[westopher]

Wait, so there is a new owner now? Did Talah just say fuck it after all this?

[xXSupa]

The fact that this thread was created, you chimed in multiple times admitting your poor decision making skills and yet you are STILL pulling this BS is just crazy to me. It's a damn shame is what it is. :confused:

To be fair, cman's problems started BEFORE the thread was created, and was just not addressed properly. It sounds as if you are saying that TALHA is STILL driving customers' cars and stuff, which I'm pretty sure he's not anymore.

Talah? No idea where the hell you guys pulled that name out of.

[hotong]

So who should we bring our car too? My car got keyed and still needs to be fixed.

[westopher]

Talah? No idea where the hell you guys pulled that name out of.
It's 2 reversed letters that are a mistake. It's not that fucking hard to see where it came from.

[Limitless]

His name's Talha I think..
I'm also not sure of Fasttrack. I know they have good revscene reviews (so did VIP in the beginning I'm assuming?), and I've heard mixed reviews. I've had friends have an awesome outcome from Fasttrack, I also have a few friends who has had shit outcomes and swear they would never go back. Seeing a few things myself, it seems like they are very hit or miss. But then again, you're most likely going to hear mixed reviews from most of the bodyshops around here.

[westopher]

His name's Talha I think.
Yeah I know now. I'm just making a point that it's not that rediculous that I misspelled his name like xxsupa seems to think.
He could say how his name was being spelled wrong like a normal person instead of implying we were calling him some random left field name like fucking Matt or something.

[Limitless]

Aha I was just commenting on xxsupa's post not yours, we posted the same time but I forgot to press reply for a while

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He's in here, probably writing up a reply.

[Harvey Specter]

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[SkunkWorks]

dude cut the middle man and just go str8 to Fastrack Autobody if you want it done right the first time seriously.

My car has been in and out of Fastrack 5 times now... I don't agree with your statement at all. Certainly wouldn't be my first choice of shop - but clearly I've shit luck with anything bodyshop related.

[VR6GTI]

My car has been in and out of Fastrack 5 times now... I don't agree with your statement at all. Certainly wouldn't be my first choice of shop - but clearly I've shit luck with anything bodyshop related.
Whats wrong with your car?

[SkunkWorks]

They currently have my car and are so far doing their best to rectify the outstanding items, so we'll see once I've the car back.

[white rocket]

To be fair, cman's problems started BEFORE the thread was created, and was just not addressed properly. It sounds as if you are saying that TALHA is STILL driving customers' cars and stuff, which I'm pretty sure he's not anymore.

Talah? No idea where the hell you guys pulled that name out of.

STILL pulling this BS means that he is not being up front with everything that he's doing. Transparency is key here and he is doing the opposite of that. You'd think that he would have done a 180 after being called out hard in here but that doesn't seem to be the case. Weeks of excuses with the part but Cman gets one within 24hours right from the dealer? How is that transparent?

After hearing about all the driving he's done with customers cars I'm now looking back on the fact that my Evo was "stored" at his "lot" in Richmond and him texting me saying how much "grip" the car had. At first I brushed it off but now I'm thinking that my car was bagged on a bit. The workmanship was on point hence my referral to Cman, and now all this? Fuck me. I'm just extremely disappointted.

Talah. Talha. what the fuck ever. It's not like I'm calling him Bill or Frank.

[hotong]

To be fair, cman's problems started BEFORE the thread was created, and was just not addressed properly. It sounds as if you are saying that TALHA is STILL driving customers' cars and stuff, which I'm pretty sure he's not anymore.

Talah? No idea where the hell you guys pulled that name out of.


why are you trying to defend him? if this happened to your beloved e92 would you still be defending him?

[trollguy]

maybe xxSUpa is Talha.. and posts as ts14 as well!

[knight604]

why are you trying to defend him? if this happened to your beloved e92 would you still be defending him?

Hes defending him cause ts14 did work on his car

[Limitless]

I'm assuming it turned out well, no driving the car around or anything either?

[E-SPEC]

How do they call the shop VIP? Its not the customers that are "Very Important". That seems to be sure as fuck.

[68style]

Sure they are! Customers are very important people who supply vehicles for him to do all his commuting and errands with! :troll:

[twitchyzero]

very incompetent persons

[adambomb]

Great thread! An informed community is how you gain business and how you lose business. :nicethread:


RIP Autobody. :fullofwin:

[gretzky]

What about Open Road Auto Body in Richmond?? Are they any good? or do they charge too much?? I need a fist sized dent fixed

[jasonturbo]

I feel like chiming in to share some advice with everyone about getting body work done.

They key to improving your odds of being a satisfied customer of a body shop is to CLEARLY EXPLAIN YOUR EXPECTATIONS IN ADVANCE!!!!! Let them know you will pick the car apart for panel gaps, alignment, paint texture, color match (bit tricky sometimes), overspray, you want all mouldings removed, bumper sprayed off the car, etc!

Immediately after be sure to tell them you are comfortable paying more to make sure it is done to your expectations.

The reality of body shop work is pretty simply, they don't treat a Cobalt like a Carrera. If you want carrera quality body work on your 350Z etc be sure to explain it to them.

If every piece of work coming in and out of the body shop had to meet OEM standards it would cost a lot more money to get body work done. Virtually all shops can produce some great work, as a consumer what you need to realize is that you get what you pay for (most of the time anyway, some shops just suck).

I'm super picky but have had many good experiences with body work and full re-sprays, if they know you won't be happy with less than perfect they will charge you more but give you what you want.

[westopher]

Expectation #1
My car does not become your car when I drop it off for bodywork.

I see what your saying, but these aren't examples of things you should lay on the table in this thread.

[VR6GTI]

I feel like chiming in to share some advice with everyone about getting body work done.

They key to improving your odds of being a satisfied customer of a body shop is to CLEARLY EXPLAIN YOUR EXPECTATIONS IN ADVANCE!!!!! Let them know you will pick the car apart for panel gaps, alignment, paint texture, color match (bit tricky sometimes), overspray, you want all mouldings removed, bumper sprayed off the car, etc!

