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: Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women


Sid Vicious
01-05-2016, 01:43 PM
The mayor of Cologne has summoned police for crisis talks after about 80 women reported sexual assaults and muggings by men on New Year's Eve.
The scale of the attacks on women at the city's central railway station has shocked Germany. About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved.
City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said.
Women were also targeted in Hamburg.
But the Cologne assaults - near the city's iconic cathedral - were the most serious, German media report. At least one woman was raped, and many were groped.
Most of the crimes reported to police were robberies. A volunteer policewoman was among those sexually molested.
Germany's New Year shock - by Damien McGuinness, BBC News Berlin

The attacks took place close to Cologne Cathedral as fireworks exploded celebrating the new year
The pretty Christmas market and medieval setting may look idyllic, but at Christmas and New Year the area around Cologne Cathedral is a notorious danger zone when it comes to pickpockets and theft.
Now the sexual harassment, and in one case rape, of dozens of women has shocked Germany.
What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
Police in Hamburg are now reporting similar incidents on New Year's Eve in the party area of St Pauli. One politician says this is just the tip of the iceberg.
And there are real concerns about what will happen in February when the drunken street-parties of carnival season kick off.
Cologne will stage carnival events in February, with hundreds of thousands of revellers expected in the streets, as on New Year's Eve.
The police chief said "the assailants' behaviour is a real concern for me, also because of the carnival".
Police were deployed outside the central station because of the crowds on New Year's Eve, but failed to spot the many attacks, according to reports. There are also fears that a number of women did not report assaults.

'Monstrous' assaults
Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker said the attacks were "monstrous". "We cannot allow this to become a lawless area," she said, insisting that visitors could not come to the city fearing attack.
German Justice Minister Heiko Maas tweeted that "we won't tolerate these abhorrent assaults on women - all those responsible must be brought to justice".
One man described how his partner and 15-year-old daughter were surrounded by an enormous crowd outside the station and he was unable to help. "The attackers grabbed her and my partner's breasts and groped them between their legs."
A British woman visiting Cologne said fireworks had been thrown at her group by men who spoke neither German nor English. "They were trying to hug us, kiss us. One man stole my friend's bag," she told the BBC. "Another tried to get us into his 'private taxi'. I've been in scary and even life-threatening situations and I've never experienced anything like that."
The justice minister warned against linking the crimes to the issue of migrants and refugees.

Germany saw a record influx of migrants in 2015, which provoked an intense debate on immigration and marches by the anti-Islam Pegida movement.
Mr Maas said "the law does not discriminate regarding a person's origin or passport. All are equal before the law".
Cologne news website Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger says the suspects were already known to police because of frequent pickpocketing in and around Cologne central station.

Wider problem
In Hamburg several women told police that gangs of men had molested and robbed them on New Year's Eve on the Reeperbahn - a street known for its boisterous night life.
Some similar attacks were reported in Stuttgart.
A policeman who was outside Cologne station during the New Year's Eve trouble told the city's Express news website that he had detained eight suspects. "They were all asylum seekers, carrying copies of their residence certificates," he said.
However, there was no official confirmation that asylum seekers had been involved in the violence. Commentators in Germany were quick to urge people not to jump to conclusions.
German n-tv news says Cologne police are considering calling in reinforcements from other parts of Germany and installing extra surveillance cameras, with telescopic lenses.

Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046)

Mr.HappySilp
01-05-2016, 02:11 PM
Just wondering did they release are they citizen of German, other countries or refugee.

hchang
01-05-2016, 02:19 PM
Lol "tried to get us into his private taxi"

This is all probably inspired by fake taxi, public invasion, fake agent etc






:troll:

Hondaracer
01-05-2016, 03:47 PM
Dem refugees doe

StylinRed
01-05-2016, 04:30 PM
Just wondering did they release are they citizen of German, other countries or refugee.

they have no idea, just reports of crime, reports of the drunkards being intelligible, and reports that some looked african/arab

i imagine drunken acts of crime happen all the time in germany, but i find it odd that they're trying to orchestrate this as a gang of 1,000+ drunk arabs out to commit crime together and yet all you have are a few reports of gropings and one possible rape, across several cities/communities (that's not 1 organized gang), also no one's been apprehended officially

for something that's happened a week ago, you would think there would be a more concrete story, right now it just sounds like a story was thrown together without facts to stir shit up :crazy2:

AzNightmare
01-05-2016, 07:56 PM
OK, didn't know there was a city in Germany called "Cologne".

That was one confusing thread title when not read in the right context.

Razor Ramon HG
01-05-2016, 07:57 PM
they have no idea, just reports of crime, reports of the drunkards being intelligible, and reports that some looked african/arab

i imagine drunken acts of crime happen all the time in germany, but i find it odd that they're trying to orchestrate this as a gang of 1,000+ drunk arabs out to commit crime together and yet all you have are a few reports of gropings and one possible rape, across several cities/communities (that's not 1 organized gang), also no one's been apprehended officially

for something that's happened a week ago, you would think there would be a more concrete story, right now it just sounds like a story was thrown together without facts to stir shit up :crazy2:

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3zmahc/german_chancellor_merkel_disgust_at_new_year_gang/

One victim, 28 year old ‘Katja L’ spoke of her ordeal as she tried to make her way to the waiting room of Cologne railway station with two other girls and a boyfriend in the early hours of new year’s day. She told Der Express – one of the largest regional newspapers:

“When we came out of the station, we were very surprised by the group that met us there”. She said the group was “exclusively young foreign men”. Keeping close to her friends, they pressed on:

“We then walked through this group of men. There was an alley through [the men] which we walked through. Suddenly I felt a hand on my buttocks, then on my breasts, in the end, I was groped everywhere. It was a nightmare. Although we shouted and beat them, the guys did not stop. I was desperate and think I was touched around 100 times in the 200 meters.

“Fortunately I wore a jacket and trousers. a skirt would probably have been torn away from me”.

GLOW
01-06-2016, 06:52 AM
seen several stories from other german towns posted on social media but this is the first time i've seen it posted on a site i've actually heard of like BBC.

StylinRed
01-06-2016, 07:31 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3zmahc/german_chancellor_merkel_disgust_at_new_year_gang/

Yes, as i stated, lots of reports and accusations, but nothing official, in terms of apprehended suspects (the 1 report of suspects being apprehended wasn't an official release), videos (social media? it's hard to ignore gangs of arabs on new years eve and not have that filmed), etc.

But that's not the main issue, as i mentioned, i'm sure acts of drunken crime occurs a lot in Germany, especially during celebrations like this. But with the initial reports i heard, they seemed to cherry pick such crimes from across the country, several cities were used in those reports, from cologne, hamburg, stuttgart, etc all of which are several hours drive apart, and they grouped those incidents involving supposed arabs and portrayed them as 1 organized gang attack

Also did all the grouped reports of crime come with witness testimony describing arabs/refugees? or did i fall for how the story was strewn together?

call me :suspicious: but with all the anti-refugee/islam incidents coming out of europe/germany right now, the way this story was put together, with the lack of anything concrete initially, just seemed a bit HMMM to me

not saying it didn't happen, it probably did, but was it 1 large organized drunken crime spree?? pretty lame result no? or was it just your usual drunken ruffians/revelers and the news or certain groups thought they could use these events to best push a hot button topic?

Sid Vicious
01-06-2016, 08:15 AM
Yes, as i stated, lots of reports and accusations, but nothing official, in terms of apprehended suspects (the 1 report of suspects being apprehended wasn't an official release), videos (social media? it's hard to ignore gangs of arabs on new years eve and not have that filmed), etc.

But that's not the main issue, as i mentioned, i'm sure acts of drunken crime occurs a lot in Germany, especially during celebrations like this. But with the initial reports i heard, they seemed to cherry pick such crimes from across the country, several cities were used in those reports, from cologne, hamburg, stuttgart, etc all of which are several hours drive apart, and they grouped those incidents involving supposed arabs and portrayed them as 1 organized gang attack

Also did all the grouped reports of crime come with witness testimony describing arabs/refugees? or did i fall for how the story was strewn together?

call me :suspicious: but with all the anti-refugee/islam incidents coming out of europe/germany right now, the way this story was put together, with the lack of anything concrete initially, just seemed a bit HMMM to me

not saying it didn't happen, it probably did, but was it 1 large organized drunken crime spree?? pretty lame result no? or was it just your usual drunken ruffians/revelers and the news or certain groups thought they could use these events to best push a hot button topic?

lol what are you even trying to say? a buncha women getting groped and molested in one day is a lame result?

Cologne: Reports of New Year's assaults spark firestorm - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/europe/germany-cologne-new-year-assaults/index.html)

tons of cellphone footage apparently that the police are going through

StylinRed
01-06-2016, 08:47 AM
lol what are you even trying to say? a buncha women getting groped and molested in one day is a lame result?

Cologne: Reports of New Year's assaults spark firestorm - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/europe/germany-cologne-new-year-assaults/index.html)

tons of cellphone footage apparently that the police are going through

if it were a gang of over 1000 people out to commit crime, and not just sporadic crime from drunk revelers, then yeah that was a lame result

but as i said, i was basing it on what was initially reported, and there wasn't a lot of details, and for something that happened a week ago i expected more details, other than vague details... looks like we may start to get more info though, nothing yet


edit: new bbc article

German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere has strongly criticised police handling of gang attacks on women and girls in Cologne on New Year's Eve.
"The police shouldn't work like this," he said, as it emerged that three suspects had been identified.

More than 100 victims have complained of being sexually assaulted or robbed by gangs of up to 30 men, reportedly of Arab or North African appearance.
Officials say the violence should not cast suspicion against all refugees.

A crowd of about 1,000 men had gathered in the square outside Cologne station during New Year's Eve, letting off fireworks. Many were drunk and aggressive.

Police eventually evacuated the area because of the risk of injury from the fireworks.

But gangs of youths soon returned and carried out dozens of attacks over a number of hours with little apparent response from the local authorities until well after midnight

The "anti-Islamisation" Pegida movement and the right-wing AfD said the attacks were a consequence of large-scale migration. AfD leader Frauke Petry asked if, after the attacks, Germany was now sufficiently "diverse and cosmopolitan".

Mr de Maiziere emphasised there should not be any general suspicion towards refugees, at least "at this stage of the investigation".

"But if North Africans were the perpetrators, for which there is some indication, there should not be a taboo and people should not gloss over it."

Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker had earlier said it was "completely improper" to link the attackers "who appeared to come from North Africa" with refugees.

But she was herself mocked for urging young women and girls to adopt a code of conduct that meant keeping an "arm's length" distance from strangers and sticking with a group of people.

'New dimension'

North Rhine-Westphalia Interior Minister Ralf Jaeger told journalists on Wednesday that three suspects had been identified, although no arrests had been made.

He warned that anti-immigrant groups were trying to use the attacks to stir up hatred against refugees.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35241818

so there was a group of 1000+ men/people, whom were mostly drunk, celebrating new years and setting off fireworks at the square, but they were cleared out by police, later on groups of shit starting youths, numbering up to 30, showed up at the square and started shit... quite different from the early reports

Y2K_o__o
01-06-2016, 11:57 AM
"The men were of Arab or North African appearance"

don't know what to say about this statement but it seems like they want to cut back their "no legal limit to refugee numbers" during the refugee crisis.

GLOW
01-06-2016, 12:14 PM
so there was a group of 1000+ men/people, whom were mostly drunk, celebrating new years and setting off fireworks at the square, but they were cleared out by police, later on groups of shit starting youths, numbering up to 30, showed up at the square and started shit... quite different from the early reports

not sure if you meant it differently but reading your comment sounds like a total of 30...but i read the article as multiple groups, some of these groups numbered up to 30. so it was over 30...who knows the exact number, still sounds like a lot of young men of a specific description gathered together committing acts of robbery and sexual assault.

More than 100 victims have complained of being sexually assaulted or robbed by gangs of up to 30 men, reportedly of Arab or North African appearance.

now that mainstream news sites are reporting stuff like this it'll be interesting to see how authorities follow up on this.

