[The_AK]

World Premiere today

http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BMW-M2-images-32-750x500.jpg

The M2 has gone back to basics, but has added a modern twist. It uses a brand-new six-cylinder in-line engine, with M TwinPower Turbo technology and three-liter displacement, develops 272 kW/370 hp with peak torque of 465 Nm / 343 lb-ft. (Combined fuel consumption, with six-speed manual gearbox: 8.5 l/100 km [33.2 mpg imp]; CO2 emissions combined: 199 g/km; with optional M Double Clutch transmission [M DCT]: 7.9 l/100 km [35.8 mpg imp]; CO2 emissions combined: 185 g/km).

Peak torque of 465 Nm (343 lb-ft) can be increased to as much as 500 Nm (369 lb-ft) in short bursts under overboost.

All of that tech and power allows the M2, with the optional M Double Clutch Transmission (M DCT) in place and Launch Control activated, to sprint from rest to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.3 seconds (4.5 s with the six-speed manual gearbox). The top speed of the new BMW M2 is electronically limited to 250 km/h (155 mph). If the M Driver’s Package – which includes a BMW Driving Experience voucher for a track training course – is specified, this cut-off point doesn’t arrive until 270 km/h (168 mph).

More Here:
BMW M2 (http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/10/13/bmw-m2-370-horsepower-4-3-seconds-sprint-world-premiere/)

http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BMW-M2-vs-BMW-M235i-750x527.jpg

http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BMW-M2-vs-BMW-M235i-comparison-02-750x750.jpg

[The_AK]

More fap material here:

BMW M2 (http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/10/13/bmw-m2-370-horsepower-4-3-seconds-sprint-world-premiere/#jp-carousel-171518)

http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BMW-M2-images-01.jpg

http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BMW-M2-images-03.jpg

[knight604]

Too many M models these days, cant keep up..

STAP IT BMW.

[smoothie.]

KISS rule doesnt apply to carmakers anymore...

[dvst8]

Wouldn't be surprised if all the front ends are interchangeable between series. :)

[320icar]

They all look the same. Lost interest in BMW years ago

[68style]

Hahaha 3200lbs for a car that size!!!

And the nanny tranny is a whopping 300lbs heavier at 3515lbs! Crazy!

No wonder it needs nearly 400hp to perform.

[Hondaracer]

hate how all car companies, especially "higher end" brands have basically completely sold out..

Making 6 series sedans and S class coupes when they were essentially designated sports coupes or luxury sedans for the longest time.. irks me a little

[Teriyaki]

Can't even tell the M series from regular cars anymore. Same with AMG models and S-line. Every car just looks the same.

[HonestTea]

Looks much better than the 1M IMO

[westopher]

I can't believe people aren't excited about this. Most awesome car released since the GT4.
This is literally the only new car I would consider buying.

[slicrick]

Sounds like an awesome car, but I think the 1 series looked much better than the 2 series.

[E-SPEC]

Looks just like the rest of them.

[MikeyStyle]

The first-ever BMW M2. Official launchfilm.

[E-40six]

did everyone absolutely miss the MANUAL gear box that is standard on this thing or what?

[Alpine]

Wow, curb weight of 3450lbs or 3500lbs... And people said the mustangs/camaros/challengers were pigs lol.

[Galactic_Phantom]

Long beach blue? BMW, y u no yas marina blue:yuno:

[ae101]

is there gonna be a hatch model M2

are there even hatch model 2 in north america

[nns]

Front bumper is so ugly.

[GS8]

When I saw the weight...

http://media.giphy.com/media/USNlL9p2fxY6Q/giphy.gif

[jasonturbo]

Been waiting to see how this potentially impacts the value of the 1M which I feel is severely overpriced.

[Z3guy]

I lost interest in m cars after the f10 m5. The m4 is nice, but I would rather have an used 991s. Imo, the m2 looks absolutely fantastic. The m2 weight and the proportions makes the m4 look like a huge boat. I would like a loaded manual blue one!

[european]

like it!

[StylinRed]

looks pretty cool, but it also looks like the M1, M3, M4, M5, M7, M8, M9, M10, M11, M12, M13, M14...

[ae101]

^
what about the M16

http://www.newrayusa.com/imgs/records/859/61323.JPG
:troll:

[Alpine]

I lost interest in m cars after the f10 m5. The m4 is nice, but I would rather have an used 991s. Imo, the m2 looks absolutely fantastic. The m2 weight and the proportions makes the m4 look like a huge boat. I would like a loaded manual blue one!

Sadly there is no weight differnce between the m2 m3 and m4... They all weigh within 50lbs of each other. Silly bmw.

[westopher]

Wow, curb weight of 3450lbs or 3500lbs... And people said the mustangs/camaros/challengers were pigs lol.

Thats literally 600/650 lbs less than the challenger. Or 15% less weight. Invalid point is invalid.

