glovebox:
https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/images/media/product_variations/1008/blowups/tctxpmmk.jpg
Know where they sell these? I went back to Canadian tire to get more and it looks like they don't have them anymore
RevYouUp
08-04-2015, 06:03 PM
Just buy a quick detailer spray and MF towel to leave in your car, technique below works well
How to safely remove a dried bird dropping - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/23231-how-safely-remove-dried-bird-dropping.html)
I need to wash my car so badly... So scared of the water spots messing up my paint :(
GabAlmighty
08-04-2015, 08:08 PM
I did a road trip with each car right when the water restrictions started... So many bugs.
prolepsis
08-04-2015, 08:42 PM
Haven't tried the Autoglym wipes, but what I do is to keep baby wipes in the car, either in the glovebox or trunk. Baby wipes have some type of cleaning solution on them, so they aren't dry. Having said that, I usually have a few paper towels in the trunk as well, and often have a water bottle, so I'll often use that combo to immediately wipe off the bird poop. Main priority is to get the bird poop off ASAP, before it bakes in the sun.
Hmm, I actually don't know if all baby wipes are alcohol free or not--so they could potentially affect the clear coat. I initially figured that if it's ok for babies, it should be ok for a car, but perhaps that's not necessarily the case. Looks like some do have small amounts of alcohol as part of the cleaning solution.
[Edit. Ok, ignore my approach--there are better solutions listed in this thread.]
AzNightmare
08-04-2015, 08:53 PM
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/images/uploads/watermarked/ultimate-qd.jpg
+
https://www.hospeco.com/assets/user/images/product/256/2502-red-dz.jpg
Works so well.
I detailed my car back in June, and have been wiping my car down once a week with this combo. Car feels nice and smooth. Gets rid of bird dropping so easily.
SpartanAir
08-04-2015, 11:49 PM
All out of the GoClean Waterless at Can Tire, so I picked up some Sanszo Waterless. Seems to work pretty well; I've never cleaned my car like that before. Bought a pack of new microfibers, used a couple to clean it and a clean one to buff after. Leaves a protective coat on which hopefully keeps the dirt off a bit easier. Would definitely be easier if I didn't let it get so dirty :pokerface:
Also teaches you a lesson of how important it is to wax your car; makes cleaning so much easier.
Where have you guys bought your Waterless cleaners, and what kind do you recommend?
^Will definitely keep it up with some Quik Cleaner too
Manic!
08-05-2015, 12:00 AM
He guys come to Nanaimo and wash all the cars you want. Rent a waterfront house for 3 days only $1000.
fliptuner
08-05-2015, 12:14 AM
But then we'd be in Nanaimo. :rukidding:
:troll:
Nothing's stopping anyone from washing their car at the carwash. As long as people are conscious of the situation and aren't wasteful, I don't see a problem with it.
Manic!
08-05-2015, 12:23 AM
But then we'd be in Nanaimo. :rukidding:
:troll:
Nothing's stopping anyone from washing their car at the carwash. As long as people are conscious of the situation and aren't wasteful, I don't see a problem with it.
We got some great driving roads down here, and a awesome BBQ/fried chicken joint.
mickz
08-05-2015, 01:07 AM
Know where they sell these? I went back to Canadian tire to get more and it looks like they don't have them anymore
Use the stock locator on the website: Autoglym Bird Dropping Wipes | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/autoglym-bird-dropping-wipes-0393604p.html#.VcHSGvnKO1w)
Looks like the product is discontinued but some stores still have stock.
RevYouUp
08-05-2015, 01:13 AM
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/images/uploads/watermarked/ultimate-qd.jpg
+
https://www.hospeco.com/assets/user/images/product/256/2502-red-dz.jpg
Works so well.
I detailed my car back in June, and have been wiping my car down once a week with this combo. Car feels nice and smooth. Gets rid of bird dropping so easily.
Exactly what I use :thumbsup:
Baby wipes and paper towels :heckno:
Great68
08-05-2015, 07:05 AM
does it works well? even for dried on shit?
They've worked on shit that's a couple days old for me. The whole point of keeping them in the glovebox is so that you can clean the shit as soon as you see it so it doesn't get baked in too bad.
Great68
08-05-2015, 07:07 AM
Just buy a quick detailer spray and MF towel to leave in your car, technique below works well
From experience, Until one day the detailer bottle leaks in your trunk...
snails
08-05-2015, 08:24 AM
Washed my car in the rain a couple weeks ago... Still clean. I plan to do the same today
Gh0stRider
08-21-2015, 08:10 PM
reported someone...they getting fined $300 :)
Kilinim
08-21-2015, 08:34 PM
Post the number to report please!
Gh0stRider
08-21-2015, 09:16 PM
Post the number to report please!
contact your municipals bylaw/water conservation dept
stewie
08-21-2015, 10:04 PM
Why you should report lawn watering violations | City of Vancouver (http://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/report-a-lawn-watering-violation.aspx)
Submit it, it's just as easy.
Excelsis
08-21-2015, 11:19 PM
Does this include businesses as well.. eg property maintenance business using water from tap?