StylinRed
01-06-2016, 12:58 PM
not sure if you meant it differently but reading your comment sounds like a total of 30...but i read the article as multiple groups, some of these groups numbered up to 30. so it was over 30...who knows the exact number, still sounds like a lot of young men of a specific description gathered together committing acts of robbery and sexual assault.


now that mainstream news sites are reporting stuff like this it'll be interesting to see how authorities follow up on this.

yep that's what i meant by 'groups of' but i could see how it could've been worded better, but since there are only 3 suspects and no arrests, who knows how many different groups there are

also they may be an entirely different group of people from the 1000 drunken men earlier on, as those were thrown out of the area and, aside from the aggressive attitude/fireworks use they didn't commit crimes... Later on that night groups of youths entered the area to start shit

Sid Vicious
01-07-2016, 09:55 PM
yep that's what i meant by 'groups of' but i could see how it could've been worded better, but since there are only 3 suspects and no arrests, who knows how many different groups there are

also they may be an entirely different group of people from the 1000 drunken men earlier on, as those were thrown out of the area and, aside from the aggressive attitude/fireworks use they didn't commit crimes... Later on that night groups of youths entered the area to start shit


Reports: Cologne NYE assaulters were largely asylum seekers
A majority of men who sexually harassed women in Cologne on New Year's Eve were asylum seekers, German media reports. City police reportedly did not want to publicize this because of its "politically awkward" nature.
City authorities identified at least some of the perpetrators at Cologne as asylum seekers from Syria, even detaining or questioning some of them, according to reports by local newspaper "Kölner Stadt-anzeiger" and national daily "Die Welt," which published an online preview of investigations by its "Welt am Sonntag" Sunday paper.
According to the newspapers' reports, citing officers on duty on New Year's Eve, officials checked the IDs of at least 100 people present at Cologne's central station on December 31 after their behavior became conspicuous. Seventy-one people were identified, 11 people were remanded into custody and 32 criminal complaints were registered, according to the Welt am Sonntag (WamS) report.
"There were, quite to the contrary of what was said publicly, identity checks on numerous people," the WamS quoted an unnamed officer as saying. "Most of them were recently-arrived asylum-seekers."
The first internal police report on the event - a so-called "wichtige Ereignis Meldung" ("important event announcement") - spoke of a crowd mainly of "North African and Arab" origin. According to the Kölner Stadt-anzeiger, the officer leading the team at the station wanted the report to include mention of the Syrians and asylum seekers, but the senior officer writing the "WE-Meldung" decided not to, saying it would be "politically awkward."
It is still unclear whether the same persons were involved in the assaults.
Offenders were after 'sexual amusement'
WamS also received information contradicting another official statement by the city police, which said the main intention of the men in Cologne was to steal from passengers and that assault was secondary. However, "what actually happened was the exact opposite," a police officer said on condition of anonymity.
"For the mostly Arabic offenders, sexual assault was the priority, or, to express it from their point of view, their sexual amusement was thepriority. A group of men would encircle a female victim, close the loop, and then start groping the woman," WamS quoted the officer as saying.
The deputy chief of the trade union for police employees (the GdP), Ernst Walter, suggested that the Cologne police's mishandling of the case could cost city police chief Wolfgang Albers his job: "I'm asking myself this," Walter said. "How could the police publish a message on January 1, saying that New Year's celebrations had been peaceful?"
"All these shocking incidents" had become known the same night, he said, adding that officers from the federal police were trying to help women and were worried that "people could have even died."
The media reports still largely contradict Cologne police's official account of events, which say that 16 possible suspects have so far been identified, with that group "to the largest extent" hailing from North Africa.
The state's interior minister, Ralf Jäger, has already ordered a first full formal report on the incident, which is due for submission on Monday. When asked for a comment by the Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger local paper, police referred the reporters to the impending formal report, saying they would neither confirm nor deny the report.
Nearly 1,000 men are reported to have divided themselves into smaller groups and robbed and sexually harassed women at Cologne's central station on New Year's Eve. Similar incidents occurred on a far smaller scale in Hamburg and Stuttgart.
mg/msh (AFP, dpa, Reuters)

Reports: Cologne NYE assaulters were largely asylum seekers | News | DW.COM | 07.01.2016 (http://www.dw.com/en/reports-cologne-nye-assaulters-were-largely-asylum-seekers/a-18966406)

StylinRed
01-07-2016, 10:15 PM
yeah ive been watching the updates, and the number of police complaints over that night have skyrocketed too (last i heard it was around 1,000 reports) :eek:
number of suspects are still low though, but it has gone up quite a bit from just 3 (up to 15? officially)

and if those newspaper findings turn out to be true (number of suspects, those detained, etc) then this is still a conspiracy but not one from the anti-refugee groups

Hondaracer
01-08-2016, 07:35 AM
Said of the 30 prime suspects, 18 are asylum seeking refugees

Sid Vicious
01-08-2016, 08:03 AM
yeah ive been watching the updates, and the number of police complaints over that night have skyrocketed too (last i heard it was around 1,000 reports) :eek:
number of suspects are still low though, but it has gone up quite a bit from just 3 (up to 15? officially)

and if those newspaper findings turn out to be true (number of suspects, those detained, etc) then this is still a conspiracy but not one from the anti-refugee groups

Conspiracy? what the hell are you talking about

GLOW
01-08-2016, 08:32 AM
i think he meant instead of it being an anti-refugee propaganda attempt, it's actually the opposite, an attempt at covering up for refugees committing criminal acts for fear of public image issues or perception of anti-refugee propaganda

StylinRed
01-08-2016, 08:47 AM
Conspiracy? what the hell are you talking about

what glow said

Sid Vicious
01-08-2016, 09:45 AM
Swedish women report being groped by men on New Year’s Eve

Swedish police say at least 15 young women have reported being groped by groups of men on New Year’s Eve in the city of Kalmar.

The Swedish reports follow a string of sex assaults and robberies during New Year’s celebrations in Germany.

Kalmar police spokesman Johan Bruun on Friday said groups of men encircled women on a crowded square and groped them. He said no one was physically injured but that many of those targeted were terrified.

He said two men, both asylum-seekers, were informed through interpreters that they’re suspected of sexual assault and that police are trying to identify other suspects.

Asked about similarities to assaults in Germany, Bruun said, “We are aware of what happened in Germany but we are focusing our investigation on what happened in Kalmar.”



Let's hope Trudeau learns from Europe's mistakes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12088341/Two-teenage-girls-gang-raped-by-four-Syrian-nationals-in-southern-Germany.html

Mr.HappySilp
01-08-2016, 01:25 PM
^^ with comment like that you are going to have refugee loving RS member attacking you.

I always wonder since so many ppl support the refugee coming to Canada how many of them actually open their doors to allow the refugees to live in their homes, feed them, provide for them. Or are they simply supporting the act with absolutely no intention of helping any refugees.

Sid Vicious
01-08-2016, 01:52 PM
^^ with comment like that you are going to have refugee loving RS member attacking you.

I always wonder since so many ppl support the refugee coming to Canada how many of them actually open their doors to allow the refugees to live in their homes, feed them, provide for them. Or are they simply supporting the act with absolutely no intention of helping any refugees.

that's okay, with cases like this in Germany, Sweden and Finland my stance is gaining validation by the day.

hopefully one day the people who support this will pull their collective heads out of their asses

StylinRed
01-08-2016, 02:40 PM
that's okay, with cases like this in Germany, Sweden and Finland my stance is gaining validation by the day.

hopefully one day the people who support this will pull their collective heads out of their asses

you supported the narrative that this was the fault of refugees, before there was anything concrete to that claim, so, speaking of pulling heads out of asses..
even now it's not concrete, but the details are growing...

you also have to realize that Germany has accepted over 1,000,000 refugees in the past year, hooligans/criminals being amongst that number shouldn't be a surprise
Germany didn't have the ability to screen everyone, unlike us

Sid Vicious
01-08-2016, 02:52 PM
you supported the narrative that this was the fault of refugees, before there was anything concrete to that claim, so, speaking of pulling heads out of asses..
even now it's not concrete, but the details are growing...

you also have to realize that Germany has accepted over 1,000,000 refugees in the past year, hooligans/criminals being amongst that number shouldn't be a surprise
Germany didn't have the ability to screen everyone, unlike us

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sTY8BIy_Tjs/VmGpe6TPHJI/AAAAAAAAIGk/8lDYoD8Gw1k/s640/Norway%2BMuslim%2Bcriminal%2Bimmigrant%2Bgroups%2B 2004%2Bto%2B2009%2Bgraph.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PLyBxFWonK4/Vl3JSAI9kAI/AAAAAAAAH1o/BJJQa0iUtd8/s640/Sweden%2BArab%2Bcriminal%2Bimmigrant%2Bgroups%2B19 97%2Bto%2B2001%2Bgraph.png
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bOyjTBwyuK4/VmGqe2nDswI/AAAAAAAAIGw/G_Hs4WSPkm0/s640/Denmark%2BMuslim%2Bcriminal%2Bgroups%2B2013%2Bbar% 2Bgraph.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7lHPdsLuFLU/VmOgQS6thEI/AAAAAAAAIKY/uJ7o8nbgEo0/s1600/Sweden%2BRape%2Bstats%2B1997%2Bto%2B2001%2Bby%2Bim migrant%2Borigin%2Bbar%2Bgraph.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-McMd_WvVqRk/VmQsLZ_rwUI/AAAAAAAAIL0/qyn1JFZdP0I/s1600/Denmark%2Brape%2Bstats%2Bimmigrant%2Borigin%2B2000 %2B02.png

thoughts on these statistics?

I don't believe that this an issue with ethnicity or race, but i just feel importing a buncha uneducated people from war torn countries that treat women like chattel is a bad idea.

StylinRed
01-08-2016, 03:08 PM
id say on the face of it those are shockingly racist and bigoted 'stats' (they categorized it by race...), and without any other info on how they came to these 'stats', i couldn't say anymore... were they taking into account the socio-economic background of the migrants, etc? what blog did you get the images from?


would you care to comment on your jumping to conclusions before any data is available? or comment on the luxury we have of screening migrants/refugees etc? and accept that when you have a volley of 1,000,000+ people, you shouldn't be surprised there may be criminals in that number? remember Germany didn't hand pick these refugees from the refugee camps, these were just people who raided the borders


I don't believe that this an issue with ethnicity or race, but i just feel importing a buncha uneducated people from war torn countries that treat women like chattel is a bad idea.

I can agree with that, but again, we have the luxury to screen these refugees, Germany/EU didn't

Trudeau outlined that they're just looking at bringing families over, that should really allay fears imo

Sid Vicious
01-08-2016, 03:14 PM
id say on the face of it those are shockingly racist and bigoted 'stats' (they categorized it by race...), and without any other info on how they came to these 'stats', i couldn't say anymore... were they taking into account the socio-economic background of the migrants, etc? what blog did you get the images from?


would you care to comment on your jumping to conclusions before any data is available? or comment on the luxury we have of screening migrants/refugees etc? and accept that when you have a volley of 1,000,000+ people, you shouldn't be surprised there may be criminals in that number? remember Germany didn't hand pick these refugees from the refugee camps, these were just people who raided the borders



I can agree with that, but again, we have the luxury to screen these refugees, Germany/EU didn't

Trudeau outlined that they're just looking at bringing families over, that should really allay fears imo

calling numbers racist and bigoted? that is stupid lol

how am i jumping to conclusions, the statistics and hard data paint a very clear picture.

why even allow those 1mil to immigrate if you cannot screen them? seems like a failure of their gov't.

for example, the statistics for Sweden were done by "The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå) functions as the Swedish Government's body of expertise within the judical system."

StylinRed
01-08-2016, 03:25 PM
calling numbers racist and bigoted? that is stupid lol numbers in itself aren't, but how they're used and put together are, and it's really just like taking a sound bite from a politician/celebrity/faith and using it against them, without taking in the whole picture, which is why i was curious about what site they were from, or the source of the stats, to see how they put those stats together, and what their considerations were, stats done improperly can say/show/support whichever argument you wish

how am i jumping to conclusions, the statistics and hard data paint a very clear picture.
because literally there were only some claims and accusations initially with no hard evidence, and you backed the notion that it was a marauding gang of refugees out committing crime

why even allow those 1mil to immigrate if you cannot screen them? seems like a failure of their gov't.
how are you going to stop 1 million people? and there is an immense humanitarian need that cannot be ignored (we've been through this before in past threads)

Tr1ll
01-11-2016, 09:28 AM
Meanwhile in Sweden.. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/world/europe/swedish-police-coverup-sexual-assault.html

kkttsang
01-11-2016, 09:35 AM
12-17 yr olds and in the German incident there was a 15 yr old. These are young girls too, wtf man. Pedo much.

iEatClams
01-11-2016, 10:22 AM
Meanwhile in Sweden.. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/world/europe/swedish-police-coverup-sexual-assault.html

other articles from major news sites mention that it's young afghan and syrian men. And they are groping girls, some as young as 14. Like seriously WTF.

The solution: instant deportation. send them a message.

Mr.HappySilp
01-11-2016, 10:40 AM
other articles from major news sites mention that it's young afghan and syrian men. And they are groping girls, some as young as 14. Like seriously WTF.

The solution: instant deportation. send them a message.

