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underscore
10-15-2015, 12:29 AM
Hey guys, I'm helping my parents find some high performance all seasons for their 2006 G35 but sine I personally don't use them I know zip. They live in Coquitlam and the car won't be leaving the GVRD in the winter or leaving their place the couple of days a year it might snow down there, so snow performance isn't much of a concern. They just want to be able to drive it locally most of the year and use it on trips in the summer without having to change tires with the seasons since they don't drive it very much.

TIA

bcrdukes
10-15-2015, 12:53 AM
I think most people will say Continental DWS.

JackAss
10-15-2015, 01:16 AM
general gmax as-03 takes my vote

flagella
10-15-2015, 05:01 AM
Yep. Just go with dws.

supafamous
10-15-2015, 06:18 AM
DWS, the new version just came out as well.

BUT....what part of Coquitlam do they live in? Some parts turn into a nightmare when it does snow and some winters it's not just a couple days. Would they be better off with a set of all-weathers like Nokian WRG3s?

Craven morhead
10-15-2015, 06:47 AM
Michelin a/s 3. Happy with them.

BoostedBB6
10-15-2015, 06:52 AM
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. Used many, wont use anything but Michelin now.

keifun
10-15-2015, 07:18 AM
Im on the general gmax AS03 as well. So far so good!

smoothie.
10-15-2015, 08:01 AM
Im on the general gmax AS03 as well. So far so good!

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. Used many, wont use anything but Michelin now.

general gmax as-03 takes my vote

I have the gmax right now, and they're quite chirpy when taken to the limits, and could have better wet grip.

I would've gone for the Pilot Sport A/S 3 if they were out at the time, I think they're better overall.

underscore
10-15-2015, 08:10 AM
DWS, the new version just came out as well.

BUT....what part of Coquitlam do they live in? Some parts turn into a nightmare when it does snow and some winters it's not just a couple days. Would they be better off with a set of all-weathers like Nokian WRG3s?

Near Coquitlam Centre I think, they have another vehicle as well that they'll share on snowy days or to leave the GVRD in the winter.

LuHua
10-15-2015, 08:34 AM
Pretty happy with my new BFG Comp-2 A/S, grips hard even in pouring rain.

Lowered_Klass
10-15-2015, 11:16 AM
Michelin a/s 3. Happy with them.

I put these on the wifes car last year. They're awesome. Nice and quiet, monsters in the rain, and still very good in dry conditions when pushed. They replaced DWS that we had on there previous, and they're just as good, if not better.

320icar
10-15-2015, 11:28 AM
Pilot sport as3 all the way

akira112
10-15-2015, 11:38 AM
Dws

double0seven
10-15-2015, 11:47 AM
Running re970as which isn't too popular I think but they are pretty good in the rain

Timpo
10-15-2015, 12:07 PM
MotoMaster SE (all season) is on sale now.

$32.33/tire (was $107.99/tire)

MotoMaster SE - Canadian Tire (http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/tires/all-season-tires/product/0031521P/motomaster-se/)

http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/CanadianTire/0031521_1?wid=320&hei=320&qlt=70&resMode=sharp2

Zedbra
10-15-2015, 12:20 PM
My cousin manages an OK Tire shop and he got me drinking the Continental Kool Aid. I had DWS originally and they were good tires but wore quickly. This time I tried their PureContact tires and these things have been awesome for driving around here.

I rip the S2S everyday, a little faster than the posted limits to say the least, in all conditions. The PureContacts stick like glue and have thoroughly impressed me. Also, I would only get two seasons out of my DWS tires (I drive 50k per year) but I am going to easily get 3 seasons out of the PureContacts. I definitely recommend them.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=PureContact+with+EcoPlus+Technology


edit - I should note that I do swap these tires out for snowies from October-March

theSpeedSyndicate
10-15-2015, 12:37 PM
Michelin Pilot Sport AS-3 are by far the best high performance all season.
Also get $70 rebate with purchase of a set of four. Oct 5- Dec 31

melloman
10-15-2015, 01:47 PM
I've been running Continental DWS on my car, drive more aggressive then most for a daily, and I can say, they wear QUICK.

Otherwise no complaints, grips well in wet and dry. Could be a bit better in wet.

AzNightmare
10-15-2015, 03:14 PM
I personally use Pilot Sport A/S 3.

Looks like the DWS might have a slight advantage in the snow though.

StanleyR
10-15-2015, 03:18 PM
I've been running Continental DWS on my car, drive more aggressive then most for a daily, and I can say, they wear QUICK.



How quick you guys talkin?

My 07 Focus has had them for almost 40k and I can stil fully see the DWS on the tread (indicating they are ready for their third winter).

For price alone next time I'm going with General RT43's

GS8
10-15-2015, 05:32 PM
All suggestions in this thread are good (then there's Timpo). I think the only deciding factor will be price / budget. Is money no object? Looking for bang for buck?