Acura604
08-31-2015, 09:18 PM
been out of town for a while. ..is this still valid with all that rain we got lately ?
Edit. Never mind
http://www.news1130.com/2015/08/31/water-restrictions-still-in-place-for-metro-vancouver-even-with-the-rain/
fliptuner
08-31-2015, 09:56 PM
News1130 was saying that the ban will probably last through September.
Gh0stRider
08-31-2015, 10:16 PM
News1130 was saying that the ban will probably last through September.
cknw was saying maybe october
VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) – Don’t let all this rain fool you, stage three water restrictions in Metro Vancouver will likely continue until the end of this month.
While reservoir recovery is happening, it’s just not enough yet.
Marilyn Towill with Metro Vancouver says the restrictions could even go into October because we are still at below normal levels for this time of year.
“This hasn’t been significant in a broader perspective yet, so not enough for us to move off of a stage three restriction yet,” says Towill. “It’s going to take quite a bit of rain to kind of move us back up into normal.”
Stage three means no lawn watering or car washing.
“We did have good adoptions of restrictions under the stage three and we really do need to that continue just to ensure that if we return to a drier pattern after this week’s rain events that they’ll have enough water to last through a longer dry spell.”
She says so far people have been pretty good at following the water restrictions.
“The rain is good, but what we’d like to see is people still being mindful of how they use the water so that we can really get through a longer dry spell.”
fliptuner
08-31-2015, 10:25 PM
The way I see it, the longer the ban, the more sun we must be getting.
No complaints here.
where can a Vancouver man get a pressure washer for 35 minutes to at least quickly wash the exterior
where can a Vancouver man get a pressure washer for 35 minutes to at least quickly wash the exterior
Just go to that self wash in Burnaby on Royal Oak.
this must be the one..
Royal Oak Station ? Services (http://royaloakcarwash.ca/services)
Acura604
09-09-2015, 06:04 PM
stage 2 metro vancouver !
http://www.leaderpost.com/touch/story.html?id=11351535
SpartanAir
09-09-2015, 06:30 PM
That article just talks about lawn watering. Does this apply to us who want to wash our cars?
ilovebacon
09-09-2015, 06:38 PM
i want to know about that too. but who wants to wash their cars now..
meme405
09-09-2015, 06:48 PM
^ you can wash your car. Check the chart.
http://d2x3wmakafwqf5.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/112/files/2015/07/Metro-Water-Capture1.png
RevYouUp
09-09-2015, 06:53 PM
OMFG YES!
Autorice
09-09-2015, 07:07 PM
what the. I called 311 at around 4pm and they told me stage 3.
fliptuner
09-09-2015, 07:45 PM
As much as I like keeping my cars clean, I can't help but to think this was a good opportunity to reflect on how much water we do waste. Hopefully, people stay conscious that there's not an endless supply of clean water.
I wonder what the reservoir levels will drop to, this time tomorrow, since the forecast is for sun through the weekend.
Great68
09-09-2015, 07:55 PM
Hopefully GVRD will take a lesson from this and start planning to increase storage capacity. They're going to have to rely on snow-pacs less and less.
Victoria had the foresight a few years ago when they raised our dam, we didn't even break into Stage 2 this year.
Fcukedd
09-09-2015, 07:58 PM
Ran outside to wash the car right when I heard stage 2 was now in effect.
All that dirt :sweetjesus:
trd2343
09-09-2015, 08:17 PM
Weird, news outlet says stage 2, but city's website still says stage 3, maybe it hasn't it been updated yet?
About the watering restrictions | City of Vancouver (http://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/about-the-watering-restrictions.aspx)
edit: City of Vancouver have updated their website.
hotjoint
09-09-2015, 08:22 PM
Gonna wash my car this weekend!
entrax
09-09-2015, 09:23 PM
Ran outside to wash the car right when I heard stage 2 was now in effect.
All that dirt :sweetjesus:
just did the same thing lol
Mining
09-09-2015, 10:19 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS S
SpartanAir
09-09-2015, 10:59 PM
There's the chart! Woooo...I need to wash it badly! :fuckyea:
i-vtecyo
09-10-2015, 12:07 AM
Yes! I can finally flush my coolant system to prepare for winter! :toot:
just did the same thing lol
at 10:30pm? wow
AzNightmare
09-10-2015, 02:31 AM
lol... the whole city starts watering their lawn and washing their cars tomorrow and we'll be back to stage 3 again
:lawl:
meme405
09-10-2015, 08:25 AM
lol... the whole city starts watering their lawn and washing their cars tomorrow and we'll be back to stage 3 again
:lawl:
The day after stage 2 returns our usage probable peaks, as everyone waters their lawns and washes their cars.
I'd like to see the chart on water usage for this 24-48 hour period.
We must have shot from like 1.2 bil to atleast 3 or 4 bil litres.
winson604
09-10-2015, 08:34 AM
what the. I called 311 at around 4pm and they told me stage 3.
We didn't get notification until later in the evening.
