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Brace Yourself for MORE Bike Lanes!!
melloman
12-11-2015, 08:09 AM
Vancouver City Council approves plan for 12 new bike lanes
More bike lanes are coming to the streets of Vancouver after a five-year bike lane expansion plan was approved by Vancouver City Council Thursday.
The plan calls for the addition of eight new bike lane routes in downtown Vancouver, including Stanley Park’s Park Drive, Bute Street, Burnaby-Drake streets, Smithe-Nelson streets, Cambie Street, West Waterfront Road within Port Metro Vancouver’s jurisdiction, Water-Alexander-Powell streets through Gastown (also known as the “Portside Greenway”), and the Granville Street Bridge.
Four other routes are planned outside of the downtown peninsula on Gore Street, Hudson Street, Kent Street, and Commercial Drive.
Some of downtown’s roads could see street parking space losses of between 25 to 50 per cent. Further public consultation and approvals are required before changes can be made.
Council also approved plans to improve a number of existing bike land routes and start a one-year pilot project to allow skateboarders use bike lane infrastructure. The move to allow skateboarders to use bike lanes not only promotes safety but also increases the utility of the bike lanes, which experience dips in ridership during the wet and cold winter months.
The City claims there has been a 16 per cent increase in bike trips this year over 2014. It is aiming to have at least half of all trips be made by cycling or public transit by 2020.
In addition to the discussions on bike lanes, Council discussed and gave final approval for the B.C. Passenger Board’s decision to grant Vancouver’s four taxi companies a combined total of 58 temporary taxi licenses for the holidays. The license for extra cabs ends on January 7.
Map of the 5-year plan to expand cycling infrastructure in Vancouver (click to enlarge):
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/vancouver-bike-lane-map-2020.jpg
For fucks sake.. Is it not bad enough? With the viaducts being torn down, and now less roadway and more congestion, it solidifies that I will not enter the downtown core in 5 years with a car. :facepalm:
Bolded are 2 main arteries into downtown that will get COMPLETELY fucked once this goes through, and then Commercial Drive... :fulloffuck: On the news yesterday they interviewed some business' and the owners are pissed. Having 2 bike routes going South/North (1-2 block East and 1-3 blocks West) and tons going East/West, it will be good game for cars on Commercial Drive aswell. (As if it wasn't bad enough to try to park anywhere near a restuarant there)
Galactic_Phantom
12-11-2015, 08:28 AM
Anyone here living in COV actually voted for this fucktard? :facepalm:
BoostedBB6
12-11-2015, 08:29 AM
and people wonder why I dont live in Van anymore.....
Hondaracer
12-11-2015, 08:39 AM
The commercial drive ones are fucking stupid. There is almost no parking for residents around comercial let alone business patrons. I almost always have to park a block or two in on the "resident only" parking when I'm down there, regardless of the time of day, and now you want to take away even more parking?
Bike lanes are fucking empty.
DHP 1
12-11-2015, 08:47 AM
WTF? more bike lames?
jesus christ vancouver rains 24/6, how many more of this useless lanes do we need while wasting our taxes
I ride most work days and I find this fucking atrocious. Vancouver really fucking hates motorists. Like, there's only so much road, and then they try and pack the lanes even more with bus lanes, bike lanes and car lanes all into one. WTF.
Mr.HappySilp
12-11-2015, 09:08 AM
haven't dine in DT for over a year (expect sept for a friend wedding), haven't shop in DT for a few years and this trend will continue. There are better restaurant/shopping area with more parking space.
pastarocket
12-11-2015, 09:56 AM
Anyone here living in COV actually voted for this fucktard? :facepalm:
Hello, no. I didn't vote for bike boy for the past two civic elections.
willystyle
12-11-2015, 10:27 AM
.....WTF!
EmperorIS
12-11-2015, 10:31 AM
No money for Translink but more bike lanes.
Makes sense.