I'm looking at the GMAX tires as well based on pricing

Cman333
10-15-2015, 06:17 PM
I've used Continental DWS for my last two cars. I think they handle quite well for the price, treadwear is acceptable also. I considered the GMAX's also for the old car but decided against it when I combed tire reviews and saw a few sidewall blowouts on multiple sites. So for the little bit of money saved it wasn't worth the hassle to me since they were somewhat low profile tires.

jcmaz
10-15-2015, 06:35 PM
DWS for sure. They are good tires which perform well in the rain or snow. However, the sidewall is kinda soft.

mb_
10-15-2015, 07:11 PM
+1 to Pilot Sport A/S 3

Our customers that bought them love it

GeeGeeCivic
10-15-2015, 07:36 PM
I currently have the General G-max as I was looking for the same (as close as you can get to all season performance and value) and with some snow capability.

From my experience, I feel that they do quite well for it's price. I only drive on the street and do some spirited driving. They do chirp a bit when I take some corners but in most cases they can handle more than I think. However, my car is awd so it will vary with a rwd.
I havent driven these on snow or ice so ill see how they do this winter.

Also, another thing to note is that the General Gmax weighs a few pounds less than most other tires so less rotational mass (faster acceleration?) but this is probably the reason why some people say the sidewall is soft...

E-SPEC
10-15-2015, 07:40 PM
I have DWS and they are excellent!

supafamous
10-15-2015, 08:51 PM
I've been running Continental DWS on my car, drive more aggressive then most for a daily, and I can say, they wear QUICK.

Otherwise no complaints, grips well in wet and dry. Could be a bit better in wet.

I've got the DWS on my TSX and it's got about 55K on it with plenty of tread left. Could go another 20-30K. That said, the edge is off the tires - after 4 years they are not as grippy on dry or wet surfaces so I'll probably replace them next spring.

Since I have winters available I'll probably opt for Michelin Pilot A/S 3s - they allegedly suck in light snow but are great otherwise.

DHP 1
10-15-2015, 08:59 PM
DWS hands down, they are our no.1 selling tires for a reason. Much better in snow compare to Michelin a/s 3

only downside is the sideway is pretty damn soft, however they do not hydroplane in our weather. With the amount of pissing rain we get, that should be one of ur main concern.

LuHua
10-15-2015, 10:04 PM
Since so many people are pointing towards the DWS, maybe you can see if you can get your hands on the DWS06.

Noran
10-15-2015, 11:40 PM
AS/3 gets my vote. Supreme wet weather grip, comfortable, quiet, and great tire wear as far as we have experienced. I don't have any information on snow/slush capabilities as we have a set of snow tires that we use during the winter months.

inb4 a/s v winter tire debate

xXSupa
10-15-2015, 11:45 PM
Conti DWS is definitely the best bang-for-buck all season high performance tire, if that's what you're looking for. However, I wouldn't quite say they're the best in the category. Still pretty close to the top though.

knight604
10-15-2015, 11:52 PM
Honestly either its AS/3s or DWS , you cannot go wrong with them.

I would hate to see people cheap out on tires, like that is the first contact from your car to the ground.

underscore
10-16-2015, 10:00 AM
Thanks for all the input guys. Cost isn't too much of a concern, more the convenience of not having to switch tires twice a year on a car that they barely use. My go-to place for tires is 1010 and they don't list Continental (at least not in the sizes the G35 needs) so thus far I'm going to be suggesting the AS/3.

jjson
10-16-2015, 10:34 AM
DWS hands down, they are our no.1 selling tires for a reason. Much better in snow compare to Michelin a/s 3

only downside is the sideway is pretty damn soft, however they do not hydroplane in our weather. With the amount of pissing rain we get, that should be one of ur main concern.

It is true that it does not hydro even at highway speeds through standing water. The steering wheel does not tug.

jjson
10-16-2015, 10:36 AM
Thanks for all the input guys. Cost isn't too much of a concern, more the convenience of not having to switch tires twice a year on a car that they barely use. My go-to place for tires is 1010 and they don't list Continental (at least not in the sizes the G35 needs) so thus far I'm going to be suggesting the AS/3.

1010 does carry Conti. Maybe try calling them first for size? Also TSS carries them too

AzNightmare
10-16-2015, 01:14 PM
Consumer ratings at TireRack

A/S 3
http://oi59.tinypic.com/of8tck.jpghttps://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/michelin/mi_pilot_spt_as3_pdp124trd.jpg

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+A%2FS+3+(W-+or+Y-Speed+Rated)&partnum=445YR9PSAS3


DWS
http://oi60.tinypic.com/15ewc3d.jpghttp://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/conti/co_xtrcontactdws_pdp124trd.jpg

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS

KO7
10-17-2015, 09:14 AM
I love my Michelin AS3s so far, but wouldn't have confidence in them in light snow or ice judging by online reviews. Guess I will use the ugly steelies and snow tires for at least another winter.

svelt
10-19-2015, 02:18 PM
I went with A/S 3s as they seem to be the better performer of the two front runners (DWS being the other one) but it really sounds like you can't go wrong with either. If you really need the reliability to drive during the few times we see snow in town a year, then the DWS is the better all rounder, but if you've got a second vehicle with snows or have some other way to manage the A/S 3s seem like they can rival the performance of an average summer tire.