[TOPEC]

like the M6 grandcoupe, this will be a M car that wont come with a LSD

[68style]

I can't believe people aren't excited about this. Most awesome car released since the GT4.
This is literally the only new car I would consider buying.

It's the feel....... I don't bother bringing it up with most people, because maybe I'm old (I don't think backup cameras and blindspot recognition systems etc. are cool) but I will bring it up with you because I think you totally get it based on what I know about you -- the feel is all gone. Have you driven a M235i? I would expect the dynamics are roughly the same... it's so neutered. Yah it's fast and I'm sure it handles great and stops on a dime... but the whole experience leaves me feeling like "Who cares?" afterwards. That high door sill/low seat position where you'd have to put your elbow over your head to hang an arm out an open window and a steering wheel that has about as much feedback as a GT5 wheel mounted to your coffee table............... there's no emotional connect. These cars are like one night stands... they're a great ride for the night and exciting to fool around with... but in the morning, you just want them gone and go back to your E36 or whatever else you had before.

[westopher]

I definitely agree with you on that. For me it comes down to, am I willing to sacrifice the old feel for new creature comforts, warranty, emissions and more importantly safety? As someone who has been in a pretty serious crash, safety is paramount, and you just can't compete with new cars. A car like this may have lost some feel with the electronic LSD, electronic steering, drive by wire etc, but I doubt its not a fun car still. I'm not moving to a newer car, but I can certainly understand the reasoning. This seems like they are really doing their best to keep up that old feel and still be able to sell cars.

[JoshuaWong]

I lost interest in m cars after the f10 m5. The m4 is nice, but I would rather have an used 991s. Imo, the m2 looks absolutely fantastic. The m2 weight and the proportions makes the m4 look like a huge boat. I would like a loaded manual blue one!

My thoughts exactly, although I don't really care about the weight. From my experience its more about how they "cope" with the weight. People shouldn't be so hung on about the weight. I driven plenty of car that "feel" similar in weight but they are not. Doesn't bother me one bit.

As for the manual option, I was one of the first to go for the DCT in my circle of friends... now they almost all migrated to the DCT from manual if thats saying something.

One of my uncle who had manual for all his past cars E36 Euro, E28 M5, E39 M5, B8 S4, EK9, just recently got the DCT for his F80 M3 and loving every bit... never looked back

I'm sure this will be a great car, as is typical M... some might argue its less exciting than past M cars, but its just different car for different times.

[StylinRed]

Wow, curb weight of 3450lbs or 3500lbs... And people said the mustangs/camaros/challengers were pigs lol.

The RCF weighs 4000lbs and people bitch about it non-stop, but it's a NA 5.0l V8 with 470hp and 390lb-ft of torque throw some turbos on that and :fullofwin: (lexus is supposedly coming out with a 600+hp twin turbo version for 2017)

[boostfever]

Been waiting to see how this potentially impacts the value of the 1M which I feel is severely overpriced.
and less attractive looking.
1M is a great fun car to drive though, and probably lighter than the M2. However, the 1-Series generally wasn't the best looking Bimmer out of Munich in the past decade.

[nsx042003]

The RCF weighs 4000lbs and people bitch about it non-stop, but it's a NA 5.0l V8 with 470hp and 390lb-ft of torque throw some turbos on that and :fullofwin: (lexus is supposedly coming out with a 600+hp twin turbo version for 2017)

They said that stuff when the ISF was out. that was when...2008? All depends on how many they sell...and I doubt it will be many....with the ugly of that car

M2...i still prefer the look of the M4, still looks squished like the 1 series was.

[Z3guy]

My thoughts exactly, although I don't really care about the weight. From my experience its more about how they "cope" with the weight. People shouldn't be so hung on about the weight. I driven plenty of car that "feel" similar in weight but they are not. Doesn't bother me one bit.

As for the manual option, I was one of the first to go for the DCT in my circle of friends... now they almost all migrated to the DCT from manual if thats saying something.

One of my uncle who had manual for all his past cars E36 Euro, E28 M5, E39 M5, B8 S4, EK9, just recently got the DCT for his F80 M3 and loving every bit... never looked back

I'm sure this will be a great car, as is typical M... some might argue its less exciting than past M cars, but its just different car for different times.

My previous E60 M5 and my current E93 M3 weigh about the same at 4000lbs and the only major difference was the wheelbase, engine overhang, and width. However, my M3 is way more enjoyable to drive, more nimble, and way more tossable Vs my E60 M5 which was just an under steering pig that once you choose your line through a turn that was it. Completely different driving experience even thought they weighed about the same......