6o4__boi
12-11-2015, 10:34 AM
hahaha
another reason i'm glad i left Vancouver...soon there'll be like no cars allowed downtown during certain hours
whatever happened to multi?
jackmeister
12-11-2015, 11:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBvvDhEeetc
jackmeister
12-11-2015, 11:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBvvDhEeetc
well.. maybe after they find that many cyclists in Vancouver first
dat_steve
12-11-2015, 12:23 PM
Revscene on bike lanes
https://media.giphy.com/media/Gyb2z5VlDUQqk/giphy.gif
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/61787759.jpg
commercial drive bike lanes
http://i.imgur.com/MmZfSIH.jpg
Traum
12-11-2015, 01:10 PM
I see what the OP has done here -- took the article right out of RS's favourite news source -- Vancity Buzz (http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/12/vancouver-city-council-approves-plan-for-12-new-bike-lanes/). :troll:
And fxxk this... I better go to all my fav Commercial Drive restaurants while I still can -- before the fxxking bike lanes completely fxxk the area up. Both pedestrian and vehicular traffic is already so packed there, and we are going to replace the fully utilized roads there with empty bike lanes.
Perfect. :facepalm:
JaPoola
12-11-2015, 01:59 PM
Looks like pretty soon everyone will have to invest in a bike rack for the car. Pack the bike up, drive to a parking lot close to wherever you want to go, park the car, and ride the bike to the destination.
TypeRNammer
12-11-2015, 04:08 PM
Damn, transit operators are going to be pissed about Commercial Drive. It's already tight enough driving an articulated bus through that area anyways!
Hot Karl
12-11-2015, 04:37 PM
the skateboarders thing made me laugh. skateboard traffic. really?
are they counting the unicyclers too? anything to up your fucking numbers?
i don't know a single person who bikes to work.
Mining
12-11-2015, 04:54 PM
allow skateboarders use bike lane infrastructure. The move to allow skateboarders to use bike lanes not only promotes safety but also increases the utility of the bike lanes, which experience dips in ridership during the wet and cold winter months.
HAHAHAHA LOOL
kids are gonna die out there
only consolation are hipsters that are talking on their phone and j-walking without looking expecting cars to stop will now have bikers in the bike lane crashing in to them :troll:
hotjoint
12-11-2015, 08:51 PM
Damn, transit operators are going to be pissed about Commercial Drive. It's already tight enough driving an articulated bus through that area anyways!
I hate the god damn cyclists already when I'm doing the #20. Now they want to have more of them on there? Good luck to whoever is stuck with the #20 once this goes into effect because I know that I'm not going to be stuck with that shitshow!
StylinRed
12-11-2015, 09:01 PM
The only real irks I have about the bike lanes are
1) no right turns in DT for us drivers -_-
2) no one uses them... including cyclists
Tone Loc
12-12-2015, 11:43 AM
What a fucking waste of taxpayer money. Yes, let's spend all this money, effort and time working on a mode of transport that is only really viable for 5 months out of the year. Not to mention it will make the downtown traffic worse than it is now, which IMO is hard to believe. So happy I don't work downtown and go very rarely. And when I move out I am definitely not going to live in Vancouver at this rate that Bike Boy is ruining the city.
Nobody with a respectable job wants to come into work, soaked from the rain and smelly from sweat... whereas, the majority of people would be better served if that money was spent on public transit which (ideally) works efficiently 365 days out of the year.
Traum
12-12-2015, 12:56 PM
I understand that this is strictly a Vancouver solution (as in, from City of Vancouver for City of Vancouver alone), but instead of blowing all this money away, it would have been far better to earmark all that costs and pledge it towards a regional (ie. Metro Vancouver-wide) fund that aims to resolve the region-wide public transit funding shortage that Translink always claims to have.
Financially, this is a much smarter solution since:
1) the city is not wasting money on a non-solution that only works for a small number of people (ie. cycylists), and is completely unviable for a solid 6+ months in a year.