And they need to be punish in public before being deported

https://youtu.be/i_y7YEIphts

This will teach them a lesson.

nsmb
01-11-2016, 07:52 PM
WutFace

inb4 StylinRed defends them Kappa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKu6Y7FtgF4

jonwon
01-11-2016, 08:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1Auofh.jpg

The_Situation
01-11-2016, 08:05 PM
lets see these fucking terrorist cunts do this in vancouver. bring on the fails

jonwon
01-11-2016, 08:15 PM
Fucking raging. Germany is giving them the privilege of living by saving them from their shit countries. Germany should also have the privilege of taking their lives. FAIL ME

radioman
01-11-2016, 08:16 PM
WutFace

inb4 StylinRed defends them Kappa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKu6Y7FtgF4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avUViko6TNA

nsmb
01-11-2016, 08:17 PM
same thing tbh

westopher
01-11-2016, 08:39 PM
Fucking raging. Germany is giving them the privilege of living by saving them from their shit countries. Germany should also have the privilege of taking their lives. FAIL ME
How many german born citizens do you think have committed the same/similar crimes in Germany?

StylinRed
01-11-2016, 09:07 PM
Meanwhile in Sweden.. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/world/europe/swedish-police-coverup-sexual-assault.html

12-17 yr olds and in the German incident there was a 15 yr old. These are young girls too, wtf man. Pedo much.

to be clear, the article says that the festival caters to 12-17yr olds, not that all those groped were 12-17, also, it doesn't mention the age of those doing the groping... not that it matters, groping is groping, but it makes the 'pedo' comment relevant or irrelevant

although based on what iEatClams has read, they're young men doing the groping


WutFace

inb4 StylinRed defends them Kappa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKu6Y7FtgF4

1) I'm not defending them, only if you were thick headed would you think that... I'm defending reason and common sense

2) that video is fucking fucked up, that looks like it was taken straight out of a horror/zombie movie, these are the sorts of videos that were lacking initially, that caused me to be :suspicious:

Hopefully the police will be able to employ the same, or better efforts, that we were able to use in finding the Canucks rioters, and find the people in these videos and air drop them into Isis territory... although some context on whats going on might be important too, maybe those guiding the women were trying to get them through the assholes, as clips are almost like sound bites

edit: failed myself for falling for NSMB's bs video

iEatClams
01-11-2016, 09:50 PM
to be clear, the article says that the festival caters to 12-17yr olds, not that all those groped were 12-17, also, it doesn't mention the age of those doing the groping... not that it matters, groping is groping, but it makes the 'pedo' comment relevant or irrelevant

although based on what iEatClams has read, they're young men doing the groping




1) I'm not defending them, only if you were thick headed would you think that... I'm defending reason and common sense

2) that video is fucking fucked up, that looks like it was taken straight out of a horror/zombie movie, these are the sorts of videos that were lacking initially, that caused me to be :suspicious:

Hopefully the police will be able to employ the same, or better efforts, that we were able to use in finding the Canucks rioters, and find the people in these videos and air drop them into Isis territory... although some context on whats going on might be important too, maybe those guiding the women were trying to get them through the assholes, as clips are almost like sound bites


unfortunately, the cops are trying to cover up this stuff in these countries. and it's all over the news in europe. huge scandal over there now as there's soo many cases of rapes/sexual assaults. I really hope they do track down these people and deport them. they need to set an example.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/world/europe/swedish-police-coverup-sexual-assault.html

this is also blowing up on reddit europe, and on reddit front page as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe


some of the accounts are terrifying:


Swedish mother-of-two was subjected to a brutal gang-rape by 12 Afghan immigrants in a refugee camp in Mariannelund. Reports stated "The rape was oral, anal and vaginal sometimes with three rapists inside her at the same time while everybody was cheering and clapping. The gruesome rape marathon lasted for 7 hours. 11 suspect may have been involved taking turns while drinking and getting high on drugs. The asylum seekers were cheering and clapping their hands during the rape marathon while calling the victim "whore" and "slut"."

She is now subject to nightmares and panic attacks, and lives in a psychiatric clinic. She is bound to a wheelchair due to damages to her abdomen, and suffers from faecal incontinence."

Mr.C
01-11-2016, 10:09 PM
Some of you must live an incredibly sheltered life.

It was obvious this was going to happen. And it's not because they're Muslims or whatever, it's because they're from a lawless third world shithole. People seemed to think they would magically be grateful for being welcomed into a safe country. Foolish, really, to not say pretty fucking stupid.

If a civil war broke out in Brazil, and Europe let in a bunch of Brazilians without any sort of security checks, you can bet your ass they'd get a lot of the scum we have there, and the same (or worse, probably worse) would happen.

Shortsightedness beyond belief.

Edit: This is going to backfire so bad that it's probably going to cost Merkel (and most likely other leaders) their governments *and* give a ton of traction to extremist right-wing parties. Hope the bleeding hearts are happy.

jonwon
01-11-2016, 10:48 PM
How many german born citizens do you think have committed the same/similar crimes in Germany?

Like what was posted in the videos above? 0 (putting aside Nazi Germany).

BoostedBB6
01-12-2016, 12:23 AM
IMO, if denying immigrants in from these countries prevents one such incident from ever happening here then I think they should be denied. Ever since these mass migrations have been happening in Europe the world has been exploding over all this crap happening and it keeps on flowing in, more and more ever day.

I know that will mean some who need the help will not get the help that they truly need, but I'm tired of all the PC crap. I'm the father of two girls and I look at it simply like this, I will do whatever is needed to keep my family safe and if that means I seem like a bad guy then so be it.

StylinRed
01-12-2016, 02:16 AM
These crimes make it nigh impossible to justify to the public that we should be offering aid, because you're absolutely right in your feelings, why risk our families when these situations are seemingly rampant? which is why incidents like these are all the more tragic, as those refugees deserving of help are also made victims of these crimes.

westopher
01-12-2016, 05:41 AM
Like what was posted in the videos above? 0 (putting aside Nazi Germany).
I obviously don't mean identical, but yes there have been sexual assaults and rape long before this.
For all I care, kill the people who did this, cut of their dicks, etc, but the anti refugee sentiment caused by it isn't reasonable even if they prove the were all refugees, which they won't be when it all comes out.

The world as a whole needs to start understanding that these refugees are individuals just as much as any nationality has its own individuals and should be treated as such.
I'm amazed that a place like RS has as many people as it does buy into the "blame everyone from that group" mentality.

Mr.HappySilp
01-12-2016, 08:57 AM
I obviously don't mean identical, but yes there have been sexual assaults and rape long before this.
For all I care, kill the people who did this, cut of their dicks, etc, but the anti refugee sentiment caused by it isn't reasonable even if they prove the were all refugees, which they won't be when it all comes out.

The world as a whole needs to start understanding that these refugees are individuals just as much as any nationality has its own individuals and should be treated as such.
I'm amazed that a place like RS has as many people as it does buy into the "blame everyone from that group" mentality.

That's the nature of human. Is like how I feel, I work full time ever since 22 and haven't been on EI and income assistance. Now I see refugee coming in and getting all sorts of assistance from the gov and using our health care, education, community service for free. Does it tick me off? A bit. And please don't tell them in x years they will be working paying tax etc etc... no one knows how the future is so you can't predict what will happen.

Since more refugees coming to Canada is women with children and seniors. I see mom either working part time and taking care of her 3 to 4 kids or working full time min pay and using our day care benefit for free and since she is low income she gets these service for free. The grandparents will be using a lot of our health care which means tax payers have to pay for. Or I can see the mom not working to take care of her kids, so she will be on income assistance and welfare, and the grandparents again will be using tons of gov expense. Let's not forget the education her kids will receive and we will need to provide them with English training, course that teach them how to fit into Canadian society, career training etc etc which again tax payers will foot the bill.

So why should Canada as a country who is already in debt, borrow more debt for all these expense? Or why why Europe have to take in these refugees when their economy is shaky as best?One thing that I found Russia and China and even Japan is that they hardly open their doors to refugees or when crisis like this come up, they simply keep their mouth shut. Keeping your own country best interest is what we should do as well. This might sound cruel but when our country is not in the best shape and we are in debt and in rescission we are in no shape to help anyone and to take in more debt.

Back to topic, now I do believe this is blown out of protion. Did it happen? Most likely but not to the scale media is making is to be. Somehow I feel the right wing ppl are pulling some strings here. What Germany and other Euro countries should have done is sent out massive police/millitary force to just go around the cities and search for refugee if you are not register you will be sent back to where they came from. This will clean up the street and sends a message to any refugee who refuse to register will be send back.

El Bastardo
01-12-2016, 09:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avUViko6TNA

This video has been bothering me since I saw it last night. Those screams. Jesus.

GLOW
01-12-2016, 10:38 AM
Germany to Ease Deportation Rules After Cologne Sex-Assault Spree - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/europes-border-crisis/germany-ease-deportation-rules-after-cologne-sex-assault-spree-n494596)

hypediss
01-12-2016, 04:21 PM
This video has been bothering me since I saw it last night. Those screams. Jesus.

Same.. shouldnt have watched this before I went to bed ..

threezero
01-12-2016, 04:35 PM
you guys do know that video is from 2013

dutch journalist rape while covering the egyptian uprise in tahir square.

westopher
01-12-2016, 04:42 PM
That's the nature of human. Is like how I feel, I work full time ever since 22 and haven't been on EI and income assistance. Now I see refugee coming in and getting all sorts of assistance from the gov and using our health care, education, community service for free. Does it tick me off? A bit. And please don't tell them in x years they will be working paying tax etc etc... no one knows how the future is so you can't predict what will happen.

Since more refugees coming to Canada is women with children and seniors. I see mom either working part time and taking care of her 3 to 4 kids or working full time min pay and using our day care benefit for free and since she is low income she gets these service for free. The grandparents will be using a lot of our health care which means tax payers have to pay for. Or I can see the mom not working to take care of her kids, so she will be on income assistance and welfare, and the grandparents again will be using tons of gov expense. Let's not forget the education her kids will receive and we will need to provide them with English training, course that teach them how to fit into Canadian society, career training etc etc which again tax payers will foot the bill.

So why should Canada as a country who is already in debt, borrow more debt for all these expense? Or why why Europe have to take in these refugees when their economy is shaky as best?One thing that I found Russia and China and even Japan is that they hardly open their doors to refugees or when crisis like this come up, they simply keep their mouth shut. Keeping your own country best interest is what we should do as well. This might sound cruel but when our country is not in the best shape and we are in debt and in rescission we are in no shape to help anyone and to take in more debt.
This isn't about our country vs their country. Its about humans helping humans in need. Nationality shouldn't matter when speaking in terms of humanity. I don't want people leeching of the system more than the next guy, but I do want people in need to be helped. There is no way even 10% of refugees coming here will not end up bettering themselves and becoming contributing members of society. They are people just like us and have the desire to be happy, healthy, and comfortable just like the rest of us. The life that someone on social assistance lives is not a fucking awesome one. Those that have the ability to get out of it, will. Wether they are from Syria, Uganda, China, Canada, France or wherever.

Back to topic, now I do believe this is blown out of protion. Did it happen? Most likely but not to the scale media is making is to be. Somehow I feel the right wing ppl are pulling some strings here. What Germany and other Euro countries should have done is sent out massive police/millitary force to just go around the cities and search for refugee if you are not register you will be sent back to where they came from. This will clean up the street and sends a message to any refugee who refuse to register will be send back.I do agree with you that if a country takes you in, you better register as a guest in that country and be on your best behaviour, and be prepared for the consequences if you aren't. And there is no doubt that the media is playing up the anti refugee/anti muslim sentiment for advertising dollars. Thats not to downplay the severity of the crimes, but the world is a very ugly place far beyond this.

StylinRed
01-12-2016, 04:42 PM
you guys do know that video is from 2013

dutch journalist rape while covering the egyptian uprise in tahir square.

hah, even i fell for the video, thought they were 2 different vids (didnt click on the 2nd) and assumed the arabic writing in the 'cologne germany' one was grafitti sigh :seriously:nsmb

nsmb
01-12-2016, 04:48 PM
hah, even i fell for the video, thought they were 2 different vids (didnt click on the 2nd) and assumed the arabic writing in the 'cologne germany' one was grafitti sigh :seriously:nsmb

lol like it makes a difference

StylinRed
01-12-2016, 04:54 PM
makes a huge difference actually.... a major one, it's bullshit videos like this that spur hate and gets people killed

there have already been refugees that have been attacked, not only over in Europe, but here in Vancouver because of bs propaganda like what you posted..

hypediss
01-12-2016, 05:05 PM
just to be clear i was only commenting my view of the act displayed within the video and not forming an opinion on any matter related to the events that transpired recently

in a sense it didnt really matter to me whether that video was from 2013 or not as in a later post has shown - the video recorded a disturbing act and that was that

Mr.C
01-12-2016, 07:40 PM
So its no big deal that it happened in 2013. Ok.