[StylinRed]

They said that stuff when the ISF was out. that was when...2008? All depends on how many they sell...and I doubt it will be many....with the ugly of that car
really eh? i only started paying attention when the rc was coming out, and saw the supposed leak of their timeline, who knows, would be awesome :)

M2...i still prefer the look of the M4, still looks squished like the 1 series was.

the m2 looks nice from that front angle but the sides etc make it look meh, m4 does still look better i agree, even still they all look the same -_-

[Z3guy]

Sadly there is no weight differnce between the m2 m3 and m4... They all weigh within 50lbs of each other. Silly bmw.

the absolute weight is important, but how the weight is distributed is important as well.....how low is the centre of gravity?, how far forward does the engine hang off the front axle? how the weight is transferred to the rear wheels, etc.

[teggy604]

It's the feel....... I don't bother bringing it up with most people, because maybe I'm old (I don't think backup cameras and blindspot recognition systems etc. are cool) but I will bring it up with you because I think you totally get it based on what I know about you -- the feel is all gone. Have you driven a M235i? I would expect the dynamics are roughly the same... it's so neutered. Yah it's fast and I'm sure it handles great and stops on a dime... but the whole experience leaves me feeling like "Who cares?" afterwards. That high door sill/low seat position where you'd have to put your elbow over your head to hang an arm out an open window and a steering wheel that has about as much feedback as a GT5 wheel mounted to your coffee table............... there's no emotional connect. These cars are like one night stands... they're a great ride for the night and exciting to fool around with... but in the morning, you just want them gone and go back to your E36 or whatever else you had before.

pretty much sums it up. all the cars now a days are just disposable after a few years. E30 M3 less is more.

[Z3guy]

^ I would have to respectfully disagree with you, the E30 M3 drives like shit! heck, the 87/88 325is drove 10x better than an E30 M3. Unless you rev the shit out of the thing, a stock Camry would kick your arse.

[JoshuaWong]

^ I would have to respectfully disagree with you, the E30 M3 drives like shit! heck, the 87/88 325is drove 10x better than an E30 M3. Unless you rev the shit out of the thing, a stock Camry would kick your arse.

Interesting to hear you say that, but I'm sure there are a LOT of preconceptions running wild on the internet. Lots of people who never drove the car, simply passing on the experience shared by other supposed "drivers".

Case in point, I never got the hype about the 1M. TONS of people hyped over it and swear by it and defend it to the death still. To me its not that special, several prominent race drivers have said the same about the car.

But, I guess it couldn't hurt with the way its price is going. Buy it new, drive it, dump it and not lose any money is always a good thing.

[westopher]

E30 m3 is a car for the most tolerant of enthusiasts. Its a high reward car when you can flog it, but if you aren't flogging it all the time I can see it being frustrating.

[Z3guy]

in the day, most M car guys traded in their e30 M3s for the substantially more enjoyable E36 M3s....who doesn't like the torque from the inline 6.......:)

[westopher]

Find me someone who wants to make that trade plz.:)
Having both would be perfect though.

[Z3guy]

I remember in the early to mid 90s people couldn't off load their E30 M3 for $15K and E36 M3s were selling above the MSRP of $63K. I wanted an Estoril blue/white interior e36 M3 so badly....but my wallet only allowed me to get an 94 E36 318is. In 94, I had a chance to buy a low km a real racing dynamics E30 M3 for $20K, but I thought the 318 was a better car! man, was I stupid! haha?

[JoshuaWong]

Its a case of ever changing times. Always interesting when history looks back and re-judge the past with contemporary eyes. Same with fashion, politics, design, values.

My uncle loved the E36 M3 Euro and still sing high praises for it, when I started to know about cars I was always under the impression the E36 was one of the underdogs. One of my mom's friend sold her E30 M3 for next to nothing years back. She also had a Ferrari Daytona back in the days, of course, that car is rubbish by today's eyes.

I am curious how history will judge the E92 and F80...

[Z3guy]

My gut tells me an e92 manual m3 will eventually appreciate not because it is rare or anything but because it was end of the high revving na era. Similar to the 993 I think the f80 will have the same fate as the 996 unfortunately

[white rocket]

Kinda cool I guess. Actually fuck it, it's not. I feel like the "M" badge has been tossed around by BMW like a Thai hooker so I'm kind of anesthetized to anything they come out with. The more car manufacturers come out with new, exciting, revolutionary automobiles I find myself loving the older stuff more and more. If my neighbor bought one and showed up one day with it, I'd take one look at my ITR in the garage and think "thank God" : phew:

In defense of the 1M, it's the rarity of the car that boasts the excitement overall. Yeah, the car is nice and has that toss-ability to it but it's nothing crazy or out of this world. I like the fact that BMW made a car that eclipsed the M3 slightly then they discontinued it fearing it would eat into their M3 sales. THAT is cool and worth noting; hence the current price tag for a pre-owned one.

The E30 M3 has no business being discussed or compared to anything in today's current market as it is a completely different animal. It rewards those with the balls to drive it how it's meant to be driven. It is NOT an instant gratification car at all. An awesome car but not awesome for everybody.