6o4__boi
09-10-2015, 08:54 AM
:sweetjesus:
it'll be like showering after camping in the boonies for weeks
Acura604
09-10-2015, 01:21 PM
Stock up !
Simoniz 25pk microfibre towels. $11.99. Cdn tire
Peturbo
09-10-2015, 03:30 PM
The day after stage 2 returns our usage probable peaks, as everyone waters their lawns and washes their cars.
I'd like to see the chart on water usage for this 24-48 hour period.
We must have shot from like 1.2 bil to atleast 3 or 4 bil litres.
Reservoir Levels and Daily Consumption (http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/water/conservation-reservoir-levels/reservoir-levels/Pages/default.aspx)
Stock up !
Simoniz 25pk microfibre towels. $11.99. Cdn tire
Had a look at these earlier in person. I personally wouldn't use these on any body panels given how rough they felt but for interior cleaning they'd be fine.
Gh0stRider
09-10-2015, 06:49 PM
media say it may go down to stage 1 next week.
Urrtoast
09-11-2015, 06:48 AM
Those are only good for interior, rims and engine compartment. and they are so cheap there disposable.
Quaitly Microfibers are $2.50-$8 dollars each.
Stock up !
Simoniz 25pk microfibre towels. $11.99. Cdn tire
meme405
09-11-2015, 08:06 AM
Those are only good for interior, rims and engine compartment. and they are so cheap there disposable.
Quaitly Microfibers are $2.50-$8 dollars each.
I use those for my windows as well, and since my car is wrapped I can use them to wipe that down as well with very little worry.
I agree though, I wouldn't use them on paint, way too rough.
AzNightmare
09-11-2015, 07:52 PM
I use those for my windows as well, and since my car is wrapped I can use them to wipe that down as well with very little worry.
I agree though, I wouldn't use them on paint, way too rough.
Lol, since my car is old and silver...
I use dollar store microfiber towels
:lawl:
Anyone have a self righteous phaggot come up to you and chastise you?
I did, a little butt picking kid and his Silent Bob of a dad.
I didn't bother saying anything though. I just hoped they looked it up when they went home and felt like retards afterward.
spoon.ek9
09-12-2015, 03:40 PM
I was a bit paranoid about washing the car but knowing it's no longer against the rules, meh.
thumper
09-12-2015, 05:04 PM
Anyone have a self righteous phaggot come up to you and chastise you?
I did, a little butt picking kid and his Silent Bob of a dad.
I didn't bother saying anything though. I just hoped they looked it up when they went home and felt like retards afterward.
i did. i got some housewife walking her dog lecturing me about water restrictions while yapping on her iphone. i told her to use her damn phone and look online to see that the restriction was lifted two days ago, and she just huffed and walked off. i should have offered to give her and her dog a free pressure wash whether she agreed to it or not.
a00755836
09-13-2015, 12:25 PM
I was a bit paranoid about washing the car but knowing it's no longer against the rules, meh.
i still felt a little bit guilty using water to wash my car yesterday. haha.
Damn it........ was gonna wash all the cars, but it has been so long I couldn't find the wash buckets and supplies. Oh well, it's gonna rain in a couple days anyway.
dragondragon99
09-13-2015, 01:34 PM
i have to buy water everyday
I have to smoke weed everyday................
Weed Jesus
hotjoint
09-13-2015, 04:48 PM
Washed my car today, she's all nice and shiny again :)
thumper
09-14-2015, 08:43 AM
Washed my car today, she's all nice and shiny again :)
not for long :(
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11209365_10153604879403134_6642246237810760196_n.j pg?oh=b5bedec35769858797a11ae198756bf4&oe=56693486
hotjoint
09-14-2015, 01:49 PM
not for long :(
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11209365_10153604879403134_6642246237810760196_n.j pg?oh=b5bedec35769858797a11ae198756bf4&oe=56693486
:smug:
Gh0stRider
09-21-2015, 10:31 PM
Metro Vancouver is looking at returning to stage one water restrictions tomorrow. Right now people can only water their lawns once a week in the morning, under stage two rules. The change is expected to be made official tomorrow morning.
SSM_DC5
09-22-2015, 01:50 PM
Metro Vancouver is looking at returning to stage one water restrictions tomorrow. Right now people can only water their lawns once a week in the morning, under stage two rules. The change is expected to be made official tomorrow morning.
It's stage 1 right now.
sauce: About the watering restrictions | City of Vancouver (http://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/about-the-watering-restrictions.aspx)
westopher
09-22-2015, 01:52 PM
Washed my car today. It felt so good.
spoon.ek9
09-22-2015, 01:56 PM
washed and waxed both of my cars by now lol. so good.
I don't give a rat's ass about water restrictions anymore - front lawn looks like Integra Girl after being dragged through the mud.
entrax
09-22-2015, 02:33 PM
I don't give a rat's ass about water restrictions anymore - front lawn looks like Integra Girl after being dragged through the mud.
what an unnecessary image. :ohgodwhy:
on another hand, it's so nice to use proper soap and wash the whole car. that touchless car wash stuff is too strong for my single stage 90's paint.
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