Verdasco
01-12-2016, 08:53 PM
really wanted to visit germany.... guess not anymore


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfHCuv3Zcrs

SpartanAir
01-12-2016, 09:45 PM
I was in Cologne the day before these attacks at the Cathedral, and I spent NYE on the Elbe in Dresden with about 100,000 other people. The footage above doesn't show much. It seems chaotic, yes, but it was an identical situation in Dresden.

I was pretty shocked the whole night to learn that all over Germany and many parts of Europe, they celebrate with fireworks in the streets. Several times I saw people throwing firecrackers near other people, and bottle rockets flying off into drunken crowds. It was pretty nuts. But really fun. You can openly drink and it's not an issue like in Canada.

But what was different was that in Dresden, there were all types of people, ages, races, men and women, but in the above video you can see it's mainly men. Still, all that video does is show how NYE is celebrated in Germany.

StylinRed
01-13-2016, 12:30 AM
So its no big deal that it happened in 2013. Ok.

if that's what you think is being related to you by me, then I feel bad for you.

if you can't see, not only how wrong it is to misrepresent such crimes, but also how dangerous it is to be placing such blame onto anyone, let alone an already victimized group, then there really is no reason to continue a discussion

as I said to nsmb, misrepresented videos like those get people killed

why don't the anti-refugee groups simply upload videos of the holocaust and title it 'attack on germans by refugees' since it's 'all the same' to you?

Mr.HappySilp
01-13-2016, 09:44 AM
This isn't about our country vs their country. Its about humans helping humans in need. Nationality shouldn't matter when speaking in terms of humanity. I don't want people leeching of the system more than the next guy, but I do want people in need to be helped. There is no way even 10% of refugees coming here will not end up bettering themselves and becoming contributing members of society. They are people just like us and have the desire to be happy, healthy, and comfortable just like the rest of us. The life that someone on social assistance lives is not a fucking awesome one. Those that have the ability to get out of it, will. Wether they are from Syria, Uganda, China, Canada, France or wherever.

I do agree with you that if a country takes you in, you better register as a guest in that country and be on your best behaviour, and be prepared for the consequences if you aren't. And there is no doubt that the media is playing up the anti refugee/anti muslim sentiment for advertising dollars. Thats not to downplay the severity of the crimes, but the world is a very ugly place far beyond this.

There is an old saying in Chinese "a Mud Buddha crossing the river, he can't even save himself so don't expect him to save you." I think this really applies to Canada atm. We are in debt and lot's of debt, our dollar is going to shit, economy is not doing well yet we want to take in more refugee to put the country in a even worse state is not a good idea. We won't be able to provide all the service for the refugee needs in order to be live on their own, we don't have the health care, the jobs, the infrastructure. So in the end we not only made our country in more shit hole but now have to deal with the refugees issues.

SumAznGuy
01-13-2016, 11:01 AM
There is an old saying in Chinese "a Mud Buddha crossing the river, he can't even save himself so don't expect him to save you." I think this really applies to Canada atm. We are in debt and lot's of debt, our dollar is going to shit, economy is not doing well yet we want to take in more refugee to put the country in a even worse state is not a good idea. We won't be able to provide all the service for the refugee needs in order to be live on their own, we don't have the health care, the jobs, the infrastructure. So in the end we not only made our country in more shit hole but now have to deal with the refugees issues.

Actually, this is where you are wrong.
Because Canada is doing the shits, this is the best time to do what Canada is doing.
By investing all this money into the refugees, that in turn creates economic spin-off that will help the economy. And then in a few years, these refugees should be contributing members of our society.

Remember back in 2009 when the US was in a recession. Everyone freaked out by not spending and hoarding their money under the mattress? Well, less money was being spent and that further hurts the economy.

Great depression. It was all the spending on tanks and bombs and stuff for WWI that brought the world out of it.

Mr.HappySilp
01-13-2016, 12:22 PM
^^ There is no guarantee that refugee will contributing members of our society. Why not invest in infrastructure for other industry such as bio tech, manufacturing, etc etc.

SumAznGuy
01-13-2016, 12:41 PM
^^ There is no guarantee that refugee will contributing members of our society. Why not invest in infrastructure for other industry such as bio tech, manufacturing, etc etc.

The government isn't going to give money to private companies.
And you need to be a little more specific with a term like "infrastructure for other industry" cause right now that doesn't mean anything.

If you mean infrastructure like roads and highways and bridges, then yes.
If you mean donations to corporations so that they execs can give themselves bonuses like they did in the US with the bail out money, then please no.

Hondaracer
01-13-2016, 03:42 PM
Actually, this is where you are wrong.
Because Canada is doing the shits, this is the best time to do what Canada is doing.
By investing all this money into the refugees, that in turn creates economic spin-off that will help the economy. And then in a few years, these refugees should be contributing members of our society.

Remember back in 2009 when the US was in a recession. Everyone freaked out by not spending and hoarding their money under the mattress? Well, less money was being spent and that further hurts the economy.

Great depression. It was all the spending on tanks and bombs and stuff for WWI that brought the world out of it.

The VAST majority of the refugees to Canada are women, and young children

Not the young working age males, it's women and THEIR young children.

You think that group is going to be contributing to society? Lol that's the opposite of the demographic you want to actually work and contribute.

westopher
01-13-2016, 03:48 PM
You guys are putting dollar values on who lives or dies. You want someone to contribute? How about the people living in 15 million dollar homes that pay no taxes other than their property tax because their income is "zero."
How about the massive corporations that are "based in America" and pay minimal taxes while taking our water, oil and natural gas.
How about the massive Canadian companies that outsource labour to bangladesh?
You guys are blaming the wrong group for our fucked economy. Poor people aren't making us broke. Rich people are.

Mr.C
01-13-2016, 10:32 PM
if that's what you think is being related to you by me, then I feel bad for you.

if you can't see, not only how wrong it is to misrepresent such crimes, but also how dangerous it is to be placing such blame onto anyone, let alone an already victimized group, then there really is no reason to continue a discussion

as I said to nsmb, misrepresented videos like those get people killed

why don't the anti-refugee groups simply upload videos of the holocaust and title it 'attack on germans by refugees' since it's 'all the same' to you?

Yeah... victimized... Sure. I think we're not talking about the same group. I'm talking about the violent pieces of shit mixed in with the refugees who are looking for a better life.

Stop being so naive, geez. Your first post in the thread was of disbelief that what was described actually happened. Like, really?

I'm not anti-refugee. I'm anti-bleeding heart types who want to try and help everybody, while forgetting that there are people that don't deserve your compassion.

nah
01-13-2016, 10:32 PM
Also the senior citizens that come to Canada and collect old age pension, even though they've never contributed a penny to CPP.

My grandparents are from this set and they collect $25,000 a year and I don't think it's fair to Canada.

GLOW
01-14-2016, 07:32 AM
if we're talking about contributing to society, i can see the young children doing that...how many of us have poor immigrant parents or grandparents that came here with nothing to make a life for their kids... now we're all in school or trained and working jobs and living better lives than our parents did growing up

Mr.HappySilp
01-14-2016, 07:59 AM
The government isn't going to give money to private companies.
And you need to be a little more specific with a term like "infrastructure for other industry" cause right now that doesn't mean anything.

If you mean infrastructure like roads and highways and bridges, then yes.
If you mean donations to corporations so that they execs can give themselves bonuses like they did in the US with the bail out money, then please no.

I should be more clear. when gov invest in a person that person can leave the country anytime thus leaving all the investment we did on that person 0 benefit. If we invest say in roads and highways and help the industry as whole (IE grants for say company invested in clean energy tech or research), grants for starts up, low interest loan for small to medium business. At least with these type of investment unless the company fold they will always operate thus hiring more skills workers. So the investment gov makes is not only for that one person but rather benefit more people.

Sid Vicious
01-14-2016, 08:27 AM
You guys are putting dollar values on who lives or dies. You want someone to contribute? How about the people living in 15 million dollar homes that pay no taxes other than their property tax because their income is "zero."
How about the massive corporations that are "based in America" and pay minimal taxes while taking our water, oil and natural gas.
How about the massive Canadian companies that outsource labour to bangladesh?
You guys are blaming the wrong group for our fucked economy. Poor people aren't making us broke. Rich people are.

That's a non sequitir to the original topic

It's not a question of whether or not refugees will be a economic burden, in fact they usually are but that's a moot point.

the whole point that importing tons of people who belong to a stone age barbaric cult into societies where they will not integrate will inevitably cause that country huge problems. it's a fact - look all across europe.

canada is doing the right thing by importing mostly women and children but we shouldn't hesitate to be extremely harsh on those who fail to comply to canada's laws.

it's also a sign of how poisonous overt political correctness is. it is widely reported in Germany and Sweden now that the cops are hiding and falsifying reports of rape because they do not want to appear "racist"

This is the same kind thinking that has infiltrated RS in a certain way, anytime you bring up islam in a negative light people will shout "xenophobe" or "racist" to you as if it means anything

https://www.rt.com/news/328904-sweden-refugee-sex-assaults/

SumAznGuy
01-14-2016, 08:53 AM
I should be more clear. when gov invest in a person that person can leave the country anytime thus leaving all the investment we did on that person 0 benefit. If we invest say in roads and highways and help the industry as whole (IE grants for say company invested in clean energy tech or research), grants for starts up, low interest loan for small to medium business. At least with these type of investment unless the company fold they will always operate thus hiring more skills workers. So the investment gov makes is not only for that one person but rather benefit more people.

Have to look at the bigger picture.
The government is going to invest the money to help stimulate the economy.
It doesn't really matter in what form.
But, there is something that money can't buy, and in this case it is good PR.

It's the "right" thing to do.

Plus, it's not a 100% loss because the people are not leaving right away.
In the next few years they will be spending money which will in turn help the economy.
Say 10 years of schooling before they leave. Well, that is 10 years that they have helped put back into the economy, directly or indirectly.

Plus, how many of them will leave? I bet it is a small percentage.

El Bastardo
01-14-2016, 09:44 AM
the whole point that importing tons of people who belong to a stone age barbaric cult into societies where they will not integrate will inevitably cause that country huge problems. it's a fact - look all across europe.


Opinions on Islam aside, it does seem to be a culture clash. A similar nation with similar values may be the best place for them. Much respect to Jordan for taking in tons of refugees and absolutely no respect for Saudi Arabia for refusing them.


This is the same kind thinking that has infiltrated RS in a certain way, anytime you bring up islam in a negative light people will shout "xenophobe" or "racist" to you as if it means anything


I'm not saying that this has happened here on Revscene... but this has totally happened here on Revscene. Part of being in a free society is having the right to look at things critically. Unfortunately that mindset is popular in public as well as here on Revscene (which maintains it is a private site and can censor as it pleases).

I'm not saying that a certain Chicago-based Revscenester has been railroaded for his opinions.. but a certain Chicago-based Revscenester has totally been railroaded for his opinions.

iEatClams
01-14-2016, 09:04 PM
That's a non sequitir to the original topic

It's not a question of whether or not refugees will be a economic burden, in fact they usually are but that's a moot point.

the whole point that importing tons of people who belong to a stone age barbaric cult into societies where they will not integrate will inevitably cause that country huge problems. it's a fact - look all across europe.

canada is doing the right thing by importing mostly women and children but we shouldn't hesitate to be extremely harsh on those who fail to comply to canada's laws.

it's also a sign of how poisonous overt political correctness is. it is widely reported in Germany and Sweden now that the cops are hiding and falsifying reports of rape because they do not want to appear "racist"

This is the same kind thinking that has infiltrated RS in a certain way, anytime you bring up islam in a negative light people will shout "xenophobe" or "racist" to you as if it means anything

https://www.rt.com/news/328904-sweden-refugee-sex-assaults/

Also amen on the culture clash.


we live in a free country, and a free country, we are allowed to voice our opinions. Worst case we get called racists/. Unlike other countries where we get thrown in prison, hanged, stoned, etc.

Honestly though, Germany fucked up huge. They took in Millions of refugees in, mostly men (70%). Their culture and environment are going to change dramatically. When you take in so many people, it allows them to just hang out with each other and their own kind. Instead of assimilating with german/western values.

When the german chancellor basically says - it doesn't matter how you get here, but once you are here we will accept you in. that just opened the floodgates.
Fuck it's not even refugees, as many are economic migrants (pakistani, afghan, north africans / bangladesh). The real syrian refugees are being screwed.

