[whiteTDIpowa]

I could make this decision myself, and obviously still will but the community in Vancouver has a vast taste for cars and performance so why not ask you guys/gals.

50k budget to spend on a new 2016 car....

What would you end up getting?

I've owned

-ser spec v
-civic sir ep3
-srt-4
-wrx sti (2)
-skyline (3)
-other 4 cylinder turbos

Never owned

-a V8

Only thing is preferably the car should be AWD since I hit the mountain in the winter.

GO!

[Marshall Placid]

Off the top of my head, V8 AWD at the 50k price range will have to be used.

You mentioned new, 2016.

For new 2016, 4 cyc though:

S3?

The next year (or maybe early next year) will have the virtual cockpit option, so that is worth a gander.

Biased.

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Used, AWD, V8, MANUAL (if you like Manual), go for the 2011 Audi S5.

It's around $35k used.

And, you save a bunch, which you could use to mod it up.

[whiteTDIpowa]

Yes the new S3 and Golf R look like very good options, I have test driven both already, personally I enjoyed the Golf R more.

As for V8, I know new AWD and V8 isn't possible....but in a used category I have been interested in the S5 just haven't driven one yet.

[Lomac]

If by the mountain you mean a place like Whistler or one of the closer ski hills, having AWD just for that purpose is pointless. Now, if you live up North like Berzerker or in the Interior like myself, then it might be useful (and even then, it's only optional imo). In the GVRD, not much point having it.

[vyrospec]

My picks:
S3 / Golf R - has awd
STI - has awd + you had subis before
EVO (final edition) - has awd
TLX SHAWD - subtle choice
Q50 AWD - subtle choice
Regal GS - sleeper choice (has manual option as well)

[GS8]

Not sure if these are your cup of tea but you can get one nicely equipped for around $50k. Not sure about 2016 pricing but you can trim off options to keep the price down (more performance, less luxury options).

?? 2015 FORD MUSTANG GT 6-SPD MAN BREMBOS ?? (http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/ctd/5306300378.html)

[meme405]

Does car or SUV or truck matter?

SQ5? With a few incentives you can get one around 50k.

[Marshall Placid]

Does car or SUV or truck matter?

SQ5? With a few incentives you can get one around 50k.

I test drove the SQ5, and it's a hoot to drive.

You get trunk space, acceleration, massive torque, and generally good handling for a SUV.

For the performance, quality (interior), it's a good "value".

But, it's near the end of the model cycle.

The original Q5 came out in 2008, and with a 7 or 8 year cycle (with a refresh 2 years ago), the Q5 range is going to be redesigned in a year or two.

[BBMme]

Wait for the gmc canyon with the 2.8L duramax

[OGCStrike]

My picks:
S3 / Golf R - has awd
STI - has awd + you had subis before
EVO (final edition) - has awd
TLX SHAWD - subtle choice
Q50 AWD - subtle choice
Regal GS - sleeper choice (has manual option as well)

doesnt the EVO final edition come without the recaros? :heckno:

[toyota86]

m235i rwd 6mt is 45k
m235i awd 6mt is 48k

Factory mechanical LSD option is around 2-3k. Pretty much the only option an enthusiast really needs.
Personally, I believe rwd and manual would be the only way to go on a bmw.

[Nabatron]

Would get new sti

[whiteTDIpowa]

The 235i wasn't a choice because I had such trouble actually finding one, and I wasn't aware they came in AWD.

[tofu1413]

+1 to S3.... Tons of fun.

[whiteTDIpowa]

Checked out vids and reviews on the SQ5....the thing is pretty sweet actually!....also found my way to the RS5, V8 with a 8,500rpm redline, wtf sweet haha

[J-Chow]

A minivan.

I bought myself a fucking minivan for $50k. :rukidding:

[white rocket]

^^hahaha. Me Too. Like a week ago. Too funny.

OP: Are you looking to spend $50K? Or is that just what you have allocated to purchase a vehicle? I'm lovin' the new Taco so that would be on my list with money left over for goodies. Also a 4Runner. Brand new under $50K fully loaded is doable. Really can't go wrong with Toyota from a reliability, value, comfort, and resale standpoint.

The new STI would be worth a look. I'm not really into it but it is a nice car for the money. No euro love from me as I'm not a fan.

[Hehe]

The Acura TLX SHAWD is not a bad option.

50k can get you the fully loaded elite trim and comes with all the bells and whistle of latest car gadgetery. The SHAWD is very good, although some people might not like the fact that it's front biased.