2) until other municipalities cough up the same funds, CoV doesn't actually have to spend anything, so they can still take advantage of having that money sitting around to do whatever
Politically, it is also a good plan because:
3) it gives the illusion to Vancouver residents that the City is doing something to address the traffic problem
4) it puts pressure on other municipalities to come up with a matching program to address the region-wide traffic problem
Man... I should go run for mayor next time around (and count on RS as my think tank). :fuckyea:
TypeRNammer
12-12-2015, 01:51 PM
I hate the god damn cyclists already when I'm doing the #20. Now they want to have more of them on there? Good luck to whoever is stuck with the #20 once this goes into effect because I know that I'm not going to be stuck with that shitshow!
Instead of kissing the center lane, gonna kiss the bike lane if I'm driving an articulated bus down Commercial Drive. :troll:
Traum
12-15-2015, 02:33 PM
Good to see that understandably, the Commercial Drive business community is pissed about the bike lane arrangements.
Commercial Drive business group angry with city hall over bike lane consultation process - NEWS 1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2015/12/15/commercial-drive-bike-lane/)
...
Pogor says there is concern about parking and accessibility.
“Our membership… could potentially see a very negative effect.”
He believes nearly 750 business and property owners along Commercial Drive have been failed by city hall, calling it disturbing to see the process go ahead with little input.
...
With all these business owners upset over the bike lanes arrangement, I wonder if the plan will still go through? Additionally, as the business owners are saying, there are already parallel bike routes running on both sides of the Drive. It makes little sense to force another bike route down Commercial Drive itself.
Dragon-88
12-15-2015, 02:47 PM
There is no parking around Commercial drive, no lots and residential parking only.. I have no clue where they thought bikes lane were appropriate. I dont see why they dont just create residential bike routes in the neighbourhoods instead of the main roads. I mean you dont need a physical lane, just direct the bike traffic one block east or west of the main roadways.
In fact its typically faster to ride/drive a side road vs. main roads. Hell when I ride my Grom, I take Adanac(residential bike router) all the way from N.BBY to Downtown(Venables/Georgia Viaduct) and get there within 10-15 minutes during rush hour.
The issue is that they didn't think at all. It's another case of Gregor just throwing shit against a wall and then pushing it through.
Traum
12-15-2015, 03:15 PM
I dont see why they dont just create residential bike routes in the neighbourhoods instead of the main roads. I mean you dont need a physical lane, just direct the bike traffic one block east or west of the main roadways.
There are already 2 bike routes parallel to Commercial. Woodland Dr. is 2 blocks west of Commercial, and Lakewood Dr is 3 blocks east of Commercial.
Yeah, Mr. Bike Boy. We really need THREE fxxking bike lanes in that vicinity. :banghead:
waiting for the #1 to have it's own bike lane :troll:
Mr.HappySilp
12-16-2015, 08:29 AM
waiting for the #1 to have it's own bike lane :troll:
Waiting to have all roads, streets, aves, highways to have bike lanes on them. Yes even every single one will need a bike lane.
EVERYBODY GETS ONE!
http://1vze7o2h8a2b2tyahl3i0t68.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/oprah-350x167.jpg
6o4__boi
12-16-2015, 10:31 AM
logic? actual city planning? common sense?
City Hall does not dabble in all that non-sense.
Speed2K
05-18-2017, 09:44 AM
More bike lanes on 10th ave between Oak and Cambie, and changing it to a one-way street. The traffic around VGH is bad enough as is, soon it will get worse!
http://www.news1130.com/2017/05/17/vancouver-approves-removing-parking-metres-installing-bike-lanes-outside-vgh/ (http://www.theprovince.com/news/local+news/city+vancouver+approves+plan+bike+lanes+front/13376987/story.html)
Vancouver city councillors have approved a plan to install protected bike lanes on 10th Avenue, part of a drive to ease congestion in the health precinct between Oak and Cambie street. Construction is scheduled for this fall and winter.
The proposal had come under fire, as some councillors said converting the busy, but narrow, route to a one-way street for westbound vehicles, to make room for raised bike lanes on either side, “prioritizes the bikes over everything else.”
Councillors opposed to the motion argued it gave too much consideration to commuting cyclists in an area where the primary goal should be access to Vancouver General Hospital and nearby health institutions. The corridor also needs to accommodate ambulances, taxis, HandyDarts and pedestrians.