Immediately after be sure to tell them you are comfortable paying more to make sure it is done to your expectations.

The reality of body shop work is pretty simply, they don't treat a Cobalt like a Carrera. If you want carrera quality body work on your 350Z etc be sure to explain it to them.

If every piece of work coming in and out of the body shop had to meet OEM standards it would cost a lot more money to get body work done. Virtually all shops can produce some great work, as a consumer what you need to realize is that you get what you pay for (most of the time anyway, some shops just suck).

I'm super picky but have had many good experiences with body work and full re-sprays, if they know you won't be happy with less than perfect they will charge you more but give you what you want.
unfortunately for cman it sounds like he paid VIP more money to get a proper job done(or so he thought). So paying more doesn't mean your always getting a product. Communicating with the shop of what your expectations are is a must.

[Navtakar]

What the hell! I thought I was the only one.

I had a bumper replaced on my Jaguar XJ at VIP two weeks ago. When I got it back there was 250 more KMs on it! I could not prove anything though because I am absolutely positive he forged the paper work. I remember it was at around 77,890 when I brought it in. When I got it back it was just over 78,100 km.

I feel so angry and helpless. If you have a nice car take my advice and don't go to VIP. Only an idiot would go back to VIP after reading all these horror stories.

[E-SPEC]

Wow what a scumbag. i believe it.

[AstulzerRZD]

What about Open Road Auto Body in Richmond?? Are they any good? or do they charge too much?? I need a fist sized dent fixed

They detail your car and have a lifetime guarantee on their work.
They're also Audi certified to work on aluminum, which must mean that their shop is pretty clean.

Sometimes a little sloppy with their work - had a bumper that their tried to bondo when they told me they were gonna replace it

[Klondike]

They detail your car and have a lifetime guarantee on their work.
They're also Audi certified to work on aluminum, which must mean that their shop is pretty clean.

Sometimes a little sloppy with their work - had a bumper that their tried to bondo when they told me they were gonna replace it

I've been inside Open Road Auto Body before. It's always clean, regardless if they're working on aluminium or not. Someone's always sweeping their area.

There's one separate area/booth that is strictly used for aluminium only, separated by curtains. Nobody was using it when I was there though.

[IMASA]

I've used (Open Road) Richmond Auto Body 4 times cuz the wife's CRV keeps getting hit by idiots. It's bad when the guys work there recognize you and your car when you walk in.

Each time, the repair work and paint match was good. But there's always a bit of overspray or something over the car each time , have to hit it with the clay bar and polish to take it off.

They have a Hertz inside, so it makes dealing with the rental/courtesy car easier.

[tegra7]

I've used (Open Road) Richmond Auto Body 4 times cuz the wife's CRV keeps getting hit by idiots. It's bad when the guys work there recognize you and your car when you walk in.


Why is it bad when they recognize you?

[inv4zn]

^Because it means you're frequenting some place you don't really want to go to often.

[Gtrr33]

Anybody own a 2013+ benz ML? They took it on a lunch run to tims on Byrne rd

[E-SPEC]

Well they have had a new owner for the past 3 weeks haven't they? So i can't see the same thing keep on happening, that seems pretty ludicrous.

[Gtrr33]

Well they have had a new owner for the past 3 weeks haven't they? So i can't see the same thing keep on happening, that seems pretty ludicrous.

Look like the same dude and the passenger looks like the painter on the photo in the first few page on this thread.

[Stormspirit]

Read first page, what kind of car is it ? Fully modded i bet. But what kind of car can lure a shop owner to drive 400kms ??? lol

[320icar]

You must be new here....

[RicePanda]

They currently have my car and are so far doing their best to rectify the outstanding items, so we'll see once I've the car back.

I'm offended. You're at fasttrack like erry week yet you never come by to take me out to lunch :( or was it my turn to take you out for lunch?

P.S. You should see our 02s.

EDITED to be relatively on topic: There's like two really well received shops in my work area, Fast Track and Open Road Auto Body, but they're both always busy as hell. I called around and ended up taking my rear bumper to JL Brothers on Minoru after an independant fucked up the color matching on a pearl white - they spent the first day trying to figure out what the hell was up with factory spec because nothing they got from the manufacturers matched the original color of the bumper and body. One of the owners (brothers, as from the name of the company) ended up dropping me off at home that day because it was supposed to be done and I had no ride, but they didn't want to make guesswork out of it and have the damn thing repainted a third time, so they spent another day making sure they got it perfect and I was impressed with the final result.

Doesn't take a business guru to run a business properly and treat your customers with top notch service.

[Mr.Money]

That fucking douche owner...doesn't even admit he drove more cars around than one..
Anyone gonna teach'em a lesson yet or no?.....LMK :troll:

[Cman333]

I got my car back from Grand Performance. Vic and the guys did a great job. I told them about my previous mishap and pointed out the things that bugged me. I got my car back today (4 days), I got a PROPER loaner car that doesn't leak, I don't see cracks in the lip, no visible runs (it's raining today), all the trouble areas we're fixed, repaired the damage done by VIP, and my grill is painted and installed. They even cleaned my car and didn't charge me (VIP charged me to wash my car after they made it dirty).

Basically overall good experience, this is kind of how it's suppose to be. Simple and easy.

[E-SPEC]

(VIP charged me to wash my car after they made it dirty).



Huh?? You should have refused to pay.

[Cman333]

unfortunately for cman it sounds like he paid VIP more money to get a proper job done(or so he thought). So paying more doesn't mean your always getting a product. Communicating with the shop of what your expectations are is a must.


Yup.

I was VERY explicit about my expectations. If it comes back looking worse or not aligned properly I won't be happy. I mentioned I wanted it to look 100% like new, perfect paint match and everything. There's not a single accident on my vehicle and I was just repairing rock chips, and paint stress cracks. Zero actual damage to the vehicle.

