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Mining
08-12-2015, 05:19 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/asia/china-port-explosion/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeXBME2YVQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSjif0gcufM

Presto
08-12-2015, 05:27 PM
Dat shockwave

Gucci Mane
08-12-2015, 05:42 PM
holy fucking shit.


and wtf OP, linking vanshittybuzz? :rukidding:

ForbiddenX
08-12-2015, 06:11 PM
Here's the live reddit thread for those that want to follow: https://www.reddit.com/live/veh2e41lp0he

pastarocket
08-12-2015, 07:55 PM
This is awful news! :heckno:

-so much awful news to come out of Asia recently:

-the Malaysian plane crash.

-earthquake in Nepal.

-massive gas explosion in China.

danned
08-12-2015, 09:59 PM
china is dangerous place to live

westopher
08-12-2015, 11:18 PM
UPDATE: CNN has reported the Tianjin explosion has killed 13 people and injured 260 others, according to China state media.


Add a few fucking zeros to those numbers then.

Mining
08-12-2015, 11:22 PM
holy fucking shit.


and wtf OP, linking vanshittybuzz? :rukidding:

I knew I was going to get failed for some reason lol.

Apologies

Akinari
08-12-2015, 11:35 PM
And of course the media silence ordered by the Chinese government. Hilarious.

Razor Ramon HG
08-13-2015, 12:10 AM
With an explosion that size.. I wouldn't be surprised if the death total climbs to over one thousand.

nabs
08-13-2015, 12:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7FXeaahRsg

holy fuck.

m0shh-
08-13-2015, 01:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7FXeaahRsg

holy fuck.

Holy shit that is a scary video.

Qmx323
08-13-2015, 01:37 AM
Like a fucking war-zone man... RIP and condolences to those involved...

SkinnyPupp
08-13-2015, 01:47 AM
I could never live in a place where safety procedures are barely existent, and the ones that exist are ignored 100% of the time anyway. RIP to those unaware and those who don't have a choice.

mr_chin
08-13-2015, 07:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLfen9rjfvI

better view on the first shoot.

he lived.

BoostedBB6
08-13-2015, 07:43 AM
I saw this last night and the first thing I thought was a bomb went off. Its almost unbelievable how large that is for being a plant.

So sad. Thats a huge number of injured, but rather surprised there were not more killed from this. Looks like a war zone.

sonick
08-13-2015, 07:54 AM
Horry shit, this dashcam vid shows the shockwave pretty well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXmG3GdAig

cressydrift
08-13-2015, 08:06 AM
"This Chinese source claims the list of damaged vehicles includes:

1065 Touaregs
114 Golfs
391 Beetles
84 up!s
257 Tiguans
39 SportsVans
28 Magotans (locally built Passats) and 770 “Specials”, whatever those might be.
The exploding warehouse hit the port with energy equivalent of three tonnes of TNT, so no wonder why the site was still smoking this morning despite the firefighters best efforts, who lost twelve of their own in this horrific disaster."

thumper
08-13-2015, 01:02 PM
"This Chinese source claims the list of damaged vehicles includes:

1065 Touaregs
114 Golfs
391 Beetles
84 up!s
257 Tiguans
39 SportsVans
28 Magotans (locally built Passats) and 770 “Specials”, whatever those might be.
The exploding warehouse hit the port with energy equivalent of three tonnes of TNT, so no wonder why the site was still smoking this morning despite the firefighters best efforts, who lost twelve of their own in this horrific disaster."

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/G.ett1.gYSvwsU4PI_b47Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTYzOTtpbD1wbGFuZTtweW 9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/Part-HKG-Hkg10201952-1-1-0.jpg
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http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/0CC3/production/_84876230_20cbd360-4e4c-4690-901c-f37803f462e6.jpg

sonick
08-13-2015, 01:20 PM
^ Weird, I wonder why in the middle pic the dents/divots under the rear window are in the exact same position? Or maybe it's part of the body to begin with?

Culverin
08-13-2015, 01:32 PM
^ Weird, I wonder why in the last pic the dents/divots under the rear window are in the exact same position? Or maybe it's part of the body to begin with?

That middle photo, I think those cars were actually on fire.