The german government is now closing their doors, but it's too late. They fucked themselves over. Now you have groups of young migrant men assaulting woman, crowding streets looking to pickpocket or threaten you, giving you the "what you looking at?"


Compared to many years before. Going to europe now there's just so many migrants trying to hassle you and sell you selfie sticks and such. Having to worry about pickpockets or being mugged. However once you enter england, it's so much safer - cause of the channel and being non schengen. Britain did the smart thing by limiting migrants.

On a side note, I also find it stupid how some countries like sweden don't report or include the race/ethnicity for crimes - like rape etc. Wouldn't you want to know if there's a larger proportion of one group doing the crimes and perhaps allocate the appropriate resources to try and prevent or tackle it?

nsmb
01-14-2016, 10:07 PM
WutFace

inb4 StylinRed defends them Kappa




2) that video is fucking fucked up, that looks like it was taken straight out of a horror/zombie movie, these are the sorts of videos that were lacking initially, that caused me to be :suspicious:

Hopefully the police will be able to employ the same, or better efforts, that we were able to use in finding the Canucks rioters, and find the people in these videos and air drop them into Isis territory... although some context on whats going on might be important too, maybe those guiding the women were trying to get them through the assholes , as clips are almost like sound bites



those women were dragged down into a subway to get gang raped and you say that.. just fuckin lol DansGame

Ulic Qel-Droma
01-14-2016, 10:22 PM
if we're talking about contributing to society, i can see the young children doing that...how many of us have poor immigrant parents or grandparents that came here with nothing to make a life for their kids... now we're all in school or trained and working jobs and living better lives than our parents did growing up

they didn't think of that because they are too near sighted and are only thinking of their own short lives.

they only care what happens to them and the "unjust" and "unfairness" of the handouts given to refugee's vs THEIR work. they're not thinking of the next generation lol.

they don't understand the perspective of long term.

Sid Vicious
01-15-2016, 07:09 AM
those women were dragged down into a subway to get gang raped and you say that.. just fuckin lol DansGame

Sjw types arent known for using logic or reason, for example he accused a set of numbers of being racist. Cant make this shit up

StylinRed
01-15-2016, 07:39 AM
those women were dragged down into a subway to get gang raped and you say that.. just fuckin lol DansGame

thats before i found out you were posting misrepresented videos, which you seemed to forget about, and then went back to earlier posts to try to nitpick... amusing

also i said Context was needed, and without context there could be any number of reasons, your comment is based on hindsight... as they say hindsight is 20/20

no need for sour grapes, when you're trying to get people killed over completely different events...

Sjw types arent known for using logic or reason, for example he accused a set of numbers of being racist. Cant make this shit up

did you miss your follow-up reply? or do you also have a case of sour grapes, no need to reply, we already know :)

kkttsang
01-15-2016, 07:51 AM
Stylinred, are you a defence attorney, if not you should. You sound like you can do very well getting people off charges.

Sid Vicious
01-15-2016, 11:40 AM
Bill aiming to ban child marriages shot down [in Pakistan]

ISLAMABAD:
Another move to ban child marriages in Pakistan has fallen at the first hurdle. The bill to prohibit underage marriages has been withdrawn after the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) declared it un-Islamic.

The ruling party lawmaker, who moved the bill, withdrew her proposal on Thursday following staunch resistance from the council, which advises the legislature whether or not a certain law is Sharia-compliant.

The National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Religious Affairs and Interfaith Harmony rejected the Child Marriage Restraint (Amendment) Bill 2014 after the CII dubbed it ‘anti-Islamic’ and ‘blasphemous’.

The committee meeting, which was presided over by its Chairman Hafiz Abdul Karim, unanimously rejected the bill on ‘purely religious grounds’. Afterwards, PML-N’s Marvi Memon also withdrew her proposal.

The proposed legislation had recommended harsher punishments for those entering conjugal contracts with minors.

Last week, lawmakers in the Gilgit-Baltistan Assembly had also blocked a bill seeking ban on child marriages over similar concerns.

Of child marriages and medieval mindsets

The CII has already ruled the minimum age stipulated for marriage in the Child Marriages Restriction Act of 1929 does not comply with Islamic laws.

In May 2014, amid severe criticism from various quarters, the council had endorsed its earlier ruling that girls as young as nine years old were eligible to be married “if the signs of puberty are visible”.

About two years ago, CII Chairman Mohammad Khan Sheerani told the National Assembly that the council had given its recommendations over the suggested law and this should not have been discussed anymore.

He made these comments after Marvi had introduced the bill seeking amendments in the marriage act. The bill was then backed by MNAs Asiya Naz Tanoli, Muhammad Pervaiz Malik and Shaista Pervaiz.

Sheerani had opposed the proposed amendments, saying they were contrary to Islamic teachings and laws.

Opposition to anti-child marriage bill

“Parliament cannot create legislation that is against the teachings of the Holy Quran or Sunnah,” he had said while backing his arguments with relevant laws and a few references from the Holy Quran and Hadith.

According to Islamic laws, marriage can be solemnised when a girl attains puberty, Sheerani claimed. Under the Constitution, the CII chairman is the final authority in the council with the choice to overrule the voice of all members. While the CII’s decisions are not binding on parliament, they are treated as the guiding principles to frame laws.

Published in The Express Tribune, January 15th, 2016.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/1027742/settled-matter-bill-aiming-to-ban-child-marriages-shot-down/

The_AK
01-15-2016, 02:38 PM
Wrong thread *edit*

iEatClams
01-16-2016, 10:01 AM
Bill aiming to ban child marriages shot down - The Express Tribune (http://tribune.com.pk/story/1027742/settled-matter-bill-aiming-to-ban-child-marriages-shot-down/)


Most of the people in these countries have non western views that would not be compatible with us.

Woman are being groped, it's the woman's fault for not covering up and wearing hijabs. that's the way these people think.


Here's a video about what egyptian boys in their own words think about why girls get sexually harassed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuX78fgizRg&feature=youtu.be&t=3


you know why all of europe is pissed right now? imagine if your sister, wife, daughter is being groped and the government and police are not doing anything.

Sid Vicious
01-25-2016, 02:21 PM
Fatal stabbing at asylum centre shocks Sweden - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35406072)


Fatal stabbing at asylum centre shocks Sweden

weden's prime minister has described as a "terrible crime" the stabbing of a female employee at a centre for young asylum seekers.
Prime Minister Stefan Lofven visited the centre for unaccompanied migrants in Molndal, near Gothenburg, hours after the killing.
The suspect, an asylum seeker aged 15, has been arrested for the killing of the employee, who was 22.
Mr Lofven said many Swedes feared that such attacks could happen again.
"I believe that there are quite many people in Sweden who feel a lot of concern that there can be more cases of this kind, when Sweden receives so many children and youth, who come alone [to seek asylum]" he was quoted as saying by Radio Sweden.

Police officers arriving at the scene found a "crime scene with a lot of blood", said police press spokesman Thomas Fuxborg.
"The perpetrator had been overpowered by other residents, people were down and upset."
The unnamed victim died in hospital of her injuries.
A knife believed to be the one used in the attack was recovered.
Swedish Radio said the residents at the home, all aged between 14 and 17, would be moved to new accommodation for the night.
Pressure on police
Sweden's National Police Commissioner, Dan Eliasson, has requested 4,100 additional officers and support staff to help fight against terrorism, carry out migrant deportations and police asylum facilities, Swedish news agency TT reports.
"We are forced to respond to many disturbances in asylum reception centres," he was quoted as saying.
"In some places, this takes significant police resources. This was not the case six months ago and it means that we won't be able to respond as effectively in other areas."
Sweden accepted more than 150,000 asylum applications last year and, along with Germany, is a prime destination for refugees and other migrants entering the EU illegally.
However, it recently introduced temporary border checks in a bid to control the influx of people.

StylinRed
02-05-2016, 04:56 AM
hate to bring this thread up again, but... record setting 22+ sexual assaults on first night of Carnival in Cologne Germany, more attacks this year than last year, even with the heightened police presence... looks like they're skinheads too

although it's described as a 'cross section of the community'

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/872/cpsprodpb/180A7/production/_88117489_511a5d9e-8f75-45c9-b86e-d67b4a221130.jpg

Cologne Carnival: Police record 22 sexual assaults - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35502223)

seems like, as i wondered in the beginning, that germany just has a sexual assault problem in general

6o4__boi
02-05-2016, 07:58 AM
is that....pippi longstocking?

Sid Vicious
02-05-2016, 08:25 AM
interesting

German spy agency says ISIS sending fighters disguised as refugees

Islamic State militants have slipped into Europe disguised as refugees, the head of Germany's domestic intelligence agency (BfV) said on Friday, a day after security forces thwarted a potential IS attack in Berlin.

Hans-Georg Maassen said the terrorist attacks in Paris last November had shown that Islamic State was deliberately planting terrorists among the refugees flowing into Europe.

"Then we have repeatedly seen that terrorists ... have slipped in camouflaged or disguised as refugees. This is a fact that the security agencies are facing," Maassen told ZDF television.

"We are trying to recognize and identify whether there are still more IS fighters or terrorists from IS that have slipped in," he added.

he Berliner Zeitung newspaper cited Maassen on Friday as saying that the BfV had received more than 100 tip-offs that there were Islamic State fighters among the refugees currently staying in Germany.

German fears about an attack have risen since the Paris killings. On Thursday, German forces arrested two men suspected of links to Islamic State militants preparing an attack in the German capital.

Authorities also canceled a friendly international soccer match in Hanover last year and closed stations in Munich at New Year due to security concerns.

Maassen, however, warned against alarm.

"We are in a serious situation and there is a high risk that there could be an attack. But the security agencies, the intelligence services and the police authorities are very alert and our goal is to minimize the risk as best we can," he said.

German spy agency says ISIS sending fighters disguised as refugees | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-idUSKCN0VE0XL?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews)

CharlesInCharge
02-18-2016, 09:45 PM
-=========== UPDATE ===========--




Only 3 out of 58 detained suspects in Cologne sexual assaults are refugees – public prosecutor

Only three out of 58 men arrested in connection with New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Cologne are refugees or migrants, according to a public prosecutor. It comes after the reported attacks prompted a severe backlash toward Angela Merkel's open-door policy.

Refugees were blamed for more than 1,000 reports of sexual assault, rape, and theft which took place in the German city on December 31.

However, only three of those arrested for the crimes – two Syrians and an Iraqi – had recently arrived in the country, Cologne public prosecutor Ulrich Bremer told Die Welt newspaper.

The majority were from Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco, although they were not part of the massive influx of refugees arriving in Germany in 2015, he said. Three of the suspects were German citizens.

Bremer went on to state out that of 1,054 complaints received on New Year's Eve, 600 were connected to theft rather than a sexual offense.

However, the city's new police chief, Jurgen Mathies, said the tactics used likely came from other countries, because he had never seen them used in Germany. He also said the attacks were most likely not premeditated.

It was previously reported by Ralf Jager, interior minister of North Rhine-Westphalia, that 52 suspects had been identified, 15 of whom arrived in Germany as asylum seekers and 11 of whom were staying in the country illegally.

........
https://www.rt.com/news/332505-cologne-sex-attacks-refugees/

westopher
02-18-2016, 10:14 PM
*sid vicious panics as he searches the Internet for more instances of refugees committing crimes.

CharlesInCharge
02-18-2016, 10:31 PM
The establishment spoon feeds its heretic of sexual abuses and uses scapegoats to blame "Muslims" when they themselves are committing the most horrific of child sex abuses.

Does anyone think Sid would ever have such a new report come under his radar?

Shocking List Of MPs CONVICTED Of Child Sex Offences
Members of Parliament convicted of sex offences

The following has been researched and written by Teresa Cooper, I would like to thank her for allowing me to share this information, please take the time to visit No 2 Abuse (http://www.no2abuse.com). Teresa Coper is the Author of Trust No One/Pin Down.

Convicted MPs – at a glance

. Labour Councillor (Northampton/Northamptonshire), and former School Governor, Alec Dyer-Atkins – Convicted and jailed for 2 years in 2003 for downloading more than 42,000 pictures and films described in court as “Horrifying images of child abuse”. Dyer-Atkins was a member of an international paedophile ring called `The Shadows Brotherhood` which was successfully penetrated following sterling work by Britain’s National Hi-Tech Crime Unit (NHTCU). Commenting on the conviction of the depraved Labour Party beast, NHTCU Deputy Head, Mick Deats said: “This man had some of the worst images on his computers that officers from this unit have ever viewed”.

. Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell – Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.

. Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys – Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

. Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker – Received a banning order for stalking women.

. Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor – Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.

. Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington – Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.

. Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy – Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

. Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan – Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

. Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer – Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.