Granted the transmission is a bit wonky at first, but after a few weeks in, it gets better. I think the car learns your driving habits and adjusts accordingly.

But if you are looking for a fun car, as other have mentioned, go BMW 2-series or Audi S3. The smaller size/weight would make tons of difference.

[Hehe]

The Acura TLX SHAWD is not a bad option.

50k can get you the fully loaded elite trim and comes with all the bells and whistle of latest car gadgetery. The SHAWD is very good, although some people might not like the fact that it's front biased.

Granted the transmission is a bit wonky at first, but after a few weeks in, it gets better. I think the car learns your driving habits and adjusts accordingly.

But if you are looking for a fun car, as other have mentioned, go BMW 2-series or Audi S3. The smaller size/weight would make tons of difference.

[thumper]

dunno the price or if it will be built but you said awd v8 :thumbsup:

AWD Dodge Challenger GT Concept Is What Dreams Are Made From - Gear Heads (http://gearheads.org/awd-dodge-challenger-gt-concept-is-what-dreams-are-made-from/)

http://a38898d4011a160a051fb191.gearheads.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/dodge-challenger-gt-awd-concept-01-1024x642.jpg?9939c0

or troll the police surplus auctions for one of these:

2015 Dodge Charger Pursuit V-8 AWD Test ? Review ? Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-dodge-charger-pursuit-v-8-awd-test-review)

http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/2015-dodge-charger-pursuit-awd-inline1-photo-654875-s-original.jpg

[Traum]

The answer is always "Miata".

ND Miata -- ~$42k OTD including taxes and fees
Wheels and tires -- $2600
Suspension -- $3500
Header + Exhaust -- $1000
ECU tune - $800

total: $49900

[donjalapeno]

SQ5 :drool:

http://fourtitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2015-SEMA-Show-Audi-326.jpg

If i was in your position and believe me i wish i was. I would get a C63 no questions asked. That car is a fucking evil spirit.

[KO7]

m235i rwd 6mt is 45k
m235i awd 6mt is 48k

Factory mechanical LSD option is around 2-3k. Pretty much the only option an enthusiast really needs.
Personally, I believe rwd and manual would be the only way to go on a bmw.

M235i AWD is not available in 6MT.

[meme405]

Another good one would be an Xterra, they are going out of production, but a great capabale off-roader, and they Can be had for much less than your budget fully optioned out.

Plus you can get them in 6MT.

These types of vehicles with proper off-road gear like locking diffs, and proper trail suspension are going extinct, and with a 6MT they are like unicorns.

If you buy a brand new 6MT, PRO-4X xterra, next year when they are no longer available you will be able to sell it for next to no loss.

I was thinking of picking one up for that sheer fact, but unfortunately I need a pickup for the instances where I might need to put something in the back.

[toyota86]

The 235i wasn't a choice because I had such trouble actually finding one, and I wasn't aware they came in AWD.

Do factory order and euro delivery. Drive around on the ring then ship it back.

[westopher]

I don't think AWD is as necessary as many think for mountain trips.
It doesn't meet your parameters due to RWD but an e90 m3 is a pretty awesome way to enjoy a v8.

[tofu1413]

brapppppppppppppppppppppppp and 8300 rpm everydayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! :lawl:

[b0unce. [?]]

Get a landcruiser and don't look back.

[punkwax]

A minivan.

I bought myself a fucking minivan for $50k. :rukidding:

^^hahaha. Me Too. Like a week ago. Too funny

50k AWD minivan crew checking in! :alonehappy:

On topic: WRX STI

[Timpo]

well we all know that it's coming to Canada

http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/965773.jpg
http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/965784.jpg

[whiteTDIpowa]

Wouldn't mind a Cadillac CTS-V wagon with 6speed manual....unicorn.

[!LittleDragon]

5.0 Genesis sedan is AWD, going to have to be used unless maybe the 2015's go on clearance in a few months...

[richardmozis]

CLA 45 AMG is right around that price range.

[Gucci Mane]

Wouldn't mind a Cadillac CTS-V wagon with 6speed manual....unicorn.

please go this route and make me thoroughly jelly.

[R. Mutt]

I agree. Never thought I'd fall for a Cadillac but this car has presence. Canepa curves and murdered out....Satan's wagon:

http://i.imgur.com/0eQxuGw.png

[meme405]

I agree. Never thought I'd fall for a Cadillac but this car has presence. Canepa curves and murdered out....Satan's wagon:

http://i.imgur.com/0eQxuGw.png

^the factory car isn't nearly as handsome:

http://zombdrive.com/images/2014-cadillac-ctsv-wagon-4.jpg

Still an epic ride, and still looks good, but just figured that all that work and parts will put it over the $50k threshold.

ALSO:

http://www.egarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Canepa-CTS-V-wagon3.jpg

Blue looks better. *Biased*

[dared3vil0]

I'm partial to the coupes... :megusta:


http://chivz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pic41238537-2011-cadillac-cts-v-coupe.jpg

[jpark]

I agree. Never thought I'd fall for a Cadillac but this car has presence. Canepa curves and murdered out....Satan's wagon:

http://i.imgur.com/0eQxuGw.png

:sweetjesus:

[GS8]

Good luck with that

Last time a Wagon was for sale was earlier this year. Sold for $64,000 and had 60k on it.

[Gucci Mane]

^the factory car isn't nearly as handsome:

http://zombdrive.com/images/2014-cadillac-ctsv-wagon-4.jpg

Still an epic ride, and still looks good, but just figured that all that work and parts will put it over the $50k threshold.

ALSO:

http://www.egarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Canepa-CTS-V-wagon3.jpg

Blue looks better. *Biased*

They look just fine stock in all black IMO. Such a sexy wagon.

http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2011/08/2011-cadillac-CTS-V-sport-wagon-promo.jpg

[whiteTDIpowa]

CLA 45 AMG is right around that price range.

Ya i was considering a GLA 45 AMG...but new they are close to 70 with tax. Can't seem to find any used GLA 45 AMG anywhere, plus I want the AMG bucket seats, which are harder to come across also.

[twitchyzero]

hmm i usually really like the looks of wagons but the CTS-V looks too SUV-like stock or modified...may be it's the shorter wheel base or just the angle of the photos...needs to be more hearse-like



excuse me while i timpo
http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/retro12_SE01_0.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk124/Vigo327/volvo-v70r-02_zpscd4cba53.jpg
http://www.beyond.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014-e63s-amg-wagon-review-8.jpg
http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/alpina-b5-touring.jpg

[is350]

^ the back of the 5 series wagon looks so awkward, and we don't have the 5 series wagon here in Canada.

[One Punch Man]

2016 Lexus IS is not a bad choice as it has AWD, not sure about how "sporty" it is though. The Infiniti Q50 ain't bad of a choice either. Or if you're willing to dish out a few thousand more, Range Rover Evoque can bring you up those mountains nicely :^)

[thumper]

ugh i get to be devil's advocate... i've driven two out of the three listed above. the IS is not sporty in 2wd so i do not have high expectations for the awd version. the q50 feels disconnected, especially that weird electronic steering. i've never been in a evoque, but the reviews say it's more eye candy than anything else :(

[thumper]

must keep this thread alive... it's not a 2016, but i think it qualifies well for awd and a v8 :)

https://youtu.be/Wtnvpgdfq9c

https://youtu.be/WkxOj8v3MXo

[Poor Arts]

doesnt the EVO final edition come without the recaros? :heckno:

The EVO final edition in Canada does come with the recaros. The question is if OP doesn't mind driving manual on the snow since the final edition is based on the GSR model.

[ken24]

I own a 15 Q50 and i feel a lot of people have a misunderstanding about this car. The DAS steering is only if you get the tech package. I drove a Q50 with nav+tech and one with just nav and it's completely different.

I ended up picking up the one with just nav, i was upgrading from a g37 and the steering feel without the tech package feel ALMOST the same as the g37.

Without the tech package you lose a lot of the convenience stuff, memory seats...,lane change assist, blind spot warning and a few different notification options on the gauge.

I paid cash and all in to drive off the lot it was only 39-38k. For what i'm getting i was pretty happy. I did test drive a lot of cars in the high 20s and mid 30s price range just to see if i was missing anything by going back to infiniti, but in the end i was happy i did.

I live in Edmonton so i'm not sure if it makes a difference, but talking to lexus and bmw dealers the cheapest is250 was almost 44k and a bmw 328i was touching 50k.

[NKC ONE]

Under $50k no brainer for me. Focus RS

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2017-Ford-Focus-RS-02-876x535.jpg
http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/2016-ford-focus-rs-inline3-photo-657709-s-original.jpg
http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2017-Ford-Focus-RS-096-876x535.jpg