[ZN6]

It's the feel....... I don't bother bringing it up with most people, because maybe I'm old (I don't think backup cameras and blindspot recognition systems etc. are cool) but I will bring it up with you because I think you totally get it based on what I know about you -- the feel is all gone. Have you driven a M235i? I would expect the dynamics are roughly the same... it's so neutered. Yah it's fast and I'm sure it handles great and stops on a dime... but the whole experience leaves me feeling like "Who cares?" afterwards. That high door sill/low seat position where you'd have to put your elbow over your head to hang an arm out an open window and a steering wheel that has about as much feedback as a GT5 wheel mounted to your coffee table............... there's no emotional connect. These cars are like one night stands... they're a great ride for the night and exciting to fool around with... but in the morning, you just want them gone and go back to your E36 or whatever else you had before.


Couldn't agree more. On paper and the performance of the car is so far removed from the actual driver skill that you'd have to drive it at 1/10ths at a time and that it's not exciting to drive at legal speeds.

For me it's always been leaps and bounds more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

[underscore]

I definitely agree with you on that. For me it comes down to, am I willing to sacrifice the old feel for new creature comforts, warranty, emissions and more importantly safety? As someone who has been in a pretty serious crash, safety is paramount, and you just can't compete with new cars.

If you want safety, the 02-05 4Runner (N210), 7 series (E6*) and G35 (V35) statistically have the fewest fatalities per capita out of any vehicles.

[AstulzerRZD]

did everyone absolutely miss the MANUAL gear box that is standard on this thing or what?

The standard manual transmission also comes with mandatory revmatching unless you're in Sport+, where the throttle becomes quite sensitive.

[bananana]

Kinda cool I guess. Actually fuck it, it's not. I feel like the "M" badge has been tossed around by BMW like a Thai hooker so I'm kind of anesthetized to anything they come out with. The more car manufacturers come out with new, exciting, revolutionary automobiles I find myself loving the older stuff more and more. If my neighbor bought one and showed up one day with it, I'd take one look at my ITR in the garage and think "thank God" : phew:

In defense of the 1M, it's the rarity of the car that boasts the excitement overall. Yeah, the car is nice and has that toss-ability to it but it's nothing crazy or out of this world. I like the fact that BMW made a car that eclipsed the M3 slightly then they discontinued it fearing it would eat into their M3 sales. THAT is cool and worth noting; hence the current price tag for a pre-owned one.



As a marketing guy, this is the future of branding. The trick is stop trusting branding in itself and look and particular examples of great product. If putting M badges on everything means BMW brings in more revenue so they can offer a fantastic product here and there that's totally cool with me.

[Z3guy]

^ unfortunately BMW is taking all those incremental m brand car profits and pumping it into the i line and not back into the m brand. At least Porsche sells more cayennes to fund a better 911

[bananana]

^ unfortunately BMW is taking all those incremental m brand car profits and pumping it into the i line and not back into the m brand. At least Porsche sells more cayennes to fund a better 911

Completely off-topic but the thread seems to have died anyways.

Not many people truly understand the i-Series BMWs. BMW i-series (although i3 is seriously ugly-AF) is a major game changer for the automotive industry.

i3: Body on full-aluminum frame, full carbon fibre construction -- no aluminum frame bracing or anything. Even the rollover protection A/B pillars. You don't find tech like this on anything but $1MM+ hypercars.

From a engineering/manufacturing perspective, BMW has created the first full carbon-fibre car + resin injection molding system that does not require an expensive and time-consuming autoclave process. There isn't an aluminum frame needed for panel mounting like in other CF cars. No rivets or mounting brackets are required anywhere, as the resin injection system also creates all of the necessary mounting points (out of resin). Tooling for the i3 is about 1/3 the cost for a conventional car -- $150MM vs $450MM for a regular 10-panel metal car. Along with all of this, BMW can pump an i3 off the line sub-5 minutes!. BMW has spent something like $2 Billion on R&D since 2003 to finally get to this point.

Absolutely insane and they're able to sell the damn thing for $50k AND make a decent profit.

i-Series is seriously the future of car manufacturing. BMW is so ahead of the game on this -- they are like NASA when compared with other car brands.

I'll attach two videos for anyone curious. Total time is a bit long but if you care about automotive manufacturing tech/ the future of cars this shit is highly recommended and beyond pornographic.

Disclaimer: I'm typing out of my ass so I apologize for probably getting a lot of numbers wrong.

https://youtu.be/pa5_tudyAF8

https://youtu.be/uDr4L6BzpP8

[skiiipi]

Sorry to bump an older thread..
But I might have missed it
What's the Canadian msrp on this?

[thumper]

$64k?

tofu where are you?