So if I had to guess,
Those parts would be like an attachment point of a different material, like a plastic retention nut or something.

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-13-2015, 01:39 PM
someone gonna get executed.

fliptuner
08-13-2015, 03:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7FXeaahRsg

holy fuck.

Scary, scary shit, indeed.

That actually reminded me of this (@1:33)

https://youtu.be/pX9hL93HPMI?t=1m33s

matter
08-13-2015, 03:19 PM
This is probably the clearest video of both blasts right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhsOXdomPNU

EmperorIS
08-13-2015, 03:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nahdy9SjbGs

JDMEK9
08-13-2015, 04:32 PM
wonder whats the cause

Mr.HappySilp
08-13-2015, 05:19 PM
I could never live in a place where safety procedures are barely existent, and the ones that exist are ignored 100% of the time anyway. RIP to those unaware and those who don't have a choice.

How you you think all of the cheap crap from China are made?

Lomac
08-13-2015, 05:36 PM
This is probably the clearest video of both blasts right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhsOXdomPNU

That's just scary.

Phozy
08-13-2015, 05:55 PM
Just horrible and fucked up huh

Condolences to all those involved

Jmac
08-13-2015, 06:07 PM
wonder whats the cause
I'm sure we won't find out for sure for quite some time, but CNN seemed to suggest it could've been a mix of reactive chemicals.

"According to the Tianjin Tanggu Environmental Monitoring Station, hazardous chemicals stored by the company concerned include sodium cyanide (NaCN), toluene diisocyanate (TDI) and calcium carbide (CaC2), all of which pose direct threats to human health on contact. NaCN in particular is highly toxic. Ca(C2) and TDI react violently with water and reactive chemicals, with risk of explosion.

thumper
08-13-2015, 06:12 PM
I could never live in a place where safety procedures are barely existent, and the ones that exist are ignored 100% of the time anyway. RIP to those unaware and those who don't have a choice.

i think we've all forgotten that only a few months back this happened:

Chemical fire at Vancouver's port prompts evacuation, health warnings | CTV News (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/chemical-fire-at-vancouver-s-port-prompts-evacuation-health-warnings-1.2264349)

if there was anything worse around or inside that container, or if the emergency response was more lacking, this could have been us.

for those watching the newsfeeds, tianjin's main hospital (not including two other hospitals in the area) is larger than anything we have here, and they are at overflow capacity and treating patients outdoors... over here on a normal day our ERs in any of our hospitals has people stacked in the corridors and closets. i can't imagine what it would be like if we experienced a similar explosion or an earthquake :(

murd0c
08-13-2015, 09:39 PM
Everyone is so lucky this happened in the middle of the night, if this was in the day time my god the people that would of died

JoshuaWong
08-13-2015, 09:41 PM
It appears so far none of the first responders made it back alive, no trace of life within the 1km blast radius, air within 15km radius is hazardous, estimate to be deadly within 5 days of exposure, estimate around 3000+ dead. Corpses alone at TEDA are in the 1000~ mostly unidentifiable. Injuries reported up to a 30km radius.

bobbinka
08-13-2015, 09:45 PM
It appears so far none of the first responders made it back alive, no trace of life within the 1km blast radius, air within 15km radius is hazardous, estimate to be deadly within 5 days of exposure, estimate around 3000+ dead. Corpses alone at TEDA are in the 1000~ mostly unidentifiable. Injuries reported up to a 30km radius.

source please

flagella
08-14-2015, 05:05 AM
Initial estimate does look extremely low. Some of the buildings are completely gone and there must be been people living in there. I can't even imagine how difficult it would be to even find corpses given the scale of the blast. The body could be blown to pieces and who knows how they've flown. One day someone might find a limb on their roof.

meme405
08-14-2015, 05:46 AM
Wow I have been on a bit of a work bender this past week, so when I heard about this explosion and the 44 dead I didn't really pay much attention. I figured just some factory fire.

I finally watched the video's last night and all I can say is HOLY FUCK.

The 44 death count is a joke, there's entire buildings that are decimated. Chinese reporting at it's finest yet again. I guess they thought they could down play the incident until they realized how many videos were openly available of the explosion.

Either way what a tragedy.