. Tory Party councillor and former Mayor (Wrexham), Michael Morris – Convicted and put on probation for 2 years, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV.

. Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who’s job includes running the Tory GLA website – Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.

. Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn – Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

. Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner – Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

. Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green – Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He raped one woman on her wedding day.

. Labour Mayor (Todmordon) John Winstanley – Convicted and jailed for rape and threats to kill. After raping and threatening to kill his terrified victim, Winstanley then ordered the woman to go on all fours before urinating on her.

. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

. Labour’s current Parliamentary Candidate (Reading East) Tony Page – Has 2 Convictions for Acts of Gross Indecency` in public toilets.

. Labour Mayor (Burnley) Mark Swainston – Convicted of sex offences in public toilet.

. Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

. Labour Councillor (North Yorkshire) Raymond Coats – Court appearance for indecently assaulting a woman.

. Labour MP (Rhonda Valley) Chris Bryant poses in his pants on the Internet to advertise himself for casual gay sex encounters. Describes himself as “Horny as bu**ery” and says, “I’d love a good long f**k”.

. Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

. Labour MP Ron Davies was mugged by a Rasta on Clapham Common while cruising for gay sex. He was photographed again by the media recently, engaged in some `man-on-man` action in a field off a motorway. “I was only looking for badgers” he said.

. Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne – Arrested by Police following a sex attack.

. Labour MP, Joe Ashton – Caught up in a Police raid while frequenting a brothel. Tried to lie his way out of the scandal.

. Labour Councillor (Shropshire), Derek Woodvine – Arrested by Police in anti-porn operation.

. Labour Councillor (Basildon), Tony Wright – Forced to resign after being caught using his council computer to download porn.

. Labour MP (Sheffield), Clive Betts – Suspended from Parliament for 7 days after being caught forging immigration papers to extend the stay of his Brazilian rent-boy gay lover.

. Senior clerk Phillip Lyon, who arranges the weekly Prime Minister’s Question Time for Tony Blair, was arrested after vice cops raided his Commons office.Lyon, 37, is accused of making indecent images of children.?* The Labour Party in Calderdale has been plunged into a crisis as their lead candidate, and former Mayor of Hebden Royd, Stewart Brown, has been arrested on suspicion of child porn offences.

. Labour Councillor and Deputy Council Leader (Northumberland), John Whiteman, who was also a senior member of the local police authority – Convicted and fined in 2002 for soliciting a prostitute in the red light district of Middlesbrough. The court heard Whitman was arrested in his car as Police discovered him in a “state of undress” with a lady of the night he had just paid £35 for sex. He subsequently resigned from the council.

. Labour Councillor (Stoke/Staffordshire), Michael Barnes, put forward a motion in July 2004 to change the constitution of Stoke-on-Trent Council. The proposed amendments were designed to prevent the City’s two British National Party councillors from chairing any committees, so as to `protect` the good citizens of Stoke from the beastly BNP types they’d voted for in huge numbers to represent them. As Mr Barnes explained to the local paper, the move was “to prevent the BNP from exerting more influence”, and was “in the best interests of the people of Stoke-on-Trent”. A few months later, in November 2004, the civic-minded and virtuous Councillor Barnes appeared at North Staffordshire Magistrates Court, to face seven different charges relating to child pornography

. Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne – Arrested by Police following a sex attack

Labour Councillor and former Mayor (Halton/Cheshire), Liam Temple – Convicted in 2004 of `Inciting a child under 16 to commit an act of gross indecency` after the 58-year old Labour pervert had attempted to molest a 12-year old girl. During the case, the brave youngster told the court via a video link: “He said if I let him touch me he would give me money”.

. Labour Councillor (Coxhoe/Durham), Les Sheppard – Convicted in 2004 on ten counts of indecent assault on young girls. Jailed for 2 years, and placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years. Teeside Crown Court heard how 71 year old Sheppard lured his victims into his gold Porsche before driving them to remote spots, where he would submit them to sickening sex attacks. After his arrest, the Labour nonce-case told police “I love women, but you do things which you regret”. Sheppard’s ‘women’ victims were between 9 and 13 years old.

According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend. So who are they Mr. Blair?

. Yusef Azad – One of Ken Livingston’s overpaid left-wing cronies on the London Assembly gravy train – Resigned from his 60K-plus a year job `assisting` Assembly members, after being arrested on suspicion of downloading child porn in 2003.

. Labour Councillor (Wokingham/Berkshire), Nelson Bland – Convicted on 16 counts of possession and distribution of hardcore child porn in 2004. Sentenced to community service, placed on the sex offender’s register and ordered to attend rehabilitation classes for paedophiles. Bland used his own teenage daughters computer to hoard his grotesque gallery of child abuse, which was discovered by police during a search of Bland`s home, when they arrested him in connection with the murder of a Nottingham businessman

. Labour Councillor and Mayor-Elect (Merton/London), Sam Chaudry – Due to become Merton’s first Asian Mayor, before he was arrested, tried and convicted of multiple sex attacks on young girls in 1999. One of his victims was a 5-year old.

. Labour Councillor (Halton/Leeds), Lee Benson – Convicted and awaiting sentence in 2005, after pleading guilty on 12 counts of possession of indecent images of children, featuring youngsters between the ages of 5 and 11. Benson, who has a child of his own, repaid the fools who voted for him by storing his revolting kiddie porn collection on the computer provided for him by the council. Benson has been `suspended` – not expelled – by the Labour Party, which means his name remains on the Labour Party membership list, as well as on the sex offenders register. As to which is the more shameful – take your pick!

. Labour Councillor (Bridgend/South Wales), Iestyn Tudor Davies – Convicted, jailed for 7 years, and placed on the sex offender’s register for life in 2005, for repeatedly raping a 9-year old girl

. Labour Councillor (Newham/London), Greg Vincent, who was the Election Agent to Labour MP Tony Banks at the 2001 General Election – Convicted and given a 2-year community rehabilitation order in 2003, for possession of hardcore kiddie porn films and photos, featuring children as young as 8. One of the photos the Labour Councillor found so entertaining, featured – as described in court – a girl aged around 10, naked except for a dog-collar, being assaulted and abused while her hands were tied behind her back around a beam. Vincent was also a School Governor

. Prominent Edinburgh Labour party activist and election candidate, Rab Knox – Convicted and jailed for 3 years in 2005 for a horrific sex attack on a woman passenger in his taxi cab.

. Labour Party Official (North West England Regional Officer, and parliamentary adviser to the Home Office Minister responsible for crime and policing, Hazel Blears), Peter Tuffley – Convicted and jailed for 15 months and placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years in 2006, for the sexual molestation of a 13-year old boy that he had previously `groomed` on the internet. Tuffley was described as a `rising star` within the Labour Party – which is nothing to be proud of either

. Labour Councillor (Hornchurch/Essex), Alan Prescott, who was also a senior magistrate – Convicted and jailed for 2 years in 2001, for molesting children at the East London care home where he was the superintendent. Prescott, described in court as a “pillar of his local community” admitted carrying out sex attacks on four teenage boys as they slept in their beds

. Labour Parliamentary candidate (Cheadle/Cheshire), Paul Diggert – Subject of a 2002 police investigation into the alleged procurement of underage girls for sexual purposes via internet chatrooms. According to the `Sunday Mirror` (3/11/02), Diggert had admitted to having four underage girls that he was `grooming` for sex. In 2004 Diggert was convicted of making and distributing indecent pictures of children

. Labour Councillor (Dagenham/London), Terry Power – Forced to resign in 1999 after being arrested and charged with sex attacks on teenage boys. Details of trial and conviction to follow.

. Labour Councillor (Westlands/Worcestershire), Keith Rogers – Convicted, fined, and placed on the sex offender’s register in 2003, after downloading over 2,000 hardcore child porn photos on his computer

. Labour councillor Ex-Paston councillor Gilbert Benn (48) A former city councillor was a five-year jail sentence for molesting an 11-year-old boy and threatening the youngster’s mother in a bid to cover his tracks.

. A FORMER Wirral Tory councillor led a secret life looking at indecent images of children. While his wife and two daughters slept upstairs, Ian McKellar spent hours poring over child porn downloaded from the internet onto his computer. Ex-Tory councillor was sentenced after admitting child porn charges

. Former Children’s Minister and prior to that, chair of the Campaign For Civil Liberties, Harriet Harmann while in CCL, collaborated with the Pedophile Information Exchange and another pedophile activist groups in a campaign to decriminalise/legalise child pornography.

full story http://yournewswire.com/shocking-list-of-mps-convicted-of-child-sex-offences/

StylinRed
02-19-2016, 05:08 AM
seems like, as i wondered in the beginning, that germany just has a sexual assault problem in general


Two complainants have failed in their attempt to get Germany's constitutional court to consider their claim against the laws banning sex with animals.

The two unnamed individuals say they are sexually attracted to animals.

They sought to get the court in Karlsruhe to consider whether the existing rules are unconstitutional.

But the court threw out their claim, ruling that the effect of the ban on the complainants' right to sexual self-determination was justified.

The court said that protecting animal welfare by seeking to prevent them being the victim of sexual assaults was a legitimate aim of the law - which remains unchanged after the court's decision.

Germany's animal protection laws set out fines of up to €25,000 ($27,700; £19,000) for forcing animals to participate in what is termed as unnatural behaviour.
Sex with animals remains banned in Germany as legal bid fails - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35611906)

yep, Germans are just fucked up is all

Sid Vicious
02-19-2016, 08:18 AM
-=========== UPDATE ===========--



https://www.rt.com/news/332505-cologne-sex-attacks-refugees/

it's hilarious how butthurt you and westopher get and how easily you guys are rekt cause you don't even form the most basic of fact checks lol
Let's hear it from the Cologne prosecutor....


Prosecutor: Most Cologne New Year's Suspects Are Refugees

Most of the suspects identified in connection with a series of robberies and sexual assaults in Cologne during New Year's celebrations are refugees, prosecutors said Monday.

The crimes, described as unprecedented by authorities, sparked uproar in Germany and a heated debate about the country's ability to integrate almost 1.1 million people who sought asylum there last year.

Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said 73 suspects have been identified so far — most of them from North Africa. A total of 1,075 criminal complaints have been filed, including 467 alleging crimes of a sexual nature ranging from insults to rape.

"The overwhelming majority of persons fall into the general category of refugees," Bremer told The Associated Press, saying recent reports describing only three of the suspects as refugees were "total nonsense."

Initially, authorities in Cologne were accused of downplaying the fact that the attackers included many asylum-seekers because of the political sensitivity of the issue.

The suspects included 30 Moroccan nationals, 27 Algerians, four Iraqis, three Germans, three Syrians, three Tunisians, and one each from Libya, Iran and Montenegro, Bremer said.

"They have various legal statuses, including illegal entry, asylum-seekers and asylum applicants," he said of the foreign suspects. "That covers the overwhelming majority of suspects."


Twelve of the 73 suspects are linked to sexual crimes, though only one of those — a Moroccan asylum-seeker who entered Germany in November — is in custody, he said.

Prosecutor: Most Cologne New Year's Suspects Are Refugees - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/cologne-prosecutor-majority-suspects-asylum-seekers-36946143)

westopher
02-19-2016, 09:13 AM
The numbers of this incident don't change the fact that you selectively post statistics in here to try and make a group of people look bad. I'm not butthurt, I'm just not interested in thinly veiled racism, with the term "free speech" thrown in there as justification for it. I can find lots of facts to make a group of people look bad, or good all over the internet.

we shouldn't hesitate to be extremely harsh on those who fail to comply to canada's laws.
This is where we agree, but people who have done nothing wrong should not be punished because they share a religious belief, background, or skin colour with those who have. You can't punish people because they have a higher potential of committing an act due to a demographic.

Sid Vicious
03-01-2016, 08:51 AM
The numbers of this incident don't change the fact that you selectively post statistics in here to try and make a group of people look bad. I'm not butthurt, I'm just not interested in thinly veiled racism, with the term "free speech" thrown in there as justification for it. I can find lots of facts to make a group of people look bad, or good all over the internet.