Some believed the bike lanes would simply lead to more congestion.
Non-Partisan Association Councillor Elizabeth Ball argued in November that “the addition of a dedicated bicycle route would increase traffic along this route and therefore increase the risk for collisions with pedestrians, especially those who are disoriented or mobility-impaired.”
Supporters of the plan, approved Wednesday by a 8-2 margin, argued the changes were not simply for cyclists, but “the best possible for all of the users and perfect for none,” according to councillor Heather Deal.
City staff, according to their report, refined their initial design after consulting Vancouver Coastal Health and Vancouver General Hospital, among other health providers. The changes also took into account concerns raised by the city’s seniors’ advisory committee, persons with disabilities advisory committee and active transportation policy council.
The 10th Avenue corridor has become very crowded in recent years. In addition to the developing health precinct, which councillors suggested was becoming more of a “health campus,” Vancouver’s growing cycling community tends to prefer 10th Avenue over bike lanes on 7th and 14th Avenue for getting across town. It has fewer hills, as Mayor Gregor Robertson, an avid cyclist, noted during the debate.
10th Avenue has become the second busiest local street for cyclists in the city, according to the report. As a result of this and other growth in the area, “over recent years, the experience for all users of 10th Avenue has declined as the street has gotten busier with more people walking, cycling, and driving in the area.”
As part of the plan, the city intends to make improvements to cycling routes on 14th and 7th avenues “to allow people reasonable alternatives to more easily bypass the health precinct.
Dragon-88
05-18-2017, 10:02 AM
I had a buddy riding a Grom DT one day.. A cop was following him, honked at him and told him to ride in the bike lane. He was a little confused as to why he was told that, so he did and rode the bike lane. Later he found out his license place rattled off and was missing. Cop thought he was on a ebike.. LOL
6o4__boi
05-18-2017, 10:08 AM
Always amazing how fast they decide and start construction when it comes to bike lanes.
:fuckthatshit:
Badhobz
05-18-2017, 01:27 PM
Fuck this Robertson idiot. Why is he and his cycling douchebags still in power? what he needs is a stinking demonstration at city hall to force his stupid fucking ass to step down.. fuck this motherfucker!!!!
All the fucking taxes paid by my parents and wife's parents all go towards empty bike lanes and the worst road conditions of all the cities. Richmond roads are heavenly compared to vancouvers pothole ridden bullshit.
CivicBlues
05-18-2017, 01:39 PM
How is he still in power? People don't fucking vote. 44% turnout in 2014. A dismal 34% in 2011. The ones that do show up to vote love bike lanes and other hippy dippy shit, keep voting him in over and over again.
Don't forget the next municipal election is in 2018, but then I've lost faith in the electorate.
inv4zn
05-18-2017, 01:53 PM
The 10th Avenue corridor has become very crowded in recent years. In addition to the developing health precinct, which councillors suggested was becoming more of a “health campus,” Vancouver’s growing cycling community tends to prefer 10th Avenue over bike lanes on 7th and 14th Avenue for getting across town. It has fewer hills, as Mayor Gregor Robertson, an avid cyclist, noted during the debate.
What the fuck. Don't ride a bike if you don't want to pedal up hills, fuck.
Sorry guy, your grandpa died en-route to Hospital because the cyclists didn't want to pedal up a hill. Fuck.
Rallydrv
05-18-2017, 02:08 PM
What! No bike lane on Hwy 1?!
The bike corridor along 10th avenue is a major east/west path and one of the longest running ones we have. It starts from Victoria/10th (Kensington-Cedar College) and goes all the way to Trafalgar/10th (Arbutus Ridge). If there's a bike path that needs a bike lane then it'd be that route.
604STIG
05-18-2017, 02:49 PM
cycling community tends to prefer 10th Avenue over bike lanes on 7th and 14th Avenue for getting across town. It has fewer hills, as Mayor Gregor Robertson, an avid cyclist, noted during the debate.