SkinnyPupp
08-14-2015, 07:08 AM
source please
No source will be trustworthy, unfortunately. We'll probably never know if the death toll was 44 or 3000 or anything in between. 3000 is a made up number, but plausible.

white rocket
08-14-2015, 08:07 AM
Epicly horrific :(. It's like something out of a movie. Post apocalyptic even. You would think there would be thousands dead after something like that.

EmperorIS
08-14-2015, 08:17 AM
To put in perspective if we are assuming 3000 death is plausible, the overall 9/11 victim death toll was 2,977.

westopher
08-14-2015, 08:55 AM
i think we've all forgotten that only a few months back this happened:

Chemical fire at Vancouver's port prompts evacuation, health warnings | CTV News (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/chemical-fire-at-vancouver-s-port-prompts-evacuation-health-warnings-1.2264349)

if there was anything worse around or inside that container, or if the emergency response was more lacking, this could have been us.
(
Those are some VERY substantial ifs.

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-14-2015, 03:03 PM
i bet the statistics reported are true.

the only reason people would doubt it is because they're already anti china and biased against everything china reports

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/13/world/asia/tianjin-china-explosions-maps.html?_r=0

just look at that. its almost all industrial/commercial zone. the highways surrounding it are fine. and the apartments/residential area doesn't start till the border of the explosion and they only have "broken glass".

my first reaction is, most people that got injured probably were just standing there watching the explosion and the glass blew up in their faces.

the people that were within the radius of the kill zone of the blast were probably few. mostly rescue workers and the few unfortunate.

like i said, the rest just got glass in their faces.



orientated to the map in the link:
everything to the top and right of the explosion is just nothing...

only to the left and below are apartments.

the kill radius is the shipping containers to the railway... everything beyond that is just shock wave.

Traum
08-14-2015, 03:06 PM
^^ Ulic, I'm sorry to say -- when it comes to China, and especially when it comes to disasters (be it natural or human-induced), you really don't know shxt. :facepalm:

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-14-2015, 03:12 PM
the only reason people would doubt it is because they're already anti china and biased against everything china reports


^^ Ulic, I'm sorry to say -- when it comes to China, and especially when it comes to disasters (be it natural or human-induced), you really don't know shxt. :facepalm:

sorry dude.

u just have to look at the map and realise there's no way 3000 people were concentrated in an industrial zone in the middle of the night.

most people were at home in their apartments already and the apartments were all far away enough that they only suffered window breaking from shock wave blast.

it's just anti china sentiment. pretty obvious.

people in the hospitals that work there would be leaking info (if there are 3000 dead, that would mean there would be at least 3000-6000+ injured, the hospitals would be super overflowing).

all the ex pats that live there would be leaking info.

and guess what, no leaks. cuz guess what. it's true. and no, dont pull a CIC on me and say "china blocked everything thats why you didnt hear anything" lol. that's so BS. have any of u guys even been to china.

they have NO REASON to hide the number of deaths. this isn't some political bullshit they can leverage. jeezus christ.

people are so fucking paranoid schizoid, deep in their own weird fantasy.

i bet you anything, the reports are correct.

they would release correct statistics, and they're going to find out who's responsible and punish them with execution or if they're lucky, throw them in prison for the rest of their life for causing mass public disruption. that's exactly what is gonna happen.



to get anywhere even close to 1000 deaths, buildings have to be knocked over, and people crushed under them. like if the buildings were RIGHT BESIDE the explosion.

this isn't some earthquake where whole city is affected and thousands die (just think about it, an earth quake of massive scale, thousands die, hundreds of square km's are affected... this is like.. what.. this is just a few square miles. and the killzone is even smaller.)


to compare this is a similar explosion:
40,000 pounds (18 metric tons, they say the tianjin one was 21-22 metric tons).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rInxeNBXS3o

if u wanted to kill 3000 people, you'd have to drop that in the middle of a cluster of apartment buildings FULL of people, dude.

or the original explosion has to yield around the size of a small nuke. enough to kill the people in those apartment buildings by shock wave alone. that requires a HUGE explosion. a kiloton. 40-50x bigger explosion than what you see.

bcedhk
08-14-2015, 03:31 PM
But this is China, where workers are not all accounted for in a company and hundreds of people would probably be working at night shifts.