This is where we agree, but people who have done nothing wrong should not be punished because they share a religious belief, background, or skin colour with those who have. You can't punish people because they have a higher potential of committing an act due to a demographic.

sorry i don't need any help making a group of people look bad lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk4MLO8SoWA
Calais migrants torch 'The Jungle' refugee camp in protests against eviction | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3411748/The-Jungle-burns-Migrants-torch-Calais-camp-violent-protests-police-evict-hundreds-slum.html)

and LOL at thinly veiled racism. anything that is remotely negative aimed at a group will be met with cries of racism lol

Digitalis
03-01-2016, 10:01 AM
Allah Akbhar to Stylingred and westopher
Video shows woman carrying severed head in Moscow and shouting ?Allahu Akbar? | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3469100/Woman-black-burka-holding-child-s-severed-HEAD-shouting-Allahu-Akbar-shuts-metro-station-Moscow.html)

Decapitated in her cot: Horrific details emerge of how burka-clad nanny left four-year-old child's body in her bed before parading through Moscow streets with little girl's head

Eyewitnesses say they saw the woman holding the severed head of a child
She is said to have shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as she appeared close to station
Body of Anastasia Meshcheryakova was found at burnt-out block of flats
Child's nanny Gyulchehra Bobokulova, from Uzbekistan, has been arrested
The four-year-old's body, dressed in night clothes, was found in her cot
For more news headlines from Mosco

Bouncing Bettys
03-01-2016, 11:23 AM
^Tough to watch as a parent of girl around that age. Odd that this story isn't getting much attention.

Tr1ll
03-01-2016, 12:45 PM
She's no Islamic extremist. Just a crazy

Moscow beheading: Nanny who killed 4-year-old girl has tells police she 'heard voices' | Europe | News | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/moscow-beheading-nanny-who-killed-4-year-old-girl-has-tells-police-she-heard-voices-a6905306.html)

She wanted to get caught for her crime, she said, and she had set the fire not to hide evidence but to make sure the victim's parents knew who was responsible. Ms Bobokulova also claimed to have killed the child because her husband cheated on her.
'Nanny' detained in Moscow carrying 'severed head of 4-year-old girl' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12177508/Woman-detained-in-Moscow-carrying-severed-childs-head-latest.html)

Bouncing Bettys
03-01-2016, 01:02 PM
Yeah, Islamic extremists aren't known for beheading people! Oh wait. Hearing voices? Isn't anyone who believes in a god(s) and claims to converse with them, essentially hearing voices? I'm not saying Islam pushed her to do this but religion sure does seem to foster and medicate the mentally unstable.

Digitalis
03-03-2016, 09:03 AM
Westopher try not to choke on this
Allah ordered me’ to kill child: Beheading nanny appears smiling in court
https://www.rt.com/news/334258-nanny-allah-killed-baby/
She's no Islamic extremist. Just a crazy

Moscow beheading: Nanny who killed 4-year-old girl has tells police she 'heard voices' | Europe | News | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/moscow-beheading-nanny-who-killed-4-year-old-girl-has-tells-police-she-heard-voices-a6905306.html)


'Nanny' detained in Moscow carrying 'severed head of 4-year-old girl' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12177508/Woman-detained-in-Moscow-carrying-severed-childs-head-latest.html)

dat_steve
03-03-2016, 09:12 AM
pretty sure she's just fking crazy like that chinese greyhound guy and he went wayyy further.

Digitalis
03-08-2016, 11:53 AM
Oh well she wouldn't have made the swim team anyway
Muslim rape gang victim: They shouted ?Swedish whore? and cut my breast with a razor blade | Pamela Geller (http://pamelageller.com/2016/03/muslim-rape-gang-victim-they-shouted-swedish-whore-and-cut-my-breast-with-a-razor-blade.html/)
Another glimpse into the future of Europe, and of the United States as well, unless these disastrous immigration and refugee resettlement policies are halted and reversed.

Nathalie Hager

“Taharrush victim Nathalie, 29: They shouted ‘Swedish whore’ and cut my breast with a razor blade,” Fria Tider, March 6, 2016:

Inrikes. Nathalie Hager, 29, was on her way home from a bus stop when a group of Arabic-speaking men suddenly attacked her outside a church. She managed to fight her way out of a gang rape but was left badly injured.

“They beat me black and blue and cut into one of my breasts, while shouting at me that I was a Swedish whore,” Nathalie told Fria Tider.

The attack took place near the church in the pittoresque [sic] town of Nora, west of Stockholm, late Tuesday night. Nathalie Hager, who has suffered memory lapses because of the hard blows she received to her head during the attempted gang rape, had followed a friend to the bus stop.

Later, she went back to the bus stop again, since her friend thought she had forgotten her gloves there. When Nathalie was walking home for the second time, she noticed a group of men walking briskly behind her. She called her boyfriend and started to run, but after a chase of about a hundred meters the men caught up with her.

“They pushed me down on my stomach and dragged me by my hair up a paved hill and into an alley. I have no memories of them beating me, but my face is all blue and swollen. They also cut into one of my breasts with something that must have been a carpet knife or a a razor blade, the wounds are long and narrow. I also have big black marks on my arms where they held me.”

Came around when the rape was about to start
Ms. Hager has no recollection of what happened until when she saw the men pulling their trousers down.

“Then I came around and noticed that they had ripped up all of my clothes. Somehow I managed to get away, I guess I must have beat them and clawed my way free because my hands are blue and black and swollen. I also had blood under my nails, which has been sampled by the police.

While running away Nathalie saw her boyfriend 50 meters away. At that point, the men departed from the scene. Soon thereafter, at 11 a.m. on Tuesday, she contacted the police. She went to the police station to report the assault.

According to Nathalie, who has worked with Arabs, the men were about 30-35 years old and spoke Arabic with what she believes is the Syrian dialect. One of them was wearing a white baseball cap and the others regular winter caps.

“Swedish whore!”
“My friend, whom I had earlier followed to the bus stop, had observed a bunch of foreign guys at the bus stop after I walked away. Some of them climbed aboard the bus but three or four remained here,” Nathalie said.

In addition to speaking Arabic, the men used a few simple insulting expressions in Swedish during the attempted gang rape.

“It was only dirty words. ‘Swedish whore’ or ‘Swedish slut’ and ‘cunt’. No full sentences. In my impression, they spoke no Swedish except these words, so I assume they were asylum seekers.”

According to Nathalie, the police have not been in contact with her since she reported the assault on Tuesday evening. She herself has tried to contact them, having discovered more injuries and having realized that some details of her recollection had been inaccurate. But nobody has called back.

CharlesInCharge
03-08-2016, 09:24 PM
Since islamic people are generally Arabic, I would these this anti-semetic "news" articles, which is actually hate crime propaganda believed and spread by dimwits, to be removed from Revscene.

GLOW
03-09-2016, 07:12 AM
Since islamic people are generally Arabic, I would these this anti-semetic "news" articles, which is actually hate crime propaganda believed and spread by dimwits, to be removed from Revscene.

are you implying the sexual assault did not happen and that the picture of the bruises all over her face and body in the link are doctored?

CharlesInCharge
03-09-2016, 08:13 AM
Are you implying Muslims and rape are synonyms? Does this open the board for us to call Christians pedophiles and Jews as money swindlers?

radioman
03-09-2016, 08:20 AM
Good old Chuck. Always the questions and never the answers.

GLOW
03-09-2016, 09:07 AM
Are you implying Muslims and rape are synonyms? Does this open the board for us to call Christians pedophiles and Jews as money swindlers?

hi CiC, thanks for the response! i'll gladly answer both your questions:

nope and nope.

awaiting your response to mine, thanks :)

Good old Chuck. Always the questions and never the answers.

i have faith... i don't think i've made it on his ignore list before :nyan:
i'm just wondering what he meant as i read it as implying the sexual assault was fabricated....could be post was strictly commenting regarding beef of how western media portrayed this...wasn't sure...trying to get in to the mind of CiC :nyan:

CharlesInCharge
03-09-2016, 09:13 AM
You dont get it... what makes those supposed rapist Muslim?
In some Islamic counties, rapist get a death sentence.

GLOW
03-09-2016, 09:32 AM
You dont get it... what makes those supposed rapist Muslim?

i never said they were or were not Muslim (so i'm not sure what i'm not getting if i didn't imply they were Muslim), only questioning if you implied the woman in question was subject to abuse or fabricated


In some Islamic counties, rapist get a death sentence.

not sure what this has to do with anything...the men in question were in Sweden, not in an Islamic country...unless you're implying lack of consequence can lead to action??? :shrug:

CharlesInCharge
03-09-2016, 10:32 AM
Funny how you dont see a problem with title "Muslim rape" gang.
Would you have a problem with a news article that says "Jewish organ traffickers" or "Christian genocidal bombers"?

GLOW
03-09-2016, 12:37 PM
Funny how you dont see a problem with title "Muslim rape" gang.
Would you have a problem with a news article that says "Jewish organ traffickers" or "Christian genocidal bombers"?

not funny at all. i did not say whether or not i had a problem with it so i'm not sure where this conclusion came from. in fact, it's quite the opposite as you had flat out asked the question of me earlier and i responded. :confused:

what is funny though is that my unanswered question was probably going to indirectly help your position on your topic. the responses indirectly answered my question for me so i'm good now thanks.

you may continue with the jibber jabber with the zionists here :nyan:

Digitalis
03-10-2016, 08:05 AM
Well you can't say they arn't thoughtfulBrokeBackBrokeBackBrokeBack

An Algerian man who almost killed his 25-year-old student victim shouted out ‘if Allah wills it’ in Arabic as he raped her in a darkened alley, a court has heard.

The man, identified only by his first name Rheda, is accused of following the student as she walked home from a nightclub at 5am in Hannover, Germany.

Afterwards, with his victim badly beaten, he is alleged to have climbed off her and asked her if she enjoyed it.

Incase you wanted to protect yourself
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-28/17-year-old-girl-fined-pepper-spraying-rapefugee-worlds-best-country-women
This week we got another example of officials effectively blaming the victim, this time in Denmark where a teenager who used pepper spray on an assailant will be fined for deploying an illegal substance.

The alleged attack occurred “near an asylum center” and according to the girl, was perpetrated by an “dark-skinned English speaking man who knocked her down and tried to undress her.”

“She was later warned by police that the pepper spray she used on him was illegal for private citizens to possess, and that she would face a £50 fine,” The Telegraph writes.

“It is illegal to possess and use pepper spray, so she will likely to be charged for that,” a police spokesperson said.

"Numerous readers wrote in the comments section on TV Syd’s story about the incident that they would be willing to pay the girl’s fine," The Local says. "The man who attacked the 17-year-old fled from the scene and has not been charged."

According to the Copenhagen Post, more Danes are traveling to Germany to buy pepper spray than ever before.

“Sales have really exploded after the New Year and the attacks in Cologne,” an owner of a weapons store in the border town of Flensborg, said. “In January, we’ve had 50-60 percent more Danish customers than usual.”

You'll recall that pepper spray sales are off the charts in Germany since the attacks in Cologne on New Year's Eve as are Google searches for the weapon.

But don't be fooled says Anders Rasmussen, a prevention specialist at the Danish Crime Prevention Council, pepper spray may be used as a defensive weapon in some cases, but if legalized in Denmark, people will "quickly" start a non-lethal arms race with one another.

"Pepper sprays give a false sense of safety," Rasmussen told The Post. "They can also be used as an offensive weapon, which may quickly develop into a sort of armed competition between civilians."

Yes, "a sort of armed competition between civilians" who would presumably try to stockpile mace in a dangerous game of pepper spray one-upmanship. One commenter - a Frank Silbermann - is incredulous:

Good question, Frank.

We wonder if Rasmussen would point to 17-year-old girls' usage of pepper spray on would-be assailants as an example of how dangerous society can get once you allow "civilians" to carry mace.

We close with the following screengrab from US News & World Report:

Digitalis
03-20-2016, 08:49 AM
Swedish Town Cancels Earth Hour: Nobody Wants to Turn Off Lights, Too Scared of Violent Migrants - The Gateway Pundit (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/swedish-town-cancels-earth-hour-nobody-wants-to-turn-off-light-too-scared-of-violent-migants/)

Swedish Town Cancels Earth Hour: Nobody Wants to Turn Off Lights, Too Scared of Violent Migrants

Jim Hoft Mar 18th, 2016 4:58 pm 58 Comments

The Swedish city of Ostersund cancelled “Earth Hour” this year. Nobody wants to turn off their lights after a spate of sexual assaults.
ostersund
The citizens of Ostersund, Sweden will skip Earth Hour this year. (Daily Mail)

Safety trumps Junk Science in Ostersund.

Girls, as young as ten, have been sexually attacked in 14 recent attacks.
CWFPAC reported:

Ostersund, Sweden, cancelled its annual “Earth Hour” celebration this year. All the lights in the city are turned off during the one-hour event to symbolize the “green” goal of being 100% fossil fuel free.

The city cancelled the event this year because it has been inundated with Muslim migrants and has experienced an epidemic of rapes and sexual assaults. Some victims have been as young as 10 years old. As a result, residents of Ostersund are now afraid of the dark.

Here’s a thought: Instead of fretting about becoming fossil fuel free, how about becoming barbarian free and limiting the number of radical Islamists coming into your nation?

mikemhg
03-20-2016, 11:56 AM
Cancelling Earth Hour because of rape, LOL. Come on man.

While this refugee issue is definitely one I don't side on their favor of, it's people like you who push these bullshit stories as if they are real in order to rile you people up. Check your sources man, that website is as hard right as you can get, do you even fact check any of this stuff before you digest it and believe it as truth?

The Gateway Pundit - RationalWiki (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit)

"The Gatewood Pundit is a hard-right website that spends most of the day complaining about Barack Obama and liberals, and the occasional flirtation with outright white supremacists. It is a fairly popular blog, allegedly getting 4-5 million views each month, once again proving that being popular doesn't necessarily make you right."

Those who thanked his post, screw you as well. It's 2016 folks, the internet is an amazing invention, it doesn't take much time to fact check these ridiculous right-wing blog websites. Too many people read this bullshit and spew this kind of garbage at the water cooler, it's scary stuff, websites like these are a reason why we are moving in this fascist direction. Once again I am not an apologist for these refugees, I am on the side that I don't agree with allowing mass amounts of them in due to cultural differences, but these kind of websites infuriate me. Let me guess, you're an avid Stormfront poster as well? Welcome to Revscene, Heil!

Swedish Town Cancels Earth Hour: Nobody Wants to Turn Off Lights, Too Scared of Violent Migrants - The Gateway Pundit (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/swedish-town-cancels-earth-hour-nobody-wants-to-turn-off-light-too-scared-of-violent-migants/)

Swedish Town Cancels Earth Hour: Nobody Wants to Turn Off Lights, Too Scared of Violent Migrants

Jim Hoft Mar 18th, 2016 4:58 pm 58 Comments

The Swedish city of Ostersund cancelled “Earth Hour” this year. Nobody wants to turn off their lights after a spate of sexual assaults.
ostersund
The citizens of Ostersund, Sweden will skip Earth Hour this year. (Daily Mail)

Safety trumps Junk Science in Ostersund.

Girls, as young as ten, have been sexually attacked in 14 recent attacks.
CWFPAC reported:

Ostersund, Sweden, cancelled its annual “Earth Hour” celebration this year. All the lights in the city are turned off during the one-hour event to symbolize the “green” goal of being 100% fossil fuel free.

The city cancelled the event this year because it has been inundated with Muslim migrants and has experienced an epidemic of rapes and sexual assaults. Some victims have been as young as 10 years old. As a result, residents of Ostersund are now afraid of the dark.

Here’s a thought: Instead of fretting about becoming fossil fuel free, how about becoming barbarian free and limiting the number of radical Islamists coming into your nation?

Digitalis
03-20-2016, 06:56 PM
Or maybe your just gullible idiot who thinks the press (or a site) is supposed to only represent one side of the story.
Look at what happened over at Brietbart when the one report made false claims about Trumps campaign staff knocking her over and brutalizing her. It was the worst thing to happen since her father died :O!!
Next thing you know a few of the writers that didn't buy her BS felt so strongly about it that they resigned.
I'd like to quote you in saying that yes it's "2016" left and right wing is a figment of your imagination as it simply doesn't exist. (as much as the media would love to deny)
Cancelling Earth Hour because of rape, LOL. Come on man.

While this refugee issue is definitely one I don't side on their favor of, it's people like you who push these bullshit stories as if they are real in order to rile you people up. Check your sources man, that website is as hard right as you can get, do you even fact check any of this stuff before you digest it and believe it as truth?

The Gateway Pundit - RationalWiki (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit)

"The Gatewood Pundit is a hard-right website that spends most of the day complaining about Barack Obama and liberals, and the occasional flirtation with outright white supremacists. It is a fairly popular blog, allegedly getting 4-5 million views each month, once again proving that being popular doesn't necessarily make you right."

Those who thanked his post, screw you as well. It's 2016 folks, the internet is an amazing invention, it doesn't take much time to fact check these ridiculous right-wing blog websites. Too many people read this bullshit and spew this kind of garbage at the water cooler, it's scary stuff, websites like these are a reason why we are moving in this fascist direction. Once again I am not an apologist for these refugees, I am on the side that I don't agree with allowing mass amounts of them in due to cultural differences, but these kind of websites infuriate me. Let me guess, you're an avid Stormfront poster as well? Welcome to Revscene, Heil!

Digitalis
04-18-2016, 06:12 PM
Man those people thread starter had it all wrong turns out the muslims actually are very loving of the preteen finnish girls especially the 40 year old men.
SHOCK PHOTOS: Muslim Migrant Men Pose with Pre-Teen Non-Muslim Girlfriends on Social Media | Pamela Geller (http://pamelageller.com/2016/04/muslim-pedophilia.html/)
http://9502-presscdn-0-95.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/migrant-pedophilia-768x390.jpeg
http://9502-presscdn-0-95.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Screen-Shot-2016-04-14-at-3.44.39-PM-448x600.png
http://i.imgur.com/7amZjk9.jpg

parm104
04-18-2016, 10:42 PM
Man those people thread starter had it all wrong turns out the muslims actually are very loving of the preteen finnish girls especially the 40 year old men.
SHOCK PHOTOS: Muslim Migrant Men Pose with Pre-Teen Non-Muslim Girlfriends on Social Media | Pamela Geller (http://pamelageller.com/2016/04/muslim-pedophilia.html/)


Citing a Pamela Geller posting...really? lol c'mon mannnnn, you're better than that.

Digitalis
04-19-2016, 09:51 AM
Your absolutely right, maybe next you could tell me if it's not on CNN it's not news. Just because "xyz" said it then it can't be true!BrokeBackBrokeBackBrokeBack
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/04/18/in-finland-parents-of-pre-teen-white-christian-girls-dont-mind-that-their-young-daughters-are-hanging-out-with-muslim-men-who-are-two-and-three-times-their-age/
Arab migrants going for preteen girls (http://politicalhotwire.com/political-discussion/143791-arab-migrants-going-preteen-girls.html)
SHOCK PHOTOS: Muslim Migrant Men Pose with Pre-Teen Non-Muslim Girlfriends on Social Media - Never Again Canada (http://www.neveragaincanada.ca/shock-photos-muslim-migrant-men-pose-pre-teen-non-muslim-girlfriends-social-media/)
Migrants in Finland pose with preteen girlfriends on social media | JEWSNEWS (http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2016/04/17/migrants-in-finland-pose-with-preteen-girlfriends-on-social-media/)

Citing a Pamela Geller posting...really? lol c'mon mannnnn, you're better than that.

Eastwood
04-19-2016, 09:58 AM
Europeans...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/18/article-2525602-1A2B2A3600000578-553_634x408.jpg

Digitalis
04-23-2016, 07:08 AM
France: Video Shows Migrant Women Beat 16-Yr-Old Girl 'For Wearing A Dress' (http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=54662)
It's not just the men. It's the culture. Enjoy video in the link.
Video out of France shows a group of migrant women beat a 16-yr-old girl they labeled as a "slut" for wearing a dress.

As the victim reportedly did not know the assailants, the attack appears to have been a random act of violence.

Fortunately, a man was able to pull away the most vicious assailant, a woman described as a "real giant," before she was able to murder her victim.



From Leparisien.fr (translation via Liveleak):

A 16-year-old girl was beaten up, on Monday, because of her clothes to Gennevilliers, in the Hauts-de-Seine.

It is 7 pm, on Monday, and Nadia* waits for the tram in front of the district of Lute. A small group of teenagers approaches her.

A few minutes later, three girls more or less of the same age as Nadia arrive then. In their turn, they speak to her about her skirt. The tone is clearly less cordial. Four young women rise in the tram which arrives. The trio continues to be obsessed with the skirt. The situation becomes inflamed. The leader makes her victim fall by pulling her by hair in the stop following, in the district of the Village, the thugs accuse Nadia to be a "slut" and begin to strike her.


Nadia wipes then an avalanche of punches and feet. The most irritated of the aggressors, real giant, strike her a last blow of knee which puts her KO. She collapses on the ground. In the shouts and the confusion, passers-by intervene and scare off the group of violent girls. Firemen evacuate Nadia to the hospital. It is there that she resumes consciousness after a few hours of coma.

While she has dinner in a fast food a little later in the evening, the one who struck the blows, 19-year-old, learns that her victim is in a bad state. With one of the two other girls, she surrenders then to the local police station where she is placed under police custody. She must be brought on Wednesday up for immediate trial but the audience was sent back on next May 17th.

According to the first elements of the investigation, the aggression would have no religious bottom. The trio did not wear distinguishing feature and none evoked any religion. It is not either about a settling of scores: Nadia did not know them and does not live in the same district.

*Name has been changed.

Cultural enrichment in action, folks.

As the Tweeter above mentioned, earlier this week feminists at one of Paris's top universities organized a "Hijab Day" whereby western women were encouraged to put on hijabs "if [they] too think all women should have the right to dress as they wish and have their choice respected."



One such gullible fool who took part in event was Hannah Bartlett, "an Australian student spending one semester at Sciences Po," whom France 24 said felt "it was important to support women who choose to wear Muslim veils."

What these fools don't seem to realize is in Muslim societies being locked in a black polyester veil in the blazing hot desert is not "a choice," it's a mandate. If you don't comply, you too will be treated like poor "Nadia."

Manic!
04-24-2016, 09:56 AM
I think this is disturbing.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/images/size680/Brett_Haubrich_1_of_St_Louis_MO_Credit_Lisa_Johnst on_St_Louis_Review_CNA_4_9_15.jpg

parm104
04-24-2016, 12:29 PM
I think this is disturbing.


Try not to feed the moron. His appetite for idiocy is everlasting.

Digitalis
04-28-2016, 07:34 AM
How thoughtful one even tried to use a condom! Must be getting westernized!
Austria caught up in midst of string of 'asylum seeker sex attacks' amid rise of far-right | World | News | Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/664701/Austria-sex-attacks-migrant-crisis-far-right-Freedom-Party)
The crimewave is seeing a sharp rise in the far-right in Austria in protest of mass immigration.

In the latest shocking incident a 27-year-old woman was allegedly assaulted while waiting at a bus station in the village of Grinzing on the outskirts of the capital Vienna.

She said: "He was Arabic looking and had a cord around his waist instead of a belt.

“All he could say was ‘sex, sex, sex’ and then he pulled out a condom from his trouser pocket.”


The attack comes just days after Norbert Hofer, candidate of the anti-migrant Freedom Party (FPO), took pole position in the presidential elections.

The results were a strong sign of the discontent surrounding the escalating migrant crisis, paving the way for the disruption of the two-party government system, which has ruled the country since 1945.

The woman said as she tried to run away the attacker chased after her with his trousers down and she only managed to escape when she reached a police station.

In a second incident a 19-year-old girl was followed into a toilet where she was assaulted by a man who she described as a "foreigner".

Vienna's Deputy Mayor from the FPO said: "It cannot go on like this and there needs to be an immediate stop to allowing refugees into the country, and extradition of anybody involved in crime.

“The security of people in Austria has to have priority."

On Monday, a 17-year-old asylum seeker from Afghanistan allegedly dragged a 20-year-old Austrian student off the streets in Styria in broad daylight and tried to force her onto the ground to have sex with her.

The young man who was a regular at a local fitness studio and described as extremely strong had apparently followed the young woman as she walked home.

The young woman’s chilling screams alerted passers-by, who chased the teenager away.

The attacker was later arrested and after being questioned was released on bail.

It has also emerged there was an alleged brutal sex attack in the Prater funfair in the centre of Vienna, where a 21-year-old student was attacked by three asylum seekers aged between 16 and 17.

According to police they followed the woman into a toilet, where one of them pinned her down while the other two raped and beat her.

After the victim raised the alarm, 100 police officers were drafted in and the trio were arrested.

Meanwhile, a group of North African asylum seekers have been accused of sexually assaulting a young woman in the middle of a busy train station in Salzburg on Friday.

When an Austrian stepped in to help, they reportedly beat him up.

And in another shocking incident, Austrian police arrested an asylum seeker from Afghanistan who allegedly pounced on a teenage girl on the train.

The 19-year-old girl was travelling between Wels and Grieskirchen when the refugee, who claims to be 17, sat down next to her and tried to speak to her.

But within minutes, he had allegedly moved to trying to kiss her, causing her to scream for help.

The screams were believed to be so loud that they alerted the train driver, who intervened to stop the attack and raised the alarm with police.

The migrant crisis has divided the country and, in a major U-turn, the government, who initially backed German chancellor Angela Merkel’s open-door policy, shut Austria’s borders.

Hofer, who has run an anti-immigrant and anti-Europe campaign will now go head-to-head with environmentalist and pro-refugee Alexander van der Bellen on May 22 for the president post, which is largely a ceremonial role.