[Marco911]

I definitely agree with you on that. For me it comes down to, am I willing to sacrifice the old feel for new creature comforts, warranty, emissions and more importantly safety? As someone who has been in a pretty serious crash, safety is paramount, and you just can't compete with new cars. A car like this may have lost some feel with the electronic LSD, electronic steering, drive by wire etc, but I doubt its not a fun car still. I'm not moving to a newer car, but I can certainly understand the reasoning. This seems like they are really doing their best to keep up that old feel and still be able to sell cars.

No, BMW has been selling out for years. In order to pursue volume, they've driven cost out of the product and the cars' precise road feel has paid the price. The M-Division is mostly tarting up the pig like GM used to do at the Pontiac performance division to cars designed as Chevrolets.

Pretty much the only affordable automaker that hasn't sold out the enthusiast is Porsche.

[tofu1413]

$64k?

tofu where are you?



sup.


already have two RS members ordered.

[thumper]

sup.


already have two RS members ordered.

1. tofu.

2. ???

[Ferra]

Sorry to bump an older thread..
But I might have missed it
What's the Canadian msrp on this?

$64k?

tofu where are you?
I believe they are $61K? Also come fully loaded so no extras for exce/premium/tech package.
http://i.imgur.com/1qJLjMd.jpg

Which i think is a pretty good price since a loaded M235i cost about $53K, so only 8K more for the M. In comparison, a loaded M3/M4 is almost $25K more than a 335i/435i

[westopher]

61k? Shit. Thats cheaper than some people are asking for their '13 e92s

[thumper]

what the heck is "smokers package"? a cigarette lighter and ashtray?

and what is "speed limit info"? being an M2, would i care? :D

[tofu1413]

Speed limit info shows up on the HUD to tell you the local speed limit.. In case if you are speeding :lawl:

[Simplex123]

Couldn't agree more. On paper and the performance of the car is so far removed from the actual driver skill that you'd have to drive it at 1/10ths at a time and that it's not exciting to drive at legal speeds.

For me it's always been leaps and bounds more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow.
But then torque becomes a factor. The new turbocharged BMW's have so much more torque that is accessible for everyday driving. Whereas NAs really need to be wrung out. Yes it is rewarding, so I guess it's the matter of daily vs weekend car.

[Z3guy]

The M2 is quite the bargain! it sucks M cars are don't have exclusive drivetrains and suspensions like before, but for $61K, that is a bargain. Heck a Camaro ZL1 or a base Corvette C7 cost more than that!

[underscore]

Pretty much the only affordable automaker that hasn't sold out the enthusiast is Porsche.

:rukidding:

[tofu1413]

"affordable" @ marco911.

[skiiipi]

Speed limit info shows up on the HUD to tell you the local speed limit.. In case if you are speeding :lawl:

I thought there was no HUD for the 2 series?

[StylinRed]

Noticed BMW is offering buyers to pick up their M2 or M4 GTS in Germany with a 7 day driving tour/trip through Germany/Austria/Italy/France-Monaco

wonder how much that costs, or if it's included with purchase? (doubt it)

[thumper]

ask tofu. he has customer orders for the M2 and a lurker here is getting the GTS

[tofu1413]

I thought there was no HUD for the 2 series?


for the ones without it, it'll pop up on the colored portion of the instrument panel

[skiiipi]

Noticed BMW is offering buyers to pick up their M2 or M4 GTS in Germany with a 7 day driving tour/trip through Germany/Austria/Italy/France-Monaco

wonder how much that costs, or if it's included with purchase? (doubt it)

$6000 excluding flight
But all spots already filled

[xXSupa]

61k? That's cheaper than a fully loaded 335. Damn.

[donjalapeno]

This car is really growing on me. I love that blue colour and go pro app built in!!

[AudiFreak]

Wow, that is a bargain. Do 1M prices take a hit?

[E60_M5]

This year's trip is $5900 taxes in based on double occupancy. Everything is included except flights. I think the highlight for the trip this year would be the private track day at Salzburg Ring.

I was on the trip last year and our group drove on some of the best roads Europe had to offer. Stelvio Pass, Fluela Pass and a section of the Monte Carlo Rally.


Passo dello Stelvio (http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe/italy/58-passo-dello-stelvio-italy.html)

Flüela Pass (http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe/switzerland/370-flueela-pass-switzerland.html)

[skiiipi]

So I called a dealership today and was told that if I placed an order today the expected arrival would be Oct /Nov. ..which isn't exactly great driving weather.

Is it worth it to wait for 2017 model?

[E60_M5]

So I called a dealership today and was told that if I placed an order today the expected arrival would be Oct /Nov. ..which isn't exactly great driving weather.

Is it worth it to wait for 2017 model?

Because of high demand for the Euro trip, BMW added an extra trip in mid June (original trip is in May) for M2 customers. With that being said, almost all the early production M2 produced in March to May will be allocated to those attending.