Is still too early to really figure out how many total deaths there are, even if this was to happen in the USA or in any other major 1st world country.

Traum
08-14-2015, 03:40 PM
Ulic, you don't see any leaks because you either haven't been look or don't know where to look. :facepalm:

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-14-2015, 03:45 PM
dude, hundreds of people wouldn't be working there at night. look at the area. i bet there are only a few hundred people there in the day at the PEAK of operation hours.

the death toll is at 50, and injured is 700, and 71 critically injured. something like that.

700 people injured. that's a lot.

it takes a lot to kill a human being.



it seems that most of you have your perspective skewed because of anti east sentiment. and your lack of knowledge when it comes to explosions and radius blasts.

don't be fooled by the huge fire ball. there have been nukes that have been detonated with smaller fireballs than that.

it's a very INEFFICIENT explosion, and it's at GROUND level. not like a bomb where they detonate above ground surface.

comparing it to 911 is ridiculous. u have TWO of the TALLEST buildings in the world, JAM PACKED FULL of workers at PEAK hours. and they COLLAPSE and CRUSH everyone inside.

this is totally different.


atomic bombings killed 45,000–73,000 people in Hiroshima and 19,500–40,000 in Nagasaki from the explosion alone (not radiation poisoning).
the bombs were 15,000 tons and 21,000 tons (compared to 22).

you're telling me this blast killed 3000?

the math doesn't even add up for your guys's argument...

but for argument sake lets say the concentration of people is similar... the nukes were 1000x as powerful (and more effective cuz detonated 1km above surface)... so 1000x as powerful. killing almost exactly 1000x as many people... so this explosion is 1000x less powerful and reportedly has killed exactly 1000x less people... now do you really think there were THAT many people concentrated in that small area? c'mon man...

you would need 3000 people all standing beside the bomb for that to happen.

ALL those apartment buildings on the map would have to be crushed. CRUSHED. for 3000 or even 1000 people to DIE on the spot.

Traum
08-14-2015, 04:00 PM
I am not going to argue with you on the casualty figures, but I will remind you that the official Chinese news channel has a long established history in faking the casualty numbers. You wouldn't be just naive -- you'd have to be down right stupid -- to believe the official numbers are anything close to the actual figures.

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-14-2015, 04:07 PM
you'd have to be stupid to believe 3000 people died in an area like that at night from a 22 metric ton explosion.

yeah maybe 100 people died instead of 70. even 200. sure. whatever.

but definitely not 1000, or 3000.

you guys are the ones that are naive, basing your conclusions on anti east sentiment and past propoganda.

you cannot hide the death of 3000 people in a city, when the whole world is watching.

3000 people vanishing means an exponential more amount of people being affected. they cannot silence that many. including expats and others with ability to communicate outside the great firewall.

give me a break.

how many dead bodies do u think they're hiding? tell me.

you all laugh at CIC when he's being nuts, but you guys can't tell when you're being exactly like him. lol.

even he makes more sense than you guys.

you guys are just pulling fake numbers outta your asses and your evidence is "china likes to lie, so they're lying, so there must be more dead bodies".

yeah ok. great logic there.

im saying even if they're lying (which i doubt), the body count matches the math. one doesnt have to be a rocket scientist to figure out 3000 deaths takes a lot more work than a 22 ton explosion in an industrial zone in the middle of the night.



tell me this, is there anything china can say where you'd believe them? the answer is no. so your logic and perception on the situation is already highly skewed and incorrect.

if china says 3000, you'll say 6000. if they say 6000, you'll say 12000.

you guys are being reverse CIC. no matter what the evidence is, you'll blame china for lying. no amount of evidence or logic will sway you from "china is lying".

instead of being paranoid schizoids toward lizardmen and illuminati... you guys are being even crazier by being paranoid schizoid to china. lol.

china likes to save face when it comes to political shit. but when it comes to accidents that are not their own fault, they wont care. there's no face to be lost, there's no reason to lie. the blame will be on someone else, and they're gonna make sure everyone sees who gets punished.