:fulloffuck::fulloffuck::fulloffuck:Then why did bike lanes go in on 7th and 14th ave to begin with?:fulloffuck::fulloffuck::fulloffuck:
ziggyx
05-18-2017, 03:12 PM
^ Hopefully they were thinking "If they want their bike lanes, we'll give them their bike lanes. Which routes has the most hills?" :troll:
But it's most likely because they considered the fact that 10th is a busy street so they took the next best option which was 7th and 14th.
:fulloffuck::fulloffuck::fulloffuck:Then why did bike lanes go in on 7th and 14th ave to begin with?:fulloffuck::fulloffuck::fulloffuck:
cuz they be like:
http://cdn.niketalk.com/5/5c/500x313px-LL-5c319fc1_68747470733a2f2f73332e616d617a6f6e6177732 e636f6d2f72617067656e6975732f313336333132363435325 f7461636f2d6769726c2d6d656d652d67656e657261746f722 d7768792d6e6f742d626f74682d3665633030622e6a7067.jp eg
seriously though ... was disappointed when LaPointe lost last election :okay:
TypeRNammer
05-18-2017, 05:40 PM
So if mayor moon beam gets voted out, are the viaducts still coming down?
Traum
05-18-2017, 05:47 PM
When I run for mayor, I'm gonna campaign on fxxking ripping out **ALL** the bike lanes and reinstate the Molson Indy Street Circuit for public use every goddamned day of the week.
:fuckyea:
Inaii
05-18-2017, 05:57 PM
I'd vote for you Traum
ae101
05-18-2017, 07:23 PM
Seriously ppl complain and shit, but when it comes to voting time they don't go and vote
Seriously fuck man, if u want change u have to go out and do something about.........u know like vote, u cant expect the mayor to go in to self reflection right
Manic!
05-18-2017, 07:30 PM
When I run for mayor, I'm gonna campaign on fxxking ripping out **ALL** the bike lanes and reinstate the Molson Indy Street Circuit for public use every goddamned day of the week.
:fuckyea:
Do it!
Gnomes
05-18-2017, 07:36 PM
Truam. 2018.
6o4__boi
05-18-2017, 09:45 PM
When I run for mayor, I'm gonna campaign on fxxking ripping out **ALL** the bike lanes and reinstate the Molson Indy Street Circuit for public use every goddamned day of the week.
:fuckyea:
I will campaign for you for free.
Hell i'd throw in my 14 dolla to the slosh fund, er, campaign money.
Mr.HappySilp
05-19-2017, 04:02 AM
Currently in Tokyo now and people still uses bike. They park their bike near a train station. However the difference is that the cyclists in Tokyo have skills and obey the traffic law. In fact they are more careful than cars and pestrains. Buy cyclists in Vancouver have zero skills and doesn't obey the traffic laws. When you tell them they always hit you coz they didn't stop they give you the middle finger. That's the difference.
You guys should check out bike sharing in China. Pick up bike with app, leave the bike wherever there is bike parking. If they had that in DT i'd definitely use the bike lanes a lot more. Bike usage has exponentially grew ever since the companies started pushing aggressively into the city, and to be honest I've been loving it. It's perfect for those short trips that's too far to walk but too short to drive.
68style
05-22-2017, 05:14 AM
Yah it's great....... in places where it doesn't rain 70% of the time.
minoru_tanaka
05-22-2017, 05:30 AM
Yah it's great....... in places where it doesn't rain 70% of the time.
I know the solution to that......
Covered bike lanes!!
!e.lo_
05-22-2017, 07:17 AM
You guys should check out bike sharing in China. Pick up bike with app, leave the bike wherever there is bike parking. If they had that in DT i'd definitely use the bike lanes a lot more. Bike usage has exponentially grew ever since the companies started pushing aggressively into the city, and to be honest I've been loving it. It's perfect for those short trips that's too far to walk but too short to drive.
uh you mean this?
https://www.mobibikes.ca
320icar
05-22-2017, 07:33 AM
You guys should check out bike sharing in China. Pick up bike with app, leave the bike wherever there is bike parking. If they had that in DT i'd definitely use the bike lanes a lot more. Bike usage has exponentially grew ever since the companies started pushing aggressively into the city, and to be honest I've been loving it. It's perfect for those short trips that's too far to walk but too short to drive.
They DO have that in the GVA and it usually fails. Not only due to our 1 month of sun a year but the rich mentality of not wanting to rent lol. It's a bike. You can get on for $50 on Craigslist
ae101
05-22-2017, 06:51 PM
You guys should check out bike sharing in China. Pick up bike with app, leave the bike wherever there is bike parking. If they had that in DT i'd definitely use the bike lanes a lot more. Bike usage has exponentially grew ever since the companies started pushing aggressively into the city, and to be honest I've been loving it. It's perfect for those short trips that's too far to walk but too short to drive.
Guess u forgot to mention all the bikes ppl lay around cuz i see a shit load ppl leave and lock them up randomly on the sidewalk all tipped over
Plus the fact no one comes and collect broken bikes when there broken (i have yet seem them, so not too sure when they collect them), i have seen a shit load of broken share bikes in packs on the ground which no one picks up and that totally just blocks the sidewalk
jmvdesign
05-22-2017, 07:16 PM
Guess u forgot to mention all the bikes ppl lay around cuz i see a shit load ppl leave and lock them up randomly on the sidewalk all tipped over
Plus the fact no one comes and collect broken bikes when there broken (i have yet seem them, so not too sure when they collect them), i have seen a shit load of broken share bikes in packs on the ground which no one picks up and that totally just blocks the sidewalk
He's talking about bike share programs like in Montreal BIXI which require credit cards and a deposit to borrow bikes. There are penalties if you don't return them on time. I'm sure people will be much more responsible with their bike share usage if their credit cards are on the hook.
https://www.bixi.com/en/how-it-works
Mr.HappySilp
05-22-2017, 09:58 PM
You guys should check out bike sharing in China. Pick up bike with app, leave the bike wherever there is bike parking. If they had that in DT i'd definitely use the bike lanes a lot more. Bike usage has exponentially grew ever since the companies started pushing aggressively into the city, and to be honest I've been loving it. It's perfect for those short trips that's too far to walk but too short to drive.
Guess u forgot to mention all the bikes ppl lay around cuz i see a shit load ppl leave and lock them up randomly on the sidewalk all tipped over
Plus the fact no one comes and collect broken bikes when there broken (i have yet seem them, so not too sure when they collect them), i have seen a shit load of broken share bikes in packs on the ground which no one picks up and that totally just blocks the sidewalk
He's talking about bike share programs like in Montreal BIXI which require credit cards and a deposit to borrow bikes. There are penalties if you don't return them on time. I'm sure people will be much more responsible with their bike share usage if their credit cards are on the hook.
https://www.bixi.com/en/how-it-works
Before
https://youtu.be/Hi9G1jLUeUk
After
https://youtu.be/kdsb2wwn-7g
won't work in Van seeing the cost of bikes in china is like what 50RMB or less while a bike in Van is at least $50CAD. That's a huge difference. Also in China (Beijing) is mostly sunny/cloudy so no rain. Is also super cheap to rent them in China (like $1RMB for 30mins which is around 20 cents CAD). Not to mention I can just leave them on the street anywhere unlike in Van where people have to lock them up in bike station.
whitev70r
08-01-2018, 08:32 PM
Don't particularly like Wai Young but she kinda has a point here. Probably one of the WORST places in the city to put a bike lane!
https://youtu.be/FvLTw5AzAEQ
When Young arrived, she couldn’t have arranged the backdrop better herself for her message that “healthy cyclists” were being given precedence over frail patients needing to access the emergency department at VGH: An ambulance backed in beside Young to attend to a call at a nearby apartment building, and the paramedics weren’t able to pull up to the curb because of the bike lane.
“They’re giving healthy cyclists the right of way when the vulnerable and the sick need to cross the road,” she said, as the paramedics prepared a stretcher.
twitchyzero
08-02-2018, 12:55 AM
doesn't emergency vehicle have the right of way over everything?
I think flashing lights and responders pulling out a stretcher sends a clear message to the cyclist: please yield
any reasons why they're unloading on the street when VGH has a driveway right in front of the urgent care entrance?
and I haven't seen a cross-walk that suggested for peds to yield to cyclist, it's always the other way around
Mr.HappySilp
08-02-2018, 07:28 AM
doesn't emergency vehicle have the right of way over everything?
I think flashing lights and responders pulling out a stretcher sends a clear message to the cyclist: please yield
any reasons why they're unloading on the street when VGH has a driveway right in front of the urgent care entrance?
and I haven't seen a cross-walk that suggested for peds to yield to cyclist, it's always the other way around
Sure that's the law states but how many cyclist ACTUALLY OBEY THE LAW. In fact if you pointed out to them that they are not obeying the traffic law 9/10 of them will just give you the middle finger and swear right back at you.
I experience many many times where cyclist just blow pass a red or even when the crosswalk sign is on they just blow right through it. In most case I will just walk up to the corsswalk if they do hit me you can bet I am going to sue their ass.
how many drivers
-make a full stop at every stop sign
-never touch their phones while driving
-always stay under the speed limit
-always use their turn signals
-never try to run a yellow
Mr.HappySilp
08-02-2018, 09:25 AM
how many drivers
-make a full stop at every stop sign
-never touch their phones while driving
-always stay under the speed limit
-always use their turn signals
-never try to run a yellow
How many cyclist actually have insurance so when they cause an accident you can actually make a claim against them?
How many cyclist VS drivers would just ran off after they cause an accident?
How many cyclist VS drivers would just ran off after they cause an accident?
many drivers do the same thing. i'm just pointing out the similarities.
Mr.HappySilp
08-02-2018, 09:36 AM
many drivers do the same thing. i'm just pointing out the similarities.
Chances are having a driving running away is very low when compare to when a cyclist. Coz when a driver run away from an accident someone would have caught their license plate. With a cyclist they can just ride away and there is really no way to track them coz they actually don't have a license plate.
DHP 1
08-02-2018, 09:45 AM
i dont get it, why do they keep wasting taxes payers money installing these bike lanes when....Vancouver rains 10 months thru out the year. I never see any cyclists during the winter, its just not practical at all. hell, i dont blame them, no one wonna reek like a wet dog entering the office and having to bring an extra set of clothes just to change.
:suspicious:
whitev70r
08-02-2018, 09:48 AM
^ lots of people bring a change of clothing and have access to showers at their office.
As a cyclist and rider, I for one think there is enough bike lanes. It's getting a bit overboard. We already have bike lanes, routes, and paths that can take you anywhere you can possibly want to go in the city.
lilaznviper
08-02-2018, 01:39 PM
but people taking the bike routes is really low. There is usually a bike route parallel to a big street but they won't take it and just cause headaches for the drivers.
Hate it when cyclist take the knight bridge on the road and there is a sign telling them to take the sidewalk and yield to pedestrians
jackmeister
08-02-2018, 02:06 PM
you know what would be a good solution?
-remove the bike lanes outside the hospital
-remove some of the permanent barriers and replace with temporary ones so when the usage is low they can be converted back to car lanes (outside of summer)
something as insignificant as bike lanes is an election issue.. fml
Hate it when cyclist take the knight bridge on the road and there is a sign telling them to take the sidewalk and yield to pedestrians
ive seen a bike on a major bridge deck once in my life, on the patullo. he was an idiot. it's pretty rare and unusual to see something like that, not the norm by any stretch.
320icar
08-02-2018, 03:49 PM
how many drivers
-make a full stop at every stop sign
-never touch their phones while driving
-always stay under the speed limit
-always use their turn signals
-never try to run a yellow
Damn, I got 4/5. Dat speed limit one doe
320icar
08-02-2018, 03:52 PM
Also, we need more bike lanes in Richmond. Not like full on green painted car width lanes, but just that extra bit of “shoulder” before the sidewalk. We have nice cycle routes around the perimeter, but sometimes you actually want to ride somewhere and not just to Steveston.
I’ll proudly say I ride my bike on the sidewalk. Born and raised in richmond, you’ll never see me ride my bike on 3 road or 2 road or Steveston hwy etc
Bouncing Bettys
08-02-2018, 04:19 PM
how many drivers
-make a full stop at every stop sign
-never touch their phones while driving
-always stay under the speed limit
-always use their turn signals
-never try to run a yellow
I'm sure there are a number of drivers who can check all or most of those boxes, while oblivious that they are inconsiderate and dangerous to other motorists. - left hand lane hogs, cutting off other drivers, unsafe late left turns, etc.
Speed2K
08-02-2018, 04:34 PM
The bike lanes in front of the hospital is pretty ridiculous. There are also many medical offices around that area, it was hard enough to reach them as is.
whitev70r
08-02-2018, 06:00 PM
Also, we need more bike lanes in Richmond. Not like full on green painted car width lanes, but just that extra bit of “shoulder” before the sidewalk. We have nice cycle routes around the perimeter, but sometimes you actually want to ride somewhere and not just to Steveston.
I’ll proudly say I ride my bike on the sidewalk. Born and raised in richmond, you’ll never see me ride my bike on 3 road or 2 road or Steveston hwy etc
Garden City, Williams, Railway, Granville are not bad cycle routes with designated bike lane. That should be enough to go North/South, West/East take you anywhere in Richmond. I mean c'mon, Richmond is not that big and it is pretty flat.
Having said that, riding in Richmond, especially on weekends, ... make sure your life insurance is up to date and that you kiss your SO before you head off! There is a segment on Strava labelled 'Don't get blindsided by Costco-bound cars'. There should be another one called, 'Don't get hit by Walmart-bound cars' on Garden City northbound near that new retail mall.
TOPEC
08-02-2018, 09:25 PM
Sure that's the law states but how many cyclist ACTUALLY OBEY THE LAW. In fact if you pointed out to them that they are not obeying the traffic law 9/10 of them will just give you the middle finger and swear right back at you.
I experience many many times where cyclist just blow pass a red or even when the crosswalk sign is on they just blow right through it. In most case I will just walk up to the corsswalk if they do hit me you can bet I am going to sue their ass.
fuck cyclists who dont obey the rules, i hope they crash n burn. recently at a 3 way stop intersection, as im making my left turn, a cyclist blows past his stop sign and stops next to my car with his arms up in giving me a wtf. i told his he has a fking stop sign and he needs to stop, of course he rides away
winson604
08-03-2018, 06:44 AM
^ lots of people bring a change of clothing and have access to showers at their office.
As a cyclist and rider, I for one think there is enough bike lanes. It's getting a bit overboard. We already have bike lanes, routes, and paths that can take you anywhere you can possibly want to go in the city.
Lots do have access to showers but in the grand scheme of things I bet it's still only like 5-10% of people have access to showers. I would never feel comfortable after sweating to just change clothes but not shower but that's just me, people do it all the time since they have no choice.
As a driver who does not do bike nor transit I have no issues with bike lanes itself but what I've been pissed about is the total lack of disregard in the implementation of the lanes themselves. A decision is made to put in a bike lane, regardless of how many people complain it's been decided, and then ground breaks like almost instantly. Where as there are other pressing issues with road repair related stuff in certain areas of the City which uses the same crews and have been issues for days/weeks/years that just sit there and wait.
twitchyzero
08-03-2018, 01:17 PM
I give myself 15 minutes to change and cool-off...my routes are usually only 5 or 10 miles each way though and the uphills are on the way home
but yes I think our current cycling infrastructure at least in Vancouver, Burnaby and Coquitlam are perfectly adequate
ilovebacon
08-04-2018, 12:31 AM
Also, we need more bike lanes in Richmond. Not like full on green painted car width lanes, but just that extra bit of “shoulder” before the sidewalk. We have nice cycle routes around the perimeter, but sometimes you actually want to ride somewhere and not just to Steveston.
I’ll proudly say I ride my bike on the sidewalk. Born and raised in richmond, you’ll never see me ride my bike on 3 road or 2 road or Steveston hwy etc
bike lanes with all the clais.. lol
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