Nlkko
10-19-2015, 05:34 PM
Not high performance but I have a set of DWS since 2010. This thing last forever.

european
10-21-2015, 01:50 PM
I had Toyo Proxes 4 Plus on my Prelude before the part out and sold the vehicle.
They were great.
I'm not sure if they qualify as a high performance tire though. Definitely an all season with excellent grip in both wet and dry conditions.
I purchased them from 1010tires/Volco tires in Vancouver

MR_BIGGS
01-04-2016, 05:49 PM
Bumping an old thread.

I'm looking to put brand new all seasons on my 2013 c300.

Can someone recommend me a good set to get and a good place to buy them where they price match?

Sounds like Contintental DWS or Michelin a/s 3 are the top picks. I want tires that will last me, are good in the wet weather, can take on spirited driving and acceleration.

TIA

supafamous
01-04-2016, 06:59 PM
Bumping an old thread.

I'm looking to put brand new all seasons on my 2013 c300.

Can someone recommend me a good set to get and a good place to buy them where they price match?

Sounds like Contintental DWS or Michelin a/s 3 are the top picks. I want tires that will last me, are good in the wet weather, can take on spirited driving and acceleration.

TIA

Nothing's changed. DWS06 if you need a bit of snow performance or AS3 if you are gonna run winters.

Costco has the best pricing on the AS3. Contact DriveHard for pricing on the DWS 06.

meme405
01-04-2016, 07:46 PM
MotoMaster SE (all season) is on sale now.

$32.33/tire (was $107.99/tire)

MotoMaster SE - Canadian Tire (http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/tires/all-season-tires/product/0031521P/motomaster-se/)

http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/CanadianTire/0031521_1?wid=320&hei=320&qlt=70&resMode=sharp2

LOL. I understand why this got failed, but isn't anyone else atleast somewhat impressed that you can put 4 new tires under your car for less than $200 CAD?

I mean for that price you could put on a new set every year

KO7
01-04-2016, 08:03 PM
1010tires has the new DWS 06 too, I have them on my R now.

dovo
01-04-2016, 08:10 PM
Found out cdn tire got micheline as3 on sale for 160.40 per. Kal tire beat the price by 5%. Now costco has the $70 instant rebate which kal tire wont match.

Kal tire's total quoted for install/balance eco disposal fee and tpms fee(?) Wtf of $39.84 came out to be $834 taxes in.

Costco is 697.97 with install and $780 after tax. I wonder if costco will balance it for you or not. If they dont balance kal has the best deal on this in town now.

supafamous
01-04-2016, 08:44 PM
Costco is 697.97 with install and $780 after tax. I wonder if costco will balance it for you or not. If they dont balance kal has the best deal on this in town now.

Costco install includes balancing.

dovo
01-04-2016, 09:06 PM
Costco install includes balancing.

Thanks. Cant beat costco then.

Jmac
01-04-2016, 10:27 PM
Found out cdn tire got micheline as3 on sale for 160.40 per. Kal tire beat the price by 5%. Now costco has the $70 instant rebate which kal tire wont match.

Kal tire's total quoted for install/balance eco disposal fee and tpms fee(?) Wtf of $39.84 came out to be $834 taxes in.

Costco is 697.97 with install and $780 after tax. I wonder if costco will balance it for you or not. If they dont balance kal has the best deal on this in town now.
TPMS fee is for calibrating your Tire Pressure Monitoring System AFAIK

Jmac
01-04-2016, 11:18 PM
For what it's worth, Consumer Reports (April 2015) lists the top 5 ultra high performance all seasons as:
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric All Season
Hankook Ventus S1 noble 2
Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season
Cooper Zeon RS3-A

Cman333
01-05-2016, 04:08 PM
For what it's worth, Consumer Reports (April 2015) lists the top 5 ultra high performance all seasons as:
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric All Season
Hankook Ventus S1 noble 2
Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season
Cooper Zeon RS3-A

I had P-Zero Nero A/S before and they were good for a couple months and found that they started sucking pretty fast.

I've been running DWS for my last couple cars and find they handle better in wet, last longer, quieter, etc.

Keep in mind I don't push my car/tires to the limits. I'm like a SUPER cautious spirited driver. I may go a little faster than speed limit, but not excessive. I don't do crazy turns for the fear I lose control and hit someone.

So for me DWS and PZero Nero A/S performed similar in the Dry. But in the wet/light snow, DWS hands down. Tread life wasn't as good either with P-Zero Nero A/S. 1.5 years and tires were toast, DWS ran 2+ years and had TONS of tread still.

ime2006
01-05-2016, 10:50 PM
I have DWS on my car now.
The car is 4MATIC
It really works very well under wet / winter condition.

But if I change it to PSS or P ZERO™ NERO™ GT now.
Is it going to be a lot different in driving during winter weather???

Will my car slide all the time with aggressive driving ?? Even with 4MATIC system