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-14-2015, 04:25 PM
you guys are all seeking "truth" but the truth can easily be deducted by looking at the pictures alone.

what you guys are seeking isnt truth, it's just to bash china.

if a nuke went off, and they said only 2000 people died. and the pictures and easy evidence doesn't match (you have pictures of whole city leveled)... there would be western news all over the world calling on china to tell the truth.

but there's none, you know why? cuz any idiot can see that it was just some big chemical blast caused by an accident, and the statistics match up. it's highly reasonable.

it's not like a chinese 9/11 where buildings collapse and chinese news just goes "nope, no one died, no pictures allowed... nope.. nope..."

there's a very obvious difference which you guys seem to ignore.

you only concentrate on the "china" part.

if this happened in the USA, would the statistics sound ok? so... why not china? cuz they have a history of lying? lol.

the story of the child crying wolf comes to mind. and you guys are the villagers. and the child is china. there's nothing the child can say to make the villagers believe anything. because the villagers are ignorant fools that only believe what they want to believe.

Mr.HappySilp
08-14-2015, 05:35 PM
I been to China and yes the death toll is most likely going to be less than 3k but no way less than 100. That number the media release is way out of wack. There are a few reason I can see why China want to downplay this.
1. China is celebrating the end of WW2 and they have chosen to display their strenght of military in Sept in Beijing. Tianjin is very close to Beijing so China want to downplay this as much as they can not to show any sign of weakness. Also in Oct is also their nation day. It seems fitting to downplay this accident.

2. winter olympics 2022 was just announced and Beijing will be the host city. With a such big disaster happen right after the announcement it might make other countries/tourist feel China is really unsafe. So the Chinese gov have to downplay it.

3. Also it seems like all the fireman who arrive first on the scene can't be found anywhere/ No news. There are rumors they call die. Those fireman alone is more than 30people at least. So saying the death total is only 50 seems like a lie.

4. It is still burning and there are dangerous chemical burning in the air. I doubt with such a big explosion and all the wreckage the Chinese gov actually swap the whole area for any death/bodies/injury.

5. There always have been corruption between China gov officials and business people. The way how these chemicals are store is 100% illegal and we aren't talking about a tiny place here, we are talking about tones and tones of dangerous chemical maybe several warehouse. How did this happen. Most likely the officials took brides and turn a blind eye. Or better yet the people who these chemicals have connections to the Chinese gov so no one dares to do anything.

In my personal experience when I go back to China, they tend to talk big or their good and outright downplay their bads. Just recently went on a trip with my gf to Yunnan and various part of China. All the media/pictures/talks was these places are really pretty/food was good/no pollution. Well turns out not really. Also from my experience with dealing with them daily they have also give me the same impression that they will never ever tell you the truth even if it is just something very simple.

Just like how my aunt does business in China. She got into a lawsuit with her partner. Thinking she knows one of the Higher rank China gov she will have the case win, not so much her partner knows someone who is more powerful in the gov. There wasn't even a trial. Basically she had the pay or she lost her business.

So Ulic I do not believe the numbers release by the Chinese media are true at all but I also don't think the death toll will be more than 300. I say around 150 to 180 seems more reasonable.

Jmac
08-14-2015, 05:44 PM
you guys are all seeking "truth" but the truth can easily be deducted by looking at the pictures alone.

what you guys are seeking isnt truth, it's just to bash china.

if a nuke went off, and they said only 2000 people died. and the pictures and easy evidence doesn't match (you have pictures of whole city leveled)... there would be western news all over the world calling on china to tell the truth.

but there's none, you know why? cuz any idiot can see that it was just some big chemical blast caused by an accident, and the statistics match up. it's highly reasonable.

it's not like a chinese 9/11 where buildings collapse and chinese news just goes "nope, no one died, no pictures allowed... nope.. nope..."

there's a very obvious difference which you guys seem to ignore.

you only concentrate on the "china" part.

if this happened in the USA, would the statistics sound ok? so... why not china? cuz they have a history of lying? lol.

the story of the child crying wolf comes to mind. and you guys are the villagers. and the child is china. there's nothing the child can say to make the villagers believe anything. because the villagers are ignorant fools that only believe what they want to believe.
How do you manage to completely miss the underlying lesson of the boy who cried wolf?

SkinnyPupp
08-14-2015, 07:23 PM
I agree that 3000 seems very unlikely.