I was told it would be complete in 3 days and would get a courtesy car. He rented a new Hyundai. I ended up keeping the rental for like 1.5 week. He tells me it's done, I asked if the cars clean because I saw pics he sent me and the car was dirty from all the work they did, he said he'll wash it for $20. Sure whatever. EVERY shop I know, washes it after their done free.

Then when I got the car back at night, I gave it a quick glance but couldn't see much because it was so dark. The next day, I inspected in the sun, and see tons of imperfections. Runs, Dust, paint flaking, paint cracks (the shit I wanted fixed), globs of paint build up in the corners, etc. So oddly enough a week after I get my car back my car is having issues, I bring it to my mechanic (which is 2 blocks away from VIP), then have him drop off my car to VIP after he's done. He then keeps it another 1+ week. Meanwhile my mechanic has been kind enough to loan me his loaner. I emphasize I do not want to bring the car back a 3rd time. Make sure it's perfect, keep it longer, but MAKE SURE IT'S MINT. VIP dude tells me he's going the extra mile, and he would normally charge extra, etc etc. Who charges extra to fix their own fuck ups. That's just stupid.

Anyways, I get my car back again, this time the runs are gone but now there's paint flaking in other areas, dust in the clear, and they burned through the paint while polishing. So I tell him, he now needs to repaint it again. I tell him, this is the LAST time. MAKE SURE IT'S 100%.

My car is now at VIP the 3rd time. Meme makes this thread, and I realize I'm not a singular case. It's happened to tons of people. But now he already has my car. Not much I can do but hope maybe he'll pull through. So I get a leaky POS car. Tells me the usual, It'll be done in a few days. 2+ weeks later after all the RS drama he finally finishes it and the job is like "okay". Still dust, and globs of paint in the corner. I figure fuckit, I'll live with it. Then I notice my grill and gas cap cord is fucked. UGH.

Either or, I'm sure I was VERY explicit with my expectations. By the 3rd time, I found myself just settling for sub par work just so I don't lose my car for 2 more weeks.

[Cman333]

Huh?? You should have refused to pay.

I didn't care at the time, I just was expecting a crazy good job. He made it sound like they did an amazing job. Kept saying he went the extra mile, he would normally charge extra. Even though I already paid extra. So for $20 I can deal with it. I ended up giving them extra money as a tip too.

From all the "positive" reviews, I felt confident the 1st time it would come out mint. Boy was I wrong. BibleThump

[Suprarz666]

Most, if not all bodyshops usually provide a courtesy car wash/clean up for the customers vehicle.
Charging seems ridiculous unless you requests some extra work(polishing etc)

[kkthind]

Pics or didn't happen :drunk:

[hotong]

I didn't care at the time, I just was expecting a crazy good job. He made it sound like they did an amazing job. Kept saying he went the extra mile, he would normally charge extra. Even though I already paid extra. So for $20 I can deal with it. I ended up giving them extra money as a tip too.

From all the "positive" reviews, I felt confident the 1st time it would come out mint. Boy was I wrong. BibleThump

So Cmann you recommend grand performance? I need to take my car to a bodyshop soon!

[XplicitLuder]

grand performance is a great place to deal with. Dont know in terms of product results but they get parts from us, and theyre a blast to deal with super friendly :)

[Limitless]

@xplicitluder where do you work at?

[XplicitLuder]

@xplicitluder where do you work at?

performance rad

[Cman333]

So Cmann you recommend grand performance? I need to take my car to a bodyshop soon!

I'd recommend them. They did a good job, my car was cleaned after they finished, provided me with a decent car, finished the job in a reasonable time line, no extra km's, NO RESIDUE ALL OVER FROM POLISHING, bumper was aligned properly.

All my black trims/mesh/grill were covered in white residue when VIP polished it, this time I don't see any. I don't feel embarrassed to drive it.

I nitpicked all the areas that VIP seemed to mess up, but no globs of paint in the corners, no cracks in the paint, and no runs. It was hard for me to see due to the rain, I'm gonna head home soon into my garage and comb it over and see if there's dust in the clear.

UPDATE: Checked over, two small areas need a light buff and we're set. I'll let the paint set a bit first. Otherwise the job met my standards. :)

[Stormspirit]

I got my car back from Grand Performance. Vic and the guys did a great job. I told them about my previous mishap and pointed out the things that bugged me. I got my car back today (4 days), I got a PROPER loaner car that doesn't leak, I don't see cracks in the lip, no visible runs (it's raining today), all the trouble areas we're fixed, repaired the damage done by VIP, and my grill is painted and installed. They even cleaned my car and didn't charge me (VIP charged me to wash my car after they made it dirty).

Basically overall good experience, this is kind of how it's suppose to be. Simple and easy.

+1 for grand performance, they have been working with my rental company for many years and they only do good job of things. Highly recommend anyone that has any "big" issues. Victor at Grand Performance can help u out big time ( lowest price around too, so you don't have to go around quoting )

[Cman333]

FML when I think it's over it's not over.

Turns out the car he rented for me while taking way too long to complete, HE DIDN'T PAY THE BILL so Enterprise has charged me for it. They couldn't get payment for over 90 days so they charged me instead.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME TALHA??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck you. You really are a work of art. This is now offensive. You're a piece of shit. Fucking me over constantly has now made this personal.

I talked to the new owner and say's he's gonna cover it and apologizes for the shit show Talha left behind. Fuck I'm pissed.

[westopher]

Holy shit.:rukidding:

[bossha]

talha u really deserve a backhand right across ur cheek

[E-SPEC]

Talla 2XLC would be offended hearing about this upset he shares the same name as him i'll bet.

[smoothie.]

This thread: the gift that keeps on giving

[jing]

Fingers crossed that the new owner will warranty ts14's shoddy work. It's been just under 9 months since my hard top was repainted there and it's already starting to chip, not to mention the paint runs and poor prep. Just noticed recently that the paint wasn't laid down thick enough right around where it chipped too. I can still see a light shade of red underneath the black paint it was covered with.

[Cman333]

Fingers crossed that the new owner will warranty ts14's shoddy work. It's been just under 9 months since my hard top was repainted there and it's already starting to chip, not to mention the paint runs and poor prep. Just noticed recently that the paint wasn't laid down thick enough right around where it chipped too. I can still see a light shade of red underneath the black paint it was covered with.

you should probably talk to Sam soon. He seems like he's willing to take responsibility for Talha's constant fuck ups.

[VR6GTI]

How did ownership change hands so quickly?

[BoostedBB6]

How did ownership change hands so quickly?

Probably because he didn't own it, was just managing it or something like that.

[Cman333]

How did ownership change hands so quickly?

I think it's still transitioning. I think after the whole ordeal he couldn't manage and found someone else to take over. I think he's still affiliated with the company maybe as an employee. So who know's how long he'll be there for.

[Xu.Vi]

Gee lol. i'm somewhat relieved I didn't go through VIP for my claim. Actually, i'm really relieved.

Hope you get your issues resolved, Cman.

[hotong]

Cmann I hope you get everything sorted man.

[Nabatron]

this taha guy seems like a real scammer...

[XplicitLuder]

Now that's fucked up

[Cman333]

I KNOW YOU SEE THIS TALHA. Seriously thought you could get away with all this BS? Lemme guess, you're sorry and you'll make sure it won't happen again? This will only be the 10th time you've said it. You said you would pay me back when the paperwork is cleared. I don't think you're a man of your word. I fell for your BS already, felt guilty about the ordeal, now you've gone WAY over board.

[Eff-1]

i am out of word.

[i-vtecyo]

Im just sitting here waiting for ts14 or even one of his friends to reply on behalf of ts14 with an explanation on his side of the story.

[you!]

just summon the rs beat down crew and be done with it

[JHatta]

:Popcorn

Waiting for ts14 to reply....

[kross9]

Worldstar?

[hi-revs]

Got my front bumper repainted from VIP over the summer. (You can read about my post somewhere around the first few pages)

Dealt with more or less the same BS as Cman.

I just hope the paint doesnt start flaking off or something like that.
Really wished i went to another bodyshop, but at the time there was so much good talk on VIP's work etc.

[jiggaz]

Got my front bumper repainted from VIP over the summer. (You can read about my post somewhere around the first few pages)

Dealt with more or less the same BS as Cman.

I just hope the paint doesnt start flaking off or something like that.
Really wished i went to another bodyshop, but at the time there was so much good talk on VIP's work etc.


same I hope I don't have to re paint it again this guy is an idiot.. wonder if his buddies at the back are still detailing cars..

[hotong]

I KNOW YOU SEE THIS TALHA. Seriously thought you could get away with all this BS? Lemme guess, you're sorry and you'll make sure it won't happen again? This will only be the 10th time you've said it. You said you would pay me back when the paperwork is cleared. I don't think you're a man of your word. I fell for your BS already, felt guilty about the ordeal, now you've gone WAY over board.

If Sam doesn't deal with this by Monday I'm coming over to your house for a chat with your family. I've wasted enough time, put it behind me to try and move on and yet you keep fucking me. Like you don't ever want this to end. I don't care if you don't have the money. Sell one of your cars, borrow it, I don't care.

I'll put you out on blast until this is settled.

Address hint to show you I'm not BS'ing you
1***0 S*****d Rd.


meet at ts14s house. I'd be down to come.

[Cman333]

TS14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seVdI6FGjk0

[spoon.ek9]

holy shit... just when you thought this thread couldn't give you anymore........

speechless.

[tegra7]

God Talha's fb is cringe worthy.

[cunninglinguist]

http://i.imgur.com/5seZDCX.png?1

TS14 - you are reading this. Man up and answer to the issues!

[Mr.C]

I hope my dad's bumper doesn't start flaking or chipping; I'm somewhat choked to see all of this happen. I could have taken his car anywhere in the city, but I figured I'd help a fellow RS'er out.

Geez, what a clusterfuck.

[Cman333]

Talha. Do you think ignoring the problem will make this go away? I know you see this. I know you changed your FB privacy. Acting shady only makes this worse.

I won't let this die until it's resolved. This thread will get bumped over and over. And more of your info will be made public. You costing me more money doesn't sit well with me. Ignoring me only causes me to think you're not wanting to deal with this and are content with ripping me off.

[bluejays]

If this guy doesn't want to comply, go straight to the media.

[RevYouUp]

He's young and just made some stupid mistakes , give him a chance

:troll:

[ime2006]

He's young and just made some stupid mistakes , give him a chance

:troll:
I hear ya...
But Have you heard of "No Pain No Gain" ?? :fuckthatshit:

[meme405]

I'm in Mexico drinking cervezas on the beach, and got a message from a friend about this thread.

Log on only to see the drama continues. Smh.

[jcmaz]

I'm pretty sure I'll get failed for this, but cman you need to calm down. I get that you're pissed off at VIP auto, but you are also a RS vendor and represent your company. It doesn't look professional of you to disclose private information as a representative EVEN THOUGH he ripped you off.

[swfk]

^ Put yourself in his shoes

[JHatta]

I'm pretty sure I'll get failed for this, but cman you need to calm down. I get that you're pissed off at VIP auto, but you are also a RS vendor and represent your company. It doesn't look professional of you to disclose private information as a representative EVEN THOUGH he ripped you off.

^ Put yourself in his shoes

no if ts14 wants to do lines and rip people off thinking he's superman we all want to see whats coming next.

I agree with jcmaz...what is witch hunting going to solve here?

You think someone on this online forum is going to go over to this kid's house and physically / verbally assault him and his family? Let's get real.

It's bullshit what happened and cman have every right to be as pissed off as he is. But historically, cases like this have happened in the past and they are typically solved legally rather than physically. I'm sure cman has/is already trying to get his money through other venues other than just threatening to post ts14's info on this website.

My 0.02.....:badpokerface:

[E-SPEC]

i heard TS14 is a crackhead and what money he has is going to blow......gg..try get money from a cracky.
or really find a way to get your payment :troll:
Blow and Crack are a bit different... lol

[Cman333]

I'm pretty sure I'll get failed for this, but cman you need to calm down. I get that you're pissed off at VIP auto, but you are also a RS vendor and represent your company. It doesn't look professional of you to disclose private information as a representative EVEN THOUGH he ripped you off.

So because of the business, I shouldn't be entitled to voice my anger about getting fucked over repeatedly? I delete my sig and it's okay? :/

I'm not mad at VIP, I'm mad at Talha personally. I didn't once say anything about anything physical, I just said if he doesn't want to own up to it, I'll come by and have a chat. I want his family to know he's scammed many people.

You put yourself in a similar situation where you entrusted someone to work on your car. 3 days MAX work needed. 3 days became 5 weeks of bullshit over 3 seperate times. Then you realize your vehicle was joy rided and he lied about it because you find receipts all over the inside of your car for body shop supplies. Also damages other areas of the car while in his care which would lead to a 4th time to go back and repair. As you've already dealt with 5 weeks of BS, then you wait another month for a part that was promised to be ordered and lied to again about it not being available. Then when you cut your loses and buy the part yourself because HE fucked up. You wait ANOTHER couple weeks to find out his "COURTESY CAR" he rented was never paid for and you're now paying $400 MORE because he didn't pay the rental company.

I sided with him during this whole bullshit started while he had my car. RS'ers were calling him out, and I stupidly wanted to believe his lies. While defending him I kept getting fucked over and lied to about everything. So, honestly this is now personal.

Here's a hypothetical situation:

If you came down to my store, gave me $1000 for a stereo and your car to work on, then I took your car drove it to a whore house, spent your deposit money on drugs and hoes. Then the next day you ask for your car back, I tell you no I need it longer. I'll rent you a car to use. Then 1.5 weeks later I'm done with putting your stereo but nothing works. It's basically as bad as when you brought it in if not worse. And the stuff I put in wasn't what you paid for. Then you come back again because I fucked up, I tell you "I should be charging you more to fix this, but I'm going the extra mile for you". Your moneys already spent, I can't afford to buy you what I sold you and I bring your car back for another week and give you a run around, drive your car again. Cause more damage. Then tell you "No man, I didn't touch that part". You believe me for now, but I'm retarded and fucked up again after promising I'll do the BEST job. So now You bring it back a 3rd time for ANOTHER 2 weeks. This time I fuck something else up and don't tell you until you notice again. You point it out and I say "I'll order the other part I screwed up". Then you wait another month, and you call. I tell you there's no part to fix your car available. You find out there's one in stock and you'll see it tomorrow. So after dragging this BS for 3.5 months, you're out all the money you gave me for product/job you didn't want. You cut your loses and call it a write off. Then 2-3 weeks later you check your bank statement and you get billed from the rental car company for the 1.5 weeks of insurance and rental fees for the car I was supposed to pay for.

Now at this point would you find what I've done personally offensive? Or just bad business? I took your car and money. Fucked it up. Lied repeatedly. Spent all the money and didn't pay the rental company to fuck you one last time. Tell me if I took your hard earned money and didn't give you want you paid for, would you just leave me be? If so, I have an amazing deal for you. ;)

I'll wait until Monday, If the new owner of VIP is true to his word, we'll see. If not, then I think Talha should be responsible. He told me once the paperwork is done, he'll pay me back. But given the track record I find it hard to believe him. I just want money back for the rental and the grill.

[twitchyzero]

All I can say is I'm sorry if this went down this way. I agree, This was a very immature and irresponsible decision on my part and I apologize for any bad feelings u have after coming to me. I take responsibility for everything. I didn't mean to drive ur car but it was foolish of me to do so.

I'm still very new to this business and I'm trying to improve from each mistake. I know my mistakes will cost me but all I can say is that I'm sorry

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[OGCStrike]

Saw a mazda 3 with a VIP autobody plate zipping around Lougheed Superstore parking lot. A tall male,with a huge beard, of maybe indian decent at least 6 foot stepped out of the vehicle.
not sure how the policy works at VIP autobody about changing a customer's license plate frame with theirs own "VIP autobody" frames like some people say about Fast track autobody.


Not sure if they are driving their customer's car around again or just a former customer who just had their plates changed into VIP autobody after getting their repairs finished.

source: I work there and was pushing carts back inside :QQ:

[jcmaz]

I would be mad too if I were scammed like that. Although the scale is completely different, I was too lied to by a bodyshop who said they would finish painting a piece in 2 weeks. I went there on the date when he promised it'd be done. 2 weeks turned to 5 weeks and 3 visits. On my last visit, I took my part and left for another bodyshop. No money involved, I know.

But that isn't the point that I'm trying to get across. My point is, you represent your company on this forum because you are officially listed as a vendor. It's like donning a uniform on the street cussing like mad or road raging in a company vehicle. What you do in your uniform publicly affects how other people perceive your company. It is like that road rage video of that plumbing van posted a couple months ago, would you use that company to fix your plumbing problems? Probably not since they lost their credibility by doing dangerous acts like road raging.

It's none of our concern if you speak of this matter with Talha and his family privately or if you gather enough evidence to present your case in court. It is also none of our concern if you posted your stuff using a private account unaffiliated with your company. But it is a concern to use a vendor account to publicly post bits of private personal information in a public forum due to the reasons stated above.

[bossha]

I would be mad too if I were scammed like that. Although the scale is completely different, I was too lied to by a bodyshop who said they would finish painting a piece in 2 weeks. I went there on the date when he promised it'd be done. 2 weeks turned to 5 weeks and 3 visits. On my last visit, I took my part and left for another bodyshop. No money involved, I know.