MY2016 M2 stops production in 06/16, so MY2017 starts production in 07/16. If you are expecting delivery in Oct or Nov, Most likely your car will be a MY2017 as shipping from Germany to Canada takes around 8-10 weeks. If you want to make sure, just let your sales person know that you want their first allocation for a 2017 M2.

U.S. 2016 BMW Model Year Production Map (http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1082153)

[skiiipi]

As of now, there are only three allocations left for a 2016 M2. If the order is placed today, then production would be in June/July, in which the car would arrive around Oct/Nov. Unfortunately, all spots for the European Tour are filled in both phases, but they are taking names for a waiting list.

The deposit amount is $5000 and the rates aren't released yet for the car, but will most likely be 4.99% for finance and 5.9% for lease.

Ordering process is fairly straight forward since there's no packages to choose from except for exterior colour and some standalone options. I have attached a bulletin and order guide if you have any questions regarding the car itself. The ordering part can be done over phone, if you are comfortable with that, where I would just email over documents to confirm and sign.

that's what he said to me today.

[StylinRed]

wow, a 1yr wait... I was looking at getting a fun car for the summer, and this was in the back of my mind, but pulling more and more to the forefront, but there goes that idea

[skiiipi]

wow, a 1yr wait... I was looking at getting a fun car for the summer, and this was in the back of my mind, but pulling more and more to the forefront, but there goes that idea

Yea makes me want to just wait for the MY17 and maybe get it for like a spring delivery.
There is no way the M2 will be a 1 year only production right?
Would the price from the M2 go up in 2017 given the success of the 2016 model in terms of how fast they were sold out?

[twitchyzero]

So I called a dealership today and was told that if I placed an order today the expected arrival would be Oct /Nov. ..which isn't exactly great driving weather.

Is it worth it to wait for 2017 model?

it's a brand new model...let the early adopters take the hit and beta test the MY16 for ya and hopefully kinks will be ironed out for MY17

[StylinRed]

Yea makes me want to just wait for the MY17 and maybe get it for like a spring delivery.
There is no way the M2 will be a 1 year only production right?
Would the price from the M2 go up in 2017 given the success of the 2016 model in terms of how fast they were sold out?

the price may go up, seen that with the Ftype, although they're cutting the price for the 2017 model (and standard options)

they did it with the RC as well, but only minimally, iirc +/- $1k

but yeah, if it's such a long wait, who knows what other cars will be announced or pique your interest from now til then

[skiiipi]

so Calgary BMW said they have allocation spot left for March Production which would be for May pick up
they said they have 1 spot left
might just pull the trigger on that one

[twitchyzero]

if deposit is refundable and you can hold them to that May delivery date

[skiiipi]

so finally pulled the trigger at Birchwood BMW in Winnipeg
I'm no.2 on their dealership list for the M2
They are hoping for a late March Production with a June delivery.


Here is your order:
2016 BMW M2 Coupe
Long Beach Blue Metallic (C16)
Black Dakota Leather with Blue Contrast Stitching (LCNL)
Convenience Telephony with Smartphone Connectivity (6NS)
6-Speed Manual Transmission (ZMA)

Total Price: $66,354 plus taxes
Price includes Freight, PDI, Dealership Fees, Air Conditioning Tax, and Tire Levy


put a $2000 conditional deposit on the car, fully refundable if delivery not made by July 1st.
So lets hope they can back up their delivery date.

[thumper]

6-Speed Manual Transmission (ZMA)



http://i.imgur.com/FW8NDh1.jpg

[20psi]

Holy fuck that thing is heavy ...lolz. Looks SO boring.

[westopher]

so finally pulled the trigger at Birchwood BMW in Winnipeg
I'm no.2 on their dealership list for the M2
They are hoping for a late March Production with a June delivery.



put a $2000 conditional deposit on the car, fully refundable if delivery not made by July 1st.
So lets hope they can back up their delivery date.
Congrats! It's going to be fucking amazing!

[StylinRed]

so finally pulled the trigger at Birchwood BMW in Winnipeg
I'm no.2 on their dealership list for the M2
They are hoping for a late March Production with a June delivery.



put a $2000 conditional deposit on the car, fully refundable if delivery not made by July 1st.
So lets hope they can back up their delivery date.

congrats! gj on picking the only nice colour too :D

[Z3guy]

so finally pulled the trigger at Birchwood BMW in Winnipeg
I'm no.2 on their dealership list for the M2
They are hoping for a late March Production with a June delivery.



put a $2000 conditional deposit on the car, fully refundable if delivery not made by July 1st.
So lets hope they can back up their delivery date.
Congrats skiiipi, $67k for a brand spanking new m car is an amazing deal. Forget about paying $60k for a 1m or a 2013 m3.......

[skiiipi]

Lol yup
Weird part is I have no idea where I'm gonna live yet as I'm getting transfered for work soon.
So far it might be Vancouver , Calgary, Edmonton or Toronto.
If it's on the west coast I'll be sure to try to show up to a Revscene meet =)

[tofu1413]

M2 test drive meet :lawl:

[skiiipi]

M2 test drive meet :lawl:

There should be a bunch in Vancouver right?
You mentioned that you had 3 pre sold to people in revscene

And I know every BMW dealership I called in bc had at least 6 or 7 sold already.

I'm guessing the LBB color will be popular for the M2 too

[tofu1413]

There should be a bunch in Vancouver right?
You mentioned that you had 3 pre sold to people in revscene

And I know every BMW dealership I called in bc had at least 6 or 7 sold already.

I'm guessing the LBB color will be popular for the M2 too

indeed. I forwarded them to my colleague at new car store. :drunk:


but yeah, blue is the one to get!

http://d2fz9dc0ngozcr.cloudfront.net/images/zoolander-paris-fashion-1.jpg

[E60_M5]

For 2016, BMW ///M is all about the M4 GTS and M2. I cant wait to see these cars on the road.

[Retrac]

Congrats! It's going to look as good as it will be to drive!

[skiiipi]

Yea its going to be an agonizing few months while I wait for her arrival....
I haven't owned a brand new car since my Spec B, exciting times.

[jk6221]

Anyone here taking a European Delivery for their M2?

[Oshiguru]

I'm hoping they offer moonstone or silverstone for MY2017

[twitchyzero]

I hope someone will make OEM-looking widebody kit that make this look as aggressive as the 1M

edit: I thought the 1M rear fenders are more pronounced...nevermind

http://indyacars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BMW-M2-vs-1M.jpg

def seem like heavier cars for its size...e46 m3 coupe weighs around the same. I'm sure it'll be a riot to own...jelly.

[skiiipi]

Anyone here taking a European Delivery for their M2?


god forbid, but if birchwood BMW cant delivery the car by July, i might end up doing ED for next April.


I hope someone will make OEM-looking widebody kit that make this look as aggressive as the 1M

edit: I thought the 1M rear fenders are more pronounced...nevermind

http://indyacars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BMW-M2-vs-1M.jpg

def seem like heavier cars for its size...e46 m3 coupe weighs around the same. I'm sure it'll be a riot to own...jelly.

the 1M will always be a classic, super rare, limited production
I actually don't think the 1M will drop too much in price with the launch of the M2.
and If i remember correctly, 1M has hydraulic steering, which should mean better steering feel.
Though I drove the 991 this summer and found the steering to be good when it came to responsiveness and feedback.

Too bad I wasn't in the market for a car when the 1M came out, nor could I afford one back then.

[skiiipi]

BMW 1 Series M for Sale in Aurora, IL 60503 - Autotrader (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/BMW/1+Series+M/Aurora+IL-60503?endYear=2017&firstRecord=0&makeCode1=BMW&mmt=%5BBMW%5B1SERIESM%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=1SERIESM&searchRadius=0&showcaseOwnerId=67719&startYear=1981&Log=0&showcaseListingId=419268936&showcaseOwnerId=67719&captureSearch=true&fromSIP=4103232CD981A405ECB5455BA4C7BC09&showToolbar=true&Log=0)

just did a quick search (couldn't find any for sale in Canada)
1M still more expensive than M2 new.

Crazy.....

[E60_M5]

BMW 1 Series M for Sale in Aurora, IL 60503 - Autotrader (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/BMW/1+Series+M/Aurora+IL-60503?endYear=2017&firstRecord=0&makeCode1=BMW&mmt=%5BBMW%5B1SERIESM%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=1SERIESM&searchRadius=0&showcaseOwnerId=67719&startYear=1981&Log=0&showcaseListingId=419268936&showcaseOwnerId=67719&captureSearch=true&fromSIP=4103232CD981A405ECB5455BA4C7BC09&showToolbar=true&Log=0)

just did a quick search (couldn't find any for sale in Canada)
1M still more expensive than M2 new.

Crazy.....

There is a black 1M for sale at Brian Jessel Preowned right now. I think they are asking 60k.

[westopher]

Yep, and it has a claim on it apparently, albeit a small one.
While the 1m is cool, and will be a collector car down the road, the M2 should affect its pricing because there is nothing about the 1M that sets it far apart experience wise from the M2. The m2 still has a manual, they are both turbo, both small and somewhat overweight, both a bit awkward looking (although I still love the way both of them look.)
The nostalgia factor isn't strong enough on a 5 year old car to prop it up I don't think.

[tofu1413]

im suspecting the launch of the M2 won't make a difference on 1M pricing.


theres only 220 copies of those damn cars for Canadian market... and theyre still sought after. apparently black is the rarest.

lots of fun to drive. Shorter, stubbier e9x m3 with more torque!

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12745704_10153552049966559_8874590172129545489_n.j pg?oh=4cba2bb2429d48c7b3d11f718574cd30&oe=576FE166

[skiiipi]

Yep, and it has a claim on it apparently, albeit a small one.
While the 1m is cool, and will be a collector car down the road, the M2 should affect its pricing because there is nothing about the 1M that sets it far apart experience wise from the M2. The m2 still has a manual, they are both turbo, both small and somewhat overweight, both a bit awkward looking (although I still love the way both of them look.)
The nostalgia factor isn't strong enough on a 5 year old car to prop it up I don't think.

We will have to wait for reviews I guess.
Embargo is lifted as of 6pm est tomorrow
So we will start seeing reviews of the car.

A lot of people assume the 1m will be more raw and have better steering feel due to the hydraulic steering.

[tofu1413]

can't beat the on centre feel of a hydraulic system.

[skiiipi]

https://youtu.be/esH3VV3_90Q

[bcuzracecarz]

For all the geeks out there like myself :nerd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j1N_Rf7lLI

[bcuzracecarz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn1VpNNdHyw

[jackp0t]

I will leave this here M2 with full on M performance parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CgZ71fGfeM&feature=youtu.be

Anyone speak german :badpokerface:

[jackp0t]

A little off topic
Here is also a widebody kit made for 235i
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7341/16272379027_addfe4ea30_h.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7378/16270626808_f48ca26200_h.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/16456579471_a754933f4a_h.jpg

Very clean looking widebody reminds me of a 1M widebody

[bcuzracecarz]

I personally prefer the m235 m performance front end over the M2, like the way it flows much better

[skiiipi]

A little off topic
Here is also a widebody kit made for 235i
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7341/16272379027_addfe4ea30_h.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7378/16270626808_f48ca26200_h.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/16456579471_a754933f4a_h.jpg

Very clean looking widebody reminds me of a 1M widebody


Fully loaded stock m235i is actually more expensive than a m2
Now this kit will probably cost a lot
I do love that blue though

Jury is still out on the LBB. I haven't seen one in person yet

[Digitalis]

Whats the price diff btwn a new m2 and m4? Both base trims.

[skiiipi]

Whats the price diff btwn a new m2 and m4? Both base trims.

M4 I think is 75K base with no options
M2 is 61K

so 14K diff?

[jackp0t]

Fully loaded stock m235i is actually more expensive than a m2
Now this kit will probably cost a lot
I do love that blue though

Jury is still out on the LBB. I haven't seen one in person yet

Is it really more expensive yikes
m2 all the way!

Congrats on the purchase

[skiiipi]

Is it really more expensive yikes
m2 all the way!

Congrats on the purchase

yea M2 is really a good value
a M235i fully loaded with all the options ticked is 62K for the rwd version
but of course lower interest rate than the M2
and room for negotiation
vs M2 are all basically sold at MSRP

and you probably dont have to wait close to a year to get a M235i

[bcuzracecarz]

There's the video comparison we were looking for, no commentary but still
https://youtu.be/suDPGEo8_F4

[jk6221]

Mineral Grey example sitting at BMW Canada. More pictures on the "Sick Cars of Vancouver" Thread.

[iHeat]

I know this is M2 thread but I spotted this today on commercial and its HNGGGGGGGGGG

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t34.0-12/12735852_10208023822889008_1786333087_n.jpg?oh=a93 71673709e0345a3c1cababb142787&oe=56CAB072https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t34.0-12/12735773_10208023823249017_1719538682_n.jpg?oh=ef1 6c78a5593695b18ec16e13888b043&oe=56CA97F5

[bcuzracecarz]

I'm a little shocked by that number on the dyno but figure it wasn't exactly done as well as it should have been.

https://youtu.be/6PrVU55OOGw

[Gumby]

Great marketing idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dm7gFFFgs

[The_AK]

1m and m2, so much hnnnnng

[jasonturbo]

Spotted a white M2 on Robson today, mehhh just not feeling it.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/jasonturbo/056AD1D6-CCB3-4F71-A5EB-2807AFAC1A20.jpg

Are the 1 piece buckets not an available option for the M2?

[bcuzracecarz]

^^^ nope, only the one interior option, all black with the blue stitching. Which I'd say is super lazy imo for an M car

[jk6221]

^^^ nope, only the one interior option, all black with the blue stitching. Which I'd say is super lazy imo for an M car

In fairness, the 1M only came with Black Leather w/ red stitching and no one ever complained about that.

[tofu1413]

yep.


Boston leather w/ orange stitching.


the 1M's did come with a suede trim and a suede instrument panel hood.

[xjc11]

Build and price for m2 is now available on BMW Canada website
Basically pick the color and whether you want DCT or manual
Also has the list of all standard options