However trying to say it has anything to do with "because you hate China" is the fucking stupidest shit to say, even for Ulic. :seriously:

The reason people say it must be higher is 1) Because official casualty numbers coming out of disasters in China have been unreliable and 2) People look at an explosion in the most populated country in the world, see how big it is, and think it must be higher. 3) China has a poor safety record generally. They are still modernizing and going through 'growing pains' when it comes to things like safety procedures with everything from construction to storage of dangerous goods.

There is some anti-China sentiment when people discuss things like annoying shoppers and tourists, and driving up real estate prices around the world. But to attribute this sentiment to people coming to grips with a horrible disaster is just.... Come on man. :rukidding:

JoshuaWong
08-14-2015, 08:11 PM
Your right, news out of official channels in China is scarce and tightly controlled. Locals says there's been a quarantine zone established to keep out media which I don't doubt at all, look at the CNN guy. I just posted what I've gather from their social media (weixin, weibo, some personal friends from China, most of which have been deleted but there are still many supposed leak from people at the hospital and friends/relative of the "wujing" fire brigade. I can't confirm how accurate it is, but it sounds really bad and I wouldn't be surprised if half of it is at least true hence the frustration and online venting since there is no other outlet.

With that said, I really hope ur optimism proves to be true. It would be the best case scenario.


sorry dude.

u just have to look at the map and realise there's no way 3000 people were concentrated in an industrial zone in the middle of the night.

most people were at home in their apartments already and the apartments were all far away enough that they only suffered window breaking from shock wave blast.

it's just anti china sentiment. pretty obvious.

people in the hospitals that work there would be leaking info (if there are 3000 dead, that would mean there would be at least 3000-6000+ injured, the hospitals would be super overflowing).

all the ex pats that live there would be leaking info.

and guess what, no leaks. cuz guess what. it's true. and no, dont pull a CIC on me and say "china blocked everything thats why you didnt hear anything" lol. that's so BS. have any of u guys even been to china.

they have NO REASON to hide the number of deaths. this isn't some political bullshit they can leverage. jeezus christ.

people are so fucking paranoid schizoid, deep in their own weird fantasy.

i bet you anything, the reports are correct.

they would release correct statistics, and they're going to find out who's responsible and punish them with execution or if they're lucky, throw them in prison for the rest of their life for causing mass public disruption. that's exactly what is gonna happen.



to get anywhere even close to 1000 deaths, buildings have to be knocked over, and people crushed under them. like if the buildings were RIGHT BESIDE the explosion.

this isn't some earthquake where whole city is affected and thousands die (just think about it, an earth quake of massive scale, thousands die, hundreds of square km's are affected... this is like.. what.. this is just a few square miles. and the killzone is even smaller.)


to compare this is a similar explosion:
40,000 pounds (18 metric tons, they say the tianjin one was 21-22 metric tons).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rInxeNBXS3o

if u wanted to kill 3000 people, you'd have to drop that in the middle of a cluster of apartment buildings FULL of people, dude.

or the original explosion has to yield around the size of a small nuke. enough to kill the people in those apartment buildings by shock wave alone. that requires a HUGE explosion. a kiloton. 40-50x bigger explosion than what you see.

EmperorIS
08-14-2015, 09:06 PM
CNN notification says another explosion heard in Tian Jin

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/15/asia/china-tianjin-explosions/index.html

Lomac
08-14-2015, 09:17 PM
I do have to echo Ulic here. The estimates of up to 3000 people dead are inane, but the 84 confirmed now still seem a little low. Yes, it was night time but ports tend to run 24/7 and chances are there were more than a few people working that night even if it was just janitors and security personnel. The destroyed buildings shown in most pictures were offices, not residential... though there were dorms nearby for a construction project that were knocked down in the explosion.

thumper
08-15-2015, 02:53 PM
CNN notification says another explosion heard in Tian Jin

Death toll from Tianjin, China, explosions over 100 - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/15/asia/china-tianjin-explosions/index.html)

what i'm seeing on tv is kinda weird. it appears like one of the remaining surviving vw beetles that did not burn in the initial explosion caught fire on it's own and the fire is spreading to the rest of the remaining surviving inventory parked next to it :confused:

Mr.Money
08-15-2015, 06:12 PM
well now that we hear china's safety standards are bullshit....i've heard when the firefighters were trying to put it out with the water it caused a chemical reaction that happens when you mix the two....No warnings about before they showed :heckno: honestly wouldn't be surprised if a War broke out because of this.

asian_XL
08-15-2015, 06:32 PM
The aftermath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwDyJhydrFc

Appledaily news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e7QwEkEHgA

SkinnyPupp
08-15-2015, 11:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/gYCmfAd.jpg

StylinRed
08-16-2015, 12:58 AM
Official death toll is up to 112 now, but there are still hundreds missing apparently

I also heard someone just 55m from the blast, when it happened had survived, and also not all the bodies have been cleared due to concerns of the area still being dangerous to enter

so maybe the conspiracies should be toned down for now, no?




edit: also the amount of Sodium Cyanide that is/was on site is supposedly 70 times over the allowed amount

SkinnyPupp
08-16-2015, 03:31 AM
Now consider that the bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki was 1000 times bigger than this one :ahwow: (20 kilotons vs 21 tons of TNT equivalent)

Hot Karl
08-16-2015, 10:23 AM
it often takes incidents like this for a country to step up safety regulations.

people need to die to get laws changed.

Verdasco
08-16-2015, 10:35 AM
no way 3000 people from that, few hundred sounds plausible...

murd0c
08-16-2015, 11:23 AM
it often takes incidents like this for a country to step up safety regulations.

people need to die to get laws changed.

In North America no questions asked but in China I doubt it

StylinRed
08-16-2015, 02:44 PM
In North America no questions asked but in China I doubt it

Weeeeeeellllllllllll, not exactly, but okay...numerous plant explosions causing deaths have occurred in NA especially in recent years, you would think that if laws/safety was constantly being improved that these things wouldn't happen as often as they do

Mr.Money
08-16-2015, 03:18 PM
so you guys think the families involved will get a pay out...or will someone get executed for not following the law?.

threezero
08-16-2015, 03:21 PM
so you guys think the families involved will get a pay out...or will someone get executed for not following the law?.

Reading local Chinese blogs. It seems like there will be compensation. But knowing China it's life is cheap and thus payout is cheap.

Matsuda
08-16-2015, 09:34 PM
more photos

http://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1200w/Boston/2011-2020/2015/08/14/BostonGlobe.com/BigPicture/Images/2015-08-14T032634Z_690078113_SR1EB8E09JJ9I_RTRMADP_3_CHINA-BLAST.jpg

Explosions shock China?s Tianjin port - The Boston Globe (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/bigpicture/2015/08/14/explosions-shock-china-tianjin-port/3ImlYa7JQSj71drQ8kGUkI/story.html?p1=BP_Headline)

Jmac
08-16-2015, 09:49 PM
Weeeeeeellllllllllll, not exactly, but okay...numerous plant explosions causing deaths have occurred in NA especially in recent years, you would think that if laws/safety was constantly being improved that these things wouldn't happen as often as they do
Like the sawdust explosions we've had in northern BC the past decade.

thumper
08-17-2015, 08:16 AM
this was from facebook. may not be work safe :(

this was from a similar incident at a metal products factory in the Kunshan city explosion almost exactly one year ago... :(

https://youtu.be/RfWjSB0x-L8

604Sparda
08-17-2015, 08:50 AM
^ I think this video clip is from Aug 2014. Not from Tianjin.

thumper
08-17-2015, 08:53 AM
^ I think this video clip is from Aug 2014. Not from Tianjin.

you are correct... my edit did not post (see correction above)

Mr.HappySilp
08-17-2015, 09:26 AM
so you guys think the families involved will get a pay out...or will someone get executed for not following the law?.

Maybe there will be payout for the fire fighters. But for the average joes there will be next to nothing. The main reasons are life in China are cheap and if your family try to speak up they will be beaten, the news won't cover it (All news channel are state own) and very very few lawyer will even take your case (all lawyers Liscense are given or govern by the Gov.). So the Gov can easily ban or take your liscense away.

thumper
08-17-2015, 09:36 AM
Maybe there will be payout for the fire fighters. But for the average joes there will be next to nothing. The main reasons are lift in China are cheap and if your family try to speak up they will be beaten, the news won't cover it (All news channel are state own) and very very few lawyer will even take your case (all lawyers Liscense are given or govern by the Gov.). So the Gov can easily ban or take your liscense away.

i only caught half the news report on tv yesterday, but it was saying not all the firefighters were permanent full time employed, so not all of them would have full benefits, if any. i am not sure if their families will get anything in compensation as a result.