But that isn't the point that I'm trying to get across. My point is, you represent your company on this forum because you are officially listed as a vendor. It's like donning a uniform on the street cussing like mad or road raging in a company vehicle. What you do in your uniform publicly affects how other people perceive your company. It is like that road rage video of that plumbing van posted a couple months ago, would you use that company to fix your plumbing problems? Probably not since they lost their credibility by doing dangerous acts like road raging.

It's none of our concern if you speak of this matter with Talha and his family privately or if you gather enough evidence to present your case in court. It is also none of our concern if you posted your stuff using a private account unaffiliated with your company. But it is a concern to use a vendor account to publicly post bits of private personal information in a public forum due to the reasons stated above.

meh cman hasnt changed the way i think of bpg in a negative way at all. id do the same regardless of the circumstances if i got fucked the way he did

[bluejays]

Actually I'm more inclined to visit BPG after reading cman's responses. It's clear he doesn't stand for any bullshit business and shotty work. Leaves me to believe that, unlike Tahla, cman takes pride in the work and service he offers.

[Cman333]

It is like that road rage video of that plumbing van

I totally see where you are coming from, but I personally don't think I've acted way out of line in a way that would negatively impact the way people perceive me. I don't generally like to do things like this, but it has been such a horrendous experience that it's hard for me not to share and vent.

You can't compare the road rage to this, it's like if the other car was pegging rocks at the plumbing van, then jacked $1000+ from the plumber. Then the plumber is now acting in a rage. Then after the incident they take his credit card and buy a PS4.

So because he's wearing his work uniform and got jacked, he shouldn't defend himself and try to get his stuff back? Just rely on the "justice" system and go through months MORE of headaches?

There's a guy on RS named "MrMike" that got jacked 40+k for a car and is going about it the legal way. It's been who knows how many years and he's out his $40k still. Let alone all the anguish and hours he's poured into it. I don't wanna be a MrMike (Whatever his handle was).

[kkttsang]

Cman, don't listen to these guys, you have not put any negativity on your business, like someone said earlier you would probably give better service now anyways. Just because your a vendor doesn't mean u can get screw and be afraid to voice out your concerns.

[fliptuner]

When a vendor reacts this way to shitty service, chances are, he doesn't have shitty service.

[Lowered_Klass]

^ Exactly.

You beat me to it.

Now, I'm even MORE inclined to go to BPG. Knowing full well he doesn't tolerate this type of 'service', you know he isn't going to do the same type of thing to his customers.

I'll keep my fingers crossed you get this sorted soon Cman

[meme405]

I would be mad too if I were scammed like that. Although the scale is completely different, I was too lied to by a bodyshop who said they would finish painting a piece in 2 weeks. I went there on the date when he promised it'd be done. 2 weeks turned to 5 weeks and 3 visits. On my last visit, I took my part and left for another bodyshop. No money involved, I know.

But that isn't the point that I'm trying to get across. My point is, you represent your company on this forum because you are officially listed as a vendor. It's like donning a uniform on the street cussing like mad or road raging in a company vehicle. What you do in your uniform publicly affects how other people perceive your company. It is like that road rage video of that plumbing van posted a couple months ago, would you use that company to fix your plumbing problems? Probably not since they lost their credibility by doing dangerous acts like road raging.

It's none of our concern if you speak of this matter with Talha and his family privately or if you gather enough evidence to present your case in court. It is also none of our concern if you posted your stuff using a private account unaffiliated with your company. But it is a concern to use a vendor account to publicly post bits of private personal information in a public forum due to the reasons stated above.

Your entitled to your opinion, but I'm also entitled to mine, and my opinion is that your opinion is a piece of shit

I'm with the others cman you havnt tarnished your business whatsoever. I already stopped in once at bpg about getting the rest of the soundsystem for my car completed, I have no hesitation at all after this of coming back to bpg. As others have said this makes me even more inclined to visit you cause I know I won't need to deal with the bullshit.

[you!]

i bet u that jcmaz is talha's bff lol

[Cman333]

Update: Talked to the new owner. He just basically apologized profusely. I feel bad because he just walked into a shit storm of bills that he was left to clean up.

He agreed to pay me back the rental charge. I'll cut my loses on the grill/gas cap. He'll have something mailed out to me and I should see it sometime after xmas. Once I get the cheque I'll delete my reviews/posts.

By the sounds of it, he's making big changes, aside from having to keep the name (ICBC reasons), nothing else is the same. So I guess only time will tell. Hopefully we'll have actual positive reviews for VIP.

Thanks for everyone's help and input (regardless of whether I agree with the opinion, I appreciate it nonetheless). Happy Holidays. I guess we can put this one to rest for now unless Talha still some how manages to strike again. We may need to change the title to "my experience with TS14"

PS: Talha you fucked up big time. You seemed like a good kid, but don't ever open another business unless you know what's going on. You're lucky Sam bailed you out and you should thank him. Remember things will always catch up with you, you can only fake things for so long. You're still an asshole in my books though.

[68style]

That Sam guy sounds pretty stand up, I mean if it was me I'd be like fuck why do I have to pay for the previous owners mistakes... Sucks that he has all these extra fees just to keep his ICBC account intact, I bet nobody is more pissed at Talha than him he's got everyone's problems to deal with not just what each one of you are dealing with individually... Can't imagine the stories he is hearing

[Limitless]

I would be mad too if I were scammed like that. Although the scale is completely different, I was too lied to by a bodyshop who said they would finish painting a piece in 2 weeks. I went there on the date when he promised it'd be done. 2 weeks turned to 5 weeks and 3 visits. On my last visit, I took my part and left for another bodyshop. No money involved, I know.

But that isn't the point that I'm trying to get across. My point is, you represent your company on this forum because you are officially listed as a vendor. It's like donning a uniform on the street cussing like mad or road raging in a company vehicle. What you do in your uniform publicly affects how other people perceive your company. It is like that road rage video of that plumbing van posted a couple months ago, would you use that company to fix your plumbing problems? Probably not since they lost their credibility by doing dangerous acts like road raging.

It's none of our concern if you speak of this matter with Talha and his family privately or if you gather enough evidence to present your case in court. It is also none of our concern if you posted your stuff using a private account unaffiliated with your company. But it is a concern to use a vendor account to publicly post bits of private personal information in a public forum due to the reasons stated above.

Woo people are talking about the crazy plumbing van that cut me off. Anyways, I'm tired of this bs (not saying your post is bs, bare with me). The bs that just because you're a vendor or you work for a shop that you suddenly have to act professional everywhere with everyone.

Just going to go on bit of a rant here. I sold my Miata a while back, and the buyer came from Kerrisdale to the shop I work at over in Richmond for an inspection at my shop (at his expense). Everything looked good, so he bought the car, but since it's a Miata, I couldn't fit any of my spare parts and they were at home (wheels, bumpers, random shit). We agree that I can drop it off at his work place in Burnaby since I also live in Burnaby, and Kerrisdale is hella far. A few weeks later, no contact from the guy, so I message him asking if he wants his parts still since it's taking up my space. He says yeah, deliver it to Kerrisdale, and I just said no, we agreed on Burnaby. He then pulls this crap on me saying that he lives in Kerrisdale and that there's no way he would lug a bunch of parts home from his workplace, even though he agreed to it in the beginning. I told him there's no way I'm going to Kerrisdale when we made a deal, and he didn't even pay for the inspection yet like he agreed to. The guy then says "Look kid, don't talk to me like this I'm older than you and you're representing your shop. Use a shop car to drive it down" (the guy is in his 40s and I was 20). I cut him off before he went any further, telling him to either pick up his shit at his workplace like we agreed to, or I'm throwing it away. Got into a huge argument, I told him to fuck off and hung up.

Basically, yes I'm representing my shop when I'm at work and sometimes outside of work to potential customers. However, I do not represent my shop in my own personal matters. If I were selling my own car outside of my work hours on craigslist, my shop is NOT involved in the process. Same if I was getting my car painted or whatever work done. Yes if something messes up at the shop I work at, the shop covers all the expenses. If a customer is unhappy about something, the shop will do everything and usually swallow expenses even though they are not at fault. But as a worker here, I do not expect and I will not pay more for shit that is not my fault.

I understand where you're coming from jcmaz, and I do not mean to be offensive but you're almost making it sound like just because you're in a business you have to act professional 24/7 to everyone and suck it up otherwise, even in personal matters, which doesn't make much sense.


I ended up having to swallow my pride, and deliver the parts to the guy in Kerrisdale using one of my manager's personal cars since I didn't have a car big enough, because it looked bad on the shop. I said sorry too. Never offering inspections at my shop ever again in case another faggot like that comes along, fuck.

[jpark]

That sounds rather contradicting.
You took the incident to your personal matter, told the guy off but in the end because of the company image that has stamped through the process you eventually had to deliver the parts to him?
Your conclusion rather sounds something like "you can tell people to fuck off even if you are representing a business, but in the end you still have to suck their dicks"

[inv4zn]

Hahaha, I was impressed at how he maintained his strong stance all things considered.

...and then I read the spoiler and I was both disappointed and laughing:lawl:

[7seven]

I hope you somehow get compensated directly from Talha out of pocket Cman. How positive are you that the shop is actually under new ownership and they not just saying that for damage control purposes? I only say that because if you do a registry search, the corporate filings still list Talah/Talha and one of his relatives. It's business 101/common sense that when you purchase a business/ownership change, one of the first things you do is update the corporate filings, even a monkey knows that.

Honestly, after all this I'm more inclined to shop at BPG.

[kross9]

I hope you somehow get compensated directly from Talha out of pocket Cman. How positive are you that the shop is actually under new ownership and they not just saying that for damage control purposes? I only say that because if you do a registry search, the corporate filings still list Talah/Talha and one of his relatives. It's business 101/common sense that when you purchase a business/ownership change, one of the first things you do is update the corporate filings, even a monkey knows that.

Honestly, after all this I'm more inclined to shop at BPG.

Because paperwork times to process with the government? And I am amusing you paid the minimum 10$ to do it proper from the Government registry search as well.

Even if it is damage control still seems that the wrinkles are being ironed out as we speak..

[7seven]

Because paperwork times to process with the government? And I am amusing you paid the minimum 10$ to do it proper from the Government registry search as well.

Even if it is damage control still seems that the wrinkles are being ironed out as we speak..

Perhaps, its only taken a 2-3 days for the registrar to process other submissions to update corporate information at least electronically. I have access to various public and private databases through my private security/PMC businesses. Hopefully the shop has really changed and the individual responsible for taking joyrides in customers cars is really no longer involved.

[punkwax]

I used to laugh at a lot of ts14's posts... thought he was pretty funny and seemingly buddies with a lot of RS from what I read. Too bad he turned out to be a turd FeelsBadMan

[underscore]

I can sort of see jcmaz's thought process here, and if this was something like that fuckup with Nengun I'd tend to agree, but it isn't. The work Cman had done didn't involve his company in any way nor does it involve any client of his company so his reaction to this bullshit shouldn't reflect on his company at all.

[604STIG]

I hope you somehow get compensated directly from Talha out of pocket Cman. How positive are you that the shop is actually under new ownership and they not just saying that for damage control purposes? I only say that because if you do a registry search, the corporate filings still list Talah/Talha and one of his relatives. It's business 101/common sense that when you purchase a business/ownership change, one of the first things you do is update the corporate filings, even a monkey knows that.

Honestly, after all this I'm more inclined to shop at BPG.

My first thoughts when I read there was a "new owner" was it's probably one of Talha's relatives or buddies. Seen it happen before with other businesses for various other reasons but I wouldn't be surprised in this situation.

[Limitless]

That sounds rather contradicting.
You took the incident to your personal matter, told the guy off but in the end because of the company image that has stamped through the process you eventually had to deliver the parts to him?
Your conclusion rather sounds something like "you can tell people to fuck off even if you are representing a business, but in the end you still have to suck their dicks"

Yeah, I know it's contradicting lol. In the end my manager told me to just do it so I didn't really have a choice. I still think it's retarded that people are expected to act professional for their personal matters just because they work at any business to protect their name, and that's where I wanted to go with my post but the rant just kinda spiraled off. If I could redo my transaction a second time I would just tell the guy off and leave it at that.

[i-vtecyo]

Everything cman did was completely professional. The only part I could comment on is when he posted ts14's address with asterisks, mixed with numbers. Instead he could have waited for the results from Sam first or completely stop writing after he stated his intentions to speak with ts14's parents.

It is unfortunate that this kind of BS happened to those who were affected and especially to a vendor because then people expect professionalism from their post 24/7. Those reasons are why some people dont like to disclose their work information out there in the streets by wearing company sweaters, jackets or hats.

[VR6GTI]

Waiting for ts14
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[Curren$y]

Rookie RS member here...I just read this whole thread in one sitting.

Absolute gold.

It seems you can't trust anyone these days.

[dared3vil0]

Rookie RS member here...I just read this whole thread in one sitting.

Absolute gold.

It seems you can't trust anyone these days.

Unfortunately you're more or less right, but I think the reason this was such a big problem is that due to TS14 being an RS sponsor, people here are very good about supporting RS sponsors, as it seems the vast majority of them do really good work. Normally when someone hears that a shop did X wrong, they don't go to them, but with VIP people still went to them until the bitter end.

[fliptuner]

He was not affiliated with RS, other than being friends with and doing work for a small number of other users. I'm sure it was the reviews of said users that helped others on here, give his shop a chance.

[underscore]

It seems you can't trust anyone these days.

You've never been able to trust anyone, it's just more obvious thanks to the internet.

[jinxcrusader]

I don't think Ts14/VIP Autobody was ever a sponsor on here

[dared3vil0]

I don't think Ts14/VIP Autobody was ever a sponsor on here

Oh I didn't know that. My bad.

[Harvey Specter]

I've known C since 2003 and I can honestly say he's a stand up guy. I had tons of audio work done by him during his boyz audio days without any issues so his post doesn't reflect what type of person he is or how he operates his business, hell I think he was too easy on this guy for the BS he put him through.

[320icar]

He was on bcbimmers. It was immediately refunded and cancelled

[bcrdukes]

Cman333 = RS OG

[MindBomber]

To be honest, Talha's refusal to respond any further to the thread is the only intelligent thing he's done. It's obvious that he's only worsening the situation he's made for himself with his feeble responses.

[meme405]

He was not affiliated with RS, other than being friends with and doing work for a small number of other users. I'm sure it was the reviews of said users that helped others on here, give his shop a chance.

This.

VIP was never a sponsor on RS, but since the owner was a member, and there was a few people who had done work with him and praised him I decided to give them a chance.

One of the final things that drove me to make this thread was that constant threads asking for autobody recommendations were being responded to with VIP. So I decided to set it straight for everyone.

After all of this if anyone still wants to visit VIP well then they know what to expect.

[Cman333]

This.

VIP was never a sponsor on RS, but since the owner was a member, and there was a few people who had done work with him and praised him I decided to give them a chance.

One of the final things that drove me to make this thread was that constant threads asking for autobody recommendations were being responded to with VIP. So I decided to set it straight for everyone.

After all of this if anyone still wants to visit VIP well then they know what to expect.


IF ONLYYYYYYYYYY you made this thread like many weeks prior I definitely wouldn't have been one of his victims. Either or, through out all this bullshit, I probably wouldn't have made my own thread about VIP/Talha. I don't usually like doing this and putting people on blast, but when I read your post he already had my car so I had to roll with it. I thought I was a single victim of a one time bad incident. Once I saw how many others had similar experiences I had to speak up too. Feels like an online AA meeting or something lol

Thanks big time for taking the time to even make this thread. It really brought everything to light, and the kind words from you RS'ers helped put my mind at ease, and the douchebaggery was entertaining.

I guess we'll see in the new year if I make another rant. :p

Merry Christmas everyone.

[Cman333]

Everything cman did was completely professional. The only part I could comment on is when he posted ts14's address with asterisks, mixed with numbers. Instead he could have waited for the results from Sam first or completely stop writing after he stated his intentions to speak with ts14's parents.

I thought about it for awhile. I just wanted my money back from him. I felt personally ripped off by him. Kind of like a Craigslist scammer. So I figured I would let him know that he shouldn't fuck around and just settle up.

Hence why I didn't post a full address. Just a teaser so he knew I'm not just BS'ing. Sure I could've PM'd him but Pm'ing/Calling him got me nothing but repeated lies and false assurances.

I honestly feel I should've gotten ALL my money back, along with some compensation for the hassle, the damaged grill/gas cap and the fucking oil stains in my UBER clean garage floor. I see it every time I pull into my garage I think of this experience.

[BIC_BAWS]

Update: Talked to the new owner. He agreed to pay me back the rental charge. He'll have something mailed out to me and I should see it sometime after xmas. Once I get the cheque I'll delete my reviews/posts.

Soo.. did ya get your money back?

Also they finally closed their doors - Feb 2025

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/vip-autobody-burnaby

[snowball]

Soo.. did ya get your money back?

Also they finally closed their doors - Feb 2025

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/vip-autobody-burnaby

Feb 2025? The mention of this place in the other thread was meant to be, lol

[red kryptonite]

damn, just read the whole thread. what a shitshow.
seems like that sam guy was able to keep the lights on for 10years, guess he was doing something right.

[GS8]

Soo.. did ya get your money back?

Also they finally closed their doors - Feb 2025

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/vip-autobody-burnaby

VIP has been closed since 2020, based on google street view of that yelp address.

Also, per reddit, the brewery that took over that building was sold last year.

[68style]

Reading this thread was sure a trip down memory lane… so many fallen soldiers

[meme405]

Not a thread I expected bumped ever.