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-18-2015, 01:42 AM
Now consider that the bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki was 1000 times bigger than this one :ahwow: (20 kilotons vs 21 tons of TNT equivalent)

i posted that fact in my ramble.

the scary thing is fatman and littleboy are considered pathetic today.

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4fe0859e69bedd0876000002-642-6924/1-nuclear-bomb-power.jpg

and these aren't even the biggest bombs. lol.

EndLeSS8
08-18-2015, 10:26 AM
^that bomb stuff is freaking crazy...

white rocket
08-18-2015, 10:42 AM
and these aren't even the biggest bombs. lol.

Such an eerie thought. I'm curious about the "Bomb Detonated by the USA" statement in the pic. Does that mean that the US has/had tested each bomb by detonating it somewhere?

Lomac
08-18-2015, 11:01 AM
Speaking of freaky scary bombs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlVPYsix9Z4

World's largest nuclear explosion, the Tsar.

SkinnyPupp
08-18-2015, 11:03 AM
Yup, all tested in the 50's

The biggest one ever was by Russia... Someone made a similar image for it, so I'll put it beside the original:

http://i.imgur.com/lmJ6aUB.jpg http://b.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/codesign/imagecache/inline-large/post-inline/2-nuclear-bomb-power.jpg

That would literally wipe a city off the face of the earth.

From wikipedia

All buildings in the village of Severny (both wooden and brick), located 55 kilometres from ground zero within the Sukhoy Nos test range, were destroyed. In districts hundreds of kilometers from ground zero wooden houses were destroyed, stone ones lost their roofs, windows and doors; and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour. One participant in the test saw a bright flash through dark goggles and felt the effects of a thermal pulse even at a distance of 270 kilometres. The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km away from ground zero. A shock wave was observed in the air at Dikson settlement 700 kilometres away; windowpanes were partially broken to distances of 900 kilometres. Atmospheric focusing caused blast damage at even greater distances, breaking windows in Norway and Finland.

Hondaracer
08-18-2015, 11:08 AM
Well watch "mega ships" on discovery etc.

The USS Kentucky, a "destroyer class" nuclear submarine is 1 of 18 in the navy fleet, each equipped with 20 triton missles. They tout it as the worlds deadliest war
Machine with enough fire power to "wipe out a continent" and that's only a single sub

Ulic Qel-Droma
08-18-2015, 12:10 PM
Such an eerie thought. I'm curious about the "Bomb Detonated by the USA" statement in the pic. Does that mean that the US has/had tested each bomb by detonating it somewhere?

yeah most of em were blown up in bikini atoll. a buncha little islands in the middle of no where. i dont think there are anymore islands left LOL. the nukes ate them.

for point of reference, sponge bob comes from bikini bottom. maybe they can all talk cuz they're all mutated LOL.

white rocket
08-18-2015, 02:23 PM
Did a quick Google search for bikini atoll. Yup, that's the middle of nowhere alright. haha!

thumper
08-26-2015, 10:17 AM
nooo....

Valuable Brabus S-Classes Destroyed in Tianjin Explosion - GTspirit (http://gtspirit.com/2015/08/26/valuable-brabus-s-classes-destroyed-in-tianjin-explosion/)

before:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGM1a9hq-MZnxmC2Yyl29JZHbZIvZkdYUwuIE8M1Yy-ZtmqryYCQ

after :( :

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/gallery/gallery-brabus-s-class-tianjin_1/brabus-mercedes-benz-s-class-tianjin.jpg
http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/gallery/gallery-brabus-s-class-tianjin_1/brabus-mercedes-benz-s-class-tianjin1.jpg
http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/gallery/gallery-brabus-s-class-tianjin_1/brabus-mercedes-benz-s-class-tianjin2.jpg

AzNightmare
08-26-2015, 09:00 PM
Disc and Caliper looks good to be parted out!

:thumbsup: